WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 12 September

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<v Speaker 1>Late welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, wait, good evening. I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer

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<v Speaker 2>and Caleb Bond coming up. Joe Biden supporting Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard to believe. We've got the evidence and we'll show

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<v Speaker 2>you a little bit later. Plus, when we look at

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<v Speaker 2>the papers, and Islamic group with ties to a sheik

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<v Speaker 2>who said that he was elated during the October seven

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<v Speaker 2>attacks on Jews, they've been invited to apply for government

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<v Speaker 2>funding of course, and self funded retirees set to pay

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<v Speaker 2>more for aged care. All of that when we get

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<v Speaker 2>to the papers. But first, what's that old expression there

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<v Speaker 2>are three certainties in life, death taxes And Queensland Premier

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Miles posting cringe videos his latest video posted to Twitter. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually worse than cringe. It's absolute gas lighting. Before

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<v Speaker 2>we show you the video, let me just explain the background.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year, the Queensland Labor government new legislation allowing men

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<v Speaker 2>to self identify as women, and so in the process

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<v Speaker 2>they reduced womanhood to a feeling that anybody can have.

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<v Speaker 2>They made women's spaces redundant and women's sports ridiculous. So,

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<v Speaker 2>with all of that in mind, Queensland Premier Stephen Miles

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<v Speaker 2>has quite a hide to post this video captioned gangs

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<v Speaker 2>all here to protect women. He's kind of making me,

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<v Speaker 2>Miss Daniel Andrews. The videos is the question. If you

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<v Speaker 2>farm you're going to protect women, you should at least

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<v Speaker 2>you know what a woman is. In that video standing

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<v Speaker 2>beside Stephen Miles is his Minister for Women, Shannon Fentermen. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>of course she's the Minister for Women promising to protect women.

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<v Speaker 2>If only she knew what a woman was.

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<v Speaker 3>It's be inclusive.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyone that identifies as a woman is a woman, And

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<v Speaker 4>as the Minister for Women, I take a really inclusive

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<v Speaker 4>approach and we want to govern for all queens Angels

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<v Speaker 4>that all people who identify as a woman are part.

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<v Speaker 1>Of our policies and strategies to advance gender equality.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Queensland Labor Premier Stephen Miles is tweeting that

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<v Speaker 2>the gang's here to protect women. Let me show you

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<v Speaker 2>just how committed he is to women in his state.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll just show you the original tweet here it is

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<v Speaker 2>on screen, will put it up for you. So there

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<v Speaker 2>it is the Gangs here to protect women, looking very

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<v Speaker 2>serious and so a prominent woman in Queensland who campaigns

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<v Speaker 2>for women's rights, thought, well, since he's offering to protect women,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll contact him and request a meeting. Sally Grover replied

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<v Speaker 2>on Twitter. I'm a Queensland woman. I'm happy to meet

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<v Speaker 2>you to have a conversation about how to protect women.

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<v Speaker 2>Allowing us to be a sex class in law that

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<v Speaker 2>men cannot identify into is the start of that conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's a fairly polite request for a meeting. After all,

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Miles is boasting he's there to protect women. So

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<v Speaker 2>fair enough. And here is Stephen Miles's reply to that request.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, he blocked her. Caleb, what on earth

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<v Speaker 2>is going on? Stephen Miles cannot be serious?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, come on, Stephen Miles protecting women. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>trust him to protect a locked door, for Heaven's sake.

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<v Speaker 5>It puts a whole new complexion.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I thought there was We were playing to click

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<v Speaker 1>there again.

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<v Speaker 6>I've just got the music.

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<v Speaker 5>The music through me because it's that bloody tunes, like

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<v Speaker 5>a bee buzzing you anyway, it's when should I twain saying?

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I feel like a woman. It puts a whole

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<v Speaker 1>new complexion. It doesn't.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, when I previously said, man, I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like a woman, that usually meant I wanted to date.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, but a bit the hide on this bloke.

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<v Speaker 5>He knows he's about to lose the election next month,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's almost like, well, they don't care anymore, just

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<v Speaker 5>throwing absolutely anything out there for the opportunity to seem

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<v Speaker 5>like they're doing something, as if anyone's watching that video

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<v Speaker 5>going ah, yes, this is the bloke I want to

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<v Speaker 5>protect me as a woman with the woman standing next

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<v Speaker 5>to him who doesn't even know what a woman is like.

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<v Speaker 1>Please.

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<v Speaker 5>Politicians are just nerds in suits, and they prove.

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<v Speaker 1>It again and again, very unhead. Well, yes it may

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<v Speaker 1>well be way.

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<v Speaker 5>Does no one say to them the staff in their

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<v Speaker 5>offices whatever that presumably come up with these ideas, Oh

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<v Speaker 5>maybe this isn't going to work so well, like do

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<v Speaker 5>they employ absolute duffers?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they employed enough staff. Surely someone would have seen

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<v Speaker 2>that was a bad idea. Surely Stephen Miles and his

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<v Speaker 2>team would have thought.

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<v Speaker 7>Nah, this is please.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to speak to his media advisors because I

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<v Speaker 4>used to be one myself.

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<v Speaker 7>Not Stephen Miles, he'd be doing a.

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<v Speaker 4>Lot better shall we say if I.

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<v Speaker 1>Were we think you were a man.

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<v Speaker 4>But you can't protect woman if you can't define what

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<v Speaker 4>a woman is, which is made very clear by his

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<v Speaker 4>own Minister for Women and Queensland has form in this area.

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<v Speaker 7>Correct me if I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>But weren't they the first state to approve you changing

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<v Speaker 4>your birth certificate and other official documentation to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a woman now. I was born a man, but

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<v Speaker 4>now I'm a woman. And as we've seen at the

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<v Speaker 4>Olympics and other international places, if your documentation says you're

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<v Speaker 4>a woman, then everyone just uses that as an excuse

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<v Speaker 4>to say, well, we can't question this because their official

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<v Speaker 4>documentation says that they're a woman. Can't argue with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Now they're officially a woman. What I'm wondering is how

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<v Speaker 4>on earth we ever put this.

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<v Speaker 7>Genie back in the bottle? If ever?

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<v Speaker 4>We saw today Senator Pauline Hansen putting up a proposal

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<v Speaker 4>just to recognize biological sex, just to say, can we

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<v Speaker 4>as a nation in our federal Senate recognize biological men

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<v Speaker 4>biological woman and stand up for the rights of both sexes.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, it was comprehensively voted down the second she'd

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<v Speaker 4>stop talking. That is, after the usual culprits screamingly accused

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<v Speaker 4>her of being a bigot and a transphobe and all

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of the usual adjectives. This just seems to

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<v Speaker 4>have flown the coupe, and it is, let's be honest,

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<v Speaker 4>something that the vast majority of Australians do not support.

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<v Speaker 7>If we were to go to the polls on an.

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<v Speaker 4>Issue like this and say, okay, in our country, do

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<v Speaker 4>you think that biological men who want to be seen

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<v Speaker 4>as women should be recognized as such in law? I

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<v Speaker 4>am sure that we would come back with a resounding no,

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<v Speaker 4>because as much as it's frowned upon and even punishable

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<v Speaker 4>nowadays to say so, when you go to the polls,

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<v Speaker 4>it's private, and it would be very clear in any

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<v Speaker 4>kind of polling that people aren't up for this at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're right though, once you've put this in

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<v Speaker 2>law and you've allowed people to change their birth certificate.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, could you imagine any politician saying he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to wind this back? The left would go absolutely mental

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like trying to unscramble an egg. And maybe

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<v Speaker 2>there'll be a day where someone will do it, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's now not just one or two laws that would

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<v Speaker 2>need to be changed, there would be dozens of pieces

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<v Speaker 2>of legislation that would need to be amended. And then

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<v Speaker 2>what do you do with someone who says, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>legally recognized as a woman. You know, this whole argument

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<v Speaker 2>about being erased, and so that would go to a

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<v Speaker 2>whole other level if you ever tried.

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<v Speaker 1>We did have.

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<v Speaker 4>A small win a couple of years ago where Medicare

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<v Speaker 4>changed woman to birth in persons on some form and

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<v Speaker 4>the outcry from mothers which bill shortens.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's to give credit where credits.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I don't know that he led it, but he

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<v Speaker 4>certainly then changed it.

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<v Speaker 7>Quit smart.

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<v Speaker 4>The backlash was so severe. But what it takes is

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<v Speaker 4>especially those of us in the media making.

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<v Speaker 7>Such a farraw.

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<v Speaker 4>At the time, the public is alerted to the fact, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>you've had your forms changed you and they can take action.

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<v Speaker 4>But as it is most everyday people are too busy

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<v Speaker 4>working their job, living their lives, putting food on the

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<v Speaker 4>table to pay attention to what's going on in our

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<v Speaker 4>houses of parliament. And they've just passed these bills Willy

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<v Speaker 4>nearly on an unsuspecting public that then finds out about

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<v Speaker 4>it long after that ship has sailed.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, go on so so, then after all of this conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>coming back to Stephen Miles video, then he's got the

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<v Speaker 2>front to act like, oh, we're doing things to protect women,

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<v Speaker 2>and anyone who challenges him on the most basic issue

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<v Speaker 2>of what's the definition of a woman, he won't even

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<v Speaker 2>have a conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>He locks them, of course, and look for heaving the

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<v Speaker 5>bloke's down in there saying that he'll protect women. He

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<v Speaker 5>might have forgotten that he took the job of premier

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<v Speaker 5>away from a woman. You weren't doing much to protect

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<v Speaker 5>women then? Were your buddy's speaking of women who want

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<v Speaker 5>to be leaders?

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 5>Of course, we saw the presidential debate yesterday between former

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<v Speaker 5>president Donald Trump and current bar president would be president

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<v Speaker 5>Kamala Harris. And look a lot of people walked away

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<v Speaker 5>from that saying it was a good day for Harris

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<v Speaker 5>because she managed to get through the thing without too

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<v Speaker 5>many word salads. And there's some new polling out today

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<v Speaker 5>that shows it did exactly nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Who would have thought.

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<v Speaker 5>So this is a poll from Ledger in the United States,

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<v Speaker 5>and they did find that half of the respondents to

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<v Speaker 5>this poll who watched at least some portion of the

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<v Speaker 5>debate on the ABC said that Harris was the winner,

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<v Speaker 5>so they rated her better than Trump twenty nine percent.

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<v Speaker 5>Trumb As too, twenty nine percent said that Trump had won.

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<v Speaker 5>Thirty percent said that neither candidate had won. But when

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<v Speaker 5>you drill into the numbers of where the presidential things

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<v Speaker 5>are sitting at now, it's still only fifty percent saying that.

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<v Speaker 5>And I say only fifty percent, but it's fifty percent

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<v Speaker 5>saying that they would vote for Kamala versus forty seven

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<v Speaker 5>for Trump, which is about what it was prior to

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<v Speaker 5>the debate.

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<v Speaker 1>So this has not turned the dial. What's soever.

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<v Speaker 5>As I said last night on Credlin, that's why immediately

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<v Speaker 5>after the debate, Kamala's campaign and said out, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>let's have a second debate, because they knew that she.

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<v Speaker 1>Did all right.

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<v Speaker 5>If they thought she had done really badly, they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>ask for another debate. If they thought she'd done really well,

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<v Speaker 5>they wouldn't have to ask for another debate. They realized

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<v Speaker 5>very quickly that that wasn't going to change anyone's mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump did what Trump does.

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<v Speaker 5>Everyone expected Trump to perform much like he performed yesterday,

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<v Speaker 5>Kamala did a little better than expected, but certainly not

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<v Speaker 5>enough to change anyone's mind. They need another debate to

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<v Speaker 5>try and move hearts and minds, because, of course you're

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<v Speaker 5>not dealing here with people who are going to vote

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<v Speaker 5>Democrat or are going to vote Republican.

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying to.

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<v Speaker 5>Get undecided or perhaps even people who are not going

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<v Speaker 5>to vote to come out to the polls, and nothing

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<v Speaker 5>that she did yesterday changed that view whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 7>No.

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<v Speaker 4>In CNN Zone polling, the question they asked in this

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<v Speaker 4>particular one was after the debate, who would you most

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<v Speaker 4>trust with the economy now? Prior to the debate, Trump

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<v Speaker 4>was already leading in that poll. After the debate, he

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<v Speaker 4>was leading by a much bigger margin. So people can

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<v Speaker 4>see through the fact that this woman is capable of

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<v Speaker 4>ninety second well rehearsed speeches that somebody else wrote. Keep

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<v Speaker 4>in mind, that's the rules of the debate. You don't

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<v Speaker 4>get to speak for much longer than that. So all

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<v Speaker 4>we really saw was like, oh, she can actually do

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<v Speaker 4>well in the space of ninety seconds, well rehearsed and

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<v Speaker 4>written by somebody else. But that also tells people watching

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<v Speaker 4>that's what you're gonna get if she becomes potus, just

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<v Speaker 4>a well rehearsed actress blurbing out the lines that somebody

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<v Speaker 4>else has written. And after the years of a Biden

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<v Speaker 4>administration in which that poor old bloke was doing the

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<v Speaker 4>same and everyone was wondering who's really in charge, you

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<v Speaker 4>got to know you're just going to get more of

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<v Speaker 4>the same if Kamala gets the hot seat. As I

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<v Speaker 4>said last night, I don't think that the debate was

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<v Speaker 4>going to change anything. That's before we saw it reflected

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<v Speaker 4>in the polls. Kamala is still the establishment picked backed

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<v Speaker 4>by the neo cons Trump is still the outsider, backed

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<v Speaker 4>by everyone who's willing to stand up to the empire.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's what we saw reflected in this poll.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Kamala Harris won the debate only to the

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<v Speaker 2>extent that Donald Trump didn't put her away. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>extent which she won. And even if you give her

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<v Speaker 2>the debate and say, okay, Kamala Harris won the debate.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of top the polls, the southern border is

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<v Speaker 2>still leaking, inflation is still high, homes are still too costly,

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<v Speaker 2>crime is still skyrocketing. But she won the debate, So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, take your win and run with it, I suppose,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not changing anyone's mind. The other thing I

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<v Speaker 2>thought that was interesting from the New York Post report

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<v Speaker 2>was that the debate with Joe Biden, fifty one million

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<v Speaker 2>viewers watched that, but sixty seven million watched this debate

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<v Speaker 2>with Harris. Forty two percent of people who watched the

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<v Speaker 2>Biden debate reckoned it was a good argument, a good,

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<v Speaker 2>good debate, but sixty percent of those who watched this

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<v Speaker 2>one said it was a good debate. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>for the Democrats, they would have to be happy at

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<v Speaker 2>least with Kamala Harris compared to what they had in

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden. And it seems like America is happier with

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<v Speaker 2>it as well, because they're saying, well, at least it

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<v Speaker 2>was a decent debate. More than half of the people

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, they were happier than they were with Biden

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<v Speaker 5>the minute they got rid of the bloke.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there was bad I remember before they

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<v Speaker 2>replaced Biden there was talk about, I mean, are they

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<v Speaker 2>going to go from Biden to Harris? They can't be serious?

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<v Speaker 6>Ye, But of course so she is.

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<v Speaker 5>You would go sure, but she is still benefiting from

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<v Speaker 5>that anyone but Biden phenomenon. Right, You know, they could

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<v Speaker 5>have picked aht Let asleep and he probably would have

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<v Speaker 5>done better than Joe Biden. And the interesting thing about

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<v Speaker 5>the polling numbers here is that literally everyone basically has

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<v Speaker 5>tried to run interference for Kamala after that debate, Like

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<v Speaker 5>the media has just almost whole as bowl as she

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<v Speaker 5>wont she she wanted. It's being rammed down down people's

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<v Speaker 5>throats and even big tech is interfering in this to

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<v Speaker 5>help out Kamala and it's still not helping her thoroughly

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<v Speaker 5>in the polls. This video was put together by the

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<v Speaker 5>Reuben Report Dave Ruben, of course you've often seen on

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<v Speaker 5>this network, particularly with Paul Murray. They put together a

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<v Speaker 5>group of the lies that she told and then in

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<v Speaker 5>fact checked them. This video went up on TikTok and

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<v Speaker 5>then TikTok took it down.

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<v Speaker 8>You will sign a national abortion band.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a lie. I'm not signing a band, and there's

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<v Speaker 6>no reason to sign a.

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<v Speaker 8>Band, understand. And here's Project twenty twenty five. There would

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<v Speaker 8>be a national abortion a monitor.

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<v Speaker 6>What she says is an absolute lie.

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<v Speaker 4>There is no state in this country where it is

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<v Speaker 4>legal to kill a baby it's born.

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<v Speaker 8>Nowhere in America is a woman carrying a pregnancy to

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<v Speaker 8>term and asking for an abortion.

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<v Speaker 9>The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable,

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<v Speaker 9>the infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother

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<v Speaker 9>and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue

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<v Speaker 9>between the physicians and the mothers.

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<v Speaker 8>Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election, there

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<v Speaker 8>will be a bloodbath if this and the outcome of

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<v Speaker 8>this election is not to his liking.

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<v Speaker 10>It was a different term, and it was a term

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<v Speaker 10>that related to energy. We're going to put a one

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<v Speaker 10>hundred percent power on every single car that comes across

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<v Speaker 10>the line, and you're not going to be able to

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<v Speaker 10>sell those guys.

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<v Speaker 6>If I get elected.

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<v Speaker 10>Now, if I don't get elected, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 10>a blood beat.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what's wrong with that.

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<v Speaker 5>It seems a pretty fair report of what Kamala said

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<v Speaker 5>and her simply being fact checked for what she said.

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<v Speaker 5>And now I said before this was big tech running interference.

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<v Speaker 5>It's probably, let's be honest, China running interference for Kamala

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<v Speaker 5>harrisy because we know that TikTok is owned by Byte

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<v Speaker 5>Dance in China, and big business in China is intrinsically

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<v Speaker 5>linked to the CCP. So why would TikTok to that

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<v Speaker 5>that video, which was entirely truthful, ought to be taken

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<v Speaker 5>off their platform unless China had an agenda to help

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<v Speaker 5>out Kamala Harris because they know she'll be a much

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<v Speaker 5>softer touch than Donald Trump, who's promised to bring in

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<v Speaker 5>tariffs on China and other nations in terms of their

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<v Speaker 5>exports to the United States. They're doing everything they can

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<v Speaker 5>to help her because they know she'll be better for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you alleging election interference.

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<v Speaker 6>Cave i Am James.

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<v Speaker 2>She don't seem that way, And it makes total sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, China and Russia and North Korea and Iran

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<v Speaker 2>and Hamas, they would all love Kamala Harris to be

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<v Speaker 2>the next president of the United States. The weaker the better.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't want a strong leader of the Western world.

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<v Speaker 7>You don't want a strong commander in chief if you

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<v Speaker 7>mean the West any harm.

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<v Speaker 4>But the big, big takeaway from this debate seems to

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<v Speaker 4>still be they're eating the.

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<v Speaker 6>Dogs in Springfield. They're eating the doors, the people that

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<v Speaker 6>came in. They're eating the cats.

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<v Speaker 10>They're eating they're eating the pets of the people that

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<v Speaker 10>lived there.

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<v Speaker 2>ABC News did reach out to the city manager there.

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<v Speaker 2>He told us there have been no credible reports of

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<v Speaker 2>specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by

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<v Speaker 2>individuals within the immigrant community.

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<v Speaker 10>All I've seen people intelligen, let me just say here,

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<v Speaker 10>this is the people on television.

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<v Speaker 6>My dog was taken and used for food.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, we did show you some credible reports of

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<v Speaker 4>certain animals being eaten by hiations in Springfield last night,

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<v Speaker 4>so again the fact checker got promptly fact checked.

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<v Speaker 7>But this is something.

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<v Speaker 4>That has gone completely viral and something which TikTok hasn't

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<v Speaker 4>bothered to take down. Check out this funky remix now

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<v Speaker 4>going viral.

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<v Speaker 6>They're eating the dogs.

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<v Speaker 11>They're eating the cats, eat the cat, eat eating the cat.

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<v Speaker 6>They're eating the dogs.

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<v Speaker 11>They're eating the cats, eat the cat, eat the cat,

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<v Speaker 11>eating the dogs. They're eating the cats, eat the cat,

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<v Speaker 11>the cat.

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<v Speaker 6>They're eating the dogs.

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<v Speaker 11>They're eating the cats, eat the cat, eat eating the cats.

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<v Speaker 11>They're eating the dogs, eat the cat, eat the cat,

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<v Speaker 11>eating the dogs, eating the dogs, eat the cat, the cat.

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<v Speaker 1>How good is that?

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<v Speaker 2>That is superb make that's a good idea. Yeah, perfect.

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<v Speaker 7>See. This is the brilliance of it though.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was telling this to you guys last night

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<v Speaker 4>because you were like, oh, that was stupid.

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<v Speaker 7>That's when you knew. Actually sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>Caleb Brand was saying, this is where Trump lost it,

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<v Speaker 4>and everyone was like, oh, no, he's done it. And

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<v Speaker 4>I argued, Trump is a troll. He knows what's mimable,

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<v Speaker 4>he knows what will go viral, and this has gone

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<v Speaker 4>completely viral.

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<v Speaker 7>Check Out this AI video of the.

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<v Speaker 4>Cats now now arming up solidly on Team Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same.

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<v Speaker 6>Sixteen. They're still fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>Within their sex and there.

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<v Speaker 4>In Trump, they know how to make something go viral.

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<v Speaker 4>Check Out this graphic shared by Trump himself. Here is

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<v Speaker 4>a cat in a maga hat ready to defend America

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<v Speaker 4>and his kind.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't want to mess with that cat, but laughs.

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<v Speaker 4>Aside, Trump's pick for VP, jd Vance was asked about

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<v Speaker 4>this post the debate, and this is exactly the strategy

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<v Speaker 4>that he explained to a reporter who clearly didn't want

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<v Speaker 4>to take much of what he was putting down.

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<v Speaker 7>But here he was.

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<v Speaker 12>It's interesting, Kaitland, that that the media didn't care about

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<v Speaker 12>the carnage wrought by these policies until we turned it

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<v Speaker 12>into a meme about cats, and that speaks to the

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<v Speaker 12>media's failure to care about what's going on in these communities.

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<v Speaker 12>If we have to meme about it to get the

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<v Speaker 12>media to care, we're going to keep on doing it

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<v Speaker 12>because the media should care about what's on.

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<v Speaker 6>That's how you say that. I think the media does

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<v Speaker 6>care about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Really does the media care about it because they seem

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<v Speaker 4>to be denying it left right and center, Whereas today

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<v Speaker 4>I watched a half hour special by a guy called

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<v Speaker 4>Tyler Oliviera who went around Ohio interviewing people who were

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<v Speaker 4>giving first hand accounts of missing pets, etc.

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<v Speaker 7>And so on. But what jd.

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<v Speaker 4>Vance did then was to turn it around on the

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<v Speaker 4>reporter and say, the bottom line of this issue is

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<v Speaker 4>that a town as small as Springfield, which is only

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<v Speaker 4>sixty thousand people, has had twenty thousand illegal migrants foisted

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<v Speaker 4>upon it. Every single one of their systems, from health

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<v Speaker 4>to the food supplies, is crumbling out from underneath them,

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<v Speaker 4>and these people in Ohio have had enough of it.

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<v Speaker 4>So if it takes making something funny out of cat

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<v Speaker 4>and dog means we're gonna do it because.

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<v Speaker 7>Now it's gone viral. Now you guys pay attention, do

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<v Speaker 7>you reckon?

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Miles is at home watching the late debate tonight

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<v Speaker 2>and he's thinking, oh my god, how much better could

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<v Speaker 2>my social media be? Like he's putting out those lame

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<v Speaker 2>you know, his the Gang protecting women videos. Meanwhile Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is producing absolute brilliance that AI video with those cats

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<v Speaker 2>with them. If that was a movie, like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>would buy.

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<v Speaker 5>A ticket, absolutely, I'd be there with bells on it.

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<v Speaker 5>In fact, I was talking to one of my cats, Claude,

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<v Speaker 5>last night.

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<v Speaker 1>He does talk to me, and he was still around. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>Claude has not been eaten. It's okay.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't go for the other one, Boo, the old one,

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<v Speaker 5>because he'd be a bit tough for eating.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Claude.

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<v Speaker 5>Claude's a young rag doll, so you know, he could

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<v Speaker 5>be a proud target. But he was telling me he

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<v Speaker 5>wants to go off and in list. Now he's been

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<v Speaker 5>radicalized all of this stuff, and I'll tell you what

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<v Speaker 5>the thing's going on in Springfield. It's one hell of

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<v Speaker 5>an episode of the Simpsons, isn't it. But as you

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<v Speaker 5>were saying before, is. It just shows how canny Trump

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<v Speaker 5>is in terms of being able to get hold of

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<v Speaker 5>a media line and a social media line, and you

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<v Speaker 5>make people pay attention even when they don't want to.

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<v Speaker 5>And the fact that we're sitting here talking about this

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<v Speaker 5>more extensively than we're talking about the rest of the debate.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, we just went over Camala before the

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<v Speaker 5>polls whatever, But this is the stuff that we are

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<v Speaker 5>talking about and everyone else is talking about because he

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<v Speaker 5>just dropped, pardon the pun, the cat amongst the pigeons,

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<v Speaker 5>or at least the cat that they could find that

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<v Speaker 5>hadn't been eton. He dropped the cat amongst the pigeons,

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<v Speaker 5>and it has worked. That's how he campaigns. And again

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<v Speaker 5>it was the same in twenty sixteen. When you looked

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<v Speaker 5>at the advertising spend that the Trump campaign had versus

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<v Speaker 5>the advertising spend of Hillary Clinton, the Democrats far outstripped

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<v Speaker 5>the Republicans by hundreds and hundreds.

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<v Speaker 1>Of millions of dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>He got almost three times as many mentions in the media.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the number was back in twenty sixteen. He

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<v Speaker 5>didn't have to pay for the campaign advertising because he

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<v Speaker 5>gave the content to be spread far and wide. And

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<v Speaker 5>that's exactly what he's doing here. He knows what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Good on him.

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<v Speaker 2>The other big difference between the Democrats and the Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to their social media campaigns is the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats are always it's always doom gloom. Trump is dangerous,

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<v Speaker 2>He's a threat to democracy. Trump takes the mickey out

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<v Speaker 2>of himself, gets everybody laughing, and it's actually quite endearing.

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<v Speaker 2>So Springfield in Ohio, they've got asylum seeker problems. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got our own assylum and seeker problems here in Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>dozens of asylum seekers on temporary visas have been camping

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<v Speaker 2>out in front of the Department of Home Affairs in

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<v Speaker 2>Melbourne and in front of Tony Burke he's the Home

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<v Speaker 2>Affairs Minister, in front of his office in Western Sydney,

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<v Speaker 2>demanding that they be given permanent resids. See here's a

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<v Speaker 2>video produced by some of the refugees.

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<v Speaker 13>Hello friends, we ain in here. Everyone to get the

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<v Speaker 13>Berman and visa. We need the freedom. We want to

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<v Speaker 13>get the Berman and visa for in Australia. We start

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<v Speaker 13>the protest in Oscar in here.

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<v Speaker 6>Today.

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<v Speaker 1>He's fifty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>That video is going so well until he mucked up

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<v Speaker 2>taking the bit of paper off this How does.

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<v Speaker 5>He expect a permanent visa when he can't even rip

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<v Speaker 5>a piece of paper proper.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing struck me about that video, and then I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen other images of the protesters. They've got signs saying

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<v Speaker 2>we demand full citizenship rights now, and it seems to

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<v Speaker 2>me that demanding you be given full citizenship right this

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<v Speaker 2>is probably not the way to endear yourself to authorities

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<v Speaker 2>or to the general public and get their support when

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 2>you arrived here illegally. Now, to Tony Burk's credit, he

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.399
<v Speaker 2>came out and spoke with the protesters and talked to

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 2>them about maybe the fact they shouldn't quite act so

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:17.359
<v Speaker 2>Entires would maybe just keep the noise down outside his

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<v Speaker 2>office a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>But what you need to understand in this local area

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<v Speaker 3>up there in the units, there.

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<v Speaker 2>Are people who work shift work.

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:32.480
<v Speaker 3>The only chance they have to sleep is during the day.

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:38.719
<v Speaker 3>Every hour you wake them, every single hour with that

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<v Speaker 3>drump and with the chanting. They now haven't had a

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<v Speaker 3>proper day's sleep except.

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<v Speaker 1>On weekends for three weeks. That's not fair for them.

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<v Speaker 3>What's happened is between you and the Australian government for

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<v Speaker 3>many years, but it's not there for moment. The way

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<v Speaker 3>you've been protesting has been really hurting a whole lot

0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:05.120
<v Speaker 3>of the people, where it's my job to protect them.

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<v Speaker 2>To Tony Burke, would you go to a pro Palestine

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<v Speaker 2>rally and address the protesters just like you did those refugees,

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:15.719
<v Speaker 2>we would all be thrilled, We would applaud you if

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 2>you would talk to them in a similar fashion. But Kaylee,

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 2>you've got these people on temporary visas. They're frustrated because

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<v Speaker 2>they're being made certain promises. There's a process you go through,

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<v Speaker 2>so I guess it's partly them, but it's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>the fault of the Australian government. We don't have an

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<v Speaker 2>orderly refugee program, which we would all support. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to evolve and all sorts of things have happened

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<v Speaker 2>where you now get people who feel entitled, they feel

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<v Speaker 2>let down, they feel like they've got a right to protest,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're seeing that right around the country now on

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 2>every issue. People feel like they are entitled, they have

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<v Speaker 2>a right to demand things. And I got, as I said,

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<v Speaker 2>credit to Tony Burke for at least saying, hey, listen,

0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 2>there's a right way to go about things. Would that

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<v Speaker 2>they would say that more often into different groups.

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<v Speaker 5>Indeed, that's probably the best I've seen of Tony Burke

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<v Speaker 5>in a very long time. But see a lot of

0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 5>these people who are camping out. I mean, you know,

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 5>it's nigh on two months there. We saw after he

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<v Speaker 5>finally ripped his piece of paper fifty nine days on

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 5>that video, so it's two odd months they've been camping out.

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:18.440
<v Speaker 5>And a lot of these people are Tri Lankan Tamils

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<v Speaker 5>who believe that it's unsafe for them to go back home,

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<v Speaker 5>but the Australian government has deemed that it is safe

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:27.199
<v Speaker 5>for them to go back home. So they're caught in

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<v Speaker 5>something of a limbo because the government doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 5>give them a permanent visa because it believes they should

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<v Speaker 5>be able to go back. They refuse to go back

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:36.360
<v Speaker 5>because they believe it's not safe.

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<v Speaker 1>But they have been here.

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 5>Many of these people have been here for a decade

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<v Speaker 5>or more on a temporary visa. So don't I get

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 5>that they want a permanent visa. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>they can in any way accuse Australia of not protecting

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 5>them or helping them in any way. All we've said is, look,

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<v Speaker 5>if the day comes that we believe you should be

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 5>sent back home, we reserve the right to do so.

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 5>But in the meantime you're still allowed to live here.

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<v Speaker 5>I actually don't see what the great problem is.

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<v Speaker 4>And this kind of protest action forces the government's hand,

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<v Speaker 4>perhaps not even in their favor, if they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>keep this up so relentlessly and make menaces out of

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 4>themselves in a country that, like you say, has been

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 4>so gracious to them. What is really missing here? And

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<v Speaker 4>we see this throughout.

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<v Speaker 7>The Western world.

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<v Speaker 4>I've watched countless videos of immigrants in the UK, in Germany,

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 4>throughout Europe being so entitled and demanding. We've showed some

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 4>of the clips, most recently on this show, of those

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 4>making it to American cities, these illegal immigrants living it

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 4>up on the taxpayer dime in five star hotels, just

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 4>being like this is wonderful and we don't intend to

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 4>lift a finger.

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 7>We're just staying here. What are you going to do now?

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 4>And going to council meetings and demanding Now we want

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 4>into rep is now, we'd like more food, thank you

0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 4>very much. Now, we'd like it's not this attitude of gratitude,

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 4>whereby it's like, my goodness, this host country is incredible,

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 4>thank you so much for taking us in. How can

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 4>we can contribute to your society, How can we pay

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 4>it forward? How can we give it back? That kind

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 4>of attitude is going to endear any host country to

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:26.440
<v Speaker 4>do the best they can buy those people. But what

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 4>we keep seeing continually is this real sense of entitlement.

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 4>We want more now, we want permanency here, etc.

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<v Speaker 7>And so on.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't work. And should we ever see our government

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 4>give in to that kind of pressure by people who

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<v Speaker 4>are just lucky to be here, the Australians would be outraged,

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<v Speaker 4>and rightly so, because that's not your job as the government.

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 7>Your job's to put our interests first, dear well.

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Attitudes to asylum seekers are certainly changing in Europe. We

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<v Speaker 2>report it on Tuesday that Hungary, who are not excited

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<v Speaker 2>asylum seekers, they're putting them in detention. They had been

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<v Speaker 2>fined by the European Union. Hungary said well, we're not

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 2>paying your fines, and if you really love asylum seekers,

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 2>well then we'll put them on buses and we'll send

0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 2>them to Brussels. So that was Hungry on Tuesday. Then

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 2>on Wednesday, which was yesterday, we reported it Germany, who

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 2>took in millions of illegals over the last number of years,

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 2>they are now putting tight controls on all of their

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 2>borders and sending asylum seekers back to where they've come from.

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 2>The leader of Hungary was so impressed by this, he

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 2>tweeted Germany has decided to impose strict border controls to

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<v Speaker 2>stop illegal immigrants. Welcome to the club hashtag stop migrations.

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 2>That was yesterday, but it keeps going today. That stop

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 2>migration club has expanded with the Netherlands. The Netherlands politician

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Gert Wielders has vowed to copy the policy of Germany

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 2>for his country as well. And now their suggestions Liz

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<v Speaker 2>that Austria might be the next in line to say,

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 2>you know what, We're going to protect our national borders

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, I love it and this is exactly what I

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<v Speaker 4>was hoping for right Hungary has gonads the size of

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<v Speaker 4>a bull. Germany that the reason why Germany is suddenly

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 4>like we're tightening up our borders is because they just

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 4>got thrashed in their state elections. The AfD party, known

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 4>as the far right party, the anti mass immigration party, absolutely.

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 7>Soared in the polls.

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<v Speaker 4>They've got a federal election coming up in a year's time,

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 4>so suddenly the German government is like the AfD fell

0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 4>one seat foul of having a blocking majority in the parliament.

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 7>We've got to pull our bootstraps.

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 4>Up before the election next September, otherwise we are Goners.

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<v Speaker 7>Garrett Wilders, this isn't a surprise from him.

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 4>He ran very strongly on anti immigration policy, also did

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<v Speaker 4>very well in the Dutch elections, but.

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<v Speaker 7>Not quite well enough. They've got such a complicated system

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 7>over there.

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<v Speaker 4>Not well enough to then be able to exact his policies,

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 4>but enough in the parliament to rally around this. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>and now you're about to hear from if the polls

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<v Speaker 4>are true in Austria, the man who may be the

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<v Speaker 4>next leader of Austria.

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<v Speaker 7>He's the head of the Freedom Party.

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<v Speaker 4>And guess what he's running on anti immigrationachanan a su.

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<v Speaker 4>That is Herbert Kikel and hopefully you'll be seeing a

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<v Speaker 4>lot more of him in a couple of weeks time

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 4>when Austria.

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<v Speaker 7>Goes to the polls. This is exciting. This is like

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 7>I said last night.

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<v Speaker 4>It could be the beginning of the end for the EU,

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 4>because all of these four countries now are kicking the

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 4>EU's own policies in the teeth and saying enough is enough.

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 4>All of them are being warned by the EU. We're

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:30.120
<v Speaker 4>not even sure that what you're doing is legal. It's

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 4>certainly very controversial. Yet standing up for your own national

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 4>sovereignty and the interests of the people who elected you

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 4>to represent them.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh that's so controversial.

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 4>Who knows what could be around the corner if enough

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 4>countries keep ganging up on the EU.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine what the English are thinking though, because

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 2>our accuser being's in a phobic and racist gone out

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 2>of Germany have turned things around, but even more so

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 2>because kiss Starmer has killed that Rwandan plan right that

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Rishie Sineka was going to deport illegal immigrants from the

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<v Speaker 2>UK to Rwanda and the English had built a whole

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 2>lot of accommodation centers in Rwanda. Will kissed Arma said no,

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:09.359
<v Speaker 2>we're not doing that anymore. But the Germans are now

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 2>saying we may well use those places built by British

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:17.879
<v Speaker 2>taxpayer money in Rwanda to process illegal migrants. So it's

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:22.439
<v Speaker 2>a completely for building it there is we will come.

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:25.720
<v Speaker 5>There is finally movement at the station and they should

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 5>all get on the phone, you know, Germany, the Netherlands,

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 5>they should all get on the phone to Nigel Farage

0:34:31.680 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 5>and ask him how.

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 1>They pulled off Brexit.

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:37.759
<v Speaker 5>Because if you have enough countries start to push back

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 5>against the EU. And as we talked about the other night,

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 5>you know particularly well, we know what's what happened with

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 5>Hungary where they've been given this two hundred million euro fine.

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 5>Germany is probably now going to face legal action from

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 5>the EU because they're refusing to adhere to.

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>The EU's migration policies.

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 5>If you get enough countries eventually do this and they

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 5>can pull off a big fight against the EU. Will

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<v Speaker 5>who knows what could happen if they can all get

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 5>together and pull out of the EU at the same time.

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Ahead, we may actually see some action.

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 5>Now we know here in this country that it is

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 5>a land of droughts and flooding rains. It's a land

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.439
<v Speaker 5>of bushfires as well, and a lot of us get

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 5>trepidacious when we come up to summer, and we are

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 5>of course coming up to summer now, and we worry

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 5>about how bad bushfires could get. So the Cats family

0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:27.759
<v Speaker 5>in Adelaide, they live in the Adelaide Hills, after they

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:31.360
<v Speaker 5>saw how bad the bushfires were in twenty nineteen, decided

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 5>that they would build a bushfire bunker in their backyard.

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 5>Now it's all up to national spec at needs building requirements.

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 5>They can go underground. It's got an hour's worth of oxygen.

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:46.279
<v Speaker 5>So if they are caught in a situation where they're

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 5>told by the CFS, by the authorities that it is

0:35:49.560 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 5>too late to leave, the safest thing you can do

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:54.719
<v Speaker 5>is state your property. Well, of course, they don't want

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 5>to run the risk of being burnt to a crisp

0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 5>so they have this bunker to go into, but they've

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 5>been told by the Adelaide Hills Council that their bunker

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 5>is illegal.

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:06.720
<v Speaker 1>And you want to know why it's illegal.

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 5>And they're being threatened by the way with fines of

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 5>between five hundred and twenty.

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Thousand dollars if they use it.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, good luck, you actually saved your life in

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<v Speaker 5>the middle of a bushfire. But he's a twenty thousand

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<v Speaker 5>dollar bill for doing so. Try and make that make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But apparently the reason that they have.

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<v Speaker 5>Been told that they can't do this is because there's

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<v Speaker 5>actually nowhere in the planning legislation in South Australia that

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<v Speaker 5>accounts for something such as a bushfire bunker. And so

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<v Speaker 5>because this thing just doesn't exist anywhere in planning law,

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<v Speaker 5>it is automatically illegal. So they're scrambling to try and

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<v Speaker 5>find some way to approve this. They've been told it

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<v Speaker 5>is illegal. You've got to try and get approval. They've

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<v Speaker 5>gone for approval, they've gone actually, no, hang on a minute,

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<v Speaker 5>we can't approve this thing because there's nothing in law

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<v Speaker 5>that allows us to do so. The state government says

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<v Speaker 5>it's because of safety concerns. Now, look, I would have

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<v Speaker 5>thought this was an open and case.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I can tell you what it is.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a case of crazy bureaucracy where someone is trying

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<v Speaker 5>to save his own life and his family's life, and

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:10.799
<v Speaker 5>he's been told all no, because it's on a piece

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<v Speaker 5>of paper here, that these things aren't legal, that you

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<v Speaker 5>can't possibly.

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<v Speaker 1>Do that because of safety.

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<v Speaker 5>So what they're worried that the bunker he has built

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<v Speaker 5>might be unsafe and I don't know, that might lead

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<v Speaker 5>to his death more than they're worried about the fact

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<v Speaker 5>that he could be in a house in the middle

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<v Speaker 5>of a bush fire and that mightn't lead to his death.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they prefer him to hide in his car with

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<v Speaker 2>his family than in a building approved bunker. The last

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<v Speaker 2>major bushfires in Adelaide were twenty nineteen, right, they were

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<v Speaker 2>the really treaded. So the council have had five years

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<v Speaker 2>to get a bit of legislation, put it in the

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<v Speaker 2>documents or whatever, and sign off on it. Surely, how

0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:49.920
<v Speaker 2>long does it take to do that. Victoria have already

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<v Speaker 2>done it. So they could literally copy and paste what

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<v Speaker 2>Victoria have done. Yeah, put it in their own statutes

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<v Speaker 2>and it would be done in a week.

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<v Speaker 7>Also, this is their own land.

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<v Speaker 4>How can you not build build a bunker which cost

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<v Speaker 4>them twenty five thousand dollars to ensure their safety in

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<v Speaker 4>the event of another fire like they did survive in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 7>How How can it curls my hair when we talk.

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<v Speaker 4>About restrictions placed on people doing common sense things on

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<v Speaker 4>their own property.

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<v Speaker 7>Fair enough, if you're going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Start building a small town out there on your.

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<v Speaker 7>Property, that's going to be an issue.

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<v Speaker 4>But something is common sense, as an underground bunker in

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<v Speaker 4>the case of another fire.

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<v Speaker 7>They should be encouraging everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>Who could get caught up in another bushfire like twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 7>Everyone, if you can afford it, do it. Go for

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<v Speaker 7>your life.

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 4>Like the family have said, it meets the National Building Code.

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:48.759
<v Speaker 4>They built it according to the National Building Code and

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<v Speaker 4>it's just and rather than the local government going, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 4>we need to amend rules around this.

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<v Speaker 7>Clearly no, we're going to find them for taking the initiative.

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<v Speaker 2>If there's a fire, I doubt they'll worry what council says,

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to go to a break when we come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Self funded retiree is about to be hit by the

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<v Speaker 2>government for aged care costs that's coming up in a month. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back. Let's take a look at what's making news

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<v Speaker 2>in tomorrow's papers. Liz, you've got the Adelaide Advertiser and

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<v Speaker 2>a really interesting story about a private school.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, you may recall this story of a young boy

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<v Speaker 4>who was expelled.

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<v Speaker 7>After winning against a football match against.

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<v Speaker 4>An opposing school, and then a group of the boys

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<v Speaker 4>got together and let the opposing schools blazer on fire.

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<v Speaker 4>Headline reads Blackfriars burnt our Sorry Son. The parents of

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<v Speaker 4>a year twelve student expelled from Blackfriars Priory School for

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<v Speaker 4>burning a rival school sport jacket claim a student selling

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:52.279
<v Speaker 4>drugs to younger boys and another student involved in a.

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<v Speaker 7>Bashing were allowed to stay.

0:39:55.480 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 4>The devastated couple said their son had been made a

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<v Speaker 4>scapegoat for a foolish schoolboy prank, and that while he

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<v Speaker 4>should have been punished, his penalty wasn't fair and had

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<v Speaker 4>left him unable to finish year twelve. His family is

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<v Speaker 4>now considering legal action and I hope they do it.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope they take these guys to court. That is

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<v Speaker 4>utterly a disproportionate punishment the guys in year twelve. It's

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<v Speaker 4>one of the most Well, it is the most important

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<v Speaker 4>year of your stolastic life. It decides what yuni you'll

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<v Speaker 4>get into, what courses you'll get into. And like I

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<v Speaker 4>said at the time, and I'm not sorry to repeat,

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<v Speaker 4>if I was his mum, I would have been a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit proud.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's quite.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, visceral, but these boys have got all

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<v Speaker 4>this testosterone running around in their body and they thought

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<v Speaker 4>it was a good idea.

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<v Speaker 7>At the time, nobody was hurt. It was purely symbolic.

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<v Speaker 4>They were enjoying a victory and they decided to celebrate

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<v Speaker 4>it in a very boyish way.

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<v Speaker 2>If you'd done it fifteen years ago, the footay coach

0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 2>would have said, we love that merit anything to win.

0:40:57.320 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 2>And there were twenty six students I believe, who were

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<v Speaker 2>in this and this particular kid just happened to be

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<v Speaker 2>unlucky enough to be the one who actually managed to

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<v Speaker 2>set the thing on fire after other kids had tried

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<v Speaker 2>and failed. And when they went to the school and

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<v Speaker 2>had a meeting, the parents asked, well, rather than be expelled,

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:17.040
<v Speaker 2>what if he didn't come back to school? What if

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<v Speaker 2>he just did remote learning for the final ten weeks

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<v Speaker 2>of year twelve, and they said no to even that. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>as you said, Liz, another kid who sold cannabis and

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<v Speaker 2>vapes to other students was not expelled. And seven older

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:35.400
<v Speaker 2>students who bashed one younger student none of them suffered

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:38.839
<v Speaker 2>any major consequences. One was suspended, the other six kids

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:41.320
<v Speaker 2>no punishment at all. But this kid for setting a

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<v Speaker 2>football jersey on fire ten weeks before the end of school.

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<v Speaker 5>And I gone, I think it was because in that

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<v Speaker 5>same week Pembroke School in Adelaide had been caught up

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:52.879
<v Speaker 5>in a controversy where the students had been caught out

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<v Speaker 5>with like a fine system in the football team where

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<v Speaker 5>if you had an ugly girlfriend to pay up fifty

0:41:57.280 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 5>dollars all this stuff, And so I think they fell like, ah,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, the media attention is honest this week, we've

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<v Speaker 5>got to do something. But I mean, for heaven's sake,

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<v Speaker 5>the boy did not deserve to be suspended. It's not

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<v Speaker 5>like he was eating the dogs or the cats or anything.

0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:13.319
<v Speaker 5>For heaven's sake, Let's go to the Daily Telegraph by the.

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<v Speaker 2>Way before we go. If they were trying to avoid

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<v Speaker 2>media attention, how well has that worked out?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, he's making.

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<v Speaker 5>Go to that Daily Telegraph where it says hate Chip

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<v Speaker 5>group could share in two.

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<v Speaker 1>Point four million dollar grant, laughing all the way.

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<v Speaker 2>To the bank.

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 5>Sydney Islamic group with ties to a sheik who said

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<v Speaker 5>he was smiling and elated by the October seven attacks

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<v Speaker 5>on Israel has been invited to apply for a share

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<v Speaker 5>of two point four million dollars in federal government grant money. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, it's one thing to sort of put grant

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<v Speaker 5>money out into the ether and say well, if you

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<v Speaker 5>want to come.

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 1>And apply for and go for your life. But I've

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<v Speaker 1>been actually reaching out to organizations.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, hey, by the way, there's a better government money here,

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<v Speaker 5>if you want to come and get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you'd think they vet the people they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to offer this money to first, wouldn't you.

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<v Speaker 7>Indeed, and there's no deed.

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<v Speaker 4>The full article isn't yet up online, so we only

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 4>have what we've read to you. But it begs the question, firstly,

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<v Speaker 4>who the hell has invited this guy to apply for

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.920
<v Speaker 4>some of this funding, and secondly, what is this grant?

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:22.359
<v Speaker 4>This two point four million grant that obviously will be apportioned.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not all going to one person But what kind

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 4>of grant is this that a man of his character

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<v Speaker 4>or lack thereof has been hit up to apply for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's hope it's a seminar on inclusion and tolerance. There

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<v Speaker 2>will be money well spent. Let's go the front page

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<v Speaker 2>of the Career Mail. The headline reads, okay, boomers cough

0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 2>up new aged care residents set to pay more. Self

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 2>funded retirees and part pensioners will pay more for their

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 2>aged care at home or in residential facilities under an

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:55.840
<v Speaker 2>overhaul of the system following a deal between Labor and

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the Coalition. Now, obviously the cost of aged care continue

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:03.600
<v Speaker 2>used to expand with an aging population, so the government's

0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 2>desperately trying to wind back the expense. They're going to

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<v Speaker 2>spend four point three billion dollars helping elderly people to

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<v Speaker 2>stay in their homes rather than move early to aged

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:17.480
<v Speaker 2>care facilities, and they reckon by doing that, they'll save

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:21.800
<v Speaker 2>themselves twelve point six billion dollars over the coming decade.

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<v Speaker 2>But it does mean that aged care residents with quote

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 2>sufficient means will pay more for services like haircuts, showering,

0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:34.760
<v Speaker 2>those sorts of things, and so some self funded retirees

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<v Speaker 2>could be up for about thirteen thousand dollars a year

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<v Speaker 2>extra for their aged care, according to the report.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it kind of makes you wonder why you

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<v Speaker 5>bothered to become a self funded retiring in the I

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<v Speaker 5>tried really hard to not be a burden on the taxpayer,

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<v Speaker 5>and then you make it more hard.

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<v Speaker 7>We'll just incentivizing retiring apovo.

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<v Speaker 4>Just be like, you know what, I'm going to spend

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<v Speaker 4>all my cash before I get to that point, because

0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:00.400
<v Speaker 4>you guys have sold me down the river. Let's not

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:03.800
<v Speaker 4>forget Our government knows its own demographics.

0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:07.479
<v Speaker 7>They have known for decades that they are looking at an.

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<v Speaker 4>Age care tsunami in this country with our aging population.

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:13.360
<v Speaker 7>Did they prepare for it?

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<v Speaker 2>No, yes they have. They look at all the migrants

0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:16.959
<v Speaker 2>they're bringing in. That's their plan.

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<v Speaker 4>It just it absolutely discussed me the state of age

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<v Speaker 4>care in this country to the front page of the Australia.

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<v Speaker 7>Now, officers let off over war crimes.

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 4>Senior commanders have been let off the hook for war

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 4>crimes on their watching Afghanistan. The Coalition and senior defense

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 4>figures have warned. After Richard Miles stripped medals from fewer

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:42.520
<v Speaker 4>than ten current and former officers for failing to prevent

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:45.320
<v Speaker 4>murders by their subordinates.

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<v Speaker 7>Man, this is a grisly one. Some people are in favor,

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<v Speaker 7>some people are against.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just you can't You can never keep everyone happy

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:54.040
<v Speaker 4>on this.

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<v Speaker 7>But when the evidence is what it is, the government

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<v Speaker 7>has to be seen to do something.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's dirty to send people overseas and then

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<v Speaker 5>punish them for things that happen in the fog of war.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think it's even dirty that Angus Campbell, who

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<v Speaker 5>was head of the Defense Force at the time, hasn't

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<v Speaker 5>lost any of his honors.

0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:15.120
<v Speaker 1>He was the man ultimately in charge. Others below him

0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 1>have lost their honors, but not him. Why fair question.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to go to a break when we come back.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden, is he now a Trump supporter? More of

0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 2>that number? Okay, we reported earlier that the US presidential

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 2>debate didn't change the polling, but it might have changed

0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 2>one person's mind.

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<v Speaker 7>Liz, this is just unbelievable.

0:46:35.320 --> 0:46:37.719
<v Speaker 4>Before we show you this clip, let's all take a

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 4>moment to remember Joe Biden is still the President of

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:46.320
<v Speaker 4>the United States of America, so you can imagine just

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:50.200
<v Speaker 4>how viral pictures of him wearing a Trump twenty twenty

0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:55.280
<v Speaker 4>four cap has gone. He was visiting a firefighters station

0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:59.799
<v Speaker 4>in honor of nine to eleven yesterday, and when one

0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:02.160
<v Speaker 4>of the firefighters asked him to put him on, he

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 4>actually obliged.

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<v Speaker 6>YEA her name, I don't remember my name.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm small.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, man, O, God, there you go.

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 9>Man, I forgot you kind need that hat.

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:20.560
<v Speaker 5>He'll know.

0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:40.319
<v Speaker 6>I'm going out for very I'm drown you out.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember knowing me?

0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:50.440
<v Speaker 7>Cats unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 4>Many commentators have then posed the question, is this once

0:47:54.960 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 4>again proving Trump right when he said in yesterday's debate, we.

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<v Speaker 15>Had no problems when Trump was president. But when this weak,

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<v Speaker 15>pathetic man that you saw at a debate just a

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<v Speaker 15>few months ago that if he weren't in that debate,

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<v Speaker 15>he'd be running on sead of her.

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<v Speaker 6>She got no votes. He got fourteen million votes.

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<v Speaker 15>What you did?

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<v Speaker 6>You talk about a threat to democracy? He got fourteen

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<v Speaker 6>million votes, and they threw him out of office. And

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<v Speaker 6>you know what, I'll give you a little secret. He

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<v Speaker 6>hates her. He can't stand her.

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<v Speaker 7>It would appear to be the case. He hates her.

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<v Speaker 7>He gone standard. This guy got fourteen million votes. They

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<v Speaker 7>threw him out like a dog.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the best I have seen so Biden. He's just

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<v Speaker 5>riffen along with the guy. The guy's making fun of him.

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<v Speaker 5>He's making fun of the guy. He was playing along

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<v Speaker 5>with the joke. It's almost like since they told Biden, actually,

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<v Speaker 5>you're not running in November, a weight has been lifted

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<v Speaker 5>off his shoulders and he can have a bit of

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<v Speaker 5>fun with himself.

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<v Speaker 4>I reckon it's more a case of he's tired of

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<v Speaker 4>being the establishment shill. They did throw him out like

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<v Speaker 4>a dog, so now he's like, you know what sort it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the president of the United States of America and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm wearing the opposition's hat.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care well on that note, we need to go,

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<v Speaker 2>but stick around. Coming up is the Rita Pennehy shows.

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<v Speaker 11>They're eating the cats eat the cat, eat the cat.

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<v Speaker 11>They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats, eat the cat,

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<v Speaker 11>eat the cat. There eating the dogs. They're eating the

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<v Speaker 11>cats eat the cat.