WEBVTT - Q&A:Bung Siriboon, Badness Binse and more

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<v Speaker 1>When he was on the outside of the walls, he

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<v Speaker 1>would rob things.

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<v Speaker 2>He's good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>He was mad, he was bad, he was athletic, he

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<v Speaker 1>was tough, he was fast, he's pretty funny, could do

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<v Speaker 1>amazing stuff. But when a kid is walking to school

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<v Speaker 1>at nine am and vanishes, that really hits.

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<v Speaker 2>Home to all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't like it because we really think that could

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<v Speaker 1>be our child. I'm Andrew Rule, this is life and Crimes,

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<v Speaker 1>and once more I'm being subjected to questions from John Burton,

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<v Speaker 1>our chief producer, editor and engineer.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Andrew, and thank you everyone who has supplied

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<v Speaker 3>us with more questions. We are always in the market

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<v Speaker 3>for questions, so if you do have them, we will

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<v Speaker 3>give the address at the end of this episode, so

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<v Speaker 3>as to preserve some sense of mystery as to how

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<v Speaker 3>you can send them. In first question from Joanne, So Joanne,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll paraphrase your question if I may. Her father

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<v Speaker 3>was a bank manager at Noble Park and had the

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<v Speaker 3>misfortune of potentially coming face to face with Christopher Binns

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<v Speaker 3>when he was in the process of robbing banks, and

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<v Speaker 3>Joanne was interested in a point in time in Christopher

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<v Speaker 3>Binns's life that she had heard that he had escaped

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<v Speaker 3>custody mister Binns and actually had gone back to a

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<v Speaker 3>life of robbing banks. Was that the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Now, I'm not going to call Christopher Binns by

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<v Speaker 1>the nickname that my friend and former colleague John Sylvester

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<v Speaker 1>gave him. John was rude enough to go in rubbish Bins,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought was the height of bad manners and

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<v Speaker 1>also courting disaster. Because before we answer the question, it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out that Bins was once pulled up by the

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<v Speaker 1>police when he was on one of his rare times

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<v Speaker 1>out and about, and he had a notebook in the

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<v Speaker 1>car with him, and he had various names shritten down,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of them was John Sylvester's name, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had a suburb written down next to it, which wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually the precise suburb where John was living then, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was the one next door. It was nearby, so

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<v Speaker 1>just say, you know, he had Oakley and John was

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<v Speaker 1>in Clayton something like that that was not far away.

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<v Speaker 1>And that gave John pause for thought, and he thought,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think i'll call him Rubbishpins anymore. We'll call

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<v Speaker 1>him badness, because that's what he calls himself. The question

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<v Speaker 1>is that did he go back to robbing banks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he is a very keen or has been was until

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<v Speaker 1>you know, lately, because he's been locked up for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. When he was on the outside of the walls,

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<v Speaker 1>he would rob things. He's good at it. He was mad,

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<v Speaker 1>he was bad, he was athletic, he was tough, he

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<v Speaker 1>was fast, he's pretty funny, could do amazing stuff as

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<v Speaker 1>escape artist, really good at it up there with sort

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<v Speaker 1>of mad Dog Cox and those guys. When it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to that stuff, I think he wants it a like

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<v Speaker 1>a Fosberry flop, you know, jump over some raizor wire

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<v Speaker 1>on top of a prison wall. He would jump across

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<v Speaker 1>a wide gap between one wall and another, take a

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<v Speaker 1>running jump and make it just like you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like a stuntman on Hollywood standing in for

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<v Speaker 1>some Hollywood actor. He got himself admitted to hospital, I

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<v Speaker 1>think some Vincent secure ward in Melbourne with probably a

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<v Speaker 1>fictitious ailment. Maybe he said he had a tummy ache

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<v Speaker 1>and they probably thought it was a bindercitus or something. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>he gets in there and lo and behold, his dear

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<v Speaker 1>old dad comes to see him. His name Dad's name

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<v Speaker 1>has not been's. Dad's name is a short, sharp Slavic name.

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<v Speaker 1>When did I see? I think and Dad is also

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<v Speaker 1>I've been, you know, knock about fellow. He wasn't sort

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<v Speaker 1>of in the church choir, Dad and Dad's turned up

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a large rodeo belt, you know, like.

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<v Speaker 2>The cowboys wearing rodeos.

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<v Speaker 1>And buckle on the big buckle, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that Dad had actually been. Although he was a knock about,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he was a bull rider. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he was more bullshit artus. Dad is wearing the big

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<v Speaker 1>belt buckle, and when he goes through the scanner to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Into the secure ward to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Everloving son Chris, the scanner goes off and he says,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bloody belt buckle always happens, and screw the

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<v Speaker 1>officer just waved him through. Well that was good because

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<v Speaker 1>when he got inside, it turns out, allegedly allegedly that

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<v Speaker 1>he had a small pistol either behind the buckle or

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere about his person. But the buckler given him the cover,

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<v Speaker 1>the cover of the alarm, and so he was able

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<v Speaker 1>to hand this small derringer about. It's because of water

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<v Speaker 1>pistol to his son, who it's amazing, what'll fix the pendicitis?

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<v Speaker 1>Because there he was in great pain before this and

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly wasn't. He was running around with a shooter, and

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<v Speaker 1>he got out of the hospital and away he went,

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<v Speaker 1>and he started robbing places all over again.

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<v Speaker 3>So the interesting thing about Joanne and her question is

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<v Speaker 3>her father had actually been held up three times as

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<v Speaker 3>his bank employee, and she suggests or is wondering that

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<v Speaker 3>perhaps two of those times was mister Bins.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I think that'd be on the cards, depending which

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<v Speaker 1>era this is, because Bins was one of the last

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<v Speaker 1>of the Mullicans back when bank robberies were going out

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<v Speaker 1>of style. He was doing quite a lot of them,

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<v Speaker 1>which meant that, of course he came under suspicion a

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<v Speaker 1>lot because there weren't a lot of other good practitioners

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<v Speaker 1>and coppers with it's another Bin's job. He's out and about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's him, and he had his own specific sort of

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<v Speaker 1>way of doing things. One of his ways of doing

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<v Speaker 1>things was to go around until he saw a police

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<v Speaker 1>guard going past, and he thought that was good luck.

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<v Speaker 1>If he saw a police guard go past him in

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<v Speaker 1>the street and head off in another direction. He thought, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't see that one again. It's gone, So then

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<v Speaker 1>he'd go in and rob a bank. He'd wait to

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<v Speaker 1>see one go past. You know, it's not so silly.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mean rabbit foot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all that different. You know, we have different things

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<v Speaker 1>of luck, and that was his good. Luck didn't always.

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<v Speaker 3>Work, so Joanne, Yes, that is possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, hugely likely.

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<v Speaker 1>If it was late late eighties, early nineties. I think

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps the mid nineties. There were very few other practitioners

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<v Speaker 1>still around. In the seventies, there were lots of arm

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<v Speaker 1>robbers and there they were with their old army revolves

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<v Speaker 1>and sawn Off shotguns and sawn Off twenty two's running

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<v Speaker 1>around holding.

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<v Speaker 2>Up payrolls and all sorts of things. There were big

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<v Speaker 2>payrolls in those days.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm old enough remember when we got cash in the

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<v Speaker 1>hand every Wednesday or every Thursday, whatever it was. Vast

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<v Speaker 1>amounts of money went into every major organization and you're

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<v Speaker 1>queued up and you've got a pay packet with cash

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<v Speaker 1>in it. Everyone in the building got it. And that

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<v Speaker 1>meant every big employer in Victoria in Australia had a

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<v Speaker 1>huge amount of cash every payday, and there were a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of targets for around Robertson.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're saying, Andrew, just to go a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>inside baseball. You're saying that in jobbing newsrooms, there once

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<v Speaker 3>was a time where every week, every on in it

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<v Speaker 3>they would be a wash with cash.

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<v Speaker 1>They did, and not only they got a paypacket, their

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<v Speaker 1>proper paypacket with the cash wages. You got a little

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<v Speaker 1>buff envelope, a little tiny.

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<v Speaker 2>Envelope but as big as just a.

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<v Speaker 1>Few centimeter square, and that would have folded in your

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<v Speaker 1>expense money. And that was you know, you put in

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<v Speaker 1>an expense form saying I bought a pot and a

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<v Speaker 1>parmejana and whatever and the two biros, whatever it was

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<v Speaker 1>when I was entertaining police or entertaining something, and they

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<v Speaker 1>would give.

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<v Speaker 2>You cash money for that.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was just like Christmas, because you'd get you

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty eight dollars wages, and you might

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<v Speaker 1>get fifteen or twenty bucks expenses, and of course you

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<v Speaker 1>goes straight to the pub with the expenses and spend

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<v Speaker 1>it all over again.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to say, it seems like a very

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<v Speaker 3>dangerous thing to first have that amount of money.

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<v Speaker 2>It was, Yes, those were the days.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, we have a question from Candace and she loves

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<v Speaker 3>true crime, especially cold cases, and she asks, I've been

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<v Speaker 3>listening to the Margaret and shawna Tap case on your podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't help but wonder why, if there is DNA

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<v Speaker 3>available to test, we can't use genetic genealogy to solve

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<v Speaker 3>this case. And wondering if that's just not something we

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<v Speaker 3>do in Australia yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think if all else was equal and we

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<v Speaker 1>had all the good samples still available to the modern

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<v Speaker 1>forensic scientists, that they could do that.

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<v Speaker 2>But what it.

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<v Speaker 1>Does depend on, and we've seen big cases solved like

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<v Speaker 1>this in America. The Golden State Killer in California, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>was solved that way, and there's been some other interesting developments.

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<v Speaker 1>It needs people to voluntarily given DNA samples so that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a bank of them out in the world so

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<v Speaker 1>that they can get hits. So unless relatives of the

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<v Speaker 1>presumed killer, unless relatives of the presum killer have handed

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<v Speaker 1>in DNA samples to some central database, there's nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>work with. Meanwhile, the police, of course possibly we hope,

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<v Speaker 1>have a viable DNA sample still.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, this was basically.

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<v Speaker 1>A semen sample taken from clothing in nineteen eighty four.

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<v Speaker 1>There is every chance that it might have degraded or

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<v Speaker 1>been lost or broken up or something so that it's

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<v Speaker 1>no longer as viable as it should be or could be.

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<v Speaker 1>And we know in this case that there's already been

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<v Speaker 1>one wrongful arrest made of a serving prisoner, a guy

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<v Speaker 1>called Russell Geeser, on the basis of DNA, and subsequently

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<v Speaker 1>it was proven that the DNA testing process was flawed.

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<v Speaker 1>There'd been a bungle in the lab. Now that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to present a lot of problems for forensics and

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<v Speaker 1>for the police because A had they still got viable

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<v Speaker 1>DNA viable samples? B Are they open to major questions

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<v Speaker 1>from defense counsel about the efficiency of their processes in

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<v Speaker 1>the forensic lab. These are the two big problems.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Ladies and gentlemen, you may have just heard an

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<v Speaker 3>time that we go to the mister Krawl segment of

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<v Speaker 3>the show. These, of course, are becoming a Hardy Perennial

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<v Speaker 3>of the Q and A specials Amberley asks a long

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<v Speaker 3>time listener of the podcast, thank you, Amberley. We'd love

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<v Speaker 3>to know if there has been any connection or investigation

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<v Speaker 3>into the possible link between mister Kraule and the disappearance

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<v Speaker 3>of Cherry Westall and or bung Syraboon.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that the police have looked at every missing

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<v Speaker 1>person that fits the category. You know, young females, no

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<v Speaker 1>doubt about it. I don't know much about Cherry Bunk Sirraburn.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done a bit on over the years. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a genuine mystery and it's going to be one of

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<v Speaker 1>two things. It's going to be either the suburban monster

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<v Speaker 1>that none of us know is a monster, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the bloke driving around in a youth station making is

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<v Speaker 1>something going from job to job, handyman, lawn mowing, tree,

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<v Speaker 1>cut up, you know whatever. Something who's seen this kid

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<v Speaker 1>walking along the street and snatched her and got away

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<v Speaker 1>with it, acted on impulse, grabbed that and no one

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<v Speaker 1>was watching, No one heard a noise, No cameras or

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<v Speaker 1>security cameras or any dash camera any of that caught it.

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<v Speaker 1>That can happen. It's a little bit like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>flipping a coin and it lands on its edge. But

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<v Speaker 1>it can happen the other option, and it's not one

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<v Speaker 1>that many people endorse, and I merely.

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<v Speaker 2>Throw it up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's conceivable that Bunk Syra Boom is a victim of

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of unseen Asian crime syndicate thing. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to delve into all that, all the scenarios, because

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<v Speaker 1>they'd be totally speculation. That is total speculation on my part.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no knowledge of such a thing happening to her.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is conceivable that she was snatched not by

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<v Speaker 1>the tattooed yobo that has been watching too many bad videos,

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<v Speaker 1>but by professional crooks who are acting on orders to

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<v Speaker 1>do with some form of organized crime. They're the two options.

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<v Speaker 1>Rank amateur, a very rank amateur or by that I

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<v Speaker 1>mean smells rank as well, or professional, probably Asian organized crime.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people will p poo that, and they

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<v Speaker 1>might be right.

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<v Speaker 3>It is interesting that we're talking about mister Crawl, but

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<v Speaker 3>the Mister Crawl case and the Bunk Cerebone case. For

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<v Speaker 3>both of those cases, the cases lived on in people's

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<v Speaker 3>imagination far more than many others.

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<v Speaker 1>They do some grasp the public imagination in ways, and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's just the name gets into the people's heads.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like an earworm. Easy Street has always been in

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<v Speaker 1>people's heads in a way that I think if it

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<v Speaker 1>had been called arbuthnot Straight, it would not have. Easy

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<v Speaker 1>Street is easy to remember. It's a catchy phrase. It

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like a song title or whatever it is, and

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<v Speaker 1>we've never forgotten it. And I think that bunk Sorriboon

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<v Speaker 1>is a bit the same. There's something about the name

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<v Speaker 1>that sticks in people's heads. The fact that a little girl,

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<v Speaker 1>a teenager can just vanish off the street while she's

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<v Speaker 1>walking to school in broad daylight absolutely horrifies people. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when a twenty three year old vanishes from a nightclub

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<v Speaker 1>at two am, it's equally bad and equally awful and

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<v Speaker 1>terrible for balaties and friends, of course, But the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of us go, oh, well, she's an adult, she's at

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<v Speaker 1>a nightclub at two am, she's you know, rubbing shoulders

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<v Speaker 1>with bad dude. But when a kid is walking to

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<v Speaker 1>school at nine am and vanishes, that really hits home

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<v Speaker 1>to all of us. We don't like it because we

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<v Speaker 1>really think that could be our child.

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<v Speaker 3>Another question about mister Crawl comes from Carly Thanks Carly.

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<v Speaker 3>Carly says that when she was growing up that her

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<v Speaker 3>neighbor was apparently a suspect. Her dad was given this

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<v Speaker 3>information by a police officer after reporting a series of

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<v Speaker 3>bizarre breakings at their home in Smith's Gully to the

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<v Speaker 3>Althham Police. Don't know if anything came out of it,

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<v Speaker 3>but Elthham was an interesting place, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>On the outer edge of what we would call mister

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<v Speaker 1>cruel territory. And I remember doing a story a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago to that effect that there were various

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<v Speaker 1>reasons to look at Elham. But of course when police

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<v Speaker 1>are looking for somebody like mister Krule, they don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who they're looking for. Any weird crime to do with

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<v Speaker 1>bizarre breakings or crimes that would appear to be aimed

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<v Speaker 1>at families who have girls that age, they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>naturally wonder if it's to do with mister Krule. Both

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<v Speaker 1>the police and the locals and everybody else and the media,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all going to think about it. They can't all

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<v Speaker 1>be mister Crule, but you know, any one of them

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<v Speaker 1>might be. It's just this is the problem with those things.

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<v Speaker 1>It raises the fever pitch speculation about any offender in

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<v Speaker 1>any post. You go, oh my god, that sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>mister Krul and if you know, maybe it is. You

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<v Speaker 1>think at this distance that whoever mister Krule was has

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<v Speaker 1>either got too old or too dead to re offend,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can hope, or ended up in jail on

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<v Speaker 1>other matters.

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<v Speaker 3>And lastly, a non mister Crule question. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>a request from Jesse, please make an episode on and

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<v Speaker 3>you will have heard of Beep there listeners, because we

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<v Speaker 3>can't use that person's name. We still can't. We still can't,

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<v Speaker 3>they say, or Jesse says that Ivan Mulatt is so

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<v Speaker 3>well known but did very little compared to Beep.

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<v Speaker 1>Beep is a fascinating case. Beep has been written about

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<v Speaker 1>at length by a colleague of ours in Queensland, Matthew Condon,

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<v Speaker 1>who is a very fine journalist, a very good writer,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's written a lot of interesting books about goings

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<v Speaker 1>on in Queensland, particularly criminal and political, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>his better books is about Beep.

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<v Speaker 3>And to be fair, Jesse, we actually have recorded an

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<v Speaker 3>episode about Deep, about Deep, and we are just waiting

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<v Speaker 3>for Beep to either get through beeps of various legal

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<v Speaker 3>travails or preferably die and then as soon as that happens, Jesse.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll go full Monty. In fact, we ought to try

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<v Speaker 1>and get Matthew Condon on to talk about it, or

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<v Speaker 1>someone else from up there who can talk with authority

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<v Speaker 1>about him, because I do know I know an old

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<v Speaker 1>scallywagg and old bird smuggler that could talk about Beep

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<v Speaker 1>and the Brisbane crime scene, particularly in the past. He

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<v Speaker 1>was very tough but relatively small, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the crooks know each other or know of each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you've got a good contact up there, they

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<v Speaker 1>can talk with some authority about such things. And Beep

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<v Speaker 1>was used by other crooks. I mean he killed people

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<v Speaker 1>on his own account because he's more or less a

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<v Speaker 1>criminal serial killer, if that makes sense. He's both a

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<v Speaker 1>criminal who hit man, but he's a serial killer as well.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a very bad man and very twisted. And there

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<v Speaker 1>are those who suspect was the last to see alive

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<v Speaker 1>more than thirty people, the last person to see alive

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<v Speaker 1>more than thirty people, most of them are just gone

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<v Speaker 1>on the missing list.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Jesse, that's a watch this space because when we

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<v Speaker 3>can we will thank you very much for everyone who

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<v Speaker 3>has put in their questions. If you have questions, please

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<v Speaker 3>send them in. They don't necessarily all have to be

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<v Speaker 3>about mister Crawl. Either send them into Life and Crimes

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<v Speaker 3>at news dot com dot Au or if you are

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<v Speaker 3>like Jesse and have potentially a request for a show,

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<v Speaker 3>you can send them in as well. But if you

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<v Speaker 3>have a news tip on an active piece of crime

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<v Speaker 3>you can send it to his email address, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Andrew dot Rule at news dot com dot Au.

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<v Speaker 1>That email address again, Andrew full stop Rule are U

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<v Speaker 1>l E at news dot com dot Au.

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