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Speaker 1: Hi'm i Boris and this is straight Talk. Caitlyn Ford.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to straight Talk.

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Speaker 2: I think that's that competitive nature. I want to get

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Speaker 2: the better of my opponent. If you would have asked

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Speaker 2: me when I was in school having to sell chocolates

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Speaker 2: to make money to go play football, I wouldn't think

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Speaker 2: I would be where I am today and what I've done.

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Speaker 1: I think the imagine the pressure that must be on

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Speaker 1: them to keep that goal. I can't imagine what it's

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Speaker 1: like when you knew all of Australia was watching. Does

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Speaker 1: it put more edge on it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? That drives us as well. Now to have some

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Speaker 2: silverware for our success.

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Speaker 1: You said silverwhere I'm looking for gold where exactly? Caitlyn Ford,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to straight talk.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Thrilled to have you here, to be honest here Like so,

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Speaker 1: I've never had a a person who represents something A

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Speaker 1: sport that's become so significant in Australia is such in

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Speaker 1: my view anyway, such a short period in the studio

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Speaker 1: we had lots of rugby league guys and that sort

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Speaker 1: of stuff. But women's football, I won't call it soccer

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Speaker 1: is it's like a phenomenon now in Australia has been

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Speaker 1: since in my world, I'm a rugby league dude, but

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Speaker 1: like has become in my world since probably the Matilda's

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Speaker 1: last year. Like, it's been a big deal all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden in my life and probably everybody else's life.

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Speaker 1: So thanks for coming in. It's a big thrill for me.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. It's an honor to be

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Speaker 2: the first, I guess female footballer as well, so I'm

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Speaker 2: excited to be here and have a chat.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. How's your injury by the way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my injuries as good. It's not as bad as

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Speaker 2: I guess what it's seen. Been ruled out for the

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Speaker 2: second game. We had a long travel and off the

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Speaker 2: back of a long season over in England, and I

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Speaker 2: think we arrived on the Wednesday morning, had a game

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Speaker 2: on Friday, and it kind of pulled up tight after

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Speaker 2: that game and we built me into nicely into the

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Speaker 2: first Matilda's game in Adelaide. But yeah, as soon as

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Speaker 2: I got out there, it just didn't feel right. So

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Speaker 2: in my heads with history with you know, soft tissue injuries,

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Speaker 2: I knew this isn't the time to risk it. So

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Speaker 2: I just sat down and I guess that comes with

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Speaker 2: my maturity and experience.

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Speaker 1: How old are you now this year? That's maturity I wish.

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Speaker 2: And then yeah, they just didn't want to risk it

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Speaker 2: for the second game, which was I was happy with

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Speaker 2: that as well. I was disappointed not to be out

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Speaker 2: there and play in Sydney at Stadium Australia because it's

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Speaker 2: an awesome stadium to player. We have a lot of

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Speaker 2: memories there as well. But the girls did an amazing

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Speaker 2: job and I was happy to sit there and watch

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Speaker 2: it and enjoy it as well.

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Speaker 1: And the actual injury, you said, it's a soft tissue.

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Speaker 1: Is it a tear or is it a what are

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Speaker 1: we talking about it?

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Speaker 2: Well, we didn't actually get me a scan because they

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Speaker 2: just wanted to treat clinically how it looked, and a

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Speaker 2: scan before the game wasn't going to change if I

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Speaker 2: time off now, so they just thought we'll treat it

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Speaker 2: as is a tear because I have the time to

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Speaker 2: build it up and just get strong.

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Speaker 1: And what does that mean build it up? Like? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you speak about that, like obviously you guys are dealing

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Speaker 1: with injuries all the time because that's pretty typical if

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Speaker 1: anybody's putting so much pressure on themselves all the time,

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Speaker 1: like in terms of training and playing. And when you

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Speaker 1: play in the UK, like you play a lot. It's

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Speaker 1: not like you play more than once a week. I

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Speaker 1: mean I often hear it on the on SBS three,

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Speaker 1: which is the BBC, they talk about football in the UK,

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Speaker 1: men's and women, and it seems like the amount of

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Speaker 1: times you play is a lot more than like one week.

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Speaker 1: What is the cadence of your UK obligations when it

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Speaker 1: comes to playing footy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the schedule is hectic and it's a very long season,

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Speaker 2: especially if you're in all competitions. So for example, this year,

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Speaker 2: we will be in Champions League because we finished third

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Speaker 2: go through the qualification stage, so our season will actually

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Speaker 2: group stage of Champions League to try and get out

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Speaker 3: So we'll start with that.

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Speaker 2: Then the season and then if you're in the COUNTI Cup,

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Speaker 2: the FA Cup, so that's all competitions. Yeah, you play

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Speaker 2: And that's kind of ongoing nearly every week, if not

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Speaker 2: every second week. So there's a lot of games. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot of minutes to be played. That's why it's

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Speaker 2: nice to be a club like Arsenal. We have so

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Speaker 2: many good players and there is rotation to get through

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Speaker 2: all those games because it isn't possible. That's a high demand.

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Speaker 2: And when I was speaking before about build up, I

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Speaker 2: guess I have a bit of a time to dload

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Speaker 2: now after the long season, I'll have.

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Speaker 3: About two weeks off.

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Speaker 2: But with the little injury, I know it's not much,

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Speaker 2: but for me that's a luxury.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So with.

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Speaker 2: The injury, it would just be about being in the

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Speaker 2: gym getting strong, so then when I get back on

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Speaker 1: So you say you're thirty, if I take you back

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Speaker 1: to when you're sort of like a kid, where'd you

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Speaker 2: I'm from down the coast Rilla Shell Harbor area, so

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Speaker 2: I grew up around there just as a normal kid.

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Speaker 2: There was no football in my life. I was actually

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Speaker 2: rugby league as well. I wanted to play rugby league

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Speaker 2: when I was younger, but my nan didn't let my

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Speaker 2: mum she said if she did, she'd never speak to

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Speaker 2: me again, and I was devastated because I was a

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Speaker 2: rugby league girl, grew up watching it and that's what

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Speaker 2: I wanted to do as well. So yeah, the focus

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Speaker 2: had to turn to something else, and yeah that was football,

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Speaker 2: touch football. I was tagged athletics, everything under the sun.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to do everything.

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Speaker 1: Did you play soccer that like girls girls football?

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Speaker 2: Not until I was nine years old, and that was

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Speaker 2: girl from school and then we played against the boys

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Speaker 1: I always wondered about when a girl and start wants

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Speaker 1: to play rugby league like you did. I don't wonder

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Speaker 1: what is the influence. Is it because they had an

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Speaker 1: older brothers playing footy or what's the reason why did

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Speaker 1: you love rugby league? I mean and contact sports.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to answer because there wasn't really anyone

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Speaker 2: the high level. My mum loves Manly Seagulls, so I

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Speaker 2: got brainwashed as a kid to watch football, to go

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Speaker 2: grew up watching and seeing, and that's what Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: what I wanted to do. I wanted to be out

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Speaker 2: there and I wanted to play football. I used to

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Speaker 2: want to be the ball kid. I wanted to just

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Speaker 2: back playground with the boys at school. I did whatever

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Speaker 2: they did. If they were playing rugby league, I was

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Speaker 2: playing rugby league. If they were playing football, I was

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Speaker 2: doing that. And yeah, I guess I was just really

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Speaker 2: I was good at it. My sister seen I was

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Speaker 1: And when it comes, I mean I've never had.

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Speaker 2: I'm switching back and forth because I'm playing football with

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Speaker 2: rugby league.

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Speaker 1: Football women's football. Probably one might talking about because it

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Speaker 1: you're going to refer to as football, soccer, football doesn't

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Speaker 1: really matter, but well it's called it football. And and

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Speaker 1: did you sort of think because different Ruby League though?

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Speaker 1: So Ruby league's a much more you play the man,

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Speaker 1: you don't play the ball. Whereas in football you're playing soccer,

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Speaker 1: you're playing the football, you're playing the ball. Did you

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Speaker 1: ever sort of think to yourself, it's not physical enough

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Speaker 1: for me. I actually we sort of want to get

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Speaker 2: I think if when you kind of see the way

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Speaker 2: I play, I am physical. I like to get stuck

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Speaker 2: And I think that stems from rugby league.

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Speaker 1: And your frustration aggression.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it stayed within.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think if you spoke to any of

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Speaker 2: the girls, most of them would safe we need like

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Speaker 2: it would most likely probably come from me. And that's

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Speaker 2: kind of a balance I've had to figure out along

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Speaker 2: the way, because you know, if you're too aggressive in soccer,

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Speaker 2: where you have to pull back from how you naturally

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Speaker 2: want to play to avoid getting another one. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: it works in my favor, and sometimes it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I often wondered about that, like sometimes you

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Speaker 1: see of some of the Eastern European sides and men's

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Speaker 1: at least that I've watched pretty aggressive, like you see

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Speaker 1: the serbian sides, the various sides from around that area.

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Speaker 1: The big guys, really aggressive, sort of intimidating, sort of

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Speaker 1: play intimidating footy. Often it lands have in trouble. I've

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Speaker 1: watched you play. You're sort of a bit of an

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Speaker 1: aggressor relatively speaking, I'm talking about. Is that more your

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Speaker 1: personality or is that the style that suits your physicality

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Speaker 1: and your talent the best?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm completely different. I'm the most calm, chilled person,

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Speaker 2: not aggressive or off the field. So yeah, I guess

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Speaker 2: once I'm out there, that's just me out there. That's

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Speaker 2: how I play. That's how you get the best out

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Speaker 2: of me. How I Yeah, when I'm playing at my best,

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Speaker 2: I guess I'm just very aggressive and confident, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: I want to take people on and I don't know,

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Speaker 2: it's just all I think. That's that competitive nature. I

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Speaker 2: want to get the better of my opponent, and in

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Speaker 2: my head sometimes i'd want to make him look silly,

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Speaker 2: and that's what I try and do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I remember I don't know if you remember him,

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Speaker 1: but you might not remember this particularly individual. But if

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Speaker 1: I can get back to believe, there was a guy

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Speaker 1: called Adrian Morley used played for the Roosters, but he

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Speaker 1: was played for an English guy and he is and

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Speaker 1: was the nicest bloke off the field you'd ever met

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Speaker 1: in your life. But when he got on the field,

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Speaker 1: he's sort of his eyes right to roll to the

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Speaker 1: the whites of his eyes, and he turned into a

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Speaker 1: bit of a a fearless guy, like completely fearless. And

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Speaker 1: I know the rusters are always turned to him when

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Speaker 1: there was trouble. He's the guy i'd step up. Do

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Speaker 1: you do you change who you are you get on

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Speaker 3: But I was the same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So therefore, if you were to describe yourself in

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Speaker 2: have said that my aggression my one v one dribbling,

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Speaker 2: We haven't done that one that might be to come.

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's all mind games, really, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's as soon as you start chopping and changing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had had my practice, I'd hit that pen

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Speaker 3: What am I going to do? But I probably would

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Speaker 1: It is it a bit like I mean, maybe I

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Speaker 1: Is it like, can you feel that I've hit the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a sweet hit.

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Speaker 2: You can feel it, and you can you can hear

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So you're sort of and is there an anxiety

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Speaker 2: In that moment? In that moment, Yeah, As I said,

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Speaker 2: the whole penalty shootout. I knew we're going to win

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Speaker 2: that because we were prepared for it. And to have

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Speaker 3: Just had the score hours.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, but like if you had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I probably never would have wanted

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Speaker 1: And who makes a decision who does take the penalty goals.

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Speaker 2: The coach Tony he did, so I didn't know I

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Speaker 2: was going to be first penalty taker.

440
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 3: He just said, do you want to go first?

441
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 1: You don't know from in the beginning of the game, so.

442
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,160
Speaker 3: No, we didn't.

443
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 2: I guess everyone was prepared, so yeah, everyone would have

444
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 2: been ready, but I didn't know until that moment when

445
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 2: you have that little break and we get in a circle. Yeah,

446
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 2: he said, will you take the first one? And I

447
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 2: said yes, and then he went around to everyone else,

448
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 2: like up to ten the order of taking pens.

449
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: But that would have been fairly sort of confronting. I mean,

450
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: I mind, you, you just played ninety minutes of plus oft. Yeah,

451
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 1: that's right. So at that stage or you probably nerves

452
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 1: it or gone because you've been playing the whole time.

453
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,239
Speaker 1: You probably just let me ad it. I mean, as

454
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: opposed to my god, you're just fresh on fresh on

455
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: the field. It'd be different. Was sort of at the

456
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 1: beginning of the game. I just can't imagine the pressure

457
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 1: that's on you, because I mean, I just got to

458
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 1: rugby league games when it's like ten all and it's

459
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 1: like the last minute you score, you know you're kicking

460
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 1: a goal. I think to myself, a look at these guys,

461
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: the young guys too, your age, and I think the

462
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 1: sort of imagine the pressure that must be on them

463
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 1: to kick that goal, and like I wouldn't get to

464
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: kick it from my life depended on it. But that's

465
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 1: sort of pressure. I can't imagine what it's like when

466
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: you knew all of Australia was watching.

467
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing we didn't.

468
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 1: We didn't know, we didn't.

469
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 2: We didn't know how many people were watching until afterwards.

470
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 2: We knew who was in the stadium and who was

471
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 2: watching there, but the extent of how many eyns were

472
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 2: on it. I think maybe if I knew that, I

473
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: probably would have been a little bit more nervous. But

474
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 2: it was good that we didn't know that.

475
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: Can you remind me what date? What Tommy Yew was

476
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: it again?

477
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,119
Speaker 3: When we the world cut was June July?

478
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: So can I just I can know I know exactly

479
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: where I was I was at I was at Alion

480
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: Stadium and I was watching a rugby league game, Roosters playing.

481
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: We were playing, and I can there's no, no, no, no, lie.

482
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: Every time something happened that you guys did. The whole

483
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: stadium must be watching on their phones and they were

484
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: yelling and screaming, but it had no relevance to the

485
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: game that was going on in front of us. In fact,

486
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: some players could looked up at the stay a few times.

487
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: Whatever everyone's cheering them, It's just a nothing. It was

488
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: just a fourth tackle, third tackles among that, and everybody

489
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: was cheering off their phones. Like I was sitting in

490
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: a round, guys at least three of them had their

491
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: phones going and watching the game at the same time.

492
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: So like die hard rugby league people, you know, they're

493
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 1: there for their team. Everybody across the country was watching it.

494
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys obviously didn't know because you're out

495
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: there playing, But does that give you now a higher

496
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: awareness of the importance of how you guys perform and

497
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,719
Speaker 1: does it put more edge on it?

498
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does and I think that drives us as

499
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: well now to want to have some silver were for

500
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: our success. We've known for a very long time how

501
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: good we are as a team, but yeah, it's now

502
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: that Australia has noticed it as well. And that is

503
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: off the back of the World Cup and to have

504
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 2: that opportunity here and be a part of that is incredible.

505
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 2: And like you said, to have you know, grown men

506
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: that love rugby league watching us stop and watching the

507
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 2: footy to watch our game. And I know at the

508
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 2: AFL they had it on the big screens and you

509
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 2: know we've seen the live sites and then moving the

510
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: news to broadcast our game. Like it's just stuff that's

511
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 2: unheard of. And yeah, if you would have asked me

512
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 2: three years ago, I would be I would have been like,

513
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: you're making it up. That's never going to happen. So

514
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: that is insane. It's I don't think it would really

515
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 2: fully sink in probably until we retire and really look

516
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: back on our career and see how big that moment was.

517
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 1: You're you're you're right. It has only happened in the

518
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: last couple of years. Why, I mean, what's what is

519
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: it about the madfielders? What's changed?

520
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: Nothing has changed. I think it was just to have

521
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,239
Speaker 2: the opportunity here in Australia. I mean those tournaments are

522
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 2: normally you know, say Rio where Germany, like the hours

523
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: of the games are at two am, three am when

524
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: they're over there, and you know, you don't capture as much.

525
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 2: People just watch the highlights the next day, but to

526
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,719
Speaker 2: have it here, to have it in front of everyone,

527
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 2: not only US, I know the other games as well

528
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: felt like home games for some nations as well, And

529
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 2: that's just Australia being so multicultural. Everyone got around it

530
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 2: and it is just such an amazing tournament and I think,

531
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 2: you know, for then us to be successful along the way,

532
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: you couldn't not watch.

533
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: So a lot of the girls in your team, your colleagues,

534
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: they play in other in club football like you do

535
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: at Arsenal, and you get to see all the other

536
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 1: players from around the world who make up these various teams.

537
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: In the UK, for example, how good are we?

538
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're good, I think.

539
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: Man for men though, yeah, are we really rate? Because

540
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: only someone like you would know you're amongst it every week?

541
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 2: So I'd say our down four in past years was

542
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: having depth in the squad we.

543
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: Had in terms of injury, you mean, no just.

544
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,239
Speaker 2: Players to pick from, right, I would say we had

545
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 2: a good starting eleven, two or three subs and then

546
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: no offense. But people weren't ready and that's you know,

547
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: not playing in higher competitions and stuff like that, and

548
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: that's what.

549
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 3: We struggled with.

550
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: We go really well through the group stage, and then

551
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: when it got to the important game, we're all exhausted.

552
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: We couldn't have a rest against say a weaker opponent,

553
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: because it wasn't an easy game for us. We had

554
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: to play our strongest team every game to win. And

555
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: now we can rotate players. We have the depth to

556
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: you know, after sixty minutes, take people off, rest them

557
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 2: for the next game because the job's done. That's just

558
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: not how it was before. And I think that's the

559
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: biggest change for us. For you know, the Matilda's to

560
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 2: have a good squad. You can play anyone and we'll

561
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: still be strong.

562
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: How many I think it's twenty four?

563
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: Is that?

564
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: How many do they change the Olympic?

565
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 2: The Olympics is even smaller, so it's eighteen. So that's

566
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: only sixteen outfield players and two goalkeepers and we'll play

567
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 2: every second day, so it's going to be even harder schedule.

568
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 2: The competition's over within two weeks.

569
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: And if somebody gets injured in that in that squad,

570
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: can you has to go back home? For example, We

571
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: don't make it silly. Example, does a permanent injury for

572
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: the whole series. Are you allowed to bring someone back

573
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: in from Australia or you.

574
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: Will have four players that are alternates that come along.

575
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 2: One will be a goalkeeper, three outfield players. They'll stay

576
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 2: with us throughout the whole tournament. But the last moment

577
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: you can make a change is twenty four hours before

578
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: the first game. After that, that's your squad.

579
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: You must play it, they must play.

580
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 2: If you know, you lose a player to injury, then

581
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: we're one player less.

582
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: Wow.

583
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, very intense.

584
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: That is intense. And so going back to my question before,

585
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: like you know all the girls on your side, You

586
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: know the girls and you probably know a lot of

587
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: the girls on the other sides because they probably either

588
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: play in your teams or against you play against them.

589
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: Would you do I mean you're going to say yes,

590
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: yes hopefully. But do you rank us as man for

591
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: woman for woman as good as anybody else in the world.

592
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: I do, Yeah, I do.

593
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: I think skill wise, skill wise yeah, I mean every

594
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: team has you know, great players as well, but I

595
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: think our team, on everyone's best day, we can be

596
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: anyone as individuals and a team.

597
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: But that's where you know, to.

598
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: Be the best, you have to be at that And

599
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: when I said before about building up and getting ready

600
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: for this moment, that's where you know, you have to

601
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: trust your teammates because we're away from each other now,

602
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: You've got to trust that they're doing the work we

603
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: need to do to be ready for that moment. It's

604
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: it's easier July first, when we all come together and

605
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: we're all training together. Of course everyone's doing it then,

606
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: but you need to trust that you know everyone's doing

607
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 2: what they need to before to you know, make it

608
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: through that tournament because when it gets to the deeper

609
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: pointy end of the tournament, that's when it's the hardest point.

610
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: So you have to be at your fitness to be

611
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: strongest to even get there.

612
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: So remind me, when does the Olympic stays at August

613
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: the first?

614
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: So where the day our first game is? The day

615
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: before the opening ceremony. So I think we are the

616
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: twenty fourth of July.

617
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: Towards the end of July, and what do you do

618
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: between that date? And obviously you get to travel over there,

619
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: but I'm just not not literally, but like what do

620
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: you what are your commitments between say now and then?

621
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: So here we are in June, it's only like, you know,

622
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: six weeks, is it just training you know with its

623
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: squad or training on your own or not you're going

624
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: to injury to get over obviously some rehabit. What is

625
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: the what does the sort of schedule look like for

626
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: all of you?

627
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be a bit individualized. I mean myself,

628
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: it kind of look like I'll have two weeks completely

629
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: off and then it would just be slowly building back up,

630
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: like just getting moving. If it's to go for like

631
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: a five kgj old. I haven't actually got my schedule yet.

632
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: We need to do that when I'm in these days off,

633
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: so I'll have a conversation without S and C. He'll

634
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: send me my plan and there'll just be you know,

635
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: gym sessions to tick off, runs to tick off and

636
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: on what days to align with what we're going to

637
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: do when we get the camp and just be a

638
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: little bit ready for that to get into the football stuff.

639
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: But as a football, regardless how much running you do,

640
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: the fitness when you play is different. You can be fit,

641
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: but it's going to be that train and when we're

642
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: in that's really going to get us ready for the tournament.

643
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: And yeah, a few girls are still in season. The

644
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: girls in Spain, the girls in America, so they're still

645
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: playing all the way up.

646
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: They played right up towards the Olympic Perigo.

647
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they won't meet us in camp until July

648
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: eighth is when the international window starts, so we'll be

649
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: in a week before they come and join us.

650
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: So there's like three weeks for most of you, in

651
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: about two weeks for them who's still playing. So it's

652
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: really only like as a team, it's a two to

653
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,479
Speaker 1: three week prep. Wow. So and I just know if

654
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: a fighter is and find there's usually a twelve week

655
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: prep to get ready for the fire, like fitness, spirring,

656
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So I guess the assumptions that you

657
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: guys are playing not in your case so much. But

658
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: everyone's been playing football up until that period anyway, so

659
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: at least their skill bas is sort of you know,

660
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: in tune, and their fitness should be in tune. But

661
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: as a team, you're a team sport, you know, just

662
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: getting everybody to sort of sing off the same song

663
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: she'd and sort of get used to being together again.

664
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: How hard is it to recreate that?

665
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's one of the beauties of our

666
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: team as well, we have all the squad we have

667
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: now besides a few of the younger ones that have

668
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: come in. We've been together since we were twelve, thirteen, fourteen,

669
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: so you know, we know how each other play, and

670
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: I think that's what makes it easier to come together

671
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: and just get going quite quickly because we've played so

672
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: many years together. But it's it will be easier for me,

673
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: I think, to go in. But I find it hard

674
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: when say I'm Arsenal. We have a different style of play,

675
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: we have different values and different you know things that

676
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: we follow. To then come into national team to just

677
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: have to normally switch within a couple of days because

678
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: we'll have a game in a few days, it's quite hard.

679
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: So I think the girls coming from their season, they'll

680
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: have less time to adjust and it will be harder

681
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 2: to you know, will be a week prepped before they

682
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: come in and they will have to catch up. So

683
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: I think that's that's kind of harder for them than

684
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: it will be for us.

685
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: Will otherly big squads have the same issue though, or

686
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: is it is that special to us?

687
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 3: No, everyone's the same, So we're playing somewhere else.

688
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think, And there's only two

689
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,239
Speaker 2: teams from each like two from Asia too, from Europe too,

690
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: from Africa, so it will vary how their leagues are

691
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: and where their players are playing. But the way the

692
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: game is now, there's girls all around the world playing,

693
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: so every team I think will be in the same

694
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: situation as US, at least with a couple of players.

695
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: And your coach, Tony is his style looks to me

696
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: when I was watching last year, it looks to me

697
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 1: it looks defensive at the beginning, like quite a defensive

698
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: style of footy football. Am I correct in saying that?

699
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: Is that the style of play that the Matilda's play?

700
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: Defensive footy?

701
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

702
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 3: There's I mean Tony's very tactical and.

703
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: What does that mean though he's.

704
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 2: Very smart with how he wants to I guess manipulate

705
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: a team to work in.

706
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: Our favor, manipulate the opposition for yourself.

707
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: So when you say we look very defensive, we probably

708
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 2: do because if you look at our team, our strengths

709
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 2: are our forward line, our speeds. So to create space

710
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 2: you want to drop, to create that space in behind

711
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: and make the teams come to us. The moment they

712
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: lose the ball, we're gone. So it's like, yeah, I mean,

713
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: it depends on the opponent and what type of players,

714
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: but it's he's worked his coaching style around getting the

715
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 2: best out of us individual and bringing our strengths out

716
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: and then pulling it together as a team. And that

717
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: was the one thing I think he got us on

718
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: board when he came in. He's like, We're going to

719
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 2: build this to your strength. I'm not going to give

720
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 2: you a style player that I want you to fit into.

721
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: I'm fitting into you girls.

722
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: That's interesting because many years ago I used to go

723
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: to the I went to four World Cup finals many

724
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: years ago, Rome, France, et cetera. And I was at Mexico,

725
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 1: Mexico City World Cup Final nine eighty six, and it's

726
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: amazing the different styles of all the teams. I was

727
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: in Berlin and I'm member the Italian side playing against us,

728
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: actually we're really flamboyant, fulls, not aggressive, but attacking all

729
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: the time, just trying to score goals all the time,

730
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: you know. And then I watched the German side and

731
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: they were sort of they sit back, they're sort of

732
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: setting you up all the time. They look like that

733
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: what I call defensive to the extent that I understand

734
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: the game when you come from say someone like Arsenal

735
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: and you go then into the Australian side Matilda's, is

736
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: it a big effort to switch because you know, if

737
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: there's different styles of playing in the team from Arsenal

738
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: say to the Matildas, is that a big switch for you?

739
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a bit. I think we do play

740
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: a very different game. Arsenal traditionally is a football team

741
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 2: possession based, you know, kind of I guess starve teams

742
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 2: of the ball. We have, you know, most possession every

743
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 2: opponent we play, I think on the national level. To

744
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 2: be fair, I think Arsenal's more like say Spain, Spain

745
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: or Japan. They are very tidy on the ball, keep

746
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: the ball. We as a national team, I wouldn't say

747
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: we have all those type of players. So the soul

748
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: is different. And yeah, I think individually, if you bring

749
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: out the best of everyone, that's not you're not going

750
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 2: to put a style to a team and be like

751
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 2: you have to follow this if those players don't fit.

752
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: So I think that's why we work well as a

753
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 2: national team the way we're playing now, and I mean

754
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: the results have showed that as well.

755
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: And I mean I'm sure you're not a better. But

756
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: who's the favorite for the Olympics.

757
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 3: I mean it's got to be Spain.

758
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: They won the Why why they.

759
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 3: Won the World Cup.

760
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 2: They haven't lost many games, They've beaten top rank sides.

761
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: They all pretty much play for Barcelona. Barcelona just won

762
00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: the Champions League. The style of player they're playing, it's working.

763
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 1: And the bidding for a long time.

764
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: Together they have.

765
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean to play club and country together. It's

766
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 2: it must be nice to be able to, you know,

767
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: just have that same style of play all the way through.

768
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: You play with these players every day. So the connections

769
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 2: they would have is probably what we've built over years.

770
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: They do in you know, weeks almost.

771
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: So if you were to if you were to have

772
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: your own way in the world and you wanted to win,

773
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: you said silverware, I'm looking for gold where exactly if

774
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: you were to have your own way and you and

775
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: you were able to cast a spell over everything and said, look,

776
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: this is the way I'd like our team to be

777
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: prepared prepared. Is that that Spanish Barcelona connection. Is that

778
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: the way you would like to see us play and

779
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: prepare as an Australian team. In other words, we Australia

780
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: play or Sydney or whatever it is. The capital of

781
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: Spain is Barcelona whatever it is this Madrid actually, I think,

782
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter. Barcelona is one of the big

783
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: cities and there's a team called bus so the way

784
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: they play in their league and then they just transport

785
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: that straight into the Spanish side. Would you like to

786
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: have that in Australia? In our environment you didn't have

787
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: to travel, it was all done here in your team.

788
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 2: I mean, if we had, you know, the league here

789
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 2: and the players here in a professional season, I think

790
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: the league here could become that. I mean after the

791
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 2: World Cup, all the players around the world have been

792
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 2: to Australia and I think one of the selling points

793
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: is just our country in general. Who wouldn't want to

794
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: live here the lifestyle that we have and for us

795
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: as well, that's what we miss the most when we

796
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: come back and how nice that would be to be

797
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: able to have that. And I mean the hopes are

798
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: that we do have that one day, and I mean

799
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 2: why could we not have one of the best leagues

800
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 2: in the world with you know, the World Cup showcase

801
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: that So I think if the game can go there here,

802
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 2: then yeah, I can't see why we couldn't have that.

803
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: Why do you think it is Australia relatively speaking sport country.

804
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: Why is it we seem to outperform in our sport

805
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: relative to the rest of the world, compared to say,

806
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: the number of people that have in their country. Like

807
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: you know, we have performed boxing, we out performance swimming,

808
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 1: we out perform now and women's soccer. We perform obviously

809
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: in rugby union, rugby league relative to our size. Probably

810
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: the only thing we don't have perform in is track

811
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: and field, but just about every other sport we do.

812
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: Why do you think that is?

813
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

814
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 2: I think it probably comes back to our roots as well.

815
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: Like everyone's had to, you know, find a way here

816
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: in Australia to start something, to prove something down the

817
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 2: line of their family. And I think it's just been

818
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 2: within the blood in the country. And when it comes

819
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: to sport, we are very passionate. You know, you grow

820
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 2: up watching sport, play in sport and at some point

821
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 2: everyone has and I think that's just yeah, we're in

822
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: the blood of us too. We love us boughtant team.

823
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: We love a winning team. You want to be a

824
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 2: part of a winning team. Yeah, I think it's just

825
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: we're born with that drive.

826
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: We we send to compete globally well above our weight

827
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: division well and we But I think there's something genetic

828
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: in australiabe it's our multiculturalism as well. I mean, I

829
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: was just thinking about your surname. Your sname is not

830
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: foid Id, So is that like has Dutch roots or

831
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: something like that.

832
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 3: I don't know.

833
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: I thing sounds like it.

834
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 3: People have said that before.

835
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: I don't know that there must be somewhere along along

836
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: the line. But as far as I know back everyone's

837
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: from here in Australia. So yeah, I don't know, but

838
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: I guess it's got.

839
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: To be because like when you go to I mean,

840
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: perhaps this is the same now in the UK and

841
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: other places I don't know, but and perhaps also a

842
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: place like and Barcelona. But I would have thought that

843
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: those environments are much more localized. Most of the people

844
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: are from that low's environments. Would that be the case. Well,

845
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: we've other clubs around the world as opposed to in Australia,

846
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: so we're very multicultural. But a lot of other places

847
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: are just mostly Spanish or just mostly South American or

848
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: Brazilian or mostly English or Irish or whatever they are

849
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: is what is it like in those clubs around the world.

850
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't know.

851
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: I haven't I haven't been to like say the Spains

852
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: or French leagues or anything like that. But you can see,

853
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: I mean here from the girls that they're there as well,

854
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: like when they're there, it's a very Spanish way, it's

855
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: a very French way, it's a very German way. How

856
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: they do things in their country. It's that way and

857
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: that's it. And I think that's you know, the road

858
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,479
Speaker 2: that they have. And you know, as an international player,

859
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: comedy and you've got to adjust to them. They won't

860
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 2: adjust to you. And that's just how is there where

861
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: I think here we we open up and adjust to

862
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: almost everyone and make them feel welcome and stuff like that.

863
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 2: It's not always the case in those those countries. And

864
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 2: I mean, but for them, football's in their roots. They

865
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: you know, it's just the game. They're in Europe that is,

866
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 2: you know, the world game. So for them, they're very

867
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: passionate about it. They you know, they would die for

868
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: their clubs. And it's the same in England. It's everyone

869
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: has a team, everyone supports a team you've grown up

870
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: with that it's in the family and you know you

871
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: feel that, well, I feel that playing for Arsenal now

872
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: as well with the club. You know, people would die

873
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 2: for the club, that's how much they love it. And

874
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: you know when you go out there and play, you

875
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 2: can feel that you're not just playing for you, You're

876
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 2: playing for the club. You're playing for the fans. It's

877
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 2: one big club and that's just how the game is there.

878
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: How did you feel did you go out too to

879
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: the game? Did you say that they all say no

880
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: overtell where they stay at your team, the Matilda's. Did

881
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: you go and stay with the Matilda's on the weekend? Yeah,

882
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: before the Orange when the Origin Boys was also there. Yeah,

883
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: so you didn't play with you you stayed there, you

884
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: hang out with them and then the Pack Stadium and

885
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: the Pack Stadium was not dissimilar to the Pack Stadium

886
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: for the State of Origin. Does it feel like to

887
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: I think it's crazy all of a sudden, we're on

888
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: the same sort of level as you said last versus

889
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 1: the Queensland in terms of audience.

890
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's funny you say that because the boys

891
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: were staying where we were and they came to the

892
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: game to feel the atmosphere of what their game was

893
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: going to bed yeah, and that, yeah, I mean that

894
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 2: was even like crazy still to hear for them to

895
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: you know, they're come and watch women footballers the Matildas

896
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: to get a feel for the origin and yeah that

897
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 2: I don't think that's probably ever been done before. So yeah,

898
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: it's crazy, crazy to think. I mean I was sat

899
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: there watching both games, I guess, and the atmosphere is

900
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: a bit different, I think, you know, with the environment

901
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: of what kind of people were there and what you know,

902
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: people come to the games foot is a bit different

903
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: as men on the piss, you know, really getting into

904
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 2: it all fired up. And I would say our environments

905
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: are more family based, and I mean it's opened up

906
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: now to more, but you know people aren't going there

907
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: to really get on it and you know, enjoy it

908
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: that way. So I think the atmosphere is a little

909
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 2: bit different in that sense. But then when I flip

910
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 2: it to when I'm in England and the atmosphere there's

911
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: that's a whole other level again with you know, those

912
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: fans that football crowd, the chance, the songs, the singing

913
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: throughout the whole game. Yeah, you just have to be

914
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: there to experience it.

915
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. So when you're when the first time you played

916
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: for Arsenal and you experience it, what did you think

917
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: to yourself? My god, like, what's going on? Especially the songs?

918
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just like, this is incredible. Every single

919
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: player in our team has a song that the fans know,

920
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: and if you do something good on the ball, something happens,

921
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: a big tackle, whatever, and they're all singing that, Like

922
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: it's just a really cool moment to experience. And now

923
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: it's just you know, the norm almost that I've been

924
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: to the men's games and that's what happened, and then

925
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: now that's happened in that our games as well. Let's

926
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 2: you know, really see that the games are coming together.

927
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: So what you're thirty, You're going to the Olympics in

928
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks time. What's the future look like

929
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: for you after that? So? How does it work? Because

930
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what's a life life time of a female?

931
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: Call your footy star because you are footy star? Look like?

932
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: Is there a period after which women do not play

933
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: usually retire? What does that look like?

934
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard, it's hard to say, I think it

935
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: just depends on your body. I'd say the average age

936
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 2: that players played to is maybe thirty four thirty five,

937
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: but it.

938
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: Has increased recently. US.

939
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: For example, we's she's not in the squad because she's injured,

940
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: but with a girl called Ivy Lewis, she's thirty eight

941
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: and she's still playing and she's probably one of the

942
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 2: fittest people in our team. So I think it just

943
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 2: depends on your body. I mean, I've I don't know

944
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 2: how long I'll play for. I mean I've been in

945
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: the national team setup and since i was sixteen, so

946
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: I think I started probably earlier than I should have,

947
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: So I don't know if that means I'll go as

948
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: long or not.

949
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: But we have more than half a life.

950
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean I have two more years on

951
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: my contract at Arsenal. I feel in the best form

952
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: and that I have my whole career, so.

953
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will.

954
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: Play as long as I feel my body can can

955
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 2: take it.

956
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: Because that's what I wanted to ask you, like, how

957
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: at what point or how important is it for you

958
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: now to look at this is not something I've always

959
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: wanted to do, but this is now a career. This

960
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: is where I'm in my money, and this is what

961
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to know. At some stage I'm going to retire,

962
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: and I've got to get myself set for the future.

963
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: How important is it for you to go about this

964
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: like in a business like manner, like actually treat this

965
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: is your business.

966
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think that is kind of been the

967
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: most important thing for a lot of us off the

968
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 2: back of this success. Is it's not even just the

969
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: stuff we do on the field now, it's you know,

970
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: the commercial opportunities and sponsorship deals and those are you know,

971
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 2: more than what probably a football contract is, so and

972
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 2: we never had that before. So I think that's maybe

973
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: what makes it difficult for players as well, now that

974
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: probably we're close to retiring. You know, now all the

975
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: rewards are coming in, so it's hard probably to want

976
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 2: to leave the game with you know, where our contracts

977
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: have gone with the national team, with the equal pay

978
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. It's it's like I've done all

979
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: these years and now and now we're here and you know,

980
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: I'm not an anywhere, so I think, yeah, it's that's

981
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: oh my.

982
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 1: God, I don't want to retire and I've been going

983
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: through the hard yards they're all going to come and

984
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: take control of the sponsorships because a lot of that

985
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 1: stuff would be new to you. You know, like you're

986
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: now not just a great sports star, but you now

987
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: have to become a business person. How do you deal

988
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: with that? Do you you get advice? Do you seek management?

989
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: How does that all work?

990
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? I know if we do have management, I mean

991
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: I think everyone has to have it now. I mean,

992
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: as we've seen the demand as well. And one of

993
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 2: the biggest changes is like you don't really feel that

994
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 2: you can go anywhere without being noticed, and that's just

995
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: having more eyes on the game and the Matilda's as well.

996
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 2: And this is a success we want and this is

997
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: what we've always wanted, and now it's just having you know,

998
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: the support that we need to to help continue through that.

999
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: And I think one of the biggest things for me,

1000
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 2: which I've found hard is at the games, it's very

1001
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 2: overwhelming at the end with you know, it's not just

1002
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: kids screaming, it's kind of like people in their twenties

1003
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. It is really overwhelming, and people

1004
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: almost expect you to just be available because we always

1005
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: were before and it's not like that anymore. And yeah,

1006
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 2: it's I think that's what I've found hardest with what

1007
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 2: the change has happened.

1008
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: In terms of being available. Do you mean like for

1009
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: media interviews or for just somebody standing there photograph or

1010
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 1: a chat.

1011
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just I think before, like there weren't as

1012
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 2: many people, there weren't as many fans, so you almost

1013
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 2: probably could get around to almost everyone. It's impossible now,

1014
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 2: and you know, to leave and to feel like, you know,

1015
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: you're disappointing people almost because that's how crazy it is

1016
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: when people are screaming at you and throwing stuff at you,

1017
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: and like, yeah, it's you want to get around to

1018
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: almost all the little kids because you know they're the

1019
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: ones that are going to dream to be that. I

1020
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 2: mean not to say the old ones are as well,

1021
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: but it's just like it's just really hard I feel

1022
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 2: like to manage. And I think from a media point

1023
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 2: of view as well, it's everyone used to have access

1024
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: to us now and they probably still think they do,

1025
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: and if they don't, they're like.

1026
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 3: Well why not.

1027
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: And that's that's an important point because media to some

1028
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: extent can control your reputation. How important is it or

1029
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: how hard has it been to become that person, because

1030
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: it's a different side of Caitlin that you have to

1031
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: sort of prepare for the media. You don't want your

1032
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: whole private world to just to appear somewhere on the

1033
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: front pages, because you've got to keep something to yourself.

1034
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: But at the same time, if you're not prepared to

1035
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,959
Speaker 1: talk or open up, the media sort of can close

1036
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: in on you're pretty hard. They actually go hunting for things.

1037
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: How do you deal with that? Let do you how

1038
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: do you feel about that?

1039
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 2: I think that is that's probably the I would say

1040
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 2: the worst thing that comes with it is you don't

1041
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: really have a personal life with social media and stuff

1042
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 2: like that. Now everyone's everyone's got a phone. They don't

1043
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: miss a moment on the pitch or you know, so

1044
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: if you were to do you know, one thing or

1045
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: I don't mean, who's to say that someone's not in

1046
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 2: a bad mood or something's happened and you know they're

1047
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 2: just not feeling it that day, and something out of

1048
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 2: character happens, like like you said, the media can take

1049
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 2: that and run with it. And I think that is

1050
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: the hardest thing when it comes to you know, the

1051
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: popularity of the matildas and you know, being in the

1052
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: spotlight almost that these are the things that do come

1053
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: with it now, and you know you do have to

1054
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: watch what you do and what you say. And yeah,

1055
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just one step wrong. And you

1056
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 2: know that's that's the headlines, like you said.

1057
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 1: Because that can become your business case for a sponsor,

1058
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: like and or it can become the reason why your

1059
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: sponsor doesn't want to sponsor you anymore. And it's it's

1060
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: sort of put some more pressure on you. You would

1061
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: have got pressure on you to play well for your team,

1062
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: for yourself, there's also more pressure on you to act

1063
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: a certain way particularly is not natural. I mean, the

1064
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: boys seem to get away with it because I don't know,

1065
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 1: sort of semi expected, Yeah, sort of like it shouldn't

1066
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: be but it is sort of expected. But then the girls,

1067
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I think there's a sense that it's not expected.

1068
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: I don't know why that's the case. It's a bit

1069
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me. But anyway, because my understanding,

1070
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: women are just as gray as the boys. Boys and

1071
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: girls smarter definitely, right, smarter, but yeah, correct, we go

1072
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: about things more cleverly. But also you have each other's back.

1073
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: You're better at having each other's back. Boys don't even

1074
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: think about each other. They're just doing stupid shit. Is

1075
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: that a because you know, if you do one wrong

1076
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: thing or say one wrong thing, and what someone else

1077
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: assumes is wrong, you know it might not be wrong

1078
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: for you, but makes a judge them on it. It

1079
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: can affect your financial career basically for the next couple

1080
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: of years, and also maybe a renewal with a club

1081
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 1: and a renewal with a sponsor, and if you want

1082
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: to get to thirty five, because it's a short period

1083
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: and particularly more short for you because you've come into

1084
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: this environment later in your career. In other words, the

1085
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: envirnan's become very lucrative later in your career. Competter to say,

1086
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: when you're twenty year old's coming in today, you're going

1087
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: to have a much better run, longer run. Do you

1088
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 1: think about that stuff like, you know, I just got

1089
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 1: to be careful. I've got to do this, and I've

1090
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: got to do that, and I shouldn't be there and

1091
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 1: I shouldn't go that, you know, I shouldn't be seen

1092
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: with a glass of you know, bourbon and coke in

1093
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: my head. If that's what your favorite drink is I

1094
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. Don't you drink? But do

1095
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: you think they're those think about those constraints a little bit.

1096
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 3: I think.

1097
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 2: I mean, at the same time, you do want to

1098
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 2: live your life, and you know, if things don't align

1099
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 2: with certain sponsorships and stuff like that, I feel like,

1100
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 2: well that that wasn't a deal for me anyways, you

1101
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

1102
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 3: So, and I don't know.

1103
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of in a way, Australian culture

1104
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: is a bit laid back, like they would expect you

1105
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 2: to have a drink, they would expect you to enjoy yourself,

1106
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: where I think we're lucky with that side of things.

1107
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 2: A lot of other countries don't seem as laid back

1108
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: and they wouldn't probably get away with something like that

1109
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 2: or it be normal. So I think our culture is

1110
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 2: a much more relaxed. But then there are certain things

1111
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 2: that you've said before. The media do look for things.

1112
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: They love a headline and they love a star to

1113
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: be in the headline, so you definitely do have to

1114
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 2: watch out for those things. But at the same time,

1115
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 2: I'm going to live my life the way and my

1116
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 2: values and I think they're okay. So if that was

1117
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: to turn another way, then that would be that. Yeah,

1118
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: but I don't I don't think it will. I think

1119
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 2: I'll be all right.

1120
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: Yes, And I just one final thing I'd like to

1121
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: ask you is little kids, little girls and boys, they

1122
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: all love the Matildas. Like I don't want to read this,

1123
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: but seriously, they love the Matilda's just like I don't know,

1124
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: It's like it's like a movie or something for them,

1125
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: especially what happened last year, and that's going to continue

1126
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: on selling out crowds. I mean, as you said this,

1127
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: little kids are probably your biggest fans, either individually or

1128
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: as a team. Do you think that that's going to

1129
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: encourage young women, young girls to start to play female

1130
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: soccer in this country.

1131
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it already has from what we've seen

1132
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 2: with the numbers of you know, participation at the numbers

1133
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 2: of skyrocketed. And I think it's exciting for women's football.

1134
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 2: I mean, to have more players playing, more girls to

1135
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: choose from. It's only going to benefit the national team

1136
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 2: in the long run to have more talent coming through

1137
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 2: to get those girls. I guess that probably would have

1138
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 2: been missed if they didn't have a role model and

1139
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: a vision in front of them to look up to.

1140
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: And I think that's probably going to be one of

1141
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: the biggest things that we'll all be proud of once

1142
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: we do retire, to know that impact that we have

1143
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 2: had on the game here in Australia. And it's not

1144
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 2: just girls as boys as well. You have little boys

1145
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 2: having Matilda's jerseys. And I hear a lot of parents

1146
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: that come up to us and they say, you've inspired

1147
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 2: my son, You've inspired my daughter. And you know when

1148
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 2: they speak about their son they get quite emotional because

1149
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: you know, for a female, a mother, to have your

1150
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 2: son look up to a to a woman is unheard of.

1151
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 2: So that change is, yes, something special.

1152
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: And how did you feel You're still with You're still

1153
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: full of Manly seagulls.

1154
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: I do not as not as much. It's hard to

1155
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 2: keep track of over in the UK, but.

1156
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you feel about you? He even's sort

1157
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,919
Speaker 1: of taking it to us in New South Wales side

1158
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: last night. You know, he's your captain at Manly, he's

1159
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: also captain of Queensland, but he's sort of to my

1160
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: to my money for my owney. He was probably the

1161
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: best player in the field. He just tore us apart.

1162
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: You still love the footing.

1163
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I do, and I mean it's New South

1164
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 2: walest Queensland, New South Wales through and through. But I

1165
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 2: think it's natural for everyone to have a soft spot

1166
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 2: for someone from their team on the opposition as well.

1167
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: I can't do it when he's playing for Queensland, or

1168
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: like Lindsay Collins who placed with my side, when he

1169
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: plays with queens and I don't like him.

1170
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: You don't like you. Or if he's doing it for

1171
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 2: me there as well, then that's all right. If he

1172
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 2: just does it for Queensland, not manly, then then there's

1173
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: a problem.

1174
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: It's funny, you know. In the state of Origins, some

1175
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: players have a habit of playing not so great during

1176
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: the season for the club and as soon as they

1177
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: put them arown jersey on, particularly queens they have a

1178
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: they tear the house down, like it's unbelievable.

1179
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 3: That rivalry.

1180
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: It's just within you, the competitive sort of environment that

1181
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: the state of origin sets up. What is who is

1182
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: some sports star that has always inspired you?

1183
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I grew up watching rugby ley I wouldn't say

1184
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: I had a player that inspired me in that sense,

1185
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: but I also enjoyed surfing growing up as well, when

1186
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,959
Speaker 2: Lane Beachley was a female figure that you know, a legend.

1187
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 3: Still still is.

1188
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think in a way maybe her, But I

1189
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 2: mean the moment with Kafi three Freeman as well at

1190
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 2: the Olympics. That moment was so special and so powerful

1191
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 2: and inspiring for females. So that's that's one that I

1192
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: think a collective as the Matilda's, I mean, the ones

1193
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 2: old enough relate back to that moment a lot. And

1194
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen before the World Cup

1195
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 2: she came in and spoke to us, and I've never

1196
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: seen the team so amazed by one person and to

1197
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 2: speak to her and to have a bit of insight

1198
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 2: from her, you know, on that moment at the Olympics,

1199
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: and to speak to us heading into a World Cup

1200
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 2: on home, so similar kind of approach. I think it

1201
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 2: settled a lot of nerves for the girls as well,

1202
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: just to hear how even still to this day she

1203
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: that moment doesn't feel real for her. And it's almost

1204
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 2: like what I was saying with the penalty shootout as well,

1205
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 2: when she went into that race, she didn't feel the pressure,

1206
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 2: she didn't hear any of the outside noise, she didn't

1207
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 2: know everyone was watching almost like us as well. It

1208
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 2: is when you're in the zone and you have that

1209
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 2: focus and that goal that nothing else matters. You do

1210
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 2: whatever it taste to get there. And maybe hearing that

1211
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 2: from her as well helped us all throughout that campaign

1212
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 2: and it will move them forward into Olympics as well.

1213
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: It's amazing how something like that can inspire. It inspires me.

1214
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: I was out there when you're in the race, and

1215
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: I was at the at the stadium and watching her

1216
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: come down the street and with her outfit on like

1217
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: it was just so iconic and for her then to

1218
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: go and talk to you guys, But you don't realize

1219
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: as some stage you'll be talking to somebody else. You're

1220
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: you're the new iconic team, You're the Kathy Freeman. But

1221
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: in a team sense, the Mathildas is that and materials

1222
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: are going for a long long time forever. But the

1223
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: current machielders, the one who got us to where we

1224
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: are now, is so iconic that you now have the

1225
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: baton to pass on. Do you understand or do you

1226
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: feel a sort of level responsibility of paying forward with

1227
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: someone like Kathy Freeman gave you and what the materials

1228
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: are now giving to everyone else in Australia.

1229
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I guess.

1230
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 2: I mean, even like when we were speaking to her, like,

1231
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 2: you know, it's the same you've said to me how

1232
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: amazing the World Cup was and how amazing it is

1233
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 2: what we've were doing for everyone here in Australia. But

1234
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 2: at the same time, I relate to Kathy what she

1235
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 2: said to us, and when she said this, we were

1236
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 2: all kind of taken back. But after that race, she

1237
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 2: was disappointed because she didn't run the time she wanted

1238
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 2: to run, and you could hear when she was saying it,

1239
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,479
Speaker 2: she was still so annoyed about it that she didn't

1240
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,479
Speaker 2: hit you know, that time she wanted to get And

1241
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 2: that's a regret that she has from the race when

1242
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: it was so amazing. You won, You won gold and

1243
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: that's it. And I mean, for me, looking back on

1244
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: the World Cup, I'm so disappointed that we were so

1245
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 2: close to meddling, we missed out on the final, we

1246
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 2: lost the bronze medal match like that opportunity will never

1247
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 2: come around again, and what's happened is bigger than that.

1248
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 2: But for me and for us, we'll never get that

1249
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 2: moment back again. And you know, it is disappointing for

1250
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 2: how we ended up on such an amazing tournament.

1251
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: Does that inspire you for the next event, which is

1252
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: going to be the Olympics? Does that do you guys

1253
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: as a team, Well, you know what we didn't achieve

1254
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: in July last year, We're going to make sure we

1255
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 1: get this time round. Yeah.

1256
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 2: I think that is the sense, the general sense. I

1257
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 2: think it hasn't been spoken about yet, but I think

1258
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 2: it's in the back of everyone's mind because it wasn't

1259
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 2: just the World Cup, it was the Olympics before the

1260
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 2: same thing happened. We finished fourth, we had an opportunity

1261
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 2: to get into the gold medal match, lost, bronze medal match, lost,

1262
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 2: and that's happened twice now, So I think, yeah, it's there,

1263
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 2: it's withinside and I think it will be a topic

1264
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 2: of conversation close to the Games.

1265
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: Well, congratulations on your selection, which was a no brainer.

1266
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're going to do Australia proud, or the

1267
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: whole team's going to do Australia proud. But I think

1268
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 1: what I want to say to you is what I

1269
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: find amazing is he's a a young woman who was

1270
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: a young girl, who is a competitive sports person on

1271
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: the South coast of Australia now is playing at a

1272
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: club like Arsenal now is representing US again in the

1273
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: Matildas at the Olympics. Sort of the journey must be

1274
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: as an observer, it must be like you must pinch

1275
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: yourself just to think. It's like something like a book

1276
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: or a movie or something along those lines that you

1277
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: would never have expected as a little kid growing up

1278
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: and coming from where you came from and fine an

1279
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: amazing story and for and I hear you are sitting

1280
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: in front of me now on my show and you

1281
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: just like I mean you guys, like gods, you are

1282
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: on a world scale. You're sitting here just like a

1283
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: normal person, which gives a lot of motivation and inspiration

1284
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: and hoped lots of people out there, Wow I'm like her. Yeah,

1285
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: I could be maybe one day like her. And I

1286
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: want to thank you for that. Thank you for being

1287
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: that type of person and coming in today and talking

1288
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: to me about honestly about who you are. Appreciate it.

1289
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1290
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 2: No, I mean to have the opportunity to sit here

1291
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 2: and even I guess share my story because just why

1292
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: you're going through that, Like if you would have asked

1293
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 2: me when I was in school having to sell chocolates

1294
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 2: to make money to go play football, to represent New

1295
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 2: South Wales or whatever it was, I wouldn't think I

1296
01:04:58,200 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 2: would be where I am today and what I've done,

1297
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 2: and you know I have to do that. I used

1298
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 2: to hate it. I used to not want to do it.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was embarrassing. And I think to just

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Speaker 2: you know, show people that you know, there's different ways

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Speaker 2: to get to places and everyone's journey is different. It

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Speaker 2: might come earlier later, and it's just about you know,

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Speaker 2: sticking with it and I guess believing in yourself to

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Speaker 2: be able to get there.

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Speaker 3: And I guess that's what I did.

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Speaker 1: Callum Ford, we appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much