WEBVTT - Round 2 Takeaways

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<v Speaker 1>I said at the starting year, I taught Adam Field

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<v Speaker 1>Blake will be by the season and I'll stand.

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<v Speaker 2>By it, but I'll tee it to Rell May. He

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<v Speaker 2>started the season.

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<v Speaker 1>His performance yesterday and seventy three minutes and the quality

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<v Speaker 1>of his work.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been the most dominant forward in the park for

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<v Speaker 3>both the Tigers performances and great yesterday. But that first

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<v Speaker 3>half yesterday made it was. It was uninspiring from both teams,

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<v Speaker 3>like it was there for the taking and all one

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<v Speaker 3>team had to do after about twenty minutes was complete.

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<v Speaker 3>The next five sets, they would have scored one or

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<v Speaker 3>two tries. I thought the Tigers obviously got their game together,

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<v Speaker 3>defended pretty well for the majority of the game. But

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<v Speaker 3>the reason why they got to think it was sixteen

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<v Speaker 3>l at halftime is with fatigue and both teams not

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<v Speaker 3>playing well, anyone with footwork that had energy that went

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<v Speaker 3>to the contest and did.

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<v Speaker 4>Something fast came up with a play.

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<v Speaker 3>Luckie Galvin came up with one, and Durine Buller on

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<v Speaker 3>that kick return all of a sudden just saw tired,

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<v Speaker 3>lazy defenders and went for it. So there's one thing

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<v Speaker 3>that I thought Jerome Lee should have with appy Corus.

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<v Speaker 3>How was there was acres of space in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>third of the field in the paramount of defense if

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<v Speaker 3>they had have just used some of that forward momentum

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<v Speaker 3>from Tyrell may quick play the ball, run scoot run

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<v Speaker 3>as opposed to pass past pass because there was a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of players. I just thought from the Tigers that

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<v Speaker 3>was static, it was slow. It was just this is

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<v Speaker 3>a training run. Will stop pass, stop pass, stop pass.

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<v Speaker 3>Paramatta's defense ate them up and there was an error,

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<v Speaker 3>but just needed to be more dynamic as opposed to

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<v Speaker 3>has been.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, passes the ball become runners.

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<v Speaker 1>What we're seeing, coops, with the tendencies in the game,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking where these upsets are driven by and good

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<v Speaker 1>performances are driven by. And it's a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>the outside backs getting into the middle because with the

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<v Speaker 1>fast rucks, I just said, that's where the space and

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<v Speaker 1>making those big opposition middles miss and fatiguing them and

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<v Speaker 1>it all just rolls from there. Yeah, the Tigers in

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<v Speaker 1>the first half, coops, they lack decisiveness in that first

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes, watching them and watching them come out of yardage,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know whether they want to go forward or

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<v Speaker 1>they want to push it through the hands.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a little bit of this, little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Of that, and that's a consequence Jerome and Lucky Galvin

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<v Speaker 1>put themselves under a bit of pressure. If the Tigers,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he'd be far better served, no fuss coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of trouble. Right drive, drive, drive, drive, Get yourself

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<v Speaker 1>in a position maybe for an attacking kick.

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<v Speaker 2>Knock it down the other end. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>push the ball wide and this opportunity, just get it there.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was just at.

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<v Speaker 1>Times in that first thirty minutes they were betwixt and between.

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<v Speaker 3>I like what Lucky Galvin brings like he's energetic, like

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<v Speaker 3>he just wants to be involved. He'll turn up on

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<v Speaker 3>the left hand short side, he'd be two passes wide

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<v Speaker 3>on the right. He's just wanting to be involved in

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<v Speaker 3>the game. He needs to hold onto that. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Jerome Leui doesn't need to fall into this game manager

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<v Speaker 3>with the seventies back where he just shovel pass, shovel pass,

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<v Speaker 3>and when he steps he's stepping sideways. I think he

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<v Speaker 3>needs to go forward. Yeah, all his good stuff at

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<v Speaker 3>Penrith when he was running he had forward momentum and

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<v Speaker 3>then it was left foot, left foot. He just needs

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<v Speaker 3>to get back into being run the ball, because if

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<v Speaker 3>he had a round the ball yesterday, I'm pretty certain

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<v Speaker 3>he scores a try, sets up another and it's a

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<v Speaker 3>more dominant performance.

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<v Speaker 2>Halfway through the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, when Origin just emerged, he found his best

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<v Speaker 1>football because there was more step accelerate rather than step

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<v Speaker 1>and step, and you know he's you can see at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>There were a few things during the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched him and he was trying to corral the

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<v Speaker 1>players into shape and I was struggling getting there.

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<v Speaker 2>There was once from a.

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<v Speaker 1>Scrum, a player was supposed to run a certain line.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He missed his cue. I saw Jerome get into him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's wrestling with a lot of that stuff at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>To come from a system in Penrith where the players

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<v Speaker 1>are locked into position, you see blokes, two or three

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<v Speaker 1>blokes at a time, swinging from edge to wedge. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so coordinated. And to be in that machine for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time then suddenly go into a new team with

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<v Speaker 1>new combinations and trying to corral them, it's very difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was a player in the second half earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>It was it was ripped. It was slow, it was bad.

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<v Speaker 3>It was shovel pass. Shovel pass end up being an

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<v Speaker 3>error on the on the on the extreme side. But

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<v Speaker 3>if it had just been maybe dummy half front, just

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<v Speaker 3>forward through us, then Jerome gets it and he might

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<v Speaker 3>bounce off his left and go forward and there's a

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<v Speaker 3>inside pass.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, all these things they'll be able to tinker with.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they'd be Tiger's fans going Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 2>Boys. We did win, which they did, like.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, and I thought, with how coming back dream Buller,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a feeling they're going to do a job

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<v Speaker 1>on paramatter. At the moment, paramatter in a very dark place.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I think there were some things in that game.

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<v Speaker 1>For if your Tiger supporter gives you of optimism where

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<v Speaker 1>their season can go.

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<v Speaker 3>There's something great about our game when the Tigers are

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<v Speaker 3>winning and smiling. Oh yeah, they were through Ofver scored

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<v Speaker 3>a couple, he was pumped up, the crowd was getting involved.

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<v Speaker 4>But what do you make a para matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of those young rookies just find themselves at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment out of their depths. A lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>have come into the side at the same time. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know many teams in the modern era where all

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<v Speaker 1>young guys just come into his side and suddenly everything clicks.

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<v Speaker 1>You go through hard times. I remember that Manly Side

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<v Speaker 1>and Canberra with a green Machine. Guys come through and

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<v Speaker 1>they sort of picked up and they were surrounded by

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of experience as well. So they're in a

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<v Speaker 1>very very difficult situation and Coops they're operating without their

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<v Speaker 1>steering well, which is Mitchell moses that that makes things

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<v Speaker 1>very very difficult. I feel for Jason Rowles's walked into

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<v Speaker 1>excuse the French a complete shit fight, you know, with

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<v Speaker 1>Dylan Brown leaving and all these other factors.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say this, I picked up something interesting. Lomax

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<v Speaker 3>was the big off season signing. Wanted to play center,

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<v Speaker 3>wants to dominate the center position. He's spent three months

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<v Speaker 3>sort of practicing the yard of defending back in the centers.

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<v Speaker 3>He does get caught out against Melbourne Storm a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of times, but then to start the game on the weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>he's defending on the wing and attacking in the centers,

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<v Speaker 3>which I thought was I don't know if it was

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<v Speaker 3>Lomax's call Jason's call, but that was a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>strange to see that unfolded.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually, if I'm Jason, I like that, Coops, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think Jason Rowles looks at the team and says, right,

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<v Speaker 1>where are my experienced guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Who are the guys that can win a game for me?

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<v Speaker 1>And there's only a couple there, and he's one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think he looks at it rosy and says, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to work out a system of play

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<v Speaker 1>where i can get as much as I can out

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<v Speaker 1>of Zach. Look, I don't think Zach has a problem

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<v Speaker 1>doing that. It's the guy he plays alongside, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he mirrors it. He's got to do the opposite. That's

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<v Speaker 1>typically three young player.

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<v Speaker 3>And I will say this, I think Junior Barlow needs

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<v Speaker 3>to lead at those stages. Yesterday Did he fly out

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<v Speaker 3>of line and try and rattle the Tiger's defender? Did

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<v Speaker 3>skittle defenders carrying the ball like he just needs to lead.

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<v Speaker 1>The concern Coops in Paramatta is that when the Tigers scored,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's a lot of areas both sides, but Penrith

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<v Speaker 1>dug him defensively and they repelled him a few times.

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<v Speaker 1>But once the Tigers got that first try, you could

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<v Speaker 1>see their defensive effort start to subside, and that tried

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<v Speaker 1>before halftime just killed them.

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<v Speaker 2>On a On another note, what about your Roosters. In

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<v Speaker 2>my time in rugby league, I'm trying to think of

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<v Speaker 2>a bigger upset.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the Roosters one year winning the competition and

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<v Speaker 1>the goal case sped him in the last game of

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<v Speaker 1>the round, which are about ten eleven to one. But

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<v Speaker 1>who thinks about odds and winning money? But that one

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<v Speaker 1>eleven to one to start the game. The Roosters look coops.

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<v Speaker 1>They scored thirty eight points. But upsets are driven by

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<v Speaker 1>defense and high pressure defense. Defense within defense wins matches,

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<v Speaker 1>defense wins comps because defenses desire.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can see they'd burned their bondet after the

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<v Speaker 1>week before, and rightfully so. Their sword had been sharpened

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<v Speaker 1>by all the criticism. And let's not take anything away

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<v Speaker 1>from the Roosters, but they came up against a side

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<v Speaker 1>who all week have been told you're going to win

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<v Speaker 1>by fifty sixty points, eleven to one, twelve to one.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this the biggest despised outsiders in modern history of

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<v Speaker 1>the game. And I got no doubt that bled into them.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what fed that was Alimity scoring that frightfully That's

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<v Speaker 1>where they scored and I thought to myself, wow this

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<v Speaker 1>is and I reckon They probably thought the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And one thing for the Roosters was Panthers probably played

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<v Speaker 3>an average game. They still scored thirty two points and

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<v Speaker 3>they went within a centimeter potentially sent it to golden points.

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<v Speaker 3>So the ability for Penrith, even though they're not playing

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<v Speaker 3>well is to still compete on every play.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen this previous seasons have we you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>build into their year and they have a game like

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<v Speaker 1>this last year they knocked over by Wigan and a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago though they'll beat in the early rounds.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think one thing that the Roosters did well

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<v Speaker 3>is probably the first time in a while, the tall

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<v Speaker 3>timber of say Daniel Tupo and Dominic Young really exposed

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<v Speaker 3>sort of doing Edwards Bryan Tott and the smaller back

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<v Speaker 3>three where they were just jumping up and catching everything

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<v Speaker 3>or competing for things.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think Melbourne actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Did it at Penrith when they beat them basically for

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<v Speaker 3>the minor premiership at home last year too, So that

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<v Speaker 3>might be something that teams with bigger our side bags

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<v Speaker 3>might try and do.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of Not a lot has been made of this,

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<v Speaker 1>but the move from Penrith Park or Blue Belt Stadium

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<v Speaker 1>to Combat.

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<v Speaker 2>Will be it will be a factor this year.

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<v Speaker 4>How big a fact of that.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as minor premierships like I still see them

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<v Speaker 1>in the top four.

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<v Speaker 2>But put it this way, Coops, I reckon Penrith Park.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon a lot of size that would travel out

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<v Speaker 1>there on a Friday or Saturday night would be beaten

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<v Speaker 1>before they get off the bus. It's just such a

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<v Speaker 1>tough place to win. And it's just that that's say

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<v Speaker 1>it's a furnace with all the Panthers fans. I liken

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<v Speaker 1>it Coop to the Broncos. In the early nineties, early

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<v Speaker 1>actually right through the mid nineties, they moved out of

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<v Speaker 1>Lange Park while it was getting redone and they went

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<v Speaker 1>to a Q two stadium iet what it was called

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<v Speaker 1>sixty four thousand people.

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<v Speaker 2>It was such it was an awful place to play.

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<v Speaker 2>Although there were.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixty thousand people, it was a long way away, a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit like the old Stadium Australia when it was

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<v Speaker 1>the Olympic track on there. But the Broncos loved it

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<v Speaker 1>because it was such a tough place to go, and

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<v Speaker 1>you did. I didn't like playing there, and the parents

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like playing there. Their win rate was about damn

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<v Speaker 1>good side but coops. Then they moved back to their

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<v Speaker 1>home sun Corp Stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>But everyone else loved me. The other sides love playing

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<v Speaker 2>there as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll give you that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think some teams that played pen at Penweth Park

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<v Speaker 3>would have been half beaten before they arrived. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think Penrith, on the other hand, have this mindset of

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<v Speaker 3>they'll play anyone anywhere. I don't know if Penrith would

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<v Speaker 3>suffer from not playing at home because they've just got

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<v Speaker 3>this ability to play the core play at some court,

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<v Speaker 3>play at Las Vegas still get the job done. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'll give you the tip that maybe other teams feel

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit more happier that they don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>go to.

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<v Speaker 1>What about you, blokes, the Old Olympic Park. What a

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<v Speaker 1>mass of a place that was, What an awful place.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you move into Amy Park and like the

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<v Speaker 1>winning continues, but for opposing teams, such a better place

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<v Speaker 1>to play.

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<v Speaker 3>So in winter at the Old Olympic Park, Bellamy would

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<v Speaker 3>never let us wear a jumper. It's three degrees outside

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<v Speaker 3>on a Saturday night. Refuse for us to run out

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<v Speaker 3>and the warm up and wear a jumper. But he

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<v Speaker 3>always said, if the opposition's wearing a jacket, we've got

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<v Speaker 3>a beat before they start. And you run out for

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<v Speaker 3>warm up and you see maybe six of the guys

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<v Speaker 3>wearing their hoodie or a bit of a jackety go.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, we've got them tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, another side, who the upsets? Yeah? The upset? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's it's Warriors.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved about the Warriors that they robbed to self

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<v Speaker 1>correct themselves after Vegas. I thought in Vegas they just

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<v Speaker 1>they pushed the ball unnecessarily to the edge all the

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<v Speaker 1>time trying to create. When you've got two, you got

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<v Speaker 1>seven and six there in Metcalf and Schnelle who knew

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<v Speaker 1>that are really game managers.

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<v Speaker 2>So you need Wade Eagan to be the.

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<v Speaker 1>Focal point of your attack and lead the attack. And

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<v Speaker 1>they enable to do that because they did less. They centralized.

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<v Speaker 1>They play far more north south, and with Egan running

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<v Speaker 1>the show in the middle, it allowed Metcalf and Chanelle

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<v Speaker 1>to sit back and actually play to their strengths.

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<v Speaker 2>Run the football.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought Egan was good, and I will say this

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<v Speaker 3>about the Warriors. A lot of people wrote them off

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<v Speaker 3>after their Vegas performance, and if you go back and

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<v Speaker 3>watch the manly game, I think Turbo scored within the

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<v Speaker 3>first few minutes. The Warriors actually come up with some

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<v Speaker 3>pretty poor play inside the first ten minutes, like some

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<v Speaker 3>really disconnected play, but the temperament of Egan, but Metcalf

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<v Speaker 3>as well to hold their nerve and then hit the

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<v Speaker 3>gas and come up some pretty good football. Metcalf is

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<v Speaker 3>a running half back and once he loses that strength,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the Warriors will struggle.

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<v Speaker 4>So he needs to run the ball a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like Chanelle too. Chanelle in Vegas really only

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<v Speaker 1>ran the ball once. He's a beautiful, sweet left foot.

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<v Speaker 1>He went bang, went half through and you can see

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<v Speaker 1>he'd gone back. Had to look at his game and

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<v Speaker 1>realized he was just trying to finest the ball around

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<v Speaker 1>get back to his strength. About four or five times

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<v Speaker 1>against mainly he come off the left and went half through.

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<v Speaker 3>So Webster was at Penrith and sort of contribute to

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<v Speaker 3>the attacking system that they run out there, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>bought that to the Warriors and metcalf runs the cleary system.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got Harris Tavita on the left and you've got

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<v Speaker 3>Charms on the right, and the threat of running that

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<v Speaker 3>metcalf provides it opens up some passing lanes for everyone else.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the thing like oftentimes, Coop.

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<v Speaker 1>We always think traditionally if fords go forward as the

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<v Speaker 1>crowd space for the halves, but sometimes the halves can

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<v Speaker 1>take you forward as well. You know, check off a

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<v Speaker 1>right foot metcalf off of right foot, goes halfway through,

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<v Speaker 1>Wade Egan sweeps the way he goes, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>building off that fast momentum.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the other upsets was the Raiders the

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<v Speaker 3>fancied Broncos.

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<v Speaker 4>That was a coaching.

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<v Speaker 3>Master class from Ricky, like he's been doing it a

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<v Speaker 3>long time. But everyone expected Brisbane to go there and

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<v Speaker 3>dominate like they did the Roosters. And it looks like

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<v Speaker 3>Ricky did the old no tarpany but did the old

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, how you match up the player for

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<v Speaker 3>player and say, hey, you need to dominate your opposition players. Tonight,

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<v Speaker 3>what probably in Hawesbury did to stop pass and Carrigan tremendous.

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<v Speaker 2>And zach Oskin too yep, Zach was very very good.

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<v Speaker 3>Very good, and then Foggy outplayed Reynolds. Like it's almost

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<v Speaker 3>that Ricky did the old individual matchup and so you

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<v Speaker 3>dominate your individual player and we'll go on and win.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jina Coop watching that game, it's like I've always

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<v Speaker 1>been a strong believer, always been a strong believer. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that every team must develop their own unique.

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<v Speaker 2>Style of playing. Right. So if you've got a unique stra.

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<v Speaker 1>Particularly if you're a club who's you know, toward the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom end around the mid table, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>beat the top size, you can't play Diet Melbourne, Diet Penrith.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to establish your own special style of football

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<v Speaker 1>and then and if you can impose that style on

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<v Speaker 1>the contest, you can cause an upset. That's what the

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<v Speaker 1>Raiders have got. Raiders are playing very different to everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>There's such a fast moving site. Everyone's got footwork. They

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<v Speaker 1>bring those young, fast guys through the middle, make the

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<v Speaker 1>big opposition forwards miss and they just build from there.

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<v Speaker 1>I just like the fact that they have got their

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<v Speaker 1>own style. That is crucial to their success.

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<v Speaker 3>Well said Chris has started really well. Timiko on the

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<v Speaker 3>other side very good. So they've got threat to go

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<v Speaker 3>apart on either side of the park, and they're forwards.

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<v Speaker 4>That's their strength. That's ultimately about strange.

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<v Speaker 1>Just two sides who are on the end of those

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<v Speaker 1>upsets until wet Broncos. And second, but mainly we said

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<v Speaker 1>last week, manly, you've got to be careful about falling

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<v Speaker 1>in love with mainly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when they're on their on and when they're bad,

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<v Speaker 3>they're bad. And we said that against the Cowboys that

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<v Speaker 3>when they get they're attacking mindset on, they are great.

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<v Speaker 3>But can they defend the long periods of time? Can

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<v Speaker 3>they play when slow play the balls?

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<v Speaker 1>All that thing comes to their style of game and

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<v Speaker 1>the Broncos well, I managed said after the game he

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<v Speaker 1>said he's found out some new things about his sight.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't say what they were.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm guessing that Michael McGuire showed a lot of opportunities

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<v Speaker 3>for the Broncos to score points. This is me guessing

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<v Speaker 3>because he said, I've learned a lot about my team

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<v Speaker 3>and how to get them ready. And sometimes when you

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<v Speaker 3>show a lot of vision to let's say Reese Walsh

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<v Speaker 3>and Ben Han and all those guys, about how much

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity there is a score points if you get the

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<v Speaker 3>roll of sleeves up and do the dirty work first.

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<v Speaker 3>You go straight into try assist mode. And Walsh had

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<v Speaker 3>some errors. But knowing Michael McGuire from his history, I

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<v Speaker 3>think he may have been a bit too how can

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<v Speaker 3>I say, fluffy in his approach maybe and too positive.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he had to dial it back and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we're playing at Ricky Stewart here, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a dog.

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<v Speaker 2>For well, that's what Ricky would have done.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, regardless of their victory in Vegas, Ricky would have

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<v Speaker 1>found a way through the week be agitated about something

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<v Speaker 1>that puts his sides on their toes.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing, coops. If you're you're a top

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<v Speaker 2>line team and.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to beat an underdog, you beat an underdog

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<v Speaker 1>by playing like an underdog.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what Penrith's is such a great side.

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<v Speaker 1>Regardless over the last four years, who've they've come up

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<v Speaker 1>against is the generally exception the other night, but they

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<v Speaker 1>have an established style of football. They're ruthless with working

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<v Speaker 1>down the field, kick down the far end, pin the

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<v Speaker 1>opposition against their line and just beat the shit out

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<v Speaker 1>of them and take your game from there. A little

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<v Speaker 1>bit like talking about the sports is like Jordan's Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>bulls would come up against sides who will be all

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<v Speaker 1>fired up to beat them, but Jordan riding those bulls.

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<v Speaker 1>The nature of Jordan and what a competitor he was. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>they would beat underdogs with an underdog mentality.

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<v Speaker 4>What about the Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 2>Dolphins, they've been really disappointing the first week. You could

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<v Speaker 2>forgive it, Coops, because all.

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<v Speaker 1>The circumstances with the floods and keymen didn't come down.

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<v Speaker 1>But they'll pour against Newcastle. The concern, Coop was how

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<v Speaker 1>slow moving it was. I could see what they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do a little bit like we said about the

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<v Speaker 1>Warriors in their first round in Vegas, is that they

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to find creativity and points by going wide

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. And if you're going to strip numbers, Coop,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, is that the immediacy is that whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's off the seven or the nine or the six,

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<v Speaker 1>that first little bit that your play to the sweep

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<v Speaker 1>option has got to be so tight and so fast

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<v Speaker 1>to start that stripping process.

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<v Speaker 2>They are so loose and so slow they just ended

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<v Speaker 2>up in the green stand.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>They look like they are working to a field position,

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<v Speaker 3>just slowly and one out and then they run their

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<v Speaker 3>main play and they go, why didn't that work. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>tell you why it didn't work. There's zero rock speed

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<v Speaker 3>ability to create a quicker play the ball, and it

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<v Speaker 3>just was sidewise, sideways, sideways, and Cartower set up one

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<v Speaker 3>and scored one. And if you go back and look,

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<v Speaker 3>he actually changes speed and that's the reason why he

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<v Speaker 3>scores and sets one up because he goes from slow

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<v Speaker 3>to fast and it catches his defense out.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>So they need a little bit more athleticism play the

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<v Speaker 3>ball speed and just something to get the fence not

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<v Speaker 3>moving forward, staying back.

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<v Speaker 2>It was interesting that game just was watching trends.

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<v Speaker 1>Newcast most and Newcastles tries come as a result of

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<v Speaker 1>a certain shape called split shape, which is one under

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<v Speaker 1>one short he can go out the back with. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a really good run pass option play. And both both

0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.800
<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins tries come of that same shape. It's good

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<v Speaker 1>for Katoa and it's good for players like Calum Ponga

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<v Speaker 1>and the Fletcher Sharp because it enables you to run

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<v Speaker 1>still that pass option.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but if Carto hadn't changed speed, he doesn't go

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<v Speaker 3>through through that That was the thing for me, seeing

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<v Speaker 3>that everything else was slow, but he went fast and

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<v Speaker 3>that changed the play.

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<v Speaker 2>Got some concerns around the Cowboys season that sort.

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<v Speaker 1>For the game, Toddy Peyton said, they asked what are

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<v Speaker 1>you looking for? He used words to the extent of

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<v Speaker 1>I want my side looking for collision, chase the collision,

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<v Speaker 1>which means he wants them to play physical, he wants

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<v Speaker 1>them to play tough. And I don't think they got

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<v Speaker 1>the mema.

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<v Speaker 4>No they are.

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<v Speaker 3>They are so inconsistent, Like they beat the Melbourne Storm

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<v Speaker 3>in the last week of the preseason and looked good

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<v Speaker 3>and then there are two round games this year, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean very poor. I will say this that defensively, that's

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<v Speaker 3>ultimately where it sits that they need to be way

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<v Speaker 3>better one physical but also decision making on their edges.

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<v Speaker 3>But when you've got people like Eden and drink Water,

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<v Speaker 3>in my opinion, I think you need back rollers that

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<v Speaker 3>are arrow straight going down the field, catching the eye

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<v Speaker 3>of defenders. So Didon can do his show and go

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<v Speaker 3>and go through and drink Water can do his thing

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<v Speaker 3>as well. When you've got back roles that want to

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<v Speaker 3>be passed the ball early or want to go underneath

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<v Speaker 3>all the time. It's not good for someone's dynamic like Didon.

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<v Speaker 3>So defensively, they need to improve one thousand percent one

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<v Speaker 3>of their attacking stuff. They need straight runners to help

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<v Speaker 3>Diden and drink water do their.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing to sink coops getting the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Players were wandering across the field, Players were overrunning them.

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<v Speaker 1>Players were running the wrong running the wrong gaps. They

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<v Speaker 1>are running into.

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<v Speaker 2>Each other at points. It was for a team.

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<v Speaker 1>My knock always in the last few years on the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys is that they defend like they're just waiting to

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<v Speaker 1>get the ball back. Hasn't been a problem with their attack.

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<v Speaker 1>They love attacking. But the other night their attack was shocking.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's so hard to fathom because the year was

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<v Speaker 3>it twenty twenty two. They were all about defense was

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<v Speaker 3>they were all about chasing.

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<v Speaker 2>It had the balance right, yep.

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<v Speaker 3>And now if you put attack above defense for some

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<v Speaker 3>reason since nineteenla, being attack mined doesn't help your defense,

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<v Speaker 3>but being defense minded helps your.

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<v Speaker 2>Attack most definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Warriors, the Warriors have wrestled that the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years as well. When they had that really

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<v Speaker 1>successful season in twenty twenty three, if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the way they started the season. It was very conservative football.

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<v Speaker 1>It was let's conserve most of our energy by getting

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<v Speaker 1>into defensively, and things stemmed off that. I thought last

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<v Speaker 1>year they ventured away from that round one against the Raiders,

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<v Speaker 1>they ventured away round two. They get back to that,

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<v Speaker 1>get back to that blueprint that work served them so well.

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<v Speaker 4>Another zero to two team, the Dragons.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Flane's comments about luck nearly is he would have liked

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<v Speaker 1>to take those words back.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was really strange and it's hard to

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<v Speaker 3>comment because you're not in the sanctum.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Lachlan Newis didn't play his best game. It's round two,

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<v Speaker 3>young half back, new to the club, and he had

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<v Speaker 3>a little crack at him. Well, no, it didn't. He

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<v Speaker 3>actually he didn't defend him when a reporter asked, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I find it strange. He knows Elie is better than

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<v Speaker 3>you and I, but he also knows what it takes

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<v Speaker 3>to when a young half gets criticized, how hard that

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<v Speaker 3>can be to come back.

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<v Speaker 1>From, particularly with Lachlan because you can see he's pretty sensitive.

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<v Speaker 2>Young Blake.

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<v Speaker 1>You just get the sense of playmakers. There's some playmakers

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<v Speaker 1>like a munster, like if you go with him all

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<v Speaker 1>you want, go on the press conference, kick him out

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<v Speaker 1>the ass, whatever. He'll just respond to it. But there's

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<v Speaker 1>other players who don't respond to that. And Lachlan's had

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<v Speaker 1>a very difficult last eight months at saus you know,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving there, he's gone through through a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I know that I know Flannel has rung

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<v Speaker 2>him and apologize. Sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think a private apology equates to.

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<v Speaker 3>A public's interesting to see how that happens, because you know, again,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I'm just judging from the outside looking in,

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<v Speaker 3>Like him and Flannagan bent Hunt had.

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<v Speaker 4>Their issues whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, and let's see if flaklands Maybe he just.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't like half backs Flanner, who knows he doesn't like you?

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<v Speaker 1>And I yeah, well after tonight, I reckon he won't. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>just before we go, well under the Bulldogs they have

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of expectation on their shoulders. Two tricky games.

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<v Speaker 1>First up, they've looked fantastic kick out Burton kick out button. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be a test. Interesting to see what

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<v Speaker 1>they'll do. If Toby Sexton then Drew Hutcheson can work together,

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<v Speaker 1>play together, I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Might a little bit pass happy.

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<v Speaker 1>He might look to put a big, big, rugged, strong

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<v Speaker 1>body in the six jersey.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like like from defensively, I think they still have

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<v Speaker 3>the mojo to work for each other and stop up opposition.

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<v Speaker 3>But just confidence and belief and presence that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Toby Sexton or someone else looks over the other side

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<v Speaker 3>of the field on their left side and there's no

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<v Speaker 3>Burton kickout there. When they put it together, the left

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<v Speaker 3>side is red hot with a threat to kick out.

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<v Speaker 3>A good balance of what Burt was doing before he

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<v Speaker 3>got in.

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<v Speaker 1>Cherry ye yeah, yeah, Burton, that's such such a weapon.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about how Penris Breton butter is kick long

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<v Speaker 1>or kick high and pin.

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<v Speaker 2>Them on their own line.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's what Burton's good at, those satanic bombs he

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<v Speaker 1>puts up.

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<v Speaker 2>Please leave me out of that