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Speaker 1: I said at the starting year, I taught Adam Field

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Speaker 2: By it, but I'll tee it to Rell May. He

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Speaker 2: started the season.

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Speaker 1: His performance yesterday and seventy three minutes and the quality

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Speaker 3: He's been the most dominant forward in the park for

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Speaker 3: both the Tigers performances and great yesterday. But that first

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Speaker 3: half yesterday made it was. It was uninspiring from both teams,

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Speaker 3: like it was there for the taking and all one

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Speaker 3: team had to do after about twenty minutes was complete.

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Speaker 3: The next five sets, they would have scored one or

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Speaker 3: two tries. I thought the Tigers obviously got their game together,

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Speaker 3: defended pretty well for the majority of the game. But

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Speaker 3: the reason why they got to think it was sixteen

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Speaker 3: playing well, anyone with footwork that had energy that went

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Speaker 3: to the contest and did.

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Speaker 4: Something fast came up with a play.

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Speaker 3: Luckie Galvin came up with one, and Durine Buller on

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Speaker 3: that kick return all of a sudden just saw tired,

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Speaker 3: lazy defenders and went for it. So there's one thing

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Speaker 3: that I thought Jerome Lee should have with appy Corus.

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Speaker 3: How was there was acres of space in the middle

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Speaker 3: they had have just used some of that forward momentum

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Speaker 3: couple of players. I just thought from the Tigers that

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Speaker 3: Paramatta's defense ate them up and there was an error,

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Speaker 3: but just needed to be more dynamic as opposed to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, passes the ball become runners.

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Speaker 1: What we're seeing, coops, with the tendencies in the game,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking where these upsets are driven by and good

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Speaker 1: performances are driven by. And it's a lot of times

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Speaker 1: making those big opposition middles miss and fatiguing them and

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Speaker 1: it all just rolls from there. Yeah, the Tigers in

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Speaker 1: I didn't know whether they want to go forward or

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Speaker 2: There was a little bit of this, little bit.

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Speaker 1: Of that, and that's a consequence Jerome and Lucky Galvin

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Speaker 1: I think he'd be far better served, no fuss coming

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Speaker 2: Knock it down the other end. If you want to

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Speaker 2: But there was just at.

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Speaker 3: I like what Lucky Galvin brings like he's energetic, like

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Speaker 3: the left hand short side, he'd be two passes wide

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Speaker 3: the game. He needs to hold onto that. I think

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Speaker 3: with the seventies back where he just shovel pass, shovel pass,

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Speaker 3: and when he steps he's stepping sideways. I think he

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Speaker 3: needs to go forward. Yeah, all his good stuff at

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Speaker 3: then it was left foot, left foot. He just needs

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Speaker 3: he had a round the ball yesterday, I'm pretty certain

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Speaker 2: Halfway through the year.

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Speaker 2: There were a few things during the game.

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Speaker 1: I watched him and he was trying to corral the

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Speaker 1: Scrum, a player was supposed to run a certain line.

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Speaker 1: He missed his cue. I saw Jerome get into him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a player in the second half earlier.

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Speaker 3: It was it was ripped. It was slow, it was bad.

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Speaker 3: It was shovel pass. Shovel pass end up being an

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Speaker 3: if it had just been maybe dummy half front, just

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Speaker 1: You know, all these things they'll be able to tinker with.

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Speaker 1: I think they'd be Tiger's fans going Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 2: Boys. We did win, which they did, like.

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Speaker 1: You know, and I thought, with how coming back dream Buller,

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Speaker 1: But but I think there were some things in that game.

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Speaker 1: For if your Tiger supporter gives you of optimism where

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Speaker 3: There's something great about our game when the Tigers are

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Speaker 4: But what do you make a para matter.

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Speaker 2: Look at the moment.

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Speaker 1: A lot of those young rookies just find themselves at

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Speaker 1: You go through hard times. I remember that Manly Side

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Speaker 3: I will say this, I picked up something interesting. Lomax

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Speaker 3: Lomax's call Jason's call, but that was a little bit

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Speaker 1: I actually, if I'm Jason, I like that, Coops, because

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Speaker 1: I think Jason Rowles looks at the team and says, right,

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Speaker 2: Who are the guys that can win a game for me?

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Speaker 1: And there's only a couple there, and he's one of them.

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Speaker 1: And I think he looks at it rosy and says, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to work out a system of play

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Speaker 3: And I will say this, I think Junior Barlow needs

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Speaker 3: skittle defenders carrying the ball like he just needs to lead.

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Speaker 1: The concern Coops in Paramatta is that when the Tigers scored,

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Speaker 2: On a On another note, what about your Roosters. In

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Speaker 2: my time in rugby league, I'm trying to think of

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Speaker 2: a bigger upset.

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Speaker 1: I remember the Roosters one year winning the competition and

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Speaker 1: They scored thirty eight points. But upsets are driven by

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Speaker 1: defense and high pressure defense. Defense within defense wins matches,

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Speaker 2: That's what it is.

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Speaker 1: And you can see they'd burned their bondet after the

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Speaker 1: week before, and rightfully so. Their sword had been sharpened

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Speaker 1: by all the criticism. And let's not take anything away

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Speaker 1: Is this the biggest despised outsiders in modern history of

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Speaker 1: the game. And I got no doubt that bled into them.

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Speaker 1: Now what fed that was Alimity scoring that frightfully That's

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Speaker 3: And one thing for the Roosters was Panthers probably played

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Speaker 3: an average game. They still scored thirty two points and

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Speaker 3: they went within a centimeter potentially sent it to golden points.

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Speaker 3: So the ability for Penrith, even though they're not playing

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Speaker 1: We've seen this previous seasons have we you know, they

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Speaker 3: But I think one thing that the Roosters did well

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Speaker 4: And I think Melbourne actually.

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Speaker 3: Did it at Penrith when they beat them basically for

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Speaker 3: might be something that teams with bigger our side bags

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Speaker 1: A lot of Not a lot has been made of this,

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Speaker 1: but the move from Penrith Park or Blue Belt Stadium

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Speaker 2: Will be it will be a factor this year.

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Speaker 4: How big a fact of that.

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Speaker 1: As far as minor premierships like I still see them

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Speaker 2: But put it this way, Coops, I reckon Penrith Park.

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Speaker 1: I reckon a lot of size that would travel out

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Speaker 1: tough place to win. And it's just that that's say

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Speaker 1: it's a furnace with all the Panthers fans. I liken

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Speaker 1: it Coop to the Broncos. In the early nineties, early

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Speaker 3: I thought Egan was good, and I will say this

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Speaker 1: And I like Chanelle too. Chanelle in Vegas really only

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Speaker 3: So Webster was at Penrith and sort of contribute to

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Speaker 3: And one of the other upsets was the Raiders the

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Speaker 4: That was a coaching.

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Speaker 3: Master class from Ricky, like he's been doing it a

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Speaker 1: All that thing comes to their style of game and

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Speaker 3: I'm guessing that Michael McGuire showed a lot of opportunities

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Speaker 2: For well, that's what Ricky would have done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, regardless of their victory in Vegas, Ricky would have

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing, coops. If you're you're a top

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Speaker 1: You want to beat an underdog, you beat an underdog

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: So they need a little bit more athleticism play the

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Speaker 1: a really good run pass option play. And both both

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Speaker 1: For the game, Toddy Peyton said, they asked what are

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Speaker 4: No they are.

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Speaker 3: in the last week of the preseason and looked good

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Speaker 3: and then there are two round games this year, I

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Speaker 3: mean very poor. I will say this that defensively, that's

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Speaker 3: ultimately where it sits that they need to be way

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Speaker 3: better one physical but also decision making on their edges.

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Speaker 3: But when you've got people like Eden and drink Water,

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Speaker 3: in my opinion, I think you need back rollers that

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Speaker 3: are arrow straight going down the field, catching the eye

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Speaker 3: of defenders. So Didon can do his show and go

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Speaker 3: and go through and drink Water can do his thing

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Speaker 3: as well. When you've got back roles that want to

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Speaker 3: be passed the ball early or want to go underneath

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Speaker 3: all the time. It's not good for someone's dynamic like Didon.

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Speaker 3: So defensively, they need to improve one thousand percent one

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Speaker 3: of their attacking stuff. They need straight runners to help

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Speaker 3: Diden and drink water do their.

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Speaker 2: Thing to sink coops getting the ball.

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Speaker 1: Players were wandering across the field, Players were overrunning them.

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Speaker 1: Players were running the wrong running the wrong gaps. They

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Speaker 1: are running into.

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Speaker 2: Each other at points. It was for a team.

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Speaker 1: My knock always in the last few years on the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys is that they defend like they're just waiting to

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Speaker 1: get the ball back. Hasn't been a problem with their attack.

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Speaker 1: They love attacking. But the other night their attack was shocking.

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Speaker 3: But that's so hard to fathom because the year was

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Speaker 3: it twenty twenty two. They were all about defense was

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Speaker 3: they were all about chasing.

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Speaker 2: It had the balance right, yep.

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Speaker 3: And now if you put attack above defense for some

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Speaker 3: reason since nineteenla, being attack mined doesn't help your defense,

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Speaker 3: but being defense minded helps your.

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Speaker 2: Attack most definitely.

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Speaker 1: And the Warriors, the Warriors have wrestled that the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years as well. When they had that really

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Speaker 1: successful season in twenty twenty three, if you look at

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Speaker 1: the way they started the season. It was very conservative football.

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Speaker 1: It was let's conserve most of our energy by getting

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Speaker 1: into defensively, and things stemmed off that. I thought last

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Speaker 1: year they ventured away from that round one against the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: they ventured away round two. They get back to that,

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Speaker 1: get back to that blueprint that work served them so well.

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Speaker 4: Another zero to two team, the Dragons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

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Speaker 1: Flane's comments about luck nearly is he would have liked

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Speaker 1: to take those words back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think it was really strange and it's hard to

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Speaker 3: comment because you're not in the sanctum.

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Speaker 4: You don't know.

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Speaker 3: Lachlan Newis didn't play his best game. It's round two,

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Speaker 3: young half back, new to the club, and he had

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Speaker 3: a little crack at him. Well, no, it didn't. He

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Speaker 3: actually he didn't defend him when a reporter asked, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I find it strange. He knows Elie is better than

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Speaker 3: you and I, but he also knows what it takes

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Speaker 3: to when a young half gets criticized, how hard that

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Speaker 3: can be to come back.

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Speaker 1: From, particularly with Lachlan because you can see he's pretty sensitive.

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Speaker 2: Young Blake.

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Speaker 1: You just get the sense of playmakers. There's some playmakers

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Speaker 1: like a munster, like if you go with him all

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Speaker 1: you want, go on the press conference, kick him out

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Speaker 1: the ass, whatever. He'll just respond to it. But there's

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Speaker 1: other players who don't respond to that. And Lachlan's had

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Speaker 1: a very difficult last eight months at saus you know,

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Speaker 1: leaving there, he's gone through through a lot.

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Speaker 2: And so I know that I know Flannel has rung

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Speaker 2: him and apologize. Sometimes.

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Speaker 1: I don't think a private apology equates to.

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Speaker 3: A public's interesting to see how that happens, because you know, again,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just judging from the outside looking in,

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Speaker 3: Like him and Flannagan bent Hunt had.

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Speaker 4: Their issues whatever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and let's see if flaklands Maybe he just.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't like half backs Flanner, who knows he doesn't like you?

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Speaker 1: And I yeah, well after tonight, I reckon he won't. Hey,

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Speaker 1: just before we go, well under the Bulldogs they have

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Speaker 1: with a lot of expectation on their shoulders. Two tricky games.

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Speaker 1: First up, they've looked fantastic kick out Burton kick out button. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's going to be a test. Interesting to see what

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Speaker 1: they'll do. If Toby Sexton then Drew Hutcheson can work together,

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Speaker 1: play together, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: Might a little bit pass happy.

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Speaker 1: He might look to put a big, big, rugged, strong

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Speaker 1: body in the six jersey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like like from defensively, I think they still have

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Speaker 3: the mojo to work for each other and stop up opposition.

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Speaker 3: But just confidence and belief and presence that you know,

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Speaker 3: Toby Sexton or someone else looks over the other side

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Speaker 3: of the field on their left side and there's no

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Speaker 3: Burton kickout there. When they put it together, the left

532
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Speaker 3: side is red hot with a threat to kick out.

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Speaker 3: A good balance of what Burt was doing before he

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Speaker 3: got in.

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Speaker 1: Cherry ye yeah, yeah, Burton, that's such such a weapon.

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Speaker 1: We talked about how Penris Breton butter is kick long

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Speaker 1: or kick high and pin.

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Speaker 2: Them on their own line.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what Burton's good at, those satanic bombs he

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Speaker 1: puts up.

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Speaker 2: Please leave me out of that