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Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday, December twelve, twenty twenty five. One of the

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Speaker 1: youngest members of a prestigious Melbourne AFL family has been

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Speaker 1: unmasked as a rapist. Tom Sylvanny is the son of

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Speaker 1: Carlton legend Stephen Sylvanni and TV presenter Joe Sylvanny. The

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Speaker 1: twenty three year old was convicted on December five of

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Speaker 1: raping a woman twice after a house party. His identity

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Speaker 1: was revealed after a suppression order was lifted by the

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Speaker 1: Victorian County Court. The Australian government made more than seven

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Speaker 1: billion dollars in tax revenue from legal tobacco sales in

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Speaker 1: the past financial year, but it lost almost double that

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Speaker 1: to the illegal trade. Those stories are live now at

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Speaker 1: the Australian dot com dot au. You can't dictate your circumstances,

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Speaker 1: but you can control how you respond. That's the central

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Speaker 1: message in a new book by Australian of the Year

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Speaker 1: and AFL star Neil Danaher. And today, even though Danaher

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Speaker 1: has lost his voice to the ravages of motor neurone disease,

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Speaker 1: you're going to hear his words in his voice, sharing

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Speaker 1: some of the wisdom he's gleaned from more than a

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Speaker 1: decade living with this incurable, untreatable, terminal illness. Stay with us.

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Speaker 2: Life will throw difficulties that none of us get a

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Speaker 2: free run. But you still get to choose your attitude,

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Speaker 2: your effort, your response, and the meaning you make from

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Speaker 2: what happens.

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Speaker 1: This is the voice of Neil Danaher, a legendary former

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Speaker 1: coach player in the game of Ossie rules Away it

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Speaker 1: goes Neil Danahoe, when are you gonna go a toper goot?

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Speaker 3: Kick Neil dan.

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Speaker 1: Despite what you just heard, Neil Danaher, the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: five Australian of the Year, cannot speak. Neil has for

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Speaker 1: the past thirteen years lived with motor neuron disease, a terminal, degenerative,

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Speaker 1: incurable illness that has robbed him of not just the

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Speaker 1: speed and strength that made him a star at Essendon

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Speaker 1: throughout the eighties and the big presence that made him

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Speaker 1: a rock star coach for decades beyond. Neil's now also

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Speaker 1: lost the basic abilities we all take for granted, walking,

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Speaker 1: breathing comfortably and talking. Technology does enable Neil to write

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Speaker 1: using his eye movements to form letters and words, and

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Speaker 1: now it's also able to recreate his voice from the

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Speaker 1: thousands of recordings over a life in the public eye.

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Speaker 1: To mark the publication of his new book, Neil wrote

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Speaker 1: answers to questions posed by the Australians Fiona Harari, and

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Speaker 1: then this remarkable text to speech technology brought his words

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Speaker 1: to life for us.

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Speaker 2: My book isn't about pretending everything's easy. It's about reminding

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Speaker 2: people that even in the toughest moments, you're not powerless.

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Speaker 2: You can choose courage, gratitude, responsibility, hope, connection, and those

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Speaker 2: choices made again and again can change your life. That's

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Speaker 2: the message I want to leave with people. Your circumstances matter,

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Speaker 2: but your choices matter more. Choose wisely.

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Speaker 1: Neil Dana has book which is out now is called

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Speaker 1: The Power of Choice.

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Speaker 2: If there's one thing I'd like people to take from

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Speaker 2: their story is that we all have more choice than

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Speaker 2: we realize.

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Speaker 3: In many, many years and quite a few decades of

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Speaker 3: being a journalist, I've never done an interview like this.

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Speaker 3: In retrospect, I probably went in way too naively.

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Speaker 1: Fiona Harari is speaking to the fronts.

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Speaker 3: Christen Amiot I've been wanting to interview Neil Danaherth the

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Speaker 3: Australian of the Year for some time, and it's coming

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Speaker 3: profile of him. And then fortuitously, he's just got a

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Speaker 3: new book out called The Power of Choice, which he's

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Speaker 3: written for his grandchildren with the expectation that he won't

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Speaker 3: live until they're adults, and he wanted to leave them

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Speaker 3: some of his thoughts on how to live a good life.

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Speaker 3: So I picked up this book and I started reading it,

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Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting much and I was really moved at

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Speaker 3: how pragmatic and practical and authentic this man is in

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Speaker 1: We asked Fiona to record the questions she asked Neil

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Speaker 1: danaher His answers are written by himself, but voiced by

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Speaker 1: an AI model created from real samples of his voice.

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Speaker 1: We stitched the two recordings together for you today.

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Speaker 3: What has your diagnosis taught you that you wish you'd

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Speaker 2: We all have our ways of shifting our own death

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Speaker 2: It's also sharpened my sense of what really matters When

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Speaker 2: life narrows. Your priority has become clearer. People, purpose and

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Speaker 2: a deeper humility. You learn quickly that you can't control

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Speaker 2: everything and you don't need to. That acceptance has brought

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Speaker 2: are lessons I came too late, but they've changed the

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Speaker 3: What I didn't realize when I sought to have this

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Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty million dollars for research towards an

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Speaker 3: of hidden, I felt watching on TV watching videos. You

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Speaker 3: you realize this man is projecting really positive attributes, but

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Speaker 3: is becoming increasingly constricted. So I approached his publisher and

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Speaker 3: thing you notice straightaway is that although so many other

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Speaker 3: incredibly sharp. And the frustrations he must have had to

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Speaker 3: But he's harnessed it in the most extraordinary way because he,

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Speaker 3: he's just this extraordinary man.

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Speaker 4: Some of these lessons Obviously, being a football coach, it

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Speaker 4: was his trade to motivate people, to inspire people to

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Speaker 3: It's certainly been a catalyst. And he doesn't say he

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Speaker 3: He from what I understand, was always a reader. But

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Speaker 3: he has spent a lot of time thinking since he

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Speaker 3: he got to a point where he started thinking, well,

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Speaker 3: him to set up Fight MND, this extraordinary charity that

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Speaker 3: he's set up that's helped raise one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 3: million dollars for research in Melbourne. The Big Freeze is

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Speaker 3: a huge part of Melbourne's winter these days. So that's

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Speaker 3: when on the King's Birthday weekend at the MCG celebrities

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Speaker 1: And she goes trying to keep the face out of that.

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Speaker 1: That, she's duck padling to try and get out as

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Speaker 3: And in June when it happened this year again, he

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Speaker 3: obviously not the first person to raise money for modern

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Speaker 1: Coming up. More of Neil Danaher's wisdom.

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Speaker 3: Your mind seems to be one of your great strengths.

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Speaker 3: Have you changed the way you think?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've changed the way I think in some important ways.

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Speaker 2: Vulnerability is a big one. Another shift has been around beliefs.

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Speaker 2: In my younger years, I could be pretty black and

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Speaker 2: of updating your beliefs, asking more questions, and staying open.

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Speaker 2: Stubbornness isn't strength, curiosity is. And I've changed the way

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Speaker 2: I think about challenges. For a long time, like many people,

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Speaker 2: I saw setbacks as things that happened to me. Now

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Speaker 2: I try to look for the opportunity inside them. That

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Speaker 2: mindset shift from why me to what now has made

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Speaker 2: all the difference. It doesn't remove the hard stuff, but

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Speaker 2: it gives you a way to move through it with purpose.

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Speaker 2: So yes, my mind is one of my strengths. But

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Speaker 2: it's grown stronger because they've been willing to rethink old

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Speaker 1: Rari is a senior journalist with The Australian. You can

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Speaker 1: read her story right now at The Australian dot com

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Speaker 1: dot au and Neil Danaher's book, The Power of Choice

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Speaker 1: is in bookshops now