1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Hey, some angry old Karen is ripping into parents online, 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Rebecca Whitfield. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 2: Baker, are you supposed to say the full name? Well, 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: it's in the article. Did they refer to as Karen is? No? No? 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: Is she from Melbourne? At what point do you morning, Rebecca, 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: shout out to all. 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 3: The mum's doing it out, get Karen tough out there? 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: At what point did bringing up our children become someone 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: else's responsibility? Having a child and raising a family as 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: surely last greatest privilege, That is, if it is something 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: you choose and are lucky enough to be gifted. 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: Well, that seems fair enough. 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: But too often it seems some parents expect others to 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: chip in and do the hard yards, seeking an insta 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: fix to parenting challenges and outsourcing key milestones. This is 16 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: off the back of research shows that well a teacher 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: has shared that ten of her prep students in her 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: class are not toilet trained. I'm sort of with Rebecca 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: on this. 20 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: I think. 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: You don't think it's up to parents to toilet train. 22 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: I do. I just don't like Rebecca's turn she's not 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: I think you're backtracking. 24 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 3: I think you didn't read the article before you called 25 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: Rebecca parent. 26 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: I think Rebecca's spot on. Do you, by the way 27 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 2: get it sis? 28 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 3: Do you think that kids should be sent to school 29 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: and the teachers should have to toilet train? 30 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. 31 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: But I also don't think I'm going to take out 32 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: a little spot in the Son Herald this week and 33 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: rip into parents either like you know each there staying lander. 34 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 4: I can't figure out what you're arguing, So do you 35 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 4: want what side of who? 36 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: I think, Yes, kids should be toilet trained right before. 37 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: The parenting is hard enough. I don't need some bitter 38 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: old Karen in the paper ripping in as well. All right, nothing. 39 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: Pressure, But she's saying that teaching is hard as well, 40 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: and you shouldn't have to be teaching children to toilet 41 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: train when you're trying to teach them English and maths. 42 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: They're busy and doing Teddy Bears picnics in the's. 43 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: I think. 44 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 4: She has a fence pale up because you're trying to 45 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 4: have a bit each way. 46 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: I am, did you send your children to school without 47 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: having trained? 48 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 2: No? 49 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: No, I told you my trick what we used to 50 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: do with the kids. I used to get puppy pe mats. 51 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: On the mat, and you expect the teachers to do 52 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 3: that in the classroom. 53 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: No, no, no, but like, no, no, no, I'm saying that 54 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: was my Your. 55 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 4: Boys kicked there like raised like a little dog, because 56 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 4: it's the teacher's responsible. 57 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: Rebecca is an idiot, she's a Karen apparently. Apparently. 58 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying when I was teaching the kids 59 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: toilet training every now and then, there'd be accidents when 60 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: they're really young, so we would put puppy p mats 61 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: on the couch. 62 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 4: You're letting the piss on the couch, not to encourage 63 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 4: them to do it, but are the puppy pe mats 64 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 4: so the puppy peas on something? 65 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 1: Well, that's because the puppy sniffs it. But it's more 66 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: just it's like putting plastic sheets down. But that's not 67 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: a great look. 68 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 4: Okay again, I think you get pissed. 69 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: Well, no, like when you train them, when you try 70 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: to take you put them in undies and they're sitting 71 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: on the couch. But then if they're watching a show 72 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: and they get so into it, they forget and they do you. 73 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 4: Know what a lot of people that I know I 74 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 4: have been doing, They let their kids do bushwheeesh. They 75 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 4: go out in the garden and that encourages them because 76 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 4: they get quite excited about weeing in the garden. 77 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's like a good you're saying that you 78 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: should get there so your place. The little targets you 79 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: can put on the toilet. 80 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 3: Encourage a toilet because it's some circles. 81 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: They just go back to a little dog, Rebecca and apology. 82 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: Can you please apologies? I'd like to apologize to Rebecca. 83 00:03:54,480 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: Rebecca great points in that some herald. You're not a cat. No, 84 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: Rebecca's absolutely spot on's She's going to win the award 85 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: for that. 86 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: It was in the newspaper, was it? Can I see 87 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: the article in the Sun Herald? 88 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: No, we don't even have the. 89 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: Sun herold here. What state do you? 90 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: Okay? Let's no, you're not. 91 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 3: Let's sorry, unless you just got dyslexa dickslexia in that 92 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: very moment, You're not dyslexic. You've got you dyslexia, not dyslexia. 93 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: Lauren En wake up feeling good. 94 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: Follow them on the socials,