WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 1 April

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Late Debase. Good evening and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the program. I'm Caleb Bond with Joe Hildebrand and Liz Storer,

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<v Speaker 1>and shout out to our mate James McPherson who's gone

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<v Speaker 1>away on holiday for two weeks. I can't believe he's abandoned,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's having a wonderful her I'm overseas, so I

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<v Speaker 1>can understand that. Yet another reason to hate counsels. A

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<v Speaker 1>woman in Queensland has been find more than eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars for slipping in her own car while her house

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<v Speaker 1>is being renovated. Can you believe it? When we get

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<v Speaker 1>to the papers, school in Sydney is allowing children to

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<v Speaker 1>opt out of an ANZAC service, and Victoria's getting its

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<v Speaker 1>second police commissioner in just as many months. And we've

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<v Speaker 1>finally found the answer. The federal government has found the

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<v Speaker 1>answer of how to get people to quit smoking. They've

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<v Speaker 1>enacted it today. We'll tell you what it is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit later on. Now, can you believe this story

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<v Speaker 1>out of the UK that apparently a child as young

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<v Speaker 1>as three four has been expelled from nursery school. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's the equivalent of preschool or kindergarten here in Australia

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<v Speaker 1>four being transphobic or homophobic. I mean, I wish I

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<v Speaker 1>was joking about this, but the Telegraph from the UK

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<v Speaker 1>got their hands on data from the Education Department and

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<v Speaker 1>it found that in the twenty twenty three, sorry twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two, twenty three academic year, there was at least

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<v Speaker 1>one child between the ages of three and four who

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<v Speaker 1>was expelled for the offense of quote abuse against sexual

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<v Speaker 1>orientation and gender identity. There were ninety four primary school

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<v Speaker 1>children in all who were either expelled or suspended for

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<v Speaker 1>that crime. Ten of them were in year one and

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<v Speaker 1>three of them were in year two. So we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about children of three, four, five six years old here

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<v Speaker 1>who have apparently been homophobic or transphobic. The Education Department

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<v Speaker 1>said that all pupils and staff should feel safe and

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<v Speaker 1>protected at school and should never face violence or abuse.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what on earth is could a three or

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<v Speaker 1>four year old child be doing in preschool that would

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<v Speaker 1>be deemed homophobic or transphobic? I mean, you know, did

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<v Speaker 1>the kid happen to miss gender a teacher or something,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, the kid can see better than anyone

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<v Speaker 1>else that missus is actually a mister, and then mister

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<v Speaker 1>was offended by it. Seriously, this is beyond belief.

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<v Speaker 2>If your ideology punishes children for not complying, you know

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<v Speaker 2>you've gone off the deep end. And we don't get

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<v Speaker 2>any examples of what these children have apparently said or

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<v Speaker 2>done in order to be rendered guilty of this also

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<v Speaker 2>terrible crime. You've also got to wonder who the heck you.

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<v Speaker 1>Are owned these schoolrooms.

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<v Speaker 2>Who are the teachers reporting on these children for having

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<v Speaker 2>been transfer phobic or homophobic? Who are these teachers who

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<v Speaker 2>are obviously very much wedded to this ideology to the

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<v Speaker 2>extent that they're happy to take it out on children.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved this tweet by JK. Rowling, who's been a

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<v Speaker 2>massive defender of women's rights and who has consistently railed

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<v Speaker 2>against trans ideology. She says, this is totalitarian insanity. If

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<v Speaker 2>you think small children should be punished for being able

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<v Speaker 2>to recognize sex, you are a dangerous zealot who should

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<v Speaker 2>be nowhere near kids or in any position of authority

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<v Speaker 2>over them. It's that simple, for crying out loud. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got enough terrible examples out of the UK of adults

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<v Speaker 2>being arrested over memes they've put on social media thousands

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<v Speaker 2>of arrests in the year twenty twenty one alone. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to that in a bit, But now we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about kids. How are they expected to know any better?

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<v Speaker 2>And why should they their children?

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<v Speaker 3>It's amazing. I mean talk about kids being you know,

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<v Speaker 3>homophobic or transfer. Kids are everything phobic, I mean everything

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<v Speaker 3>A kid says, he's inappropriate, that's what, that's what, that's

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<v Speaker 3>right exactly, and the idea, I mean, I can't There

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<v Speaker 3>was a thing in my son's preschool and it was unbelievable,

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<v Speaker 3>how ridiculously serious they seriously they took it. But my

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<v Speaker 3>son and I think we have moved past it now

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<v Speaker 3>that he's in grade six. But my son and another

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<v Speaker 3>two kids managed to steal the iPad, the teacher's iPad

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<v Speaker 3>at the childcare center, the preschool or whatever, and went right,

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<v Speaker 3>we've got an iPad, what should we do with it?

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<v Speaker 3>And of course the very first thing that they did

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<v Speaker 3>was take photos of their naked asses, calling it as

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<v Speaker 3>kate and the educators, look, this is terribly so we

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<v Speaker 3>have to make you aware. This is been a potential

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<v Speaker 3>there's been a sexual incidentally, there is absolutely nothing sexual

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<v Speaker 3>about this kid. It's the first thing that any idiotic

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<v Speaker 3>boy will do. You kind of get the feeling that

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<v Speaker 3>with the best of intentions, I'm sure, but that in

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<v Speaker 3>applying these rules for the so called quite un quite

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<v Speaker 3>safety of kids, they're actually inserting all these kind of

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<v Speaker 3>concepts that kids are just not ready for. They just

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<v Speaker 3>do not want to know about. It's potentially dangerous or

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<v Speaker 3>creepy to actually familiarize with this sort of stuff all

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<v Speaker 3>in the name of protecting them. And that's what I've

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<v Speaker 3>just always found it just so weird that that we

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<v Speaker 3>seem to have done this, you know, and that we're

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<v Speaker 3>sort of sexualizing our kids out of the fear that

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<v Speaker 3>our kids are being sexualized.

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<v Speaker 1>And we talked about this a decade ago with the

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<v Speaker 1>safe Schools program that was being rolled out in New

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<v Speaker 1>South Wales. You might remember, what on earth could a

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<v Speaker 1>three or four year old kid be doing knowingly that

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<v Speaker 1>is homophobic or transphobica. It's just not a thing. Kids

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that way. Kids don't have prejudices. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're pretty good bullies, it should be noted, but they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have prejudices like that. And to introduce the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that they would even think that way stupid, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>an attack on free speech, as there is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of going on in the UK, yet another example of

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<v Speaker 1>just how badly things have devolved over there. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>even we're talking about schools. You can't even criticize your

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<v Speaker 1>child school anymore without having the roses rock up at

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<v Speaker 1>your door, six of them in this case, and take

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<v Speaker 1>you away for questioning because you committed the crime of

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<v Speaker 1>saying something unsavory about a teacher or a principle in

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<v Speaker 1>a WhatsApp group. I can't believe this is actually real,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is what happened to a couple in the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see footage hear of them being taken away

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<v Speaker 1>by the coppers. Maxi Allen and his wife Rosalind Levine

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<v Speaker 1>were the ones who faced the questioning from police. They

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<v Speaker 1>were called in by the school. Now the problem for

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<v Speaker 1>them is the police studies. Is that Maxie Allen is

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<v Speaker 1>a journalist. He works for Times Radio in the UK,

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<v Speaker 1>so of course he was going to tell the public

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<v Speaker 1>about it. He explains here exactly what happened on that

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<v Speaker 1>WhatsApp group.

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<v Speaker 4>Like most parents, we chunted about a few things. One

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<v Speaker 4>thing we talked about on that group was a letter

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<v Speaker 4>from the school commanding all parents not to talk about

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<v Speaker 4>the school on Facebook or social media or WhatsApp groups.

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<v Speaker 4>We thought that was a bit off. My partner Roslin

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<v Speaker 4>made a handful of vaguely spicy comments. She referred to

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<v Speaker 4>one school leader as a control freak. She said the

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<v Speaker 4>chair of governors didn't know much about anything out of

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<v Speaker 4>the blue. On the twelfth of July last year, the

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<v Speaker 4>Chair of Governors wrote to Rosalind and me. She accused

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<v Speaker 4>us of posting disparaging and inflammatory comments on WhatsApp and Facebook.

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<v Speaker 3>Control.

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<v Speaker 1>We better call in the police. How is this even real?

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<v Speaker 1>The police, the Hertfordshire Police, the arrests were necessary to

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<v Speaker 1>fully investigate the allegations, as his routine in these types

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<v Speaker 1>of matters. Following further investigations, officers deemed that no further

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<v Speaker 1>action could be taken to do insufficient evidence. What do

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<v Speaker 1>they mean, Joe routine? How many times do the police

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<v Speaker 1>callen for like a rude WhatsApp?

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<v Speaker 3>Clearly there is just not enough crime in the UK.

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<v Speaker 3>The police just enough today, that's right, But it just

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<v Speaker 3>like we forget about the insufficient evidence, insufficient evidence of

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<v Speaker 3>what what crime could possibly have been committed here. And

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<v Speaker 3>more importantly, who in that WhatsApp group is snitching.

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<v Speaker 1>To the school exactly?

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I want to know, that they've got a mole,

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<v Speaker 3>they got someone in that is going. I mean, anyone

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<v Speaker 3>who's in a WhatsApp group and has as you have kids,

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<v Speaker 3>you will just realize that they just spring up instantaneously.

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<v Speaker 3>People say stuff all the time. There's just it's just honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>the idea that you could be held responsible for something

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<v Speaker 3>said what's that group at all? Let alone that the

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<v Speaker 3>cops would actually show up to your house. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not like that would ever happen in Australia. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not a Victorian police whatever rock up at your door

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<v Speaker 3>for something you'd said on social media. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 3>just outrageous, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>But a five week investigation. This was a five week investigation,

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<v Speaker 2>no wonder you think there mustn't be any crime in

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<v Speaker 2>the UK and six cops coming round to arrest this

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<v Speaker 2>couple in front of their two crying daughters. They also

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<v Speaker 2>have a three year old who naturally will live with

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<v Speaker 2>this for the rest of her life. She's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>saw my mom and my dad being taken away by

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<v Speaker 2>the cops. I'm standing in that as it is about

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<v Speaker 2>what have my parents done? Now they herd Fordshire Police

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<v Speaker 2>statement reads are Look, this is just routine.

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<v Speaker 1>He says.

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<v Speaker 2>The arrests were necessary to fully investigate the allegations as

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<v Speaker 2>his routine in these type of matters, Like you say,

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<v Speaker 2>this is routine, really ordinary at all for them, And

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<v Speaker 2>this is now what the UK is famous for the

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<v Speaker 2>world over. They arrest women who aren't even visibly praying.

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<v Speaker 2>They are by themselves with their eyes wide open, in

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<v Speaker 2>the vicinity of abortion clinics. You get arrested for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I still remember the case. This was a twenty eighteen case.

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<v Speaker 2>You can look it up. Her name was Chelsea Russell.

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<v Speaker 2>She was a nineteen year old girl. This is how

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<v Speaker 2>bad it's been, and this is how long it's been

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<v Speaker 2>this way in the UK. She lost a friend in

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<v Speaker 2>a car accident and by way of tribute to him,

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<v Speaker 2>she posted his favorite rap song the lyrics of his

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<v Speaker 2>favorite rap song on her Instagram account, and like many

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<v Speaker 2>rap songs, it featured the N word in it. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>she was taken to court, she was found guilty. She

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<v Speaker 2>was given five hundred hours of community service. She was

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<v Speaker 2>fined and for a year she lived under a eight

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<v Speaker 2>pm to eight am curfew. So we're not punishing the

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<v Speaker 2>rapper who wrote the lyrics. We're punishing a girl who

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<v Speaker 2>posted her friend's favorite song for crying out loud. People

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<v Speaker 2>are being arrested for memes. Like I said before, in

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<v Speaker 2>the year twenty twenty one, Russia arrested four hundred people

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<v Speaker 2>for online posts, and we say, oh, well, that's to

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<v Speaker 2>be expect Russia. Yeah, now the day another dollar, it's Russia.

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<v Speaker 2>In the same year, the UK arrested three thousand, three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred people for things that they had posted online. Far more,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, we're visited by police. We're just talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the arrests here. So it was no surprise to

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<v Speaker 2>anyone that a couple of weeks ago, when Kirs Starmer

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<v Speaker 2>was in the White House, JD Vance did not miss

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<v Speaker 2>a trick raising the dire case of free speech in

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<v Speaker 2>the United Kingdom with the Prime Minister Kis Starma.

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<v Speaker 5>We also know that there have been infringements on free

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<v Speaker 5>speech that actually affect not just the British, of course

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<v Speaker 5>what the British do in their own country is up

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<v Speaker 5>to them, but also affect American technology companies and by extension,

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<v Speaker 5>American citizens. So that is something that we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 5>today at launching.

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<v Speaker 6>We've had bretis speech for a very very long time

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<v Speaker 6>in the United Kingdom and it will last for a

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<v Speaker 6>very very long time. Well no, I mean, certainly we

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<v Speaker 6>wouldn't want to reach across US citizens and we don't

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<v Speaker 6>know that's absolutely right. But in relation to pre speech

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<v Speaker 6>in the UK, I'm very proud of our history there.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, Americans know that as of August last year,

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<v Speaker 2>that is a lie. They can too reach across and

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<v Speaker 2>punish Americans for things that they post. They can indeed

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<v Speaker 2>look that one up as well. So vance knew sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there that the Prime Minister was lying, and so does

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<v Speaker 2>every single American saying in American matters.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk remains under fire, quite literally under fire now

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<v Speaker 2>with Tesla centers burning in Rome and Stockholm. Check out

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<v Speaker 2>this footage and overnote. Fire at a Tesla dealership in

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<v Speaker 2>Rome destroyed seventeen cars, while in Sweden to dealerships and

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<v Speaker 2>cars were also vandalized in this latest string of attacks

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<v Speaker 2>on Tesla's by virtue of Elon Mausk being a supporter

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<v Speaker 2>of Donald Trump. These people will stop at absolutely nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>They know that Tesla shares have plummeted over fifty percent

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<v Speaker 2>in just the last three months alone, and that's before

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<v Speaker 2>they got started. These domestic terrorists are certainly earning their

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<v Speaker 2>name of domestic terrorists. And yet if you tune into

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<v Speaker 2>some of their rallies.

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<v Speaker 7>It looks like a dance party.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you believe it? A woman who has written a book,

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<v Speaker 2>just innocently written a book, but made the mistake of

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<v Speaker 2>having one of the characters say something nice about Elon

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<v Speaker 2>Musk has now had her publisher cancel on her simply

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<v Speaker 2>for two lines from a specific character, her main character,

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<v Speaker 2>and now her novel Sparrow and Vine, has just been

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<v Speaker 2>plucked off bookshelves. In fact, didn't even make it to

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<v Speaker 2>the printing press as she'd been promised. Elon Musk's heart

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<v Speaker 2>has of course gone out to this poor woman who

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<v Speaker 2>was about to become a published or Today, he shared

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<v Speaker 2>social media this little clip read out of the Communist

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<v Speaker 2>directive of nineteen forty three, and his tweets said nothing's

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<v Speaker 2>changed in all these years.

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<v Speaker 8>In nineteen forty three, the following directive was issued from

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<v Speaker 8>party headquarters to all communists in the United States, it read.

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<v Speaker 8>When certain obstructionists become too irritating, label them after suitable

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<v Speaker 8>build ups, as fascist or Nazi or anti Semitic, and

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<v Speaker 8>use the prestige of anti fascist and tolerance organizations to

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<v Speaker 8>discredit them in the public mind. Constantly associate those who

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<v Speaker 8>oppose us with those names which already have a bad smell.

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<v Speaker 8>The association will, after enough repetition, become fact in the

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<v Speaker 8>public mind.

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<v Speaker 2>True that Tit's as true today as it ever was.

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<v Speaker 2>And Musk is rightly saying, good grief. My cars being burned.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been labeled in nazy. My gars are being burnt

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<v Speaker 2>to the ground. Tesla dealerships are going up in flames

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<v Speaker 2>all over the Western world. Now this woman can't even

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<v Speaker 2>publish her book anymore because there's one line in it

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<v Speaker 2>in which the main character says, quote, I was inspired

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<v Speaker 2>by Elon Musk, I use his five step design process.

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<v Speaker 2>That was literally it. That was it the line.

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<v Speaker 3>That cost her her book in the Communist defense, that

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<v Speaker 3>is terrible dialogue. It's just awful.

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<v Speaker 1>And that a romance book had been pulled by the

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<v Speaker 1>publisher for something to do with Elon Musk. I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, someone has written a book where like

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<v Speaker 1>someone falls in love with Elon Musk and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>some weird, just disgusting story. No wonder it's been pulled.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I read it was just her saying I

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<v Speaker 1>was inspired by Elon Musk and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Other actually the scenario you just mentioned earlier, Caleb, that

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<v Speaker 3>was actually real life.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not just doing here. But the other thing that

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<v Speaker 1>a character, the same character says in this book, and

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<v Speaker 1>for this she's been deemed racist. Top of that, remember

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<v Speaker 1>this is just an author writing for a character. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you know there are racist characters in did you Did

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<v Speaker 1>you know that there is? Buddy Hell, there's even phobic

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<v Speaker 1>characters in books and movies and films. I suppose we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to cancel every actor who's played a

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<v Speaker 1>homophobic person or a racist person, you know, a very long,

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<v Speaker 1>a long list. But the offending line was, quote, shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>there be a crew of people with questionable work visas

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<v Speaker 1>picking these grapes for us? Said that the hate crime,

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<v Speaker 1>it's got to go.

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<v Speaker 3>The nylon should have gone. After I had finished realizing

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<v Speaker 3>that Elon Musk's five point strategy was anything but inspiring,

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<v Speaker 3>but was in fact a quasi fascist neoliberal hate.

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<v Speaker 1>Crime came out of mind. Case.

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<v Speaker 3>I then turned to my friend who is of African

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<v Speaker 3>American descent, even though I don't see color, and said

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<v Speaker 3>black lives matter. Then we went to the movies, but

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<v Speaker 3>I had to have a trigger warning because it was

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<v Speaker 3>gone with the wind. What do they want people to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about? But this is the thing, they're just trites.

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<v Speaker 3>Are just not very good at democracy. And that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not very good at stopping Donald Trump from getting elected.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not very good at actually, you know, manipulating the

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<v Speaker 3>market in such a wack was that I actually believed

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<v Speaker 3>that the market should have a right to exist in

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<v Speaker 3>such a way that Tesla actually you know, collapses of

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<v Speaker 3>its own accord ie by it not buying Tesla's, which

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<v Speaker 3>is difficult because they were the ones who went out

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<v Speaker 3>and bought all the Tesla's, when having a Tesla was

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<v Speaker 3>a sign of virtue, signaling what are wealthy overprivileged inner

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<v Speaker 3>city was be to what you were instead of being what,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, an advocate of hate criminal and Trump supporter

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<v Speaker 3>Elon Muskular. And so the problem is that these are

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<v Speaker 3>the sort of people who have actually aid Elon Muster.

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<v Speaker 3>The billionaire is and now that they've bought all the Tesselas,

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<v Speaker 3>they can't unbuy them, and they can't sell to anyone

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<v Speaker 3>else because no one else wants to buy them, and

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<v Speaker 3>so they just decided to blow them all up and

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<v Speaker 3>then do that dance. If you want to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>a hate crime pokey thing with all the all the

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<v Speaker 3>pink haired boomers kind of wiggling around with their sandwich board.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a pretty good demonstration that is the mental state.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you know, seeing your mom there, well you might

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<v Speaker 1>do so. But but this business of them going around

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<v Speaker 1>and fire bombing dealerships and just attacking innocent people's cars,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just Dan, We're going to end up with

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<v Speaker 1>someone dead here, Like they are eventually going to get

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong car and it'll have someone in it, or

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<v Speaker 1>someone will be in a dealership later or something, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to kill someone. This is domestic terrorism.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I think that is their aim, not to kill someone,

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<v Speaker 2>but inevitably there's already been people taken to hospital from

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<v Speaker 2>some of these protests. I watched a video just today

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<v Speaker 2>of a woman who was cut off in traffic. Men

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<v Speaker 2>jumped out of the car because she was driving a

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<v Speaker 2>Tesla and she's got all this recorded because she had

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<v Speaker 2>a dash can and this guy's trying to grab her

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<v Speaker 2>through the window. She was rightly, utterly terrified, and of

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<v Speaker 2>course people watching this take place it just like I

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<v Speaker 2>would be mad to drive my Tesla when the temperature.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this hot.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got people cutting them off in traffic, their cars

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<v Speaker 2>going up in flames, They're leaving them in a car park.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just getting your grossery.

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<v Speaker 3>Does come back to the mines to death with their mobility?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it any wonder? Check out this footage from a

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<v Speaker 2>car lot next to PERF car Sorry PERF Airport, which

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<v Speaker 2>was taking by car industry expert Paul Marrick, pointing out

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<v Speaker 2>just how many Teslas are sitting in the car park

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<v Speaker 2>lot and nobody knows what to do with them because

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<v Speaker 2>nobody wants to buy them. You're just asking at the

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<v Speaker 2>moment to have your car either blown up, vandalized, or

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<v Speaker 2>heaven forbid, have a horrific instance like that poor woman

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<v Speaker 2>who was simply innocently driving along and these mugs in

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<v Speaker 2>this car in front of her cut her off and

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<v Speaker 2>decided to take it out on her personally.

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<v Speaker 3>No who drives a Tesla. Chris Bowen. So the next

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<v Speaker 3>time these.

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<v Speaker 1>Vilence, So the next time.

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<v Speaker 3>Some crazy knuckle dragging, violent eco terrorist trot wants to

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<v Speaker 3>attack someone in a tesla, they could be attacking the

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<v Speaker 3>actual climate change minister who is delivering net zero for

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<v Speaker 3>you lazy, no good, dirty footed hippies.

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<v Speaker 1>And who would have thought that it would take this

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<v Speaker 1>to get left wingers to hate electric vehicles, sir, we

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<v Speaker 1>would have done long time ago. And while we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about vehicles, Spah thought for Belinda Lee Rose. She lives

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<v Speaker 1>on the Gold Coast. Her house is currently being renovated,

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<v Speaker 1>so while that's going on, she's been sleeping in her vehicle. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>she says her car was parked on her driveway. I

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<v Speaker 1>suspect it probably was on the part of the driveway

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<v Speaker 1>that includes council land, because the council came along and

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<v Speaker 1>gave her a fine more than eight hundred dollars for

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<v Speaker 1>daring to sleep in her own car outside of her

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<v Speaker 1>own house.

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<v Speaker 9>Here, she is explaining, they issued me with this notice

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<v Speaker 9>and is unlawful camping in a public place, which carries

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<v Speaker 9>an eight hundred and six dollar fine.

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<v Speaker 10>Where was I parked? I'm happy you asked on my

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<v Speaker 10>property in my driveway. Let's not pay attention to the

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<v Speaker 10>fact that I pay over three thousand dollars in council

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<v Speaker 10>rate for my property that I purchased, and not to

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<v Speaker 10>the fact that I pay registration cost and road costs

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<v Speaker 10>for my vehicle to be on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what a joke. Why can't you sleep in

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<v Speaker 1>your own car? Anyway? I understand you might come into

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<v Speaker 1>a problem if you've got you know, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty people all lined up sleeping in their cars and

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<v Speaker 1>turning the local park into an encampment. But that's not

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<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about here. We're talking about one woman

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<v Speaker 1>out the front of her house, which is being renovated,

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping in her car, and some council officer comes knocks

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<v Speaker 1>on the window. She's eight hundred and six dollars thanks now,

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<v Speaker 1>thankfully the Gold Coast Mere Tom Tat has now said

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<v Speaker 1>he's looking into it. Since so there's been public attention

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<v Speaker 1>put on it. But you know, you give some people

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<v Speaker 1>an ounce of power, Liz, and they just take it

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<v Speaker 1>so far they become so overly officious. What makes what is.

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<v Speaker 2>The extra sickening about this is one of her neighbors

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<v Speaker 2>had to have dogged a rim so when they came

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<v Speaker 2>and knocked on her door. She obviously wasn't sleeping in

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<v Speaker 2>the car at that time, but some one had to

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<v Speaker 2>have noticed that she was doing this.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the same person in the WhatsApp.

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<v Speaker 2>Chaselve clearly taken upon themselves to call up the council

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<v Speaker 2>and say, this woman, who obviously isn't homeless, she must

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<v Speaker 2>own the place because she's renoing it for crying out loud.

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<v Speaker 2>So they've taken it upon themselves to call up the

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<v Speaker 2>council and dab in this woman who's simply, in a

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<v Speaker 2>very creative way, trying to get around the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>her house is doing an extensive reno at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And heck, why.

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't you take advantage of your own free accommodation. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like a granny flat, but it's in the front, not

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<v Speaker 2>the back, and mobile.

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<v Speaker 1>Grastead of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the backyard you want for this again? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>if if she was homeless, it would be even worse.

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<v Speaker 3>And I happen to know quite a lot about this

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<v Speaker 3>because one of the things I did to help raise

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<v Speaker 3>money in whares for the Salvos twenty years ago is

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<v Speaker 3>basically the beginning of my relationship with them was I

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<v Speaker 3>slept in the car. It actually belonged to a Salvo's

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<v Speaker 3>worker and he gave me his beat up old car

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<v Speaker 3>and I slept in it for a night and then

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<v Speaker 3>filmed it to show how more and more people are

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<v Speaker 3>living cars because people homeless. People being forced to live

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<v Speaker 3>in their cars is actually one of the fastest growing,

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<v Speaker 3>highest growing areas of homelessness. Is a massive, massive concern,

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<v Speaker 3>and so we did that and generated heaps of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was the biggest story in the Daily Telegraph that day.

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<v Speaker 3>But just since then, I've just been hyper aware of

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<v Speaker 3>the number of people doing it. We said all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a whole bunch in the street where I live,

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<v Speaker 3>basically just down the road. And again people are being

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<v Speaker 3>forced to do this in the middle of the cost

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<v Speaker 3>of living crisis, the idea on public or private land, whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>the idea that a council officer or a council will

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<v Speaker 3>be going around finding people for that. I mean, she's

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<v Speaker 3>I suppose one of the lucky ones in that she's

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<v Speaker 3>renovating her home. But imagine handing out fines to someone

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<v Speaker 3>that can't afford to live anywhere but the front seat

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<v Speaker 3>of their car. I mean that is just consfionable. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean anyone who could go through with doing that and

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<v Speaker 3>not actually, so, hang on a minute, should we really

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<v Speaker 3>be doing this? So hopefully Tom Tait gets the bottom

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<v Speaker 3>of it, puts a broom through the joint and make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that this is never happening anywhere again, because certainly

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<v Speaker 3>the local council where we are actually allows these people

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<v Speaker 3>to live as they live, even protects them and sort

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<v Speaker 3>of moves them on because they were in a flood

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<v Speaker 3>zone for a while. So yeah, it's not perfect. In

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<v Speaker 3>a perfect world they'd be living, wouldn't be living their

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<v Speaker 3>cars at all. But for the love of God, counsels

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<v Speaker 3>should be helping these people, not trying to slap even

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<v Speaker 3>more penalties on them.

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<v Speaker 2>What are they want tent cities like Brisbane?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, if you're not making a nuisance out of yourself,

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 1>why can't you sleep in your own car? I slept

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>in my car once out of necessity because I was

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<v Speaker 1>caught short on a drive from Adelaide to Sydney. It

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 1>was a fee of five hundred by the way I

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 1>got into the passages.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't because he'd knocked over too many Crown lagas well.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I got to I got to Wogga Wogga, and

0:26:58.160 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 1>it was nine o'clock at night, and I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>can't the journey through the Sydney side. Stopped and cracked

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 1>open a bottle of red and in the campground in

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:07.879
<v Speaker 1>Waga Woga, and then climbed into the passenger seat in

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:10.239
<v Speaker 1>the five hundred and wound it back and slept in it.

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you it wasn't terribly comfortable. But this

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 1>is the reality that a lot of people face now

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:16.639
<v Speaker 1>that they have to live in their cars. And if

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:18.879
<v Speaker 1>you're not making a nuisance out of yourself, you should

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:21.120
<v Speaker 1>not be stopped from doing so. I mean, do even

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>think My grandparents had a motor home once, and they

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>came and pulled up at the front of our place

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 1>in Adelaide and stayed the night in the motor home.

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<v Speaker 1>And by doing so, they apparently are committing some sort

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:36.400
<v Speaker 1>of an offense because they're camping at a public place

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:38.920
<v Speaker 1>by sleeping in their vehicle. The idea that that is

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:41.119
<v Speaker 1>illegal in the first place, I just find ridiculous. My

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 1>granddie's did the same. They absolutely loved it.

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 2>They do these massive road trips and come visit mum

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 2>every time she had a baby. I think Grandma before

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:52.879
<v Speaker 2>committing to that custom didn't know Mum intended to have

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 2>seven of us, and so they ended up making a

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 2>lot of troops around Australia while they were based up

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:02.120
<v Speaker 2>in Chi. That's a lot of illegal park indeed, indeed,

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:05.360
<v Speaker 2>but the rules were different back then as they should be.

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.639
<v Speaker 2>Now to France now where in the latest blow to

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 2>European democracy, Marie Lapan, who's leading the polls to win

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 2>the presidency in France in twenty twenty seven, has been

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:22.800
<v Speaker 2>sent to prison for four years. The charge I'm glad

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 2>you asked embezzlement of European Parliament funds on a vast scale.

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Do you believe it?

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 3>While we're about to find out.

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 2>If she is on French TV this morning saying she

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 2>will be appealing this and fighting it all the way.

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:41.479
<v Speaker 1>Zushi Kombatchieva, I'm a fighter.

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 11>I'm not going to let myself be eliminated like that.

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 11>I'm going to pursue every avenue of recourse i can.

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 11>There's a small path. It may be narrow, but it

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 11>does exist. In fact, I'm going to ask in the

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 11>clearest possible way for the appealed decision to be handed down,

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 11>enabling me to consider running in the presidential election. I

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 11>will always stand by the French.

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<v Speaker 2>Go your hardest, Lapen. This is her fourth run for

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 2>the presidency and she's never been doing better in the

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 2>polls than now. Why because one of her biggest stances

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 2>is anti immigration and what does Europe want less of immigration?

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 2>So she's soaring in the polls, her opponents have to

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 2>take her out somehow. And where have we seen this? Well,

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 2>just two weeks ago Romania did the same thing. The

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 2>guy who had won their first round of elections they

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 2>have a very weird system over there, and was looking

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 2>set to win the second round. Well, they just came

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 2>up with some charges against him and he's ruled out

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 2>of running now as well. And didn't we also see

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:48.120
<v Speaker 2>this with the case of one Donald Trump. Yet he

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 2>was elected president with a treasure trove of criminal cases

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 2>hanging over his head, none of it they could get

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 2>to stick. And I bet my bottom dollar the same

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 2>will happen with Leapen. How is it possible that anyone

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 2>actually falls for this? And the troubling thing about this

0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 2>trend of just taking out your political opponents somehow is

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 2>that you're messing with something no democratic system should mess with.

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 2>The Only people who can get rid of an elected

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:24.479
<v Speaker 2>representative because she is already is the people, not your

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.880
<v Speaker 2>political opponents. You start going through your dirty laundry or

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 2>just making it up and trying to find a way

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 2>to eliminate you and therefore to entrench their own power.

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 2>What this does is once people perceive that democracy is

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 2>just a farce and anyone standing up to the current

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 2>system is being arrested and carted off, you're just inviting

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 2>anarchy in your own country.

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, this embezzlement that she's been convicted of is essentially

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 1>that she and others in her party employed staffers in

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 1>the European Parliament and then use those staff as to

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:04.520
<v Speaker 1>work on domestic politics. Ie, they weren't doing much work

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>in the European Parliament. That's what they've called embuslement. We

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>had a case exactly like that in Australia. It's called

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Redshoets in Victoria. Daniel Andrews in opposition. He denied any

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.560
<v Speaker 1>knowledge of it, but his opposition, when he was leading

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>it and was then elected, used parliamentary staff on company

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>time parliamentary time to go out and campaign in Labor Merch.

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>They did it. No one in the Labor Party was

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 1>convicted or charged or anything happened there. And you can't

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>tell me that this is the first time that anyone

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 1>in the history of Europe has employed someone in the

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>European Parliament and then said to them, all, you know,

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 1>we've got a rally on the weekend in France. Can

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>you come along and do some work there instead of

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:52.959
<v Speaker 1>doing work in the European Parliament. This stuff goes on

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>all the time in all facets of politics. Every party

0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>does it in some way, shape or form. But of

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:03.239
<v Speaker 1>course you've got Marine Lapine, You've got a Marine la

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Pine letting.

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 3>The Red Shirts were in the same jurisdiction though like

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 3>at least they were actually operating issue sorry, rather than

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 3>taking money from say New Zealand.

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Or well, France is in euros. But the threat, of

0:32:15.160 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 1>course is that Marine Lapin went from thirty four percent

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 1>of the presidential vote in twenty seventeen to forty one

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 1>point four five percent in twenty twenty two. And in

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>the legislative election they had last year, and maybe this

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>two round thing as well. But in France, in the

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>first round their vote was up fourteen and a half percent,

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>and in the second round it was up eighty, so

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>nineteen point eight percent. So they can see that La

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>pen is a serious political threat and may well win

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>the presidential election in twenty twenty seven. So they've gone, well,

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:46.960
<v Speaker 1>we're just going to take the opportunity to try and

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>take her.

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the thing is, I mean I have no

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:51.959
<v Speaker 3>problem obviously with I mean, elected officials get prosecuted for

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 3>crimes all the time, and that's there's provisions in Australia

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 3>where if you get convicted of a crime I think

0:32:56.600 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 3>that carries more than a one year jail sentence, you're

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 3>automatically disqualified from parts, same as if you're bankrupt, so

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 3>you don't even have to commit a crime. If you're bankrupt,

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 3>you don't allowed to sit in the parliament. But the

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 3>question I always ask is, and the same with Donald Trump,

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 3>I have no idea that I have no doubt that

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 3>he was guilty of the campaign fraud or whatever it

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 3>was he was convicted of. The point is how politically

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 3>stupid it is to do that and to pursue these

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 3>people and to make martyrs of them, because it looks

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 3>like it does look, it makes it look like the

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 3>electorate that firstly, the electorate's never going to believe they're

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 3>guilty anyway, it's believe that they do it. And secondly,

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 3>they're going to believe that they're so powerful and so popular,

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 3>which means makes everyone think that they're on the side

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 3>of right and the side of history. They're going after

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 3>them and the court is the only way to get it.

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 3>So it just strikes me, notwithstanding the legal status of

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 3>any of this, but it just is so politically stupid.

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 3>And you would think after you saw what happened with

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump, and you know, that infamous mugshot and that

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 3>infamous prosecution basically gave him a platform to stand on

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 3>where it didn't really have one, like it really put

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 3>lead in his pencils. Is what he's going to fight for.

0:33:57.280 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 3>This is why I was going to fight the system,

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 3>and they just go and repeat the formula in the US.

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 3>I just wonder in France, I just wonder, like, who's

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 3>running these guys, who's advising them? Certainly not me.

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Seems silly, doesn't it now. I was reading the ABC

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 1>today and you might say, why the hell are you

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 1>doing that? But I do it every now and again

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:16.720
<v Speaker 1>because I think it pays to keep an eye.

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 3>On what the is a subscription to the Saturday paper.

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:23.320
<v Speaker 1>That one was I've got to go for the free version.

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Well it's not free, actually I am paying for it,

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:27.359
<v Speaker 1>so I figure I may as well get some use

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 1>out of it and juno over there. Obviously, I didn't

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 1>have too much to do today or yesterday, and thought, oh,

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 1>what can we do. I'll go and ask an academic

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>whether swearing in front of children is bad. Now the

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:41.840
<v Speaker 1>answer they've come back with is not really according to

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 1>the story, it's is swearing around children isn't bad for them.

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 1>They don't take offense to it, It doesn't cause them any

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 1>psychological harm. But swearing at children, says either commonis can

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 1>be a form of emotional abuse and linked to harmful

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 1>outcomes for some children. She's a clinical psychologist, and I

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>would have thought that is a statement of the bleeding obvious.

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 1>But it was a good excuse, nevertheless, to show you

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 1>this clip out of the UK of a kid who

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 1>is asked at a panto whether their parents ever swear,

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>and well that the kid was rather forthcoming. Have you

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 1>ever used any bad words.

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 3>Like bar or humbug?

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 1>Out of the mouths of babes a bit. It was

0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 1>interesting one.

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 3>Of our bosses for having audience interaction.

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I know that's the best part of pandomas I used

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:41.439
<v Speaker 1>to do pandos years ago back in Adelaide, and there's

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 1>such great fun. They should be everywhere bringing back. But

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:46.880
<v Speaker 1>one of our bosses was saying earlier, you know, is

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 1>that the footy recently with kids around, and it was

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:53.360
<v Speaker 1>all these people swearing and carrying on. And some viewers

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 1>may not know, but I swear like a trooper when

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not on air. I'm not as perfect as you

0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 1>think I actually am. I'm not their shot.

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:05.880
<v Speaker 3>He swears it impeccable English, correct, his properdiction and the

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:08.800
<v Speaker 3>beautiful the high Adelaide access.

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 1>That it works. It just gives it an extra element.

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 1>But but he had to ask people to, you know,

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>not swear so much because there are so many kids around.

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 1>It does raise can you swear around kids or not?

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:23.399
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a matter of opinion. Certainly, in my household,

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 2>swearing we were always taught is a sign of a

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 2>lack of intelligence, because my mum would always be like,

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 2>if peoples properly without using these four letter words, So

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 2>as a kid, I swear I was genuinely like, oh,

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 2>that person stupid.

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:43.320
<v Speaker 3>I can then conficiently confirm that my house is the

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 3>dumbest house in Australia.

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 1>And mine would probably be second dumbest on that front.

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:51.839
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think that's quite so true. After the break,

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 1>we'll get into the paper's shocking story about the school

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 1>in Sydney that is allowing children to opt out of

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>participating in an and why would you wonder why no

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 1>one wants to sign up for the retreat? That's more,

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:14.600
<v Speaker 1>after the break, let's get stuck into the papers. Joe,

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you have the front page of your erstwhile employees.

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 3>I do. Indeed, the Telly's got an absolute cracker of

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 3>a splash tomorrow out of respect. See what they did there.

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.400
<v Speaker 3>Calls for state to step in as school lets kids

0:37:27.560 --> 0:37:31.360
<v Speaker 3>opt out of ANZAC day. A decision by a Sydney

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:34.200
<v Speaker 3>primary school to allow students to opt out of an

0:37:34.239 --> 0:37:38.400
<v Speaker 3>ANZAC service has sparked outrage among parents and veterans, with

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:42.680
<v Speaker 3>calls for the state government to intervene to ensure quote

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 3>the sacrifices of those who served and died are never forgotten.

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Incredible story and just that headline is just fantastic. Out

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 3>of respect. So we need to you know, we need

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:55.800
<v Speaker 3>to pay our respects to the ANZACs, out of respect

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:59.800
<v Speaker 3>to them, but also theols. The school is out of respect.

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 1>They're opting. You're not out of respect, respect of respect.

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 1>It's particulous. So this is the schools in Kellyville. It's

0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 1>called would be more patriot I know Sherwood Ridge Primary School.

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:14.600
<v Speaker 1>But apparently the dealer here is that there's a small

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 1>number of Christian students who belong to a group called

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:22.359
<v Speaker 1>the Exclusive Brethren, and they don't commemorate war, and so

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:25.280
<v Speaker 1>they've been allowed to opt out. I don't care what

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<v Speaker 1>your religion is, what your beliefs are. Anzac Day does

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<v Speaker 1>not commemorate war. It is us giving thanks to people

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<v Speaker 1>who put their lives on the line and also lost

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<v Speaker 1>their lives in defense of our country. That's not to

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<v Speaker 1>commemorate or celebrate war. It's to celebrate human life, is

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<v Speaker 1>it not?

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<v Speaker 2>It is? And look, if you have, if you're Exclusive Brethren,

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<v Speaker 2>just keep your kids home that day. Why are you

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<v Speaker 2>involving the school and school? Why are you letting them

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<v Speaker 2>just say? Look, we're not letting anyone opt out, But

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to keep, you get at home that day.

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<v Speaker 2>It's your kid that's entirely up to you. The fact

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<v Speaker 2>that any leeway has been given with regards to this

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<v Speaker 2>is just absolutely disgusting. How about the state government just

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<v Speaker 2>closed the school down altogether? Because if that is how

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<v Speaker 2>happy you are to have kids in your patch that

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<v Speaker 2>do not recognize our fallen soldiers and respect those who's

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<v Speaker 2>the benefits of their sacrifice you enjoy every single flipping

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<v Speaker 2>day of your life and will until the day you die,

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<v Speaker 2>then sod it.

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<v Speaker 3>Why to opt out of education?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>English because colonial a bit white supremacist.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I'd found a religion that disagreed with maths.

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<v Speaker 3>Maths is racist. Do you know that? Look it up

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<v Speaker 3>and just google art you think I'm joking.

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<v Speaker 2>To the front page of the Mercury Now News, stop

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<v Speaker 2>Search bill debate propose new laws allow police to search

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<v Speaker 2>anyone they suspect might be carrying a knife. Represent a

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<v Speaker 2>quote significant and dangerous increase in police powers end quote,

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<v Speaker 2>The Australian Lawyer's Alliance says, the Police Offenses Amendment knives.

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<v Speaker 2>Another weapons bill was tabled in the House of Assembly

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<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday. The new laws allow police to search people

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<v Speaker 2>in a public place if they reasonably suspect they are

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<v Speaker 2>carrying a knife. It says refusing to be searched is

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<v Speaker 2>grounds for reasonable suspicion, So if you refuse to be searched,

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<v Speaker 2>then you definitely have to be searched. And it also

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<v Speaker 2>raises the penalty for possessing or carrying a knife in

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<v Speaker 2>public to up to two years in jail. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a very interesting one because it inarguably impedes on people's

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<v Speaker 2>well just your right to get around without the police

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<v Speaker 2>coming up to you and being like, well, for whatever reasons,

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<v Speaker 2>we want to search you right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they basically just legislated away the requirement for a

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<v Speaker 1>warrant for any kind of search, because all they need

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<v Speaker 1>to do is say, well, we reasonably suspect you have

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<v Speaker 1>a knife on you, and you'll say, well, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be searched, and then they go, well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>reasonable suspicion, so now we're going out. And then when

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<v Speaker 1>they do it, they may will find not a knife,

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<v Speaker 1>but something else on your person, like drugs or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it might be, and you might say, well, you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be getting around with drugs or a knife. Et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>And I agree you shouldn't be getting around with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But surely if you are to be searched by police,

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<v Speaker 1>they ought to have a warrant to do so.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you kind of think, you know, you could almost

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<v Speaker 3>sort of do an identic picture of the people that

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<v Speaker 3>would just be searching again and again and again and again.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't imagine they'd be searching too many lawyers outside

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<v Speaker 3>the Hobart court House or policy outside the Tasmanian parlut.

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<v Speaker 1>They what if they wanted to look for cocaine.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's right exactly. But yeah, I think it is

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit concerning. I mean, I know there was

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<v Speaker 3>laws proposed in New South Wales. I'm not sure where

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<v Speaker 3>they're at. Where there's just a spate of nice knife

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<v Speaker 3>crime and cops are really struggling to keep up with that.

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<v Speaker 3>And there were cases where it's absolutely obvious to all

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<v Speaker 3>and sundry that kids were up to no good and

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<v Speaker 3>we're packing knives and the cops that we just need

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<v Speaker 3>the powers to be able to stop and search, and

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<v Speaker 3>so you kind of think you need to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>the cops have the power to do what they need

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<v Speaker 3>to do when it's just obvious that you know these

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<v Speaker 3>kids are running in gangs where they're all packing knives.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, do you really want I mean, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>sure what's happening in the bad lands of Hobart. I

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<v Speaker 3>know this this came after a terrible case savving death

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty nineteen. But unless this is an endemic problem

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<v Speaker 3>that no other measure has been able to solve, you

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<v Speaker 3>kind of think It's always said that making laws just

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<v Speaker 3>on the basis of one single example instead of what's

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<v Speaker 3>happening over is often.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it often happens. But and the problem is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you give up one freedom, you give up

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<v Speaker 1>one freedom, you give up one freedom, you give up

0:42:49.960 --> 0:42:52.160
<v Speaker 1>one freedom for the greater good, and then one day

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<v Speaker 1>you wake up with no freedom whatsoever. Unfortunately, Cracking Yan

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<v Speaker 1>on the front of the Herald Sun Tomorrow by Anthony

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:01.720
<v Speaker 1>dowsleaks exclusive He's one of the best in the business

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<v Speaker 1>of the knives.

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<v Speaker 3>There could be a few in this guy's back.

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<v Speaker 1>Top cop gone again. Victoria's acting Chief Commissioner, Rick Nugent

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<v Speaker 1>has sensationally quit the force after just forty one days

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<v Speaker 1>in the top job. The heralds sound can reveal mister

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<v Speaker 1>Newsent informed the Allen government on Tuesday afternoon he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to depart as soon as possible, citing the stress of

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<v Speaker 1>the job. There's also allegations of apparently inappropriate conduct involving

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<v Speaker 1>a conflict of interest during a previous stint as a

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<v Speaker 1>commissioner that have been coming before.

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<v Speaker 3>The iback, didn't you hear, Caleb was the stress of

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<v Speaker 3>the job and it has nothing to do with the

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:42.960
<v Speaker 3>allegations of inappropriate conduct. You know the funny it wouldn't

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:43.840
<v Speaker 3>make the jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>The funny thing here, of course, is that the Allen

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 1>government pushed out the previous commissioner, then they handpicked this

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<v Speaker 1>bloke and then he said, see you later, I'm out

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<v Speaker 1>of here. Things are going really well for the Allen

0:43:57.360 --> 0:43:58.240
<v Speaker 1>government's relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it beats the question what's really going on here

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 2>because we know with these resignations you never get the

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 2>full story, and obviously the assumption is being created or

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 2>it's got something to do with these other allegations. Who

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:13.920
<v Speaker 2>knows if that's true. And yet we know the former

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:17.480
<v Speaker 2>guy was turfed and wasn't too happy about it and

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 2>had his own story. But again you never get told

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:23.919
<v Speaker 2>the full story, but the idea of it wonders what

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<v Speaker 2>is the state of the force that these guys are

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:29.560
<v Speaker 2>just falling Like Domino's.

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<v Speaker 3>The idea that a top cop who's previously served in

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<v Speaker 3>the role suddenly after forty one days. I didn't realize

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 3>how stressful it was going to about. I mean, that

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<v Speaker 3>just does not pass the pub test, and it just

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 3>it's just fascical. Victoria is just a foul state. But

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<v Speaker 3>if we could just look at the picture of the

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<v Speaker 3>guy again, if we could pull up the Herald's Sun

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<v Speaker 3>Harold's on front page again, if we've got it great

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:58.560
<v Speaker 3>to see that Peter Beatty has found life after politics.

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<v Speaker 1>He is actually, if you.

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<v Speaker 3>Squint it, Peter Betty has never been inappropriate.

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:06.440
<v Speaker 1>And look, if it was Peter Betty, you could fully

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<v Speaker 1>understand why he's not getting along wer.

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<v Speaker 3>Right because he's incredibly sensible, the right side of laid pad.

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:15.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm getting the advertiser now we have and we basically

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 3>just did this for the song Don's bad Medicine? Who

0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:25.000
<v Speaker 3>shake it up to sack bad medicine? Albow doesn't vow

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 3>to fight Trump attack on subsidized treatment. Yes, it's another

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 3>unity ticket. Darts has agreed with Albo yet again, Anthony

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:34.000
<v Speaker 3>ALBERDEESI and Peter Darton on a rare Well, it's not

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:36.879
<v Speaker 3>that rare. This is Claire Armstrong actually, so Claire, whatever

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 3>you say is absolutely correct, your Great recorder, on a

0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 3>rare election unity ticket, with both declaring that Australia's medicine

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 3>subsidies and biosecurity protections are not up for debate as

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<v Speaker 3>the threat of Trump administration tariff's loom. So there you go.

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:52.799
<v Speaker 3>Peter Darton backed in the eight point five billion dollar

0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:55.440
<v Speaker 3>medicare package, backed in the one hundred and fifty power cuts,

0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 3>did not back in the tax cuts, but he's backing

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:03.360
<v Speaker 3>the government on not negotiating over the PBS chief medicines.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the pharmaceutical why election again? Good point. I

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:09.440
<v Speaker 1>know the pharmaceutical companies in the US don't like it.

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:12.319
<v Speaker 1>But you know we're just using our collective power to

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:15.080
<v Speaker 1>force them, strong arm them to sell it to us

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:17.200
<v Speaker 1>for a cheaper price, don't I know what?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm set that?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go to a break, shall we. After that,

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 1>we found the answer. We're going to stop everyone from smoking.

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<v Speaker 1>The federal government has done it today. I'll tell you

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:30.400
<v Speaker 1>what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>After this.

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<v Speaker 1>One number you mightn't heard out of the federal budget recently,

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<v Speaker 1>is that the federal government has lost more than fourteen

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 1>billion dollars in the tobacco excise. And that's not because

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 1>everyone's given up smoking. It's because they've all gone to

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the illegal cigarettes, the top chop that you can get

0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 1>for twenty bucks or less inconvenience stores on every corner

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:57.359
<v Speaker 1>in basically every street in this country. People, well, yeah, right,

0:46:57.920 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 1>they will have done that to which is again illegal

0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 1>apparently because you know, why would we have smoking cessation

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:06.800
<v Speaker 1>aids available? But the federal government has found the silver

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:10.440
<v Speaker 1>bullet to get people to stop smoking once and for all.

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 1>So you got past the.

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<v Speaker 3>Packet of it. And if they're losing all that money,

0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 3>shouldn't they be getting them starting smoking again.

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:20.880
<v Speaker 1>It'd be contributing more tax. But you got past the

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:22.880
<v Speaker 1>front of the packet with the gruesome images on it

0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 1>from the warnings, and you got through the years of

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:27.640
<v Speaker 1>being beaten over their head by being treated like a

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:30.360
<v Speaker 1>social leper because you're a smoker, and all the education

0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:32.680
<v Speaker 1>you got at school, you got all of that, got

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 1>past all that. So they're going to smoke anyway. I know.

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 1>It's bad for my health. Well, they found the way

0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:38.279
<v Speaker 1>to get you to stop. They're going to print the

0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 1>warning on the cigarette itself. Yes, they're writing on the

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:45.440
<v Speaker 1>cigarettes the messages toxic addiction, poisons in every puff, causes

0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:49.400
<v Speaker 1>sixteen cancers, damages your lungs, damages DNA. Who is this harming?

0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:51.120
<v Speaker 1>What is this costing you? I thought that was a

0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:54.879
<v Speaker 1>gambling message and shortens your life. But of course, if

0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:57.279
<v Speaker 1>you're buying the illegal cigarettes, as everyone now is, and

0:47:57.320 --> 0:48:00.239
<v Speaker 1>that's why the federal government's losing money, Liz, you don't

0:48:00.239 --> 0:48:02.240
<v Speaker 1>get subjected to those messages.

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:03.520
<v Speaker 3>So the legal ones are good for you then present.

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:07.239
<v Speaker 1>We're not saying they're good for you. But it's just

0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:08.600
<v Speaker 1>so stupid, isn't it.

0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:13.879
<v Speaker 2>Indeed, Well, next month, Kamala Harris is coming to Australia. Yes,

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:16.880
<v Speaker 2>she's going to be speaking at a real estate conference

0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 2>on the Gold Coast. These Australasian real estate conference organizers

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:27.400
<v Speaker 2>have hailed her as quote a trailblazer end quote. I

0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:29.799
<v Speaker 2>can't wait to see what this woman is going to

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:32.600
<v Speaker 2>contribute to us, these real estate people in the middle

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:35.640
<v Speaker 2>of the cost of living crisis, are housing crisis. What

0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:38.840
<v Speaker 2>are her pearls of wisdom? Going to be from this

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 2>arterly failed politician who couldn't even flip a single county

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:45.840
<v Speaker 2>in the presidential election. Here she is, she's going to

0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:46.640
<v Speaker 2>give us advice.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe, I remember when this was first point out to

0:48:48.920 --> 0:48:50.120
<v Speaker 3>me a couple that I said, this has got to

0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:52.640
<v Speaker 3>be fake. There is no way. This is just beyond satire.

0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:55.239
<v Speaker 3>Like the best gig she can get is a real

0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:59.280
<v Speaker 3>estate convention on the Gold Coast, right, okay, And I'm.

0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Not sure whether that proves that the real estate convention

0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:05.359
<v Speaker 1>is paying her way too much money or that they

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:07.479
<v Speaker 1>don't have a lot of money. And that's the best

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:11.520
<v Speaker 1>she can get a comment pay for who knows? It

0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 1>is extraordinary? Take advice from here. That's it. From us

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<v Speaker 1>to night, up next to the reader, panic