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Speaker 1: Sitsy and with her with Kate Ritchie podcast Breaking News

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Speaker 1: over the weekend. Matthew Perry very very sad news.

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Speaker 2: Very sad news. I think it's what everyone was talking about.

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Speaker 2: Of course, he played what some are saying is one

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Speaker 2: of the greatest you know, comedic Yeah, yeah, characters of

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Speaker 2: all time Chandler bing on Friends. I'm not sure how

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Speaker 2: many episodes were there in Friends.

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Speaker 1: Tommy, you across that like a series? Oh yeah, how

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Speaker 1: many episodes?

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Speaker 3: Two hundred and thirty six episodes.

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Speaker 1: Fascinating about Friends, though, too is to see when they

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Speaker 1: started running it on the streaming services, the amount of

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Speaker 1: people that picked it up and said, hey, what's this

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Speaker 1: amazing show? Friends?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that like a second generation.

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Speaker 1: Generation shows amazing.

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Speaker 2: And I think we were just talking to somebody on

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Speaker 2: the on the phone when we opened the lines just

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Speaker 2: after six o'clock, and as she said, it was it

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Speaker 2: was kind of like it represented a lot of people's

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Speaker 2: childhoods or their early twenties, you know, the storyline of

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Speaker 2: all of those friends hanging out, falling in love, growing

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Speaker 2: up together. I guess there are a lot of people

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Speaker 2: who would have felt as though they'd grown up with

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Speaker 2: these characters.

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Speaker 3: As well.

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Speaker 2: But yes, of course the news over the weekend that

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Speaker 2: Matthew Perry was found at his home in La his parents,

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Speaker 2: who I didn't realize they they were arriving of course

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Speaker 2: the house surrounded by paparazzi, So even though mum and

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Speaker 2: and the amount of people who have come out just

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Speaker 2: saying wonderful things about him, talking about his struggles and

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Speaker 2: how brave he was because he was very open about

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Speaker 2: his addiction issues. Even Adele. I think we've got some

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Speaker 2: audio of hers. She's in Vegas over the weekend at

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Speaker 2: her concert, dressed as more Tishie Adams or something because

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Speaker 2: it was Halloween. She had this to say about him.

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Speaker 3: This is why I'm so strange that I never met

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Speaker 3: him in my life.

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Speaker 1: So I've done with his struggles with a shich I think.

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Speaker 2: Is incredibly, incredibly brain and yeah, how.

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Speaker 1: Much I love what it is.

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Speaker 3: And then she dedicated her song When we Were Young

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize, so just to get the story or

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Speaker 1: the understanding of what took place, he'd been playing pickleball

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Speaker 1: right which I'm just starting to learn about pickleball. But

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Speaker 1: I had to ask you what that was you did.

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Speaker 1: We had to chat about pickleball this morning, and then

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Speaker 1: I realized it's the fastest growing sport in the States.

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Speaker 1: And so he'd played two hours of pickleball, gone home,

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Speaker 1: hopped in the hot tub. Yes, as such, But then Tommy,

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Speaker 3: Run errands for a couple of hours.

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Speaker 1: So he could have passed away in the hot tub

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize too. And watching the project last night,

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Speaker 1: And then in twenty nineteen he had a two percent

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Speaker 1: I mentioned at the start of the show that quote

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Speaker 1: Oh sorry last year when it came out, very sad.

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Speaker 1: But for the friends fans, you're right, Kate Richie, I

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Speaker 2: Young, found over the weekend in his home. We were

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Speaker 2: He'd also played which I didn't even know what it was, pickleball.

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Speaker 2: He'd been on the court for two hours, come home,

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Speaker 2: It was very brave and coming out talking about his

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Speaker 2: For some reason, obviously because I was on friends, more

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Speaker 1: Interesting to read that in twenty nineteen, due to his

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Speaker 1: He's had fourteen operations due to the addiction that he had.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it is, But I also think that

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Speaker 2: You know, battles with mental health or addiction aren't aren't

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Speaker 2: to help help others. But yeah, I don't know. That

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Speaker 2: Too, well, someone like Matthew Perry who has had his

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure when Friends started, but I think

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Speaker 1: So do you to hit that kind of public ownership, Yeah.

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