Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to another edition of the Daily Telegraph and podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm Michael Carryanas and looks like this is the new
Speaker 1: rotation for now. Brenery David Ricky, you guys are pulling
Speaker 1: the rank and demanding we should do You guys haven't
Speaker 1: been paid for your appearances.
Speaker 2: Time moves on, Buzz, time moves on. For all people.
Speaker 2: The only pony you can never beat is father time Buzz.
Speaker 3: Unless you're Wayne Bennett.
Speaker 2: Well that's true. A good point here.
Speaker 1: Speaking of coaches, a bit dramatic this week, Brad Arthur out,
Speaker 1: Trent Barrett in in the short term, and then a
Speaker 1: fair bit of conjecture over who the next Paramattic coach is.
Speaker 1: I think we've all had our say on the Paramatta
Speaker 1: situation and the way they've handled it, and Brad Artha
Speaker 1: no longer the coach.
Speaker 3: But let's throw forward a little bit, guys, Dave, who are.
Speaker 1: Some of the potential candidates to take over from the
Speaker 1: Eels at the end of the season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, we can rattle off twenty seven names, all right,
Speaker 4: but this is the only little thing that concerns me
Speaker 4: with Paramatta. A lot of coaches out there they actually
Speaker 4: don't like going through an interview process and sitting down
Speaker 4: and getting the whiteboard out and the PowerPoint presentation on
Speaker 4: why I should be the coach of Paramatta. A lot
Speaker 4: of the good clubs identify who they want and go
Speaker 4: hard at him, which Paramatta did do to be fair
Speaker 4: with Wayne Bennett. But second to that, now it seems
Speaker 4: as though they're going to go through this vast process
Speaker 4: of trying to identify their next coach. And I just
Speaker 4: got a little bit of concerns over that.
Speaker 1: Can I just say about that, out of the guys
Speaker 1: that are there, how many of them deserve the right
Speaker 1: not to be interviewed.
Speaker 4: Well, again, the Paramatta club need to know what they want,
Speaker 4: what they stand for, what the vision they see, and
Speaker 4: which coach has the resume that they already know.
Speaker 3: You're telling me you can't do background checks on every car.
Speaker 1: I think the only one that they could slide into
Speaker 1: straight away with Michael Maguire.
Speaker 2: Always said, Billy, he's not going to do it.
Speaker 3: I still think you need to speak, you still need.
Speaker 2: You still need to gage, You're not going to Billy
Speaker 2: won't do it. If you just say Billy, just say
Speaker 2: Billy is interesting, he won't be Just say is he's
Speaker 2: not going to do an interview presser.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying to sit down and do an interview
Speaker 1: press speak to I don't think. I don't think ma won't.
Speaker 2: I don't think is so desperate for.
Speaker 3: I don't think he would mate. But I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think Michael mcgwid needs to do one. Okay,
Speaker 1: I reckon the rest of them, and probably Billy or
Speaker 1: I'll conceive Billy. But I think if we're talking about Jason,
Speaker 1: because Jason Rowles, the first question I'd be sitting there
Speaker 1: and asking him is why didn't you go to the Dragons, right,
Speaker 1: because they are reports that, you know, they need to
Speaker 1: know that that answer. If it's Josh Hannah, if it's
Speaker 1: whoever the case may be. I think the rest of
Speaker 1: them need to have They need to they need to
Speaker 1: interview judgment. I just hope that within the walls of
Speaker 1: the Eels that they've nailed their search down to three guys,
Speaker 1: because we've got a list of about twelve, right, I
Speaker 1: just hope they've nailed down to three like Saints did.
Speaker 3: Saints had really only roles Flannigan.
Speaker 4: Hornby, Yeah, and they kept that young and doing young.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: They kept it pretty tight. Yeah, and those they whittled
Speaker 4: the other two away pretty quickly. Cronulla knew they wanted
Speaker 4: Craig Fitzgibbon went and got him. And I just think
Speaker 4: that's when you know what you want as a footy
Speaker 4: club and what you meant like trying to work out
Speaker 4: what you want as a club depending on the coach,
Speaker 4: it's backward.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a There's not a Craig fits
Speaker 2: given there though now everyone there's not a Camin Sireldo
Speaker 2: there right now. Roles is the closest things I agree.
Speaker 2: Why why aren't you the coach of the Dragons control
Speaker 2: a massive left field?
Speaker 3: Is it massive left field or the reason left going?
Speaker 2: I'd be chasing Mick Checker. He wants the job, he
Speaker 2: wants to coach therell He's got relationships with some of
Speaker 2: those players, notably Mitch Moses. If he coached with Lebanon,
Speaker 2: has a great relationship with him. He's an amazing man manager.
Speaker 2: He's an authoritarian, which that club. I think we all
Speaker 2: acknowledge needs someone with a strong hand to control that
Speaker 2: playing group. Now. I think he needs to write coaches
Speaker 2: with him. I think that's if he can come to
Speaker 2: you with a package and say, Okay, I want the job.
Speaker 2: I've got Josh Hannay going to do it with me,
Speaker 2: or Matt King, Matt kan Ros or people like that.
Speaker 2: I think you've got to take him really, really seriously.
Speaker 1: I'm I would be so intrigued check if I'm in Paramount.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've got the guts to do it.
Speaker 1: If I'm being honest right like, I just don't know.
Speaker 1: If to sit here and say yeah, I would, I
Speaker 1: would full.
Speaker 3: Support it.
Speaker 1: I'd say I think Michael Checker because as you said,
Speaker 1: I think they need that guy that's going to get
Speaker 1: the best out of this playing group and connect with
Speaker 1: the senior players, and the senior players only have a
Speaker 1: short life, right Paramatt aside from probably Mitch's probably still playing.
Speaker 1: You know, he's at the top of the top of
Speaker 1: his game and probably has four or five years potentially left.
Speaker 1: The more I think about it, the more I would
Speaker 1: love to see Michael Checker as head coach of Paramatta,
Speaker 1: with the caveat that he's got two young football head
Speaker 1: assistant coaches or three, whatever the case may be, and
Speaker 1: they do thet they do the hands on and I
Speaker 1: think we You know, Michael check is not clueless on
Speaker 1: rugby league. Michael Checker will have his thoughts on the game,
Speaker 1: and we'll be able to read the game and understand
Speaker 1: the game. Some of the technical elements of the game,
Speaker 1: the fine tuning elements, that's what he will need to
Speaker 1: support with. But you know he won't be less hands
Speaker 1: on the WAYN Bennett's.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, it's a bit like WAYN Bennett, right.
Speaker 2: People tell you Wayne.
Speaker 4: Benner Bennett fans, if you are listening, if you are.
Speaker 2: Watching, I'm going you don't want hear.
Speaker 4: We've got to say, fans, if you are driving off
Speaker 4: the road, if you are about to like seriously throw
Speaker 4: this your AirPods into the bin listening to this rubbish
Speaker 4: about Michael Checker taking over Paramatta.
Speaker 3: I'm with you, I'm coming with you. How you can
Speaker 3: compare Michael Checker to Wayne.
Speaker 2: If you let me finish? Can you let me finish?
Speaker 2: Because people say that Wayne isn't the most technically gifted
Speaker 2: coach when it comes comes to ext's and nose, But
Speaker 2: what he is the very good man manager who has
Speaker 2: the right people around him. That's the comparison with Wayne Bennett.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's won seven Premierships. He hasn't. But
Speaker 2: he's been a great coach in rugby and he's a
Speaker 2: great man manager. I'm like, whilst he may not have
Speaker 2: the technical now so the game down path basically he
Speaker 2: surrounds himself with the right people, which he did with Lebanon,
Speaker 2: did a great job at Levan in the World Cup
Speaker 2: and again I'm not saying that's the NRL.
Speaker 3: And has worked at the roosters.
Speaker 2: Too, to the roost of the Robber rob doesn't, so
Speaker 2: this show does clearly.
Speaker 4: So you want Paramatta right, For the first time in
Speaker 4: eleven years, they have an opportunity to turn the page
Speaker 4: on the entire it's a club defining the decision this right,
Speaker 4: You want to gamble on a guy, correct? So long
Speaker 4: on a guy that's never coached in the NRL, so
Speaker 4: long as he's got the right support staff around.
Speaker 2: Him, Yes, correct, Yes, ludicrous.
Speaker 1: How many of those guys they're talking about coach? What
Speaker 1: you're saying is you don't know if you can coach
Speaker 1: because he needs the right who's.
Speaker 2: The laydown with their coach? Who do you want to
Speaker 2: give it to you?
Speaker 4: I'd like to go with someone who actually had who
Speaker 4: has been building a regionary coach.
Speaker 3: With Jason Royles, Josh had A, Michael Maguire.
Speaker 2: Are they any less risk than Mick Checker.
Speaker 3: No, they're not. So what's the problem, Well, sorry, yes
Speaker 3: they are. Yes, Well I'm convoluted voting Michael Checker, yes, checking,
Speaker 3: And I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm cheering it on because I'm
Speaker 1: so intrigued cheering the story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I always cheer the story, though, I do feel
Speaker 3: like paramountal fans want actual results. I think he could.
Speaker 1: I think you can get it. I think he could
Speaker 1: whip that plane group into shape. I think about the
Speaker 1: plane commander. The playing group is going to get ripped
Speaker 1: apart no matter what what, automatically, you know what will be.
Speaker 2: Who you're saying, who's gone name names, Well.
Speaker 3: I've already said it previously.
Speaker 4: The cap is too top heavy in the forward pack,
Speaker 4: They're outside backs are thin.
Speaker 3: They've got a fullback that's aging and injury prone.
Speaker 2: Left this deal.
Speaker 3: I think he's got twelve months, doesn't he twenty five?
Speaker 2: Okay, probably he's probably depending on how he goes and
Speaker 2: then moving to the centers.
Speaker 3: And yeah, look, I don't like checker at all.
Speaker 4: Hush as a person, a person, as an applicant, I
Speaker 4: look for this club.
Speaker 3: Perhaps I don't have to know this dicasion.
Speaker 2: What a story, a story.
Speaker 3: Let's make it happen.
Speaker 2: Come on, come on, Jim and Sewan, make it happen.
Speaker 3: Boys, they may listen.
Speaker 2: The bankers, Come on the banker, Wayne, he's even a
Speaker 2: banker anymore either. These retired to Baker. He was to
Speaker 2: work in a bank.
Speaker 1: A great just on movements at clubs, is I popularly
Speaker 1: here last twenty four hours that that's moved pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: We had the story yesterday that he was on the
Speaker 1: open market, and the day this morning you broke the
Speaker 1: back that he was going to your yesterday today.
Speaker 4: What's sunny was that this this the agreement to allow
Speaker 4: him to negotiate with rival clubs, happened a month ago.
Speaker 3: From the West Tiger's point.
Speaker 2: Of view, one no one let it out. I spoke
Speaker 2: to CEO this morning. You see, we got off three
Speaker 2: majors ago. I said, what do you tell me?
Speaker 1: I was filthy, But that's eventually how it did come out.
Speaker 3: This signing.
Speaker 2: I'm not sold on. I think he's I think he's
Speaker 2: been really poor at the Tigers. He was outstanding at
Speaker 2: Tobe this career. I understand it.
Speaker 3: It was a poor decision to go there.
Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I don't not convinced Bote well.
Speaker 1: I think the fact that you know he's been playing
Speaker 1: at Paramatta, He's spent large of that time playing outside
Speaker 1: Mitchell Moses, which helped him. The Tigers have been chopping
Speaker 1: and changing, haven't had any continuity signed under Michael McGuire.
Speaker 3: I have got an opportunity to play under Michael.
Speaker 2: Maguire and Jerome Lure if he stayed.
Speaker 1: There potentially, but now he might play outside Nathan Cleary
Speaker 1: or Jack Cole, you know, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 1: I think it's a good signing for for Penrith. I
Speaker 1: think it's a massive win for pup Lea to go
Speaker 1: from the West Tigers to to Penrith.
Speaker 3: On the fact that.
Speaker 2: We's going to a contender.
Speaker 3: He's gone to a contend.
Speaker 1: Another twelve months left on his deal. He's got a
Speaker 1: three deal, so he got two extra years. I'm assuming
Speaker 1: on roughly the same amount of money that he's on
Speaker 1: and he's on what do you say he's on reading
Speaker 1: seven fifty next season?
Speaker 2: The Tigers have all floated that and arm chipping in
Speaker 2: it's not a bad deal for the Tigers either, because
Speaker 2: they need to.
Speaker 3: All the Tigers fans that have reached out to me.
Speaker 2: So they don't can't loving It was the reaction on
Speaker 2: Twitter yesterday when we put the story out, Meck, it
Speaker 2: was Tigers fans giving it to us for saying it's
Speaker 2: a loss that that that he was about to walk out.
Speaker 2: They were saying, Look, the point is we've let him
Speaker 2: go and we're happy about it.
Speaker 1: With that amount of money and I'm not sure how
Speaker 1: much the Tigers' assumed, but it only be fair a
Speaker 1: little bit for potentially one year because then you had
Speaker 1: twelve months left on his deal.
Speaker 4: But the biggest question, if I'm a Tigers fan is
Speaker 4: why why haven't the Tigers coaching staff and sister been
Speaker 4: able to get the best out of Isaiah Poppelli of
Speaker 4: which we saw at Paramatta. And look, I think maybe
Speaker 4: you're right there's a factor of those halves not being
Speaker 4: as quality as what Mitch Moses is, but I wouldn't
Speaker 4: direct my if I'm a Tigers fan, I'm questioning the
Speaker 4: bigger picture here.
Speaker 3: Why why has a he was outstanding.
Speaker 4: Did you not get Dalli? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Para.
Speaker 4: I just honestly form has been on a slippery ever since.
Speaker 2: But how many players have gone to that club and
Speaker 2: got maintained this standard or got better? Maybe Uppy definitely, Yeah,
Speaker 2: anybody else?
Speaker 3: Pup was the only twenty five?
Speaker 2: Yeah, then we forget surprised.
Speaker 1: He's only twenty five, So I couldn't believe Up going
Speaker 1: to that Penrish system.
Speaker 4: I think that's a great same what does what back
Speaker 4: rowers can get out of their careers at Penrith. And
Speaker 4: it is interesting the fact that Penriths seen hell ben
Speaker 4: on getting a back rower. With James Fisher Harris going obviously,
Speaker 4: that means that either Scott Sorenson or Leam Martin whill
Speaker 4: transition into the middle with Linday Si.
Speaker 1: Maybe but not a top end right now. They've obviously identified.
Speaker 1: They went for David for feeder and now signed Papa Lee.
Speaker 1: I think it's a I think it's a great sign
Speaker 1: for Penrith and interesting for the Tigers because you're losing
Speaker 1: a guy's still got tremendous upside, but it doesn't look
Speaker 1: like he's the only one that might be out of
Speaker 1: the Tigers at the end of the season in the
Speaker 1: UK's rising.
Speaker 2: A bit of selling and buying if you can.
Speaker 4: So can you just tell Tigers fans what's about to
Speaker 4: happen at their club?
Speaker 3: Is it about to get ripped apart again?
Speaker 2: It's about to get gutted?
Speaker 3: Ye oh my god, here we go again. Well, I
Speaker 3: mean the trajectory was.
Speaker 2: Some of them are logical, right, I mean, Jerome Lloyd
Speaker 2: comes next year. They've got a lot too funny, young
Speaker 2: young kid going to be something, they think, But he's
Speaker 2: had hamstring problems. They've got Lucky Galvin, and they've got
Speaker 2: Bud Sullivan. They don't need them all. Bud's on huge money,
Speaker 2: hasn't performed, They're going to try and move him. That's logical, right,
Speaker 2: Brent Naden, What.
Speaker 3: Do you mean he hasn't Bud hasn't performed.
Speaker 4: I mean, I agree with you, hasn't before. But has
Speaker 4: he been given the opportunity of which he was promised?
Speaker 2: He's been given the chance?
Speaker 3: Sullivan. Yeah, he's a terrible boy.
Speaker 4: He's a terrible Who was the head coach there at
Speaker 4: the time when that was Benji and Scott fall right?
Speaker 3: So what's happen there with Benji and Jordan.
Speaker 1: They obviously thought Lucky Gallons probably kicked quickly. I think
Speaker 1: they always thought that Lucky Gallen was going to be
Speaker 1: a good player, but he's probably kicked a bit sooner.
Speaker 2: I think there was also a theory Locky gall of
Speaker 2: my transition to the back row or lock or an
Speaker 2: or an edge forward. But he wants to play six,
Speaker 2: I believe.
Speaker 3: So that's a big money deal. Half a million dollars
Speaker 3: for Sullivan on four years. Disagreeing with it, but the coach.
Speaker 4: Is currently there at this moment in time signed him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but on the advice of someone who isn't there
Speaker 2: still right, who played a big part of that deal.
Speaker 2: We all know he did. Yeah, play a huge part
Speaker 2: of that deal. He's not there. You are you clear,
Speaker 2: just say you're gonna have to chip in some money
Speaker 2: for Bud Sullivan. So they walk away three hundred green
Speaker 2: out of that seven hundred out of Papa, there's some
Speaker 2: a million dollars. Then you move Nayden, potentially Charlie Staines.
Speaker 2: There's probably another half of men, and you've got one
Speaker 2: point five million dollars to play. And you've got to
Speaker 2: remember that the simmering issue in the background. Is Stefano
Speaker 2: you toy Kmano. They have to Their plans are to
Speaker 2: put a huge deal in front of him. It hasn't
Speaker 2: happened yet as I understand it. They were going to
Speaker 2: do it before rich I went to the UK. He
Speaker 2: hasn't done well. I think you'll go to market. I
Speaker 2: think we all assume he did.
Speaker 3: But they've got to put on the show last week.
Speaker 3: Do you think you'll go. I agree with you, you'll go.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they've got to put enough money in Well,
Speaker 2: they're going to try and put enough money in front
Speaker 2: of him that convinces him to stuff.
Speaker 1: It seems like, well, the Tigers won't play finals for you.
Speaker 1: I had a few questions about this. He's unlikely to
Speaker 1: play Game one of origin.
Speaker 4: I don't think the understanding is several front rollers need
Speaker 4: to fall over injured for Stefano to get a Blues.
Speaker 1: Jersey, So that means that he'll be on the open
Speaker 1: market at some point out of finals.
Speaker 3: Content we're talking could be soon. Well, I'll be like two.
Speaker 1: I know that they're out, but they technically have to
Speaker 1: do mathematically, so that's going to be an interesting development.
Speaker 2: Over and he'll go straight out, they'll go straight to market,
Speaker 2: start looking because as Dave noted, I don't think he's
Speaker 2: going to sign even if they put a mega extension.
Speaker 3: If they lose Ye Stefano.
Speaker 1: There's some suggestion that Bateman's been shopped. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's true or not. The English press have sort
Speaker 1: of picked up on that over there, and we all
Speaker 1: know that there's not a lot on the player market.
Speaker 2: Well, there's obviously players in what you've got to what
Speaker 2: you got to hope for.
Speaker 4: If you're one of those struggling clubs, the Tigers of
Speaker 4: the Dragons. When I'm looking for roster changes that with
Speaker 4: the coaches change of South's and Paramatta, there's some player
Speaker 4: movement there because.
Speaker 3: The next coach coming in, like Wayne's going to shake
Speaker 3: up the South roster.
Speaker 2: Are you going to take from South? Wayne to let
Speaker 2: go looks realistically, who the mate.
Speaker 4: You might have might have to if you're tapping these guys,
Speaker 4: they might have to take something.
Speaker 3: He's not there. And then Stefano walks out the.
Speaker 2: Door, happy went there and playing outstanding football. He's going
Speaker 2: to potentially lose his front rawer and.
Speaker 4: What about sorry Hals went forward?
Speaker 1: So that is interesting but they must have We know
Speaker 1: Richard doesn't sit on his hands right, so they must
Speaker 1: have something else. Brilliant knowing that they were so.
Speaker 2: Was they're clearing money for something something aside from Stefano,
Speaker 2: something else on his radar.
Speaker 3: Which we're going from the South day.
Speaker 2: Maybe satell to Panuur.
Speaker 3: Good players solving their problems there help.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think the top roosts are very confident Angus.
Speaker 4: Angus has played seven good games in two years.
Speaker 3: It was last year, but the year before that.
Speaker 2: Interesting. If the Tiger's suddenly thrown nine hundred grand at him,
Speaker 2: how that impacts things?
Speaker 3: That's a big money offer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, too much? Yeah, you've got to get him away
Speaker 2: for the Roosters.
Speaker 3: Yeah nine hundred?
Speaker 2: Have you eight hundred?
Speaker 3: But hang on, I don't think the Roosters will go
Speaker 3: to that.
Speaker 2: I'm saying you've got.
Speaker 3: To I think the Roosters will go to that.
Speaker 2: What do you reckon the six fifty from seven eight fifty? Yep,
Speaker 2: make you make a decision.
Speaker 1: Yeap hangers Crichton. We think you'll be there for New
Speaker 1: South Wales game one. Let's turn our attention to the
Speaker 1: Origin side, which will be announced on Sunday, Dave at
Speaker 1: this stage, maybe some crisis, maybe Monday in crisis Sunday night.
Speaker 1: The players on that this has been the most difficult side,
Speaker 1: trying to unpack this side. Who or may and there's
Speaker 1: lots of unknowns, right yeah, because Nathan, you know Nathan
Speaker 1: clearly Lockett seven, you know what I mean. And you
Speaker 1: know Bradman Best probably would have been the center, or
Speaker 1: Tommy Turboy would have been the center, whatever the case.
Speaker 3: May Camp Murray would have been in the team. So
Speaker 3: there's all these blacks.
Speaker 1: There's a half a dozen blokes that you knew were
Speaker 1: locked that suddenly.
Speaker 2: Call it across, you can call it whatever you like.
Speaker 2: They are ready swimming either cruising series can just about
Speaker 2: to pick your team now.
Speaker 1: Michael McGuire coaches, Bet you can't as Michael, there's Michael
Speaker 1: Checker coaching you.
Speaker 4: Sounds well, I like that.
Speaker 3: Where's Darren Coleman assistant?
Speaker 1: What else is Darren Coleman? Get to mention in this podcast?
Speaker 1: So let's go not who we think will be picked.
Speaker 1: Let's put selector's hat on for the Blues full back, Dave,
Speaker 1: who's your fullback?
Speaker 3: I'll stick with Teddy. I'll stick with Teddy.
Speaker 4: On the basis that Michael mcguian needs leaders to start
Speaker 4: his first Origin camp. He needs Origin players that know
Speaker 4: what it's all about. With no Nathan Cleary, I go
Speaker 4: with the leader and Teddy.
Speaker 2: I don't even believe this is being debated. New South
Speaker 2: Wales Australian captain always twenty two games in a row.
Speaker 2: Her the other night didn't realize that. I can believe
Speaker 2: it's okay, well, it's not you, it's me. We're talking
Speaker 2: about me. I can't believe he should be the first
Speaker 2: black picked, because he should be.
Speaker 4: I cannot preface my selection in saying that Dylan Edwards
Speaker 4: is like, seriously right in the frame as well.
Speaker 2: It should be. It's Teddy deserves a right to start
Speaker 2: the series. They lose came one right, Yeah, I agree
Speaker 2: with that, thank you, unless he comes up with a
Speaker 2: ridiculously good performances losing side.
Speaker 3: But yeah, well I'm agreeing with him in the pinion.
Speaker 2: Okay, Teddy, Yeah, reading animus on MS. Okay, let's pick
Speaker 2: a side and the majority gets majority majority of rules.
Speaker 2: That's how close we are. Okay, fair two positions, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you take over, chill, thank you? What about your wingers?
Speaker 2: I think wing its interesting wingers slightly to Limax Senners. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm going with Trell. I've come around
Speaker 2: to Latrell. I think it's quieton on Latrell. I think
Speaker 2: Latrell needs to be in the team because I'm a
Speaker 2: Queenslander and I hate to give a lage advice. But
Speaker 2: if I'm a Queen's lander, if you're going to say
Speaker 2: to me with your rather face, Jesse Ramian or Latrell Mitchell,
Speaker 2: I would say to give me Jesse Ramion every day
Speaker 2: of the week. Latrell scares me more than Jesse, as
Speaker 2: good as Jesse has been going. So I hope you
Speaker 2: picked Jesse Raymian. Ignore la Trell. No disrespect for Jesse,
Speaker 2: who's a good player and been going well. But we're
Speaker 2: talking about Latrell Mitchell. You picked Latrell and he hasn't
Speaker 2: been going.
Speaker 3: He played in the center since when.
Speaker 2: So what we're gonna You're gonna pick Tommy.
Speaker 3: That doesn't bother me that he hasn't played and he
Speaker 3: going that bad? Fair enough? That was that was That
Speaker 3: was a meek shot. Listen that here we have here,
Speaker 3: we have here, we have a.
Speaker 4: Coach that wants the spirit of New South Wales to
Speaker 4: drive their their ambition throughout this series and like it
Speaker 4: or not, a few weeks ago, articles begin to began
Speaker 4: to emerge that Latrell is considering out sitting out state
Speaker 4: of Origin.
Speaker 2: Was ever quite No, he wasn't okay, But my understanding in.
Speaker 3: The game long enough to understand was what.
Speaker 2: He said was I want to focus on South Sydney,
Speaker 2: nothing about Origin, and that became his contemplating city out origin.
Speaker 4: So war if if if I'm so desperate to play
Speaker 4: for New South Wales and a story like that emerges,
Speaker 4: I would be so peeved off because I'm desperate to
Speaker 4: play for the Blues. I love the Blues. I want
Speaker 4: to be there for you, mate. I want to run
Speaker 4: through a brick wall. The time the story emerges to
Speaker 4: the complete opposite to that, and we hear nothing at
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 2: Day the time Dave was a big.
Speaker 3: Trail to come out and say, hey, listen, I'm all
Speaker 3: in for Madge.
Speaker 2: It becomes what I think La Troll doesn't want a
Speaker 2: screaming back page that says I'm in for New South Wales.
Speaker 2: And suddenly there's a pylon, which there would be because
Speaker 2: it's the Troll.
Speaker 3: I think you are.
Speaker 2: Smart.
Speaker 3: Simple question of the press conference. The troil has made
Speaker 3: some conjecture, and.
Speaker 2: What wouldn't the trail picked up the phone.
Speaker 3: That's what I would that's Thursday and picked on Sunday. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's what I happened already. Well, that's I would have done.
Speaker 2: That if I'm maybe he doesn't feel he should.
Speaker 1: Because I'm sure you know if you need me, I'll
Speaker 1: be ready. That's what you need to do. I don't
Speaker 1: think that would be here.
Speaker 3: On the X Factor.
Speaker 4: Here on the X Factor Halves, Dave and Nika Hein.
Speaker 2: I was going, I changed my mind today because I've
Speaker 2: got on Latrell. So I'm going with Cody in.
Speaker 3: Winning South indiy combination.
Speaker 2: So good, just real quickly, last year, do we forget.
Speaker 3: I'm just going to take a left hand turn at
Speaker 3: the round about it.
Speaker 4: What about this spine of South Sydney this weekend is
Speaker 4: Cody White and Yeah Cook Latrell in another time. That's
Speaker 4: a state of origin spine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's almost an Australian spine. Only what he's doing
Speaker 1: only Cody hasn't played for Australia responsibility.
Speaker 3: Playing Let's.
Speaker 4: Check Walker Walker Walker Whitton Cook Mitchell good spine.
Speaker 2: What else we've got any other contentious positions?
Speaker 3: Let's look at Queensland?
Speaker 2: Why not Picky?
Speaker 3: Is there any contentious ones that Do you pick Valentine Holmes?
Speaker 2: I say, how can you leave Val out? It's been
Speaker 2: a staple of that Origin team under.
Speaker 3: Last year be going better than are you going to pick?
Speaker 2: Oh? No place and a long Dane and what he's
Speaker 2: done for his state. But they moved on from from
Speaker 2: people in Origin. Mate, you're asking them to move on
Speaker 2: from Val.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like, if they don't go, I'll be
Speaker 1: quite happy to have marking vows cards because.
Speaker 3: I'm not picking him.
Speaker 2: Blakes, we show respect?
Speaker 3: Didst year?
Speaker 2: He was that was in losing after a losing series.
Speaker 3: I'd be playing was a losing.
Speaker 2: Series, was it not? When they get dropped, I think
Speaker 2: we've lost the series to back winners. Yeah, when the
Speaker 2: gag go last year? Okay, take it back. I thought
Speaker 2: he went the year before.
Speaker 3: So what are you thinking? I think Alice CONFUSI got
Speaker 3: ushered out?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Evolve evolved, Hammer and guy.
Speaker 2: Val and Hammer will be the sentence.
Speaker 3: I'm sure they will.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying's been like a bustard and playing well.
Speaker 2: And he's a goal kicker, but he hasn't been playing well.
Speaker 4: You're right, but he's to be fair, a lot of
Speaker 4: Cowboys players haven't been playing well.
Speaker 3: So you ruin a line through vow. You've got to
Speaker 3: rule the line through rub and cut out. No, No,
Speaker 3: that has been bad.
Speaker 2: He hasn't played.
Speaker 3: He's been bad, and gag.
Speaker 1: Guy has been good, has been good, That's what That's
Speaker 1: probably the only Again.
Speaker 2: Like Teddy given the first game, if he has a shocker,
Speaker 2: get rid of.
Speaker 3: Well. I said it last week. That puts the Queensland
Speaker 3: Jersey and turns into Superman, he does to drop him.
Speaker 3: I just think Guy has been playing better.
Speaker 2: Okay, you disagree with that, No, I don't.
Speaker 4: Just there's a real good debate happening around and then
Speaker 4: I think, how are you picking.
Speaker 3: Dave.
Speaker 2: He's a bit of defender. Did yes me and wax blokes,
Speaker 2: but he missed a few. I'm not saying there's I'm
Speaker 2: not saying there's a massive gulf between them. And what
Speaker 2: I'm saying is I think Tommy is a better dependent
Speaker 2: than it think, and Tommy's playing was outstanding. With your
Speaker 2: I love is a great player.
Speaker 1: Love Rey picks and chooses when he goes back into
Speaker 1: the Origin Crystal Ball, I think.
Speaker 4: I come back to the trail point on X Factor.
Speaker 4: Now Ezra has moments, he has my band Tommy did.
Speaker 4: It's consistent as big, loving.
Speaker 3: Great player was in Origin.
Speaker 2: When he plays very.
Speaker 1: Good the seven, it'd probably be no brainer, right Cherry, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if it was replacing Cherry Evans, you'd be going did
Speaker 1: and with Monster would say, unless you're going to move
Speaker 1: ben Hart, But.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't walk.
Speaker 1: Well, there was a question about Sammy Walker as well,
Speaker 1: but I think it's ahead of.
Speaker 3: Him for Origin.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about if the half goes Yeah.
Speaker 3: I still think I'm saying didn't.
Speaker 2: Probably still probably of Sam Walker wouldn't.
Speaker 1: But No, that's an interesting that's probably the one thing didn't.
Speaker 1: I think you got to pick a hot good in Yeah,
Speaker 1: I Reckon gets there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm concerned about him a little bit. I don't
Speaker 2: think he's had a great year. Yeah, Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: he was better last year.
Speaker 3: Was better last year. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think you're watching a pretty ordinary paramatter, so getting
Speaker 4: dragged down by him if you isolate his game, he's
Speaker 4: been pretty he's been pretty strong.
Speaker 2: You're right about the cowboys blokes and I caught did
Speaker 2: more than I caught it. I think too Lung he
Speaker 2: will be there because I think Cobbo went. I think
Speaker 2: he will be ahead of Cobbo, Cobo and Coats.
Speaker 3: Potentially Comba an injury.
Speaker 2: He's been playing, it's been great. Wasn't thinking got flicked
Speaker 2: after he's had an injury? Yeah, but if they picked slightly,
Speaker 2: If they picked slightly, I think you've almost got to
Speaker 2: have Coats because you've got to combat. He would are
Speaker 2: the great as well.
Speaker 1: Indigenous round this week, go back in time, boys, your
Speaker 1: favorite indigenous player for me?
Speaker 2: Baby love g I Big Games one of the great
Speaker 2: Queenslanders from Max the Big Games. I haven't seen many big,
Speaker 2: better big game players than g I have the year.
Speaker 2: What about as a kid, He did you like as
Speaker 2: a kid? Well, can I tell you my first memory
Speaker 2: of rugby league? I was watching it with my dad.
Speaker 2: I was watching watching Eastern Subury's play in a midweek
Speaker 2: MK Cup game and I said to my dad, who's
Speaker 2: that guy? And he said, that's Uddy Beats. The true story.
Speaker 2: That was the moment I fell in love with rugby league.
Speaker 4: It was your first favorite, not first favorite or just
Speaker 4: the one that always stands out in my mind.
Speaker 3: He's Preston Campbell just for everything that's good about the.
Speaker 4: Game in giving everyone a chance, and you don't have
Speaker 4: to be the size of paying Hess to have a
Speaker 4: successful career. And Preston had an ability to play the
Speaker 4: game well above his weight, dynamic and played a number
Speaker 4: of positions. He jumped in and he played fullback, one
Speaker 4: where he played a bit of seven and six, and
Speaker 4: then he played a bit of.
Speaker 3: Dummy half at one point.
Speaker 4: I loved watching Preston play and it goes down as
Speaker 4: one of the greatest, sorry, one of the worst decisions
Speaker 4: in rugby league history by Chris Anderson to let Preston.
Speaker 1: Campbell, yeah, and then getting him out of the poor
Speaker 1: Preston Campbell defend the middle. Should have one down there
Speaker 1: who was yours heart to splait Anthony Munday and Nathan Blacklock,
Speaker 1: for they were dragons. They were so fun to watch,
Speaker 1: particularly that ninety nine season where I just sold on
Speaker 1: the ball and doing back fleeps and he was money,
Speaker 1: was a freak, And I just love watching Nathan Blacklock.
Speaker 1: We always didn't if he hadn't scored the dragon and
Speaker 1: the dragons were behind a little bit. You always had
Speaker 1: the sense that, well he's due to score and the
Speaker 1: Dragons could win. You know, that were magical. That were
Speaker 1: absolutely magical to watch.
Speaker 2: Who's your favorite current one?
Speaker 3: I love Hammer? I love watching Hamison playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just he plays with that freedom, He plays
Speaker 1: with that smile on his face, and he can just
Speaker 1: break open again that not many players can.
Speaker 3: He just glides.
Speaker 2: I'm on the trill, man, I love trill.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, no, no, I'm with you on the Hammer.
Speaker 4: We saw it on the weekend. He picked up the ball.
Speaker 4: That's that's much like Blacklock.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just got so much more speed. Blacklock was
Speaker 3: such a weirk.
Speaker 2: He just seems like he's never.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's outstanding. Let's get into some listener questions.
Speaker 1: Who are the contenders for top four? And out of those,
Speaker 1: who do you think a grand finalists? That's from convoys?
Speaker 1: What's your top four?
Speaker 3: So you just having to think about this?
Speaker 2: This is a question without notice, Well not really.
Speaker 1: I gave you plenty of notice when I sent you
Speaker 1: the questions.
Speaker 4: We can't talk for his crono in first position, Melbourne Storms, second, Panthers,
Speaker 4: the Dolphins fourth.
Speaker 3: I'm going to say the Dolphins drop out and the
Speaker 3: Roosters go in. That'll be my top four.
Speaker 2: I'm going to say the same, but maybe Roosters or
Speaker 2: Brisbane will come in. Brisbane a bit worried about Melbourne
Speaker 2: that cam munster for a while.
Speaker 4: Yeah, true, Yeah, I'm with you guys, and I swapped
Speaker 4: the Dolphins out for the Broncos.
Speaker 3: Dolphins out for Roosters. What about Grand finalist? That of that? Well?
Speaker 2: I think Cone going good. Hey, yeah, I find it.
Speaker 2: I Reckonne Melbourne, he's my current thing with Brisbane will
Speaker 2: be there. Sorry, Brisbane Brisbane.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go Brisbane will win it to pri Roosters.
Speaker 2: Roosters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go Sharks Roosters.
Speaker 1: Okay, snook. We entered this around Stefano Booners O five.
Speaker 1: Does Wayne need to move on to thirty five year
Speaker 1: old Cody Walker before next season?
Speaker 3: I'm going to say nope.
Speaker 1: I think he'll back himself to rejuvenate. I actually don't
Speaker 1: think Cody has been too bad right, He's sort of
Speaker 1: He's beat South's best player, Jacky Jack Whiten. The last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I think Cody's game is kicked again.
Speaker 1: So no, I would not be moving on Cody.
Speaker 3: Left.
Speaker 4: I think so Berner, I think you're concerned there is
Speaker 4: that if you're moving on, you suddenly left without you know,
Speaker 4: potentially without a Lachland Elias coming back from a broken leg,
Speaker 4: and if not not at the club, and then Lewis Dodd.
Speaker 3: From the UK Super League.
Speaker 4: So you're asking pretty big questions of your halves, of
Speaker 4: which we without Cody Walker?
Speaker 3: I say keep him for at least one more.
Speaker 1: All right, para Eels facts, will there be a further
Speaker 1: fallout from the brad Arthur sack and he isn't the
Speaker 1: sole reason our roster is a disaster, So Para.
Speaker 4: Eels Fax wants to know whether the head of recruitment
Speaker 4: or jam a footy or will go as well.
Speaker 3: I haven't picked up on any sense of that. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't think so.
Speaker 2: Well, Mark O'Neil's on the committee to find a new coach,
Speaker 2: so he's not going, I would have think so. I
Speaker 2: think there'll be some roster changes.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it's more finger pointing at the
Speaker 4: many charge.
Speaker 1: Mike wants to know why do we have seven tackle
Speaker 1: sets when a player drops the ball when going for
Speaker 1: a try.
Speaker 3: I could not agree more. It is annoying. The rules
Speaker 3: I'm brought in too.
Speaker 1: If you're contesting or trying to score a try for
Speaker 1: a seven to consider seven tackle set. The rule is
Speaker 1: brought in to stop blokes kicking the ball from forty
Speaker 1: meters out, kicking it dead, and negative players.
Speaker 3: I hate that rule.
Speaker 1: Nothing, nothing, nothing in the game annoys me more than
Speaker 1: a player that drops the ball and then kicks it
Speaker 1: dead and concedes a seven tackle set through frustration or whatever.
Speaker 2: Don't kick it dead. I agree, control yourself.
Speaker 1: It's branded juvenile. It is so dumb. But I've got
Speaker 1: a I've got a theory. I hate the seven tackle
Speaker 1: sets shows some self control. I hate the same tackle sets.
Speaker 1: I think that where.
Speaker 2: What do you want? Well?
Speaker 1: And it's to mitigate against this which annoys me the
Speaker 1: drop all you're contested a bomb or dropping boy of wine,
Speaker 1: and you consider seven tackle set, whatever the case may be,
Speaker 1: and to stop teams from going back in time and
Speaker 1: kicking the ball like Jamie Sower kicking the ball dead
Speaker 1: to try and mitigating Billy Slaters. If you kick it
Speaker 1: from outside the twenty right and it goes dead, you
Speaker 1: just get a change over from where you kicked it from.
Speaker 3: No more seven tackle sets.
Speaker 2: I reckon, this is your burner account and you want
Speaker 2: to put that on the map.
Speaker 3: I've said it before.
Speaker 4: I'm confused about discuss any other rule changes except the disruptor.
Speaker 3: Mike, can you see any next week about the distructor
Speaker 3: and I will discuss.
Speaker 2: I think that's rule I think this question is a
Speaker 2: trivial issue. It's not a big issue in the game.
Speaker 3: Disrupt What about my what about my real chan?
Speaker 2: You lost me? I've got no idea what your toy about.
Speaker 3: If you put the word disruptor in there, I'll start
Speaker 3: to talk about it.
Speaker 2: Days I was glazed over away of talking.
Speaker 3: And talking.
Speaker 2: Disruptor is wide away? Whatever your real change was?
Speaker 1: He gla mentioned Michael, check up. Check what game we're
Speaker 1: looking forward to this weekend, boys. I think it's pretty easy.
Speaker 3: Panthers Sharks.
Speaker 2: I'm not looking for the game that's a good one.
Speaker 2: I've forgot what the game like.
Speaker 4: It's all origin focus, boys, That's that's where it lies.
Speaker 4: Madge is going to be watching all seven games.
Speaker 2: Only Melbourne Manly biting a Brookie four points past that?
Speaker 2: Melbourne Manly, that's a good game.
Speaker 3: What about the other Saturday night games? South Sydney and
Speaker 3: the Panthers.
Speaker 1: Trent Barrett in the who would have thought at the
Speaker 1: start of the year that Ben Orb would be I
Speaker 1: can also.
Speaker 2: Make specially mentioned Broncoast, Gold Coast Big Game, these queens
Speaker 2: in Derby Big game Titans and turned the corner a
Speaker 2: bit big game. That'd be better.
Speaker 3: That's been great.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's see this time next week we'll have
Speaker 1: our state of origin size and we can dissect the
Speaker 1: inns and the outs.
Speaker 3: Enjoy your weekend of foot dinner. Oh wow, sorry, sorry, sorry.
Speaker 1: Favorite segment because you guys, how's your Monday TV shows going?
Speaker 2: That's killing it. A lot of people.
Speaker 3: At the end of their.
Speaker 1: Monday show they discussed what TV show they're watching. I'll
Speaker 1: watch Baby Rainy.
Speaker 2: Did you watch fall Out?
Speaker 3: No, that's not my gal's look at the frame.
Speaker 2: Sorry, futuristic futuristic stuff, living in the past.
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Speaker 2: I was getting a bit of work out lately. I'm
Speaker 2: going with the pork belly again. Put lots of sold,
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Speaker 3: Quick. No LeMond.
Speaker 2: Chicken, sorry chicken and lea Oh I love chicken Elite leak,
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Speaker 3: That's my boy, uncle chicken and broccoli buscerole. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Did you just get a text message from is flour Making?
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Speaker 3: There you guys enjoy