WEBVTT - Coaching Chaos 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:11.799 Hello, Welcome to another edition of the Daily Telegraph and podcast. 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.800 I'm Michael Carryanas and looks like this is the new 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.800 rotation for now. Brenery David Ricky, you guys are pulling 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:22.799 the rank and demanding we should do You guys haven't 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:23.880 been paid for your appearances. 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:30.000 Time moves on, Buzz, time moves on. For all people. 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:33.120 The only pony you can never beat is father time Buzz. 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:34.000 Unless you're Wayne Bennett. 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:35.319 Well that's true. A good point here. 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:40.080 Speaking of coaches, a bit dramatic this week, Brad Arthur out, 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:43.400 Trent Barrett in in the short term, and then a 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:47.120 fair bit of conjecture over who the next Paramattic coach is. 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.800 I think we've all had our say on the Paramatta 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:52.360 situation and the way they've handled it, and Brad Artha 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:53.200 no longer the coach. 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:59.040 But let's throw forward a little bit, guys, Dave, who are. 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:03.440 Some of the potential candidates to take over from the 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:04.559 Eels at the end of the season. 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.160 Yeah, look, we can rattle off twenty seven names, all right, 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:11.280 but this is the only little thing that concerns me 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:15.040 with Paramatta. A lot of coaches out there they actually 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:17.839 don't like going through an interview process and sitting down 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.520 and getting the whiteboard out and the PowerPoint presentation on 0:01:21.600 --> 0:01:24.640 why I should be the coach of Paramatta. A lot 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:28.319 of the good clubs identify who they want and go 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.160 hard at him, which Paramatta did do to be fair 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:34.959 with Wayne Bennett. But second to that, now it seems 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:38.280 as though they're going to go through this vast process 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.000 of trying to identify their next coach. And I just 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:42.360 got a little bit of concerns over that. 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:44.560 Can I just say about that, out of the guys 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:48.480 that are there, how many of them deserve the right 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:49.480 not to be interviewed. 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:55.919 Well, again, the Paramatta club need to know what they want, 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:00.320 what they stand for, what the vision they see, and 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:04.320 which coach has the resume that they already know. 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:06.760 You're telling me you can't do background checks on every car. 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:08.720 I think the only one that they could slide into 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:10.600 straight away with Michael Maguire. 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.240 Always said, Billy, he's not going to do it. 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.359 I still think you need to speak, you still need. 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:18.839 You still need to gage, You're not going to Billy 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.320 won't do it. If you just say Billy, just say 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.359 Billy is interesting, he won't be Just say is he's 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:25.480 not going to do an interview presser. 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:27.880 I'm not saying to sit down and do an interview 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.560 press speak to I don't think. I don't think ma won't. 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:33.480 I don't think is so desperate for. 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.040 I don't think he would mate. But I don't think. 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:40.040 I don't think Michael mcgwid needs to do one. Okay, 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.000 I reckon the rest of them, and probably Billy or 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.560 I'll conceive Billy. But I think if we're talking about Jason, 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:46.480 because Jason Rowles, the first question I'd be sitting there 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.520 and asking him is why didn't you go to the Dragons, right, 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:51.679 because they are reports that, you know, they need to 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.480 know that that answer. If it's Josh Hannah, if it's 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:56.840 whoever the case may be. I think the rest of 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:59.200 them need to have They need to they need to 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:03.160 interview judgment. I just hope that within the walls of 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.040 the Eels that they've nailed their search down to three guys, 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.440 because we've got a list of about twelve, right, I 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.639 just hope they've nailed down to three like Saints did. 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.440 Saints had really only roles Flannigan. 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:18.760 Hornby, Yeah, and they kept that young and doing young. 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:19.040 Yep. 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.400 They kept it pretty tight. Yeah, and those they whittled 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:25.600 the other two away pretty quickly. Cronulla knew they wanted 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.560 Craig Fitzgibbon went and got him. And I just think 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:30.640 that's when you know what you want as a footy 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.839 club and what you meant like trying to work out 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.080 what you want as a club depending on the coach, 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:37.920 it's backward. 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.040 I don't think there's a There's not a Craig fits 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:43.880 given there though now everyone there's not a Camin Sireldo 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:49.480 there right now. Roles is the closest things I agree. 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:54.560 Why why aren't you the coach of the Dragons control 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:56.280 a massive left field? 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:59.880 Is it massive left field or the reason left going? 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:05.320 I'd be chasing Mick Checker. He wants the job, he 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:08.320 wants to coach therell He's got relationships with some of 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.840 those players, notably Mitch Moses. If he coached with Lebanon, 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:14.960 has a great relationship with him. He's an amazing man manager. 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.040 He's an authoritarian, which that club. I think we all 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:23.920 acknowledge needs someone with a strong hand to control that 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.280 playing group. Now. I think he needs to write coaches 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:29.320 with him. I think that's if he can come to 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.640 you with a package and say, Okay, I want the job. 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:36.560 I've got Josh Hannay going to do it with me, 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:42.040 or Matt King, Matt kan Ros or people like that. 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.120 I think you've got to take him really, really seriously. 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:51.679 I'm I would be so intrigued check if I'm in Paramount. 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:53.080 I don't know if I've got the guts to do it. 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:55.120 If I'm being honest right like, I just don't know. 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:59.440 If to sit here and say yeah, I would, I 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:00.240 would full. 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:02.719 Support it. 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.920 I'd say I think Michael Checker because as you said, 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.360 I think they need that guy that's going to get 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:10.800 the best out of this playing group and connect with 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:13.240 the senior players, and the senior players only have a 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:18.080 short life, right Paramatt aside from probably Mitch's probably still playing. 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:19.839 You know, he's at the top of the top of 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.240 his game and probably has four or five years potentially left. 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:26.440 The more I think about it, the more I would 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:28.760 love to see Michael Checker as head coach of Paramatta, 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:32.680 with the caveat that he's got two young football head 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.200 assistant coaches or three, whatever the case may be, and 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:37.479 they do thet they do the hands on and I 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.400 think we You know, Michael check is not clueless on 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.640 rugby league. Michael Checker will have his thoughts on the game, 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.560 and we'll be able to read the game and understand 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.240 the game. Some of the technical elements of the game, 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.520 the fine tuning elements, that's what he will need to 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.680 support with. But you know he won't be less hands 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:51.480 on the WAYN Bennett's. 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:53.320 I was going to say, it's a bit like WAYN Bennett, right. 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:54.320 People tell you Wayne. 0:05:54.080 --> 0:06:02.000 Benner Bennett fans, if you are listening, if you are. 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.000 Watching, I'm going you don't want hear. 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.000 We've got to say, fans, if you are driving off 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:09.080 the road, if you are about to like seriously throw 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:14.239 this your AirPods into the bin listening to this rubbish 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.400 about Michael Checker taking over Paramatta. 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.560 I'm with you, I'm coming with you. How you can 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:21.560 compare Michael Checker to Wayne. 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:23.599 If you let me finish? Can you let me finish? 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:27.640 Because people say that Wayne isn't the most technically gifted 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.760 coach when it comes comes to ext's and nose, But 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:32.800 what he is the very good man manager who has 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:36.039 the right people around him. That's the comparison with Wayne Bennett. 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.960 I'm not saying he's won seven Premierships. He hasn't. But 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.040 he's been a great coach in rugby and he's a 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.240 great man manager. I'm like, whilst he may not have 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:50.159 the technical now so the game down path basically he 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.160 surrounds himself with the right people, which he did with Lebanon, 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:54.960 did a great job at Levan in the World Cup 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.960 and again I'm not saying that's the NRL. 0:06:57.800 --> 0:06:59.280 And has worked at the roosters. 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:03.800 Too, to the roost of the Robber rob doesn't, so 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:05.320 this show does clearly. 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.960 So you want Paramatta right, For the first time in 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:15.200 eleven years, they have an opportunity to turn the page 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.440 on the entire it's a club defining the decision this right, 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:22.400 You want to gamble on a guy, correct? So long 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.360 on a guy that's never coached in the NRL, so 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.600 long as he's got the right support staff around. 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:28.080 Him, Yes, correct, Yes, ludicrous. 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:33.560 How many of those guys they're talking about coach? What 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.160 you're saying is you don't know if you can coach 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.360 because he needs the right who's. 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:38.680 The laydown with their coach? Who do you want to 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:39.040 give it to you? 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:42.880 I'd like to go with someone who actually had who 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:44.720 has been building a regionary coach. 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:48.280 With Jason Royles, Josh had A, Michael Maguire. 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:50.760 Are they any less risk than Mick Checker. 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:56.240 No, they're not. So what's the problem, Well, sorry, yes 0:07:56.240 --> 0:08:03.480 they are. Yes, Well I'm convoluted voting Michael Checker, yes, checking, 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:07.920 And I don't know. 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:09.880 I don't know if I'm cheering it on because I'm 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:11.400 so intrigued cheering the story. 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:15.239 Yeah, I always cheer the story, though, I do feel 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.680 like paramountal fans want actual results. I think he could. 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:20.040 I think you can get it. I think he could 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:22.520 whip that plane group into shape. I think about the 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.000 plane commander. The playing group is going to get ripped 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:29.560 apart no matter what what, automatically, you know what will be. 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.760 Who you're saying, who's gone name names, Well. 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:34.000 I've already said it previously. 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.200 The cap is too top heavy in the forward pack, 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:38.800 They're outside backs are thin. 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.520 They've got a fullback that's aging and injury prone. 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:46.480 Left this deal. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.000 I think he's got twelve months, doesn't he twenty five? 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:54.120 Okay, probably he's probably depending on how he goes and 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:55.319 then moving to the centers. 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:59.960 And yeah, look, I don't like checker at all. 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:06.400 Hush as a person, a person, as an applicant, I 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:07.600 look for this club. 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:09.720 Perhaps I don't have to know this dicasion. 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:12.079 What a story, a story. 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:12.880 Let's make it happen. 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.400 Come on, come on, Jim and Sewan, make it happen. 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:17.800 Boys, they may listen. 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:24.800 The bankers, Come on the banker, Wayne, he's even a 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:29.120 banker anymore either. These retired to Baker. He was to 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:29.720 work in a bank. 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:33.680 A great just on movements at clubs, is I popularly 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:37.360 here last twenty four hours that that's moved pretty quickly. 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.760 We had the story yesterday that he was on the 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:44.000 open market, and the day this morning you broke the 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:49.640 back that he was going to your yesterday today. 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:54.640 What's sunny was that this this the agreement to allow 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.600 him to negotiate with rival clubs, happened a month ago. 0:09:58.280 --> 0:09:59.520 From the West Tiger's point. 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.920 Of view, one no one let it out. I spoke 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.160 to CEO this morning. You see, we got off three 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:06.520 majors ago. I said, what do you tell me? 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.439 I was filthy, But that's eventually how it did come out. 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:13.000 This signing. 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:16.000 I'm not sold on. I think he's I think he's 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:19.000 been really poor at the Tigers. He was outstanding at 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.480 Tobe this career. I understand it. 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:24.240 It was a poor decision to go there. 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:27.640 I just I don't know. I don't not convinced Bote well. 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:29.640 I think the fact that you know he's been playing 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.520 at Paramatta, He's spent large of that time playing outside 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.480 Mitchell Moses, which helped him. The Tigers have been chopping 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:39.440 and changing, haven't had any continuity signed under Michael McGuire. 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.240 I have got an opportunity to play under Michael. 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.920 Maguire and Jerome Lure if he stayed. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.199 There potentially, but now he might play outside Nathan Cleary 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.560 or Jack Cole, you know, whatever the case may be. 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:52.360 I think it's a good signing for for Penrith. I 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.800 think it's a massive win for pup Lea to go 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:58.280 from the West Tigers to to Penrith. 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:00.760 On the fact that. 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:02.360 We's going to a contender. 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:03.360 He's gone to a contend. 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.200 Another twelve months left on his deal. He's got a 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.240 three deal, so he got two extra years. I'm assuming 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.280 on roughly the same amount of money that he's on 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:14.120 and he's on what do you say he's on reading 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:16.200 seven fifty next season? 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.199 The Tigers have all floated that and arm chipping in 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:21.720 it's not a bad deal for the Tigers either, because 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:22.080 they need to. 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.120 All the Tigers fans that have reached out to me. 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.160 So they don't can't loving It was the reaction on 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:31.280 Twitter yesterday when we put the story out, Meck, it 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:34.800 was Tigers fans giving it to us for saying it's 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:39.360 a loss that that that he was about to walk out. 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.360 They were saying, Look, the point is we've let him 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:42.960 go and we're happy about it. 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.240 With that amount of money and I'm not sure how 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.559 much the Tigers' assumed, but it only be fair a 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.400 little bit for potentially one year because then you had 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:51.600 twelve months left on his deal. 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.880 But the biggest question, if I'm a Tigers fan is 0:11:54.920 --> 0:12:00.400 why why haven't the Tigers coaching staff and sister been 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.400 able to get the best out of Isaiah Poppelli of 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.040 which we saw at Paramatta. And look, I think maybe 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.760 you're right there's a factor of those halves not being 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.920 as quality as what Mitch Moses is, but I wouldn't 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.240 direct my if I'm a Tigers fan, I'm questioning the 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:14.040 bigger picture here. 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:18.040 Why why has a he was outstanding. 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:22.160 Did you not get Dalli? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Para. 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:26.240 I just honestly form has been on a slippery ever since. 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:28.080 But how many players have gone to that club and 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:32.680 got maintained this standard or got better? Maybe Uppy definitely, Yeah, 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:33.800 anybody else? 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:35.439 Pup was the only twenty five? 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:37.040 Yeah, then we forget surprised. 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.880 He's only twenty five, So I couldn't believe Up going 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:41.960 to that Penrish system. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.400 I think that's a great same what does what back 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.080 rowers can get out of their careers at Penrith. And 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:49.280 it is interesting the fact that Penriths seen hell ben 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:52.559 on getting a back rower. With James Fisher Harris going obviously, 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.439 that means that either Scott Sorenson or Leam Martin whill 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.400 transition into the middle with Linday Si. 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.040 Maybe but not a top end right now. They've obviously identified. 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.600 They went for David for feeder and now signed Papa Lee. 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.560 I think it's a I think it's a great sign 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.880 for Penrith and interesting for the Tigers because you're losing 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.839 a guy's still got tremendous upside, but it doesn't look 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:16.040 like he's the only one that might be out of 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.599 the Tigers at the end of the season in the 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:24.760 UK's rising. 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:23.800 A bit of selling and buying if you can. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.200 So can you just tell Tigers fans what's about to 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:26.960 happen at their club? 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:28.400 Is it about to get ripped apart again? 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:29.520 It's about to get gutted? 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.360 Ye oh my god, here we go again. Well, I 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:34.319 mean the trajectory was. 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.400 Some of them are logical, right, I mean, Jerome Lloyd 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:41.000 comes next year. They've got a lot too funny, young 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:44.200 young kid going to be something, they think, But he's 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:48.880 had hamstring problems. They've got Lucky Galvin, and they've got 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.760 Bud Sullivan. They don't need them all. Bud's on huge money, 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.280 hasn't performed, They're going to try and move him. That's logical, right, 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:56.360 Brent Naden, What. 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.240 Do you mean he hasn't Bud hasn't performed. 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.480 I mean, I agree with you, hasn't before. But has 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:02.840 he been given the opportunity of which he was promised? 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:03.880 He's been given the chance? 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:07.319 Sullivan. Yeah, he's a terrible boy. 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:09.960 He's a terrible Who was the head coach there at 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.679 the time when that was Benji and Scott fall right? 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:14.640 So what's happen there with Benji and Jordan. 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:20.440 They obviously thought Lucky Gallons probably kicked quickly. I think 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:22.600 they always thought that Lucky Gallen was going to be 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.960 a good player, but he's probably kicked a bit sooner. 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:27.040 I think there was also a theory Locky gall of 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.880 my transition to the back row or lock or an 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.440 or an edge forward. But he wants to play six, 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:32.920 I believe. 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:36.160 So that's a big money deal. Half a million dollars 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:40.120 for Sullivan on four years. Disagreeing with it, but the coach. 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.720 Is currently there at this moment in time signed him. 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.960 Yeah, but on the advice of someone who isn't there 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.840 still right, who played a big part of that deal. 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:50.800 We all know he did. Yeah, play a huge part 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.320 of that deal. He's not there. You are you clear, 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.320 just say you're gonna have to chip in some money 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.640 for Bud Sullivan. So they walk away three hundred green 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.920 out of that seven hundred out of Papa, there's some 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:04.440 a million dollars. Then you move Nayden, potentially Charlie Staines. 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.720 There's probably another half of men, and you've got one 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.720 point five million dollars to play. And you've got to 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.840 remember that the simmering issue in the background. Is Stefano 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.200 you toy Kmano. They have to Their plans are to 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.880 put a huge deal in front of him. It hasn't 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.680 happened yet as I understand it. They were going to 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:22.880 do it before rich I went to the UK. He 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.160 hasn't done well. I think you'll go to market. I 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:26.200 think we all assume he did. 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.040 But they've got to put on the show last week. 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.760 Do you think you'll go. I agree with you, you'll go. 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.240 Yeah. I think they've got to put enough money in Well, 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.160 they're going to try and put enough money in front 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:36.760 of him that convinces him to stuff. 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.000 It seems like, well, the Tigers won't play finals for you. 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:42.640 I had a few questions about this. He's unlikely to 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:43.880 play Game one of origin. 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:47.640 I don't think the understanding is several front rollers need 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:51.400 to fall over injured for Stefano to get a Blues. 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.760 Jersey, So that means that he'll be on the open 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:57.800 market at some point out of finals. 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:02.760 Content we're talking could be soon. Well, I'll be like two. 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.760 I know that they're out, but they technically have to 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:09.360 do mathematically, so that's going to be an interesting development. 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.880 Over and he'll go straight out, they'll go straight to market, 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:15.120 start looking because as Dave noted, I don't think he's 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.320 going to sign even if they put a mega extension. 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:21.239 If they lose Ye Stefano. 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.360 There's some suggestion that Bateman's been shopped. I don't know 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.880 if that's true or not. The English press have sort 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:30.800 of picked up on that over there, and we all 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:32.560 know that there's not a lot on the player market. 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.440 Well, there's obviously players in what you've got to what 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:37.560 you got to hope for. 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:39.840 If you're one of those struggling clubs, the Tigers of 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:44.800 the Dragons. When I'm looking for roster changes that with 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:49.360 the coaches change of South's and Paramatta, there's some player 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:51.040 movement there because. 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.000 The next coach coming in, like Wayne's going to shake 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:53.840 up the South roster. 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.360 Are you going to take from South? Wayne to let 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:58.960 go looks realistically, who the mate. 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:03.320 You might have might have to if you're tapping these guys, 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:07.160 they might have to take something. 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:10.840 He's not there. And then Stefano walks out the. 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:16.200 Door, happy went there and playing outstanding football. He's going 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.080 to potentially lose his front rawer and. 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:23.240 What about sorry Hals went forward? 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.960 So that is interesting but they must have We know 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.760 Richard doesn't sit on his hands right, so they must 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:32.280 have something else. Brilliant knowing that they were so. 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:37.440 Was they're clearing money for something something aside from Stefano, 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:39.000 something else on his radar. 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:41.880 Which we're going from the South day. 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:43.720 Maybe satell to Panuur. 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.960 Good players solving their problems there help. 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:53.280 Yeah, well, I think the top roosts are very confident Angus. 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.679 Angus has played seven good games in two years. 0:17:57.760 --> 0:17:59.600 It was last year, but the year before that. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.800 Interesting. If the Tiger's suddenly thrown nine hundred grand at him, 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:04.240 how that impacts things? 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:05.240 That's a big money offer. 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.680 Yeah, too much? Yeah, you've got to get him away 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:09.280 for the Roosters. 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:10.639 Yeah nine hundred? 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:11.920 Have you eight hundred? 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:14.240 But hang on, I don't think the Roosters will go 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:14.600 to that. 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:17.040 I'm saying you've got. 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:18.959 To I think the Roosters will go to that. 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:25.120 What do you reckon the six fifty from seven eight fifty? Yep, 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:27.960 make you make a decision. 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.760 Yeap hangers Crichton. We think you'll be there for New 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:34.040 South Wales game one. Let's turn our attention to the 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:37.480 Origin side, which will be announced on Sunday, Dave at 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:45.560 this stage, maybe some crisis, maybe Monday in crisis Sunday night. 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:51.280 The players on that this has been the most difficult side, 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:55.880 trying to unpack this side. Who or may and there's 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.640 lots of unknowns, right yeah, because Nathan, you know Nathan 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:00.960 clearly Lockett seven, you know what I mean. And you 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.359 know Bradman Best probably would have been the center, or 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:05.440 Tommy Turboy would have been the center, whatever the case. 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:07.959 May Camp Murray would have been in the team. So 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:08.840 there's all these blacks. 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.280 There's a half a dozen blokes that you knew were 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:12.800 locked that suddenly. 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:15.320 Call it across, you can call it whatever you like. 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:20.160 They are ready swimming either cruising series can just about 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:21.200 to pick your team now. 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:23.840 Michael McGuire coaches, Bet you can't as Michael, there's Michael 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:24.639