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Speaker 1: Oh Gada, Welcome to healthy Ish. Thanks for joining us

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Speaker 1: on the podcast from body and Soul. I hope you

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Speaker 1: are feeling healthy ish. I am your host of Felicity

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Speaker 1: Harley and joining me in the studio is our digital

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Speaker 1: editor Holly Berkman, and we are chatting through the three

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Speaker 1: hottest stories from our Health of the Nation survey. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the stats, the subjects, and a few more worrying topics

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Speaker 1: that we want to share with you this week.

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Speaker 2: Holly, Hello, Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming back on healthy Ish.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me back. Now, how's your well?

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Speaker 1: Are you healthy ish?

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Speaker 2: How's your I'm healthy ish. I think I have been

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Speaker 2: hitting that dance bean salad for last year a lot. Still,

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Speaker 2: you know, I was crazy about it and it's slotted

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Speaker 2: right back into my life. Coming back into the office.

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Speaker 2: It's so good. It's so good. Still. I'm getting back

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Speaker 2: into the polates after a bit of a Christmas break.

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Speaker 2: Stomach muscles are hurting from five days ago, but I

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Speaker 2: think that's a good thing. How about you? Yeah, I've

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Speaker 2: been well. I'm back on the running train. I actually

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Speaker 2: went last night in so hot it was like twenty

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Speaker 2: really muggy, really hot, and I just thought have to, like,

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Speaker 2: I have to just get in the runs now because

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Speaker 2: this half marathon loves women's hukey half marathon is looming.

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Speaker 1: And it was.

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Speaker 2: Awful, Yeah, horrible, yuck, like like I.

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Speaker 1: Felt sick at one stage and it was about seven

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Speaker 1: I just keep on going, run really slowly, and my

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Speaker 1: self talk got me through.

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Speaker 2: That's good. That's better than my self talk. My self

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Speaker 2: talk is usually like girl, this is horrendous. Oh don't

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Speaker 2: take a break. What the hell are you doing to stop?

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Speaker 2: Just walk? And I was like, no, no, but you

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Speaker 2: did it going And boy, do you feel good today?

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Speaker 1: I do you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? They hydrated or fine, that's a little bit. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, The big thing in a Body and Soul HQ

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Speaker 1: this week has been the launch of the Health of

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Speaker 1: the Nation survey.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's our second year of Health of the Nation.

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Speaker 2: We're back, We're bigger and better than ever, and it's exciting.

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Speaker 2: I think there's been some really great insights out of

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Speaker 2: the report.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so sha share with the's something that you found

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Speaker 1: well interesting, something's been trending give us the stats.

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Speaker 2: So my pick for this one. It's not the lightest story,

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Speaker 2: but I think it is really interesting and that's that

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Speaker 2: more than half of Australians worry about their weight. It

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Speaker 2: think misinformation and dieting culture is as we know, it's

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Speaker 2: that it's a combination of the constant comparison and unaccredited

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Speaker 1: It's interesting because similar numbers of people in Australia are

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Speaker 2: Example, exactly, it's about, you know, finding a way to

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Speaker 2: And Laura also says that the Butterfly Foundation released a

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Speaker 2: So I think, you know, how do we combat that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, interesting, interesting stat. But I think all those

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Speaker 1: The one that I found interesting was the amount we

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Speaker 1: What do you spend on fitness?

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Speaker 2: If you've got a good gym membership then often that

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Speaker 1: So but I mean for me, I say it's investment

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Speaker 2: Right, healthy is wealth, as we have to remember.

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Speaker 1: End the cost of not being physically active to your

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Speaker 1: Anyway, before we go, what's another thing that was perhaps

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Speaker 2: So this story is why sexual wellness is the hottest

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Speaker 1: So what sort of sexual wellness holidays are people going on.

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Speaker 2: Well. I think there are some sort of people book

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Speaker 1: Just a little side note. I'm not a fiction reader,

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Speaker 1: you have kids. But yeah, I was just thinking that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you go check into hotel for two weeks.

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Speaker 2: I think it's also yourself. Yeah, it's part of that

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Speaker 2: rise of like reading, like romantic literature and things as well,

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Speaker 2: I think is that people are tapping into it more

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Speaker 2: and that's moving into their travel behaviors and spending too,

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Speaker 2: which is great space.

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Speaker 1: Yeah Holley, thank you, see you next week.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Bye, friends, fans, listeners. If you do want to read

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Speaker 1: any of those stories about the trends, the surveys, the stats,

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Speaker 1: I will leave a link to them in the show notes.

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Speaker 1: Anything else, head to body andsoul dot com.

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Speaker 2: That are you.

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Speaker 1: You can join the conversation across social media. Can DM

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Speaker 1: me at Felicity Harley, particularly on Instagram that's kind of

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Speaker 1: my go to, and of course Grobaur print edition which

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Speaker 1: is out in your local Sunday paper. Thanks again for

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Speaker 1: joining us as always, and until tomorrow, stay healthy ish