WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 13 February

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<v Speaker 1>Lately, Welcome the Late Debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, good evening and welcome to the Late Debate James

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<v Speaker 2>Macpherson with Liz stra and Caleb Bond coming up tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've ever wondered whether we're sending our best into politics,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got a video that proves conclusively we are not.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll show you that a little later. Plus, when we

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<v Speaker 2>look at the papers, a Chinese fighter jet comes dangerously

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<v Speaker 2>close to an r DOAAF plane. The Albanzy government has

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<v Speaker 2>launched an official protest, and new data reveals just how

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<v Speaker 2>few Australians are watching the ABC. Surprise, surprise. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about all of that when we get to tomorrow's news.

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<v Speaker 2>But first I thought there was like a climate emergency.

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<v Speaker 2>Haven't we been told there's a climate crisis? Haven't we

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<v Speaker 2>been warned that we only have a few short years

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<v Speaker 2>to save the planet. Didn't the Secretary General of the

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<v Speaker 2>United Nations tell us we're on a highway to climate hell.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course you'll remember in twenty twenty three said this,

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<v Speaker 2>the era of global warming has ended.

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<v Speaker 3>The eater of global boiling as arrived.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a climate catastrophe. We've got to do something now,

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<v Speaker 2>which makes me wonder why out of one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>ninety five countries that signed the Paris Agreement, where they

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<v Speaker 2>agreed to limit temperature rises to just one point five

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<v Speaker 2>degrees above pre industrial levels to save the planet, do

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<v Speaker 2>you know how many of those one hundred and ninety

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<v Speaker 2>five countries submitted in time their emission reduction plan to

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<v Speaker 2>say what they would do about those reductions by the

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<v Speaker 2>year twenty thirty five. Those plans were due in on Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred and ninety five countries have committed to this.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten ten countries got their plans in. One hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>eighty five out of one hundred ninety five countries that

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<v Speaker 2>just a bit late haven't got around to it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>technical difficulties, some economic problem. It's coming. It's in the mail.

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<v Speaker 2>A dog ate my homework. Ninety five percent of the

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<v Speaker 2>countries that signed up to the Paris Agreement didn't bother

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<v Speaker 2>getting in their latest report that they all promised they

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<v Speaker 2>would on Monday. The thing that gets me about this

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<v Speaker 2>is you and I are told we can't eat meat,

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<v Speaker 2>We've got to eat bugs. We can't drive V eights anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got to drive these electric things, and on and

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<v Speaker 2>on it goes to save the planet, and our politicians

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<v Speaker 2>demanding all of this from us. They can't even get

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<v Speaker 2>their reports on time, which begs the question how much

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<v Speaker 2>do they even really believe this stuff? Of the ten

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<v Speaker 2>countries that managed to submit their reports, the US got

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<v Speaker 2>theirs in, but only because it was done while Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden was still the president. But those that didn't. China,

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest emitter in the world, they didn't bother submitting

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<v Speaker 2>their report. India the third biggest emitter in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't bother but caleble Liz. Guess what other country

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<v Speaker 2>of those one hundred and eighty five countries it didn't bother.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess another country on that list of reculcitrants who haven't

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<v Speaker 2>quite got their homework in yet straight?

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<v Speaker 1>Would it be one.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Bowen didn't get. Really, I thought.

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<v Speaker 4>We would have been on top of this.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, the Uban easy government isn't on top of

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<v Speaker 5>much else. But you would have thought, since we're bleeding

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<v Speaker 5>out of very orifice to pay our energy bills in

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<v Speaker 5>this nation at the moment, you would have thought Chris

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<v Speaker 5>Bowen would be crossing the t's and dotting the eyes

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<v Speaker 5>when it came to handing in his report card to

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<v Speaker 5>the UN to say, look, how marvelously we're doing with

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<v Speaker 5>regards to our Paris agreements. Like, now that the US

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<v Speaker 5>has cooled out of this thing, it is such a

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<v Speaker 5>waste of time. How are you collectively going to ensure

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<v Speaker 5>that the temperature doesn't rise by two degrees instead of

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<v Speaker 5>one point five degrees?

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<v Speaker 4>How are you going to do that when the second

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<v Speaker 4>biggest emitter in.

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<v Speaker 5>The world has been like, you know what, We're not

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<v Speaker 5>participating in this BS anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>And not only have they pulled out of the Paris.

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<v Speaker 5>Agreement, but Trump is absolutely delivering on his drill baby,

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<v Speaker 5>drill promise. Oh yeah, the war on coal fired power

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<v Speaker 5>in America is over. Gas, It's over. Trump loves fossil fuels.

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<v Speaker 5>And we'll get to more from his US Energy secretary

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<v Speaker 5>Al Gore's worst nightmare in a bit. But when you

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<v Speaker 5>have the biggest military mit on the face of the planet,

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<v Speaker 5>the head honcho of the Western world say, we're not

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<v Speaker 5>playing this game anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't give a toss.

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<v Speaker 5>And not only are we withdrawing, we are putting pedal

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<v Speaker 5>to the metal with regards to fossil fuel production.

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<v Speaker 4>In this country.

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<v Speaker 5>All we care about is cheap energy, No wonder, one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and eighty five countries are just like you know what,

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<v Speaker 5>sodd Nothing we can do is going to make up

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<v Speaker 5>for that anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the reason we're bleeding out of every orifice, as

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<v Speaker 1>you say, is because Chris Bowen has rogered is so

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<v Speaker 1>hard with his pursuit of renewable energy. He's been on

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<v Speaker 1>top of something. It's just not getting this report in.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't call him Casanova Bowen for nothing. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to go off on a slow because you mentioned V

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<v Speaker 1>eight cars before, and I was sitting here having a

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<v Speaker 1>little moment, and I'm sure Paul Murray, if he is watching,

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<v Speaker 1>will be having exactly the same moment. Nobody makes V

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<v Speaker 1>eight cars anymore. You can the only VA cars you

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<v Speaker 1>can buy a second hand. No one makes them, not

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<v Speaker 1>even Toyota, which used to put vates in their land

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<v Speaker 1>cruisers for grunts, not for speed, but even they have

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<v Speaker 1>yanked vates off the market, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Is in the city today. And this guy went past

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<v Speaker 2>in his V eight Commodore, a classic vehicle from boys.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, an electric vehicle comes up behind you, it

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<v Speaker 2>would hit you before you even knew it was there.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's part of the point, isn't it, Because

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<v Speaker 1>of course, you know, too many people on the face

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<v Speaker 1>of the planets what's causing all this travel, So the

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<v Speaker 1>evs will just depopulate a little bit. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>all part of the deal. But it shows what a

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<v Speaker 1>joke this whole thing is. I mean, the climate chief

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<v Speaker 1>at the un Simon Steele, said that this was the

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<v Speaker 1>most important policy document of this century. Wow, and only

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<v Speaker 1>ten of one hundred and ninety five actually bothered to

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<v Speaker 1>get it in. That's how important they clearly think it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Or more to the point, it proves that no one

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<v Speaker 1>has obeyed the rules that they themselves set down. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is the problem with the Paris Accord. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we go, oh, well, we couldn't possibly pull

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<v Speaker 1>out of it, because you know, we've got to do

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<v Speaker 1>the right thing by the world. But clearly the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the world is not doing the right thing by itself.

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<v Speaker 1>So why would we be foolish enough to go along

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<v Speaker 1>with this when clearly no one else is going along

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<v Speaker 1>with it. It's not worth the paper it's written on.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course when you're part of the Paris Agreement,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't revise your targets down. You're only allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>your targets up. But again, what does it matter. Because

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<v Speaker 1>we've got the targets, we know we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>meet them exactly. Everyone in the energy sector has known

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<v Speaker 1>that we're not going to meet our zero targets for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thirty So it's certainly not going to meet the

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<v Speaker 1>targets for twenty thirty five, and clearly no other country

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<v Speaker 1>thinks they can as well. While we're talking about matters

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<v Speaker 1>of the environment, littering now that this is one that

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<v Speaker 1>I really hate because I think of all the things

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<v Speaker 1>you could do to actually help save the environment, not

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<v Speaker 1>littering is one of them. And apart from that, it

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't look good. I mean, you walk around, you

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<v Speaker 1>see crap strewn all over the footpath. It just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>look good. Put your stuff in the bin. We should

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<v Speaker 1>go Singapore style on people. I think it start caning

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<v Speaker 1>their hands until they bleed if they're caught littering. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it needs to be done. I'm all on

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<v Speaker 1>board with it. If it means a more beautiful Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm all on board with it. Of course, a

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<v Speaker 1>more beautiful Australia is what to keep Australia beautiful and

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<v Speaker 1>clean Up Ustralia have been saying four years now and

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<v Speaker 1>every year they do an audit to the litter that

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<v Speaker 1>they have picked up over the year previous. Well, they've

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<v Speaker 1>gone through all this litter and funnily enough, they found

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<v Speaker 1>a marked increase in litter being vapes, right, these single

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<v Speaker 1>use vapes which you can walk into a convenience store

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<v Speaker 1>and bat which seems very odd because I thought the

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<v Speaker 1>federal government banned them. I mean January the first last

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<v Speaker 1>year there was an importation ban on these vapes and

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<v Speaker 1>then from July the first there was a full on

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<v Speaker 1>ban on them being sold all together. And yet they

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<v Speaker 1>have found a one hundred and forty percent increase in

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<v Speaker 1>these things being littered and not only does it look bad,

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<v Speaker 1>clean Up Australia says these are literally the worst things

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<v Speaker 1>for the environment possible. This is their chair Pip Kanan.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, we call them the triple threat to the

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<v Speaker 1>environment because they're plastic waste, they're e waste because they've

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<v Speaker 1>got a battery in them, a lithium battery. And we

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<v Speaker 1>know what's been going on with those blowing up left

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<v Speaker 1>right and center, and mere handardous waste because of the

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<v Speaker 1>toxins in the liquid. They don't belong in the environment.

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<v Speaker 1>They also don't belong in the curb side bin. But

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it funny to these things which were banned and

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<v Speaker 1>we were told that would be the end of it,

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<v Speaker 1>all fixed, no one would be vaping anymore. Strike me pink.

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<v Speaker 1>The government banning it hasn't worked.

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<v Speaker 4>What a fool. I'm even hiding it though.

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<v Speaker 5>You can barely walk down the street without a grown

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<v Speaker 5>man blowing a cloud of blueberry mango in your face

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<v Speaker 5>and you're innocently walking along like that came out of

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<v Speaker 5>your lungs. Foul by the way, real men's smoke. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>none of this vaping nonsense.

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<v Speaker 4>Get a life. But it's just out in the open.

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<v Speaker 5>I was behind someone in traffic the other day and

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<v Speaker 5>for a second I thought their.

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<v Speaker 4>Car was on the fire. It's just billows coming out

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<v Speaker 4>of the side and I'm like, God, Lord, what's happening.

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<v Speaker 5>No old mates just sitting in the front having I'm

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<v Speaker 5>massive chure off one is vape if it's so banned now,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, there's no way the police actually believe that

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<v Speaker 5>all of these are the prescription veves.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do ourselves a favor. These people are just taking

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<v Speaker 4>the mick.

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<v Speaker 2>That there is a problem here, and that is that

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<v Speaker 2>the clean Up Australia data was from the financial year

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three to twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Four, which does take in when the band came.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, didn't you take in on the first of July,

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<v Speaker 2>But the.

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<v Speaker 1>Importation ban came on the first of January, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>effectively the supply should have been cut off from the

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<v Speaker 1>start of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Clearly it wasn't right, and then from the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>last year then you had to go to a pharmacist

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<v Speaker 2>with a prescription. On that point you have to go

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<v Speaker 2>to that.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to go to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I asked my son about this today. I said, like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to get a vape, where would you

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<v Speaker 2>get it? And he laughed at me like I'm an idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, from any convenience.

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<v Speaker 4>Extraly sandy Tobacca?

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<v Speaker 2>That illegal? He said, no, you just go and ask

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<v Speaker 2>and they've got them behind the counter. I said, do

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<v Speaker 2>they ask about your age or anything like that? Because

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<v Speaker 2>he looks reasonably young. Said no, he swears his friends

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<v Speaker 2>have never been.

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<v Speaker 5>Asked, oh, told me that you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Care a friend of a friend of a cousin.

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<v Speaker 6>He knows the iron, right, is that the younger generation

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<v Speaker 6>is supposed to be really concerned about the environment, right,

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<v Speaker 6>and yet it seems they are the ones leaving vapes everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course government's are taxing the snot out of cigarettes,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's just driven everyone to vapes, which are less

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<v Speaker 2>healthy for you and worse for the environment.

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<v Speaker 1>But they've been so stupid as to think that by

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<v Speaker 1>banning them it will fix the issue, right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>prohibition worked really well when it came to alcohol, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so hard to take a product that already exists

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<v Speaker 1>in the market and then say, well, this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be gonsky. And we know that vaping is far

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<v Speaker 1>less bad for you than smoking is. In the UK,

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<v Speaker 1>the NHS actually gives vapes out for free to people

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<v Speaker 1>who want to quit smoking. Is it is much better

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<v Speaker 1>for you, And yet the government says it's pertly okay

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<v Speaker 1>to go down to the supermarket and buy a packet

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<v Speaker 1>of fags over the counter, you know, apart from the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that the sort of hidden so you can't see

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<v Speaker 1>the front of the packet, but everyone knows you can

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<v Speaker 1>buy them legally at the supermarket, but it is literally

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<v Speaker 1>illegal to buy the product that is much safer for you,

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<v Speaker 1>that might stop you from smoking. I mean, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all about health though, isn't it. Please?

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<v Speaker 5>Of course it is to America now, where, like I said,

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<v Speaker 5>the war on coal powered gas coal rather is over.

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<v Speaker 4>In Trump's America.

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<v Speaker 5>His secretary of Energy, his name is Chris Right, is

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<v Speaker 5>Algare's worst nightmare. What we are seeing under the Trump

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<v Speaker 5>administration is him delivering on his promise to drill, baby, drill.

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<v Speaker 5>This administration only cares about affordable.

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<v Speaker 4>Reliable energy.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's Chris Right saying, Coal's going nowhere, baby.

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<v Speaker 1>The call has.

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<v Speaker 7>Been essential to the United States his energy system for

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<v Speaker 7>over one hundred years. It's been the largest source of

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<v Speaker 7>global electricity for nearly one hundred years, and it will

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<v Speaker 7>be for.

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<v Speaker 2>Decades to come.

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<v Speaker 7>So we need to be realistic about that now with coal,

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<v Speaker 7>are we going to see a renaissance in surging coal

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<v Speaker 7>production in the United States? Not likely, But we're on

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<v Speaker 7>a path to continually shrink the electricity we generate from coal.

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<v Speaker 7>That's made electricity more expensive in our grid less stable.

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<v Speaker 7>So I think the best we can hope for in

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<v Speaker 7>the short term is to stop the closure of coal

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<v Speaker 7>power plants.

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<v Speaker 4>No one has won by that action.

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<v Speaker 5>Mister wrid has announced that coal will remain the backbone

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<v Speaker 5>of America's reindustrialization. It's going absolutely nowhere. He even said

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<v Speaker 5>that some of the plants that have been shot down

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<v Speaker 5>will be reopened. Up to a quarter of US coal

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<v Speaker 5>fired power station are due to be retired by twenty

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<v Speaker 5>forty well not anymore, of course. This is a massive

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<v Speaker 5>backflip from all the green policies that the Biden Harris

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<v Speaker 5>administration pushed four years, which really trottled the American economy

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<v Speaker 5>and really limited America's companies.

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<v Speaker 4>There.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you need if you want to be a manufacturer,

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<v Speaker 5>You need power, cheap, reliable power, and lots of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, says Chris Wright.

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<v Speaker 5>Reliable energy is the goal, and that's what we're delivering on.

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<v Speaker 7>The goal is just affordable, reliable, secure energy from wherever

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<v Speaker 7>that comes from. Obviously there's going to be roles in

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<v Speaker 7>the long run for solar energy. There's places where it

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<v Speaker 7>makes tons of sense, where where the natural resources are

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<v Speaker 7>there and the infrastructure is benefited by adding.

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<v Speaker 2>More solar to the grid.

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<v Speaker 4>But I will say one.

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<v Speaker 7>Thing for sure, We're not going to go down the

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<v Speaker 7>road of Germany. You know, they spend half a trillion dollars.

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<v Speaker 7>They more than doubled their price of electricity. They actually

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<v Speaker 7>shrunk the total amount of electricity the country produces by

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<v Speaker 7>about twenty percent, and their industry is fleeing the country.

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<v Speaker 7>That's the path the United States was starting to go down.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's the wrong path. Thank god for this one eighty.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, these guys are promising to do the exact opposite

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<v Speaker 5>of the Biden Harris administration, even going so far as

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<v Speaker 5>to say all that climate fear mongering, climate change, global

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<v Speaker 5>boiling nonsense.

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<v Speaker 4>Do your research. None of it's true.

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<v Speaker 7>When you hear crazy stuff today, check it out.

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<v Speaker 4>Dig a little deeper.

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<v Speaker 7>Hurricanes are not growing, that's in the IPCC report. Tornadoes

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<v Speaker 7>are actually on the decline. Floods, droughts, all of these

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<v Speaker 7>things you hear ceaselessly, they just simply aren't so.

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<v Speaker 1>It isn't even controversial that they're not so.

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<v Speaker 7>But media politicians just continually abuse these facts.

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<v Speaker 5>What you wouldn't do to hear an ossie politician, much

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<v Speaker 5>less our energy secretary.

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<v Speaker 4>Imagine if we had a Chris.

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<v Speaker 5>Bowen figure literally spitting facts like this. That's what Trump's

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<v Speaker 5>picked in Chris, right, this is the US Energy secretary.

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<v Speaker 5>Can't wait to see what he does over the next

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<v Speaker 5>four years. Meanwhile, we're still stuck with Chris Bone.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't even have to change the Chris bit. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just the Surley, just what Bowen for, right, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're on a winner here phone him.

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<v Speaker 2>I just keep having visions of remember Scott Morrison walking

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<v Speaker 2>into Parliament on that glorious day with a piece of coal,

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<v Speaker 2>saying it's coal. It's not going to hurt you. How

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<v Speaker 2>far we've fallen from those days. But I mean America,

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<v Speaker 2>we're on track to close over the next five years

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and twenty coal fired power stations, and if

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to commit to that course of course,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very difficult doing that to then say we want

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<v Speaker 2>to be the world's leader in AI, because AI consumes

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<v Speaker 2>enormous amounts of power and they want to re establish

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<v Speaker 2>a manufacturing base, which they've been outsourcing to China for

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<v Speaker 2>all of these years. So you can't have both, right,

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<v Speaker 2>You can't have world leading in AI and lots of

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<v Speaker 2>manufacturing if you don't have cheap, reliable power. And so

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's made the decision we want economic growth, we want productivity,

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<v Speaker 2>we want prosperity, so we'll use coal. And of course

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<v Speaker 2>China in twenty twenty two, we're building a brand new sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>two coal fide power stations every week cost And so

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<v Speaker 2>Trump just understands, if you want to compete, then you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to scrap ideology. As Chris Wright explained, the ideology

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<v Speaker 2>is bunk anyway, and get on with building a prosperous economy.

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<v Speaker 2>And coal got us to hear it'll get us to

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<v Speaker 2>the future.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know where the coal comes from. That they're

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<v Speaker 1>burning overseas US buying, we're maning it. They're buying it,

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<v Speaker 1>they're burning it. They're getting the cheap power, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>over here going, oh, look at us. We're saving the

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<v Speaker 1>planet because we're not burning coal. It's the same planet.

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<v Speaker 1>We all live on, the same planet. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're burn it in China or the US. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all the same environment that we live in, right And

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned about AI. Of course, the other thing that's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in the United States at the moment is

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<v Speaker 1>companies like Microsoft are paying obscene amounts of money to

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<v Speaker 1>start up nuclear power plums because they know that that

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<v Speaker 1>will be reliable based load power that they can use

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<v Speaker 1>and have to run these big AI machines that they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to build because they need all that power. And

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<v Speaker 1>here we are saying, oh, we're going to have three

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<v Speaker 1>eyed fish and mutilated children if you talk about nuclear energy.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how ridiculous it is. And of course our

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<v Speaker 1>own governments are doing the same stuff that Chris Wright

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<v Speaker 1>is talking about here, but they do it in a

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<v Speaker 1>lamenting kind of way. I mean, you've had a Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Min stand up and say, oh, well, you know, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have to keep a rearing open longer than planned because

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<v Speaker 1>we need to make sure that we have reliable power

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<v Speaker 1>available for New South Wales. And then down in Victoria,

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<v Speaker 1>jes Cinra Allen's had to do the same with loy

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<v Speaker 1>Yang out in the gipps Land, et cetera. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>all pain to keep culified power stations opened longer than

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<v Speaker 1>they were planned to be open. But they cry about

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<v Speaker 1>it when they do it, whereas Trump and his mob

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<v Speaker 1>are saying, no, actually, we're just going to do what's

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<v Speaker 1>good for the nation. What a strange idea.

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<v Speaker 2>It's quite amazing in just a few weeks how much

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<v Speaker 2>of a difference Trump has made to the debate being

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<v Speaker 2>had right around the Western world. All of a sudden

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts that we weren't allowed to think, conversations we weren't

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to have being had, and that includes around diversity,

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<v Speaker 2>equity and inclusion. Another major corporation has walked away from DEI,

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<v Speaker 2>this time Disney, which is a miracle because if anyone

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<v Speaker 2>was committed to diversity, equity and inclusion, it was Disney.

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<v Speaker 2>But their CEO, Bob Iiger, has said that Disney's primary

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<v Speaker 2>mission needs to be get this calibern Liz entertainment. He's

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<v Speaker 2>decided making movie is about entertaining people, not trying to

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<v Speaker 2>insert ideological propaganda into the minds of people. He said.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't want to any longer be a gender driven

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<v Speaker 2>they want to be entertainment driven. As I said. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a massive departure for Disney because just a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, one of their presidents, Casey Burke, boasted that

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<v Speaker 2>they had decided fifty percent of all of their movie

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<v Speaker 2>characters needed to be either LGBTQ community members or members

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<v Speaker 2>of an ethnic minority, and one of their executives boasted

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<v Speaker 2>that they were constantly adding queerness quote unquote to Disney

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<v Speaker 2>movies without any pushback at all. And how did that

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<v Speaker 2>work out for them? Well, it was a box office disaster.

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<v Speaker 2>Deis kryptonite when it comes to attracting audiences. In twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three, Disney's biggest four movies lost a combined one

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars because it turns out people aren't entertained by DEI.

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<v Speaker 2>It ruined their family reputation. I remember Pixar put out

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<v Speaker 2>a kid's cartoon, Elemental, which featured a non binary character,

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<v Speaker 2>and can you believe parents weren't rushing to take their

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<v Speaker 2>little kids to hear that maybe they're not a boy

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<v Speaker 2>or a girl, maybe there's something else all together. And

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<v Speaker 2>of course, with Trump moving or rather moving to end

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<v Speaker 2>what he called a legal discrimination and to restore merit

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<v Speaker 2>based opportunity, Disney, like other corporations, are now a little

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<v Speaker 2>concerned that maybe their DEI policies might be found to

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<v Speaker 2>be unlawful, and so they've stepped away. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>major change. And one of the interesting things to me

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<v Speaker 2>about Trump in just his first three or four weeks

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<v Speaker 2>is we've got politicians in this country saying we don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to get involved in the culture wars. Remember Scott Morrison,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's a Christian man, but he said no, just

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<v Speaker 2>the economy. I don't want to get involved in the

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<v Speaker 2>culture wars. But Trump is taking the cultural wars head

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<v Speaker 2>on and making incredible changes and people are getting on board.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been told for years diversity, equity, and inclusion, it's vital,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so important, and then the drop of a hat,

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<v Speaker 2>these companies have just stepped right away from it.

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<v Speaker 1>May I just say we are so back, like the

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<v Speaker 1>world is just writing itself, The world is healing, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is so beautiful to watch that just one man,

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<v Speaker 1>and that all this started before he was even president,

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<v Speaker 1>had them all coming to kiss the ring. Mark Zuckerberg, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Has just managed to change the culture so much overnight.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I say change the culture, it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>we've really changed the culture. We've just gone back to

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<v Speaker 1>where we were a decade ago before we really started

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<v Speaker 1>going off the rails, right, We've just corrected course back

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<v Speaker 1>to where we always should have been. And of course

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<v Speaker 1>money talks, and that's what they have realized, is that

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<v Speaker 1>all of this pilava that they carried on with actually

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<v Speaker 1>isn't making them any money, and they never really believed it,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what's been exposed by all of this is

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<v Speaker 1>that there is no company. I don't think that genuinely

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<v Speaker 1>ever believed in the idea and the virtue of DEI.

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<v Speaker 1>But they all did it because they thought it impressed

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<v Speaker 1>all their other mates in the corporate world and that

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<v Speaker 1>this would get them all the points that would save them.

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<v Speaker 2>And Paris agreeing same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But essentially it was insurance so that when the socialists

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<v Speaker 1>eventually took over that they would be the last ones

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<v Speaker 1>that faced the acts. Well, it was never going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not making any money out of it, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>running in the other direction. Thank god for that, and

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<v Speaker 1>thank god we've got Trump there, because imagine if you'd

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<v Speaker 1>had another four years of Harris and Waltz, for goodness sake,

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<v Speaker 1>we would have gone even further down the line into

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff to I think an irreparable point basically, and

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<v Speaker 1>this was such an important moment, and we've hit it

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<v Speaker 1>and we've done it. And don't forget as well, that Disney,

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<v Speaker 1>when it was going through all this stuff actually pulled

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<v Speaker 1>advertising from X after Elon musk word it of course

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<v Speaker 1>formerly Twitter. This was his advice at the time to

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney. It would seen that

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<v Speaker 1>mister Aiga actually took his advice here.

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<v Speaker 7>There's a public perception that that was part of a

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<v Speaker 7>apology tour, if you will. This had been said online,

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<v Speaker 7>there was all of the criticism, there was advertisers leaving.

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<v Speaker 4>We talked to Bob, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't advertise, you don't want them to advertise. No, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you mean.

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<v Speaker 1>If somebody to try to blackmail me with advertising, blackmailing

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<v Speaker 1>with money golf?

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<v Speaker 2>But go yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>And who got the last laugh?

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<v Speaker 6>Huh.

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<v Speaker 5>I just love it when we see people in great

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<v Speaker 5>numbers take action, though, because while Trump is obviously the

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<v Speaker 5>figurehead of this, let's trash DEI moves, people have been

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<v Speaker 5>doing this kind of thing for a long time now.

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<v Speaker 4>We saw bud Light.

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<v Speaker 5>Go down in a spectacular fashion. We saw Target caught

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<v Speaker 5>the heat from millions of a Marria who are like,

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<v Speaker 5>why are you selling like transgender clothes or like I'm

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<v Speaker 5>transitioning and I'm a boy who wants.

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<v Speaker 4>To wear girls clothes.

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<v Speaker 5>You're literally marketing these kinds of leotides and other pieces

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<v Speaker 5>of clothing to children.

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<v Speaker 4>We're just not going to shop with you anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>We saw it when Netflix brought out this What even

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<v Speaker 5>was it?

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<v Speaker 7>Like?

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<v Speaker 5>A movie about kids who were cheerleaders who were totally

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<v Speaker 5>overly sexualized, And everyone threw their hands up in the

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<v Speaker 5>air started canceling their subscriptions on MASS.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it when we're reminded we.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually are incredibly powerful.

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<v Speaker 4>When we have the numbers.

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<v Speaker 5>All these people care about his money, and when enough

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<v Speaker 5>of us dig the knife.

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<v Speaker 4>In, they changed their minds real fast.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, last night we were talking about a asylum seeker

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<v Speaker 5>in the UK who got to stay because his son

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<v Speaker 5>didn't like the chicken nuggets back where he was from.

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<v Speaker 5>Tonight we're talking about another asylum seeker. This is a

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<v Speaker 5>forty nine year old woman who gets to stay because

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<v Speaker 5>she joined a terror group on purpose, and the judge

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<v Speaker 5>knows it in order to create a case to say, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 5>if I go back home, I'm going to be prosecuted

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<v Speaker 5>in Nigeria.

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<v Speaker 4>The judge actually acknowledged.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, I get that you've taken me for a ride here,

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<v Speaker 5>but let the woman do it anyway, quoting from the

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<v Speaker 5>judge up a upper tribunal Judge Jemma Lauren ruled that

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<v Speaker 5>the asylum seeker's activities on behalf.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the group.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the terror group Indigenous people of Biafra. Meant

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<v Speaker 5>she had a well founded fear of persecution under human

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<v Speaker 5>rights laws due to her imputed political opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>Conservative part Conservative.

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<v Speaker 5>Party leader Kemmy Badanock so I asked the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 5>to appeal this crazy court decision that allows people from

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<v Speaker 5>Gaza to use the Ukrainian family scheme. He repeatedly refuse

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<v Speaker 5>to say whether the government had or would. This sets

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<v Speaker 5>a bad precedent legalism before national interests.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a lawyer, not a leader, and we know he

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<v Speaker 4>was a pierce poor lawyer when he was that.

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<v Speaker 5>So these guys are fully aware of the insane loopholes.

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<v Speaker 5>These people have come to their country. They're soaking up

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<v Speaker 5>all the UK taxpayer pounds, they don't give a rats

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<v Speaker 5>about anything else, and then they're exploiting the most obvious loopholes.

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<v Speaker 5>Remember we had Muslims suddenly converting to Christianity saying well,

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<v Speaker 5>you can't send me back to my Muslim country because

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<v Speaker 5>now are we prosecuted. Yeah, you had a real come

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<v Speaker 5>to Jesus moment, didn't you.

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<v Speaker 4>These guys are taking the mick.

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<v Speaker 5>And as we were discussing last night with regards to

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<v Speaker 5>mister chicken nugget, it's only Western countries who are stupid

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<v Speaker 5>enough to give them the time of day.

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<v Speaker 2>This Nigerian woman, she failed in her asylum seeker claim

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<v Speaker 2>and then she appealed once twice, three times, four times,

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<v Speaker 2>five times, six times, seven times, eight times. She appealed,

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<v Speaker 2>lost every appeal and then came up with this genius idea.

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<v Speaker 2>If I join a terrorist group in Nigeria but it's

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<v Speaker 2>not listed as a terror group in the UK, then

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<v Speaker 2>they can't send me back because I'll be prosecuted. As

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<v Speaker 2>you said, Liz, the judges agreed this was a croc,

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<v Speaker 2>but they also decided, however, we can't send her back.

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<v Speaker 2>What sort of system allows somebody to appeal eight times times?

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, what sort of a system allows

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<v Speaker 2>some people to remain in the country after they lose

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 2>their asylum seeker claim for ten years? Yes, well, the

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<v Speaker 2>court process plays out. Here's another question, how did she

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<v Speaker 2>forward all those appeals? I mean she would have needed

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<v Speaker 2>legal representation, right, Well, I guess the UK taxpayer was

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<v Speaker 2>funding all those appeals over ten years when she was

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 2>probably receiving welfare. And finally, we're in a situation now

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 2>where judges are essentially running and deciding policy on who

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<v Speaker 2>will be here. Politicians aren't brave enough to step out

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<v Speaker 2>and make the decisions, as you said, Kirs Starmer is

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<v Speaker 2>just playing mute on this, and so the judiciary of

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<v Speaker 2>deciding policy.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you mean to tell me it's not the Biafran

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<v Speaker 1>terrorists who paid for all those appeals. I can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it is absurd on so many levels, because

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<v Speaker 1>if she can do it, then why can't anyone Why, Well,

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the Nigeria right could just upsticks tomorrow, move to the

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<v Speaker 1>UK and say they're all members of the indigenous peoples

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<v Speaker 1>of Biafra.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the fastest growing terror group in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, and then how could you deny them asylum status? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>That seems to be the president that's been set here.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a couple of things that need to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>One needs to be if you've appealed a decision and

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<v Speaker 1>you lose that set I mean, I don't know of

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<v Speaker 1>any other court where you just keep appealing and appealing

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>and appealing and appealing and appealing, and once your appeal

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>has been lost, if it goes through an appeals court,

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>you can, perhaps I'm talking an Australian context here, you

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>can go to the High Court. That's probably your last option,

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>right and then once you're done there, it's over. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't appeal eight times something in Australia, so don't understand

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 1>why you can do that in the UK. But if

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<v Speaker 1>we get into a weird pickle like this, surely the

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<v Speaker 1>UK ought to be able to say, and there should

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<v Speaker 1>be laws to the effect that say, okay, you are

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<v Speaker 1>a member of the terror group. Therefore we will say

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<v Speaker 1>that we're not going to send you back to Nigeria

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<v Speaker 1>because you will probably be executed or whatever it is

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 1>when you get back there, but you're going to go

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 1>to jail while you're here. These are two options. You

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<v Speaker 1>can go back to Nigeria or you can sit in

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<v Speaker 1>a jail.

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<v Speaker 5>Here and then just be living on the tax payer time.

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<v Speaker 5>Welle are bulging. That's where the rubber liseral criminal.

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<v Speaker 1>This is but that's where rubber would hit the road.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where the rubber would hit the road. Because

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<v Speaker 1>you then have to make a decision about do I

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<v Speaker 1>want to live in Nigeria with freedom or do I

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 1>want to live in a UK prison? Now, if your

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<v Speaker 1>number one problem is that you can't get three square

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<v Speaker 1>meals to day, then maybe you'll take the prison, But

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<v Speaker 1>I think most people would go Actually, I'd rather live

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere I can move around freely. It's a deterrance, is

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<v Speaker 1>what it needs to be to stop people from going there.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact that that you could even get into

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<v Speaker 1>a position like this in the first place, and that

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<v Speaker 1>a judge after eight goes would be like a.

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<v Speaker 2>In your cup, you know, with the whole appeals process, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't help. But when I was reading this story,

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<v Speaker 2>think about cricket, because you know, we're just coming out

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 2>of cricket season, and you know, when you believe it's out,

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<v Speaker 2>your appeal right, But could you imagine you just appeal

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<v Speaker 2>over and over and over again until finally the umpire

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 2>agrees with that. That would be ridiculous in cricket. But

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 2>this is what we're doing in immigration policy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the good thing about the Decision Review system, the DRS. Right,

0:31:56.960 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>you've only got three goes through the entire which knows

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>your point, and if you fail, you lose an option

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 1>to use it and the other thing. Of course, you

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>said she's been there all this time. They do exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing here in Australia. I mean, look at

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the example of the Biluilla family right where they come

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 1>to Australia and then we assess their asylum application while

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 1>they're on shore. That process for whatever reason, because because

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 1>we don't have enough public servants in this country, takes

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>forever to do and then they go. But we've been

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<v Speaker 1>living here for teen years now, it's taking you this

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<v Speaker 1>long to tell us that we're not exactly exactly and

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 1>now you're telling us we have to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>a country to which we no longer have any connection.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like we set it up for them so they

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<v Speaker 1>can do it. Just absolutely ridiculous. Now we know about

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<v Speaker 1>the scourge of anti Semitism in this country. You've seen

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<v Speaker 1>the video that came out yesterday of those two nurses.

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<v Speaker 1>It is absolutely a problem. But I think one too

0:32:55.640 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>many times we've been looking for solutions that aren't really solution. Yes,

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>anti Semitism is a problem, but do we not already

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>have laws and rules and regulations that could deal with

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>this people? Why do we keep saying we need to

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<v Speaker 1>bolster the laws, when actually it seemed in many cases

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 1>the laws haven't been applied at all, either police or

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 1>the DPP have been too afraid to use them, or

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<v Speaker 1>in the case I'm about to talk about, employers just

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to get rid of anti Semitic people because

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<v Speaker 1>they actually agree with them. Now we come to the

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 1>universities here in this country. We sat, of course, the

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 1>encampments that happened over in the United States. We saw

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>similar protests and carry on at universities here in Australia.

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:43.000
<v Speaker 1>You've had academics and many people say things that are

0:33:43.040 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>outright anti Semitic, and yes they've still got their jobs.

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:51.479
<v Speaker 1>So a Parliamentary Committee into Human Rights has come together

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<v Speaker 1>and said, well, we should bolster the laws to allow

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the universities to sack these people. Here's the chair of

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 1>that committee, Josh Burns.

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<v Speaker 3>And regardless of ever wins the election, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that these students behind me and all of

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 3>their colleagues and every single student the Tends University is safe.

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 3>So this is not the end of the matter. We

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:15.360
<v Speaker 3>are watching universities. It is up to them to act

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 3>and to take this more seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely right. Any Jewish student should feel safe, Any

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 1>student should feel safe. I mean, how ridiculous that we

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 1>had the idea yesterday that universities are going to start

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:32.279
<v Speaker 1>having safe spaces that are guarded for Jewish students. I mean,

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:34.319
<v Speaker 1>if ever there was an admission that there is a

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 1>problem with antisemitism on campus, it is that. But surely

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 1>if a member of staff, just like here or anywhere

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:46.240
<v Speaker 1>else or any other workplace, is found to be discriminating

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 1>against other people on campus or is outwardly racist, they

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 1>can be sacked for the act of discrimination or the

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 1>act of bringing their employer into disrepute. I think too

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<v Speaker 1>often it's same. I think with the hate speech laws

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:04.240
<v Speaker 1>that we talked about last week, where we go, Okay,

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 1>we've got a problem with racism here, but we've already

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:10.720
<v Speaker 1>got laws to deal with that. No one actually wants

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>to do it, and we go, okay, we need to

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>bolster the laws for the universities. But the universities then

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 1>have to actually want to sack these people. That's the

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:20.840
<v Speaker 1>problem is they haven't wanted to say. You can change

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the law all you want, but if the people who

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 1>apply the laws aren't willing to apply the laws, when

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>you could have a law saying that it's illegal to

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 1>spit in the street, you'll be sent to jail. But

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 1>if the coppers don't want to stop you from doing it,

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 1>well it's not going to change anything. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that's the position we've come to.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's exactly the position we're in. It's easier

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 2>to make new laws, and make new laws, and make.

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 1>New laws and actually deal with the problem for item.

0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Then actually enforce existing laws. And they're scared of enforcing

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 2>existing laws because if they enforce them then just maybe

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<v Speaker 2>there'll be an uproar, and they don't want to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with that. I remember being at a pro Palestinian rally

0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 2>and there are a whole bunch of cops. This is

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 2>when they first started and were huge, And I said

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:03.959
<v Speaker 2>to one of the police officers, if someone starts yelling

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<v Speaker 2>kill the Jews or whatever, will you arrest them? And

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<v Speaker 2>he said, I'll speak to my superior And I said,

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<v Speaker 2>why wouldn't you immediately do something? He said, look, how

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 2>many people are here. If I do anything, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to create pandemonium. And that's what we had with vice

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 2>chancellors on university campuses. Mark Scott said he didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to close down the pro Palestinian encampment which was harassing

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Jewish students. Jewish students stopped going to Sydney University because

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't want to walk through that encampment where they're harassed.

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<v Speaker 2>And Mark Scott, the vice chancellor, said he didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to do anything because he feared it could get violent.

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<v Speaker 2>So because of threats of violence, he allowed the intimidation

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<v Speaker 2>to continue. He didn't want to enforce existing laws. It's

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<v Speaker 2>easier just to keep making new ones that are never enforced.

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<v Speaker 5>Ondred percent And let's be very clear about the fact

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<v Speaker 5>that for the purposes of the law, racism is racism.

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<v Speaker 5>So there I don't believe should be any anti Semitic

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<v Speaker 5>specific laws in this country because at the end of

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<v Speaker 5>the day, racism is racism before the law. All racism

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 5>is equal if you are being singled out due.

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<v Speaker 4>To the color of your skin or your religion.

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<v Speaker 5>Like you say, Caleb, we already have these laws now,

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<v Speaker 5>whether you believe or not they should exist. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>free speech absoluteness here, hate speech is free speech, and

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<v Speaker 5>vice versa. You either have both or you have neither.

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<v Speaker 5>Make up your minds. So for them to come out

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<v Speaker 5>and be like, oh, now we're changing this. Now we're

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 5>changing that. We've already changed the hate speech laws. These

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 5>guys are simply doing this as a virtue signaling exercise.

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<v Speaker 5>And when they don't and they actually do make more laws,

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's utterly ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and don't forget. On Sky News next Thursday, Sherry

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Marxon will be hosting an anti Semitism summit. John Howard

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 2>and your South Wales Premier Chris Mins will be amongst

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 2>those speaking. You won't want to miss that. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to go to a break. When we come back to

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<v Speaker 2>look at what's making news tomorrow, including that incident between

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<v Speaker 2>the Chinese fighter jet and the left plane that has

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<v Speaker 2>caused the Albanzi government to protest to Beijing. All of

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 2>that and more interest a money, welcome back. Let's take

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 2>a look at what's making news tomorrow. This story you've

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<v Speaker 2>got the Australian.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes they do, James mcphurst, well, thank you so much.

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 5>Unsafe Australia's blast for Beijing over flair drop on our

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:33.760
<v Speaker 5>double af plane. The Albanese government has lodged an official

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<v Speaker 5>protest with Beijing after a Chinese fighter.

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<v Speaker 8>Jet fired flares in front of an R double AF

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<v Speaker 8>surveillance aircraft over the South China Sea and a dangerous

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<v Speaker 8>incident that risked the lives of up to a dozen Australians.

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<v Speaker 5>The Chinese J sixteen fighter shot the flares within thirty

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<v Speaker 5>meters of an Australian aircraft in an unsafe and unprofessional maneuver.

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<v Speaker 4>Now Defense Minister Richard.

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<v Speaker 5>Miles has said this could most definitely have gone very

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<v Speaker 5>badly had those flares actually made contact with our aircraft.

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<v Speaker 5>And so they're conveying to China how disgruntled we all

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<v Speaker 5>are back home about this incident.

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<v Speaker 4>But here's China's.

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<v Speaker 5>Spokesperson for their defense department giving their side of the story,

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<v Speaker 5>which sounds very different.

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<v Speaker 9>The Australian military airplane deliberately intruded into China's airspace over

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:34.680
<v Speaker 9>Sisa Tenda without China's permission. Such a more violated China's

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:41.320
<v Speaker 9>sovereignty and undermined China's national security. The Chinese side took legitimate, lawful,

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<v Speaker 9>professional and the restraint measures to expel the airplane.

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<v Speaker 5>Gas lading as its finest. These guys are amazing at this.

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:53.439
<v Speaker 5>I love reading like the South China posts and all

0:39:53.480 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 5>their literally just CCP mouthpiece versions of every story of

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<v Speaker 5>the interactions between Australia and China.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just incredible.

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<v Speaker 5>If you were Chinese in China, you would think that

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<v Speaker 5>we were just the most overbearing, ungracious, constantly poking them

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<v Speaker 5>for no reason country ever.

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<v Speaker 1>And you'll also be on the deep seak finding out

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 1>that Anthony Albanesi is the best Australian Prime minister ever.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that you referred to the spokesperson as a

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<v Speaker 1>spokesperson and said they instead of him or she, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they appear to be somewhat non binary because you

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<v Speaker 1>look at it, you'd think it's a bloke and then

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 1>he opens his mouth and it's a female voice, so

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 1>you know they've got non binary people in China out.

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<v Speaker 1>Communists are really progressive, aren't they. But our plane are

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<v Speaker 1>out of Our double af plane was over international territory

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. China, of course is all it's our

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<v Speaker 1>territory because they think they own the entirety of the

0:40:56.719 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 1>South China Sea. This has been in contingent for a

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<v Speaker 1>long obviously, but they don't own it. They do not

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<v Speaker 1>own the South China Sea. They've been trying to expand

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<v Speaker 1>into it for a long time, and just because you

0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 1>say it belongs to you, it doesn't mean it belongs

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<v Speaker 1>to you. You've intimidated us for long enough. And I

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<v Speaker 1>understand it might be easier to do that with the

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Albanezi government in power, because you know, he just comes

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:23.719
<v Speaker 1>over and talks to g about how cute pandas are

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 1>or are not. But seriously, to think that you can

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<v Speaker 1>actually do this in international waters and get away with it,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got another thing coming, or more to the point,

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 1>they should have another thing coming, but that won't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Will say, oh, we're very upset about this, but that'll

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<v Speaker 1>be the end of it.

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<v Speaker 2>The only good thing about this story is that this

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<v Speaker 2>just happened on Tuesday, so what two days ago. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little bit encouraging to see the Albanezi government

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<v Speaker 2>actually acknowledging that it happened within forty eight hours and

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:57.280
<v Speaker 2>making a statement about it, because they've been previous incidents

0:41:57.560 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 2>where we haven't found out about it four weeks. Even then,

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 2>we learned that the Abanezi government has been mute on

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:09.320
<v Speaker 2>the issue. So at least the government has laudged a protest,

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 2>which is more than they did within a short space

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<v Speaker 2>of time in previous events. Why are you smirking at

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<v Speaker 2>Melzi because.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just so funny. We're just so small and helpless

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 4>as at a middle hour. So we're just like we

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 4>just launched.

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<v Speaker 5>We put a little like slip into their feedback box,

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 5>like if you could not almost kill us when we're

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<v Speaker 5>just you know, over international waters, which we're supposed to

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:34.480
<v Speaker 5>be playing chaeresis with China, that would be so nice,

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:37.839
<v Speaker 5>and they're like stuff, you you were in our territory.

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<v Speaker 4>We had to defend ourselves, and we're.

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<v Speaker 5>Just like, oh yeah, okay, well we tried do the

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<v Speaker 5>second splash on the front of the oars. No limits

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<v Speaker 5>forty four billion dollars NDIS therefore all hang on what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>To Bill Shorten's promises.

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<v Speaker 5>NDIS Minister Amanda Rishworth there's a new kid in town,

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<v Speaker 5>says there will be no tightening of which disabilities are

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<v Speaker 5>eligible for the forty four billion dollar scheme, despite the

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:10.320
<v Speaker 5>government facing a mammoth effort to rein in costs with labor,

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 5>instead to launch a new panel to review contestable services

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:21.359
<v Speaker 5>and programs participants are using. So Bill Shorten flagged late

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:24.520
<v Speaker 5>last year that eligibility changes.

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<v Speaker 4>Try saying that five.

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:29.359
<v Speaker 5>Times fast were in the works, because how else are

0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:31.840
<v Speaker 5>you going to reduce the giant black hole in the

0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:37.839
<v Speaker 5>budget that is NDIS spending. Amanda Rishworth has now succeeded

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 5>the throne of NDIS Minister and she's saying, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>doing no such thing.

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<v Speaker 4>What really struck me.

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<v Speaker 5>About this article, though, was further down when it says,

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<v Speaker 5>of six million Australians with a disability, Hello, in five

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<v Speaker 5>of us has a disability?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it a typo? No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's a clue as to why they can't cut

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:08.000
<v Speaker 2>it right, Because when you've got one in five Australians

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 2>classifying as having a disability and you say we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to start cutting the d that tells destroyer right.

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<v Speaker 5>So that tells you that the eligibility what classifies as

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<v Speaker 5>a disability is utterly ridiculous.

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Boys aged five to eleven on the nd I s.

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<v Speaker 2>But once you set up a system and you allow

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<v Speaker 2>everybody on it, how politically do you then take people

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<v Speaker 2>off of it without suffering electoral pain. So their solution

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:37.720
<v Speaker 2>is they're going to love this that they're going to launch.

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 2>They're going to launch a panel and because.

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to launch a rocket.

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<v Speaker 2>Love that, right, So we're going to appoint a panel

0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 2>and then they'll just say, well, the panel have advised,

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the panel have said they absolve themselves this responsibility.

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<v Speaker 1>A fifth of Australians being disabled to a stat I

0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 1>assume it must include old people like you've got arthritis.

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<v Speaker 4>Even then come on one in fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I know, but that's what I mean. I think

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:06.320
<v Speaker 1>that must be how they classify it, because you wouldn't

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:10.759
<v Speaker 1>say I will tell you what needs to be done

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 1>with the NDAs. You could fix it. Well, you could

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 1>fix a lot of it overnight. Is just look at

0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:17.680
<v Speaker 1>the fact that as soon as the NDAs came into being,

0:45:18.200 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 1>autism diagnoses which is why one in ten boys are on,

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:23.360
<v Speaker 1>it just went like that. As soon as the indias

0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 1>came on, diagnoses went like that. And parents stand over

0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:30.520
<v Speaker 1>clinicians and tell them, if you don't give my kid

0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:33.360
<v Speaker 1>a diagnosis, there will be trouble. That is what is

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 1>going on. You ask people who are going to suspect.

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<v Speaker 2>What courage parents to get the diagnosis because then.

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<v Speaker 1>They get money. I know. It's an absolute joke. The

0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Daily Telegraph tomorrow, says our dear Auntie. The ABC costs

0:45:44.719 --> 0:45:47.680
<v Speaker 1>each Australian household more than the price of a Netflix subscription,

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:51.439
<v Speaker 1>but four in ten Australians never watch, listen or read

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 1>anything the broadcaster does. This is new. Numbers have shown

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:57.840
<v Speaker 1>that they've lost a million viewers or listeners in a

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:02.399
<v Speaker 1>year with theirs plummeting, and of course they get more

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:05.880
<v Speaker 1>money than ever. It's really worth our time, isn't it. Seriously?

0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:08.440
<v Speaker 2>One hundred and five dollars a year we pay for

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:12.960
<v Speaker 2>the ABC each compared to ninety six dollars for Netflix subscriptions.

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 1>So remember that it used to be what was it

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:17.560
<v Speaker 1>seven cents a day or something they used to tell us.

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Obviously there's been a bit of inflation going on since

0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:21.560
<v Speaker 1>just a tad.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the ABC will be a lot better just as

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:26.640
<v Speaker 2>soon as they get more money they cost that every court. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to go to a break when we come back.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've ever wondered if we're sending our best into politics,

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:35.319
<v Speaker 2>well we've got a video that proves conclusively we are not.

0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:41.719
<v Speaker 2>That video is coming up. Okay, are we sending our

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:44.880
<v Speaker 2>best people into politics? I'm not so sure. Caleb watching

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 2>American politics.

0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Now we should be sending them to the moon. I think. Now, look,

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:49.760
<v Speaker 1>bear with me, you never.

0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:51.279
<v Speaker 4>Sent anyone to them.

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't move on anyway. This sounds incredibly dry, incredibly

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 1>incredibly dry, but bear with me because it builds up

0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:03.839
<v Speaker 1>to the greatest punchline of all time. There is a

0:47:03.880 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Democratic woman House member in the United States, Jan Schikowski. Right.

0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:12.520
<v Speaker 1>She is addressing a subcommittee of the Commerce, Manufacturing and

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Trade Committee. This is called the AI in Manufacturing Securing

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 1>American Leadership in Manufacturing and the Next Generation of Technologies

0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:24.920
<v Speaker 1>sub Committee. Now watch this clip. Please bear with me,

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:27.960
<v Speaker 1>because she builds up too. I am telling you the

0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:28.880
<v Speaker 1>best punchline.

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<v Speaker 10>Listen, I met with a manufacturing company, but they also

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:41.280
<v Speaker 10>are engaged in getting young people more engaged in manufacturing.

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:46.799
<v Speaker 10>So I asked them, so, how many of those students

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:50.319
<v Speaker 10>that are signing up and want to do this, how

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:56.160
<v Speaker 10>many are women? And they said, well, I know there's

0:47:56.200 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 10>at least thirteen percent or something, a low number. And

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:07.240
<v Speaker 10>you had mentioned trying to engage more women in manufacturing.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm just wondering if just the name manufacturing sounds like

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:14.920
<v Speaker 10>a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done. I am done all of that to build

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:24.040
<v Speaker 1>up to is the problem that manufacturing has men in

0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:24.439
<v Speaker 1>the world.

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<v Speaker 4>We just have to.

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:28.279
<v Speaker 5>We have to change the word, and then women will

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<v Speaker 5>want to do it.

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:31.480
<v Speaker 4>That's how stupid they are. We just need to change the.

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<v Speaker 5>Term and then they will join manufacturing en mass by

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:38.719
<v Speaker 5>a different name. Before we leave you tonight, get a load.

0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:39.279
<v Speaker 4>Of this kid.

0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:42.600
<v Speaker 5>It is Elon Musk four year old son known as

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:47.320
<v Speaker 5>Little X. He's attending a press conference in the Oval

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<v Speaker 5>Office next to Donald Trump, and he had.

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<v Speaker 4>A few words to say to the President.

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<v Speaker 7>Imagine they're going down the groceryil and the prices from

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<v Speaker 7>one year to the next are the same.

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<v Speaker 2>And there, and they're there the mortgage all their.

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<v Speaker 1>Dead payments dropped. How great is that for the iriage American?

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<v Speaker 5>Not only did he just tell the president to shut up,

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<v Speaker 5>then he fetches a booger and wipes it on the

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<v Speaker 5>resolute desk.

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<v Speaker 4>There, kid's got aura.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, sorry, sorry, unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so we've got time for sticking around. Coming up

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<v Speaker 2>is to readA Penney show. Have a great weekend,