1 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Fear and Green Summer Series. I'm Michael 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Thompson and good morning Sean. 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: Aylmer. Good morning, Michael, and good morning to you. 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 3: Adam Lang, Good morning, Michael, Good morning Sean. 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: Today we are looking back at the stories of twenty 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: twenty five and we are picking out the good news stories. 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: These are the ones that they're pretty positive, right, or 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: they're exciting, or they just made us feel good, or 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: are the stories that mattered to us through It's a 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: very broad category, this one. I'm going to if I 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: can go first, because I've chosen something very specific, very literal, 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: and I know that you two have not You've got 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: in a different direction altogether. But okay, but look, I mean, 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: as someone who they look I like to deal in fiction. 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: I've written a couple of books, How to Be Remembered, 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: All the Perfect Days. 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. 18 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: And the thing is you can buy them through bookshops 19 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: or online or whatever and send them to me and 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: I'll sign them all that kind of anyway. 21 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: Look, you know what, that's important to get them back. 22 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: I'll keep them and resell them. 23 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: There we go. It's harder. 24 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: It's hard to imagine a better news story than one 25 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: that's got sunken treasure and mystery and untold riches in it, right, 26 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: And so that's why I think the story of the 27 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: San Jose, the fabled holy Grail of shipwrecks, that we 28 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: talked about this year, is just such a good news. 29 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: The coast of Columbia, that's right, where more than three 30 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: centuries after the Spanish galleon was sunk by the British, 31 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: Columbian scientists have finally lifted the first treasures from the shipwreck. 32 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: It's six hundred meters down. That is, that's pretty deep 33 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: by no depths. That's that's pretty deep. They removed a cannon, 34 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: they removed three gold coins, and they removed a delicate 35 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: porcelain cup. 36 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: Is there any other type? No, no, there is not. 37 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: Actually you get like from the reject shop. You can 38 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: get quite hardy porcelain cups. This is quite delicate because 39 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: it's been under the sea now for three hundred years. 40 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: It's just a taste of what is on board this ship. 41 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: Because it is believed to hold up to eleven million 42 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: gold and silver coins and emeralds galore worth thirty billion dollars. 43 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: The location of the San Jose as a state secret, 44 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: and it is a heck of a story, nearly as 45 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: good a story as all the perfect days of how 46 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: to be remembered. 47 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: Oh my word, Adam. 48 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 3: Okay, slight change of tach from me for me the 49 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: good news story of the year. Is this as good 50 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: as it gets? So by that, I mean are we 51 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: in an economic sweet spot? Unemployment, economic growth, inflation? So 52 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 3: I haven't have a listening to these numbers. Oh god, 53 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: here we go, go on numbers, numbers, numbers. 54 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: And a novel's worth of data for us. 55 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: Here Reserve bank cash rate three point six percent, pretty 56 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: good interest rate. We'd love it to be low if 57 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 3: you hold debt, but if you're not holding debt, it's 58 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: pretty good. Inflation three point eight. Bureau Statistics tells us 59 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 3: we've got twenty seven point five million in this country 60 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: and it continues to grow. A gross domestic product is 61 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 3: at a measly point four but it's still growth. Sorry. Yeah, 62 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: for the quarter, average weekly earnings at twenty ten dollars 63 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: a week. An unemployment rate, how's this four point three? 64 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 3: That is incredible? So these numbers, if you looked at 65 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: that as just a school board, you go, maybe that's 66 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: as good as we've had it. I'd love to think 67 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: it's not as good as we'll ever get. But is 68 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: it as good as we've had. 69 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 4: Since? Since? 70 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: When do these stories like dull? How about talk about yourselves? 71 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 4: The good news story, good news story, as far as 72 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 4: I'm concerned, I tried too shore. 73 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: I tried to talk about. 74 00:03:54,960 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 4: Myself and I'm talking about consumer pricing deeds. The good 75 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 4: news story for twenty twenty five is that work from 76 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 4: home works. And Jackie and I went overseas and worked 77 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 4: from the south of France for. 78 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: Six for six weeks. That's the good news story. Sorry, 79 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: I mean I've missed that. 80 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 4: We have shown we both have jobs obviously, Yeah, vers 81 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 4: is important mine just you two. I'm not sure we 82 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 4: managed to work from the south of France. We'd spend 83 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 4: Monday to Friday doing work. We'd go away for weekends 84 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 4: and trink a lot of raisa. I mean that, my friends, 85 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 4: is the good news work from home looking after yourselves 86 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 4: forgetting about everyone else, being totally selfish. 87 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: That is my good news story of the year. But 88 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: is it. 89 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: Selfish or is it you know? Is it also inspirational? 90 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: Well? 91 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 4: Depending, I mean, for those of you who don't know 92 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 4: JACKI and I have eight children between us. They're now 93 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 4: twenty seven to seventeen. They've been living with us for 94 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 4: many years. We needed to get away every one of 95 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 4: our generation that we've done it to have just gone wow, 96 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: did it work? 97 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 2: Can we do it? 98 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: Adam, you were the same, You were like, yeah, oh 99 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 4: my god, could we do that? 100 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: I just wanted to know, as an experiment, how did 101 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: you do it? Because to me, I'd love to think 102 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: I could do it one day. 103 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,119 Speaker 4: And Michael, you could do it in like twenty years. 104 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, something to work towards twenty short years, twenty short years. 105 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: But my favorite like, it does require a lot of 106 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: kind of adaptability and you need to kind of roll 107 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: with it. 108 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: Don't you, Sean. And the highlight for me being the. 109 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: Show the podcast that you recorded in a toilet in Morocco, 110 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: which was just must which was that is one of 111 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: my all time favorite professional stories that I will tell 112 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: every year from now on. 113 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: So can I give you one more? 114 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: Just so. 115 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: No, no, I'm going to go totally personal on this one. 116 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: It was at the moment when I was explaining to 117 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: someone I was about to go to Perth for my 118 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 3: forty year school reunion, and the lady I was talking 119 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: to Amy, she's probably about thirty, and I said, going 120 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: to Perth tomorrow to my forty year school reunion. And 121 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: she said, oh, are there. 122 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: Many of you still left? You where you can go? 123 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: I just well, actually, I'm glad to say that, yes, 124 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: many of us still left a few good news stories 125 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: for the year. 126 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Sean, Thanks Michael, Thanks Adam, Thank 127 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: you Adam. 128 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 3: Thank you Sean, and thank you Michael. 129 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: And don't forget to hit follow on the podcast. New 130 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: episodes every day during our summer series and regular shows 131 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: are back from January twelve. I'm Michael Thompson and this 132 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: is Fear and Great