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Speaker 1: Welcome to Healthy is your podcast from Body and Soul.

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Speaker 1: I am your host of Felicity Harley. To celebrate summer,

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Speaker 1: we're dropping our top healthiest episodes of the year, the

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Speaker 1: ones you love now Wow you listeners adore Lizellas. This

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Speaker 1: episode went so well we did drop it back in

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Speaker 1: January where she was hosting Gladiators and the former netball legend.

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Speaker 1: She's actually the most capped Australian netball player in history.

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Speaker 1: Liz discusses how she unwittingly empowers many women by being

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Speaker 1: open and honest, and also she adds a few tips

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Speaker 1: on how she stays fit in her fifties. Make sure

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Speaker 1: you listening to our big sister podcast Extra Healthy Ish,

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Speaker 1: where she shares more about how she's embracing midlife like

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Speaker 1: a queen. Thank you for joining us on Healthy Ish.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me now welcomeratulations. Firstly on your new

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Speaker 1: TV show. Now, I almost think you're a bit of

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Speaker 1: a gladiator yourself. I mean, you've entertained audiences in various

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Speaker 1: forms over the years, but thanks to I'm a Celeb,

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Speaker 1: you've become this voice for women in their forties and fifties.

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Speaker 1: How does this sit with you.

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Speaker 2: I guess it's still a bit of a surprise.

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Speaker 3: I think the whole I'm a celebrity thing, I didn't

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Speaker 3: really give any thought to what it would be like afterwards,

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Speaker 3: and I literally just went into the jungle trying to

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Speaker 3: not embarrass my kids or my husband. I certainly didn't

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Speaker 3: go in there thinking I'm going to set myself up

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Speaker 2: Women in their forties and fifties.

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Speaker 3: But I guess because I went in there just trying

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Speaker 3: to be honest, and I don't have much of a

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Speaker 3: filter anyway, but I just tried to be honest about

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Speaker 3: the things that, you know, that happened to us or

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Speaker 3: my life that I think it probably resonated with a

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Speaker 3: lot of women. So to come out and find that

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Speaker 3: lots of women really enjoyed hearing or enjoyed seeing someone

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Speaker 3: that was a bit like themselves, you know, that had

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Speaker 3: fertility issues or you know, trying to deal with the

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Speaker 3: kids as they head grow up and head towards puberty

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Speaker 3: and all that sort of thing that I'm.

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Speaker 2: Glad it resonated.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I didn't sort of set out for that,

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Speaker 3: But I guess if you find yourself on something like

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Speaker 3: I'm a celebrity and you're honest. People are either going

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Speaker 3: it's either going to resonate with people or they just

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Speaker 3: won't like you. So I'm glad it was the former

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Speaker 3: and not the latter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I feel like we don't have enough

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Speaker 1: women out there in their forties and fifties telling it

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Speaker 1: how it is and you know, and being a real

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Speaker 1: and vulnerable about what they've been through. Have you always

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Speaker 1: been like this? Have you always been no filter putting

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Speaker 2: Always? Yeah, it does.

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Speaker 3: My husband's heading it's the opposite, so he's like, why

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Speaker 3: did you say that?

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Speaker 2: Like it's the truth, babe.

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Speaker 3: So you know, yeah, And I think also like we

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Speaker 3: don't hear lots of voices of women who are our

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Speaker 3: age out there. But also the platforms just st aren't there.

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Speaker 3: So when you get the opportunity on a platform like

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Speaker 3: I'm a Celebrity to say it how it is, at

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Speaker 3: the older I get, the less I care about what

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Speaker 3: about me, in terms of being honest. So, you know,

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Speaker 3: the other interesting thing about doing I'm a celeb was

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Speaker 3: that I chose share the dignity as my charity, and

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Speaker 3: it was really interesting getting feedback from Rachelle Courtney, who

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Speaker 3: founded WHO, said that when she first started Share the Dignity,

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Speaker 3: she couldn't get on to mainstream TV, especially breakfast or

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Speaker 3: you couldn't talk about periods on time television or god

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Speaker 3: for me, breakfast television. And yet so she was happy

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Speaker 3: that we were able to talk about periods and period

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Speaker 3: poverty and menstruation and pregnancy loss and all the sort

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Speaker 3: of stuff that we often don't hear about because it

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Speaker 3: Whereas you know, this sort of stuff affects half half

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Speaker 3: the adult population, so we should actually be talking about it. So,

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Speaker 3: you know, I think having getting the opportunity to go on,

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Speaker 3: really grateful that I've got that platform to talk about

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Speaker 1: Actually, that's a good point. I mean, you know, I

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Speaker 1: suppose I've been in women's lifestyle publications for years, so

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Speaker 1: talking about periods and mens duration and miscarriages and IVF

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Speaker 3: Now they don't, and I think it's something that we think.

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Speaker 3: I think traditionally has been oh, well, women should have

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Speaker 3: these conversations, But these are conversations through everybody, because you

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Speaker 3: need men to be and men get affected by infertility,

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Speaker 3: whether it's them that who are infertile, or it's their partner,

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Speaker 3: and you know, it's and often we think it's women's issues,

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Speaker 3: but it's everybody's issues, you know. And the more we

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Speaker 3: think about the language that we use around these things,

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Speaker 3: and you know, when you suffer pregnancy loss and it's

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Speaker 3: and you're part of a couple, it's deeply affecting for

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Speaker 2: It's not just the women's issues.

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Speaker 3: So I do feel really grateful that we're able to

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Speaker 2: You know. One of the things that came out of

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Speaker 3: You know, when Deb Lawrence and I were talking about

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Speaker 3: and we didn't know anything, but you know, Channel ten

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Speaker 3: put some up to Pink Elephants to the miscarriage Support Network,

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Speaker 3: and you know, Dev and I have both been in

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Speaker 3: So I think it's not only having the platform, but

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Speaker 3: having that platform be sensitive to these sort of things.

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Speaker 3: That's so important. And I'm just super grateful that we're

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Speaker 3: able to talk about that stuff and it made it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and well, thank you for doing that. I

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Speaker 1: think you helped a lot of women, you know, feel

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Speaker 1: seen and heard now onto gladiators. I actually sat down

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Speaker 1: with my husband, and we couldn't get over it. Well, firstly,

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Speaker 1: how fit and incredibly strong everyone was. And actually my husband,

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Speaker 1: who you know, kept saying I would have been so

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Yeah, Exa, you can't help yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what do you think you you know,

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Speaker 3: Oh? Look, I was never particularly musty or anything like that,

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Speaker 3: but I had lots of mongrel, so I know I'm strong,

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Speaker 2: And Maximus and guys like that.

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Speaker 3: So I would have loved to have been a contender

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Speaker 2: To take people like that on.

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Speaker 3: Having said that, now I'm much happy to be wearing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can hear that.

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Speaker 1: I hear you on that one. How do you keep

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Speaker 1: fitting strong now in your fifties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I get a lot of incidental exercise.

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Speaker 3: So my husband's a farmer, which makes me a farmer

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Speaker 3: by proxy, So you know, jumping fences and climbing through

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Speaker 2: But when I turned fifty, I really noticed.

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Speaker 3: That my muscle was sort of going and I didn't

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Speaker 2: So I just got a marketplace.

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Speaker 3: A couple of months ago, and I bought a little

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Speaker 3: I love it. It just it's just a missing link.

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Speaker 3: It just puts everything together. And the thing for me,

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Speaker 3: after being an athlete for so long, when you sort

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Speaker 3: I did it really all the way through both my pregnancies.

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Speaker 3: And you know, when I was pregnant with Austin, I

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Speaker 3: That's a non negotiable. So that a little bit of weight.

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Speaker 3: So I played tennis occasionally, which is more hit and

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Speaker 3: giggle than fitness. And yeah, lots and lots of incidental exercise,

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Speaker 3: which I love.

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Speaker 1: Liz, thank you for coming on health Hitch.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. Always good to chat to you.

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Speaker 1: He can catch it Gladiators right now on ten and

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Speaker 1: ten A play for anything else, Head to Body and

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Speaker 1: and until next time you listen, stay healthy, ish