1 00:00:00,390 --> 00:00:14,530 Speaker 1: This is Brownies Podcast! Yes, welcome to Brownies Podcast. We're 2 00:00:14,770 --> 00:00:18,349 Speaker 1: all back. Brodes did an excellent job last episode. He 3 00:00:18,370 --> 00:00:21,730 Speaker 1: filled in for me. Jonathan Brown's here. Campbell Brown's here. 4 00:00:21,829 --> 00:00:23,250 Speaker 1: Bex here. Hello, Bex. You're well? 5 00:00:23,270 --> 00:00:23,610 Speaker 2: You good? 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:25,860 Speaker 3: I'm well and I haven't stopped golf. 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: Well, shit. 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,140 Speaker 1: Broads, poor Adelaide man. Since the Houston thing, you could 9 00:00:32,180 --> 00:00:33,780 Speaker 1: be cooked now. You could be cooked. 10 00:00:34,340 --> 00:00:37,500 Speaker 3: We've sewn up top two and look for us prelim 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:37,979 Speaker 3: final week. 12 00:00:38,540 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: Let's go to every single team. This round is crazy, Jonathan. 13 00:00:41,590 --> 00:00:44,379 Speaker 1: First of all, let's start with Brisbane. Where do you stand? 14 00:00:44,470 --> 00:00:46,449 Speaker 1: What needs to happen for your boys? 15 00:00:47,290 --> 00:00:48,629 Speaker 2: I'll get to them. Do you want to start with 16 00:00:48,650 --> 00:00:51,250 Speaker 2: the Friday fire-up, Dino? Because that's my team this week. 17 00:00:51,510 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got it, mate. Rip straight in. 18 00:00:53,350 --> 00:00:58,710 Speaker 2: 24. Why wait, brown dog, you say? Let's rip straight 19 00:00:58,730 --> 00:00:59,050 Speaker 2: into it. 20 00:00:59,290 --> 00:01:00,410 Speaker 4: Time waits for no one. 21 00:01:00,850 --> 00:01:03,810 Speaker 2: Well, this is the Friday fire-up, so they can't be 22 00:01:03,850 --> 00:01:07,330 Speaker 2: like Sher, singing If I Could Turn Back Time, If 23 00:01:07,420 --> 00:01:09,820 Speaker 2: I Could Find A Way. They cocked it up last 24 00:01:09,860 --> 00:01:12,940 Speaker 2: week against Collingwood. Three goals up with five minutes to 25 00:01:12,980 --> 00:01:15,980 Speaker 2: go to seal a home final and a second chance, 26 00:01:16,020 --> 00:01:19,100 Speaker 2: but they didn't. They didn't. They lost it. They coughed 27 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 2: it up. They let Collingwood back over the top of them. Well, 28 00:01:22,060 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: I tell you what now, you've got to forget about that. 29 00:01:24,060 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: You've got to turn around. You've got to focus on 30 00:01:25,750 --> 00:01:29,890 Speaker 2: this weekend because if you lose to Essendon, I think 31 00:01:29,930 --> 00:01:33,150 Speaker 2: you lose a home final. And as we know, Essendon 32 00:01:33,170 --> 00:01:36,690 Speaker 2: have been cooked since 2001, since we absolutely cooked them 33 00:01:36,709 --> 00:01:39,230 Speaker 2: in that grand final day, a memorable occasion. I know 34 00:01:39,290 --> 00:01:41,390 Speaker 2: I don't talk about it enough. And I know the 35 00:01:41,410 --> 00:01:45,550 Speaker 2: Bombers supporters get frustrated about it. But Brisbane, turn up 36 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,250 Speaker 2: and make the most of the opportunity because if you 37 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,100 Speaker 2: don't get a home final going into September, it's game 38 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,300 Speaker 2: over for 2024 and trying to get back to the 39 00:01:55,340 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: grand final and hold that Premiership Cup aloft. Boys, time 40 00:01:59,300 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: to bloody lift. I've been in your corner all year. 41 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: I've supported you all year. I've stuck fat with you 42 00:02:04,420 --> 00:02:06,500 Speaker 2: all year when there was calls for Faggs to leave 43 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,010 Speaker 2: and Chris Scott to come in. I've stuck fat with you, okay? 44 00:02:10,410 --> 00:02:14,070 Speaker 4: Now it's time to pay the big fella back, okay? 45 00:02:14,450 --> 00:02:16,750 Speaker 2: I'm a Hall of Fame legend at this footy club. 46 00:02:16,850 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: Time to return those receipts, okay? That's all I've got 47 00:02:22,380 --> 00:02:23,660 Speaker 2: to say on a Friday fire-up. 48 00:02:25,130 --> 00:02:27,929 Speaker 1: That was, mate, if they're listening, there will be a 49 00:02:27,990 --> 00:02:31,090 Speaker 1: rocket so far up them that they cannot do anything 50 00:02:31,110 --> 00:02:31,970 Speaker 1: but win, my friend. 51 00:02:32,570 --> 00:02:34,990 Speaker 3: I loved I'm a Hall of Famer in that club. 52 00:02:35,650 --> 00:02:38,870 Speaker 1: My favourite bit was time to bring the receipts. Pay 53 00:02:38,889 --> 00:02:41,660 Speaker 1: me back, you sons of bitches. Oh, my God. 54 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,459 Speaker 5: I've just Googled Sher, and I had absolutely no idea 55 00:02:44,500 --> 00:02:47,300 Speaker 5: her name was Sherilyn Sarkazian. 56 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:48,340 Speaker 4: Did you know that? 57 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:48,700 Speaker 2: Yes. 58 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: And your name was Sherilyn? 59 00:02:49,419 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 4: Yes. So short to C-H-E-R, Sher. 60 00:02:53,060 --> 00:02:53,740 Speaker 2: Sher Strong. 61 00:02:54,100 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 4: Strong in the day too, don't you worry about that. 62 00:02:56,180 --> 00:02:58,410 Speaker 2: Dog hawked. Especially when she came out on a cannon. 63 00:02:59,430 --> 00:03:02,169 Speaker 1: And then who came out on a cannon to replicate 64 00:03:02,190 --> 00:03:03,010 Speaker 1: that on the footy show? 65 00:03:03,730 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 2: Gary Lyon. A astonishing performance. Gary Lyon. He just came 66 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,900 Speaker 2: out dressed as Cher with a massive wig on, straddling 67 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: a cannon. 68 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: In fishnets. 69 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:15,340 Speaker 2: Cher did it better. 70 00:03:16,419 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: Dog, I told you, man. Hawks, this is crazy. You've 71 00:03:19,180 --> 00:03:20,660 Speaker 1: got to be excited now. You're going to be licking 72 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: your lips at the prospect of multiple cashies. 73 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,130 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, four of the last five matches, they've won 74 00:03:26,150 --> 00:03:29,709 Speaker 5: by over 10 goals. Now, no side has ever done 75 00:03:29,750 --> 00:03:31,990 Speaker 5: that and not made it to a preliminary final. So 76 00:03:32,710 --> 00:03:34,860 Speaker 5: you'd expect them to go down to Tasmania, get the 77 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 5: job done against North Melbourne. Then they secure a top 78 00:03:39,220 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 5: eight spot. Where they finish depends on a few of 79 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,030 Speaker 5: the machinations of the other games. But it looks like 80 00:03:45,100 --> 00:03:50,050 Speaker 5: more than likely going to be Western Bulldogs finish sixth 81 00:03:50,770 --> 00:03:53,370 Speaker 5: and Hawks finish seventh and they play at the MCG. 82 00:03:53,550 --> 00:03:55,380 Speaker 4: That's the most likely scenario. 83 00:03:55,460 --> 00:03:58,540 Speaker 2: Well, it's no guarantee though because GWS. True. I think 84 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,820 Speaker 2: there's a pretty good chance against the Bulldogs. But you're right, 85 00:04:00,900 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: as it currently stands. I tell you what, Hawthorne's done 86 00:04:03,060 --> 00:04:05,170 Speaker 2: a good job, Doug, to improve their percentage, haven't they? 87 00:04:05,190 --> 00:04:09,470 Speaker 2: They've just crept above Carlton now by 1%. But theirs 88 00:04:09,490 --> 00:04:11,470 Speaker 2: was in the doldrums, wasn't it? Only about six or 89 00:04:11,510 --> 00:04:13,990 Speaker 2: eight weeks ago. I think they were below 100%. 90 00:04:13,990 --> 00:04:17,969 Speaker 5: Yeah, they absolutely were. And that's why the last five 91 00:04:17,990 --> 00:04:19,630 Speaker 5: weeks have been really important for them. You know, they 92 00:04:19,710 --> 00:04:25,980 Speaker 5: smashed Adelaide by 66 points. They absolutely destroyed Carlton a 93 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 5: few weeks ago and Adelaide. and then got a bit 94 00:04:27,660 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 5: of a percentage booster on the weekend against Richmond, winning 95 00:04:30,220 --> 00:04:33,460 Speaker 5: that game by 63. So it's crept up and it's 96 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 5: secured them a top eight berth, provided they beat North 97 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,940 Speaker 5: this week. And Clarko, let's not make any mistakes. Clarko 98 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,969 Speaker 5: would love nothing more than ending Hawthorne's season by knocking 99 00:04:44,990 --> 00:04:50,770 Speaker 5: them off this week down in Hawthorne's second home state, Tasmania. 100 00:04:51,370 --> 00:04:53,450 Speaker 1: And that's a direct F you to the man in 101 00:04:53,490 --> 00:04:54,310 Speaker 1: the other coaching box. 102 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 4: And the club in general too. 103 00:04:58,580 --> 00:05:01,610 Speaker 2: John? There's a reasonable chance, dog. Look, the way it 104 00:05:01,630 --> 00:05:06,650 Speaker 2: stands with Hawthorne, even though they just didn't finish seventh, hypothetically, 105 00:05:06,670 --> 00:05:11,430 Speaker 2: they could still play three of their four finals at 106 00:05:11,470 --> 00:05:13,540 Speaker 2: their home ground, even though they're going to be the 107 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: away team. So as it stands now, if you said 108 00:05:16,940 --> 00:05:20,060 Speaker 2: Hawthorne plays the Western Bulldogs, that will be the MCG 109 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,180 Speaker 2: because there's no other Melbourne final. There always has to 110 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,219 Speaker 2: be one at the G. that round of footy. So 111 00:05:26,260 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: that's an away game for them if they won. Let's 112 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 2: say Geelong loses, then they play Geelong at the MCG, 113 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: which is Hawthorne's home ground. 114 00:05:32,910 --> 00:05:33,570 Speaker 4: Yeah. 115 00:05:33,790 --> 00:05:35,690 Speaker 2: They then have to travel. If they can win a 116 00:05:35,710 --> 00:05:37,550 Speaker 2: prelim final on the road, then they're back at their 117 00:05:37,570 --> 00:05:41,630 Speaker 2: home ground for the MCG. So it's very, very possible 118 00:05:41,670 --> 00:05:44,110 Speaker 2: if Hawthorne continue on in the same manner that they've 119 00:05:44,130 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: been playing, they're going to play three out of these 120 00:05:46,820 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: four finals at home. So it's not beyond the realms 121 00:05:49,460 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: of possibility that they can win it from outside the 122 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: top four. They're the best positioned team, I think. 123 00:05:54,270 --> 00:05:56,730 Speaker 4: They're in good shape. They obviously don't have a lot 124 00:05:56,750 --> 00:05:58,010 Speaker 4: of finals experience. 125 00:05:58,570 --> 00:06:00,950 Speaker 5: You know, there was those players that were around in 126 00:06:00,950 --> 00:06:03,229 Speaker 5: 2018 that went out in straight sets. 127 00:06:05,010 --> 00:06:06,110 Speaker 4: Guys like Hardwick. 128 00:06:06,170 --> 00:06:08,630 Speaker 5: Yeah, they've won the flags, and obviously Jack Guinevan won 129 00:06:08,650 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 5: the flag last year at Collingwood. 130 00:06:09,890 --> 00:06:11,220 Speaker 2: But not this team, though, dog. 131 00:06:11,540 --> 00:06:12,940 Speaker 4: Yeah, not this team. Who gives a shit? 132 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,900 Speaker 1: You're going to be playing at the MCG. You're winning 133 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:15,180 Speaker 1: games by team. 134 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: It's different footy, though. 135 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,110 Speaker 1: It is, but you're playing at the G. You've won by– 136 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,460 Speaker 1: you're thrashing teams. It's momentum. 137 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,810 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that, but it's more contested style. 138 00:06:24,850 --> 00:06:29,010 Speaker 5: Some of those– the space that they've been afforded to 139 00:06:29,070 --> 00:06:32,410 Speaker 5: pull the trigger on inside kicks and everything like that 140 00:06:32,750 --> 00:06:33,610 Speaker 5: isn't going to be there. 141 00:06:33,529 --> 00:06:34,330 Speaker 4: In finals footy. 142 00:06:34,750 --> 00:06:36,100 Speaker 2: And Will Day's not going to be there. 143 00:06:36,140 --> 00:06:39,500 Speaker 4: Will Day's going to probably miss with that right shoulder. So, look– 144 00:06:39,660 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: They're going well. I tend to. 145 00:06:41,779 --> 00:06:45,220 Speaker 2: Subscribe to that theory as well, Brown Dog. You very rarely, geez, 146 00:06:45,339 --> 00:06:48,050 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. We go through history. A group of 147 00:06:48,470 --> 00:06:51,289 Speaker 2: men have come up and won a grand final in 148 00:06:51,310 --> 00:06:54,429 Speaker 2: their first campaign in a final series. And you normally 149 00:06:54,490 --> 00:06:58,150 Speaker 2: have to experience finals first, that group, and then they 150 00:06:58,180 --> 00:06:59,820 Speaker 2: go on to win it the next year. Let's go 151 00:06:59,860 --> 00:07:03,830 Speaker 2: back to Hawthorne in 2017. They obviously won it in 2008, 152 00:07:03,830 --> 00:07:05,690 Speaker 2: but they did play finals, and they did win a 153 00:07:05,730 --> 00:07:07,089 Speaker 2: final in 07. 154 00:07:07,089 --> 00:07:10,890 Speaker 1: You guys are both being a real wet blanket here. Truly. 155 00:07:11,350 --> 00:07:11,870 Speaker 2: Truly. 156 00:07:11,910 --> 00:07:12,770 Speaker 1: They're playing so well. 157 00:07:12,790 --> 00:07:14,770 Speaker 2: History's there to be broken, though, isn't it, Dino? Yes, man. 158 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,180 Speaker 2: History's there to be broken, so the challenge is ahead. 159 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, they've got the right man in charge. 160 00:07:18,860 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: He knows what he's doing, Sammy Mitchell. 161 00:07:21,260 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: The Doggies need to win to make the finals. Is 162 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: that fair? 163 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:25,340 Speaker 2: Yes. 164 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,140 Speaker 1: They're playing GWS, who don't need to win, but if 165 00:07:28,190 --> 00:07:30,830 Speaker 1: they do, it still helps them. We're their possible top two. 166 00:07:30,850 --> 00:07:31,190 Speaker 2: Is that right? 167 00:07:31,210 --> 00:07:32,390 Speaker 1: There's so many moving parts. 168 00:07:32,450 --> 00:07:35,350 Speaker 3: That's a huge game in Ballarat. A massive game. That's 169 00:07:35,370 --> 00:07:36,490 Speaker 3: the biggest game Ballarat's ever had. 170 00:07:36,630 --> 00:07:37,510 Speaker 4: Oh, by a mile. 171 00:07:37,630 --> 00:07:38,330 Speaker 2: Yeah. 172 00:07:39,110 --> 00:07:40,770 Speaker 4: It's a shame it's at Ballarat, to be honest. 173 00:07:40,890 --> 00:07:44,170 Speaker 2: It would have been the Friday night, otherwise. Because it's 174 00:07:44,230 --> 00:07:46,710 Speaker 2: a shame to did rubber Melbourne Conewood Friday night to 175 00:07:46,740 --> 00:07:50,290 Speaker 2: start the round. It would have been Bulldogs-GWS, but then 176 00:07:50,310 --> 00:07:52,170 Speaker 2: they've looked at the scheduling going, oh, hang on a minute, 177 00:07:52,190 --> 00:07:54,730 Speaker 2: we can't do a Friday night at Mars Stadium. 178 00:07:55,690 --> 00:07:57,630 Speaker 4: I don't even think they have the facilities to do that. 179 00:07:58,030 --> 00:08:00,670 Speaker 2: Did we ever talk about that too, that Mars Stadium 180 00:08:00,710 --> 00:08:01,710 Speaker 2: doesn't sell Mars bars? 181 00:08:01,730 --> 00:08:02,650 Speaker 4: Is that right? 182 00:08:03,490 --> 00:08:05,310 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. That is ridiculous. 183 00:08:05,330 --> 00:08:06,750 Speaker 1: Just a little anomaly there. 184 00:08:06,770 --> 00:08:09,690 Speaker 2: Okay. They sell snags and onions on the snags like 185 00:08:09,710 --> 00:08:11,430 Speaker 2: going to Bunnings down at Mars. It's great. 186 00:08:12,030 --> 00:08:14,860 Speaker 1: I know we're all sick bastards and part of us wants– 187 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,980 Speaker 1: Carlton not to make it just because we're sick. 188 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: We're sick. 189 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: Nothing would bring me more joy. 190 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: What are the chances? Realistically, Carlton are playing St Kilda, 191 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,660 Speaker 1: which is not a given, giving Saints performance on the weekend. 192 00:08:26,700 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: That's a huge game. You're right, Dino. I'm surprised St 193 00:08:29,380 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: Kilda's not the favourite because they were fantastic last week. 194 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,579 Speaker 2: I've got St Kilda winning this one, which means that 195 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,740 Speaker 2: the Fremantle Port Adelaide is live. All the Carlton players 196 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 2: will be sitting in the rooms cheering on Port Adelaide 197 00:08:43,220 --> 00:08:45,700 Speaker 2: to beat Fremantle so that's the only way Carlton would 198 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,610 Speaker 2: make it then um so you know it's it's a 199 00:08:49,650 --> 00:08:51,589 Speaker 2: big fall from guys for Carlton obviously they've had a 200 00:08:51,610 --> 00:08:53,929 Speaker 2: shitload of injuries but they lost form as well so 201 00:08:54,570 --> 00:08:56,990 Speaker 2: it's a better final series if Carlton's in it and 202 00:08:57,050 --> 00:09:00,130 Speaker 2: I know Dino you'd be wrapped if Fremantle miss it because. 203 00:09:00,470 --> 00:09:02,809 Speaker 1: I'm a prick and the Eagles uh you know that 204 00:09:02,870 --> 00:09:05,090 Speaker 1: fluke win we had them early in the season that 205 00:09:05,130 --> 00:09:07,010 Speaker 1: would mean that that knocked them out of the finals 206 00:09:07,429 --> 00:09:10,330 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry am I am I sorry I'm going 207 00:09:10,350 --> 00:09:11,189 Speaker 1: to get some hate for that. 208 00:09:11,350 --> 00:09:14,550 Speaker 2: Dino, who's coaching West Coast? Because no one, everyone seems 209 00:09:14,570 --> 00:09:16,660 Speaker 2: to be pulling out of the race. So, Brown Dog, 210 00:09:16,700 --> 00:09:19,739 Speaker 2: does that tell you that they think someone's already got 211 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,650 Speaker 2: the job? Why would people for such, probably the most 212 00:09:22,710 --> 00:09:26,390 Speaker 2: sought after job in football. Hmm. Why would people be 213 00:09:26,429 --> 00:09:26,850 Speaker 2: pulling that? 214 00:09:26,870 --> 00:09:27,980 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an interesting one, isn't it? 215 00:09:27,990 --> 00:09:31,179 Speaker 5: Because no assisting coach wants to apply for a job 216 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,780 Speaker 5: that you think is going to be a boat race. 217 00:09:32,980 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 5: You're just there for the numbers because the result, the 218 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,859 Speaker 5: decision has already been made. There's been a few boat 219 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,349 Speaker 5: races over the journey. Fade's job in Brisbane was a 220 00:09:41,350 --> 00:09:41,530 Speaker 5: boat race. 221 00:09:41,650 --> 00:09:46,689 Speaker 2: That was unbelievable. Johnny Barker did his interview via Zoom 222 00:09:46,710 --> 00:09:50,100 Speaker 2: out the front of Disneyland, I think, wasn't he? I remember. 223 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:51,780 Speaker 2: In LA on a family holiday. 224 00:09:51,860 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 4: And he rang me and said, mate, I'm going to 225 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,300 Speaker 4: apply for the Brisbane job. I said, don't bother. Chris 226 00:09:55,350 --> 00:09:57,650 Speaker 4: Fagan's already got it. He goes, no, I've been assured 227 00:09:57,670 --> 00:09:58,089 Speaker 4: that he hasn't. 228 00:09:58,130 --> 00:09:58,810 Speaker 1: I'm a chance. 229 00:09:59,290 --> 00:09:59,690 Speaker 2: I said, mate. 230 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 4: Mate, I said, you heard of a boat race? This 231 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 4: is you just making him tick the box. But I 232 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:07,540 Speaker 4: still think. 233 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 5: There's a small element of me that refuses to concede 234 00:10:10,780 --> 00:10:12,340 Speaker 5: that Dean Cox isn't still in the mix. 235 00:10:12,580 --> 00:10:14,210 Speaker 1: Yes, thank you. I want to hear that. 236 00:10:14,260 --> 00:10:14,689 Speaker 4: That's all. 237 00:10:14,790 --> 00:10:17,370 Speaker 2: No, he's got a Hungry Jacks in Sydney. He has 238 00:10:17,390 --> 00:10:20,410 Speaker 2: to stay in the state just to keep an eye on. 239 00:10:20,450 --> 00:10:24,189 Speaker 2: Equality control, dog. You can't just– it's not a passive investment. 240 00:10:24,270 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: If you own a Hungry Jacks, you've got to be 241 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,380 Speaker 2: on to the factory floor. 242 00:10:28,700 --> 00:10:31,820 Speaker 1: John, you have to respect the oath, the commitment you 243 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,660 Speaker 1: took to the Whopper with cheese has to be respected. 244 00:10:34,980 --> 00:10:37,140 Speaker 5: It was only like five weeks ago that people were 245 00:10:37,179 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 5: saying that Ken Hinckley was going to get sacked from 246 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,300 Speaker 5: Port and he was going to take the West Coast job. 247 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,939 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Now they're about to finish second. 248 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,380 Speaker 2: Maybe Kenny's already done a deal. Maybe Kenny's done a 249 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:48,590 Speaker 2: secret deal with West Coast. 250 00:10:48,870 --> 00:10:50,850 Speaker 5: Nah, he wouldn't leave Port on the back of the 251 00:10:50,890 --> 00:10:52,350 Speaker 5: success he's had in the back half of this year. 252 00:10:52,370 --> 00:10:54,450 Speaker 2: Might have been done already, Doc. Might have been already 253 00:10:54,470 --> 00:10:55,229 Speaker 2: done and agreed upon. 254 00:10:55,650 --> 00:10:58,490 Speaker 1: Every time Dean Cox says no to that job, he 255 00:10:58,530 --> 00:11:01,550 Speaker 1: slaps another $ 100, 000 on his contract. Just tell me it's 256 00:11:01,590 --> 00:11:03,170 Speaker 1: not over, dog. 257 00:11:03,210 --> 00:11:03,870 Speaker 2: Hungry Jacks. 258 00:11:03,910 --> 00:11:07,050 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's all about leverage in AFL football. 259 00:11:07,090 --> 00:11:09,410 Speaker 5: As we found out in the last couple of weeks 260 00:11:09,470 --> 00:11:13,699 Speaker 5: when Jack Viney, he was renegotiating his contract. 261 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,940 Speaker 4: And, you know, at 30 years of age. 262 00:11:17,340 --> 00:11:21,340 Speaker 5: Going into another preseason, unless he had a suitor that 263 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,930 Speaker 5: was genuinely interested to him, there's no leverage there. So 264 00:11:24,970 --> 00:11:27,589 Speaker 5: guess who came to the party and was absolutely desperate 265 00:11:27,610 --> 00:11:29,730 Speaker 5: to have him and made it public that they were 266 00:11:29,770 --> 00:11:30,450 Speaker 5: desperate to have him? 267 00:11:30,910 --> 00:11:32,350 Speaker 4: North Melbourne, right? 268 00:11:32,770 --> 00:11:35,610 Speaker 5: Now guess who the list manager is for North Melbourne? 269 00:11:36,110 --> 00:11:41,330 Speaker 5: A guy called Todd Viney, his father. They created the leverage, right? 270 00:11:41,410 --> 00:11:43,790 Speaker 4: Stop it. And I was desperate to have him. And 271 00:11:43,809 --> 00:11:47,220 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, Jack signs a new extended two-year 272 00:11:47,270 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 4: deal on much more than he ever would before. 273 00:11:49,980 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: Jack's a heart and soul player at the Melbourne Football Club. 274 00:11:52,500 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: He was best on ground on the weekend. 275 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:54,599 Speaker 4: No doubt. 276 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 5: And he's one of my favourite players in the competition. 277 00:11:57,940 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is they pulled a few levers 278 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 5: that they're allowed to do. They used the media to 279 00:12:03,100 --> 00:12:04,340 Speaker 5: sort of do it as well. 280 00:12:04,380 --> 00:12:07,140 Speaker 4: And all of a sudden, bang! He's much better off 281 00:12:07,179 --> 00:12:08,870 Speaker 4: than he was six weeks ago. 282 00:12:08,890 --> 00:12:11,290 Speaker 2: Are you saying there's been a bit of collusion here, 283 00:12:11,670 --> 00:12:13,670 Speaker 2: Brown Dog? Collusion? You're being a little bit mischievous with 284 00:12:13,700 --> 00:12:14,300 Speaker 2: those comments. 285 00:12:15,860 --> 00:12:16,980 Speaker 1: Is there any way? 286 00:12:17,179 --> 00:12:21,230 Speaker 5: There's about as much collusion going on there as another family, 287 00:12:21,690 --> 00:12:24,229 Speaker 5: first family of racing. You've got a guy called Rob 288 00:12:24,250 --> 00:12:27,010 Speaker 5: Waterhouse who's a bookie, and you've got a trainer called 289 00:12:27,030 --> 00:12:27,809 Speaker 5: Gay Waterhouse. 290 00:12:28,290 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 4: And she's a trainer of some of the horses. 291 00:12:30,980 --> 00:12:32,459 Speaker 5: You don't reckon they have a little chat over the 292 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,340 Speaker 5: dinner table and maybe get their little son. 293 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 4: Tom Waterhouse involved? 294 00:12:36,740 --> 00:12:37,370 Speaker 1: Hey, by the way. 295 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,350 Speaker 4: To orchestrate a market. 296 00:12:40,070 --> 00:12:42,650 Speaker 1: Dog, I haven't seen you since Black Caviar died. Did 297 00:12:42,670 --> 00:12:44,870 Speaker 1: you just go on a drinking bender and just. 298 00:12:45,030 --> 00:12:47,189 Speaker 4: I was very sad. I was very, very sad. 299 00:12:48,150 --> 00:12:50,990 Speaker 5: I do think the criticism to the owners that all 300 00:12:51,010 --> 00:12:52,580 Speaker 5: of a sudden all these people that have nothing to 301 00:12:52,630 --> 00:12:55,140 Speaker 5: do with racing and don't understand how it works are 302 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,699 Speaker 5: all of a sudden very critical of the breeding industry 303 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 5: in this country. It's just ridiculous. But sad that we 304 00:13:02,300 --> 00:13:04,740 Speaker 5: lost her and then we also lost... the fold as well, 305 00:13:04,780 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 5: but these things do happen in life. 306 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,970 Speaker 3: Haven't the offspring been a bit useless, actually, of black caviar? 307 00:13:10,990 --> 00:13:11,689 Speaker 4: Haven't been great. 308 00:13:11,710 --> 00:13:14,530 Speaker 5: That's often the case. There's no guarantee that Winx, the 309 00:13:14,590 --> 00:13:18,570 Speaker 5: black caviars, just because they were champions. I mean, you know, 310 00:13:18,650 --> 00:13:21,610 Speaker 5: it's not often that your offspring goes on to better 311 00:13:21,910 --> 00:13:24,350 Speaker 5: the performance of the parents, like I did to Mel. 312 00:13:27,220 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 4: Like JB did to his old man, you know. It's 313 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 4: usually the other way around. 314 00:13:32,100 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: Normally it jumps a generation too, so that's what they're 315 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:39,030 Speaker 2: hoping because some of her progeny, some of the males, stallions, 316 00:13:39,050 --> 00:13:40,489 Speaker 2: haven't done a hell of a lot, but they've gone 317 00:13:40,510 --> 00:13:43,790 Speaker 2: to start because they're thinking hopefully it jumps a generation, 318 00:13:44,390 --> 00:13:48,090 Speaker 2: the talent. Yeah. So they'll still, you know, that's why 319 00:13:48,110 --> 00:13:49,850 Speaker 2: they're still valuable even though they didn't do a lot 320 00:13:49,870 --> 00:13:50,229 Speaker 2: on the track. 321 00:13:50,910 --> 00:13:55,010 Speaker 1: Hey, because of Collingwood's dog shit percentage, the line's drawn 322 00:13:55,030 --> 00:13:55,770 Speaker 1: through them. Is that right? 323 00:13:55,790 --> 00:13:57,210 Speaker 4: Yes, they can't make the finals. 324 00:13:57,230 --> 00:14:01,130 Speaker 2: I think they've got to win or the opposition's got 325 00:14:01,150 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 2: to lose by... 190. 326 00:14:01,820 --> 00:14:05,130 Speaker 3: 190 points for Jane Abner. 327 00:14:05,530 --> 00:14:07,510 Speaker 1: All right, because of that, I want Carlton to say 328 00:14:07,550 --> 00:14:10,219 Speaker 1: in it, just so Melbourne goes nuts in September, because 329 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,900 Speaker 1: without one of them, the bit of the vibe's gone, John. 330 00:14:13,929 --> 00:14:17,550 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. Yeah, well, they've done a fantastic job. 331 00:14:17,570 --> 00:14:20,150 Speaker 2: But yeah, I've got the dogs in Hawthorne, but you 332 00:14:20,170 --> 00:14:22,500 Speaker 2: want a big club. So Carlton's going to be, they're 333 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: going to have to carry the can. Geelong's got a 334 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: bit of a supporter base, but you're right. Carlton's got 335 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: a fair bit more supporters than the doggies in Hawthorne. 336 00:14:30,260 --> 00:14:32,780 Speaker 2: What do you think about Christian Petrarca? I know Wild 337 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: Brown Dog's in the mood to talk about Melbourne players 338 00:14:35,830 --> 00:14:39,830 Speaker 2: and contracts and all these machinations. Have we got any information? 339 00:14:39,850 --> 00:14:41,790 Speaker 2: Because I've sort of been out of it for the 340 00:14:41,850 --> 00:14:44,860 Speaker 2: last few days and Our man, Brady Pomeroy, he's a 341 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: big trade radio operator. 342 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:48,180 Speaker 4: And reads big footy. 343 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,180 Speaker 2: He's usually got his finger on the pulse, Brown Dog. 344 00:14:50,220 --> 00:14:52,570 Speaker 2: Not only you, but what's going on there at Melbourne 345 00:14:52,590 --> 00:14:54,610 Speaker 2: with the Christian Petrarca situation, Brad? 346 00:14:54,750 --> 00:14:56,450 Speaker 3: Well, it sounds like a lot of it that just 347 00:14:56,510 --> 00:14:58,490 Speaker 3: Christian wants change at the club. He wants to get 348 00:14:58,530 --> 00:14:59,950 Speaker 3: rid of some of the bad eggs and he just 349 00:14:59,970 --> 00:15:01,950 Speaker 3: wants to change the culture to more of a winning, 350 00:15:02,250 --> 00:15:04,170 Speaker 3: you know, return back to their prime and when they 351 00:15:04,190 --> 00:15:06,410 Speaker 3: were winning flags and take the culture back to where 352 00:15:06,450 --> 00:15:08,550 Speaker 3: it was before. And there's a few big figures at 353 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,300 Speaker 3: the club. It sounds like that he wants to move 354 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,700 Speaker 3: out and, you know, start a new regime. 355 00:15:14,140 --> 00:15:15,860 Speaker 1: Bro, do you say this with such confidence? 356 00:15:15,900 --> 00:15:17,060 Speaker 4: I know, he's got it off Bigfooty. 357 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: Come on, mate. He's got it off Bigfooty. 358 00:15:20,580 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: What is. 359 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: Give us some tangible meat. 360 00:15:24,180 --> 00:15:26,580 Speaker 2: Bro, you don't do your research off Bigfooty, do you? 361 00:15:26,860 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 3: The anonymous tips on Bigfooty are never wrong. So that's 362 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 3: why you've just got to follow it. 363 00:15:31,020 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: Stop it. Mate, this is a credible podcast. It can't 364 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,460 Speaker 2: be rolling out our whispers and information from Bigfooty. 365 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 4: And have you noticed that our. 366 00:15:40,900 --> 00:15:45,450 Speaker 5: Subscriptions and listenerships have skyrocketed since we turned off Brodie's 367 00:15:45,710 --> 00:15:46,770 Speaker 5: mic earlier in the year. 368 00:15:47,150 --> 00:15:47,690 Speaker 2: Yeah. 369 00:15:47,730 --> 00:15:50,290 Speaker 4: He's just crept his way back into the mic since 370 00:15:50,310 --> 00:15:51,790 Speaker 4: you've left the studio, Dino. 371 00:15:52,250 --> 00:15:54,790 Speaker 1: How did Brodes go when I wasn't there? What happened? 372 00:15:55,150 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: Tell me. 373 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it was okay. It just sounded different. You know, 374 00:15:58,420 --> 00:16:00,740 Speaker 4: it's like when you're having sex with your partner, right? 375 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,450 Speaker 4: And it's just different. You're so used to, you know, 376 00:16:03,470 --> 00:16:05,150 Speaker 4: your voice saying, you know. 377 00:16:05,190 --> 00:16:07,270 Speaker 3: I'm just not very good at the welcome to Brownies 378 00:16:07,310 --> 00:16:09,290 Speaker 3: podcast bit. All the rest is fine, but it's just 379 00:16:09,310 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 3: that initial welcome, Dean. You know, when you really carry it, 380 00:16:12,170 --> 00:16:14,690 Speaker 3: you know, it sets the mood. I'm just, I'm not. 381 00:16:14,610 --> 00:16:14,870 Speaker 1: Good at that. 382 00:16:14,890 --> 00:16:15,790 Speaker 2: Give me one. Give me one. 383 00:16:15,830 --> 00:16:16,420 Speaker 1: Just give me one now. 384 00:16:16,590 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: Welcome to Brownies podcast. You've got the three-time, the Coleman medalist, 385 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: Jonathan Brown, the three-time premiership player. And Campbell. 386 00:16:25,300 --> 00:16:28,970 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a weird one because it just feels unfamiliar. 387 00:16:30,590 --> 00:16:32,470 Speaker 2: It's like trying to kiss a girl when you've just 388 00:16:32,490 --> 00:16:36,650 Speaker 2: got braces. So that's how sort of awkward it was. 389 00:16:36,790 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: Or kissing a girl with a mustache. 390 00:16:39,580 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: That was never good. 391 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:41,700 Speaker 4: It didn't quite fit. 392 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 5: All of a sudden you go and you start the 393 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 5: choking maneuver in bed and then they're not into that because. 394 00:16:47,780 --> 00:16:51,660 Speaker 1: Okay, we're coming up after the ads. Bro, you'll decide 395 00:16:51,700 --> 00:16:54,900 Speaker 1: whether what Campbell just said will stay in the podcast 396 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: and plenty, plenty more. We'll be right back. Welcome back 397 00:16:58,780 --> 00:17:02,150 Speaker 1: to Brownies Podcast. Just something so incredibly sad that you 398 00:17:02,170 --> 00:17:06,649 Speaker 1: can't even fathom with Sam Landsberger. Doug, you knew Sam? 399 00:17:07,390 --> 00:17:09,469 Speaker 4: I did, and he was a great journalist. I knew 400 00:17:09,510 --> 00:17:11,970 Speaker 4: his father, Jake Landsberger, really, really well. 401 00:17:12,010 --> 00:17:15,689 Speaker 5: He was the doctor on the International Rules trips we 402 00:17:15,730 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 5: used to go on. Just a beautiful family, great, great people. 403 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,780 Speaker 5: And Sammy was doing magnificent things as a journo, wasn't he? 404 00:17:23,780 --> 00:17:25,940 Speaker 5: He was working with you at Fox Footy and working 405 00:17:25,980 --> 00:17:28,580 Speaker 5: for News Corp and the Herald Sun. and you would 406 00:17:28,619 --> 00:17:29,380 Speaker 5: have seen him regularly. 407 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,820 Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic fella, Sammy. You're right, Jake's an absolute beauty 408 00:17:33,859 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 2: as well. Bulldog's doctor for a long time, the state 409 00:17:36,900 --> 00:17:38,909 Speaker 2: of origin doctor. He went away on a few of 410 00:17:38,930 --> 00:17:41,470 Speaker 2: the Irish trips with the Australian team as well, so 411 00:17:42,130 --> 00:17:45,530 Speaker 2: unbelievably respected in the AFL community, as was Sam as 412 00:17:45,609 --> 00:17:51,620 Speaker 2: a journalist. So, yeah, Sammy actually ghost wrote a couple 413 00:17:51,630 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: of my articles when I was back doing them in 414 00:17:54,020 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: the day at the Herald Sun, and And also, we 415 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 2: had a bit of fun with him last year, but 416 00:17:58,380 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: he took it in his stride when, I think it 417 00:18:01,859 --> 00:18:04,460 Speaker 2: was last year, I said in a commentary, Gary said 418 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: to me, Gary Lyon said to me, what would you 419 00:18:05,859 --> 00:18:07,540 Speaker 2: do with Tom Lynch who couldn't get into the game? 420 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,550 Speaker 2: I said, geez, you'd throw him in the ruck, I reckon, Gaz, 421 00:18:10,570 --> 00:18:14,590 Speaker 2: but I'd never do that to Tom Lynch. But Sammy 422 00:18:14,609 --> 00:18:16,710 Speaker 2: just went to the press conference and omitted the last 423 00:18:16,790 --> 00:18:19,169 Speaker 2: bit of those comments and said to Damien Hardwick, well, 424 00:18:19,650 --> 00:18:23,990 Speaker 2: Jonathan Brown said Tom Lynch should be playing in the Ruck. Well, 425 00:18:24,030 --> 00:18:25,889 Speaker 2: dimmers give me bark barrels. So why don't you get 426 00:18:25,930 --> 00:18:27,990 Speaker 2: Jonathan Brown to coach? He can coach if he wants. 427 00:18:28,609 --> 00:18:31,389 Speaker 2: And obviously that blew up a little bit. So I 428 00:18:31,410 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: had to give Sammy a bit of a phone call. 429 00:18:34,300 --> 00:18:38,340 Speaker 2: We had a very strong conversation, but it was all 430 00:18:38,380 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: in fun. We had a bit of a laugh, didn't we? 431 00:18:39,980 --> 00:18:42,659 Speaker 2: We'll call him Nerd Burger Dino. But he took it 432 00:18:42,700 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: in stride and he's an absolute ripping journalist. 433 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,860 Speaker 1: Valet, just so, so sad. 434 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,780 Speaker 2: Yeah, these sort of things, it just shows how short, sorry, 435 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 2: our precious life is and how quickly things can happen. 436 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: It's shocking just how it all happened. 437 00:18:58,260 --> 00:18:58,460 Speaker 4: Isn't it? 438 00:18:58,460 --> 00:19:00,790 Speaker 5: You've just got to enjoy your life and do the 439 00:19:00,810 --> 00:19:03,570 Speaker 5: things that you're putting on hold and say the things 440 00:19:03,590 --> 00:19:05,390 Speaker 5: that you want to say to the people that you 441 00:19:05,410 --> 00:19:07,790 Speaker 5: love and all those sorts of things because it can 442 00:19:07,810 --> 00:19:09,010 Speaker 5: literally be over in a second. 443 00:19:09,450 --> 00:19:11,830 Speaker 1: It's frustrating because we learn that lesson when this happens, 444 00:19:11,869 --> 00:19:14,449 Speaker 1: but then we sort of drift back. You know what 445 00:19:14,609 --> 00:19:14,770 Speaker 1: I mean? 446 00:19:14,830 --> 00:19:17,030 Speaker 2: You're right, Dino. Spot on. We all spoke about that 447 00:19:17,050 --> 00:19:20,270 Speaker 2: in COVID. how connected we're going to become and appreciate life. 448 00:19:20,310 --> 00:19:22,990 Speaker 2: But you're right. Everyone falls back into the same habits again. 449 00:19:23,050 --> 00:19:26,250 Speaker 2: And there was reports that he was on the phone 450 00:19:26,270 --> 00:19:32,870 Speaker 2: to his dear mum, which probably provides– that's a tough one. 451 00:19:32,890 --> 00:19:35,109 Speaker 2: It provides the family some level of comfort that he's 452 00:19:35,130 --> 00:19:38,590 Speaker 2: talking to his most cherished and loved at the time 453 00:19:38,609 --> 00:19:43,490 Speaker 2: of his passing. I often look back when mum passed away, 454 00:19:43,869 --> 00:19:48,649 Speaker 2: and she was sudden as well– The thing that a 455 00:19:48,670 --> 00:19:51,850 Speaker 2: big part of keeps me not going, but a special 456 00:19:51,890 --> 00:19:54,010 Speaker 2: memory for me is I actually spoke to mum about 457 00:19:54,410 --> 00:19:56,710 Speaker 2: an hour before she passed and we had a laugh 458 00:19:56,770 --> 00:19:59,629 Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff. So you do take 459 00:19:59,810 --> 00:20:05,570 Speaker 2: solace in that, in absolute horrible tragedy. So, yeah, I'm 460 00:20:05,590 --> 00:20:07,490 Speaker 2: not saying it's a silver lining, Dino, but it was 461 00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 2: just an observation. 462 00:20:08,869 --> 00:20:09,290 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 463 00:20:09,609 --> 00:20:09,869 Speaker 2: All right. 464 00:20:10,130 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: A bit of a change of pace. I want to, 465 00:20:13,180 --> 00:20:16,690 Speaker 1: have we been on air since Dan Houston got his, his. 466 00:20:17,350 --> 00:20:17,889 Speaker 1: His punishment. 467 00:20:17,910 --> 00:20:20,990 Speaker 5: We were discussing on Monday how many weeks he would receive. 468 00:20:21,070 --> 00:20:23,970 Speaker 5: I was around the four to five mark. I thought 469 00:20:24,470 --> 00:20:26,350 Speaker 5: if they gave him four, it left a little bit 470 00:20:26,390 --> 00:20:28,070 Speaker 5: of the door ajar for him to play in the 471 00:20:28,109 --> 00:20:28,750 Speaker 5: grand final. 472 00:20:28,910 --> 00:20:31,649 Speaker 2: Yeah, they lost the final and went the back door. Yeah, 473 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:32,710 Speaker 2: won the other weeks. 474 00:20:32,780 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 5: Clearly AFL just looked at the act and went, nah, 475 00:20:35,740 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 5: he's not playing again this year. Five is about spot on. 476 00:20:39,340 --> 00:20:43,419 Speaker 5: They're going to appeal because he's one of their better players. 477 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,179 Speaker 4: I don't think they will win that appeal. And I 478 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 4: think his season and career at Port Adelaide will more 479 00:20:49,460 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 4: than likely be over. 480 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,070 Speaker 5: And I don't think anyone in the footy world thought 481 00:20:55,970 --> 00:20:58,149 Speaker 5: that five weeks is excessive. 482 00:20:58,270 --> 00:20:59,169 Speaker 4: It's about right. 483 00:20:59,790 --> 00:21:01,889 Speaker 5: It always hurts when a player is going to potentially 484 00:21:01,930 --> 00:21:04,010 Speaker 5: miss a final series who's been such a great servant 485 00:21:04,030 --> 00:21:04,730 Speaker 5: for that footy club. 486 00:21:04,770 --> 00:21:04,869 Speaker 2: But. 487 00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:06,990 Speaker 4: That's them, the brakes. 488 00:21:07,210 --> 00:21:10,300 Speaker 3: I saw an expert on Bigfooty saying that you should 489 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 3: be able to defer your suspensions and you should be 490 00:21:12,500 --> 00:21:13,740 Speaker 3: able to take them wherever you choose. 491 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:14,530 Speaker 2: Oh, please. 492 00:21:15,450 --> 00:21:18,010 Speaker 4: What's it taking me? Round one and round five and 493 00:21:18,070 --> 00:21:19,350 Speaker 4: round seven the next year. 494 00:21:19,650 --> 00:21:23,500 Speaker 1: Bigfooty is just... A forum of people that smoke meth. 495 00:21:23,540 --> 00:21:25,220 Speaker 1: That's all that forum. 496 00:21:26,660 --> 00:21:26,740 Speaker 2: Is. 497 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,379 Speaker 1: Is it possible an appeal gets knocked down to four, 498 00:21:31,740 --> 00:21:34,540 Speaker 1: including the last round, the fairytale, he plays a grand final? 499 00:21:34,660 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 3: Yes, that is. 500 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,250 Speaker 4: Yeah, but on the basis of what? 501 00:21:38,270 --> 00:21:41,770 Speaker 5: It's not excessive. You can't really deem that the contact 502 00:21:41,810 --> 00:21:45,409 Speaker 5: wasn't high. It wasn't reckless or intentional. 503 00:21:45,450 --> 00:21:46,650 Speaker 4: What are they arguing? 504 00:21:46,670 --> 00:21:49,210 Speaker 2: Season two, Brown Dog, didn't he? I think they... worked 505 00:21:49,250 --> 00:21:50,929 Speaker 2: it out in the tribunal, he made the decision from 506 00:21:51,020 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 2: eight metres away. Yeah. And eight metres, the players, yeah, 507 00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: they're so good now, they can make those decisions in 508 00:21:56,260 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 2: a short space of time, that eight metres is definitely 509 00:21:58,940 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: deemed way too far for it to be an accident. 510 00:22:03,180 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 2: And look, at the end of the day, it is, 511 00:22:05,210 --> 00:22:07,290 Speaker 2: I'm not going to call it an accident, but it's 512 00:22:07,310 --> 00:22:09,550 Speaker 2: just a mistake. It's a mistake the players are in 513 00:22:09,570 --> 00:22:11,530 Speaker 2: the heat of the moment. He's not a dirty player, 514 00:22:11,550 --> 00:22:15,470 Speaker 2: but unfortunately, you do make mistakes, don't you? And Dan 515 00:22:15,490 --> 00:22:17,450 Speaker 2: Houston's got to pay for that. I think you're right, like, 516 00:22:17,970 --> 00:22:20,130 Speaker 2: I think the AFL has clearly said, right, let's make 517 00:22:20,170 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 2: sure he definitely can't play this year for his team. 518 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 2: And because it was four weeks, potentially he could still 519 00:22:27,150 --> 00:22:30,790 Speaker 2: make a grand final if Port Adelaide lost their first final. 520 00:22:31,380 --> 00:22:33,139 Speaker 2: and won their way through in the second chance. 521 00:22:33,340 --> 00:22:35,700 Speaker 5: He just needed to go about half a metre lower 522 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,540 Speaker 5: because Rankin was. 523 00:22:37,460 --> 00:22:38,940 Speaker 4: In that vulnerable position. 524 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:39,310 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. 525 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 5: And if he'd hit him with his shoulder in his sternum, 526 00:22:42,260 --> 00:22:44,500 Speaker 5: like he would have broken his ribs and ended his 527 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:45,939 Speaker 5: night and all that anyway. 528 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 529 00:22:46,510 --> 00:22:48,750 Speaker 5: Not that, you know, not that you'd want to do 530 00:22:48,770 --> 00:22:50,090 Speaker 5: that to a player, but at least it would have 531 00:22:50,109 --> 00:22:51,510 Speaker 5: been legal. Yeah. 532 00:22:52,109 --> 00:22:53,590 Speaker 4: Or obviously the next thing is. 533 00:22:53,750 --> 00:22:56,450 Speaker 5: Just choose to tackle, you know, and just wait until 534 00:22:56,470 --> 00:22:58,330 Speaker 5: he gets the ball tackle and bring him to ground. 535 00:22:58,369 --> 00:23:00,619 Speaker 5: Not dump him, but just bring him to ground appropriately. 536 00:23:00,650 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 5: And he's playing the next week. But it set the fuse, JB, 537 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 5: for some words between Kenny Hinkley and Matty Nix. They 538 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,630 Speaker 5: were sort of discussing things post-game. And a very unusual– 539 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,570 Speaker 5: I woke up this morning to– reports that Matty Crouch 540 00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:20,050 Speaker 5: had been charged with assault. 541 00:23:20,410 --> 00:23:21,649 Speaker 4: And I went, oh, you know, they went out and 542 00:23:21,670 --> 00:23:23,510 Speaker 4: got on the piss like the Ramsgate. 543 00:23:23,850 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: The Ramsgate back in the day, yeah, when Roo got 544 00:23:26,820 --> 00:23:27,500 Speaker 2: a hold of Josh Carr. 545 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,900 Speaker 4: That's right. And they got involved in an incident. 546 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 5: I was very, very surprised to read that as he 547 00:23:33,500 --> 00:23:37,990 Speaker 5: was walking off the ground, a supporter was hanging over 548 00:23:38,010 --> 00:23:40,950 Speaker 5: the fence, abusing the hell out of him. And guess 549 00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:44,570 Speaker 5: the vicious assault that Matty Crouch did onto this patron 550 00:23:45,310 --> 00:23:46,130 Speaker 5: at Adelaide Oval. 551 00:23:46,350 --> 00:23:47,230 Speaker 4: He flicked his hat off. 552 00:23:47,609 --> 00:23:50,510 Speaker 5: Just a tiny little tap and the hat fell backwards. 553 00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:53,770 Speaker 4: Could you imagine being a grown man? 554 00:23:53,790 --> 00:23:56,340 Speaker 2: I like the hat flick. I think it's just a 555 00:23:56,340 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: subtle move. 556 00:23:57,020 --> 00:24:00,350 Speaker 5: Imagine being a grown-ass man, right, in your late 30s, 557 00:24:00,380 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 5: early 40s, and being so taken aback by your hat 558 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,540 Speaker 5: getting flicked off your head, right, which was absolutely warranted, 559 00:24:08,980 --> 00:24:10,830 Speaker 5: that you go down to the police station and you 560 00:24:10,850 --> 00:24:12,670 Speaker 5: press charges for assault. 561 00:24:13,050 --> 00:24:14,670 Speaker 1: Wait, did he? Did he? 562 00:24:14,690 --> 00:24:14,990 Speaker 2: Yes. 563 00:24:15,470 --> 00:24:15,889 Speaker 1: Did he? 564 00:24:15,950 --> 00:24:16,310 Speaker 2: Yes. 565 00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:19,070 Speaker 5: And the fact that the police have even followed it up, right, 566 00:24:20,410 --> 00:24:22,330 Speaker 5: that they can say, oh, we have to, we have 567 00:24:22,490 --> 00:24:23,390 Speaker 5: to do that. 568 00:24:23,490 --> 00:24:24,209 Speaker 4: Yeah, they must be. 569 00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:26,850 Speaker 5: But seriously, what a waste of everyone's time. 570 00:24:27,330 --> 00:24:29,490 Speaker 2: Which police station do you think you'd be going down to? 571 00:24:29,570 --> 00:24:30,990 Speaker 2: I don't think you'd be going into the heart of 572 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,580 Speaker 2: Adelaide for that. I think you'd be going to the 573 00:24:32,619 --> 00:24:34,980 Speaker 2: Port Adelaide Police Station and that'd be about the only 574 00:24:35,060 --> 00:24:37,340 Speaker 2: one that may have a sympathetic ear. But that is 575 00:24:37,420 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 2: absolutely ridiculous. I'll tell you what, what I would love 576 00:24:40,660 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: to see is I'd love to see that bloke play footy. 577 00:24:44,550 --> 00:24:46,710 Speaker 2: Because I'm tipping he might have been an outside operator, 578 00:24:46,930 --> 00:24:49,149 Speaker 2: Brown Dog. They may have built fences to keep a 579 00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:50,830 Speaker 2: character like that inside the footy ground. 580 00:24:50,869 --> 00:24:53,609 Speaker 5: And that's the problem with these people today, right? It's 581 00:24:53,670 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 5: like you can lean over the fence and hurl whatever 582 00:24:56,410 --> 00:24:59,699 Speaker 5: abuse you want to anyone, yet you don't want to 583 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,740 Speaker 5: acknowledge or deal with the consequences. It's like these protesters, Dino. 584 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,379 Speaker 5: They think they can just glue themselves to roads or 585 00:25:07,980 --> 00:25:10,580 Speaker 5: prevent people getting where they want to go and they 586 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 5: just get away with immunity. 587 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,740 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Sky News. 588 00:25:14,900 --> 00:25:16,609 Speaker 4: There are consequences for your actions. 589 00:25:17,010 --> 00:25:19,070 Speaker 1: I wanted to speak to Brodie because he's a normal 590 00:25:19,109 --> 00:25:21,170 Speaker 1: person like me. He's not an X40 player like you. 591 00:25:21,270 --> 00:25:23,470 Speaker 1: Imagine if you're that guy who got his hat flicked 592 00:25:23,550 --> 00:25:26,149 Speaker 1: off and then you've heard Jonathan Brown just call you 593 00:25:26,190 --> 00:25:28,409 Speaker 1: an outside operator as a player. 594 00:25:28,490 --> 00:25:28,730 Speaker 2: Yeah. 595 00:25:29,619 --> 00:25:33,859 Speaker 1: Wait, your mates would be hanging shit on you until 596 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: he dies. I hope he hears it. 597 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 3: You'd be called outside for the remainder of time. They'd 598 00:25:38,900 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 3: just call you outside. Like, hey, outside, where are we going? 599 00:25:41,660 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 3: That'd be it. 600 00:25:42,780 --> 00:25:45,139 Speaker 2: Someone that's been accused of being an outside operator too 601 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: is Josh Rochelle, boys, for Adelaide. Now, that was another 602 00:25:48,290 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 2: big thing that came out of that game, wasn't it? 603 00:25:51,210 --> 00:25:54,609 Speaker 2: Josh Rochelle, he kicked the goal and made the signal 604 00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:56,330 Speaker 2: to the crowd that the Port Adelaide supporters have got 605 00:25:56,369 --> 00:25:59,460 Speaker 2: no teeth. Obviously, that's blown up. during the week because 606 00:25:59,580 --> 00:26:02,939 Speaker 2: one of his contests, he didn't straight line the ball, 607 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,010 Speaker 2: which he's done a few times this year, a bit 608 00:26:06,050 --> 00:26:08,770 Speaker 2: of criticism. But look, at the end of the day, 609 00:26:08,790 --> 00:26:11,570 Speaker 2: I think Josh, I'm going to make the observation on 610 00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: Josh Rochelle. He's clearly a talented player. He's got a 611 00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:19,460 Speaker 2: bit of charisma about him. People may not necessarily like 612 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: the way he goes about things, but sometimes these guys, 613 00:26:22,820 --> 00:26:25,859 Speaker 2: these prodigious talents, just take a few years to just 614 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,629 Speaker 2: be able to massage into the right mold so they 615 00:26:29,650 --> 00:26:34,169 Speaker 2: become good, consistent AFL players. And I liken the situation 616 00:26:34,210 --> 00:26:37,429 Speaker 2: potentially to a young Jason Akermanis. So if you look 617 00:26:37,470 --> 00:26:40,419 Speaker 2: at Jason Akermanis, He was like this for about the 618 00:26:40,460 --> 00:26:43,189 Speaker 2: first four years. And people are saying now that, oh, 619 00:26:43,230 --> 00:26:44,790 Speaker 2: you don't want to be an individual. You've got to 620 00:26:44,830 --> 00:26:47,379 Speaker 2: celebrate with your teammates. Well, Aki used to do handstands. 621 00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:51,010 Speaker 2: post-game with the crowd when celebrating. He would do all 622 00:26:51,050 --> 00:26:51,989 Speaker 2: sorts of stuff for the crowd. 623 00:26:52,010 --> 00:26:53,070 Speaker 1: Did that give you the shits, John? 624 00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:55,350 Speaker 2: No, it didn't. It didn't. It meant we were winning 625 00:26:55,369 --> 00:26:59,100 Speaker 2: for starters, Dino, if he's doing handstands. And we embraced it. 626 00:26:59,550 --> 00:27:01,889 Speaker 2: But there was strong leadership around it. So obviously you 627 00:27:01,910 --> 00:27:04,939 Speaker 2: had Lee Matthews there. So Acker won a best and fairest, 628 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 2: had finally had a good consistent year in his fifth year. 629 00:27:08,140 --> 00:27:10,459 Speaker 2: Now Rochelle is only in his third year. They average 630 00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:14,010 Speaker 2: about the same number. have disposed of a game, same 631 00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:16,790 Speaker 2: number of goals, and they're both prodigious talents. So I 632 00:27:16,810 --> 00:27:18,370 Speaker 2: think it's just going to take a little bit of time. 633 00:27:18,750 --> 00:27:21,870 Speaker 2: Leadership from Matthew Nix, no doubt about it, but also 634 00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:25,530 Speaker 2: some strong leadership from the players. Not to get the 635 00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:29,450 Speaker 2: shits up with potentially Joshua Shelley's going to show some 636 00:27:29,490 --> 00:27:31,730 Speaker 2: excitement after he kicks a goal and get the crowd 637 00:27:31,780 --> 00:27:34,100 Speaker 2: going and not get the shits up about that sort 638 00:27:34,140 --> 00:27:36,060 Speaker 2: of stuff. Now, yes, I'm not sure you want to 639 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: be signaling to the opposition team supporters you don't have teeth, 640 00:27:40,060 --> 00:27:43,619 Speaker 2: but embrace that. You know, don't be sort of, you know, 641 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 2: Josh Rochelle is not one of us because this guy 642 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 2: is going to be. He's a rare talent, and he's 643 00:27:49,940 --> 00:27:52,470 Speaker 2: going to have the capabilities to lift you up into 644 00:27:52,530 --> 00:28:04,649 Speaker 2: September and to win big finals, just like Jason Ackermanis 645 00:28:04,670 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 2: did for all those years, especially in big games. So 646 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,900 Speaker 2: that was just my observation, boys. 647 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,420 Speaker 5: No, really well said, JB. And I think you're spot 648 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 5: on because... He's kicked 30 goals this year. 649 00:28:15,540 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 4: For a small forward in a. 650 00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:21,189 Speaker 5: Side that struggled, he's amazing. He's played every game. He's 651 00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:23,909 Speaker 5: 21 years of age. He's already played 56 games of footy. 652 00:28:24,430 --> 00:28:27,010 Speaker 5: And he's kicked multiple goals on nine occasions just this 653 00:28:27,030 --> 00:28:27,550 Speaker 5: year alone. 654 00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:31,370 Speaker 4: So his footy alone does the talking. If I was 655 00:28:31,410 --> 00:28:32,010 Speaker 4: his manager. 656 00:28:33,270 --> 00:28:36,939 Speaker 5: or a leader at the club, I'd say, Josh, you 657 00:28:36,980 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 5: don't need to do as much media. Next year, I 658 00:28:40,060 --> 00:28:44,410 Speaker 5: want you to focus on your footy alone, making sure 659 00:28:44,430 --> 00:28:46,650 Speaker 5: that those iffy moments when you duck your head and 660 00:28:46,670 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 5: you pull out a contest– are eradicated from your game. 661 00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:52,060 Speaker 3: How do you train that though? That's like a, that 662 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 3: is a fight or flee type of emotion. How do 663 00:28:54,180 --> 00:28:56,900 Speaker 3: you actually train that? 664 00:28:56,980 --> 00:28:59,070 Speaker 2: It's habit. It's habit. No doubt about it. And you 665 00:28:59,090 --> 00:29:01,030 Speaker 2: know what? The one the other night wasn't the worst 666 00:29:01,050 --> 00:29:03,290 Speaker 2: I've seen. No. You can see what he's trying to do. 667 00:29:03,310 --> 00:29:05,690 Speaker 2: He's trying to quickly grab that ball and get out 668 00:29:05,730 --> 00:29:06,690 Speaker 2: of the way of contact. 669 00:29:07,030 --> 00:29:08,620 Speaker 3: But how do you– how do you like what? Just 670 00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:11,180 Speaker 3: do it 100 times or do you let 10 blokes 671 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,780 Speaker 3: smash into the back of you so you realise that 672 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 3: you're not soft? 673 00:29:13,140 --> 00:29:13,500 Speaker 1: It's like anything. 674 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 4: You want to become a good kick, then you practice 675 00:29:16,180 --> 00:29:16,620 Speaker 4: your kicking. 676 00:29:16,660 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 5: You want to be better at your ground balls and 677 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 5: hard balls. 678 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,690 Speaker 4: You just get the bags out. You just continue to 679 00:29:21,730 --> 00:29:23,090 Speaker 4: do it. And I'll tell you one thing. 680 00:29:23,650 --> 00:29:25,710 Speaker 5: If Joshua Shelley hadn't have made the comments during the 681 00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:28,310 Speaker 5: week and he hadn't have kicked the goal and done 682 00:29:28,330 --> 00:29:33,430 Speaker 5: the celebration, then that contest, which– would have happened 50 683 00:29:33,430 --> 00:29:36,500 Speaker 5: times over the course of the round, wouldn't have been highlighted. 684 00:29:36,780 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 4: But they're looking for it now, right? Players... journos. 685 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 5: Are looking for it because he's put the spotlight firmly 686 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:49,180 Speaker 5: on himself because of the outside stuff. So minimalise your 687 00:29:49,220 --> 00:29:53,290 Speaker 5: media stuff and focus on your footy. And I guarantee you, 688 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 5: If he does that, he'll be in all Australian forward 689 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 5: pocket at some stage in the next three or four years. 690 00:29:58,620 --> 00:30:01,580 Speaker 3: But he's been dropped. So what do we do about that? Well, Bigfoot, 691 00:30:01,620 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 3: he says he's been dropped. 692 00:30:02,620 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 5: No, if he doesn't play, he doesn't play. It could 693 00:30:04,380 --> 00:30:07,980 Speaker 5: be the good kick up the arse he needs leading 694 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,820 Speaker 5: into the offseason. 695 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: Ace, let's stay in Adelaide for a second. When the 696 00:30:11,700 --> 00:30:14,940 Speaker 1: Rankin thing happened, I mentioned this on the WhatsApp thread, 697 00:30:15,700 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: Mark Rusciuto has no poker face about how delighted he 698 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:25,590 Speaker 1: was about a big ban. Zero poker face, John. He 699 00:30:25,610 --> 00:30:27,590 Speaker 1: just kept bringing it up to the point where one 700 00:30:27,610 --> 00:30:30,330 Speaker 1: of the other commentators said, look, we'll talk about MRP later. 701 00:30:30,350 --> 00:30:31,950 Speaker 4: Let's... MRO. 702 00:30:32,050 --> 00:30:32,550 Speaker 2: MRO. 703 00:30:33,050 --> 00:30:33,770 Speaker 1: That's what I meant. 704 00:30:34,170 --> 00:30:37,420 Speaker 2: Fair dinkum. Is that right? Because I watched it in silence. 705 00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 2: I watched the wide view. And so Roo was fired 706 00:30:40,340 --> 00:30:42,140 Speaker 2: up because he's still on the board there at the 707 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: Adelaide Craze. He's well and truly invested. He's the footy director. 708 00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: Bro, did you hear it? 709 00:30:46,540 --> 00:30:48,500 Speaker 3: You know I don't listen to the commentary when he 710 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 3: is commentating Port games. I will mute the TV, watch it, and. 711 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,500 Speaker 1: Put SEN on. 712 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,060 Speaker 3: Because I cannot stand Roo's biasism. Bias? 713 00:30:56,420 --> 00:30:59,300 Speaker 2: Biasism. He is... As good as my hacker. 714 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,420 Speaker 3: Mate, Adelaide were butchering the ball, and all of a 715 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,460 Speaker 3: sudden it's... And then Port turned over once, and they've 716 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 3: been lethal by foot. And he goes, geez, Port aren't 717 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:06,959 Speaker 3: using the. 718 00:31:06,940 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: Ball well, mate. 719 00:31:07,660 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 3: You've over-mitted! Adelaide turning it over 45 times. 720 00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:13,239 Speaker 1: Put it this way. Put it this way. He'll say 721 00:31:13,260 --> 00:31:15,330 Speaker 1: things like, I'll tell you what, Houston's going to get 722 00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:16,010 Speaker 1: a big holiday. 723 00:31:16,030 --> 00:31:17,170 Speaker 2: I hope that doesn't happen. 724 00:31:17,370 --> 00:31:19,670 Speaker 1: But he was saying it with a smile. He was 725 00:31:19,710 --> 00:31:20,750 Speaker 1: saying it with a smile. 726 00:31:20,970 --> 00:31:22,250 Speaker 3: I can't with that guy, honestly. 727 00:31:22,410 --> 00:31:25,530 Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Hey, I was drunk at the pub with Sticks 728 00:31:25,570 --> 00:31:27,150 Speaker 1: and he's got a story for us after the break. 729 00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: Back in a second. Welcome back to Brownies Podcast. Follow 730 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: us at Brownies Podcast on TikTok and Instagram and all 731 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: that stuff. This weekend of footy is going to be insane. 732 00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:40,660 Speaker 4: It is, Dino. 733 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 5: But I'll tell you what we haven't asked you about, Logie. 734 00:31:43,140 --> 00:31:46,740 Speaker 5: So you missed Monday because I think it was fine. 735 00:31:47,110 --> 00:31:48,950 Speaker 4: You probably would have been the most sober person. 736 00:31:48,970 --> 00:31:51,770 Speaker 5: You wouldn't have been the most pissed person on the potty, 737 00:31:51,810 --> 00:31:54,450 Speaker 5: put it that way, on Monday had we got you on. 738 00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:56,430 Speaker 4: I'd add a few Sunday night. 739 00:31:57,970 --> 00:31:58,350 Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. 740 00:31:58,370 --> 00:32:00,030 Speaker 1: No, I listened back and you tried to blame it 741 00:32:00,170 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: on commentating a lot. 742 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: How was it? 743 00:32:05,340 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 5: Did you end up in anyone's room late? And how 744 00:32:08,340 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 5: was Sam Pang greeted after the Logies? 745 00:32:10,970 --> 00:32:13,630 Speaker 1: So we worked, while Pangy was doing it, we just 746 00:32:13,670 --> 00:32:16,210 Speaker 1: wanted to, you know, do the best job and have 747 00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:19,210 Speaker 1: a great time. So we didn't drink until 11.30. So 748 00:32:19,250 --> 00:32:23,890 Speaker 1: that means your regular night, your party hours start at midnight, essentially. 749 00:32:23,930 --> 00:32:26,690 Speaker 1: So I finished at about six, but not because we 750 00:32:26,710 --> 00:32:28,350 Speaker 1: wanted to go until the sun came up. It just 751 00:32:28,390 --> 00:32:31,890 Speaker 1: felt natural. But we ended up in Pangy's room. 752 00:32:31,910 --> 00:32:34,510 Speaker 2: No, Daryl Summer's room this year. 753 00:32:35,010 --> 00:32:37,310 Speaker 1: Summer's not there. But I'll tell you who was there 754 00:32:37,330 --> 00:32:39,290 Speaker 1: and who was an absolute ripper, Dale Kerrigan. 755 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,459 Speaker 2: Oh, was he? He's a river. 756 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,060 Speaker 1: Stephen Curry. 757 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,900 Speaker 2: Okay, Stephen Curry. He got up on stage with Andy Lee, 758 00:32:44,940 --> 00:32:48,390 Speaker 2: came out dressed as, were they Marvel characters? 759 00:32:48,790 --> 00:32:51,470 Speaker 1: Deadpool and Wolverine. So it's so weird, like when you're 760 00:32:52,050 --> 00:32:54,330 Speaker 1: in the backstage area just working with Sam, it's so 761 00:32:54,370 --> 00:32:57,410 Speaker 1: weird just seeing Andy walking around dressed as Deadpool. Into 762 00:32:57,430 --> 00:33:00,350 Speaker 1: some of the conversations you hear. It was so much fun. 763 00:33:00,370 --> 00:33:02,030 Speaker 1: But how good did he do? Our boy's a genius. 764 00:33:02,070 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 3: Did Sam have fluffers just to get him prepped and 765 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 3: ready to go? Or like, what is it when they 766 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 3: bring an attractive horse and just kind of run it 767 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,220 Speaker 3: past the males just so they get the horn up? 768 00:33:11,270 --> 00:33:12,190 Speaker 3: What's that called? A fluffer? 769 00:33:12,210 --> 00:33:15,469 Speaker 2: Yeah, a fluffer pony. What was on the menu? Lemon chicken, 770 00:33:15,990 --> 00:33:19,470 Speaker 2: sweet and sour pork, or? No, no. No? 771 00:33:19,630 --> 00:33:20,330 Speaker 1: Spring rolls. 772 00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:22,090 Speaker 3: There was burrata. I've seen the menu, actually. 773 00:33:22,110 --> 00:33:22,270 Speaker 1: Burrata? 774 00:33:22,290 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 3: There was burrata. There was kingfish sashimi, I think, or carpaccio. 775 00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 3: What else was on there? 776 00:33:26,660 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: That's right. 777 00:33:26,980 --> 00:33:29,270 Speaker 3: There was a big lamb with gold logi on it. 778 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 5: Who was the biggest cockhead you met, Dino? Is there 779 00:33:31,220 --> 00:33:33,180 Speaker 5: any real flogs that thought they were going better than 780 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,500 Speaker 5: they were? Thought they should have won a gold logi? 781 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,690 Speaker 2: A bit like Ive and Malat a few years ago. 782 00:33:38,330 --> 00:33:39,790 Speaker 1: No one was a flog, but geez. 783 00:33:39,810 --> 00:33:40,750 Speaker 4: That would have had to have been. 784 00:33:41,490 --> 00:33:43,100 Speaker 1: Someone that got a few bullets in him was Dr. 785 00:33:43,140 --> 00:33:43,820 Speaker 1: Chris Brown. 786 00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny. 787 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: At the after party, we're like, hey, man, it's all 788 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,460 Speaker 1: with love. And he's like, because he's big dog and 789 00:33:50,510 --> 00:33:54,170 Speaker 1: like great looking man. He's a beautiful man. And he 790 00:33:54,210 --> 00:33:56,010 Speaker 1: was like saying with everyone, no, it's all right. It's 791 00:33:56,050 --> 00:33:57,570 Speaker 1: all right. But I just felt like he could crush 792 00:33:57,610 --> 00:33:58,510 Speaker 1: me at any second, John. 793 00:33:58,930 --> 00:34:02,180 Speaker 2: Hey, what about, I felt as if the acceptance speeches were, 794 00:34:03,260 --> 00:34:06,380 Speaker 2: They were very safe because last year, you know, they 795 00:34:06,420 --> 00:34:08,710 Speaker 2: tried to come out because obviously they got the confidence up. 796 00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:13,250 Speaker 2: Payne's delivered an unbelievable monologue last year. And I think 797 00:34:13,270 --> 00:34:16,310 Speaker 2: the winners thought, oh, yeah, that's a warm crowd here, 798 00:34:16,390 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: so I'm going to try and roll out some of 799 00:34:17,660 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 2: my own gear. And it fell flat, didn't it? Whereas 800 00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 2: this year was safe as. 801 00:34:22,820 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: John, it goes to show it's not easy what Pang does. 802 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,620 Speaker 1: You can't just be a comedian. It's jarring and you'll 803 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,770 Speaker 1: deliver it weirdly. Well, exactly right. 804 00:34:29,850 --> 00:34:32,790 Speaker 2: And you must understand that Pang spends about a month 805 00:34:33,050 --> 00:34:36,470 Speaker 2: preparing for that, if not longer, and goes and tries 806 00:34:36,510 --> 00:34:42,780 Speaker 2: various performances around the trap. So Pang, he's a master ad-libber. 807 00:34:43,300 --> 00:34:45,819 Speaker 2: He's a master ad-libber. Don't you worry about that. But 808 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: there is a semblance of preparation behind the man, behind 809 00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 2: the monologue. 810 00:34:51,110 --> 00:34:53,549 Speaker 1: It's a passion. It's a skill. It's a craft. But, hey, 811 00:34:53,590 --> 00:34:56,989 Speaker 1: how touching was the tribute to the great late, great late, 812 00:34:57,070 --> 00:35:00,510 Speaker 1: late great Jack Carlson? Oh, yeah, the In Memoriam. 813 00:35:00,530 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 2: I love that. That was a great way to bring 814 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,980 Speaker 2: home the In Memoriam. Yeah, unbelievable. 815 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,259 Speaker 1: I would have thought when he got hustled into that 816 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: divvy van in 1991 that 30-odd years later it would 817 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: be a tribute at the Logies. 818 00:35:12,020 --> 00:35:14,969 Speaker 2: I know. One of our boys that listens, he's one 819 00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:18,190 Speaker 2: of the producers, when we do the broadcast up in Queensland, 820 00:35:18,230 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 2: he said, you've got to try and weave– succulent into 821 00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:26,130 Speaker 2: the commentary. I'm thinking, shit. Like he reminded me the 822 00:35:26,170 --> 00:35:30,609 Speaker 2: other day when Brisbane were playing GWS. But I was 823 00:35:30,650 --> 00:35:33,530 Speaker 2: just thinking, geez, how do you get succulent in without 824 00:35:33,590 --> 00:35:34,550 Speaker 2: it being too jarring? 825 00:35:34,989 --> 00:35:37,129 Speaker 1: Well, Bruce could have. He got delicious in, didn't he? 826 00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:39,969 Speaker 5: Yeah, if someone kicks a goal, you go, oh, that 827 00:35:40,010 --> 00:35:42,910 Speaker 5: was succulent. You know, it's going to sound weird, but. 828 00:35:43,070 --> 00:35:45,270 Speaker 2: It's going to sound weird. I'm just trying to work 829 00:35:45,330 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 2: it out because, you know, I can understand... Temerity. Temerity. 830 00:35:50,340 --> 00:35:54,100 Speaker 2: I can't even get the word right. Spasmodic's an easy one. Yeah. Yeah. 831 00:35:54,380 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: But succulent. You feel like, is that a bridge too far? 832 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,020 Speaker 5: I don't think anything is a bridge too far. 833 00:36:01,500 --> 00:36:02,540 Speaker 1: It's good to see you all. 834 00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: And, hey, it's going to be a massive weekend. Was 835 00:36:06,660 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 2: there any other games we need to cover? We covered more, 836 00:36:08,820 --> 00:36:11,620 Speaker 2: didn't we? Bulldogs, Giants, Port Friar, Carlton, St Kilda. 837 00:36:12,180 --> 00:36:14,859 Speaker 4: Yeah. We probably haven't paid enough respect to. 838 00:36:15,950 --> 00:36:19,989 Speaker 5: The Gold Coast Suns-Richmond game. 839 00:36:21,730 --> 00:36:25,790 Speaker 2: Dusty and Dimmacap. A nice end of five for Dusty. 840 00:36:25,810 --> 00:36:26,870 Speaker 2: Get along and watch Dusty. 841 00:36:27,469 --> 00:36:29,450 Speaker 1: And all eyes on Carlton this weekend. It's going to 842 00:36:29,489 --> 00:36:31,670 Speaker 1: be spicy. Degenerates, we'll see you soon. 843 00:36:32,270 --> 00:36:33,150 Speaker 2: Love you so much, Degenerates.