1 00:00:05,881 --> 00:00:13,241 Speaker 1: Apoday Production. Welcome to the She Rises Podcast. I'm Ashy 2 00:00:13,281 --> 00:00:16,881 Speaker 1: and I'm Tiana. This podcast is about female empowerment. 3 00:00:16,441 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: And encouraging you to be your biggest, boldest, and most 4 00:00:19,201 --> 00:00:20,801 Speaker 2: authentic version of yourself. 5 00:00:20,961 --> 00:00:23,281 Speaker 1: We help you shed the shame, grow to new level. 6 00:00:23,321 --> 00:00:25,641 Speaker 1: We're gonna laugh and cry and talk about the topics 7 00:00:25,881 --> 00:00:27,801 Speaker 1: everyone else is too afraid to talk about. 8 00:00:28,401 --> 00:00:30,761 Speaker 2: Get ready for your next level of self. 9 00:00:31,241 --> 00:00:35,081 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome back to she Rises. Another big week. 10 00:00:35,361 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: Everyone calls this time the silly season. 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 3: I call it the busy season. 12 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:39,321 Speaker 2: It's so busy. 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:40,241 Speaker 3: It's so busy. 14 00:00:40,281 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: But we're in December now, near the end of the year. 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: Hope you guys enjoyed Twelve Days of Christmas and all 16 00:00:44,801 --> 00:00:46,361 Speaker 1: the other episodes we've got coming up. I can't believe 17 00:00:46,361 --> 00:00:47,921 Speaker 1: we're nearly done with twenty twenty five. 18 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: I know, I can't believe how much has happened in 19 00:00:49,801 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: this year. It's gone so fast. 20 00:00:52,001 --> 00:00:54,121 Speaker 1: Wild, But we've got a big year next year. We 21 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,041 Speaker 1: really do very exciting. Today's episode it's a little bit spicy, 22 00:00:57,041 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: a little bit sexual. We were talking about orgasms, how 23 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: amazing they are, how beneficial they are, and also what 24 00:01:02,641 --> 00:01:05,601 Speaker 1: can hold you back from having an orgasm and speriencing 25 00:01:05,601 --> 00:01:06,681 Speaker 1: that level of pleasure. 26 00:01:07,081 --> 00:01:08,801 Speaker 3: But before we do, watch your Share of the Week. 27 00:01:09,081 --> 00:01:11,321 Speaker 2: So My Share of the Week is actually a book. Now, 28 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,441 Speaker 2: I've had lots of conversations with clients of mine, friends, 29 00:01:14,521 --> 00:01:18,321 Speaker 2: and this has been a game changer for me around communication. Yes, 30 00:01:18,401 --> 00:01:23,161 Speaker 2: so the book is called Nonviolent Communication by Marshall b Rosenberg. 31 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,121 Speaker 2: Now this teaches you a really simple framework to help 32 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,721 Speaker 2: you have hard conversations and to be able to communicate 33 00:01:30,761 --> 00:01:33,721 Speaker 2: in a way that kind of prevents conflict. So it's 34 00:01:33,761 --> 00:01:38,041 Speaker 2: a real powerhouse. This transformed for me personally how I communicate. 35 00:01:38,481 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: That's saying a lot considering I used to be a 36 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: bit of an ice queen, like back in the day. 37 00:01:42,241 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: I never used to know how to communicate. Yeah, so no, 38 00:01:45,121 --> 00:01:46,961 Speaker 2: I would keep people at arm's length and I would 39 00:01:46,961 --> 00:01:48,681 Speaker 2: be so terrified to voice what it was that I 40 00:01:48,721 --> 00:01:51,761 Speaker 2: wanted that I would come off as really cold. So yeah, 41 00:01:51,801 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: this really really helps me. So if you're stialing with 42 00:01:54,121 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: issues with communication, you're scared you can't have hard conversations. 43 00:01:57,561 --> 00:01:58,441 Speaker 2: This is really powerful. 44 00:01:58,681 --> 00:02:01,601 Speaker 1: Love that mine is a beauty product. I've got it 45 00:02:01,601 --> 00:02:03,641 Speaker 1: in my hot little hands. Er hunt if you're an 46 00:02:03,641 --> 00:02:06,121 Speaker 1: oily girl and you find you get shiny. 47 00:02:06,481 --> 00:02:08,121 Speaker 3: This has been an absolute game changer. 48 00:02:08,241 --> 00:02:10,641 Speaker 1: But I think there is a way to apply it 49 00:02:11,121 --> 00:02:14,161 Speaker 1: that I'm still practicing. But we recently had a new 50 00:02:14,201 --> 00:02:16,921 Speaker 1: makeup butter As do our makeup and my makeup. The 51 00:02:16,921 --> 00:02:18,961 Speaker 1: first one I got it done with her, my makeup 52 00:02:19,001 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: did not shift. I didn't get shiny for a whole 53 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,561 Speaker 1: nine hours. Got to the end of the day after 54 00:02:22,641 --> 00:02:24,721 Speaker 1: the wedding, I was like, oh my gosh, I'm not shiny. 55 00:02:24,761 --> 00:02:27,121 Speaker 1: I haven't had to touch my makeup at all. So 56 00:02:27,321 --> 00:02:30,441 Speaker 1: it's by Herd of Beauty and it's a loose powder. 57 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,321 Speaker 1: It's called easy Bake, and I'm in the color pound Cake. 58 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: It's got a slight tint to it. But you don't 59 00:02:36,841 --> 00:02:38,601 Speaker 1: just whack it on a brush and brush it on. Mean, 60 00:02:38,641 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: you can do that, but the way the makeup I 61 00:02:40,081 --> 00:02:41,161 Speaker 1: have did it, which she puts it on one of 62 00:02:41,161 --> 00:02:44,521 Speaker 1: those little pads, puts the product on and then presses 63 00:02:44,561 --> 00:02:49,121 Speaker 1: the product into the palm of her hand, which primes it. 64 00:02:49,201 --> 00:02:52,721 Speaker 1: Then pushes it into my skin and it's flawless. It literally, 65 00:02:52,721 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: if I was to show you a video, it kind 66 00:02:54,161 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: of minimizes and makes your paws look airbrushed. 67 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:58,121 Speaker 3: It's wild. 68 00:02:58,921 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: I lost my little pad thing so I could be 69 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,441 Speaker 1: using a brush light and it doesn't work the same. 70 00:03:03,041 --> 00:03:06,041 Speaker 1: But I really love this powder oily girl. Try to get 71 00:03:06,001 --> 00:03:08,081 Speaker 1: one of those little pads and press it into your 72 00:03:08,121 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: hand first and then into your skin and all make 73 00:03:10,401 --> 00:03:11,481 Speaker 1: your makeup last. 74 00:03:11,361 --> 00:03:12,041 Speaker 3: So much longer. 75 00:03:12,081 --> 00:03:13,161 Speaker 2: We love an airbrushed look. 76 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,761 Speaker 1: I do love hood to beauty. I've tried one of 77 00:03:14,761 --> 00:03:17,721 Speaker 1: their lip glosses, one of their lipliners. It's really good quality. 78 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,881 Speaker 2: It's just a Sephora beautiful bit more pricey, but worth it, 79 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: worth it, Yeah, good investment, Yes, beautiful. 80 00:03:23,441 --> 00:03:26,481 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about orgasms, the big, oh. 81 00:03:26,601 --> 00:03:27,081 Speaker 3: The bigger. 82 00:03:29,361 --> 00:03:31,561 Speaker 1: We all love them, we do, we absolutely do. 83 00:03:31,641 --> 00:03:33,321 Speaker 2: But everyone talks about it like it's a big dirty 84 00:03:33,361 --> 00:03:34,881 Speaker 2: secret anything sexual. 85 00:03:34,921 --> 00:03:36,281 Speaker 3: Hey, yeah, it's crazy. 86 00:03:36,321 --> 00:03:38,321 Speaker 1: But even our stats when we look at our downloads, 87 00:03:38,601 --> 00:03:41,201 Speaker 1: the most downloaded episodes are always the ones that involve sex. 88 00:03:41,401 --> 00:03:43,881 Speaker 1: They are everyone's talking about it, everyone's interested in it, 89 00:03:43,921 --> 00:03:44,841 Speaker 1: everyone's doing it. 90 00:03:44,921 --> 00:03:45,801 Speaker 3: Why is it so taboo? 91 00:03:45,961 --> 00:03:49,041 Speaker 2: It is such a taperod topic. And I find it's 92 00:03:49,081 --> 00:03:52,041 Speaker 2: so interesting that something that is so natural, yeah, something 93 00:03:52,081 --> 00:03:53,881 Speaker 2: that everyone seems to be sel afraid. 94 00:03:53,721 --> 00:03:56,321 Speaker 3: To talk about and so pleasurable and that creates life. 95 00:03:56,521 --> 00:03:58,881 Speaker 1: Why is it looked at as dirty or wrong or 96 00:03:58,921 --> 00:04:00,201 Speaker 1: something we shouldn't talk about. 97 00:04:00,401 --> 00:04:02,161 Speaker 2: It's like shamed. Why immediately? 98 00:04:02,361 --> 00:04:05,361 Speaker 1: Yeah, So today we're gonna uncover and just talk about 99 00:04:06,001 --> 00:04:09,401 Speaker 1: what prevents us from reaching an orgasm. And this conversation 100 00:04:09,521 --> 00:04:11,841 Speaker 1: sparked because we had, in fact, a couple of Besty 101 00:04:11,921 --> 00:04:13,681 Speaker 1: Advice submissions come in and well, look, we get a lot, 102 00:04:13,721 --> 00:04:15,201 Speaker 1: so we haven't got through them all, but we did 103 00:04:15,281 --> 00:04:17,161 Speaker 1: notice a couple come through of women who are struggling 104 00:04:17,241 --> 00:04:19,401 Speaker 1: to get there, and I think there's so many reasons 105 00:04:19,441 --> 00:04:21,601 Speaker 1: why women do. So we're going to talk about personal 106 00:04:21,601 --> 00:04:24,761 Speaker 1: things that prevented us from reaching the big O or 107 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,361 Speaker 1: just impacting how long it takes us to get there, 108 00:04:27,401 --> 00:04:29,361 Speaker 1: and not that it's a rush to get there, but 109 00:04:29,641 --> 00:04:32,281 Speaker 1: I'll start for me personally, it means he's so good 110 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,041 Speaker 1: in bed, but I love that. 111 00:04:35,081 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: For you, it doesn't struggle. 112 00:04:36,641 --> 00:04:39,761 Speaker 1: But I know there has been times where I've been 113 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,481 Speaker 1: in my head if I'm really stressed, or I haven't 114 00:04:43,481 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: taken the time beforehand to have a shower and get 115 00:04:46,641 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: in my feminine energy and hop in a nice nicety 116 00:04:48,681 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: or put music on and just things that help my 117 00:04:50,641 --> 00:04:54,161 Speaker 1: body soften and relax, or the kids have interrupted us 118 00:04:54,201 --> 00:04:56,601 Speaker 1: three times already. I'm like, I can't get there because 119 00:04:56,601 --> 00:04:58,681 Speaker 1: I'm just like stressed about when the next knock at 120 00:04:58,681 --> 00:05:01,041 Speaker 1: the door is going to be, or if I'm super 121 00:05:01,081 --> 00:05:03,481 Speaker 1: disregulated and just like not in the mood and having 122 00:05:03,521 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: a hard time or want to. It just feels harder 123 00:05:06,681 --> 00:05:09,121 Speaker 1: because I'm so in my head, I'm not in my body. 124 00:05:09,401 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: When Steve and I go away, it's just like the 125 00:05:11,001 --> 00:05:13,361 Speaker 1: best I feel like, I'm instantly like stress has gone away, 126 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,921 Speaker 1: and it just feels so much easier and more enjoyable 127 00:05:16,921 --> 00:05:19,921 Speaker 1: and more pleasurable to get there multiple times because I'm 128 00:05:19,921 --> 00:05:22,361 Speaker 1: not stressed and I'm out of my head, my parents' 129 00:05:22,361 --> 00:05:24,481 Speaker 1: hats off, my work hat's off, and I'm just so 130 00:05:25,041 --> 00:05:26,601 Speaker 1: present with him with my body. 131 00:05:26,721 --> 00:05:28,121 Speaker 2: I was just thinking about the time of your message 132 00:05:28,161 --> 00:05:29,921 Speaker 2: me and You're like, yeah, just guys, I'm like six 133 00:05:30,041 --> 00:05:33,801 Speaker 2: fives and sorry. It was the only thing that came 134 00:05:33,841 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: to my head then, So I was just like, I 135 00:05:35,361 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: fucking love that for you. Yeah, there's nothing more like 136 00:05:38,081 --> 00:05:40,601 Speaker 2: powerful than a woman who's lit up and like, yeah, 137 00:05:41,001 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: sexually connected to herself it's like that life force energy. 138 00:05:43,801 --> 00:05:45,601 Speaker 1: People wonder why we go on stay case each month, 139 00:05:46,281 --> 00:05:50,001 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. Or is at home guarantee we 140 00:05:50,081 --> 00:05:51,641 Speaker 1: get to knock at the door every single time, even 141 00:05:51,681 --> 00:05:53,521 Speaker 1: if think it's gone to bed, to be like, what 142 00:05:53,561 --> 00:05:55,961 Speaker 1: time you guys go to bed? I'm thirsty, I'm hungry. 143 00:05:56,001 --> 00:05:56,681 Speaker 1: What are you guys doing? 144 00:05:56,721 --> 00:05:57,361 Speaker 3: I want to talk? 145 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,761 Speaker 2: What hang? It's like, oh my god, like five minutes please. 146 00:06:00,921 --> 00:06:02,121 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is hard. 147 00:06:02,201 --> 00:06:05,241 Speaker 1: If you are super disregulated, you're stressed, you're in your head, 148 00:06:05,401 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: you were going to find it a lot harder to 149 00:06:07,121 --> 00:06:08,801 Speaker 1: reach an orgasm. Yeah. 150 00:06:08,841 --> 00:06:11,721 Speaker 2: Absolutely, It's so interesting. I mean I've spoken about obviously 151 00:06:11,761 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: the video of a few times on here, but like 152 00:06:13,401 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: speak to it in a different way. When that video happened. 153 00:06:17,561 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if I've mentioned this before, but I 154 00:06:19,361 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: really struggled to self pleasure after that experience happened. So 155 00:06:22,521 --> 00:06:24,561 Speaker 2: for anyone who's listening for the first time, who doesn't know, 156 00:06:24,921 --> 00:06:26,721 Speaker 2: I have an episode way back when at the beginning 157 00:06:26,721 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: of the year about a sex tape that was released 158 00:06:29,081 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: by a next partner of mine that wasn't like I 159 00:06:31,681 --> 00:06:34,401 Speaker 2: had no consent to. So this happened without my consent. 160 00:06:34,481 --> 00:06:37,081 Speaker 2: And went around my hometown and completely changed my life 161 00:06:37,081 --> 00:06:39,081 Speaker 2: and the trajectory of my life. So if you haven't listened, 162 00:06:39,161 --> 00:06:42,881 Speaker 2: go back and listen. But otherwise, after that experience, I 163 00:06:42,961 --> 00:06:46,161 Speaker 2: really felt disconnected from my pleasure and my body. And 164 00:06:46,241 --> 00:06:47,921 Speaker 2: I think it was a way of coping at the 165 00:06:47,961 --> 00:06:51,681 Speaker 2: time because at the time I had this story of like, 166 00:06:51,761 --> 00:06:54,161 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, you're so dirty for wanting sex and 167 00:06:54,761 --> 00:06:57,121 Speaker 2: engaging in it. And I felt like, you know, literally 168 00:06:57,161 --> 00:07:00,121 Speaker 2: like a quote unquote dirty girl because I got slut 169 00:07:00,161 --> 00:07:03,481 Speaker 2: shamed for it, you know, and women and men both 170 00:07:03,721 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: everyone was like, you're a slut, You're so dirty, so gross, 171 00:07:07,241 --> 00:07:09,361 Speaker 2: like fucking ill, like as if you do that, like 172 00:07:09,401 --> 00:07:11,441 Speaker 2: what a skank, and like all of the like slut 173 00:07:11,441 --> 00:07:13,961 Speaker 2: shaming things that kind of came with that. And so 174 00:07:14,281 --> 00:07:16,121 Speaker 2: after that, I was like, Nope, I'm just going to 175 00:07:16,161 --> 00:07:18,801 Speaker 2: shut myself off to that part of myself. I stopped 176 00:07:18,801 --> 00:07:22,201 Speaker 2: self pleasuring if I were in a relationship, when at 177 00:07:22,201 --> 00:07:23,961 Speaker 2: the time I actually was in a relationship. When I 178 00:07:24,001 --> 00:07:28,801 Speaker 2: found out, and I remember our intimacy and like having sex, 179 00:07:29,281 --> 00:07:32,041 Speaker 2: I was like more in my head than I was anything. 180 00:07:32,641 --> 00:07:35,521 Speaker 2: So it was always like a performative based thing for me. 181 00:07:35,921 --> 00:07:38,241 Speaker 2: Where I was just doing the thing to do the thing, 182 00:07:38,441 --> 00:07:41,561 Speaker 2: as opposed to one genuinely feel good pleasure, to please 183 00:07:41,561 --> 00:07:44,121 Speaker 2: your partner, to please my partner, put on a show 184 00:07:44,241 --> 00:07:46,201 Speaker 2: to make sure it was all about him, because I 185 00:07:46,241 --> 00:07:48,281 Speaker 2: was so disconnected from myself that I was like, Oh, 186 00:07:48,281 --> 00:07:51,401 Speaker 2: don't worry about me. There doesn't matter, It doesn't really matter. 187 00:07:51,441 --> 00:07:53,721 Speaker 2: I was just like they were even times, babe, where 188 00:07:53,721 --> 00:07:56,281 Speaker 2: I would finish having sex and then I would like, 189 00:07:56,401 --> 00:07:58,921 Speaker 2: go get myself off in the bathroom. I would go 190 00:07:58,921 --> 00:08:01,681 Speaker 2: play with myself in the bathroom because I would feel 191 00:08:01,721 --> 00:08:04,841 Speaker 2: guilty for asking and wanting that, because I didn't want 192 00:08:04,881 --> 00:08:08,281 Speaker 2: one more person to see me wanting sex or a 193 00:08:08,361 --> 00:08:10,921 Speaker 2: pleasure or so much things. Yeah, and that was a 194 00:08:10,961 --> 00:08:13,361 Speaker 2: really challenging thing to go through with someone so young. 195 00:08:13,361 --> 00:08:15,841 Speaker 2: Because I had this conflict about me. I was like, 196 00:08:15,921 --> 00:08:18,481 Speaker 2: I love this, I want to explore this, I want 197 00:08:18,561 --> 00:08:20,961 Speaker 2: to push my limits in this. And because I had 198 00:08:21,001 --> 00:08:22,681 Speaker 2: carried all this shame, I was like, but you're not 199 00:08:22,761 --> 00:08:24,961 Speaker 2: allowed to. You shouldn't want that. You're such a dirty girl. 200 00:08:25,001 --> 00:08:27,281 Speaker 2: So it was this internal battle that was kind of 201 00:08:27,321 --> 00:08:30,041 Speaker 2: going back and forth in my head at all times 202 00:08:30,441 --> 00:08:32,601 Speaker 2: when it came to that. So even in the moments 203 00:08:32,641 --> 00:08:34,521 Speaker 2: when I'd be with a partner and i'd explore something 204 00:08:34,561 --> 00:08:36,921 Speaker 2: new for the first time, I'd open up and I'd 205 00:08:36,921 --> 00:08:39,121 Speaker 2: be like, yeah, okay, cool, blah blah blah, but no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 206 00:08:39,681 --> 00:08:42,081 Speaker 2: don't want to do that, and I would completely like 207 00:08:42,121 --> 00:08:45,441 Speaker 2: shut myself down in the time and something that has 208 00:08:45,521 --> 00:08:48,921 Speaker 2: taken me years, I think up until reading the book 209 00:08:48,961 --> 00:08:51,641 Speaker 2: Pussy the Reclamation. I highly recommend this book if you're 210 00:08:51,681 --> 00:08:54,441 Speaker 2: going through this journey yourself. I started reading that book 211 00:08:54,521 --> 00:08:56,961 Speaker 2: probably in twenty twenty two, and that was when I 212 00:08:57,001 --> 00:09:00,121 Speaker 2: first started to kind of reclaim my sexual energy. And 213 00:09:00,601 --> 00:09:03,521 Speaker 2: around that time, I started to push the limit and 214 00:09:03,561 --> 00:09:06,081 Speaker 2: I started to create like a self pleasure practice because 215 00:09:06,121 --> 00:09:09,401 Speaker 2: I was so disconnected from myself, couldn't even look at myself, 216 00:09:09,401 --> 00:09:11,361 Speaker 2: didn't want to play myself unless I had a partner, 217 00:09:11,561 --> 00:09:14,681 Speaker 2: like none of that stuff. And then yeah, I started 218 00:09:14,681 --> 00:09:17,481 Speaker 2: to reclaim it, started to create a practice. Wanted to 219 00:09:17,481 --> 00:09:20,961 Speaker 2: explore myself more, explore my own limits with pleasure. But 220 00:09:21,081 --> 00:09:24,081 Speaker 2: what I would find started to happen was that I 221 00:09:24,121 --> 00:09:27,681 Speaker 2: would set like a nice mood lighting like candles flod 222 00:09:27,761 --> 00:09:31,441 Speaker 2: lingerie on for myself, like lead myself into a listener, music, whatever, 223 00:09:31,921 --> 00:09:34,681 Speaker 2: and then as I was like reaching orgasm, I would 224 00:09:34,721 --> 00:09:38,681 Speaker 2: stop myself. And so it was like I didn't feel 225 00:09:38,721 --> 00:09:43,201 Speaker 2: safe orgasming because of all the shame that I was carrying. Yeah, 226 00:09:43,441 --> 00:09:45,321 Speaker 2: And so it was almost like a mental block in 227 00:09:45,401 --> 00:09:48,121 Speaker 2: some way that every time I would get right before 228 00:09:48,161 --> 00:09:50,441 Speaker 2: the peak of orgasm boom, I would stop and then 229 00:09:50,481 --> 00:09:52,121 Speaker 2: I'd be like, Okay, cool, that's enough. And then I'd 230 00:09:52,121 --> 00:09:53,201 Speaker 2: be like, oh yeah, and. 231 00:09:53,801 --> 00:09:55,961 Speaker 3: I stuff to always have the reward. No, you don't 232 00:09:55,961 --> 00:09:57,321 Speaker 3: deserve it because you're that's right. 233 00:09:57,241 --> 00:09:59,681 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. That was happening in my head. And 234 00:09:59,721 --> 00:10:02,401 Speaker 2: so for years on end, even when I would be 235 00:10:02,441 --> 00:10:04,921 Speaker 2: with a partner and he were like, say, playing with 236 00:10:04,921 --> 00:10:08,121 Speaker 2: me or like getting me to an orgasm, I would 237 00:10:08,201 --> 00:10:10,321 Speaker 2: stop him, yeah, because I'd be like, oh no, no, it's 238 00:10:10,361 --> 00:10:12,121 Speaker 2: too much, too much. But it wasn't because it was 239 00:10:12,121 --> 00:10:14,801 Speaker 2: too intense. It was because I didn't feel safe orgasming. Yeah, 240 00:10:14,841 --> 00:10:17,441 Speaker 2: And so I had to rebuild that relationship with myself 241 00:10:17,481 --> 00:10:19,881 Speaker 2: and my body. And the way that I found that 242 00:10:19,921 --> 00:10:22,241 Speaker 2: I've done that is in the moments when I find 243 00:10:22,241 --> 00:10:25,561 Speaker 2: myself wanting to stop or wanting to pull my head 244 00:10:25,601 --> 00:10:28,001 Speaker 2: out and you're also allowed to experience pleasure, like it 245 00:10:28,121 --> 00:10:31,001 Speaker 2: is safe to experience this right now. And so it 246 00:10:31,081 --> 00:10:33,761 Speaker 2: was a lot of self talk through the moments of 247 00:10:33,921 --> 00:10:36,921 Speaker 2: leading myself to that point so that I could finally 248 00:10:36,921 --> 00:10:40,401 Speaker 2: feel safe to actually orgasm. This is so interesting. I've 249 00:10:40,441 --> 00:10:43,521 Speaker 2: never spoken about this like it's cool publicly because. 250 00:10:43,281 --> 00:10:45,241 Speaker 1: I reckon there be so many women that have never 251 00:10:45,281 --> 00:10:48,241 Speaker 1: had an orgasm. Or we had someone writing remember and 252 00:10:48,281 --> 00:10:50,121 Speaker 1: they had never self pleasure until the age of like 253 00:10:50,161 --> 00:10:52,321 Speaker 1: forty three, and we were like, what do you mean this? 254 00:10:52,361 --> 00:10:55,121 Speaker 1: There's so much sexual shame. So is there anything else 255 00:10:55,161 --> 00:10:56,641 Speaker 1: that helped you along the way? Like, I know you 256 00:10:56,761 --> 00:10:58,361 Speaker 1: just said there's a lot of self talk. Was there 257 00:10:58,361 --> 00:11:01,561 Speaker 1: anything else that helps your body relax and get in 258 00:11:01,561 --> 00:11:04,121 Speaker 1: the mood and actually lay yourself to get there and 259 00:11:04,161 --> 00:11:05,561 Speaker 1: fully enjoy it with zero shame? 260 00:11:05,641 --> 00:11:06,801 Speaker 3: Was there any of the tools you use? 261 00:11:06,961 --> 00:11:09,121 Speaker 2: I think the nervous system is a huge one for this, 262 00:11:09,281 --> 00:11:12,881 Speaker 2: only because the way that you go into self pleasure 263 00:11:13,001 --> 00:11:15,721 Speaker 2: or even intimacy with a partner is going to set 264 00:11:15,761 --> 00:11:17,601 Speaker 2: the tone for the rest of the time. So if 265 00:11:17,641 --> 00:11:20,241 Speaker 2: you come in and you're overstimulated and you're overwhelmed, like 266 00:11:20,241 --> 00:11:21,801 Speaker 2: you're only going to stay stuck in your head, You're 267 00:11:21,841 --> 00:11:24,481 Speaker 2: not really going to enjoy yourself fully. So for me, 268 00:11:24,721 --> 00:11:27,961 Speaker 2: it was about setting the intention the tone beforehand. So 269 00:11:28,001 --> 00:11:29,441 Speaker 2: like what I mentioned, I would either put on a 270 00:11:29,481 --> 00:11:31,041 Speaker 2: playlist and I would sit in my room and I 271 00:11:31,081 --> 00:11:34,441 Speaker 2: would like move my body. Yeah, put on lingerie for myself, 272 00:11:34,961 --> 00:11:36,441 Speaker 2: even do like a bit of mirror work where I 273 00:11:36,481 --> 00:11:39,121 Speaker 2: would like stare at myself naked or like literally, this 274 00:11:39,161 --> 00:11:40,801 Speaker 2: is gonna seem so visual. It's going to create a 275 00:11:40,881 --> 00:11:43,601 Speaker 2: visual image in your head. But looking into the mirror 276 00:11:43,641 --> 00:11:45,121 Speaker 2: or like sitting in front of the mirror with your 277 00:11:45,201 --> 00:11:48,081 Speaker 2: legs apart. Yeah, and like actually looking at yourself naked. 278 00:11:48,361 --> 00:11:49,761 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of them can find that confronting. 279 00:11:50,321 --> 00:11:52,961 Speaker 2: It can be quite confronting, but it's a really beautiful 280 00:11:52,961 --> 00:11:55,721 Speaker 2: practice like way to really build self love. And so 281 00:11:55,721 --> 00:11:58,161 Speaker 2: through doing things like that and also taking time with 282 00:11:58,241 --> 00:12:01,961 Speaker 2: my body, I found I would use coconut oil. 283 00:12:02,121 --> 00:12:02,801 Speaker 3: I was thinking at. 284 00:12:02,721 --> 00:12:08,081 Speaker 2: The time of the Airbnb Oh yes, aha, Okay, side note, 285 00:12:08,201 --> 00:12:11,161 Speaker 2: I went to an AIRBMB stayk by myself and I 286 00:12:11,201 --> 00:12:14,521 Speaker 2: like love coconut oil, right, And I just like when 287 00:12:14,561 --> 00:12:16,601 Speaker 2: I go to like self pleasure, like sometimes I'll like 288 00:12:16,641 --> 00:12:19,121 Speaker 2: rub coroconut oil all over my body, and I had 289 00:12:19,121 --> 00:12:21,441 Speaker 2: to buy new sheets for the plon got stuck on 290 00:12:21,481 --> 00:12:24,001 Speaker 2: the show because the oil stained the sheets at the Airbnb, 291 00:12:24,161 --> 00:12:26,361 Speaker 2: and they were like, I don't know what's happened here, 292 00:12:26,481 --> 00:12:28,001 Speaker 2: but the sheets are really bad. 293 00:12:28,201 --> 00:12:30,041 Speaker 3: You're like, I just use it as a moistress. 294 00:12:30,121 --> 00:12:32,961 Speaker 2: I did say that, and I technically do, but there 295 00:12:32,961 --> 00:12:36,001 Speaker 2: are other intentions for it anyway. 296 00:12:36,441 --> 00:12:37,001 Speaker 3: So funny. 297 00:12:37,201 --> 00:12:39,361 Speaker 2: So, I'm a very physical touch kind of person, and 298 00:12:39,401 --> 00:12:41,881 Speaker 2: I never used to get physical touch unless a partner 299 00:12:41,921 --> 00:12:44,121 Speaker 2: was touching me or holding me or whatever. And so 300 00:12:44,161 --> 00:12:46,601 Speaker 2: I learned how to just you know, run my fingers 301 00:12:46,601 --> 00:12:48,801 Speaker 2: across like my shoulder, or down and up my arm, 302 00:12:49,081 --> 00:12:50,601 Speaker 2: or like I'd put my legs up and I'd like 303 00:12:50,681 --> 00:12:53,321 Speaker 2: tickle like the underside of my legs. And then I 304 00:12:53,361 --> 00:12:56,721 Speaker 2: would slowly start to like breathe as I would do that, 305 00:12:57,161 --> 00:12:59,761 Speaker 2: and I found that my nervous system would calm down, 306 00:13:00,081 --> 00:13:02,481 Speaker 2: I would regulate, I would start to get more into 307 00:13:02,561 --> 00:13:05,241 Speaker 2: my feeling space as opposed to being in my head 308 00:13:05,281 --> 00:13:07,921 Speaker 2: and really thinking about what I was doing. Yeah, I 309 00:13:07,961 --> 00:13:10,721 Speaker 2: was actually feeling, and so touching my body like that 310 00:13:10,761 --> 00:13:13,921 Speaker 2: in a really gentle way allowed me to anchor into 311 00:13:13,961 --> 00:13:16,641 Speaker 2: the feeling tickles on my leg. Oh, like the way 312 00:13:16,641 --> 00:13:18,881 Speaker 2: that feels on my neck and allows you to really 313 00:13:18,921 --> 00:13:22,361 Speaker 2: anchor in. That was really powerful for me. And then 314 00:13:22,481 --> 00:13:24,761 Speaker 2: every time I felt like I was limiting myself or 315 00:13:24,761 --> 00:13:26,881 Speaker 2: feeling like I'm getting to that point of an orgasm 316 00:13:26,921 --> 00:13:29,561 Speaker 2: and I try to stop myself, it would just be like, 317 00:13:29,841 --> 00:13:32,521 Speaker 2: how can I surrender one percent more? Yeah, just surrender 318 00:13:32,561 --> 00:13:34,561 Speaker 2: one percent more. You don't even need to orgasm. You 319 00:13:34,561 --> 00:13:36,081 Speaker 2: don't need to get to that point. We're not trying 320 00:13:36,081 --> 00:13:39,801 Speaker 2: to get to an outcome. This is purely for pleasure. 321 00:13:39,441 --> 00:13:41,681 Speaker 3: Based during the experience into a experience. 322 00:13:41,761 --> 00:13:44,641 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it became about, because five years, ten 323 00:13:44,761 --> 00:13:47,081 Speaker 2: years ago, it was about how quickly can I get 324 00:13:47,081 --> 00:13:49,121 Speaker 2: to an orgasm? How hard and fast can I get that? 325 00:13:49,601 --> 00:13:52,001 Speaker 2: But it's not about that, So like the lead up 326 00:13:52,121 --> 00:13:54,441 Speaker 2: is more important because that's going to get you to 327 00:13:54,481 --> 00:13:55,081 Speaker 2: an orgasm. 328 00:13:55,201 --> 00:13:57,481 Speaker 1: And the longer the lead up, I believed, the better 329 00:13:57,481 --> 00:13:59,521 Speaker 1: your orgasm. Oh my god, i'n't want us the other 330 00:13:59,481 --> 00:14:01,801 Speaker 1: the day. How I just I don't like vibrators anymore. 331 00:14:01,841 --> 00:14:03,401 Speaker 1: I'm like years ago I used to. Now I'm like, 332 00:14:03,401 --> 00:14:05,841 Speaker 1: it's just over so quick. It's not I don't know 333 00:14:06,001 --> 00:14:09,081 Speaker 1: just feel so disconnecting. I really rather take the time 334 00:14:09,121 --> 00:14:11,361 Speaker 1: with Steve or with myself, and that lead up is 335 00:14:11,961 --> 00:14:14,281 Speaker 1: so enjoyable. You can make it so enjoyable. 336 00:14:14,321 --> 00:14:16,401 Speaker 2: We had this conversation and I remember saying to you, babe, 337 00:14:16,401 --> 00:14:20,361 Speaker 2: by banning myself from a vibrator, yeah, it desensitizes me. Yeah, 338 00:14:20,481 --> 00:14:22,681 Speaker 2: and then I find if I use my vibrator when 339 00:14:22,681 --> 00:14:24,961 Speaker 2: I'm single, and then I get into a relationship, it 340 00:14:25,001 --> 00:14:27,481 Speaker 2: takes double the amount of work to get me there, 341 00:14:27,521 --> 00:14:29,801 Speaker 2: and then I start getting frustrated. Yeah, because I've set 342 00:14:29,801 --> 00:14:32,161 Speaker 2: this expectation in my head that it should be quick, 343 00:14:32,641 --> 00:14:35,481 Speaker 2: but like women's bodies aren't quick. Takes twenty to forty 344 00:14:35,481 --> 00:14:37,961 Speaker 2: five minutes. Yes, you'd actually orgasm, is that right? 345 00:14:38,041 --> 00:14:41,241 Speaker 1: Would just really be fully soft and open. We're ready 346 00:14:41,281 --> 00:14:41,841 Speaker 1: to enjoy it. 347 00:14:42,041 --> 00:14:44,041 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. We had a really cool episode with a 348 00:14:44,081 --> 00:14:46,721 Speaker 2: sexologist Lily at the beginning of the year. She go 349 00:14:46,801 --> 00:14:48,001 Speaker 2: listen to that. It's very powerful. 350 00:14:48,081 --> 00:14:50,401 Speaker 1: I remember when Steve and I did a relationship course 351 00:14:50,401 --> 00:14:53,401 Speaker 1: with Tony Robbins years ago and they had a sex 352 00:14:53,441 --> 00:14:56,401 Speaker 1: ologist on stage and he said, like, yeah, same thing. 353 00:14:56,441 --> 00:14:59,041 Speaker 1: Twenty to forty minutes. You should be just purely touching 354 00:14:59,041 --> 00:15:02,681 Speaker 1: your woman that's massaging, taking her hair out, kissing her, 355 00:15:02,761 --> 00:15:06,761 Speaker 1: tickling her back, massaging her before you even touch her vagina. Yes, 356 00:15:06,801 --> 00:15:09,241 Speaker 1: and like he's like, guarantee you do that. You have 357 00:15:09,401 --> 00:15:14,561 Speaker 1: a fully soft, open, wet, ready excited, horny wife. Very true, 358 00:15:14,561 --> 00:15:16,841 Speaker 1: and your sexual experience will change forever. 359 00:15:17,241 --> 00:15:19,601 Speaker 2: The anticipation and the lead up. I find it is 360 00:15:19,601 --> 00:15:20,481 Speaker 2: such a powerful thing. 361 00:15:20,601 --> 00:15:20,961 Speaker 3: Definitely. 362 00:15:21,041 --> 00:15:23,601 Speaker 2: So if you find that you're struggling to orgasm, you 363 00:15:23,641 --> 00:15:27,801 Speaker 2: feel scared, nervous, or even going fast, like it's more 364 00:15:27,921 --> 00:15:31,121 Speaker 2: rough sex. If that feels like overwhelming for your nervous system, 365 00:15:31,241 --> 00:15:34,281 Speaker 2: slow it down, Like if you have a partner, ask 366 00:15:34,321 --> 00:15:36,761 Speaker 2: your partner to try all this with you and to 367 00:15:36,841 --> 00:15:40,041 Speaker 2: explore something new where you're taking as much time as 368 00:15:40,081 --> 00:15:43,561 Speaker 2: you need to witness how your body gets worked up. Yea, 369 00:15:43,561 --> 00:15:44,921 Speaker 2: because when you start to see that, you'd be like, 370 00:15:44,961 --> 00:15:47,201 Speaker 2: oh wow, I actually need more of that. And then 371 00:15:47,241 --> 00:15:49,281 Speaker 2: also if you're single, I'm sure you could ask if 372 00:15:49,361 --> 00:15:52,281 Speaker 2: you're sexually involved with anybody, you'd be able to do 373 00:15:52,321 --> 00:15:54,481 Speaker 2: this process too, or just by yourself. 374 00:15:54,801 --> 00:15:57,641 Speaker 1: Edging edging, Oh, edging so hot. 375 00:15:57,761 --> 00:15:58,481 Speaker 2: Edging is very good. 376 00:15:58,521 --> 00:15:59,281 Speaker 3: You haven't heard of it. 377 00:15:59,281 --> 00:16:01,601 Speaker 1: It's just like getting yourself to the near point of 378 00:16:01,721 --> 00:16:04,041 Speaker 1: orgasm and then pulling it back. And you can do 379 00:16:04,121 --> 00:16:08,801 Speaker 1: this in just in sex and still reach orgasm, or 380 00:16:08,961 --> 00:16:10,881 Speaker 1: Steve and I sometimes do it. We're like last time 381 00:16:10,881 --> 00:16:13,081 Speaker 1: we went to Sydney, we edged like the whole day 382 00:16:13,121 --> 00:16:15,481 Speaker 1: but wouldn't allow ourselves to actually have sex. Oh, so 383 00:16:15,561 --> 00:16:17,601 Speaker 1: by time we had sex, it was just so much 384 00:16:17,641 --> 00:16:19,921 Speaker 1: more intense, really, and the whole day was just so 385 00:16:20,041 --> 00:16:22,641 Speaker 1: exciting and like we're just so sensitive and excited and 386 00:16:22,681 --> 00:16:26,321 Speaker 1: just in this really sexual, fun, playful energy. But at 387 00:16:26,361 --> 00:16:28,681 Speaker 1: home once again, it's harder with kids when you've got 388 00:16:28,681 --> 00:16:30,201 Speaker 1: that time and space like all day for it to 389 00:16:30,241 --> 00:16:31,001 Speaker 1: be rolled around that. 390 00:16:31,241 --> 00:16:33,361 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so fun. It's so fun too because when 391 00:16:33,361 --> 00:16:36,921 Speaker 2: you're in a headspace, you're really sensitive. Body is sensitive, 392 00:16:37,041 --> 00:16:42,801 Speaker 2: so it's like even one little touch shivers. Try it. Yeah, 393 00:16:42,881 --> 00:16:44,401 Speaker 2: if you need to google it, you can google it. 394 00:16:45,801 --> 00:16:47,801 Speaker 1: But it's a really important conversation that we wanted to 395 00:16:47,841 --> 00:16:49,681 Speaker 1: bring in because you know, we have experienced that. We 396 00:16:49,681 --> 00:16:51,761 Speaker 1: were struggled to get there and if you're struggling. Another 397 00:16:51,801 --> 00:16:53,841 Speaker 1: thing too, is like the self pleasure thing. I think 398 00:16:53,961 --> 00:16:56,441 Speaker 1: is a really important aspect because if you don't know 399 00:16:56,761 --> 00:16:59,041 Speaker 1: what feels good for your body. And that's just like 400 00:16:59,281 --> 00:17:02,401 Speaker 1: physically touching and your vagina or any area of your body. 401 00:17:02,441 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 1: If you don't know what feels good for you, how 402 00:17:04,401 --> 00:17:07,481 Speaker 1: does your partner? And I went to an event last year. 403 00:17:07,801 --> 00:17:10,801 Speaker 1: There's maybe thirty women there and she had someone coming 404 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: to talk about sex and self pleasure, and she asked 405 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,921 Speaker 1: her as a self pleasure practice, I was the only 406 00:17:15,961 --> 00:17:18,481 Speaker 1: person put my hand up. Some of the women like, never, 407 00:17:18,521 --> 00:17:19,561 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I've never done that. 408 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,321 Speaker 3: What does that look like? 409 00:17:20,481 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 2: I do that? Yeah. 410 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,881 Speaker 1: It was like they were all so embarrassed even talk 411 00:17:23,921 --> 00:17:25,201 Speaker 1: about it. And I was like, Oh, I do this, 412 00:17:25,561 --> 00:17:27,561 Speaker 1: get the marry out and do this. And I was 413 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: just so free to talk about it because I've just 414 00:17:29,201 --> 00:17:32,441 Speaker 1: done that for years now. But doing that with myself 415 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,241 Speaker 1: really improved my intimacy with Steve because I just knew 416 00:17:36,281 --> 00:17:37,841 Speaker 1: my body so well and I knew how to get 417 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,961 Speaker 1: myself soft and ready and excited, and that just helps 418 00:17:41,001 --> 00:17:43,561 Speaker 1: your relationship as well. But yeah, I think taking the 419 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,001 Speaker 1: pressure off reaching an orgasm too. I think a lot 420 00:17:46,041 --> 00:17:47,761 Speaker 1: of people just think, oh, to have sex, got to 421 00:17:47,801 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: reach there. I think if you get rid of that 422 00:17:49,801 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: first and just actually just enjoy the experience, with your 423 00:17:52,441 --> 00:17:54,921 Speaker 1: partner and connecting with them and taking it slow, you'll 424 00:17:54,921 --> 00:17:56,281 Speaker 1: find you get there a lot easier. 425 00:17:56,321 --> 00:17:56,761 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 426 00:17:56,801 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: With the opposite problem, you have to like hold back, No, 427 00:17:58,761 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: it's done, it over too quickly. Yeah, I was like, 428 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: no it stop, I'm not ready and I want to 429 00:18:03,481 --> 00:18:05,001 Speaker 1: get I want to enjoy this longer. 430 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:08,241 Speaker 2: Yes, totally. And when you are self pleasuring and you're 431 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:11,001 Speaker 2: starting this practice, there's going to be like a little 432 00:18:11,001 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 2: introm period where you feel a little weird about it. 433 00:18:13,241 --> 00:18:16,041 Speaker 2: That's so true, you know, like, let's just normalize it. 434 00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:19,201 Speaker 2: Feeling awkward, weird, You're feeling a bit like, ah, should 435 00:18:19,201 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: I be doing this? Or you might even have the 436 00:18:21,001 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: stories of like who has the time for this? This 437 00:18:24,001 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: is silly, this feels stupid. I should be doing my 438 00:18:26,561 --> 00:18:28,561 Speaker 2: to do list right now because let's face it, we 439 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:29,281 Speaker 2: all end up. 440 00:18:29,321 --> 00:18:30,561 Speaker 3: Or just wait my partner gets home. 441 00:18:30,721 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 2: Yes, why would I when my partner can do it 442 00:18:32,681 --> 00:18:35,481 Speaker 2: for me. But your relationship with yourself is based on 443 00:18:35,521 --> 00:18:39,201 Speaker 2: your relationship with yourself, and all of those limitations are 444 00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:43,081 Speaker 2: just resistance and likely based on fear of you actually 445 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,161 Speaker 2: connecting with your body because it doesn't feel safe yet. Yeah, 446 00:18:46,201 --> 00:18:48,321 Speaker 2: and think about what that might look like in a 447 00:18:48,360 --> 00:18:51,321 Speaker 2: couple months time when you actually get to a point 448 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: where you start to soften with yourself, and this can 449 00:18:53,481 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: happen really quickly. When you prioritize this the way that 450 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,321 Speaker 2: you learn to soften, you start to understand why it's 451 00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:03,961 Speaker 2: important to slow down. You also start to enjoy and 452 00:19:04,001 --> 00:19:07,521 Speaker 2: create pleasure yourself instead of always waiting for somebody else 453 00:19:07,561 --> 00:19:09,641 Speaker 2: to do it. Because I really was that woman who 454 00:19:09,681 --> 00:19:12,281 Speaker 2: was like, I'm not playing or self pleasuring and unless 455 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:15,961 Speaker 2: my partner's doing it, I didn't experience physical touch outside 456 00:19:16,001 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: of having a partner. Yeah, not even with myself. I'm like, 457 00:19:19,521 --> 00:19:21,041 Speaker 2: how can it be good with him if I don't 458 00:19:21,041 --> 00:19:23,441 Speaker 2: even have it good with myself? And I don't understand 459 00:19:23,441 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: what it feels like to be able to create that 460 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,441 Speaker 2: for myself, which is such a powerful way to really 461 00:19:27,481 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: tap into your feminine energy and that really beautiful like 462 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: life force energy that you have. Because when you can 463 00:19:33,961 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: create that of your own, you can then bring that 464 00:19:36,120 --> 00:19:38,721 Speaker 2: into the bedroom exactly. So you bring that like spicy 465 00:19:38,761 --> 00:19:40,681 Speaker 2: minx kind of energy to your partner. He's like, who 466 00:19:40,761 --> 00:19:42,041 Speaker 2: is this woman? Is this my partner? 467 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:45,041 Speaker 1: I love that there's this guy on social media that 468 00:19:45,201 --> 00:19:47,681 Speaker 1: Jake Guy. Oh, Jake Woodard is that his name? 469 00:19:47,801 --> 00:19:48,801 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jake Woodard. 470 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 3: Okay. 471 00:19:49,281 --> 00:19:51,201 Speaker 1: So I mean, if you're a bit prutish, or you're 472 00:19:51,201 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: closed minded, or your judgy, this is not the page 473 00:19:54,761 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: to follow. But I really enjoy his content. Look, I 474 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: don't agree with every single thing that he says, sometimes 475 00:20:00,761 --> 00:20:03,521 Speaker 1: like hmm, that could have been worded differently, or he's 476 00:20:03,681 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: very black and white. But some things he says, I'm like, Wow, 477 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,281 Speaker 1: he's willing to say the things that everyone else is 478 00:20:09,281 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: too scared to say, and he doesn't care what anyone thinks. 479 00:20:12,801 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: But a word that he's used lately is slutty, to 480 00:20:16,001 --> 00:20:18,881 Speaker 1: be slutty for your husband. And I found this so interesting. 481 00:20:18,961 --> 00:20:20,321 Speaker 1: I think a couple of years ago, if I was 482 00:20:20,321 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: to read this, I would have been really triggered. I 483 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:23,801 Speaker 1: would have been like, oh my gosh, I can't believe 484 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: he's telling women to be slutty for their husband. 485 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,481 Speaker 3: That's disgusting because I had a. 486 00:20:27,441 --> 00:20:29,561 Speaker 1: Story that slutty was bad and slutty was dirty, and 487 00:20:29,561 --> 00:20:32,801 Speaker 1: slutty was like just giving yourself away to everyone. But 488 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: he was saying that the more like sluttier woman it is, 489 00:20:35,721 --> 00:20:37,521 Speaker 1: the more in touch she is with herself and she's 490 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,961 Speaker 1: just freely expressing herself sexually with her partner. And when 491 00:20:41,001 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: women initiate is what he says. Women initiate sex with 492 00:20:43,921 --> 00:20:48,121 Speaker 1: their partner, they activate this like primal masculine, like oh, 493 00:20:48,201 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: like strength within their man that then activates them to 494 00:20:50,481 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: want to take care of you. So all these women 495 00:20:52,961 --> 00:20:54,481 Speaker 1: are in his DM saying, oh, I need my man 496 00:20:54,481 --> 00:20:56,441 Speaker 1: to step up. My men's lazy and da da da, 497 00:20:56,441 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: And that was his questions, like, are you being slutty 498 00:20:58,481 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: with your husband? Are you activating him? Are you giving 499 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: him a reason to want to come home to you? 500 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: Because when you are slutty with your man, it activates 501 00:21:06,441 --> 00:21:08,681 Speaker 1: them in them, and naturally they want to take care 502 00:21:08,721 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: of you. Yes, I think that makes so much sense. 503 00:21:10,961 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 3: It makes so much hate for this. Oh no, it 504 00:21:14,241 --> 00:21:14,761 Speaker 3: makes sense. 505 00:21:14,761 --> 00:21:18,321 Speaker 1: Bring it in reflecting now, since I am more quote 506 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:21,801 Speaker 1: unquote slutty and sexually embodied and just freer in the 507 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,481 Speaker 1: bedroom with Steep, it has brought us so much closer, 508 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: so much more sexual intimacy, so much more connected, so 509 00:21:27,961 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: much more fun. I feel alive, He feels more alive. 510 00:21:31,441 --> 00:21:33,481 Speaker 1: It is so true, But I just have never heard 511 00:21:33,521 --> 00:21:37,281 Speaker 1: anyone explain it like that and give women full permission 512 00:21:37,321 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: to bring out that inner slight energy and let it 513 00:21:39,961 --> 00:21:43,001 Speaker 1: be free and wild because we are we are true feminine, 514 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,961 Speaker 1: We are so wild. We're not contained in a box 515 00:21:46,001 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: to be a good girl. That is not natural for 516 00:21:48,481 --> 00:21:50,801 Speaker 1: a woman that's fully in touch with herself. 517 00:21:50,961 --> 00:21:51,201 Speaker 3: Yes. 518 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,761 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's so interesting too, because when a woman 519 00:21:53,961 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: is limited, even in the act of sex or the 520 00:21:56,761 --> 00:21:59,681 Speaker 2: act of intimacy, if she is in her head, she's 521 00:21:59,721 --> 00:22:02,801 Speaker 2: not fully there. She's performing, and feminine is present. Feminine 522 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 2: is present, Feminine is feeling. So if you're not and 523 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 2: you're getting lost in it that you don't even know 524 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,001 Speaker 2: what sounds you're making or like how your body is. Yeah, 525 00:22:10,001 --> 00:22:12,761 Speaker 2: because you're so in the moment you're living in your head, 526 00:22:12,761 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 2: you're not getting to the full extent of pleasure, to 527 00:22:14,961 --> 00:22:17,801 Speaker 2: what you can feel and experience. I love that he 528 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,521 Speaker 2: talks about it in that way, the slootiness, because this 529 00:22:20,561 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: is something I've been so open with you about with 530 00:22:22,481 --> 00:22:25,961 Speaker 2: my last relationship. I love putting on a show, yeah, 531 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,361 Speaker 2: and I love activating that like call it my seductress, yeah, 532 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,561 Speaker 2: because I love being in that seductress energy. When it's 533 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,401 Speaker 2: in a relationship, it's so much fun, and the men 534 00:22:34,481 --> 00:22:37,001 Speaker 2: love it, like coming home literally being naked on the floor. 535 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,321 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you know, it's just it's fun to 536 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: create that energy. And sometimes it feels edgy and it 537 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 2: feels scary, but it's also a really beautiful part of life. 538 00:22:47,801 --> 00:22:50,561 Speaker 2: And when you and your partner both able to create 539 00:22:50,561 --> 00:22:53,801 Speaker 2: a space or even just yourself first and foremost, to 540 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,121 Speaker 2: create a space where you don't have to judge yourself 541 00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:58,241 Speaker 2: for that, you're gonna have so much more fun. 542 00:22:58,681 --> 00:23:00,641 Speaker 1: And he was saying, too, I don't want to say 543 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: this wrong, so I feel like I'm gonna get so 544 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: much backlash. He's saying, too, that's like a reason why 545 00:23:04,681 --> 00:23:07,521 Speaker 1: a lot of men are so drawn to porn because 546 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,601 Speaker 1: even though it's like not real quote unquote, it's these 547 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: women that are so wild and alive and loud and 548 00:23:13,241 --> 00:23:16,001 Speaker 1: like in their bodies and it's like a fantasy world 549 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,081 Speaker 1: that if they don't get that at home, you can 550 00:23:18,120 --> 00:23:22,001 Speaker 1: see how they're drawn to that excitement. Whereas if a 551 00:23:22,041 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: man's partner is doing that, if a woman is doing 552 00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: that in her relationship, there's not as much reason to 553 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:31,321 Speaker 1: look elsewhere because naturally men are drawn to that, they're 554 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: visual they're visual creatures. I love reading his Q and 555 00:23:34,721 --> 00:23:36,561 Speaker 1: a's because like a couple of women saying, oh, my 556 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,601 Speaker 1: man is naturally more shy. I'm the one that initiates. 557 00:23:39,961 --> 00:23:42,121 Speaker 1: He's more Vanila in the bedroom, and he's like, there's 558 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: a little boy that's been shamed around sex. He claws 559 00:23:45,681 --> 00:23:48,601 Speaker 1: on that I'm shy, but he just hasn't been activated yet. 560 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,961 Speaker 1: And you can bring that by being your free self 561 00:23:50,961 --> 00:23:54,001 Speaker 1: and creating safety in his body and in that environment, 562 00:23:54,321 --> 00:23:56,161 Speaker 1: you watch him step up and you watch the man 563 00:23:56,241 --> 00:23:58,841 Speaker 1: come alive because a little boy is still there. That's like, oh, 564 00:23:58,921 --> 00:23:59,921 Speaker 1: and I've got to be like this. 565 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 2: Oh I like that. 566 00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:03,721 Speaker 1: But we have the power to activate that in our 567 00:24:03,761 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: men and bring them forward. The feminine expands the masculine. 568 00:24:08,241 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: We make everything bigger in such a beautiful way. But 569 00:24:11,281 --> 00:24:13,041 Speaker 1: we have to be our true selves. We have to 570 00:24:13,041 --> 00:24:17,761 Speaker 1: be so connected to our body, so regulated, calm, wild, free, 571 00:24:17,801 --> 00:24:19,841 Speaker 1: and bring all of that. And I just love it. 572 00:24:19,921 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: So if you looking for a new person to follow, 573 00:24:22,241 --> 00:24:24,521 Speaker 1: you definitely might feel activated or triggered by some of 574 00:24:24,521 --> 00:24:27,121 Speaker 1: the stuff he says. And also know that if you do, 575 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: there's something there for you. Because when I read that 576 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: word slutty. I could feel part of my body that 577 00:24:31,761 --> 00:24:35,521 Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, that's my old self reacting. Yeah, 578 00:24:35,521 --> 00:24:37,281 Speaker 1: I would have really reacted to that few years ago. 579 00:24:37,321 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 3: I just sat with it. 580 00:24:37,961 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, kept reading what he was meaning. I'm like, 581 00:24:40,281 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: I can see that, and I'm definitely slutty in the 582 00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: bedroom for study. 583 00:24:42,961 --> 00:24:45,321 Speaker 3: But I never would have worded it like that. 584 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,121 Speaker 2: Yes, and now it's like reclaiming the words so it's 585 00:24:48,241 --> 00:24:51,001 Speaker 2: not a negative thing into something exactly and playful and fun. 586 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: Yes, slutty could also mean just wild or free, and 587 00:24:54,801 --> 00:24:57,481 Speaker 1: you're right that state when you're making love or having 588 00:24:57,521 --> 00:25:00,761 Speaker 1: sex of being like almost an ecstasy where you can't 589 00:25:00,801 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: remember almost how you were. That means you're fully in 590 00:25:03,721 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: your body, You're fully in the experience, and that is 591 00:25:07,001 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: the best feeling in the world. It's incredible that you 592 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:11,681 Speaker 1: can do that with the person that you love. So amazing, 593 00:25:11,921 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: so fun, so fun. So we hope this episode is 594 00:25:15,201 --> 00:25:16,481 Speaker 1: just helped you to do It's a little bit of 595 00:25:16,481 --> 00:25:18,321 Speaker 1: a reflection of where you're out if you are struggling 596 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:20,841 Speaker 1: to get there and you're not really enjoying the experience 597 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: in your head. Like we have so many submissions that 598 00:25:22,681 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: come through, and so many mums listening, and I get it. 599 00:25:24,761 --> 00:25:27,561 Speaker 1: It's fucking hard with kids and you're tired and maybe 600 00:25:27,561 --> 00:25:29,761 Speaker 1: going through postpartum depression, or you don't feel confident in 601 00:25:29,801 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: your own body, or you're both busy working in stress. 602 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:33,281 Speaker 3: I get it. 603 00:25:33,281 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: But there's definitely little things that you can do each 604 00:25:35,441 --> 00:25:38,121 Speaker 1: day that helps you get back into your body, get 605 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: back in that green zone with your nervous system, and 606 00:25:40,321 --> 00:25:43,041 Speaker 1: just implement little things that can help you start to 607 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,281 Speaker 1: enjoy the experience again. 608 00:25:44,441 --> 00:25:47,761 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And if you want to bring out in a slutch, absolutely, 609 00:25:47,921 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: and I love her. And also if you want to 610 00:25:49,921 --> 00:25:53,481 Speaker 2: stop being so triggered all the time, just self pleasable. 611 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 3: I love it. 612 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: I like that you brought up the awkward stage though, 613 00:25:59,041 --> 00:26:00,761 Speaker 1: because I remember when I first started too of that. 614 00:26:01,521 --> 00:26:03,321 Speaker 1: And this is not even just self pleasure, but I 615 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,121 Speaker 1: remember when I wanted to start mirror work for when 616 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,041 Speaker 1: I was sad or depressed or grieving, actually staring at 617 00:26:10,041 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: myself in the mirror and watching myself cry because being 618 00:26:12,961 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: seen in that mess, being seen in that grief, I'm like, 619 00:26:15,961 --> 00:26:18,321 Speaker 1: if I'm going to hold especially when all this happened 620 00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:20,041 Speaker 1: with Megsie and Rambo like, if I'm going to be 621 00:26:20,041 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: able to hold her, I need to be able to 622 00:26:21,681 --> 00:26:24,521 Speaker 1: hold myself. And I was struggling to feel my own grief. 623 00:26:24,801 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: So I like sat in front of the mirror for 624 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,001 Speaker 1: months on end and just cry and fully like hug 625 00:26:30,041 --> 00:26:32,001 Speaker 1: myself and hold myself through that because I needed to 626 00:26:32,001 --> 00:26:33,321 Speaker 1: be able to do that to be able to hold her. 627 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,801 Speaker 1: So it can be done for like painful times and 628 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: then also pleasurable times. If you look in the mirror 629 00:26:38,441 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: and your legs are apart and you're disgusted, or you 630 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: like picking apart your body, sit there longer, stay, you 631 00:26:44,441 --> 00:26:47,361 Speaker 1: fucking stay. Do you abandon her? Yeap, Do not walk 632 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: away from her. You sit there and you find the beauty. 633 00:26:50,201 --> 00:26:53,801 Speaker 1: And it's that transition of like body hate to body 634 00:26:53,801 --> 00:26:56,041 Speaker 1: acceptance to body love. You're not going to open your 635 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: legs and look at yourself and go, oh. 636 00:26:57,521 --> 00:26:58,481 Speaker 2: My god, I love her. 637 00:26:58,521 --> 00:27:00,881 Speaker 3: She's amazing, gorgeous, pussy, you look amazing. 638 00:27:01,921 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: You will find challenging to jump from. 639 00:27:03,921 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: Very but just sit there, stay with it. Every single week, 640 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,721 Speaker 1: just carve out a little bit of times just sit 641 00:27:08,761 --> 00:27:11,521 Speaker 1: there and be with her, be with you, Yeah, because 642 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,441 Speaker 1: that's the journey. 643 00:27:12,921 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: And if you're on this journey where you're like kind 644 00:27:14,761 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 2: of past this point and you're exploring self pleasure. I 645 00:27:18,201 --> 00:27:22,321 Speaker 2: would challenge you and encourage you to start using the 646 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,001 Speaker 2: mirror as a way to like increase your pleasure. So 647 00:27:25,001 --> 00:27:27,761 Speaker 2: when you're by yourself, like watching yourself. 648 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 3: It's hard self pleasure. 649 00:27:28,721 --> 00:27:31,161 Speaker 2: It's so hot. Yeah, for me, it's like a big thing. 650 00:27:31,201 --> 00:27:32,921 Speaker 2: For me. I love looking in the mirror, like whether 651 00:27:32,961 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: I'm with a partner or by myself so hot. I 652 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,961 Speaker 2: don't know why, just I'm maybe because I'm a visual person. 653 00:27:37,001 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 3: I love it. 654 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 2: So I'm just like I'm so into that. Yeah, you know, 655 00:27:40,321 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 2: and it'd be like just me, I love it, Like get. 656 00:27:42,961 --> 00:27:44,761 Speaker 1: A girl, you've got nice big mirrors on your watch. 657 00:27:45,281 --> 00:27:46,441 Speaker 1: It's like Eve and I. 658 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:50,761 Speaker 3: Move it all right, He's like they're over here. 659 00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 2: Honestly though, I feel like for me, at least, the 660 00:27:53,561 --> 00:27:56,041 Speaker 2: visual side of things helps me get out of my head. 661 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 2: And I can be someone who's prone to be in 662 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,041 Speaker 2: my head a lot. I'm a big thinker, always over 663 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,561 Speaker 2: analyzing the Gemini and me has always got Devil's Advocate 664 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,641 Speaker 2: going in my head. So for me, the visual aspect, 665 00:28:05,721 --> 00:28:10,081 Speaker 2: the physical aspect, the audible, like hearing, aspect of music. 666 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 2: All of those things compound to me being able to 667 00:28:12,961 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: fully let go in that moment. And again it's a practice. 668 00:28:16,201 --> 00:28:18,361 Speaker 2: What you're learning to do in practicing by doing this 669 00:28:18,681 --> 00:28:21,641 Speaker 2: is by letting go one percent more, so that the 670 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,801 Speaker 2: next time that you self pleasure, the next time that 671 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 2: you experience intimacy with a partner, you're just letting go 672 00:28:26,721 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 2: one percent more. Yeah, that's it. You don't have to 673 00:28:28,921 --> 00:28:31,041 Speaker 2: put pressure on yourself. You're not getting to an outcome. 674 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,321 Speaker 2: You don't need to let go quote unquote all the way. No, 675 00:28:34,521 --> 00:28:37,481 Speaker 2: it's letting go one percent more. That's it. Have fun 676 00:28:37,521 --> 00:28:39,241 Speaker 2: with it. You get to have fun with it. It doesn't 677 00:28:39,281 --> 00:28:40,921 Speaker 2: have to be this big, heart heavy thing anymore. 678 00:28:41,041 --> 00:28:43,401 Speaker 1: No way, If this is something that you want to 679 00:28:43,481 --> 00:28:46,641 Speaker 1: learn more about, we have sold out of our Bar 680 00:28:46,721 --> 00:28:49,481 Speaker 1: and Bay Retreat for the overnight passes, the sleepover passes, 681 00:28:49,681 --> 00:28:52,041 Speaker 1: but we do have seven day passes available and we 682 00:28:52,121 --> 00:28:54,441 Speaker 1: have beautiful Megsic companies to talk about this, we do. 683 00:28:54,561 --> 00:28:58,041 Speaker 1: She's doing a full workshop, Yeah, all about self pleasure, 684 00:28:58,121 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: connecting back to your body. How pleasure is such an 685 00:29:01,761 --> 00:29:04,161 Speaker 1: important thing for all areas of your life. So she 686 00:29:04,281 --> 00:29:06,641 Speaker 1: is coming down to talk about that. She's the expert 687 00:29:06,721 --> 00:29:09,121 Speaker 1: in this. She has been my inspiration for this for 688 00:29:09,441 --> 00:29:12,521 Speaker 1: many and many years. She's so embodied, even through all 689 00:29:12,521 --> 00:29:14,481 Speaker 1: of her grief, through all of her hard times throughout 690 00:29:14,521 --> 00:29:16,841 Speaker 1: her life, she will always come back to pleasure and 691 00:29:16,881 --> 00:29:19,961 Speaker 1: it's so beautiful. Yeah, and she's so connected with her partner, 692 00:29:20,001 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: and I can imagine they have the most incredible sex live. 693 00:29:23,001 --> 00:29:25,481 Speaker 1: They're super connected and just so in love. And it's 694 00:29:25,481 --> 00:29:28,001 Speaker 1: because she's so embodied in it. There's no one else 695 00:29:28,041 --> 00:29:30,361 Speaker 1: that I would pick to choose this more than what. 696 00:29:30,321 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 3: I would choose to be so excited for that. 697 00:29:32,361 --> 00:29:34,561 Speaker 1: So if you're interested, you could come along to our 698 00:29:34,561 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: retreat for the day pass. We'll lead the link in 699 00:29:36,201 --> 00:29:37,881 Speaker 1: the show notes. Otherwise, just send us a message on 700 00:29:37,881 --> 00:29:40,081 Speaker 1: Instagram and can send you all the information. But she 701 00:29:40,241 --> 00:29:42,321 Speaker 1: is one of our incredible guest speakers that you guys 702 00:29:42,321 --> 00:29:45,921 Speaker 1: get the pleasure of being involved with learning from. Yeah, yeah, 703 00:29:45,961 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: all right. 704 00:29:46,321 --> 00:29:48,481 Speaker 3: We'll see that. Thanks guys, Bye bye