1 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fear and Greed business news you can use today. 2 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: The head of the International Energy Agency warns that the 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: oil lost in the current crisis in the Middle East 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: is twice the amount of the nineteen seventies oil shock. 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: The local share market flirts with correction, Territory having lost three. 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: Hundred billion dollars in value since the beginning of the 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: Middle East conflict, and luxury car maker's dump plans for 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: ev expansion, plus ABC staff set to go on strike, 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 2: and the toilet paper shortage crisis of covid as back 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: at least in Japan. 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: A bit worrying, isn't it? Sean. It is Tuesday, the 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: twenty fourth of March twenty twenty six. I'm Michael Thompson 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: and good morning Sean. Aylmer. 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 3: Good morning, Michael. 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: The main story this morning, Sean, the head of the 16 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: International Energy Agency said that the amount of oil lost 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: from global supplies in the current crisis is already double 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: lat of the oil crisis of the nineteen in seventies. 19 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: Speaking at the National Press Club in Canberry yesterday, he 20 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: also said that the quantity of gas constricted by the 21 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: war in Iran is almost double the amount lost from 22 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Doctor Fatty Burrel said Asia is 23 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: at the forefront of the energy crisis and his current 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: assessment of the situation is quote very severe. He said 25 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: the depth of the problem was not well appreciated by 26 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: the decision makers around the world, which is actually pretty concerning. 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, his comments highlight how much oil in terms 28 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: of volume is being stranded, though in terms of price, 29 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 3: the rise in Brent is far below what happened in 30 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 3: the nineteen seventies. Also, other energy sources think renewables means 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: that the current crisis has had a more muted effect. 32 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: Doctor Burrell said if needed, the IA members could release 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: further fuel stockpiles of reserved fuel to help calm the 34 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: oil market. He also promoted work from home and speed 35 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: restrict to help reduce the use of energy, though did 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: say that's up to the Prime Minister to decide. 37 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: That wasn't well received by business leaders. I saw Bran Black, 38 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: the head of the Business Council of Australia, suggesting no, no, no, no, 39 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: we should still be heading into the office, which is 40 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: what you would expect. And I think there is just 41 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: a general wariness of imposing any new restrictions on movement, right. 42 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I also think the work from home shift, 43 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 3: which was obviously a COVID thing, it went too far 44 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: and I'm sure business is concerned that it could happen again. Yeah. 45 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: Indeed, now, as part of the Federal government's efforts to 46 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: shore up those oil supplies, Prime Minister Anthony Aberenezi yesterday 47 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: issued a joint statement with the Leader of Singapore, Lawrence 48 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: Wong on fuel security, with the two countries committing to 49 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: open trade. Singapore supplies more than half of Australia's petrol 50 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: imports and fifteen percent of its diesel. It's also a 51 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: buyer of Australian liquefied natural gas. It follows a call 52 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: between PM Anthony Abenzi and that end is Singaporean counterpart. 53 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: Yesterday morning. 54 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 3: In a statement, the two leaders said, and I quote, 55 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: we are committed to working together to strengthen energy supply 56 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 3: chain resilience, including by deepening regional cooperation, accelerating renewable energy transition, 57 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: addressing unjustified inport and export restrictions, and maintaining open trade flows. 58 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 3: What I thought was really fascinating about that that was 59 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 3: a pre Trump style statement energy supply chain resilience, regional cooperation, 60 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: renewable energy, unjustified import and export restrictions. You don't actually 61 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: hear that very very often. Now. The statement with Singapore 62 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: calls another trading partners to ensure global energy supply chains 63 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: I kept open. Now. 64 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: All of this came on a day when the share 65 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: market was sold off very sharply, though perhaps not as 66 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: much as feared before. Trading saw on the S and 67 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: P ASX two hundred closed down zero point seven percent 68 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: to eighty three hundred and sixty six points. That is 69 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: the lowest close since May of last year, after dropping 70 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: as much as two percent earlier in the session. The 71 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: benchmark index almost fell into correction territory, which is defined 72 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 1: as being ten percent below its previous high. It's now 73 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: down nine point one percent from its March to peak. 74 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: That's worth about three hundred billion dollars. 75 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: A lot of money. Oil prices waived yesterday as Donald 76 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 3: Trump issued that forty eight hour ultimatum for Tehran to 77 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: open the Strait of Homas or face strikes on energy infrastructure. 78 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: We were talking about that yesterday morning. Iran warned any 79 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: attack would trigger the closure of the waterway and retaliation 80 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 3: against US, and is that Raeli acids spent cruds trading 81 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: around one hundred and thirty US dollars a barrel. There 82 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 3: are estimates that it could go much much higher. Yesterday 83 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 3: on the AX at least retailers lead gains. Eagers Automotive 84 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 3: jumped six percent. What's fascinating about that is you think, well, 85 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: surely the petrol crisis isn't good for Eagles Automotive, which 86 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:03,679 Speaker 3: has a bunch of well I reckon that ev demand 87 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 3: will accelerate as a result, good for Eager's Automotive minus 88 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 3: furl after Goald posted its biggest weekly drop in about 89 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: forty years. Rising energy prices damp and expectations for interest 90 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: rate cuts that worked against gold. The precious metals now 91 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: trading around four three seven five US dollars and ounce. 92 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: All right sean quick break back in a moment with 93 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: the rest of the day's business news. Sewan staff at 94 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: the ABC have voted to go on strike for the 95 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: first time in twenty years, at a set to walk 96 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: off the job at eleven am tomorrow. The escalation came 97 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: after the majority of staff voted against a new enterprise 98 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: agreement proposed by management. 99 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: The agreement, which governs twenty twenty five through to twenty 100 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 3: twenty eight, includes annual wage increases of three point five 101 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: percent year one, then three point twenty five three point 102 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 3: twenty five. The unions have asked for a five point 103 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 3: five percent pay rise. The ABC will now apply to 104 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 3: Fair Work Commission to appoint a media to resolve the dispute. 105 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,679 Speaker 3: It is protected action, so they can they are allowed 106 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 3: to go on strike. Of course, they won't get paid. 107 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: The Media, Entertainment and Arts Alliance the union involves at 108 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: almost one thousand a c staff had voted in a 109 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: poll on whether to go on strike. More than ninety 110 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: percent voted in favor. ABC's boss, Hugh Marx Did had 111 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: announced a one thousand dollars cash bonus a couple of 112 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 3: weeks ago at a town hall meeting. He'd hoped that 113 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: would convince staff to back the enterprise agreement. Clearly it 114 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: didn't work. 115 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: Is there still a chance that it could be avoided? 116 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you've been in kind of situations like this 117 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: where you've been leading and negotiating, haven't you with unions 118 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: and when you were in your newspaper days kind of 119 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: is anything a done deal until it's actually underway. 120 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 3: It's never a done deal until it's done. There you go. 121 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: But in this instant unless the ABC comeback with something concrete. 122 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 3: So they came back said okay, we'll go to four percent. 123 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 3: Then the union of course would say, well let's consider that. 124 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: But it's really up to ABC management otherwise. I reckon, 125 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: we'll have a strike tomorrow. 126 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: Okay, hecky. 127 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: Now. 128 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: A federal court judge Sean has criticized lawyers for Coals 129 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: and Woolies in their fight over a billion dollar underpayment claim, 130 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: saying the case has gone off the rails due to 131 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: their excessive written submissions. Justice Nyperum told legal representatives of 132 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: Coles Wilworth and the Fair Work on Botsman that he 133 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: was very disappointed over their failure to agree on issues 134 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: and for lodging two and a half thousand pages of 135 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: submissions that he considered a waste of his time. I 136 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: reckon he might have a point. 137 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,559 Speaker 3: How dairy two and a half thousand pages every word 138 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: of Jim, I'm sure. The almost seven year long case 139 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: brought by the Fair Work Combardsman and class action law 140 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: firm a d o ad Er says overtime for salaried 141 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: staff and is expected result in close Toway one billion 142 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: dollar hit to the supermarket giants. They've already paid out 143 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: five hundred million dollars, expect another billion. No wonder they're 144 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: delaying the case. This is all according to the finn Review. 145 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 3: The range of issues still in contest, outlined in a 146 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: hearing last week, suggest the case still has several years 147 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: to go. The Federal Court judge Perham accus lawyers on 148 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: all sides of wasting taxpayer funded resources. I quote him, 149 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 3: I think it's fair to say things have got off 150 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 3: the rails in this case. 151 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 152 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 3: Maybe. 153 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: Turning to international news now seen, a Cuban officials official 154 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: has said that the country is preparing for a possible 155 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: military assault as President Donald Trump increases economic pressure on 156 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: the government in Havana and suggests that it could be 157 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: the next US target after Venezuela and Iran. Our military 158 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: is always prepared, as the quote from Deputy Foreign Minister 159 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: Carlos Fernandez dez Co Costo that was in an interview 160 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: on NBC's Meet the Press. He then went on to 161 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: say that we would be naive if looking at what's 162 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: happening around the world, we would not do that, but 163 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: we truly hope that it doesn't occur. 164 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 3: Deccio declined to specify the military preparations, according to Bloomberg, 165 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 3: but his comments are very much in line with Cuba's 166 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: defiance stance. As Trump and Secretary of State Marco Rubio 167 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: ratchet up rhetoric or rhetoric against the communist run leadership. 168 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 3: US sanctions aimed at Cuba's economy have tightened under Trump. 169 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: They now include a de facto fuel blockade, leaving the 170 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: island squeezed of energy sources, supplies, and funding. A nationwide 171 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: blackout hit Cuba last week, for example, at least the 172 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 3: sixth within about a year. 173 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: Sean, how about this one? At least twelve global car 174 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: makers scaling back their electric vehicle plans amid ongoing demand 175 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: for combustion engines and a rollback of supportive policies in 176 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: both the US and Europe. Last week, Honda abandoned its 177 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: plan to stop making combustion engine cars by twenty forty 178 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: and forecast sixteen billion dollars in losses over the next 179 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: two years from its EV strategy overhaul. Then you got Mercedes, 180 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: benz Ford, Stilantis, and Volvo Cars have also cut their 181 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: all electric targets. Among luxury brands, BMW owned Rolls Royce 182 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: is now the latest to change course, announcing this week 183 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: that it would continue making petrol engine vehicles beyond twenty thirty. 184 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: They are all joining in. 185 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah sure. Bentley, Lotus, Audi, Porsche have already scaled back 186 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 3: plans to go fully or eighty percent electric over the 187 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: next decade. Many are choosing to extend the availability of 188 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 3: plug in hybrid cars and their lineups. According to the FT, 189 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 3: Volkswagen owned Lamborghini also recently abandoned its plan to launch 190 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 3: its first fully electric car. The Lansadore was really great 191 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 3: name for a car, the Lamborghini Landsador that was supposed 192 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 3: to be up by twenty thirty. The model will be 193 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: a plug in hybrid instead. Ferrari last year her did 194 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 3: it's twenty thirty EV production target, but he's pressing ahead 195 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 3: with its first electric model, saying it aims to find 196 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 3: the same driving thrill whether the car's petrol hybrid or 197 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: battery powered. FT The Financial Times has calculated the changes 198 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: to EV strategies, including canceled car launches and investment plans, 199 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 3: have cost the global car industry at least seventy five 200 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 3: billion dollars US in the past year. Extraordinary. 201 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: Well that is huge now we mentioned this at the 202 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: top of the show. Sean Japan's government has urged citizens 203 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: not to panic buy toilet paper, as social media posts 204 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: suggests people starting to stockpile daily necessities out of concern 205 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: over the war in the Middle East. 206 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 3: We need to discuss this, but let's get the facts 207 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: out there first. So hoarding toilet paper became a phenomenon 208 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 3: Japan back in nineteen seventy three. In that oil shock, 209 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: it triggered the country's first post war economic contraction. More recently, 210 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 3: the devastating earthquake and tsunami of twenty eleven the COVID 211 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: pandemic triggered similar behavior patterns. According to report on Bloomberg, 212 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 3: The Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry has now come 213 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: out in a statement says shoppers should make rational decisions 214 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 3: about toilet paper purchases based on accurate information. Add to that, 215 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: the japan Household Paper Industry Association Association said about ninety 216 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 3: seven percent of toilet paper is produced domestically using recycled 217 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: paper and pulp, i e. No reliance on the Middle 218 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: East at all. What is it about and it's not 219 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 3: just the Japanese, Australians, the whole world. When there's a panic, 220 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 3: When there's a panic, straight to the toilet paper. I 221 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: don't I don't get it. 222 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: I don't get it. I mean, I mean, look, if 223 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: you run out of toilet paper, there are so many 224 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 1: like you've got paper, towel in this order, paper towel, 225 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: printer paper. 226 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 3: And sorry tissues in front all that. 227 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then and then and leaves, depending on the 228 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: level of sheer desperation, Sean. But I think we are still. 229 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 3: In the world, isn't it, Michael. It's a funny world 230 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 3: we live in. 231 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: It certainly is we are some distance still from panic 232 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: buying toilet paper here in this country. I would hope. 233 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: Up next, Sean is fear and Greed Q and a 234 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: Damon Callahan from ECP Asset Management is your guest today. 235 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we talk about these SaaS apocalypse. Now if 236 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: you don't know what that is, it's all these soft 237 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 3: software as the service companies and whether or not they're 238 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 3: going to make it through the AI revolution. And Damon's 239 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: great to chat about it's about I mean, he names 240 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 3: one company in particular who has really been sold off 241 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: that he thinks is a particularly good investment at the moment, 242 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 3: on the back of the fact that people are too 243 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 3: worried that AI will kind of take the business models 244 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 3: of what he calls some really good companies, all right, just. 245 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: Coming up next in the Fear and Greed playlist. You 246 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: can find it at Fearangreed dot com dot a, which 247 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: is also where you signed up for the free daily newsletters. 248 00:13:58,559 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Sean. 249 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 3: Thank you. Hey, Michael. 250 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, the twenty fourth of March twenty twenty sixth. 251 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: Make sure you're following the podcast and join us online 252 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: on LinkedIn, Instagram and YouTube as well. 253 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 3: I'm Michael Thompson. 254 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: That was Fear and Greed. Have a great day.