1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,360 Speaker 1: Coming up on Relatables. 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 2: Recently, I snooped through his phone and found he still 3 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: has almost two hundred photos of her, including one nude. 4 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: She was dude. The Relatable podcast is hosted by myself, 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: Addie Clark ak Mummy, and my partner in crime, mister 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: Jake Craig ak Daddy. That's me. Can I take this? 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: Jake is daddy because he's like Sam Wise Gamsey. That's 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: that's an insult. You know, I don't like him. What 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: you told you. We have arguments about We've had arguments 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: about Samu Game. I think is so annoying. Oh he's 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: a great friend. 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: Like I understand, he's a great friend. I don't know, 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 2: he just like get some my nurvese bro. 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a good depiction of you. He's from the 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: but you love Sam Wise. I was gonna I was 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: trying to give you a compliment, but then you took 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: it the wrong way. And I also saying I also 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: think Proto is mad annoying. I think they're both annoying. 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe not us a couple of annoying dudes. Yeah, 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: I actually have a bone to pick with the baddies. 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: Oh shit, I thought it was gonna be me, be 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: me a lot later and all women out there, yeah, 23 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: bring me this man. It's with the Lord of the 24 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: Rings hate. I was listening to Sarah J. Mass's podcast 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: of Call Her Daddy, and to me, it seems like 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: she's based every single one of her books off lat 27 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: of the Rings. To be fair J J. J R. R. 28 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: Tolkien or J. R. R. 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: Tolkien, he's like, obviously one of the most famous fantasy 30 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: riders ever. Kind of I don't think he invented fantasy, 31 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 2: but like he made a bit. 32 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get. I think he did, at least I know. 33 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: I was listening to this and I was like everybody, 34 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: all the girls like I won't like my girlfriends, like 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: I want to watch a lot of the Rings. She's like, no, no, 36 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: I'll watch anything else. It's so good. Yeah. 37 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: Beth also hates I don't know what, she hates anything that. 38 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: So she loves an action movie, but like John Wick, 39 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: so it's like it's unrealistic, but it's like there's no 40 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: superpowers involved. Like she doesn't like superhero movies because like 41 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: it's just so utterly fake. 42 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love it. I get Akatar has some 43 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: sexy men. We love sexy men on this podcast re 44 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: sand Legoalless is in Lord of the Rings. He's a 45 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: sexy man. He's a great bloke, Orlando Blue. And then 46 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: what's the little Dwarf's name? Wait, you're talking about the 47 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: little redhead dwarf or some bad It's like shawt Kings. 48 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: Is that true? I don't think anybody likes I don't know. 49 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: I've been watching it a baddies, and I wanted to 50 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: get that off my chest because I was thinking about 51 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: the whole time. 52 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: And they're like they become heaps good friends, legaliss and freakin' 53 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 2: yeah yeah, because. 54 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: In the Hobbit, because Legalists is mad old. In the Hobbit, 55 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: this is so boring. In the Hobbit, Legalist meets this 56 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: guy's that's he's like, that's me. We lad he meets 57 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: the GHIMBLI. Yeah, Jake is daddy because he's Gimli what 58 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: And clearly I would be Legalless actually you know who 59 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: I am, mummy, because he finds absolutely anyone in Lord 60 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: of the Ring you are strata, You're not, you're anyway. Baddies, 61 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm hoping you got that joke, baddies, But if you 62 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: didn't go watch a lot of the rings. I wanted 63 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: to last start the podcast with how much are they 64 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: pay you? By the way, lord of the Rings, how 65 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: chhould they pay you? I wish they were paying me 66 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: because you're not worth it. Yeah, I wanted to start 67 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: the podcast with on this podcast, the baddies know that 68 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: I struggle a little bit with the English language, and 69 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: usually you're there to help me, but recently you've been 70 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: fucking digging me a hole and then pushing me into it. 71 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: And a baddie has corrected us on a couple of 72 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: terminologies we have been saying wrong, or words we've been 73 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: saying wrong. I mean, okay, we need that, and I 74 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: wanted the correction, and both times I've been right, and 75 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: then you take me on this rigamarole and then confuse 76 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: the funk out of me, and then I think I'm wrong. 77 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm pretty good at manipulating. So there we go. 78 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: Hey, I am listening to the most recent episode of 79 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 3: the podcast, and I wanted to put you both out 80 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 3: of your misery with how you say these words. And 81 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: the word is jeopardy. So Artie was right the first time, 82 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 3: but then he started saying it wrong. 83 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 4: But it's definitely Jeopardy if not Jeopardy Jake confused me and. 84 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 3: Not Jeff Pardy. 85 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: Definitely, it just felt like that was an idiot. 86 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: And also the word that Ottie said the other the 87 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 3: episode before that meant praise was commend, which definitely is right. 88 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: But then in this most recent episode, Jake was saying condemn, 89 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: which is not good. So if you condemn something, it's negative. 90 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: If you commend something, you're like clapping for them, praising them. Yeah, 91 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 3: I started breaking down. Yeah, so that's command and Jeff. 92 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: Thank you, Lucy. Jake's making me feel like absolutely idiot. 93 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: Usually you are to be fair. Hey, I'm trying to 94 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: uplift this podcast and bringing out. 95 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: So commend and condemned opposite meanings. Change them. Yeah, its different, 96 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: make the words much more different. And then the Jeopardy thing. 97 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: Like don't get me started. 98 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: Okay, the Jeopardy thing is like wigging me out, and 99 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: I'm like convinced it's a Mendela effect. 100 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: What's a Mandela effect? 101 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: So Mendela effect is the reason it's called a Mendela 102 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: effect at least is because a lot of people, so 103 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: Nelson Mendela is super famous and he was in prison 104 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: and a lot of people remember him dying in prison, 105 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: but then a lot of people also remember him coming 106 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: out and getting that out of prison and becoming like 107 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: the president or something like that of a country. Sorry, 108 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: not super versed in my Mendela South Africa, I believe, 109 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 2: Actually I'm not gonna say it with any confidence that 110 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: was anything. I gonna say that it could have been 111 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 2: one of them, because that's one of all the countries 112 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: in the world. And basically I'm pretty sure what ended 113 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: up happening was he actually did become president or he 114 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: actually did die in. 115 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: But they're like just the whole world's divided and I'm 116 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: remembering on. So it's called the Mandela effect. And like, 117 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: have you heard of a show called The Bandstein Bears. 118 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: Now it's an old cartoon and everyone thinks it's called 119 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: thinks it's called the Bandstein Bears. 120 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: It's actually called something different. It's a Mandela effect. Like 121 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 2: it's about waking up in different universes. 122 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: Or some shit. Tomato tomato pretty much. So this Nana banana, 123 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: this melpety milk, this Jeopardy thing is like I am 124 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: convinced that I have I must have woke up one 125 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: morning transported into a different universe where everything is the 126 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: same except for the fact that in my old universe, 127 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: Jeopardy was actually Jeep Ruddy and in my new universe 128 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: it's Jeopardy. I've been waiting for this moment. There's a 129 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: red pill man to my right. Why admit that you're wrong? This, yeah, man, 130 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: don't affect my old universe. Yeah. 131 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: Here's the thing, is like, so I am wrong, and like, 132 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: but I was like so shocked that I was, and 133 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm still like so confused. 134 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: I was like, it was like it's for some reason, 135 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: for something. I don't know why. I thought it was 136 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: Jeopardy and Jeopardy and then you just confuse me. So 137 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: moving forward, I think we should just assume that I'm 138 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: always right. Is that safe? Yeah? As safe as the 139 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: pull out method is. Okay? 140 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: Anyway, bad he is. We've got i g question of 141 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: the week. We're gonna rattle these ones off nice and quick. 142 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: Smart. It is key signs the date is over. Have 143 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: you ever been on a date quickly before you get 144 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: into it where you've wanted the date to be over? Yeah? 145 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: You went for ice cream, didn't you? No? What about 146 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: that girl? Come on? Even start? What do you mean, 147 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: what about that girl? Remersible? She was a woman. She 148 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: probably still is. I assume she's alive, So let's not 149 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: get it twisted. Okay, they're women, not girls on it. 150 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Do you know the one 151 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: I'm talking about? You went on one day we were 152 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: living together. She asked you out and you said yes, 153 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: and you respected it, but then you didn't connect. Oh 154 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: wait what Yeah, and you went and got as cream 155 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: and you came back and he said, no, I'm not 156 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: going on another one. Oh yes, I remember your I 157 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: remember that now, dang. I might have been on some 158 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: dates now I remember that. Yeah, Oh sorry, I remember. 159 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: That on that date. So no, I think I asked 160 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: her on the date. Okay, okay, I'm pretty confident I 161 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: asked her on the date. I'm pretty so you got 162 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: these You've got the right woman. 163 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: We went on a date. 164 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, basically went on a date anyway, Sorry, Beth, I've 165 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 2: never asked gonnother girl on a date. 166 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: She goes on a date with me, and I was like, cool, cool, cool, 167 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: took her on a classic crash room date. 168 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: Just stupid fucking guy back in the day didn't want 169 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: to just like have an actual date because I'm an idiot. 170 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: AnyWho. 171 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 2: She goes, yeah, I'm gonna go to Europe for two 172 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: months in like a month. As soon as she said that, 173 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 2: I was like, well, I was like, oh, I mean 174 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: mentally checked out, and I was just like oh, I 175 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: was like, that's obviously sick. But as soon as she 176 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: said that, I just looked at I was just like, Oh, 177 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: this is now. We're just like gonna hang out for 178 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: the evening, like I'm not going to fucking like. I 179 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: was in a mindset where I'm not going to lock 180 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: you down in any sort of relationship, and then you 181 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: go to Europe like you're open have fun. 182 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: I suppose that's actually a green flag mentality. 183 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, but I was just like, yeah, well, 184 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: I was like, oh sick first of all, and this 185 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: day's over. 186 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: To be fair, key signs the date's over. She tells 187 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: you she's going to Europe for two months in a month, 188 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: she had fun, don't have fun? Yeah anyway, Key signs 189 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: the data is over. You resort to talking about the weather. 190 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: To be fair, I like to start there really a 191 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: little bit, so the date was over before it started. No, 192 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: Like just like, oh, maybe I don't. Maybe I do, 193 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: but I feel like it's a good place to start. 194 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: And then the conversation starts to flow. How do you start? Hey, 195 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: how's it going? What do you say? This weather? Though? 196 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: Good day? In that got lucky anymore? In key signs 197 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: the date is over when the silence is loud. Oh yeah, 198 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: I've never had that luckily. 199 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't say I have, Like, I don't think 200 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: I've experienced too much awkward silence neither. Key signs of 201 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: date is over you both finish, wink wink. It's a 202 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: good date if you went that far and both finish. 203 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: Do you both make each other finish? 204 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: That's a dumb Key signs of data is over when 205 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: they take a deep breath and say, well, I had 206 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: a great time. 207 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: What do you do then? Though? Oh yeah, that's a 208 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: good point. Just I mean, hey, yeah, me too much 209 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: of a muchness? 210 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's do this again? 211 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, this one's an action. Key signs of 212 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: data is over. Ah yeah, people do that? Have you 213 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: never been in kind of like a slow, awkward conversation 214 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: like yeah, I really I want to like exercise the 215 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: right just to like not on a date, but like 216 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: when you're in an conversation, just turn around and leave, 217 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: like mid conversation or something, well like, instead of doing that, 218 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: just oh, I don't want to be trying to think 219 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: of something to keep it going. You don't want to 220 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: be here. Let's just fucking turn around and go our 221 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: separate ways and never talk ever again. 222 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: I actually do something that maybe annoys me or is 223 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 2: more of a pet peeve or something I find is 224 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: interesting with humans and manners is when you cross paths 225 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: with someone that you know well enough that you should 226 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: stop and say hi, and maybe you haven't seen them 227 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 2: for a while. Both of you can tell via body language, 228 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 2: via the wet tone of voice, via where you're going 229 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: with conversation that all you wanted to do was say hi, 230 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: and you both want to get out of there, but 231 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: you're both trying to be polite and ask how the 232 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 2: other's doing and what they've been up to, and oh, 233 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 2: it's great to see you, blah blah blah blah blah, 234 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: Like why like just fucking say high and leave? 235 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: I was raised too, well, what because I feel like 236 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: I have to be polite? Fair, fair key signs of 237 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: data is over when he doesn't want dessert? Yeah, how 238 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: could you go on a date and not want dessert. Yeah, 239 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: it means you're not having fun. Yeah, true, Yeah, he 240 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: doesn't want to because he wants to leave. I remember 241 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: I was on a date once and it was late 242 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: and we went to like three different places to try 243 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: and find assert because they're all close. Yeah, you got 244 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: to keep. Yeah, it's part of the fun. And last 245 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: resort is like we're gonna have to get macas someday, 246 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: love results snacks in my fridge. Okay, last last one. 247 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. 248 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: I feel like I do this just in conversations, and 249 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: if you have to bring this out for a date, 250 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 2: then it's definitely over key signs the date is over. 251 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: You bring out the Wow, that's wild. I do that. 252 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: I've never done it on a date, but I do 253 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: do that in conversations. Really yeah, I hyperbolized. Yeah, shit, 254 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: I respect that. I respects him hyperbole. Yeah, I respect that. 255 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: I respect that. Have you ever what's the worst first 256 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: day you've been on? Actually we're the same brain. I 257 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: was going to bring this up after you finished. Let 258 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: me take you on a story day, you know it. 259 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: But this is the worst date of my life. Actually, 260 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: to be fair, like it wasn't her fault, but we 261 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: just didn't connect and the whole scene was a terrible idea. 262 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: I know what you're about to say, Is this a date? 263 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: Go on? Yeah, it was. It was considered a double date. 264 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: So our good friend was seeing this girl and her 265 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: friend fancied me and I thought she was cute and 266 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: asked if we wanted to do a double date, and 267 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, sure, let's do this. And the 268 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: plan was we both had full drives. I don't know 269 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: why this was the plan. I think our friend at 270 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: the time was really into it, because I know I 271 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: was never really into it, but to go pick up 272 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: edibles Brownie's and go to this little lookout on the 273 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: beach and then just eat the edibles and the chat. 274 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a man. I think it were twenty. 275 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: He's a man. And I had a rooftop ten on 276 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: my kit at the time, so I drove on the 277 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: beach a little bit and we set my rooftop ten 278 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: up and it had a skylight and we all sat 279 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: in It was a big double rooftop ten. We all 280 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: sat in it and like talked and stuff, and we're 281 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: getting pretty high. I remember getting really really high and no, 282 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: this is what happened. We went to go do him, 283 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: and we all agreed to do him, and then me 284 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: and did him, and then the girls didn't want to 285 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: do him. Ah, so you and the friend did them. Yeah, 286 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: so we were high as fuck, and then these girls weren't. 287 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: And then, for some reason, I remember vividly, I was 288 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: getting punched a lot, like her way of flirting was 289 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: to punch me. And I was high, and I thought 290 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: I was on a date with Mike Tyson and my 291 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: arm was starting to hurt. I was like, oh my god. 292 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: And me and this friend went to go do a 293 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: debrief in the surf club toilets and he was high 294 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: as a kite. I remember looking at his eyes and 295 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: they were so red, and then he kept saying to 296 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: me it was wigging me out. He goes, we're on holiday, 297 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: We're on holiday. Holiday, We're on holiday. And I'm like, 298 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: we talking about this, We're on holiday, We're on holiday. 299 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: I was like, all right up. Anyway, the date wasn't 300 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: going anywhere. I was too high, this friend was too high, 301 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: and these girls, I assume we're having a terrible time. Yea, yeah, 302 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: but I couldn't really process. I don't know how to 303 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: quite phrase this, but the date was over and everyone 304 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: had to get home. We got home somehow, Yeah, and 305 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: the girl went to her house, and then I went 306 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: one of our friends. Our friends lived really nearby, and 307 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: I can't go home, like I'm too high. I got 308 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: to like chilli out for a little bit. Our friend 309 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: lived nearby, and anyway, I got to his front like garden, 310 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: and I was walking up there and I just feel 311 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: the urge to vomit. Oh and I literally like on 312 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: little council strip before you get into his lawn. He's 313 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: vomited everywhere. And I just sat there like depressed, like 314 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: I reckon, It's solid twenty minutes, half an hour. He's 315 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: contemplating my life. I'm like, what am I doing for 316 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: my life? That's the word state I've ever been. I 317 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: assume you haven't been on the second one. Well obviously not, 318 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: but you didn't go on so no, no, no, no no. 319 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: I think I dug myself my own hole. But also 320 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: the punching wasn't helping. No, that makes a lot of sense. 321 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I've been on a. 322 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: Double date and that wasn't Like I had a girlfriend 323 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 2: and the friend I went with was also like, it's 324 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: like their girl. 325 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: I've been on another one with the same friend. 326 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: You just loved double dates, mate, No, you love so much, 327 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: Like why don't we have two dates in one? 328 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm the ultimate wingman, mate, geez, I remember I went 329 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: bowling with the same friend, different women, and you did 330 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: it for the friend again, he really fancied the girl 331 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: and he didn't have a chance. 332 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: The common denominator in this is that you just don't 333 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 2: fancy women. 334 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: It sounds like you just don't fancy anyom. No, this 335 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: girl was really really nice. I couldn't fault her by 336 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: any means. But this friend didn't have a chance with 337 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: this girl. But the friend I was talking to was 338 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: friends with her, and I was like, oh, can you 339 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: please organize this? And our friend like, maybe isn't the 340 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: greatest look up, but he's got a great person out. 341 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: I was like, I just got to get him in 342 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: front of her. She'll fall in love. That's my that's 343 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: what that's my role as a friend. So it's like, 344 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 1: and to my credit, it worked. Oh yeah, he got 345 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: it done. Let's go. Yeah. So double dates. Yeah, I've 346 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: never been on a double date. I'm so sure of 347 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: it you me, Beth and Cassie. We no wrong, I've 348 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: been to the movies. So I'm at double date like 349 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: where it was like my first time I went on 350 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: a double date with a friend of ours who it 351 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: was him his girlfriend, and then it was me and 352 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: the girl I wanted to date with. It was like 353 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: her and I's first time meeting, and it was like 354 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 1: a date, but it was also kind of like I think. 355 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 2: I just remember getting a phone call from our friend 356 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 2: being like, hey, do you want to come to the movies. 357 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: It's like me, his girlfriend and then other girl, and 358 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I like fancy, Yeah, and I 359 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: end up dating. Oh was it that one? 360 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how we met. I never remember. Yeah, what 361 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: I was going to say, though, all jokes aside, a 362 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: double date is actually a really good thing. Yeah. Well safety, safety, safety, 363 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: and then also you're kind of just comfortable because you 364 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: have a little bit of like home with you your best 365 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: friend exactly. 366 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: That's not about it. It's actually a good point double data. 367 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 2: They should be maybe a bit more curious. I feel 368 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: like they're so. 369 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: Giddy and you have your little debriefs, you go off 370 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: and like you say, I said that the funny thing 371 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: about it is like you know, it's like maybe you're 372 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: out of double date and you're doing an activity or 373 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: you're at dinner or whatever, and so it's the the 374 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: two women. They're like, oh, we need to go to 375 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: twell you want to come? And they go. They debrief 376 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: and they're like, Okay, what about how we said this? 377 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: What about? Like they get to debrief in the freaking moments, 378 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: so good. And then and when they go to tay, 379 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: you guys literally, okay, how am I doing? Like you're like, 380 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: this is ship. I'm so nervous. It's so fun too, 381 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: because you've never seen your best mate like in this 382 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: scenario and how he acts and they're. 383 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 4: So different and you also it's so funny you just 384 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 4: get to see each other act in this different way. Yeah, 385 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 4: and like because like you're kind of trying to impress them, 386 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 4: but you're trying to be yourself. And then this one 387 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 4: friend I've been on two double dates with goes down 388 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 4: like the funny avenue and I'm there. 389 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: He tries to be like the monny guy. Yeah, this 390 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: guy's not that fun. He's not like, oh hate you 391 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: write this. So I was listening to a podcast and 392 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: they were saying. They were talking about how. 393 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 2: She said in like her early twenties, she wouldn't have 394 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: cared about this, but now she's in her early thirties, 395 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: it's something she cares about. When you get asked on 396 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: a date as a woman, and you know you live 397 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: like in a city, so it doesn't it's just really 398 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: is not it does not make any sense for him 399 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 2: to pick you up. Or it's also a safety thing 400 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: of like you have to tell them where you live 401 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 2: then type of thing. So he's like, so you plan 402 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: to meet at the restaurant. Do you still go if 403 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 2: he doesn't order you an uber to get there? 404 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so. 405 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 2: And so what she was saying is like in her 406 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 2: early twenties to mid twenties, like she would have just 407 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: gone still, but she's like in my early thirties, like 408 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: if he's not organizing how I'm getting there, I'm not going. 409 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: And I was like, kind of fucking, that's kind of sick. 410 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: I kind of disagree that. I was like, that's kind 411 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: of sick because it's your life, Like you chose to 412 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: live in a city, yeah, and like it's your but 413 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: he's asked you on the date. Yeah, Like he's asked you. 414 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 2: To take time out of your evening to go on 415 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 2: a date with him, so it's like, why shouldn't he 416 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: get you there? 417 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: I gesture, I see it. I kind of like, okay. 418 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: I was kind of like, that's kind of like I 419 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: don't like it too because you don't know him anything, 420 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: but you feel like you would if you're having a 421 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: bad date and he's just spent fifty dollars on a bar, 422 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, he's bought this for me. I'm as 423 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: well stay. I mean yeah, that's like maybe, but I 424 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: guess the same you would feel the same way if 425 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: you spent fifty dollars on an uber and the date's 426 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: going shit, and you're like, oh, but I spent fifty 427 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: dollars on the uber, so I may as well just stay, 428 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: have dinner, yeah, and then go. You could feel I know, 429 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: I feel about it. I don't know. I kind of 430 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: fucking like it. Like I think if you got if 431 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: you live in a city and a man asks you 432 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: on a date and like actually is like, I want 433 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: to take you here, I've booked the restaurant blah blah blah, 434 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: and he doesn't like he expects you to get yourself 435 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: bore being ah him. Would you say, playing Devil's advocate, 436 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: if a girl asked you on a date, would you 437 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: expect her to buy you and uber? No? Probably not. No, 438 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: I would tell you. 439 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: I would tell her like if she asked me on 440 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 2: a date, I think I would probably either say I'll 441 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 2: pick you up. 442 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, Yeah, but like that exact reason that you 443 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: don't want to find out where you live. 444 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that the only reason that a different 445 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: the Devil's advocate in that is because as a man, 446 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 2: not once I ever questioned my safety when it comes 447 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: to a woman or even another man. And so it's 448 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: like the reason that like that question just isn't really 449 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: a question, the same way you can't be racist towards 450 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: white people, or you can't be misogynistic towards men or 451 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: whatever it's called it. 452 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: There's like a word for it. So I think that 453 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: that doesn't it's like, that's not a valid question in 454 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: that scenario. I don't think. I don't think that you 455 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: can play Devil's advocate in that way in my opinion. Yeah, 456 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm thinking more of a sense of like I can't 457 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: get into words what I'm thinking. The safety thing is 458 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: obviously not the right question. But there's like a I 459 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: don't know, it's like a hierarchy thing that you shouldn't 460 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: expect that, you should go on the date anyway, and 461 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: it's nice if he does it, but you shouldn't expect it, 462 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: and if he does it, it's really really good. Yeah maybe, yeah, yeah, 463 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean I was just when she said it, I 464 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: was just kind of like, that's like kind of fucking boss. 465 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 466 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: I think if you expect it, that's what's wrong. You 467 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: think expecting it's wrong. Yeah, you shouldn't expect that. I 468 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: don't think, because you are an independent person and you 469 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: want him to be an independent person, expecting it's wrong. 470 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: I don't think you should expecting it wrong. I know 471 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. It might be a hot take. I wouldn't 472 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: want a woman to expect me if she said I'm 473 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: in the city, I'll meet you there, and she expected 474 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: me to say that. I don't think I would want 475 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: to go on a date with her. Really, I don't 476 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: think so. No, she's already I don't think so. He 477 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: is playing his hierarchy role in the relationship already, which 478 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: I don't really like. I like two independent people coming 479 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: together and you show me about your life and I 480 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: get to experience that with you. Not you already expected 481 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: me to do something from you, if that makes sense, 482 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: from you or do something for you for you, well, 483 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: you know you are expecting something from me straight away. 484 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: But is she Yeah, she expects that. She has an expectation. 485 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: I suppose where it's like if I'm asked on a 486 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 2: date and I expect him to get me there. 487 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I disagree. I don't like it. You don't like it, Dang, 488 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: I think that's a I don't think that's it. I 489 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: think that's a valid expectation agreed to do. Yeah, baddies, 490 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? That's an interesting is an interesting one, 491 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: and I do see two point of views, and I 492 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: understand why you would want it, but also I don't 493 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: think I would personally want that fair and I can 494 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: see it being a hot take. It's time for dilemmas. 495 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: If you want to get a dilemma read by us, firstly, 496 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: get yourself into a situation with a man, and then 497 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you will have a dilemma, but no 498 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: bad his fingers crossed. You will have a good relationship 499 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: in your life. But otherwise dilemmas is pinned in the 500 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: comments and they're all anonymous. All right, this one is crazy. Okay. 501 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: I've been dating my boyfriend for nine months, nine and 502 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: he still hasn't told me he loves me. That's a 503 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: long time. It is. Now before everybody jumps through conclusions. 504 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: The confusing part is that he actually treats me incredibly well, 505 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: like I feel very loved by him. He cares about me, 506 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 1: supports me, shows up for me, does all the right things. 507 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 1: His actions scream I love you. The words just never 508 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: seem to leave his mouth. Okay. Meanwhile, I said I 509 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: love you first about five months in his response, I know, 510 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: not I know, I love you too, just I know. 511 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: Then about a month later, we're in bed saying good 512 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: night and I said it again. Instead of saying it back, 513 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: he just gave me a massive hug and started absolutely 514 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: smothering me with kisses like an aggressive amount of affection. 515 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: It honestly felt like he was overcompensating for not saying 516 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: the words. Then another month later, I said it again 517 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: and he literally said thank you. Thank You's freezy gosh, 518 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: she said it again, thank you. Anyways, fast forward another 519 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: month and things have seemed to escalate because it was 520 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: Australia Day and all of my four brothers decided it 521 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: was their civic duty to interrogate him about why he 522 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: hasn't told me he loves me yet. And when I 523 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: say interrogate, I mean they absolutely tore him to shreds 524 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: in front of everyone. Oh that's not great. So now 525 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: it's turned into this whole thing like an actual war 526 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: has happened between my family and him, and somehow I 527 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: ended up stuck in the middle of it, even though 528 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: I didn't ask for any of that to happen, which 529 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: now makes the whole topic super super sensitive because I 530 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: can't even bring it up with him without feeling like 531 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: there's pressure on the situation. And the last thing I 532 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: want for him to say is I love you, just 533 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: because he feels pressured or because he knows it's what 534 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: I want to hear. But also, it has been nine 535 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: months and at this point I feel like I'm living 536 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: some sort of weird psychological experiment. I know he cares 537 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: about me, but the words are just permanently stuck in 538 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: his throat. Funny, Well, no, sorry, not funny. That is 539 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: a very hard dilemma. Yeah, that is very very why 540 00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: hasn't he said it? That is like do we let's actually, 541 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: before we get into the dilemma, do we like what 542 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: the brothers did or not? I don't know. 543 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 2: I don't like what the brothers did because it puts 544 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 2: their sister in a weird situation. Yeah, it's very they're 545 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 2: getting into their relationship then like. 546 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: Brotherly the is Yeah, it's injecting them in the situation. 547 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: I don't think that I would hate that. Yeah, Like 548 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: I think that our relationship is ours. Like you can't 549 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: be talking to people that have bias towards one party, yeah, 550 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: and then having at it, Yeah, start questioning the party 551 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: they don't have bias towards. So I just feel bad 552 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: for the sister really so so the girlfriend for what 553 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: the brothers did, like the question question the boyfriend, Yeah, 554 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: I did. That didn't need to happen. That was a 555 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: bit that's a bit immature on their part. Do you 556 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: think it's a case of he does actually love her 557 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: or he doesn't. That's why he hasn't said it, honestly, 558 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: Like if he in my opinion, like if he loved her, 559 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: would he not say it? Yeah? And it comes back 560 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: to men have this weird ideology that if they say 561 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: I love you or will you be my girlfriend, they 562 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: have this weird commitment issue where like they're locked in 563 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: and they can't get out. I don't know why. 564 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 2: Where was it such a nice gesture, very very very 565 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 2: hard one. So in Beth and myself's relationship. So I like, 566 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: I knew at a point from I knew I loved 567 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: her at one point, and then I actually didn't say. 568 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: It straight away. Yeah, I didn't say it straight away. 569 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: I can't really like, I no excuse or no no valid, 570 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 2: real valid reason. I just I knew it and I 571 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: didn't say it, and I knew I was going to 572 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: say it very soon, but she ended up saying it first, 573 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 2: and I said it back straight away because I knew. 574 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: So I'm not saying what I did was right or 575 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: what I did was wrong. 576 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: But all I am saying is that when she said it, 577 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: I said it back because I knew. But I'm trying 578 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: to think about how I would feel. Is if I 579 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: was to tell my girlfriend I love her five months 580 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: in and she says I know, and then doesn't say 581 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 2: it back. Hmm, Yeah, I wouldn't like that at all. 582 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 2: I think honestly, I think I would like, I'd be pissed. 583 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: I think i'd but I think i'd break up with 584 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 2: someone if they didn't love me, do you I think, like, 585 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: thinking about it from this perspective, I don't know how 586 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 2: I would really feel in the moment, but I kind. 587 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: Of would just feel stupid. I agree, like do you 588 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: love me or not? But it's so hard too because 589 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: actions speak loud in words and he's such a perfect boyfriend. 590 00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: Actions do speak louder than words, but also words fucking 591 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: sometimes matter a lot. 592 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: Like nine months is a long time. If she said 593 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: like three or six, i'd be chilling, But nine is 594 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: almost a year obviously. But yeah, but okay, so. 595 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: The nine months of not saying it, it's a long time. 596 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: But if neither one of them had said it, I 597 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: would be thinking, okay, like maybe this is a little better. 598 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: But the fact that you've said it multiple times he goes. 599 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: One of the times he says I know, the next 600 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: time he says thank you, like he's deflecting. 601 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: I think I'm actually gonna agree with you. I think 602 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: this is one hard conversation to have. Ask him, why 603 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: you haven't said I love you yet? If he doesn't 604 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: have a very very valid reason I would break up 605 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: with him, say, I don't see what would be a 606 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: valid reason if he said, oh, I'm still not sure, 607 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: but what it's been nine months, I'm breaking up with you. Yeah. 608 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 2: Also, here's the thing is, I don't want to jump 609 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 2: to any conclusions here, but I am gonna. I'm assuming 610 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 2: that the reason your brother pepping him with the question 611 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 2: is because you've told your brothers that you've said I 612 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: love you and he hasn't. 613 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: Obviously. 614 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think that what you should just one 615 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: thing you should take from that is like the fact 616 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: that although you should talk to someone, it shouldn't be 617 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: someone with that it shouldn't be a direct family member. 618 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: Maybe it shouldn't, you know what I mean, Like in 619 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 2: them getting involved, if it did make it more complicated. 620 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: I agree, But it's also it's not a fault because 621 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: like you probably were just venting and then they took 622 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: it to the next step. So valid, And also I 623 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: don't know, they've kind of shot you in the foot 624 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: there because now when you bring it up, he's just 625 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: going to be like, oh, that was so fucking annoying, 626 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: be like, oh I was so painful. Look three times too, 627 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: three strikes and you're out fucking I just can't. I 628 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: don't know the guy, I don't know. You put me 629 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: on the spot, ask me why I haven't let me 630 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: see what I say. Why haven't you said I love 631 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: you back? Because my last relationship I said it and 632 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: really call so much damage And I just don't know 633 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 1: if I'm ready to say it again. Yeah. First thing 634 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: that came to mind. If that is what someone said 635 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: to me, I would break up with them. I'd be like, well, okay, 636 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: well then why you like, why do you waste my time? Exactly? Yeah? 637 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: And then I guess actually, and every individual is different. 638 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: So the BADDI listening right now? We nine months is 639 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: too long for us. Set a boundary of yourself. Might 640 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: be nine months, might be yeah, it might be a 641 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: year and a half. But there should be a set 642 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: period of time. I think with this motherfucker should say it. 643 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: And that is a very individualized preference, but for us, 644 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: nine months is enough. For most people, I think nine 645 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: months is enough. But you make that how, don't you know? Yeah? 646 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: I reckon, you need six weeks, break up with him, 647 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,239 Speaker 1: don't have sex with him anymore. Yeah, there you go, 648 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: hold out? Yeah, see if he says that then, and 649 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: he's like, I really want to fuck you, and you're like, thanks, 650 00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: I know, I know you do. 651 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 2: Fuck off fucker all right. Anyway, I've got to preface 652 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 2: the people, or sorry, not the people. The this battie 653 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: is from Hawaii because, like she says. 654 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: Something about mainland and stuff, wakiki is that in Hawaii? 655 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: Is in Hawaii? 656 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 2: She says at the end of it, Aloha from Hawaii. 657 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 2: As also said, it's not Hawaii like you do say 658 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 2: it differently. It's like I don't want to butcher it anyway, okay. 659 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: Oh. Also, she says at the end, you guys are 660 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: funny for Australians or Australians. How sorry. 661 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 2: I've been with my boyfriend for two years and he's amazing, 662 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 2: but I recently discovered he still has nearly two hundred 663 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 2: photos of his ex two hundred they dated for six years. 664 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,359 Speaker 2: This bothers me for a few reasons. It should girl, 665 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: I've told him I feeling secure about her. She's a model, student, pilot, wealthy, tall, blonde, 666 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 2: very different from me. A couple months into the relationship, 667 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 2: I saw a photo of him and her on his 668 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: homescreen widget. I said, I understood the breakup was fresh 669 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 2: and I wasn't asking him to delete everything right now, 670 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: but seeing them later would really hurt me. After a 671 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 2: year and a half together, I see another photo on 672 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 2: his home screen widget. I told him how it made 673 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 2: me feel, and he said he'd delete them. He's generally 674 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: been honest early on, so he's generally been honest early on. 675 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 2: Before we officially started dating, he told me he had 676 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: just broken up with her. She doesn't live with him anymore, 677 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 2: but she will be coming back to finish moving her 678 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 2: things back to the mainland or as you Ossis call it, 679 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 2: the States. He even told me that when she came 680 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 2: back to pack her things, they were sleeping in the 681 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 2: same bed temporarily, but insisted nothing happened. I chose to 682 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 2: trust him because I'm thinking he didn't have to tell 683 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 2: me this and could have just lied. Maybe I'm just 684 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 2: being naive. Recently I snooped through his phone and found 685 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: he still has almost two hundred photos of her, including 686 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: one nude she was food. She was fully naked, but 687 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 2: just covering her private parts with her hands. The tricky 688 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 2: part is he did delete the photos that showed up 689 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 2: on the widget, and he has well over a thousand photos, 690 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 2: mostly of cars, so he may not realize these are 691 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 2: still there. 692 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: Now. 693 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 2: I'm torn between admitting I snooped and bringing it up 694 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: or saying nothing and dealing with it myself. By the way, Hello, 695 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 2: helloa from White Love the podcast. You guys are fine, 696 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: frustratas two years risky. You got to break up with 697 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 2: this guy, not brokey so bad? You got to break 698 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 2: up with this ah. 699 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: Hell not that is so breakup worthy one hundred percent. 700 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: I think you should break up him right now, but 701 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: not that it matters. How did the widgets work? I 702 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: don't give a fuck. Yeah, I don't give a but 703 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: I think that answers her question because it seems to 704 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: me that he's gone onto her. The widgets are selected, 705 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: and man, sure pictures of the X doesn't come up anymore, 706 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: and he's kept him and gone off and wanked to him. 707 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 2: She said she noticed that in the photos the widgets, 708 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 2: the photos she saw of the widgets were deleted, so 709 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: he deleted those ones. 710 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: Oh, but he hasn't deleted the other two hundred he's got, 711 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: and like having. 712 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 2: Over a thousand photos in my opinion, also not that many, like. 713 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: Literally photos, I have seven thousand, a thousand photos is 714 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 1: not has like thirty thousand. 715 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, bethany same thing. I have sixteen eight hundred and 716 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 2: seven item K in my library, sixteen k items that's videos. 717 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,839 Speaker 1: And photos, still so many one thousand. I just it's 718 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 1: been too long. I don't like it. And then also 719 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: just we made a clip actually and we said you 720 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: should delete everything from your previous partners, and some people 721 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: really don't agree with us. I fully, wholeheartedly believe that 722 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: you should delete everything. I agree, And then some people 723 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: that justification is oh, but I've had such good memories 724 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,919 Speaker 1: with them. I don't care why. 725 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: And his thing is like thinking right now, God forbid 726 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:59,240 Speaker 2: Beth and I were ever to break up, Like, I 727 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 2: obviously love Henry like nearly as much as I love Beth. 728 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah you know your dog, yeah yeah, yeah, And but Henry, if. 729 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 2: Beth and I broke up, he is beth dog. He 730 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 2: would go with Beth and Darcy would stay with me. Yeah, 731 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 2: And I'm sure she would love to keep photos of Darcy, 732 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 2: and I would love to keep photos of Henry. I 733 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 2: would love to keep seeing Henry. But I'm also not 734 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 2: the type to do that, like. 735 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: I it sounds so harsh right now, but like if 736 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: Beth and I were to break up, there would be 737 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: a point in time before I was like once I knew, 738 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: I was ready like moved on and ready to start 739 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: dating again, Like I would delete everything. Yeah. To me, 740 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,919 Speaker 1: it shows you've healed, and this guy's never really healed. Yeah. 741 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,760 Speaker 2: But again, I guess like people being like I had, 742 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 2: you know that was so it was a very happy 743 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 2: time of my life, Like, that's lots. I have lots 744 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 2: of great memories with that person. I think I can 745 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 2: also see that now. 746 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: I think I can. 747 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 2: I think I have a you all, like a non 748 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 2: binary mindset what non binary means multiple correct, Like I 749 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 2: don't have a binary mindset? 750 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much, I have. 751 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 2: I have a Yeah, I don't have a binary mindset 752 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 2: on this because I wouldn't probably want to be with 753 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 2: someone that keeps photos, but there. 754 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: Is people that wouldn't care. I agree. 755 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 2: So I'm just not the right person for the type 756 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 2: of person that wants to keep photos. 757 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's an insecurity thing or not. 758 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: I don't, I really don't. I guess it's the way 759 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: you show love and receive love. To me, it's black 760 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 1: and white that you're still in love with your ex. 761 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: I recognize what it mal whoa hard say you used 762 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: to love this person at one point, you had sex 763 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: of him, you had the best time of your life 764 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: with him, and keeping photos of him that means something. 765 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: It's not because all I just want to look back 766 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: and think of such a good time. But now I 767 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: love you fuck off. 768 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 2: It's hardest, isn't it, Because it's like, well, I understand 769 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 2: you had a great time with them, but you're not 770 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 2: with them. 771 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: Anymore, exactly like, and you're not with them for a reason. 772 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 1: They friend, they aren't your friends, they're not family. You're 773 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: not with them for a reason because you guys didn't 774 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: work out, So why do you need to keep all 775 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: that like that? Like I am more on that side 776 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 1: of the fence. Yeah, yeah, piece of people straight up, 777 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: Like I keep photos, keep photos the only reason I 778 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: could like But also, you broke up for a reason. 779 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: Obviously it didn't work out. Why didn't work out? Because 780 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: he was a bad person, she was a bad person. 781 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: Don't keep photos of them? Different mindsets? Was wrong person, 782 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: right time, right wrong time, right person. I didn't really 783 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 1: like it. Break up with him two years too long too, 784 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 1: I would understand like, how long was the period of 785 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 1: time between these two relationships? 786 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think it was too long. He dated 787 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 2: his ex girlfriend for six years and then I think 788 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 2: it wasn't very I think I'm going to say it 789 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 2: was half a year, maybe a time a bit longer, 790 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,399 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit. 791 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to give it six months. That's my max. 792 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm keeping photos and stuff if it's after six months. Yeah, 793 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: like look my I because here's my thinking as well 794 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: as like, Okay, but you were with someone for six years, Okay, 795 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: you've had a great time, like. 796 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 2: You you you you were broken hearted? 797 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,720 Speaker 1: You want to keep the photos cool. 798 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 2: It's like, what are you going to do when you 799 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 2: meet someone new? Who is now? This person's the perfect person, right, 800 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 2: this person you you're fully healed, You meet them, you 801 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,720 Speaker 2: fall in love. It's the deepest STFF you've ever been in. Yeah, Okay, 802 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 2: you get married. 803 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,839 Speaker 1: What are you keeping all these old photos of your 804 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: past six year relationship for? Because you still in love 805 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: of them? But that's exactly that's what I'm saying. It's like, 806 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: unless you've got like children with them, Yeah, what are 807 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: you keeping them for? Is it also the same as 808 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: imagine like, so your partner hasn't kept any photos of them. 809 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: But one day you walk in the living room and 810 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 1: your partners on the couch scroll having a coffee with them. No, 811 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: imagine that scroll. Yeah that's even worse. But they're on 812 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: their Instagram and just have a scroll and you're like, 813 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: what are you doing? 814 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 3: Oh? 815 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 1: I was just checking. There's such good memories. Sure that 816 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: is the best question. 817 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 4: You'd be like, fuck, what fuck are you doing? 818 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: It? A the fucking out? I had such good memories 819 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: with him for fucking six years. Fuck, that's the best question. 820 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: Leave me alone a nude one too? Do you subscribe 821 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: to our only fancis? 822 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 3: Hyeah? 823 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:36,919 Speaker 1: Fuck god, that's better a comment. It might have even 824 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: been an Instagram DM, and we get it quite frequently, 825 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: and it was how do we start the podcast? Why 826 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: did we start it? How do you get into it? 827 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: And we thought it's been a while, or about three 828 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: and a half. 829 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 2: Years, nearly four four shit, during like twenty second or something. 830 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: Four is four years of us doing the Relatables podcast together. 831 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: So a lot of you are probably new don't know 832 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: how we started where we started, unless he went back 833 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 1: to the very very start. But we're also awkward, little 834 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: losers back then. Yeah, I couldn't go back then, so 835 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 1: I reckon we could just give a little rundown debrief 836 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: of how Relatables came to be what it is to 837 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: this day. 838 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of funny, I guess, like I personally didn't. 839 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 2: I don't think it ever crossed my mind to start 840 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 2: a podcast. And but at the time we started the podcast, 841 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 2: I would say podcasts had blown up, like big time. 842 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 2: They had blown up, and it was arguably like a 843 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 2: saturated market, you know something. And I just remember so 844 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 2: basically Audie and I, okay, we met in year seven, 845 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 2: in grade seven or whatever, when I moved from my 846 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 2: school to his school, and then he actually moved from 847 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 2: a class like I got moved into this class, and 848 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 2: then you know, stars aligned, and aud he moves into 849 00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 2: same He moved from one class to another class. He 850 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 2: was already that school. And then you'd think, where I'm 851 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 2: about to go with this is. 852 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: We hit it off straight away, just like class hands, 853 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: like you and I are going to be fucking friends. Yeah, 854 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: best buddies. And I mean, like I'm sure we got 855 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: introduced to each other and then just literally lived separate 856 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: lives like I came to school having friends from primary 857 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 1: school that went to that school, and obviously I went 858 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: hang out in them, same as addis like primary school 859 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,240 Speaker 1: went to the same school because like different primary schools, 860 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: feeding in the high schools and just lived separate lives 861 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: with like acquainted friend groups or whatever. Literally throughout all 862 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: of school. Yeah, year seven and twelve, we weren't even 863 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: made throughout all school. 864 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,439 Speaker 2: Like someone could have said, what do you think Audio 865 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 2: would have been like, oh, yeah, like nice guy, I 866 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 2: got a few classes with. 867 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: Any and then I assume he would have said the 868 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: same thing, or he would have been like, yeah, nice 869 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 1: guy's got big cars or something. That's what I would 870 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 1: have said. Again, that's like I wouldn't have said a 871 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: bad thing. No neither, no, and yeah exactly. And then 872 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: I think, like what happened, in my opinion was so 873 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: I actually I did. 874 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 2: I completed year ten, but then left. I didn't finish school. 875 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 2: I went and did a carpentry apprenticeship. And then throughout 876 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,919 Speaker 2: like I think that that year, when everyone was doing 877 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 2: year eleven, more people were leaving slowly. Yeah, it didn't 878 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 2: like it's not as common as it used to be, 879 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 2: but more people believing and I have a feeling that 880 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,320 Speaker 2: was like friend groups sort of once everyone left school 881 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 2: and smaller, and then some morphed. 882 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of friend groups morphed together. 883 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 2: And so a really really good friend of mine, JJ, 884 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 2: he like must have just morphed his way into your 885 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 2: friend group. 886 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,280 Speaker 1: JJ was a friend of everyone. He became the biggest 887 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,399 Speaker 1: friend of ours. But he was friends with everyone. Yet 888 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 1: I've never met someone that knows so many people. And 889 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: if you catch JJ on a night out, he'll tell 890 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: everyone that he's the reason. 891 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 2: If you met JJ on a night out when we 892 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 2: were like anywhere from nineteen to like twenty three, he 893 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:53,879 Speaker 2: would have added you to our friend group. 894 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 1: He would have added you to the group chat I 895 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 1: was going. He would have added you to the group 896 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: chat if you met him on a night out. Now 897 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: you meet him on a night out, and he would say, 898 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 1: I'm the reason relatables And so JJ is kind of 899 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: like so school ends, and then I think I can't 900 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 1: remember how it happened, but so I me and JJ 901 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: might have had We just like got a lot closer 902 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: via girlfriends, I believe, and then we were alway pretty close, 903 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 1: but we got a lot closer that way. And then 904 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: at the same time, ODDI and JJ were also becoming 905 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 1: really good friends, just like separately. And then I think 906 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 1: just over time, I started just like going out with JJ, 907 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: and JJ was part of this friend group where it 908 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: was JJ Otdie and then like four or five other 909 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 1: of our friends, and I was like friends with some 910 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: of them from primary school and then also from high school, 911 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: so we all knew each other. 912 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,959 Speaker 2: And then I think JJ just started bringing me along 913 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 2: to like nights out, and then I got brought into 914 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 2: this like friend group called shit Cunts. 915 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, the most Australian name, so it's called Shitcunts. And 916 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 1: then I was the last member to be added and 917 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I'm on it, and no one 918 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: got added everywhere. You were the last and then yeah. 919 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 1: So then basically just through like proximity, yeah, proximity. And 920 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: then this was probably when we were about nineteen, and 921 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 1: our friendship started to flourish a bit, I think because 922 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: we had a lot of i'm going to say morals 923 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 1: that were the same and we connected on that. We 924 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: had a lot of outlooks about life were very very similar. 925 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: And then we started there's a thing in Australia called 926 00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 1: surf boat rowing, and we started rowing boats together. So 927 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: the proximity thing again, we're hanging out three four times 928 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: a week. Like I said, the morals were very similar, 929 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: and we were both kind of like in a bit 930 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 1: of lostness. Jacob finished his carpentry apprenticeship. I'd tried Gunner 931 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: Uni like twice, maybe three times. At that point, I 932 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: was like, I'm just fucking lost, and I think we're 933 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,359 Speaker 1: both just a little bit lost. And we weren't even 934 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 1: like that good mates at the time. No, but we 935 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 1: somehow came to the conclude to travel up the East 936 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: Coast of Australia. Maybe it was because we both had 937 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 1: full drives. Maybe we all started going camping as a 938 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: group a lot. 939 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe just like over maybe just like hanging out 940 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 2: a bunch of going camping and then just going out 941 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 2: on weekends and stuff. Maybe we just started hanging out 942 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 2: a lot more, and then a kind of feeling like, 943 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 2: because neither one of us would have just gone on 944 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 2: a fucking three month trip that we weren't like good friends. 945 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. True, So we must have just been good friends 946 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: at that point. I can't we remember, Yeah, never can I. 947 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 1: But we went on a three month hiatus camping up 948 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 1: the East coast of Australia out a jeep wrangler. Jake 949 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: had a towyter troopy. What year nineteen eighty six? Yeah, 950 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 1: I think with a B we moved in slow motion 951 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 1: fucking wherever. We didn't go that far. We got as 952 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,839 Speaker 1: far as Early Beach. But what ended up happening was 953 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 1: the friendship flourished even more. Yeah, and we did become 954 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,359 Speaker 1: like clearly best mates. And the conversations they started off 955 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,320 Speaker 1: very surface level as guys to fucking chicks, feeling yeah, surfing, 956 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 1: drinking a bit of beer. At that time we both 957 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 1: were still drinking a fair bit. It was fun then though, 958 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 1: because we didn't get hungover, and then we like going 959 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 1: to breweries. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, and then we came 960 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: back ready here. One one thing I want to say 961 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,280 Speaker 1: is literally, I think like the first week we were away, 962 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 1: because like you just spent so much time with someone, 963 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: we just started being like I think one night we 964 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,359 Speaker 1: were having dinner somewhere and we were just like, all right, 965 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 1: business plan, We're opening a bar, a bar when we 966 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,320 Speaker 1: get home, right, it's going to have arcade games. Were 967 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 1: like table but we're going to have this. We're like, 968 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: we're doing it we had a note in our like 969 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: a shared note apple like things we needed for our bar, 970 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:46,879 Speaker 1: and when we started just like thinking business. I yeah, 971 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 1: I forgot about that. And we had heaps of business 972 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 1: ideas along the way, so many random ones. Podcasting wasn't one. 973 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 1: Here's what. 974 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,799 Speaker 2: No, here's one of the reasons why I think that 975 00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 2: we actually have good business ideas. It depends I don't 976 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 2: that bar would have been cool, but we both stopped drinking. 977 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 1: Now. 978 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:10,240 Speaker 2: Second one, we were like, we need to get gummy 979 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 2: bears or something that have either creatine in them. 980 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, we came up. Or we need to make it 981 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 1: so you can have gummy bears that have like pre 982 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 1: workout in them. This is in like what year was this? 983 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty, this is twenty this is where we're on 984 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: our trip. Yeah nine, this is twenty. No, it would 985 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,720 Speaker 1: be twenty twenty one, twenty twenty one or another idea. 986 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 1: Caffeine gum. Guess what exists? Now? Yeah, that was I'll 987 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 1: give Jake. That was his. I think it may have 988 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 1: always existed, but it just wasn't that big. Ye caffeine gum. 989 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: AnyWho we've got we have some pieces you guys would 990 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: be famous otherwise, but okay, So we went home COVID 991 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,759 Speaker 1: and then both got like really into the gym and 992 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: just hanging out. 993 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 2: And then I just remember Audi coming to the gym 994 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 2: one day being like because I think everyone was in 995 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 2: like a stagnant position in life because of COVID or 996 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,320 Speaker 2: do you. I remember him saying like, we should fucking 997 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 2: try a podcast, and it initially I was just thinking 998 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 2: like that is like I can't put myself out. 999 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,919 Speaker 1: There, Like I know why I came to you too, 1000 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 1: obviously our friendship, but you were trying a bit of 1001 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 1: videography and you're posting years prior. Yeah, you're you're posting 1002 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,359 Speaker 1: some fashion shit on Instagram a little bit. Yeah, And 1003 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 1: I remember, oh yeah at that point is yeah, because 1004 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,839 Speaker 1: you were very open minded where I had a lot 1005 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 1: of other friends too, and no one was as open 1006 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 1: minded as you were, like understanding and like most people 1007 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,719 Speaker 1: have said start a podcast firstly wouldn't have the dog 1008 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 1: in him to do it, but they'd be like, oh, 1009 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 1: it's such a fucking dumbo. Yeah, but I was like, yeah, 1010 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 1: let's fucking do it. I remember initially being like that's scary, 1011 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,879 Speaker 1: that's scary, but being like okay, okay. And I think 1012 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: initially I thought like, yeah, I said I'll do it, 1013 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,479 Speaker 1: and then I was thinking, yeah, but it's not gonna happen. 1014 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 1: And then one maybe a couple of weeks later, like 1015 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: I think it was mentioned a few more times, and 1016 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,399 Speaker 1: audio goes yeah, Like we could think about it as 1017 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 1: people do a four year degree and come out of 1018 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,359 Speaker 1: it in debt and don't go and then they make 1019 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 1: no money because no one has them because they need experience, 1020 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 1: Like we could try doing a podcast for four years 1021 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 1: while we're just working and making money, but we're also 1022 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,480 Speaker 1: doing this podcast and if in four years it doesn't work, 1023 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 1: then we just like cut our losses and fucking get 1024 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 1: out of it. And so we just thought, shit, yeah, 1025 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,800 Speaker 1: we'll go into the mindset of four years. And god, 1026 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,799 Speaker 1: well I think I think I had that mindset too 1027 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 1: because I was trying to do union. I was like, 1028 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 1: this feels like the dumbest thing. We're giving up four 1029 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 1: years of their life. Yeah, sorry if anyone's doing. 1030 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,360 Speaker 2: It also, And we also I remember we both thought 1031 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,360 Speaker 2: we both just hated working for a person. 1032 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: I remember that, Yeah, And then same likewise of you 1033 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: like you did four years of being a carpenter. Yeah, 1034 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 1: and then you were like, well, I don't want to 1035 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 1: do that anymore. It planned to see a subconscious seed 1036 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 1: in my mind and there. Yeah, one day I said 1037 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,800 Speaker 1: to Jake, let's do it. We bought We initially started 1038 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,319 Speaker 1: with these shitty little microphone from JB High five and 1039 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 1: they were like one hundred fifty bucks. Yeah, and they 1040 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 1: didn't work. And we tried to do like two episodes 1041 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,359 Speaker 1: and no one will over here and we'll se walk 1042 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 1: and they're gone. Yeah, they're gone. We couldn't make it work. 1043 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,479 Speaker 1: I still have the laptop we did them on. Really. Yeah, 1044 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: you never know. And then one day bad is you 1045 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 1: won't for leave this. So one day I messaged Jake 1046 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 1: and I was like how much was it? 1047 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 2: Odi just messages me and goes like, you owe me 1048 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:07,880 Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty bucks. 1049 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 1: I was like okay, And I on Facebook Marketplace bought 1050 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,720 Speaker 1: if anyone that wants to know the tech a road 1051 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 1: Caster pro and three microphones for what seven hundred dollars. Headphones, yeah, 1052 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:27,719 Speaker 1: and some headphones and baddies. We are still using the 1053 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 1: same headphones, yeah, and the same road caster, which is 1054 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: all your audio you heard for the last three and 1055 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,720 Speaker 1: a half years, four years. Yeah, we have new mics, 1056 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 1: we have new cameras, but like, yeah, we fucking it's 1057 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 1: never failed us. Yeah, ever, but that's where it started. 1058 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 1: And I do remember being super nervous, but also I 1059 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 1: felt it's weird because I feel like social media is 1060 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 1: a lot more normal these days for people to be 1061 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,799 Speaker 1: in the public eye a little bit bit, especially from 1062 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: where we are from and putting ourselves out there. I 1063 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 1: felt like an idiot. Same, I felt like an idiot. 1064 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 1: Bro and my dad walking in this. 1065 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 2: One day, being like, what are you doing and we 1066 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 2: were like, we're recording a podcast and he goes cool, 1067 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 2: It's like cool. 1068 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: Like yeah, I clearly remember feeling like an idiot, and 1069 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 1: I felt like an idiot for a long time. It 1070 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 1: was honestly, I won't lie that it was kind of 1071 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 1: like a fakeacy make a situation. I was like, no, 1072 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,800 Speaker 1: this is fine, cool, like, and I felt like an idiot, 1073 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 1: and we couldn't do it about each other. I couldn't 1074 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:25,960 Speaker 1: do it about you. Now, well, we both would stop. I 1075 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: would stop stopped in it. 1076 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,840 Speaker 2: And proof that it would have stopped is that we 1077 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 2: both Proof that we both would have stopped is that 1078 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 2: we both tried just like small little personal endeavors that 1079 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 2: like benefit the podcast and benefit our own personal brand 1080 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:39,320 Speaker 2: didn't last. 1081 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,839 Speaker 1: I think it holds each other accountable, even though there 1082 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 1: is an underlying bit of like I've got to do 1083 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,320 Speaker 1: this for Jake or you've got to do this. Yeah, 1084 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 1: we just feel like we do. It's become a business. 1085 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 1: But there's also no like there was no magic moment 1086 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 1: where like three episodes in we start to blow up. 1087 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: I think we went was it a year and a half? 1088 00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, but I will say, okay, I remember already 1089 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 2: being like the call what I want the concept to 1090 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 2: be here? Remember had been so do you really like 1091 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 2: the Inspirted on Employed podcasts at the time? And I 1092 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 2: also really I actually really like Shits and Gigs, And 1093 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,840 Speaker 2: I think I introduced audio to Shits and Gigs a 1094 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 2: little bit then as well. And so those two podcasts 1095 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:19,839 Speaker 2: were massive, massive what's it called inspirations. It's just like 1096 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,839 Speaker 2: where like ideas came from. And so we really liked 1097 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 2: how like the Inspired Unemployed had like segments, how it 1098 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,800 Speaker 2: was like broken up and it just kept people listening. 1099 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 2: And so we always wanted we thought, like we want 1100 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 2: to talk about like memories how things. We really like 1101 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 2: camping with our friends at that point in time. We 1102 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,359 Speaker 2: loved hanging out with friends, just like stories of our 1103 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 2: life up until that point. And then we also wanted 1104 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 2: to like have it be. We wanted to have moments 1105 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 2: if you guys have been around for a long time, 1106 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 2: we would have a thing where we'd be like, okay, 1107 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 2: we've got a deep segment, and we would just think 1108 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,320 Speaker 2: of a topic, maybe like right before we started recording, 1109 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 2: or we'd have one for a week in mind of 1110 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 2: like how does it make you feel when this happens, 1111 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,759 Speaker 2: and then we would intentionally try and get deep about 1112 00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 2: a subject and talk about how it made us feel. 1113 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,360 Speaker 2: And we wanted to do that because we wanted to 1114 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:03,840 Speaker 2: have a bit of a takeaway from each episode. We 1115 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,600 Speaker 2: actually also wanted it to be geared towards men talking 1116 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 2: about their feelings, and that didn't happen. 1117 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 1: No, it was good. 1118 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:15,040 Speaker 2: It is evidently geared towards women, which we love, which 1119 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 2: is actually like a way better outcome for us, and 1120 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,880 Speaker 2: honestly we like you guys way better. But yeah, so 1121 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,280 Speaker 2: that's where it started. But yeah, yeah, again, where already 1122 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 2: was going was fuck, we just would post for we 1123 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,160 Speaker 2: didn't really miss any episodes ever, and I think just 1124 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,440 Speaker 2: for the longest time we were getting maybe. 1125 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,279 Speaker 1: We got up to like three hundred listens per episode. Yeah, 1126 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 1: it was like three hundred listens for the longest time. 1127 00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,240 Speaker 1: We went through different sets, and then it all changed 1128 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 1: for us. Was it Jack Conroy? Who it was he 1129 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 1: told you to start bothing video names? This sucks? I 1130 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 1: know him Concrete? Yeah, what the hell? I feel really bad. 1131 00:56:54,719 --> 00:57:02,800 Speaker 1: I don't remember his name. Just someone that I'm friends with. Jordan, Yeah, Jordan, No, Jason, Jayden, Jordan, 1132 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 1: Joseph anyway, just a random dude. Yeah, really nice guy. Yeah, 1133 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:09,839 Speaker 1: not very good friends at all. 1134 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 2: But he just like messaged me on Instagram one day 1135 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 2: and goes, oh, I've noticed that you started the pod. 1136 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 1: I love it. He goes. 1137 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 2: I tried doing TikTok for a bit, and one of 1138 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 2: the best bist advice that anyone ever gave me was 1139 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 2: post every day. And so he goes, I noticed that 1140 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 2: like your TikTok clips, you girls will get maybe like 1141 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 2: one or two from the episodes and post them just 1142 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,320 Speaker 2: maybe once or twice a week. You might see a 1143 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 2: lot more growth if you try and post on every 1144 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 2: single day. From that moment, I took it as gospel. 1145 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,320 Speaker 2: And now the only bit of advice that I have 1146 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 2: for anyone starting a podcast or doing anything social media 1147 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:41,439 Speaker 2: is to post every day. 1148 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 1: And I have no other advice because I've learned nothing. 1149 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,320 Speaker 1: And honestly, though, at that point in time, TikTok was 1150 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 1: just done to blow up a lot, yeah, quite a 1151 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 1: bit more yeah, And there wasn't all these like you 1152 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 1: can go on TikTok now and everyone's saying like all 1153 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 1: these different shit. There wasn't that kind of like system there, 1154 00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 1: and it was just like trial and error. And we 1155 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 1: are everything to TikTok and social media because it blew 1156 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 1: up and showed people who we were and that like 1157 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 1: our product is actually decent. There's no other way that 1158 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,440 Speaker 1: can compare the exposure. And then we learn about gear 1159 00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 1: we've gone on. We upgraded our sets the more money 1160 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 1: we made. We started with iPhones for cameras, those microphones 1161 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 1: lasted like fucking two years, went to one camera. Now 1162 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 1: we've got three cameras. Saying with like just learning about 1163 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 1: there's so much different things in the industry. And I 1164 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 1: think another reason we both love podcasting. Slash Whites worked 1165 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 1: is a lot of podcasters. Famous people will come in talk, 1166 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 1: leave and they don't have a single hand in the 1167 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 1: production side of things. Yea and I both fell in 1168 00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 1: love with the production side of stuff. How cameras work, 1169 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 1: how to record and make it sound good, how to edit. 1170 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: We do all post productions. Yeah, we do everything. And 1171 00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 1: like we've gone to places before where like if we 1172 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 1: were to hire a studio for when we luckily got 1173 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 1: that was a a pinchby moment. When we did a 1174 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 1: podcast with shits and gigs, shoots and gigs, and we 1175 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:57,720 Speaker 1: go in there and we talk and we know about 1176 00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 1: and everyone's like, oh shit, like how many people fucking 1177 00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:04,040 Speaker 1: know this? We've we've we've recorded podcasts where someone's sitting 1178 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,440 Speaker 1: there as the producer and we'll just do a podcast 1179 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 1: as we would normally do, and then they're like, that's 1180 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 1: the first time I've ever sat in on a podcast 1181 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 1: where someone hasn't looked over and said, what do we 1182 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 1: talk about now? Yeah? And we're like yeah, And that's 1183 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,520 Speaker 1: one of the reasons as well. I guess too, like 1184 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,400 Speaker 1: we've kept the podcast duo us because like, you love 1185 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,959 Speaker 1: talking to each other. I see also like. 1186 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 2: I find that I want to put out what I 1187 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 2: would listen to, And I personally only listen to podcasts 1188 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,960 Speaker 2: where it's a duo and they never have guests, like 1189 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 2: I like camaraderie. Yeah, like when She's and gigs have 1190 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,600 Speaker 2: guest episodes, I don't listen to them. Yeah, you know 1191 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,000 Speaker 2: what I mean, Like I only like that's just that's 1192 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 2: just me And I don't know if that's right or wrong, 1193 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 2: but I can't. Yeah, no one can tell us to 1194 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 2: do and we can't tell them us what to do. 1195 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, so bad is I reckon? A lot of people 1196 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 1: like to think, Oh, I would love to do social media. 1197 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,200 Speaker 1: I'd love to start a podcast whatever it is. It 1198 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 1: doesn't even have to be on social media. But like, 1199 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 1: it's this trial and error. There was no magic pill, 1200 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,760 Speaker 1: there was nothing, no moment where it was just like 1201 00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 1: we made it, sticking at it day after day, turning 1202 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 1: up for each other and trialing. I think that's where 1203 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 1: we've worked. We trial so many different things. 1204 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think, like being nearly four years in 1205 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 2: it just still I gotta say I still wouldn't say I. 1206 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Feel like. 1207 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 2: Fully I may Maybe the word is like secure, is 1208 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,800 Speaker 2: that like a good word to use? Like I feel 1209 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 2: lucky I would say there is lots of great arguments 1210 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 2: that we are successful in our field, but like I 1211 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 2: still feel like. 1212 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm not fully secure and I don't know if I 1213 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 1: ever will imposter syndrome. Well, we'll live it on. The 1214 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 1: reason we signed with Nova was hopefully by the end 1215 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,600 Speaker 1: of this year or next year, we will feel secure. Yeah, hopefully, 1216 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 1: and like, yeah, fingers crossed. It's kind of funny. It's like, 1217 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, it's very. 1218 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 2: I mean I was flying when I was flying here 1219 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 2: to record, I remember just thinking, like, it's fucking pretty cool. 1220 01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 2: I was just like looking at all these people in 1221 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,200 Speaker 2: suits flying to Sydney for obviously going to work and stuff, 1222 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:03,160 Speaker 2: and I was like, it's pretty cool. 1223 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 1: Like what we do it is, it's very cool. Yeah, 1224 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 1: so we think all the baddis listening. We'll hopefully going 1225 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 1: to the moon. That's how old saying. Yeah, and you're 1226 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 1: coming with us, and we wouldn't be here without you guys, 1227 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, look, tell a friend to tell 1228 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 1: a friend about the pod do Yeah, it would it 1229 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,520 Speaker 1: would obviously help out so much. We want to. 1230 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 2: Well, we're like stretching into the time on the episode 1231 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 2: a bit. I may as well say if you're still here, obviously, 1232 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 2: thank you for listening this far. And we've got Patreon, 1233 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 2: go sign up, use the link of the description. And 1234 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 2: then one more thing was we want to do events 1235 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,120 Speaker 2: this year. We did one for the Housemaid, the premiere 1236 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,480 Speaker 2: of the Housemaid or like the advanced screening of the Housemaid, 1237 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 2: but I want to I want to do like fun events. Yeah, yeah, 1238 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,440 Speaker 2: So I just wanted to kind of put that out 1239 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:46,960 Speaker 2: there and just see what everyone thinks, like, get the 1240 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 2: community built. 1241 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 1: I like it. I love it. Time for comments, batties. 1242 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 1: If you want to get a comment read, simply comment 1243 01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 1: on the episode you are listening to. I haven't up 1244 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 1: eight Steph Price Update boys in Bracket's Ocean Alley Dilemma. 1245 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,080 Speaker 1: I ended it and told him I'll transfer him the 1246 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,040 Speaker 1: money for the ticket. He transferred it to me straight away. 1247 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 1: I blocked him immediately and brought a and brought a 1248 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 1: friend FYI. Then new album Slaps, Oh Let's go. 1249 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,840 Speaker 4: That was the advice we gave listen to us. 1250 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I got it from A Dilemma's episode. Dilemas 1251 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:29,200 Speaker 1: episode It's called Toxic Scarlet priv six eight seventy one 1252 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 1: on YouTube. Set I was being in my in quotes 1253 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 1: being honest era, and I was too honest and basically 1254 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 1: told my ex that I wasn't sexually attracted him during 1255 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 1: attracted to him during our weekend away. He still wanted 1256 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 1: to stay together. Bless him. He was a good guy 1257 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,920 Speaker 1: and didn't deserve that. Bless him. I could never hear that. Blessing. 1258 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,280 Speaker 2: I am like all for honesty, right, but I also 1259 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 2: think like if the truth is gonna hurt someone where 1260 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 2: it's like, let's say. 1261 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,600 Speaker 1: I don't know anything, Like I don't know you think 1262 01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 1: I have a big forehead. 1263 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's obviously gonna hurt my feelings, Like I would 1264 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 2: assume that I know I have a big forehead. 1265 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not going to fucking be like you have 1266 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:06,880 Speaker 1: a huge forehead. And I'm like, what the hell that's mean? 1267 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,720 Speaker 1: Like I'm being honest to be honest, Like you're not 1268 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 1: gonna like I think honestly has the time of the play. 1269 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 1: So I should just like hand you a headband instead 1270 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,440 Speaker 1: of saying anything, so you need this. Yeah, and then 1271 01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 1: she should just break up of him without saying any 1272 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 1: reason why. 1273 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if she's not attraction, should just be like 1274 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:22,600 Speaker 2: I don't want to be with you anymore. 1275 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. I don't know bad is It's 1276 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 1: time for one of you to sign off the episode. 1277 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:31,160 Speaker 1: The link will be in the description Jake, Yes, who 1278 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 1: are we gonna call? Maddie? 1279 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,000 Speaker 5: Hello, Maddie speaking. 1280 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,240 Speaker 1: Hi Maddie. This is Jake and not from the relatables. 1281 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:38,720 Speaker 1: How are you? 1282 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 4: Oh good? 1283 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 1: How are you? Very good? Very good? 1284 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,320 Speaker 5: Oh my god, I was not expressing this call all good. 1285 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 1: All good. We thought we here up on a Saturday. 1286 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 1: Keep the baddies on their finished. The stars have aligne 1287 01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 1: it was meant to be. 1288 01:03:58,360 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1289 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 2: Well, yes, we would like to ask you if you 1290 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,360 Speaker 2: could sign off the episode for us. 1291 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 5: Yes, I love to do that. I would like to 1292 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,800 Speaker 5: say that something that has always stuck with me is 1293 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 5: that some people are in your life for a few weeks, 1294 01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,120 Speaker 5: some people are in your life for a few months. 1295 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,440 Speaker 5: Some people are in your life for a few years 1296 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 5: or forever. But it's always for a reason. So if 1297 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,680 Speaker 5: a friendship ends, or if a relationship ends, you always 1298 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 5: learn something from it, and it's always for a reason. 1299 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 1: I like that. I like that, And Mattie, can I 1300 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 1: ask you one final question? Yes, if you break up 1301 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:42,280 Speaker 1: with someone, should you keep photos of them. 1302 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm guilty of doing it. 1303 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,040 Speaker 1: Okay, that's okay. Do you have a reason for it? 1304 01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,919 Speaker 5: I just I think the reason why I only keep 1305 01:04:53,960 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 5: the really special ones because it's the relationship ends. Like again, 1306 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,320 Speaker 5: they were there for a reason. You know, there's no 1307 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 5: reason why you should be deleting them out of your 1308 01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 5: life completely, like you know they have a special place 1309 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:09,320 Speaker 5: in your heart and another what. 1310 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,160 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll take that as an answer. 1311 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,400 Speaker 2: When this episode comes out, you will see how we 1312 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,280 Speaker 2: feel about keeping photos before we call you. 1313 01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:17,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to. 1314 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:20,960 Speaker 5: I'm so excited. I'm not to go. 1315 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for it. I think in like two weeks 1316 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,280 Speaker 1: you'll be able to hear it's coming out. 1317 01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,000 Speaker 5: Early on the Patreol. 1318 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:33,640 Speaker 1: Said it to you personally. 1319 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:38,560 Speaker 5: You know, well, thank you so much for the call. 1320 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, stay bad bye bye. Never had I 1321 01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,720 Speaker 1: never had a baddie in the call on us. Yeah, 1322 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:49,280 Speaker 1: I was thinking my head, Okay, where have you got 1323 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,200 Speaker 1: to be? Are you busy? You said you're done work, 1324 01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 1: you don't have time for us. Always loves to have 1325 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,440 Speaker 1: the final say you do. I just like to be 1326 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:00,880 Speaker 1: the one to be like, well, we called you so 1327 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,680 Speaker 1: We'll end it like you're your dad's son, the center 1328 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:07,959 Speaker 1: of attention. She was good. I put on the spot too. Yeah, 1329 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,080 Speaker 1: she didn't even blink. Bad. We love You'll stay bad.