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Speaker 1: The Thursday night pressure Cooker, longtime colleagues Ken Hinckley and

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Speaker 1: Michael Voss pitched in a high stakes clash of Adelaideovaal.

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Speaker 2: Inside the cauldron, Simo and Horse walked the most difficult

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Speaker 2: of weeks in the shoes of the Carlton coach.

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Speaker 1: And repairing on the run, Simon Goodwin. That joins us

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Speaker 1: off the buy as the demon search for that elusive connection.

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Speaker 2: We talked about. Is this step into it, embrace all

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Speaker 2: of it in the room and print it.

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Speaker 1: It's unedifying for a senior coach to do that.

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Speaker 2: They're on the side of Courtia with the brain cape

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Speaker 2: the man on.

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Speaker 1: They played the best footy I've ever seen at the

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Speaker 1: start of the season and President left the couple. Alder said,

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Speaker 1: of course they do. Is the stuff that legends are

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Speaker 1: made of.

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Speaker 2: What is holding the ball?

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Speaker 3: I don't think I could answer it clearly right now

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Speaker 3: that I can do something wrong.

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Speaker 1: You know, and I need to get and the board.

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Speaker 2: Sextually the fans lover and with no fans no through

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Speaker 2: sixty year old.

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Speaker 1: The angles of round sixteen coming to focus scats. Did

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Speaker 1: we manage to get anyone into trouble today?

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Speaker 2: Not as yet, Jared, but it's tonight. It's only young only.

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Speaker 2: I've got a few to roll through here, so and

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Speaker 2: they've got plenty of money to the blokes in the company,

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Speaker 2: so we want to get a bit.

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Speaker 1: Out of them, all right. So Simo and Horse here

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Speaker 1: walking the week in Michael Voss's shoes and just the

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Speaker 1: intense scrutiny. Simon Goridwin's off the buy and the teams

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Speaker 1: are in there. Everyone's been dropped. There's four gone from

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Speaker 1: each team, Port Adelaide and Carlton as they look to

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Speaker 1: change their mix and alter their fortunes. And then immediately

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Speaker 1: after ours first Crack preview, Ben Dixon with Lee Montagna

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Speaker 1: and David King. It's been quite elaborate next door, so

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Speaker 1: very busy.

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Speaker 2: What goes to it is a mass watch. I saw

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Speaker 2: Whinny strolling on the Yeah coronals as well, So must

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Speaker 2: watch first Crack okay, and then tonight first ball at midnight.

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Speaker 1: Coverage starts at quarter to twelve on ESPN from Barbados.

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Speaker 1: Not the first ball you'll be up at for that

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Speaker 1: up early. My dream is to wake up and Sam

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Speaker 1: Constance is sixty five not out, and just guide him

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Speaker 1: through to his maiden.

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Speaker 2: Test, not the dream I have jured berg for you.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough. Wednesday D Day for Aussie brought well.

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Speaker 2: This one for me is the Kangaroos. Now, this is

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Speaker 2: how you build a football club on the back of responses, right,

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Speaker 2: So you build trust and you build a bond that

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Speaker 2: all defines the great teams. Now they were embarrassed and

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Speaker 2: good Friday by Carlton. The response was emphatic and it

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Speaker 2: was great and it was the build and the makings

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Speaker 2: of a footy club. Around twenty four last year, down

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Speaker 2: at Lonceston they played the Hawthorn Footy Club and lost

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Speaker 2: by one hundred and twenty four points. Year it was embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: It was a horrible way to finish the season and

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Speaker 2: they had delivered that for six months. They go back

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Speaker 2: to Lonceston and play hawth On again this weekend and

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Speaker 2: they know it's the coach's former team, they know that

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Speaker 2: there's been some history there. You want to build a

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Speaker 2: bond with your coach that's unbreakable, then go out and

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Speaker 2: perform and be Hawthor at lon sst and turn the

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty four point deficit around as you

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Speaker 2: did last week on the back of a horrid good Friday,

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Speaker 2: so we're all watching Kangaroos get to it.

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Speaker 1: I like it. That's live and exclusive here on Fox

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Speaker 1: Footy at four o'clock on Superty Saturday. I'll go the

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Speaker 1: Dogs Friday. Not on two fronts. They've got their place

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Speaker 1: in the eighth so it's theirs to defend and to

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Speaker 1: rise up. And they're the first team in contention that's

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Speaker 1: going to face the Sydney side that it is suddenly

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Speaker 1: restocked and you just look at him a little bit

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Speaker 1: differently at the moment, and it's Marcus Bontonpelli's two hundred

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Speaker 1: and fiftieth game. So we reveled last week in Patrick Dangerfield,

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Speaker 1: who is in his eighteenth season. Once in his twelfth season,

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Speaker 1: he's only twenty nine. He is still the ruling force

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Speaker 1: in the game. For everyone who's got statements around it,

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Speaker 1: this is the best player in the game. His CV

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Speaker 1: sixth best and fairs six all Australians, twice, runner up

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Speaker 1: in the Brownlow, twice, the MVP, once the Coach's Association Award.

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Speaker 1: He is a Premiership player, but he's still only in

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Speaker 1: the middle stages of his career as he reaches two

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty so we glory in what he's done

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Speaker 1: and then what might come next. And for Bulldogs fans,

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Speaker 1: there's a line of merchandise that's been produced from the

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Speaker 1: clean shaven young lad who started to the dodgy beard

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Speaker 1: that he's sported along the way.

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Speaker 2: Couple different look, couple different hairstyff I'm going to get

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Speaker 2: one of those Bond.

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Speaker 1: Shirts, Scars hoodies, T shirts all there to revelent.

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Speaker 2: It's a big test for them too, because they are

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Speaker 2: very much aside. They've played twice with Bonton, Pelli and

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Speaker 2: Darcy in the side from start to finish and the

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Speaker 2: average margin seventy three points.

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, they marched into city down the Swans

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Speaker 1: were a better side and thrash them there. So we'll

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Speaker 1: see you on Friday nights. Let's get into it at

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Speaker 1: the top of the agenda. Where does the round commence? Well,

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Speaker 1: that's in Adelaide tomorrow night. It is a pressure cooker environment.

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Speaker 1: Carlton off the short sharp break with a lot of

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Speaker 1: short sharp material coming their way as they face up

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Speaker 1: to Port Adelaide.

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Speaker 3: What are you doing if your Michael boss panicking?

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Speaker 2: What's happened to my proud club?

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Speaker 1: Where's the fight.

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Speaker 2: They're not being Carlton.

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Speaker 1: The club is overly emotional, bordering on destructive.

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Speaker 2: There needs to be change.

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Speaker 3: We're all about the players and coaches, but I think

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Speaker 3: this is a change that needs to happen, and I

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Speaker 3: think it needs to happen ASoP.

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Speaker 2: If they don't think that vosses them in as they've

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Speaker 2: done before, they'll rip the bandbot off. You can lean

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Speaker 4: My belief right now is that is starting to happen.

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Speaker 1: He needs a miracle right now.

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Speaker 3: It's we didn't really have enough time to delve into

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Speaker 3: the game it's entirety, and that's sort of one of

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Speaker 3: those weeks. We've got to move forward pretty quick. So

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Speaker 3: we felt like we touched on the most important things

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Speaker 3: and now we've got to be able to fix your

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Speaker 1: Some sympathy for what it was and the He's under

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Michael knows what the industry is like, and we

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Speaker 4: both know and everyone who's in this game. No, you

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Speaker 4: and you've got to do your job. It's hard not

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Speaker 3: Have you spoken to Graham Bryan or the Water that

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Speaker 4: we haven't had the most consistencies and that.

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Speaker 3: We would expect speculation about what's happening or what is happening.

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Speaker 3: some of the other things we've been doing a lot

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Speaker 4: We're no different to Carlton, and I'm sure they're trying

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Speaker 4: So it's a damned tough competition. You don't get to

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Speaker 1: A night of fierce pressure and impending consequence. It's the

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Speaker 1: six and eight bracket, it's tenth versus twelfth. Realistically, gaz

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Speaker 1: one of these teams would have to go eight and

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Speaker 1: So that's not really the story, although if we did

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Speaker 1: have they done? At selection? There are moves to be

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Speaker 1: made and four have been dropped. On either side of it.

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Speaker 1: Porter Lear's back from injury, Evans Jackson's going to play

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Speaker 1: his fourth game and Travis Bok who's bus far been

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Speaker 2: had nine in touches last week, sixth and seventh debutante

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Speaker 2: the young kids. It gives everyone a bit of a lift,

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Speaker 2: but it won't be the answer that therein won't be

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Speaker 2: the fix to the problem. The fix of the problem

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Speaker 2: will lie with their leaders, as it always does. And

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Speaker 2: why you're put into that exalted position, and the fixation

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Speaker 2: on the victory can't be the priority, Jarrett. It's not

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Speaker 2: about whether you win or lose, as crazy as that sounds.

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Speaker 2: It's about the effort and then the system that they

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Speaker 2: they control effort within so the coach can say, try harder,

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Speaker 2: be doing is watching effort from a Carlton point of view.

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Speaker 2: They're going to continue to put their eggs in the

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Speaker 2: back that in which hasn't worked that well for them,

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Speaker 2: it's morbidly interesting tomorrow and on yes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is so. I Voss faced all those questions

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Speaker 1: today as you must in need circumstances, but on a

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Speaker 1: five day turnaround where he can see that there really

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Speaker 1: hadn't even been time to review the game, and it's

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Speaker 1: entirely they just sort of picked the moments of most

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Speaker 1: time to indulge any of that this week to contemplate it.

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Speaker 1: So he quite rightly has shut it down in the

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Speaker 1: post match and shut it down again today, and that

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Speaker 1: does it magnifies what the response looks like. Is this

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Speaker 1: a team that is beaten down and broken or as

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Speaker 1: a team that's going to rise up and make amends

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Speaker 1: for its performance last week?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that can happen as we saw within the

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Speaker 2: four quarters, yes, or it can happen week to week.

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Speaker 2: And I would be They've been in this position before,

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Speaker 2: We've talked about them in this partless position before, and

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Speaker 2: they found a way to get themselves back competitive. Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm not holding out enormous hope for the fact that

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Speaker 2: Carlton will win tomorrow night. But I reckon there'll be

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Speaker 2: a response from effort. And if there's not, with all

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Speaker 2: the speculation through the week, and we know we're not

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Speaker 2: in the business second coaches, but there are plenty out

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Speaker 2: there that want to. If there's not a response from

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Speaker 2: And yeah, he got a response a three quarter time.

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Speaker 2: it was finally was a wake up that he was

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Speaker 2: if you don't get a response in effort, which will

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Speaker 2: be evident for everyone to see, well then those that

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Speaker 2: this is where it's at.

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Speaker 1: Effort is sort of the bare minimum, isn't it, And

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Speaker 1: And it's been evident every now and then, but only

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we don't we that a lot in footy

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Speaker 2: play with some dare and flare. So exactly, let's see

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Speaker 2: that from the first bound. So in my mind takes

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Speaker 2: I can't recall. I think there's a Port Adelaide game

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Speaker 2: the Crips at three quarter time lifted them across the line.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so when we talk about effort and then

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Speaker 2: we're looking at Wienering Cryps, Kerno McGovern acres. Well, look

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Speaker 2: that's exactly where we're looking. So the other guys who

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Speaker 2: make it so from a senior point of view, and.

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Speaker 1: Port Adelaide have fluctuated all year, haven't they. They put

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Speaker 2: gain And there's enough there's enough talent in that put

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Speaker 2: Audelaide's side for them to make it really difficult for Carlton,

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Speaker 2: I would think. But we're not sure which one's going

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Speaker 2: to turn up.

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Speaker 1: So no Wines for the time man, and Lacocius is

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Speaker 1: making his return in the sanfl so they might get

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Speaker 1: setup for Thursday night foot here, which we'll see right

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Speaker 1: here on Fox. Simon Goodwin. He's got his team heading

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Speaker 1: for the Gold Coast, so we pick up our fortnightly

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Speaker 1: conversations on the other side of the buy. How is

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Speaker 1: the breather and what has been attempted on the fix space?

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Speaker 2: Couldn't I feel safe?

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Speaker 1: Could see me on the floor