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Speaker 2: We are And you know what, I am never short

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Speaker 3: This is serious though.

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Speaker 1: They are recruiting as well. Remember whether it's Dogs, Squad,

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Speaker 1: These are the boys that are not here to muck around.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, look at the outfits.

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Speaker 3: They're not.

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Speaker 1: Good morning.

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Speaker 3: They're not costumes, I said, uniforms, uniforms. We have team

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Speaker 3: leading morning guy.

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Speaker 1: Ben from the Special Operations Group joining us this morning. Morning.

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Speaker 1: Betty's just taken off the helmet. Morning Ben, I'll get

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having us Morning Ben.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'll be honest, I've been trying you're scary looking.

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Speaker 1: I know. I was going to say, I've been trying

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Speaker 2: You guys are some of the most serious within the

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Speaker 2: Victorian Police. But when we were talking about having you in,

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Speaker 2: I said to Jason, I'm sure they're all just big

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Speaker 2: teddy bears inside and Jace got to meet you before

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Speaker 3: Was like, you know what was I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you're right about being teddy bears. These guys are tough.

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Speaker 1: How long have you been doing big soft?

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Speaker 3: Is it hurt?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 4: Jace did try and walk in while I was getting dressed,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was my bad. How long you've been in

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Speaker 4: I've been in for fifteen years in the Priest Force,

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Speaker 4: and I've been at the Special Operations Group for eight years?

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Speaker 1: Right? How many years would someone normally be in the

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Speaker 4: Look, it really varies. Historically we probably wanted more experienced

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Right.

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Speaker 2: And then for those of us who aren't really familiar,

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Speaker 2: which is probably a good thing with a special Operations group,

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Speaker 2: what exactly do you guys do? Well?

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Speaker 4: I heard you guys use the example before about the SWAT,

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Speaker 4: The SOG is classified as a police tactical group. Every

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: So look, we thankfully that stuff doesn't happen every day

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Speaker 1: So let's say, is there a lot.

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Speaker 2: More of that happening than we actually hear about, like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. Look, we arrest over two hundred

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Speaker 1: So if I hypothetical I try and pull off a

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Speaker 4: Hopefully you in the CS but we'd be there.

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Speaker 1: See how frightening that is? Jesus? So can I imagine

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Speaker 4: We've got a tactical canine, handlers, breaches and meetings, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Ben, You've got something like this very calm

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Speaker 1: But so, for example, you know, when like your udo

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I was just going to ask massive story, obviously

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Speaker 3: How the hell did that guy get on the roof

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Speaker 2: Because looking at you, Ben, you would have spotted him.

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Speaker 4: Well, America is a different beast. We trained for every

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Speaker 4: worst possible situation, obviously, but I've got a huge amount

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Speaker 2: The crazy, crazy training and pressure tests you guys have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I commend you guys for the job you do,

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Speaker 4: I've got a young family, yeah, and I suppose I

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Speaker 2: Because are you allowed to talk about what happens in

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's what it's.

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Speaker 2: And so you guys must hold because there's so much

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Speaker 3: Is that is that tricky?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, we do we're not allowed to share a

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at all the gear you're carrying on you.

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Speaker 1: It's very different to the walky talkies I got from

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So obviously we carry firearms. There's no secret. You

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Speaker 1: Yeah, song just started. You can pause to I'm not

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Speaker 1: I'm not wrapping. You can stay on the air for

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we kerry, Spira ammunition, a taser, some stun grenades,

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Speaker 1: So I've seen and bear with me. I was watching

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Speaker 4: They're louder than you can ever imagine. Yeah right, they're

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Speaker 4: I know you were involved in a very famous case

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Speaker 1: Two young children being kidnapped. It's a full on story.

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Speaker 1: We're going to come back and chat about that, but

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Speaker 1: just to go into the song, I've got something if

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what. I'm not sure what you guys

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Speaker 1: use as target practice? Can we bring in the oversize?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, bring in bring in the target suggestion.

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Speaker 1: So Clint has just done a photo shoot for Men's

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Speaker 3: Now do you wreckon yours?

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Speaker 1: It has isn't it?

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Speaker 3: Hasn't it? Dreking? Your snipers could shoot those abs off

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Speaker 4: That's as dream.

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Speaker 1: Right there, we are on the air or with the

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Speaker 1: Victorian Police this morning. The SOG boys are in the

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Speaker 3: Tell me what's you know?

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Speaker 1: My favorite segment. Every couple of weeks we get a

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Speaker 1: hostage negotiations, terror stramas.

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Speaker 4: No, not in our units. So we work closely with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, interesting.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, it's just gonna say I've seen Lauren in full

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Speaker 1: flight up against her partner and she would be a

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Speaker 1: very good weapon for the Victorian police.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, one gets away from me.

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Speaker 4: There's definitely some untap skills out there.

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Speaker 3: Bench just quickly.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever get scared? Has anything ever frightened you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you probably get a little bit caught up in

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Speaker 4: just react normally like every other person. We're not immune

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Speaker 1: But if the moment comes and you get the green

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Speaker 1: I can't say take It's what I said before. Mate.

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Speaker 1: They will take you out and go and get some nuggets.

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Speaker 1: That's what they do.

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Speaker 4: Hey.

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Speaker 1: There was a famous story in the news in twenty

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Speaker 5: He went to the family home in Melbourne's eastern suburbs

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Speaker 5: and waited for his expos to leave before breaking in.

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Speaker 5: Armed with a knife. He bound and gagged his wife

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Speaker 5: and two kids, age three and five, before kidnapping the

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Speaker 5: children for eleven hours.

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Speaker 1: And you were part of the crew that was responsible

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll always remember that job. It will stick with

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Speaker 4: we wanted. But yeah, certainly pretty tense, tense day in Melbourne.

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Speaker 1: That was so he'd stormed in and taken the kid's hostage.

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Speaker 1: And did he have a weapon?

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Speaker 2: Yeah he did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So the actual kidnapping, I won't go into too much,

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Speaker 4: from the outset that it was a serious job, a kidnapping,

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Speaker 1: So just on that, like say, if it's a hostage situation,

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Speaker 1: sometimes we're just like just bloody, go in and get them.

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Speaker 1: Is there a time period?

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Speaker 4: Not necessarily. Look, there's certain times where the hostage take

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Speaker 4: will do something that forces us to act, but we'll

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Speaker 4: always approach something from a negotiation, you know, safety first

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Speaker 4: point of view. We at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: we want everyone just to come out peacefully in a life.

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Speaker 4: But make no mistake, we're ready to go if it

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Speaker 2: I mean, you guys do such an amazing job in

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Speaker 2: can do it? Because it must be so stressful. Do

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Speaker 2: people only last in this job for a certain amount

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Speaker 4: It really varies. Like I've been doing it eight years,

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Speaker 4: as I said before, that you can go away from

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Speaker 4: invest in away from work, because, like you're saying, laws,

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Speaker 4: if you just commit to work one hundred percent of

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Speaker 1: But let's be honest, from a fitness level, there's no

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Speaker 1: senior Sergeant Tom Croydon part of the SG squad is there.

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Speaker 1: He may have been in a previous lot. Now he's

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Speaker 1: got a desk job. Because there's some chubby cops out there.

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Speaker 1: I've seen him and I can say, because.

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Speaker 3: I am, they're not doing this job.

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Speaker 1: No, no, they are not doing this job. Well, can

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Speaker 1: we just say thank you for the work you do honestly?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's so brave.

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Speaker 1: Will you guys be traveling into State when the Olympics

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Speaker 1: are on the games? Yeah, we do.

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Speaker 4: We help our inter state counterparts with major events like that.

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Speaker 4: So they've come down and traveled and helped us before

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Speaker 4: with recent events, and hopefully we'll be able to support

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Speaker 1: And just finally, this is just for the police. Nerd

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Speaker 1: in me. What vehicles do you guys get around here?

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Speaker 1: Can you say?

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Speaker 4: I'll say full drives.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you should be in a tank in

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Speaker 4: We've got armored vehicles. We've got we've got some armored vehicles.

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Speaker 1: What's the name of the big armored beer catt.

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Speaker 3: That you look like a bear cat? Guy, Ben? In

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Speaker 3: that outfit a manual job.

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Speaker 4: It's a auto, it is, and it's it's left hands

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Speaker 4: steer as well because a big American company Lenko.

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Speaker 1: Heated seats.

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Speaker 4: No, no heated seats.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Chase, can it? Does it fit through

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Speaker 2: the drive through? That'll be his next question, does.

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Speaker 1: It fit through the drive.

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 1: Look, Ben and the crew from the Special Operations Group,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming in. Boys. We really

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Speaker 1: appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: And thank you for everything that you do to keep

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Speaker 2: us safe. You guys do an amazing job. We love

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Speaker 2: the Victorian Police.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you don't see this through a scope anytime soon.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having USC on your mate.

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Speaker 2: Lauren wake up feeling good on over one hundred Jason

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Speaker 2: Lauren Bollyoom on socials