Speaker 1: I got team.
Speaker 2: Welcome to another bloody episode of the Bloody You Project.
Speaker 2: It's bloody Doctor Cam and bloody Doctor Tiff, just chiming
Speaker 2: in from all around different parts of the globe. Tiff
Speaker 2: is doing some allegedly some home improvements which are not
Speaker 2: working out or office improvements which aren't working out that well.
Speaker 2: So the old financial shortcut didn't really do it, Tiff.
Speaker 3: Well that was quite a while ago. That story that
Speaker 3: smashing the right smashing that, but yes, no true story
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 2: So you accidentally smashed your expensive computer screen.
Speaker 3: Yep, in the rush to set up my bargain standing
Speaker 3: desk that I was excited about.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what happens.
Speaker 2: That's what happens, Doctor Cam from Shay Wellness and other places.
Speaker 4: Hi, Hi Craig, Hi Tiff, Hi are you all right?
Speaker 1: You are right.
Speaker 4: I'm actually better I've ever been. I'm on I'm on
Speaker 4: top level at the moment.
Speaker 1: Why is that tell us, grasshopper.
Speaker 4: I went to Bali for a specific intention of some big,
Speaker 4: deep dark subconscious clearing MM and found some hefty nuggets
Speaker 4: and released them. I'm life has a different lens.
Speaker 5: It's great.
Speaker 4: We're getting too much detailed to day I know we've
Speaker 4: got stuff on, but it's.
Speaker 1: Not I'm happy to go wherever.
Speaker 2: What a subconscious clearing mean in the world of Doctor
Speaker 2: cam and for all us non GENIEI, what is that?
Speaker 4: Well, it's a bit more to it than that, but
Speaker 4: essentially it's a it's an environment you turn up in
Speaker 4: like the way that it's run. You turn up where
Speaker 4: you're eating exactly the food that's right for you, you're
Speaker 4: doing the right kind of exercise for you, you're running
Speaker 4: the rhythms of your day the way supposed to. And
Speaker 4: then based on your history and all that sort of
Speaker 4: stuff and a number of consultations you have at the beginning,
Speaker 4: they kind of get a bit of an idea of like,
Speaker 4: what are the things that are holding you back on
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of different levels. And so then for
Speaker 4: seven days it was four to five sessions per day
Speaker 4: on identifying these emotional blocks. So subconscious in this could
Speaker 4: be a memory from my childhood of Mum and Dad
Speaker 4: having an argument about how they're going to parent me.
Speaker 4: Mum wanting to hold the rules, Dad wanting to go
Speaker 4: in with love. And as I go back and remember that,
Speaker 4: it transforms into this, Oh Mum just preferred rules over kids,
Speaker 4: and if you are too loving, then it's you're going
Speaker 4: to have some sort of conflict. There's going to be
Speaker 4: resistance to the love. And so there's lots of different examples,
Speaker 4: and we go through a whole lot of different things
Speaker 4: as we go, but essentially you go back and you
Speaker 4: dig down into those things and it turns out that
Speaker 4: and I thought I was pretty good emotionally intelligent, but
Speaker 4: just my ability to feel was virtually zero. I was
Speaker 4: just holding it all as a cognitive exercise in my head,
Speaker 4: and so just creating a safe environment where I could
Speaker 4: go into start feeling those things. And there was a
Speaker 4: big nugget of lack of worth, unlovability, fear of failure,
Speaker 4: and I think they're very very common to a lot
Speaker 4: of people. Not everyone hasn't. But on day six, I
Speaker 4: had like one of the most intense days of my life,
Speaker 4: just sort of exercising demons with what it felt like
Speaker 4: like just the.
Speaker 5: Amount of emotion that was coming out.
Speaker 4: And life is very, very very different. On the other side,
Speaker 4: it's like I don't have that nagging little voice of
Speaker 4: that I think, so it's like there's just no voice. Now,
Speaker 4: there's like a memory of the voice, but there's no voice.
Speaker 4: It's so fascinating and empowering and awesome. So it's been
Speaker 4: a pretty spectacular couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for sharing that. I love that
Speaker 1: people like you who are.
Speaker 2: Leaders and educators and very qualified and PhD and in
Speaker 2: your space of whatever we want to call it, personalized health.
Speaker 2: I guess like you're a pioneer. But it's great for
Speaker 2: it's great for us to by us, I mean everyone
Speaker 2: who's listening to you, me, TIF and our audience to go. Oh,
Speaker 2: doctor Cam's got bullshit as well. Doctor Cam's a bit
Speaker 2: fucked up like me. Oh, I like him more. I
Speaker 2: relate to him more. And he's working on his bullshit
Speaker 2: and he's working. It's not bullshit but his issues, his challenges,
Speaker 2: his subconscious blocks. I think that's a really a reasonably
Speaker 2: rare kind of thing in experts to actually go even
Speaker 2: though I am where I am in my career, I'm
Speaker 2: pretty far down the tunnel.
Speaker 1: I'm going okay.
Speaker 2: I've got a pretty good brand and business and I'm
Speaker 2: respected and well known, but also still very and very
Speaker 2: much a work in progress. Are you comfortable in the
Speaker 2: middle of all of that?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, but probably this is what's so fascinating. I Mean,
Speaker 4: when I was growing up, my mum owned a healing center.
Speaker 4: We were going to healing, feeling workshops and emotional release stuff.
Speaker 4: Since I was like eleven to fifteen, Like every weekend
Speaker 4: I was home on the holidays, we'd be going along there.
Speaker 4: So that's always been part of it. But what's so
Speaker 4: fascinating about the self work piece and how it played
Speaker 4: out for me is that I would always have this
Speaker 4: belief that there's always something to fix. And so while
Speaker 4: that mindset of like I can go and improve something
Speaker 4: is there, it's shrouded in failure and lack of enoughness.
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, I've always got something to fix. I'm
Speaker 4: never okay, you know. So the space of being a
Speaker 4: work in progress is something that has always been fine,
Speaker 4: But I've been a real victim to the other stuff
Speaker 4: that played into that as well. So yeah, that's whereas
Speaker 4: now I feel like, oh, I'm really excited about knowing
Speaker 4: more of who I am without all of the various
Speaker 4: voices that we have in our space. I'm really excited
Speaker 4: to know more about that and to grow into it,
Speaker 4: rather than I've got to fix myself. So It's been
Speaker 4: a really interesting shift that way.
Speaker 2: The whole who am I? You know, the identity piece
Speaker 2: which comes up in theology and philosophy and psychology and Stoicism,
Speaker 2: and you know, I like to know thyself, like the
Speaker 2: beginning of wisdom is to know thy self, Socrates. My
Speaker 2: PhD is in self awareness, all of that, like self
Speaker 2: knowledge intersex with that. Why is it such a hard
Speaker 2: thing you? And again everyone, this is just three people chatting.
Speaker 2: This is not personal advice. Why do you reckon? It's
Speaker 2: so hard to figure out who the fuck we are?
Speaker 2: Is that because our identity is tied into things that
Speaker 2: we're not.
Speaker 4: I think there's no This is some of the stuff
Speaker 4: we're doing education in schools about right now, but we're
Speaker 4: right at the start of it. But there's no formal
Speaker 4: education of how do you know who you are?
Speaker 5: Internally?
Speaker 4: Because even the way that they do identity in schools,
Speaker 4: it's like what's my family, Like I'm a brother, whatever,
Speaker 4: I'm a this. Some of that it's very externally oriented
Speaker 4: and back into you rather than I have a deeper
Speaker 4: understanding of me. And not only that, so we're not
Speaker 4: taught to really introspect powerfully. The second thing is that
Speaker 4: we are marking ourselves off other people who are biologically
Speaker 4: different to us, and that drives differences in our personality.
Speaker 4: So we're looking at other people thinking, oh, I like them, Well,
Speaker 4: why can't I be more like them? When you're different anyway,
Speaker 4: So there's that comparative approach. But then also the thing
Speaker 4: that I discovered, and this was probably the most powerful
Speaker 4: thing that happened on day five is as my Heart
Speaker 4: started cracking open was one of our incredible and she's
Speaker 4: been on your podcast, Tiff and Larsen.
Speaker 5: She introduced this thing called the voice of Gay.
Speaker 4: My mom's name is gay, and she was like, what's
Speaker 4: the voice of gay say when you're sitting at the
Speaker 4: dinner dab with the boys, and the voice of my
Speaker 4: mom says, Oh, you've got to sit up straight, you've
Speaker 4: got to use your knife and fork, you've got to
Speaker 4: eat all your vegetables. You've got to do all of
Speaker 4: these things. And if you don't do that, you fail.
Speaker 4: And then what's the voice of your dad say? It's
Speaker 4: like the food doesn't matter so much, let's just all
Speaker 4: have a nice time. And then what does the voice
Speaker 4: of the dietitian say that I've learned all this knowledge,
Speaker 4: and it's like, oh, well, they've got to have certain
Speaker 4: fibers and this and certain that, and then what is
Speaker 4: all of the self awareness stuff that I know about?
Speaker 4: And that voice is saying, Oh, you've just got to
Speaker 4: be present and you've got to be all of these things.
Speaker 4: And so you end up with they're not even your beliefs.
Speaker 4: There's things that don't belong to you that you've just
Speaker 4: accumulated over time because you've been exposed to them enough.
Speaker 4: And when I got to sit with all of those voices,
Speaker 4: I said, how would I actually run my dinner for
Speaker 4: my family? And literally, like, I'm a dietician. I know
Speaker 4: that health is good, but I'd say I would just
Speaker 4: make the kids race and give them a prize for
Speaker 4: whoever finishes their vegetables in a certain period of time,
Speaker 4: and then I would make two other items that are
Speaker 4: super healthy and happy and we play some sort.
Speaker 5: Of game, because that's the kind of dinner that I
Speaker 5: want to have.
Speaker 4: And that's if I was going to bring them up
Speaker 4: in the way that I actually think is best for them,
Speaker 4: man for everyone. That's my voice. But to the answer
Speaker 4: your question, the reason why it's so hard is because
Speaker 4: I had seventeen other voices that are saying different things,
Speaker 4: and so no matter what I'd do, there's no win.
Speaker 4: And so I can't even find myself in that. And
Speaker 4: that was one tiny little example, just having dinner with
Speaker 4: my kids. It makes it so difficult and unless you're
Speaker 4: ready to go back and unpack all of the things
Speaker 4: that happened between ages zero to seven, which ultimately we
Speaker 4: need to do. But the great thing is that AI
Speaker 4: will eventually be able to help us do that really powerfully.
Speaker 4: Like this is what psychotherapy is all about, is helping
Speaker 4: you go back to those spaces to reimagine those memories,
Speaker 4: to reconstruct them. And while we're over at the retreat,
Speaker 4: we had a personal keynote from Bruce Lipton who was
Speaker 4: talking about the quantum field that is generated from your
Speaker 4: subconscious and ninety five percent of your reality is coming
Speaker 4: from your subconscious projection because the only thing that governs
Speaker 4: matter is the quantum field that surrounds it. This is
Speaker 4: getting into a bit of count. We won't get into
Speaker 4: a two day but essentially, if you've got a belief
Speaker 4: of I'm not enough that has a particular frequency, and
Speaker 4: just like if you hit a tuning fork, that frequency
Speaker 4: goes out, it'll find something that it resonates on the
Speaker 4: same level with, and it makes that thing resonate, and
Speaker 4: then that resonation sends back a message to the part
Speaker 4: of you that's holding that frequency, and then you see it,
Speaker 4: and so your reality is just created. You just keep
Speaker 4: resonating with all of the stuff that's happening sitting here,
Speaker 4: and you're subconscious. And this is why people can just
Speaker 4: keep going in loops and loops and loops with the
Speaker 4: relationships or money or work or whatever it might be,
Speaker 4: because there's unconscious beliefs that are sitting there that aren't resolved,
Speaker 4: and so they're unconscious because they're not conscious of them.
Speaker 4: So not only do you have everybody else's beliefs, then
Speaker 4: you've got how they've formed in your body. Then you've
Speaker 4: got your own natural impulses. Then you've got the conflict.
Speaker 4: And we don't have a safe environment in our community
Speaker 4: where we can actually work that through because you can't
Speaker 4: heal when you're in stress. You can only heal when
Speaker 4: you're feeling safe. Like if you're in stress, you'll compensate
Speaker 4: and you'll block and you'll resist. You have to feel
Speaker 4: very very safe to actually go into a space of
Speaker 4: healing where you can process these things.
Speaker 5: So there's so many.
Speaker 4: Things make it really hard to understand your identity. And
Speaker 4: I feel like I've just got lot more to share
Speaker 4: on that now because I've just lived such an incredible
Speaker 4: insight over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: I love that, Thanks for sharing. It's obviously.
Speaker 2: I think a lot about thinking, you know, that metacognitive
Speaker 2: kind of rabbit hole that we go down, which is
Speaker 2: why do I think the way that I think? And
Speaker 2: why do I have the beliefs that I have? Where
Speaker 2: did they come from? Did I choose them or did
Speaker 2: they choose me? Or did I have them by psychological
Speaker 2: and sociological osmosis, Like just did I inherit them through
Speaker 2: proximity and repetition and programming.
Speaker 1: That I didn't even choose?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 2: And then you wake up and you're like fifteen, and
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I'm a piece of shit, And that's
Speaker 2: a hard wired belief for I'm unathletic, or nobody could
Speaker 2: love me, or I could never make a sporting team
Speaker 2: in my you know, or I'm not smart, or I
Speaker 2: had a lot of really defining powerful belief that I
Speaker 2: didn't choose, and they were powerful in a bad way,
Speaker 2: not a good way, but nonetheless I absolutely believed them
Speaker 2: while never choosing them.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, like.
Speaker 2: Opening the door on that kind of origin story or
Speaker 2: starting to think at least question, you know.
Speaker 1: It's like could I be wrong?
Speaker 2: And one of the challenges is when we have a belief,
Speaker 2: whatever the belief is good or bad, when we have
Speaker 2: a belief that's intertwined with our sense of self, it's
Speaker 2: very hard for anyone else to challenge that belief because
Speaker 2: if you challenge that belief, you're challenging who they.
Speaker 1: Are at their core, or who they believe they are.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So for me, who grew up in a really religious family,
Speaker 2: it was never presented as an option. It was presented
Speaker 2: as the truth, like the unequivocal, the unequivocal, absolute, one
Speaker 2: true path to the divine.
Speaker 1: You're on it, We're on it.
Speaker 2: You're welcome, right, There was no and so you don't know,
Speaker 2: you're fucking seven. You're like, well, of course, I don't know.
Speaker 2: This is how the works. So there's heaven and hell
Speaker 2: and purgatory and eternal damnation and fire and the devil
Speaker 2: and God and Jesus and Apostles and there's all this
Speaker 2: stuff and if I do this, this is the outcome.
Speaker 2: And if I do that, that's the outcome. But nobody's
Speaker 2: presenting these to you as possibilities or ideas or constructs.
Speaker 2: And this happens in all environments at all ages. And
Speaker 2: when you meet somebody who seems smart or you think
Speaker 2: is smart or smarter than you are, believable or trustworthy
Speaker 2: or whatever, and they go, hey, Craig, this is the
Speaker 2: best way to eat.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you why.
Speaker 2: And then now I know the best way to eat
Speaker 2: and there's only one best way because doctor Cam told me,
Speaker 2: and I like him and I trust him. He's a dietitian,
Speaker 2: so this do you know what I mean? And then
Speaker 2: you wake up you're fifty, and you're like, fucking hell,
Speaker 2: where did all.
Speaker 1: This shit come from? Yeah, you know totally, that's a lot.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: But it's like we I don't think we think enough
Speaker 2: about how we think, not what we think, but just
Speaker 2: why do I think the way that I do? Yes,
Speaker 2: because we're so unconsciously driven. And there's like almost this
Speaker 2: little five step thing that I do with people Cam,
Speaker 2: which is self reflections. So we're just trying to just
Speaker 2: think about, you know, not in a self loathing way,
Speaker 2: but in a curiosity way, so self reflection. The next
Speaker 2: one is when we have an awareness or a realization,
Speaker 2: so self awareness and then getting to understand truly who
Speaker 2: we are in the middle of that self knowledge, and
Speaker 2: then self regulation is like, Okay, how do I manage
Speaker 2: me to think better, do better, choose better, and become
Speaker 2: better whatever that means. And then the last one in
Speaker 2: that five step kind of hierarchy is self actualization, which
Speaker 2: is where I feel like you're playing now in that
Speaker 2: space of who am I becoming and who do I
Speaker 2: want to be?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, where is my like what is my true voice?
Speaker 4: And I'd have to say a big part of that
Speaker 4: is that that's been a very cognitive exercise for me,
Speaker 4: and probably the biggest thing that I've learned to value
Speaker 4: is what without sounding too fluffy, but it's actually exactly
Speaker 4: what's going on? What how does my body feel about that?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: And this is where we in our world, we probably
Speaker 4: in our culture particularly, we probably discredit feeling a whole lot.
Speaker 5: More than we do thought.
Speaker 4: And thinking and feeling are obviously two very different things,
Speaker 4: but it was I was holding on with all of
Speaker 4: my thoughts because that's my strength, you know, is to think.
Speaker 4: And it's amazing what difference it does to actually be
Speaker 4: able to feel these things at the same time. And
Speaker 4: I want this thing? What does it actually feel like
Speaker 4: to want that thing? And it it grounds that so
Speaker 4: much more, it makes it so much more tangible for
Speaker 4: me as well.
Speaker 2: So is you is your thinking your strength to be
Speaker 2: able to think or is it your security blanket.
Speaker 1: Because sometimes you've got to get out of thinking.
Speaker 4: Well, I would argue that it's both, and that is it. Ultimately,
Speaker 4: once I'm feeling well, I can then use my thinking
Speaker 4: to direct my feelings really well. But my nervous system
Speaker 4: is set up to do lots of thinking, whereas somebody
Speaker 4: else in my life, maybe a Tiffany Cook is a
Speaker 4: very good feeler, you know, and you're a good feeler too, Harps,
Speaker 4: And it's like and the feelings come out like let's
Speaker 4: say that you have an issue with a course that
Speaker 4: you're in and you have a feeling about it, and
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, I'm really like that feeling is
Speaker 4: not only a protective blanket, but it's also a strength.
Speaker 4: And this is what I saw other people on the
Speaker 4: same retreat were very feeling oriented, and they went straight
Speaker 4: out of their feelings and they had huge emotional releases.
Speaker 4: That took me five days to get there because I
Speaker 4: had to chip away at this brain that is which
Speaker 4: is my strength, but also in this sense, it is
Speaker 4: my security, and it was also my achilles in all
Speaker 4: of those things.
Speaker 2: See, so that's so I mean, talk about awareness do
Speaker 2: that's good, and that's courage, and that's humility, and that's
Speaker 2: you know, vulnerability right there, Like that is so fucking good,
Speaker 2: you know, I wrote it's so funny. I have conversations.
Speaker 2: I guess this is a coincidence. I don't know, but
Speaker 2: I have conversations, and quite often I'll have a conversation
Speaker 2: and three hours before I thought of something or I
Speaker 2: wrote something that totally coincides with what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: And you can't see it because I've got a screen.
Speaker 2: But behind me on my whiteboard, which is going up tonight,
Speaker 2: is a whiteboard post that says your body is the
Speaker 2: ultimate truth teller.
Speaker 4: Oh I love that.
Speaker 1: That's great, you know, it's the ultimate.
Speaker 2: And I wrote something earlier today which will not be
Speaker 2: news to you, but I put it up on LinkedIn
Speaker 2: and this this is very much down your road. But
Speaker 2: the white the whiteboard post is something works for everybody,
Speaker 2: but everything doesn't work for everybody. Find your something right,
Speaker 2: and I wrote, there's no universal best diet, workout, sleep protocol, medication, supplement,
Speaker 2: lifestyle style, or even job. That is, there's no strategy
Speaker 2: or approach that works equally well for everyone, but there
Speaker 2: is a best everything for you as an individual. What
Speaker 2: works optimally for me could be anywhere between mildly effective
Speaker 2: and disastrous for you. My healthy snack could be your
Speaker 2: anaphylactic reaction. My dream career could be your nightmare job.
Speaker 2: The medication that helps me function could give you anxiety.
Speaker 2: Don't confuse advertising with information or truth or pseudo science
Speaker 2: with actual science. And then I finished with that quote.
Speaker 2: I wrote, your body is your greatest teacher and truth teller.
Speaker 2: And I feel like there's so much wisdom in our body.
Speaker 2: You know, so much wisdom, so much insights, so much truth.
Speaker 2: But our mind is like the clown. You know, there's
Speaker 2: so much for me anyway, like my ego, my fear,
Speaker 2: my mind, so much bullshit, my body zero bullshit, yeah, zero,
Speaker 2: just truth and often truth.
Speaker 1: I don't want, by the way, but nonetheless truth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like.
Speaker 2: Telling me, shit, I don't want to hear. So then
Speaker 2: my mind gets online and goes, nah, it's not that
Speaker 2: despite the evidence, your honor.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure I can think through this. Not a problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll just jog it out.
Speaker 2: What's it like for you being the teacher and the
Speaker 2: leader and the you know, the researcher being in those programs,
Speaker 2: a program like that and being a student, uh well
Speaker 2: or our participant or whatever, whatever, I know what you mean.
Speaker 4: Well, interestingly enough, like it was our team that ran
Speaker 4: the retreat and a lot of them sitting around the tables,
Speaker 4: probably twenty people around the table. Half of them I
Speaker 4: introduced to the work and they then went on and
Speaker 4: they're doing all this work now, which is in parallel
Speaker 4: to what we're doing. But I knew I was there
Speaker 4: for a result. I've always been a good student, and
Speaker 4: I was just doing the stuff that I needed to do.
Speaker 4: But what was so fascinating they actually set it up
Speaker 4: to say, look, Cam is going to be here and
Speaker 4: he's going to be struggling through all of this stuff,
Speaker 4: so you need to not be friendly and be laughing
Speaker 4: at his jokes because that's going to flick him into
Speaker 4: his safety mechanism of like, oh, I'm just friends with
Speaker 4: these people, and then you know they're not They're not
Speaker 4: in charge ultimately, so they actually, you know, like the
Speaker 4: six or seven very good friends that I had there
Speaker 4: really held a space of like, I'm not talking. I've
Speaker 4: even reflected with one of the guys, who's my VP
Speaker 4: of OPS, he's.
Speaker 5: I look I look after him.
Speaker 4: He was like every time I saw I had to
Speaker 4: literally walk the other way because I didn't want to
Speaker 4: engage with you as a friend, and I just had
Speaker 4: to keep you in the space of because I was
Speaker 4: really battling for three or four days, I was really resisting,
Speaker 4: I was really trying, but I had no idea how
Speaker 4: to get to this place of feeling, and they really
Speaker 4: had to suspend me in the discomfort of that until
Speaker 4: I got there myself. It was so I get I
Speaker 4: went in pretty focused, but they also really manufactured the
Speaker 4: situation to really support that as well. It was. It
Speaker 4: was brilliantly done.
Speaker 2: And what was the mechanism or the conduit that got
Speaker 2: you to those feelings You.
Speaker 1: Said you were really struggling to get there.
Speaker 4: What all right, okay, these ones definitely didn't think I'd
Speaker 4: be talking about this though publicly, so.
Speaker 1: The how uncomfortable does he look? And how happy am I?
Speaker 4: No, it's great, it's great.
Speaker 1: It's just this episode might be called doctor cam squirmed.
Speaker 4: No, I'm actually really excited to share it.
Speaker 6: I just so the there was a whole lot of
Speaker 6: There's one of our teams, she's called the Excavator and
Speaker 6: essentially she goes in and just digs up subconscious memories.
Speaker 5: And just shows them.
Speaker 4: And she was being really firm with me, and normally
Speaker 4: she's quite friendly, and that was really throwing me off.
Speaker 4: That so her shipping away. There was my head of
Speaker 4: coaching and she's a forty year experienced social mental health worker.
Speaker 4: She's doing the counseling essentially the psychotherapy. She was She
Speaker 4: did a couple of visualizations that helped a few things,
Speaker 4: but just kept working through memories. And then we also
Speaker 4: had this this emotional elevator exercise where I'd be guided
Speaker 4: through this thing of where I'm okay, I'm on the
Speaker 4: level one of the emotions where there's like it's just
Speaker 4: like level one of my emotional body. Great, I'm going
Speaker 4: to go down to the level two. Now, how much
Speaker 4: deeper is that? Feeling? Level three, level four, level five,
Speaker 4: level six. Now, what I discovered about myself in all
Speaker 4: of this is that, and this was really confronting. I
Speaker 4: firstly couldn't feel anger, couldn't feel sadness. The only time
Speaker 4: at the start of the week, the only time that
Speaker 4: they could elicit a feeling out of me was if
Speaker 4: they pinched me really hard. So as I was going
Speaker 4: down the emotional elevator, they caused me physical pain, and
Speaker 4: that would either make me laugh, but then as we
Speaker 4: were trying to go down and deepen the anger, it
Speaker 4: would make me get really angry and start like screaming
Speaker 4: into a pillow essentially. And then they tried to do
Speaker 4: it with sadness, but it didn't work with sadness.
Speaker 5: And so what I discovered, probably.
Speaker 4: By about day five, was that there was a heap
Speaker 4: of anger that I had that was suppressed that I
Speaker 4: hadn't expect because I just control it with my mind
Speaker 4: and control it with either sensible part of me or
Speaker 4: I shouldn't be angry about this, and I've been told
Speaker 4: a few times, but I think there's some angery in you.
Speaker 5: Can I was like, now, I'm good, you know.
Speaker 4: So what I found as we were diving into this
Speaker 4: subconscious stuff and we locked onto a couple of really
Speaker 4: important memories, I found that if I would scream essentially
Speaker 4: repeatedly until I'm out of breath, I would have this
Speaker 4: this moment that would feel like only what an extoricism
Speaker 4: looks like, like I would I would sort of go
Speaker 4: into it like I've never eOne done some shamanic breathing
Speaker 4: where you kind of have those little like like little
Speaker 4: wobbly bits. Anyway, my disorientation. But it was like after that,
Speaker 4: it was like it just my the space in my
Speaker 4: mind would just clear and it just wasn't there. And
Speaker 4: then the next evolution of that into sadness was or
Speaker 4: the anger at myself.
Speaker 5: I was angry at somebody.
Speaker 4: Clear that now I can feel the anger myself expressed
Speaker 4: that And the thing that I'm holding back on but
Speaker 4: I'll share with you is the big one that essentially
Speaker 4: just cut through everything where I literally had a in
Speaker 4: my mind and my body, a life changing experience. We're
Speaker 4: at this place, I can't remember that there's this particular
Speaker 4: there's this particular temple in Bali which all of the
Speaker 4: more alternative therapists and spiritual healers believe is the most
Speaker 4: energetic place on the planet.
Speaker 5: I couldn't really feel it because that was.
Speaker 4: Mean, but everybody else's legs was shaking and vibrating and
Speaker 4: all of those things. I probably spent an hour and
Speaker 4: twenty minutes screaming at the top of my long lungs
Speaker 4: at the stars, like in a battle against these belief systems.
Speaker 5: And I don't know who put that.
Speaker 4: Battle there in my head, but it was like, as
Speaker 4: I was starting to release this emotion, I just said.
Speaker 5: Man, if I don't beat this now, it will have me.
Speaker 4: And it was like it became this non negotiable I've
Speaker 4: got to express everything.
Speaker 5: And I literally went for.
Speaker 4: An hour, an hour and twenty minutes, and I felt
Speaker 4: like I cleared it, and then I felt like, no,
Speaker 4: I've got to like I've got to make sure this
Speaker 4: is gone from the universe. And so I just kept
Speaker 4: going until I like essentially had that experience where I
Speaker 4: got a little bit disoriented and had like a mini
Speaker 4: vision and then I was just there completely wasted, and
Speaker 4: I said to this is without any psychedelics, by the way,
Speaker 4: this is all just this just old fashioned language and
Speaker 4: like I came to and I said, if there's more,
Speaker 4: I'll keep going. Like I was just in this, I
Speaker 4: am not letting this thing beat me today. And that
Speaker 4: was the thing and the facilitator at the end. He's
Speaker 4: the most gifted dude that I know in this space.
Speaker 4: He said, you always had the strength to do that
Speaker 4: that never give up strength, but you needed the competition
Speaker 4: and you needed it to be an internal competition to
Speaker 4: win something, to prove to yourself that you can actually
Speaker 4: own that and harness it going forward. Well, anyway, as
Speaker 4: I'm talking about this, my whole body is a light,
Speaker 4: like it is just the most incredible memory and I
Speaker 4: can just remember that feeling of life, this non negotiable,
Speaker 4: I will not stop, I will not quit. Like it
Speaker 4: was so empowering and I can I'm actually bringing that
Speaker 4: into my life a whole lot more now.
Speaker 5: So it's just that was insane.
Speaker 4: That was a huge, huge day. I was just dripping
Speaker 4: in sweat, like lost my voice. It was insane.
Speaker 2: That's full on, dude, Okay, so much, No, no, man,
Speaker 2: that's I mean, that is like I don't know if
Speaker 2: this is the right question, but I'm going to ask it.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like that was more psychological, more emotional,
Speaker 2: or more spiritual, or none of the above, something else,
Speaker 2: or a combination.
Speaker 4: It's been a combination. We were doing a bunch of
Speaker 4: mind space stuff, we were doing a bunch of feeling stuff,
Speaker 4: and we were working on the energetics of it as well.
Speaker 4: And my experience was very different to other people. Other
Speaker 4: people would just cry hysterically for forty five minutes as
Speaker 4: they're releasing a you know, like a childhood trauma, and
Speaker 4: that would be there and then they'd be good, you know.
Speaker 4: But for whatever reason, I needed to, I needed to
Speaker 4: do it real hard, so the but no, it was
Speaker 4: on all levels and definitely my connection to because I'm
Speaker 4: quite spiritually minded and that I believe we're here with
Speaker 4: a purpose. I believe that we're connected. I believe that
Speaker 4: a whole lot of different things, and I also believe
Speaker 4: in the physical science and how those two things are
Speaker 4: all brought together. But my spiritual purpose is so much
Speaker 4: more palpable now. It was a cognitive exercise for me
Speaker 4: of like, oh, yeah, I'm here because I want to
Speaker 4: eliminate chronic disease and pain by twenty fifty oh one.
Speaker 5: Connected. I want people to feel their best.
Speaker 4: But now I think about my role in that, I
Speaker 4: think about my purpose. I feel my purpose, and it's
Speaker 4: like this heart thumping feeling of holy crap, you are
Speaker 4: here and this is why you're here. Like it's truly a.
Speaker 5: Whole body, a whole.
Speaker 4: Consciousness experience for me. Now, so's it was definitely all levels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you feel like we.
Speaker 2: Have a pre ordained purpose or a like a like
Speaker 2: we're hardwired to be more suited to a particular purpose
Speaker 2: or reason for existing or focus or do you think
Speaker 2: it's something that we choose, something that we grow into
Speaker 2: and something that we develop or both or something I.
Speaker 4: Think it's I think it's a combination of both. And
Speaker 4: what I'll say about that is we are born with
Speaker 4: a particular capacity. So not everyone's going to be Usain Bolt.
Speaker 4: Not everyone's going to be world champion sumer wrestler. Not
Speaker 4: everyone's going to be Tiffany Cook, and so like within
Speaker 4: your genes and the way that your body's developing, and
Speaker 4: that's essentially what we measure, is we measure phenotype. We
Speaker 4: look at how your body has formed, and that body
Speaker 4: has a particular capacity. When we look at your natural
Speaker 4: personality and your natural mental gifts or your ability to
Speaker 4: feel different people have different amounts of capacity, and so
Speaker 4: we've got a capacity that we come in with and
Speaker 4: a potential that we can achieve, and then then we
Speaker 4: get to make choices. But what's interesting about this is
Speaker 4: that when you're making the wrong choices that aren't in
Speaker 4: alignment with your capacity and what is whether you believe
Speaker 4: is your true purpose or whatever it might be, then
Speaker 4: you'll start experiencing a less enjoyable life. And I will
Speaker 4: share that just at a medical level. So let's say
Speaker 4: that you've got a capacity to be an amazing marathon runner.
Speaker 4: We know that if you put that person in the
Speaker 4: gym and make them just lift really heavy weights like
Speaker 4: they're training for the world's strongest man, they'll injure and
Speaker 4: they'll break because their capacity is in endurance.
Speaker 5: You give them endurance and they thrive.
Speaker 4: If you give them really really heavy weights, their body,
Speaker 4: their buyo mechanics aren't set up for it, and they'll break.
Speaker 4: And then we go to even the idea of purpose
Speaker 4: in the psychological literature. If you feel like you have
Speaker 4: purpose and you are living your purpose, your physiology shows healthier,
Speaker 4: It shows lower stress, greater attention, more.
Speaker 5: Reward, more flow.
Speaker 4: So even at a psychological level, at a physiological level,
Speaker 4: there is a capacity that your body has. At a
Speaker 4: psychological level, there is an internal knowing that you have,
Speaker 4: and I'll get to that in a second, but there
Speaker 4: like another example could be if you look at blood
Speaker 4: sugar levels and how they change when someone eats a
Speaker 4: piece of bread. You'll see some people skyrocket, and you'll
Speaker 4: see some people not even show a blip on their
Speaker 4: blood sugar levels. And that's because we have a different
Speaker 4: capacity in the way that we dispose of sugar in
Speaker 4: our body and the way that we're and this is
Speaker 4: healthy people. So physically we have different capacity. We can't
Speaker 4: be providing and so our physical purpose is different. And
Speaker 4: Aristotles spoke about this called the telos. Everything has an
Speaker 4: end goal and end function, and a marathon runner has
Speaker 4: skinny femurs or long femurs with skinny muscle bellies, and
Speaker 4: their end goal is to do endurance at a high capacity.
Speaker 4: Some individuals have got incredible glute for transporters, and so
Speaker 4: as a result, when they experience blood sugar, their muscles
Speaker 4: assimilate that blood sugar very very Other people don't have
Speaker 4: that glue foroor transporter, and so their capacity is different.
Speaker 4: So their purpose is to do like some people to
Speaker 4: eat a lot more carbs, other people not. And then
Speaker 4: we have This is what's so interesting, because we do
Speaker 4: a lot of purpose work in our course and we
Speaker 4: ask people what their purpose is.
Speaker 5: And I run this a lot.
Speaker 4: In even schools that I've been running and workplaces, and
Speaker 4: what's so fascinating is that we find that people with
Speaker 4: the biology that makes them more nurturing when they're reflecting
Speaker 4: on their purpose, when they're asked the right questions about
Speaker 4: what are the things that make me passionate, what are
Speaker 4: the things that make me feel great, what are the
Speaker 4: things I believe in my purpose? What they come down
Speaker 4: to is, oh, I just love helping people and making
Speaker 4: sure that everybody's fine. Whereas you go to another person
Speaker 4: who's biologically driven to be more focused and strategic, and
Speaker 4: their purpose is it might be to help people, but
Speaker 4: it's like I love putting things in order and systems
Speaker 4: and structure and making things make sense and delivering information.
Speaker 4: And so what I'm finding from my work experience in
Speaker 4: this space is that if you listen to your body
Speaker 4: and just to your point, your body and your mind,
Speaker 4: your natural body and mind have all of this intelligence
Speaker 4: as to what your capacity is. And if you live
Speaker 4: in alignment with your capacity, you have less chronic disease
Speaker 4: because you're doing things that are right for your body.
Speaker 4: You have less mental health issues because you're doing things
Speaker 4: in alignment with your psychological purpose. And then if there
Speaker 4: is such thing as a spiritual or divine intention, then
Speaker 4: of course, of course, if there is an even you know,
Speaker 4: I work with a lot of Christian schools, and there's
Speaker 4: this beautiful psalm, the Psalm one point thirty nine, and
Speaker 4: it speaks about God designing coming into the womb and
Speaker 4: designing your development as a human and knowing what your
Speaker 4: journey will be throughout your life in the womb before
Speaker 4: you're born. And that's exactly what we discuss in embryology.
Speaker 4: But I only put the two together in the last
Speaker 4: couple of years. And if there is a divine entity
Speaker 4: and there is a divine purpose for you, then the
Speaker 4: argument is, well, surely the design of your body and
Speaker 4: the natural design of your mind would.
Speaker 5: Be to fulfill that purpose.
Speaker 4: And so when you talk about and it doesn't matter
Speaker 4: even if you don't believe in that spirituality, I think
Speaker 4: that's okay. But if you say, what does my body
Speaker 4: actually want to make me feel best? If I put
Speaker 4: it into the right excise, if I put it into
Speaker 4: the right into the right nutrition, if I put it
Speaker 4: into the right career, if I put it into the
Speaker 4: right physical environment, if it's right for my body, it
Speaker 4: will feel amazing and I will enjoy life more and
Speaker 4: I will live longer.
Speaker 5: That's what it's all about.
Speaker 4: So even if you stop it at any of the
Speaker 4: philosophical stuff or the spiritual stuff, there's a physical purpose
Speaker 4: that's written into our body anyway that speaks to our capacity.
Speaker 4: So that's how I would answer that question.
Speaker 1: Wow wow, wow, And what are the steppings to zones
Speaker 1: to finding our purpose? Is it?
Speaker 2: I feel like part of it is identifying my values,
Speaker 2: Like what matters to me? What are my values? What's
Speaker 2: important to me? Is that kind of opening the door
Speaker 2: on you know, is that part of the pathway to
Speaker 2: finding our purpose and our reason?
Speaker 5: It can be, It can be.
Speaker 4: And generally the questions that we ask, what are you
Speaker 4: passionate about? Like what makes you feel so excited that
Speaker 4: you could do it at any time just because you
Speaker 4: love it? Like that, there's no thinking required with that,
Speaker 4: it's just like, oh, man, I love doing that. I
Speaker 4: just everything in me gravitates towards that. The second question
Speaker 4: we ask is, so that's what do you think your
Speaker 4: purpose is? What do you feel your purposes or what
Speaker 4: are the things in life that make you feel great?
Speaker 4: And that could be spending time with your kids, it
Speaker 4: could be going to the beach. It could be doing
Speaker 4: a particular kind of work. It could be doing a
Speaker 4: particular kind of exercise, could be eating a particular kind
Speaker 4: of food. What makes me feel great? And then we
Speaker 4: ask a really interesting question, and that is what do
Speaker 4: you believe your purposes? And that is seeing is believing.
Speaker 4: So it's a really fascinating question that makes you think
Speaker 4: about what's in your life right now that if you
Speaker 4: were to take a snapshot, a three sixty degree snapshot
Speaker 4: of your life right now, with all of the characters
Speaker 4: in play and the work that is, and your fitness
Speaker 4: and your health, whatever it might be, if you were
Speaker 4: to essentially get each of those elements to speak to
Speaker 4: you about I'm in your life, Because like that, that's
Speaker 4: essentially how you answer that question.
Speaker 5: So the fact that I've got.
Speaker 4: Some kids and that I'm naturally inclined to want to
Speaker 4: spend time with my kids, and I want to do
Speaker 4: the best job that I can with my kids. I know,
Speaker 4: just knowing that part of my purpose is to be
Speaker 4: a great dad, like I want to be a great
Speaker 4: dad to my kids, because it's showing up in my life,
Speaker 4: it's confirming my existence.
Speaker 5: And then what's another thing it might.
Speaker 4: Be, Like I've always enjoyed speaking, I've always enjoyed science,
Speaker 4: and I've absolutely fallen in love with precision health, and
Speaker 4: I know that it feels so right to be in
Speaker 4: that and it just so happened that all of this
Speaker 4: stuff conspired in the world so that I could meet,
Speaker 4: you know, the leading guys in precision health and be
Speaker 4: able to work alongside them. So that is reflecting back
Speaker 4: to me in my life of I think I'm meant
Speaker 4: to be speaking about precision health because all of those things.
Speaker 5: So it's just that question.
Speaker 4: Around what's actually in your life right now that's showing
Speaker 4: you what your purpose is, because part of your purpose
Speaker 4: might be like right now, I've got cancer. Part of
Speaker 4: my purpose is to understand cancer and to beat cancer.
Speaker 4: Like that's a big important thing, Like whether you want
Speaker 4: it to be in your life or not. So the
Speaker 4: collection of those three things, think, feel, and believe. When
Speaker 4: you get that, then you try and while you stay
Speaker 4: in the flow of it, you try and write a
Speaker 4: two sentence thing of If I was to summarize thinking, feeling,
Speaker 4: and believing what my purpose is? What is my purpose?
Speaker 4: It is amazing what falls out at the bottom, and
Speaker 4: it's the values are really powerful.
Speaker 5: Fad for that as well.
Speaker 4: I found that people can get a very intuitive or
Speaker 4: a deeper unconscious sense of their purpose through those questions
Speaker 4: because the answer kind of just falls out. They don't
Speaker 4: have to think about what they value, but rather it's
Speaker 4: it's coming from deeper instincts that they have. So that's
Speaker 4: that's an exercise that we run, and I would welcome
Speaker 4: you to try it because it's a it's bloody powerful mate.
Speaker 2: We could bang on, but I'm actually going to pull
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's integration time now, so it's it's been a
Speaker 4: really cool process. But no, thank you, thank you for
Speaker 4: the encouragement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, love it mate. It's great to see. We'll say
Speaker 1: goodbye Affair Tiff. Thanks to you too.
Speaker 3: Thanks guys,