1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: I got team. 2 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 2: Welcome to another bloody episode of the Bloody You Project. 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: It's bloody Doctor Cam and bloody Doctor Tiff, just chiming 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: in from all around different parts of the globe. Tiff 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: is doing some allegedly some home improvements which are not 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 2: working out or office improvements which aren't working out that well. 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: So the old financial shortcut didn't really do it, Tiff. 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 3: Well that was quite a while ago. That story that 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 3: smashing the right smashing that, but yes, no true story 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: of that. 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: So you accidentally smashed your expensive computer screen. 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: Yep, in the rush to set up my bargain standing 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 3: desk that I was excited about. 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: Well, that's what happens. 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: That's what happens, Doctor Cam from Shay Wellness and other places. 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 4: Hi, Hi Craig, Hi Tiff, Hi are you all right? 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: You are right. 18 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 4: I'm actually better I've ever been. I'm on I'm on 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 4: top level at the moment. 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: Why is that tell us, grasshopper. 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 4: I went to Bali for a specific intention of some big, 22 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 4: deep dark subconscious clearing MM and found some hefty nuggets 23 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 4: and released them. I'm life has a different lens. 24 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 5: It's great. 25 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 4: We're getting too much detailed to day I know we've 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 4: got stuff on, but it's. 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: Not I'm happy to go wherever. 28 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,279 Speaker 2: What a subconscious clearing mean in the world of Doctor 29 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: cam and for all us non GENIEI, what is that? 30 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 4: Well, it's a bit more to it than that, but 31 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 4: essentially it's a it's an environment you turn up in 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 4: like the way that it's run. You turn up where 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 4: you're eating exactly the food that's right for you, you're 34 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 4: doing the right kind of exercise for you, you're running 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 4: the rhythms of your day the way supposed to. And 36 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 4: then based on your history and all that sort of 37 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 4: stuff and a number of consultations you have at the beginning, 38 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 4: they kind of get a bit of an idea of like, 39 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 4: what are the things that are holding you back on 40 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 4: a whole bunch of different levels. And so then for 41 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 4: seven days it was four to five sessions per day 42 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 4: on identifying these emotional blocks. So subconscious in this could 43 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: be a memory from my childhood of Mum and Dad 44 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 4: having an argument about how they're going to parent me. 45 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 4: Mum wanting to hold the rules, Dad wanting to go 46 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 4: in with love. And as I go back and remember that, 47 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 4: it transforms into this, Oh Mum just preferred rules over kids, 48 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 4: and if you are too loving, then it's you're going 49 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 4: to have some sort of conflict. There's going to be 50 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 4: resistance to the love. And so there's lots of different examples, 51 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 4: and we go through a whole lot of different things 52 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 4: as we go, but essentially you go back and you 53 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 4: dig down into those things and it turns out that 54 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 4: and I thought I was pretty good emotionally intelligent, but 55 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 4: just my ability to feel was virtually zero. I was 56 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 4: just holding it all as a cognitive exercise in my head, 57 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 4: and so just creating a safe environment where I could 58 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 4: go into start feeling those things. And there was a 59 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 4: big nugget of lack of worth, unlovability, fear of failure, 60 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: and I think they're very very common to a lot 61 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: of people. Not everyone hasn't. But on day six, I 62 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 4: had like one of the most intense days of my life, 63 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 4: just sort of exercising demons with what it felt like 64 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 4: like just the. 65 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 5: Amount of emotion that was coming out. 66 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 4: And life is very, very very different. On the other side, 67 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: it's like I don't have that nagging little voice of 68 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 4: that I think, so it's like there's just no voice. Now, 69 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 4: there's like a memory of the voice, but there's no voice. 70 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 4: It's so fascinating and empowering and awesome. So it's been 71 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 4: a pretty spectacular couple of weeks. 72 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for sharing that. I love that 73 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: people like you who are. 74 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: Leaders and educators and very qualified and PhD and in 75 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: your space of whatever we want to call it, personalized health. 76 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: I guess like you're a pioneer. But it's great for 77 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: it's great for us to by us, I mean everyone 78 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: who's listening to you, me, TIF and our audience to go. Oh, 79 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: doctor Cam's got bullshit as well. Doctor Cam's a bit 80 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: fucked up like me. Oh, I like him more. I 81 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: relate to him more. And he's working on his bullshit 82 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 2: and he's working. It's not bullshit but his issues, his challenges, 83 00:04:54,480 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 2: his subconscious blocks. I think that's a really a reasonably 84 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: rare kind of thing in experts to actually go even 85 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: though I am where I am in my career, I'm 86 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 2: pretty far down the tunnel. 87 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm going okay. 88 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: I've got a pretty good brand and business and I'm 89 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: respected and well known, but also still very and very 90 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 2: much a work in progress. Are you comfortable in the 91 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: middle of all of that? 92 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, but probably this is what's so fascinating. I Mean, 93 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 4: when I was growing up, my mum owned a healing center. 94 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 4: We were going to healing, feeling workshops and emotional release stuff. 95 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 4: Since I was like eleven to fifteen, Like every weekend 96 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 4: I was home on the holidays, we'd be going along there. 97 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 4: So that's always been part of it. But what's so 98 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,679 Speaker 4: fascinating about the self work piece and how it played 99 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 4: out for me is that I would always have this 100 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 4: belief that there's always something to fix. And so while 101 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 4: that mindset of like I can go and improve something 102 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 4: is there, it's shrouded in failure and lack of enoughness. 103 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 4: It's like, oh, I've always got something to fix. I'm 104 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 4: never okay, you know. So the space of being a 105 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 4: work in progress is something that has always been fine, 106 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 4: But I've been a real victim to the other stuff 107 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 4: that played into that as well. So yeah, that's whereas 108 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 4: now I feel like, oh, I'm really excited about knowing 109 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 4: more of who I am without all of the various 110 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 4: voices that we have in our space. I'm really excited 111 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 4: to know more about that and to grow into it, 112 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 4: rather than I've got to fix myself. So It's been 113 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 4: a really interesting shift that way. 114 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: The whole who am I? You know, the identity piece 115 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: which comes up in theology and philosophy and psychology and Stoicism, 116 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 2: and you know, I like to know thyself, like the 117 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: beginning of wisdom is to know thy self, Socrates. My 118 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: PhD is in self awareness, all of that, like self 119 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: knowledge intersex with that. Why is it such a hard 120 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: thing you? And again everyone, this is just three people chatting. 121 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: This is not personal advice. Why do you reckon? It's 122 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 2: so hard to figure out who the fuck we are? 123 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: Is that because our identity is tied into things that 124 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: we're not. 125 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: I think there's no This is some of the stuff 126 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 4: we're doing education in schools about right now, but we're 127 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 4: right at the start of it. But there's no formal 128 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 4: education of how do you know who you are? 129 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 5: Internally? 130 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 4: Because even the way that they do identity in schools, 131 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 4: it's like what's my family, Like I'm a brother, whatever, 132 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 4: I'm a this. Some of that it's very externally oriented 133 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 4: and back into you rather than I have a deeper 134 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 4: understanding of me. And not only that, so we're not 135 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 4: taught to really introspect powerfully. The second thing is that 136 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 4: we are marking ourselves off other people who are biologically 137 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 4: different to us, and that drives differences in our personality. 138 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 4: So we're looking at other people thinking, oh, I like them, Well, 139 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 4: why can't I be more like them? When you're different anyway, 140 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 4: So there's that comparative approach. But then also the thing 141 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: that I discovered, and this was probably the most powerful 142 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 4: thing that happened on day five is as my Heart 143 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 4: started cracking open was one of our incredible and she's 144 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 4: been on your podcast, Tiff and Larsen. 145 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 5: She introduced this thing called the voice of Gay. 146 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 4: My mom's name is gay, and she was like, what's 147 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 4: the voice of gay say when you're sitting at the 148 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 4: dinner dab with the boys, and the voice of my 149 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 4: mom says, Oh, you've got to sit up straight, you've 150 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 4: got to use your knife and fork, you've got to 151 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 4: eat all your vegetables. You've got to do all of 152 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 4: these things. And if you don't do that, you fail. 153 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 4: And then what's the voice of your dad say? It's 154 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 4: like the food doesn't matter so much, let's just all 155 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 4: have a nice time. And then what does the voice 156 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 4: of the dietitian say that I've learned all this knowledge, 157 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 4: and it's like, oh, well, they've got to have certain 158 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 4: fibers and this and certain that, and then what is 159 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 4: all of the self awareness stuff that I know about? 160 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 4: And that voice is saying, Oh, you've just got to 161 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 4: be present and you've got to be all of these things. 162 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 4: And so you end up with they're not even your beliefs. 163 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 4: There's things that don't belong to you that you've just 164 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 4: accumulated over time because you've been exposed to them enough. 165 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 4: And when I got to sit with all of those voices, 166 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 4: I said, how would I actually run my dinner for 167 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 4: my family? And literally, like, I'm a dietician. I know 168 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 4: that health is good, but I'd say I would just 169 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 4: make the kids race and give them a prize for 170 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 4: whoever finishes their vegetables in a certain period of time, 171 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 4: and then I would make two other items that are 172 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 4: super healthy and happy and we play some sort. 173 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 5: Of game, because that's the kind of dinner that I 174 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 5: want to have. 175 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 4: And that's if I was going to bring them up 176 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 4: in the way that I actually think is best for them, 177 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 4: man for everyone. That's my voice. But to the answer 178 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 4: your question, the reason why it's so hard is because 179 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 4: I had seventeen other voices that are saying different things, 180 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 4: and so no matter what I'd do, there's no win. 181 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 4: And so I can't even find myself in that. And 182 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 4: that was one tiny little example, just having dinner with 183 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 4: my kids. It makes it so difficult and unless you're 184 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 4: ready to go back and unpack all of the things 185 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 4: that happened between ages zero to seven, which ultimately we 186 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 4: need to do. But the great thing is that AI 187 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 4: will eventually be able to help us do that really powerfully. 188 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 4: Like this is what psychotherapy is all about, is helping 189 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 4: you go back to those spaces to reimagine those memories, 190 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 4: to reconstruct them. And while we're over at the retreat, 191 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: we had a personal keynote from Bruce Lipton who was 192 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 4: talking about the quantum field that is generated from your 193 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 4: subconscious and ninety five percent of your reality is coming 194 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 4: from your subconscious projection because the only thing that governs 195 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 4: matter is the quantum field that surrounds it. This is 196 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 4: getting into a bit of count. We won't get into 197 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 4: a two day but essentially, if you've got a belief 198 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 4: of I'm not enough that has a particular frequency, and 199 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 4: just like if you hit a tuning fork, that frequency 200 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 4: goes out, it'll find something that it resonates on the 201 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 4: same level with, and it makes that thing resonate, and 202 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 4: then that resonation sends back a message to the part 203 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 4: of you that's holding that frequency, and then you see it, 204 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 4: and so your reality is just created. You just keep 205 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 4: resonating with all of the stuff that's happening sitting here, 206 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: and you're subconscious. And this is why people can just 207 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 4: keep going in loops and loops and loops with the 208 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 4: relationships or money or work or whatever it might be, 209 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 4: because there's unconscious beliefs that are sitting there that aren't resolved, 210 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 4: and so they're unconscious because they're not conscious of them. 211 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 4: So not only do you have everybody else's beliefs, then 212 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 4: you've got how they've formed in your body. Then you've 213 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 4: got your own natural impulses. Then you've got the conflict. 214 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 4: And we don't have a safe environment in our community 215 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 4: where we can actually work that through because you can't 216 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 4: heal when you're in stress. You can only heal when 217 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 4: you're feeling safe. Like if you're in stress, you'll compensate 218 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 4: and you'll block and you'll resist. You have to feel 219 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 4: very very safe to actually go into a space of 220 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 4: healing where you can process these things. 221 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 5: So there's so many. 222 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 4: Things make it really hard to understand your identity. And 223 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 4: I feel like I've just got lot more to share 224 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 4: on that now because I've just lived such an incredible 225 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 4: insight over the last couple of weeks. 226 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: I love that, Thanks for sharing. It's obviously. 227 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: I think a lot about thinking, you know, that metacognitive 228 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 2: kind of rabbit hole that we go down, which is 229 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: why do I think the way that I think? And 230 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: why do I have the beliefs that I have? Where 231 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: did they come from? Did I choose them or did 232 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: they choose me? Or did I have them by psychological 233 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: and sociological osmosis, Like just did I inherit them through 234 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: proximity and repetition and programming. 235 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: That I didn't even choose? 236 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 5: You know? 237 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: And then you wake up and you're like fifteen, and 238 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I'm a piece of shit, And that's 239 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: a hard wired belief for I'm unathletic, or nobody could 240 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: love me, or I could never make a sporting team 241 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 2: in my you know, or I'm not smart, or I 242 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: had a lot of really defining powerful belief that I 243 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 2: didn't choose, and they were powerful in a bad way, 244 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: not a good way, but nonetheless I absolutely believed them 245 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: while never choosing them. 246 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, like. 247 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: Opening the door on that kind of origin story or 248 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: starting to think at least question, you know. 249 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: It's like could I be wrong? 250 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: And one of the challenges is when we have a belief, 251 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: whatever the belief is good or bad, when we have 252 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: a belief that's intertwined with our sense of self, it's 253 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: very hard for anyone else to challenge that belief because 254 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: if you challenge that belief, you're challenging who they. 255 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: Are at their core, or who they believe they are. 256 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: You know. 257 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: So for me, who grew up in a really religious family, 258 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: it was never presented as an option. It was presented 259 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: as the truth, like the unequivocal, the unequivocal, absolute, one 260 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 2: true path to the divine. 261 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: You're on it, We're on it. 262 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: You're welcome, right, There was no and so you don't know, 263 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: you're fucking seven. You're like, well, of course, I don't know. 264 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: This is how the works. So there's heaven and hell 265 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: and purgatory and eternal damnation and fire and the devil 266 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: and God and Jesus and Apostles and there's all this 267 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: stuff and if I do this, this is the outcome. 268 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: And if I do that, that's the outcome. But nobody's 269 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: presenting these to you as possibilities or ideas or constructs. 270 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: And this happens in all environments at all ages. And 271 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: when you meet somebody who seems smart or you think 272 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: is smart or smarter than you are, believable or trustworthy 273 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: or whatever, and they go, hey, Craig, this is the 274 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: best way to eat. 275 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: Let me tell you why. 276 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: And then now I know the best way to eat 277 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: and there's only one best way because doctor Cam told me, 278 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: and I like him and I trust him. He's a dietitian, 279 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: so this do you know what I mean? And then 280 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: you wake up you're fifty, and you're like, fucking hell, 281 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: where did all. 282 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: This shit come from? Yeah, you know totally, that's a lot. 283 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 4: I know. 284 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: But it's like we I don't think we think enough 285 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 2: about how we think, not what we think, but just 286 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: why do I think the way that I do? Yes, 287 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: because we're so unconsciously driven. And there's like almost this 288 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: little five step thing that I do with people Cam, 289 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: which is self reflections. So we're just trying to just 290 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: think about, you know, not in a self loathing way, 291 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: but in a curiosity way, so self reflection. The next 292 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: one is when we have an awareness or a realization, 293 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: so self awareness and then getting to understand truly who 294 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: we are in the middle of that self knowledge, and 295 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: then self regulation is like, Okay, how do I manage 296 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: me to think better, do better, choose better, and become 297 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: better whatever that means. And then the last one in 298 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 2: that five step kind of hierarchy is self actualization, which 299 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: is where I feel like you're playing now in that 300 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 2: space of who am I becoming and who do I 301 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: want to be? 302 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, where is my like what is my true voice? 303 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 4: And I'd have to say a big part of that 304 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 4: is that that's been a very cognitive exercise for me, 305 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 4: and probably the biggest thing that I've learned to value 306 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: is what without sounding too fluffy, but it's actually exactly 307 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 4: what's going on? What how does my body feel about that? 308 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: You know? 309 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 4: And this is where we in our world, we probably 310 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 4: in our culture particularly, we probably discredit feeling a whole lot. 311 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 5: More than we do thought. 312 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 4: And thinking and feeling are obviously two very different things, 313 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 4: but it was I was holding on with all of 314 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 4: my thoughts because that's my strength, you know, is to think. 315 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 4: And it's amazing what difference it does to actually be 316 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 4: able to feel these things at the same time. And 317 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 4: I want this thing? What does it actually feel like 318 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 4: to want that thing? And it it grounds that so 319 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 4: much more, it makes it so much more tangible for 320 00:16:58,440 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 4: me as well. 321 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 2: So is you is your thinking your strength to be 322 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: able to think or is it your security blanket. 323 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: Because sometimes you've got to get out of thinking. 324 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 4: Well, I would argue that it's both, and that is it. Ultimately, 325 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 4: once I'm feeling well, I can then use my thinking 326 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 4: to direct my feelings really well. But my nervous system 327 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 4: is set up to do lots of thinking, whereas somebody 328 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 4: else in my life, maybe a Tiffany Cook is a 329 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 4: very good feeler, you know, and you're a good feeler too, Harps, 330 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 4: And it's like and the feelings come out like let's 331 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 4: say that you have an issue with a course that 332 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 4: you're in and you have a feeling about it, and 333 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, I'm really like that feeling is 334 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 4: not only a protective blanket, but it's also a strength. 335 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 4: And this is what I saw other people on the 336 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 4: same retreat were very feeling oriented, and they went straight 337 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 4: out of their feelings and they had huge emotional releases. 338 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 4: That took me five days to get there because I 339 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 4: had to chip away at this brain that is which 340 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 4: is my strength, but also in this sense, it is 341 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 4: my security, and it was also my achilles in all 342 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 4: of those things. 343 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 2: See, so that's so I mean, talk about awareness do 344 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: that's good, and that's courage, and that's humility, and that's 345 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: you know, vulnerability right there, Like that is so fucking good, 346 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: you know, I wrote it's so funny. I have conversations. 347 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 2: I guess this is a coincidence. I don't know, but 348 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 2: I have conversations, and quite often I'll have a conversation 349 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 2: and three hours before I thought of something or I 350 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 2: wrote something that totally coincides with what we're talking about. 351 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: And you can't see it because I've got a screen. 352 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: But behind me on my whiteboard, which is going up tonight, 353 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 2: is a whiteboard post that says your body is the 354 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: ultimate truth teller. 355 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 4: Oh I love that. 356 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: That's great, you know, it's the ultimate. 357 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 2: And I wrote something earlier today which will not be 358 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: news to you, but I put it up on LinkedIn 359 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: and this this is very much down your road. But 360 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: the white the whiteboard post is something works for everybody, 361 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: but everything doesn't work for everybody. Find your something right, 362 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 2: and I wrote, there's no universal best diet, workout, sleep protocol, medication, supplement, 363 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 2: lifestyle style, or even job. That is, there's no strategy 364 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 2: or approach that works equally well for everyone, but there 365 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 2: is a best everything for you as an individual. What 366 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 2: works optimally for me could be anywhere between mildly effective 367 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 2: and disastrous for you. My healthy snack could be your 368 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 2: anaphylactic reaction. My dream career could be your nightmare job. 369 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 2: The medication that helps me function could give you anxiety. 370 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: Don't confuse advertising with information or truth or pseudo science 371 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 2: with actual science. And then I finished with that quote. 372 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: I wrote, your body is your greatest teacher and truth teller. 373 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 2: And I feel like there's so much wisdom in our body. 374 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: You know, so much wisdom, so much insights, so much truth. 375 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: But our mind is like the clown. You know, there's 376 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: so much for me anyway, like my ego, my fear, 377 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: my mind, so much bullshit, my body zero bullshit, yeah, zero, 378 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: just truth and often truth. 379 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: I don't want, by the way, but nonetheless truth. Yeah, 380 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: it's like. 381 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 2: Telling me, shit, I don't want to hear. So then 382 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: my mind gets online and goes, nah, it's not that 383 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: despite the evidence, your honor. 384 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure I can think through this. Not a problem. 385 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll just jog it out. 386 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: What's it like for you being the teacher and the 387 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 2: leader and the you know, the researcher being in those programs, 388 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: a program like that and being a student, uh well 389 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 2: or our participant or whatever, whatever, I know what you mean. 390 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 4: Well, interestingly enough, like it was our team that ran 391 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 4: the retreat and a lot of them sitting around the tables, 392 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 4: probably twenty people around the table. Half of them I 393 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 4: introduced to the work and they then went on and 394 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 4: they're doing all this work now, which is in parallel 395 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 4: to what we're doing. But I knew I was there 396 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 4: for a result. I've always been a good student, and 397 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 4: I was just doing the stuff that I needed to do. 398 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 4: But what was so fascinating they actually set it up 399 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 4: to say, look, Cam is going to be here and 400 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 4: he's going to be struggling through all of this stuff, 401 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 4: so you need to not be friendly and be laughing 402 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 4: at his jokes because that's going to flick him into 403 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 4: his safety mechanism of like, oh, I'm just friends with 404 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 4: these people, and then you know they're not They're not 405 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 4: in charge ultimately, so they actually, you know, like the 406 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 4: six or seven very good friends that I had there 407 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 4: really held a space of like, I'm not talking. I've 408 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 4: even reflected with one of the guys, who's my VP 409 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 4: of OPS, he's. 410 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 5: I look I look after him. 411 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 4: He was like every time I saw I had to 412 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 4: literally walk the other way because I didn't want to 413 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 4: engage with you as a friend, and I just had 414 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 4: to keep you in the space of because I was 415 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 4: really battling for three or four days, I was really resisting, 416 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 4: I was really trying, but I had no idea how 417 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 4: to get to this place of feeling, and they really 418 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 4: had to suspend me in the discomfort of that until 419 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 4: I got there myself. It was so I get I 420 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 4: went in pretty focused, but they also really manufactured the 421 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 4: situation to really support that as well. It was. It 422 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 4: was brilliantly done. 423 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: And what was the mechanism or the conduit that got 424 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 2: you to those feelings You. 425 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: Said you were really struggling to get there. 426 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 4: What all right, okay, these ones definitely didn't think I'd 427 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 4: be talking about this though publicly, so. 428 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 1: The how uncomfortable does he look? And how happy am I? 429 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 4: No, it's great, it's great. 430 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: It's just this episode might be called doctor cam squirmed. 431 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 4: No, I'm actually really excited to share it. 432 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 6: I just so the there was a whole lot of 433 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 6: There's one of our teams, she's called the Excavator and 434 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 6: essentially she goes in and just digs up subconscious memories. 435 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 5: And just shows them. 436 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 4: And she was being really firm with me, and normally 437 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 4: she's quite friendly, and that was really throwing me off. 438 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 4: That so her shipping away. There was my head of 439 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 4: coaching and she's a forty year experienced social mental health worker. 440 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 4: She's doing the counseling essentially the psychotherapy. She was She 441 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 4: did a couple of visualizations that helped a few things, 442 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 4: but just kept working through memories. And then we also 443 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 4: had this this emotional elevator exercise where I'd be guided 444 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 4: through this thing of where I'm okay, I'm on the 445 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 4: level one of the emotions where there's like it's just 446 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 4: like level one of my emotional body. Great, I'm going 447 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 4: to go down to the level two. Now, how much 448 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 4: deeper is that? Feeling? Level three, level four, level five, 449 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 4: level six. Now, what I discovered about myself in all 450 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 4: of this is that, and this was really confronting. I 451 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 4: firstly couldn't feel anger, couldn't feel sadness. The only time 452 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 4: at the start of the week, the only time that 453 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 4: they could elicit a feeling out of me was if 454 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 4: they pinched me really hard. So as I was going 455 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 4: down the emotional elevator, they caused me physical pain, and 456 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 4: that would either make me laugh, but then as we 457 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 4: were trying to go down and deepen the anger, it 458 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 4: would make me get really angry and start like screaming 459 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 4: into a pillow essentially. And then they tried to do 460 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 4: it with sadness, but it didn't work with sadness. 461 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 5: And so what I discovered, probably. 462 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 4: By about day five, was that there was a heap 463 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 4: of anger that I had that was suppressed that I 464 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 4: hadn't expect because I just control it with my mind 465 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 4: and control it with either sensible part of me or 466 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 4: I shouldn't be angry about this, and I've been told 467 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 4: a few times, but I think there's some angery in you. 468 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 5: Can I was like, now, I'm good, you know. 469 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 4: So what I found as we were diving into this 470 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 4: subconscious stuff and we locked onto a couple of really 471 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 4: important memories, I found that if I would scream essentially 472 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 4: repeatedly until I'm out of breath, I would have this 473 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 4: this moment that would feel like only what an extoricism 474 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 4: looks like, like I would I would sort of go 475 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 4: into it like I've never eOne done some shamanic breathing 476 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 4: where you kind of have those little like like little 477 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 4: wobbly bits. Anyway, my disorientation. But it was like after that, 478 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 4: it was like it just my the space in my 479 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,479 Speaker 4: mind would just clear and it just wasn't there. And 480 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 4: then the next evolution of that into sadness was or 481 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 4: the anger at myself. 482 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 5: I was angry at somebody. 483 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 4: Clear that now I can feel the anger myself expressed 484 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 4: that And the thing that I'm holding back on but 485 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 4: I'll share with you is the big one that essentially 486 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 4: just cut through everything where I literally had a in 487 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 4: my mind and my body, a life changing experience. We're 488 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 4: at this place, I can't remember that there's this particular 489 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 4: there's this particular temple in Bali which all of the 490 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 4: more alternative therapists and spiritual healers believe is the most 491 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 4: energetic place on the planet. 492 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 5: I couldn't really feel it because that was. 493 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 4: Mean, but everybody else's legs was shaking and vibrating and 494 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 4: all of those things. I probably spent an hour and 495 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 4: twenty minutes screaming at the top of my long lungs 496 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 4: at the stars, like in a battle against these belief systems. 497 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 5: And I don't know who put that. 498 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 4: Battle there in my head, but it was like, as 499 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 4: I was starting to release this emotion, I just said. 500 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 5: Man, if I don't beat this now, it will have me. 501 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 4: And it was like it became this non negotiable I've 502 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 4: got to express everything. 503 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 5: And I literally went for. 504 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 4: An hour, an hour and twenty minutes, and I felt 505 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 4: like I cleared it, and then I felt like, no, 506 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 4: I've got to like I've got to make sure this 507 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 4: is gone from the universe. And so I just kept 508 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 4: going until I like essentially had that experience where I 509 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 4: got a little bit disoriented and had like a mini 510 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 4: vision and then I was just there completely wasted, and 511 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 4: I said to this is without any psychedelics, by the way, 512 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 4: this is all just this just old fashioned language and 513 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 4: like I came to and I said, if there's more, 514 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 4: I'll keep going. Like I was just in this, I 515 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 4: am not letting this thing beat me today. And that 516 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 4: was the thing and the facilitator at the end. He's 517 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 4: the most gifted dude that I know in this space. 518 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 4: He said, you always had the strength to do that 519 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 4: that never give up strength, but you needed the competition 520 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 4: and you needed it to be an internal competition to 521 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 4: win something, to prove to yourself that you can actually 522 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 4: own that and harness it going forward. Well, anyway, as 523 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 4: I'm talking about this, my whole body is a light, 524 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 4: like it is just the most incredible memory and I 525 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 4: can just remember that feeling of life, this non negotiable, 526 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 4: I will not stop, I will not quit. Like it 527 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 4: was so empowering and I can I'm actually bringing that 528 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 4: into my life a whole lot more now. 529 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 5: So it's just that was insane. 530 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 4: That was a huge, huge day. I was just dripping 531 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 4: in sweat, like lost my voice. It was insane. 532 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: That's full on, dude, Okay, so much, No, no, man, 533 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: that's I mean, that is like I don't know if 534 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: this is the right question, but I'm going to ask it. 535 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: Do you feel like that was more psychological, more emotional, 536 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: or more spiritual, or none of the above, something else, 537 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 2: or a combination. 538 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 4: It's been a combination. We were doing a bunch of 539 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 4: mind space stuff, we were doing a bunch of feeling stuff, 540 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 4: and we were working on the energetics of it as well. 541 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 4: And my experience was very different to other people. Other 542 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 4: people would just cry hysterically for forty five minutes as 543 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 4: they're releasing a you know, like a childhood trauma, and 544 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 4: that would be there and then they'd be good, you know. 545 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 4: But for whatever reason, I needed to, I needed to 546 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 4: do it real hard, so the but no, it was 547 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 4: on all levels and definitely my connection to because I'm 548 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 4: quite spiritually minded and that I believe we're here with 549 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 4: a purpose. I believe that we're connected. I believe that 550 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 4: a whole lot of different things, and I also believe 551 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 4: in the physical science and how those two things are 552 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 4: all brought together. But my spiritual purpose is so much 553 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 4: more palpable now. It was a cognitive exercise for me 554 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 4: of like, oh, yeah, I'm here because I want to 555 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 4: eliminate chronic disease and pain by twenty fifty oh one. 556 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 5: Connected. I want people to feel their best. 557 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 4: But now I think about my role in that, I 558 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 4: think about my purpose. I feel my purpose, and it's 559 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 4: like this heart thumping feeling of holy crap, you are 560 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 4: here and this is why you're here. Like it's truly a. 561 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 5: Whole body, a whole. 562 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 4: Consciousness experience for me. Now, so's it was definitely all levels. 563 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you feel like we. 564 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: Have a pre ordained purpose or a like a like 565 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: we're hardwired to be more suited to a particular purpose 566 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: or reason for existing or focus or do you think 567 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: it's something that we choose, something that we grow into 568 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: and something that we develop or both or something I. 569 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 4: Think it's I think it's a combination of both. And 570 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 4: what I'll say about that is we are born with 571 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 4: a particular capacity. So not everyone's going to be Usain Bolt. 572 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 4: Not everyone's going to be world champion sumer wrestler. Not 573 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 4: everyone's going to be Tiffany Cook, and so like within 574 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 4: your genes and the way that your body's developing, and 575 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 4: that's essentially what we measure, is we measure phenotype. We 576 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 4: look at how your body has formed, and that body 577 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 4: has a particular capacity. When we look at your natural 578 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 4: personality and your natural mental gifts or your ability to 579 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 4: feel different people have different amounts of capacity, and so 580 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 4: we've got a capacity that we come in with and 581 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 4: a potential that we can achieve, and then then we 582 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 4: get to make choices. But what's interesting about this is 583 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 4: that when you're making the wrong choices that aren't in 584 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 4: alignment with your capacity and what is whether you believe 585 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 4: is your true purpose or whatever it might be, then 586 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 4: you'll start experiencing a less enjoyable life. And I will 587 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 4: share that just at a medical level. So let's say 588 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 4: that you've got a capacity to be an amazing marathon runner. 589 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 4: We know that if you put that person in the 590 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 4: gym and make them just lift really heavy weights like 591 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 4: they're training for the world's strongest man, they'll injure and 592 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 4: they'll break because their capacity is in endurance. 593 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 5: You give them endurance and they thrive. 594 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 4: If you give them really really heavy weights, their body, 595 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 4: their buyo mechanics aren't set up for it, and they'll break. 596 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 4: And then we go to even the idea of purpose 597 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 4: in the psychological literature. If you feel like you have 598 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 4: purpose and you are living your purpose, your physiology shows healthier, 599 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 4: It shows lower stress, greater attention, more. 600 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 5: Reward, more flow. 601 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 4: So even at a psychological level, at a physiological level, 602 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 4: there is a capacity that your body has. At a 603 00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 4: psychological level, there is an internal knowing that you have, 604 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 4: and I'll get to that in a second, but there 605 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 4: like another example could be if you look at blood 606 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 4: sugar levels and how they change when someone eats a 607 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 4: piece of bread. You'll see some people skyrocket, and you'll 608 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,239 Speaker 4: see some people not even show a blip on their 609 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 4: blood sugar levels. And that's because we have a different 610 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 4: capacity in the way that we dispose of sugar in 611 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 4: our body and the way that we're and this is 612 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 4: healthy people. So physically we have different capacity. We can't 613 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 4: be providing and so our physical purpose is different. And 614 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 4: Aristotles spoke about this called the telos. Everything has an 615 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 4: end goal and end function, and a marathon runner has 616 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 4: skinny femurs or long femurs with skinny muscle bellies, and 617 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 4: their end goal is to do endurance at a high capacity. 618 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 4: Some individuals have got incredible glute for transporters, and so 619 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 4: as a result, when they experience blood sugar, their muscles 620 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 4: assimilate that blood sugar very very Other people don't have 621 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,719 Speaker 4: that glue foroor transporter, and so their capacity is different. 622 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 4: So their purpose is to do like some people to 623 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 4: eat a lot more carbs, other people not. And then 624 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 4: we have This is what's so interesting, because we do 625 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 4: a lot of purpose work in our course and we 626 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 4: ask people what their purpose is. 627 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 5: And I run this a lot. 628 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 4: In even schools that I've been running and workplaces, and 629 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 4: what's so fascinating is that we find that people with 630 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 4: the biology that makes them more nurturing when they're reflecting 631 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 4: on their purpose, when they're asked the right questions about 632 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 4: what are the things that make me passionate, what are 633 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 4: the things that make me feel great, what are the 634 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 4: things I believe in my purpose? What they come down 635 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 4: to is, oh, I just love helping people and making 636 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 4: sure that everybody's fine. Whereas you go to another person 637 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 4: who's biologically driven to be more focused and strategic, and 638 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 4: their purpose is it might be to help people, but 639 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 4: it's like I love putting things in order and systems 640 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 4: and structure and making things make sense and delivering information. 641 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 4: And so what I'm finding from my work experience in 642 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 4: this space is that if you listen to your body 643 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 4: and just to your point, your body and your mind, 644 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 4: your natural body and mind have all of this intelligence 645 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 4: as to what your capacity is. And if you live 646 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 4: in alignment with your capacity, you have less chronic disease 647 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 4: because you're doing things that are right for your body. 648 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 4: You have less mental health issues because you're doing things 649 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 4: in alignment with your psychological purpose. And then if there 650 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 4: is such thing as a spiritual or divine intention, then 651 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 4: of course, of course, if there is an even you know, 652 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 4: I work with a lot of Christian schools, and there's 653 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 4: this beautiful psalm, the Psalm one point thirty nine, and 654 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 4: it speaks about God designing coming into the womb and 655 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 4: designing your development as a human and knowing what your 656 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 4: journey will be throughout your life in the womb before 657 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 4: you're born. And that's exactly what we discuss in embryology. 658 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 4: But I only put the two together in the last 659 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 4: couple of years. And if there is a divine entity 660 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 4: and there is a divine purpose for you, then the 661 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 4: argument is, well, surely the design of your body and 662 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 4: the natural design of your mind would. 663 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 5: Be to fulfill that purpose. 664 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 4: And so when you talk about and it doesn't matter 665 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 4: even if you don't believe in that spirituality, I think 666 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 4: that's okay. But if you say, what does my body 667 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 4: actually want to make me feel best? If I put 668 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 4: it into the right excise, if I put it into 669 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 4: the right into the right nutrition, if I put it 670 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 4: into the right career, if I put it into the 671 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 4: right physical environment, if it's right for my body, it 672 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 4: will feel amazing and I will enjoy life more and 673 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 4: I will live longer. 674 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 5: That's what it's all about. 675 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 4: So even if you stop it at any of the 676 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,280 Speaker 4: philosophical stuff or the spiritual stuff, there's a physical purpose 677 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 4: that's written into our body anyway that speaks to our capacity. 678 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 4: So that's how I would answer that question. 679 00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:00,320 Speaker 1: Wow wow, wow, And what are the steppings to zones 680 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: to finding our purpose? Is it? 681 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 2: I feel like part of it is identifying my values, 682 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 2: Like what matters to me? What are my values? What's 683 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,760 Speaker 2: important to me? Is that kind of opening the door 684 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 2: on you know, is that part of the pathway to 685 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 2: finding our purpose and our reason? 686 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 5: It can be, It can be. 687 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 4: And generally the questions that we ask, what are you 688 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 4: passionate about? Like what makes you feel so excited that 689 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 4: you could do it at any time just because you 690 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 4: love it? Like that, there's no thinking required with that, 691 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 4: it's just like, oh, man, I love doing that. I 692 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,720 Speaker 4: just everything in me gravitates towards that. The second question 693 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 4: we ask is, so that's what do you think your 694 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 4: purpose is? What do you feel your purposes or what 695 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 4: are the things in life that make you feel great? 696 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 4: And that could be spending time with your kids, it 697 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 4: could be going to the beach. It could be doing 698 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 4: a particular kind of work. It could be doing a 699 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 4: particular kind of exercise, could be eating a particular kind 700 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 4: of food. What makes me feel great? And then we 701 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 4: ask a really interesting question, and that is what do 702 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 4: you believe your purposes? And that is seeing is believing. 703 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 4: So it's a really fascinating question that makes you think 704 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 4: about what's in your life right now that if you 705 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 4: were to take a snapshot, a three sixty degree snapshot 706 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 4: of your life right now, with all of the characters 707 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 4: in play and the work that is, and your fitness 708 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 4: and your health, whatever it might be, if you were 709 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 4: to essentially get each of those elements to speak to 710 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 4: you about I'm in your life, Because like that, that's 711 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 4: essentially how you answer that question. 712 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 5: So the fact that I've got. 713 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 4: Some kids and that I'm naturally inclined to want to 714 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 4: spend time with my kids, and I want to do 715 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 4: the best job that I can with my kids. I know, 716 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 4: just knowing that part of my purpose is to be 717 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 4: a great dad, like I want to be a great 718 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 4: dad to my kids, because it's showing up in my life, 719 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 4: it's confirming my existence. 720 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 5: And then what's another thing it might. 721 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 4: Be, Like I've always enjoyed speaking, I've always enjoyed science, 722 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 4: and I've absolutely fallen in love with precision health, and 723 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 4: I know that it feels so right to be in 724 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 4: that and it just so happened that all of this 725 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 4: stuff conspired in the world so that I could meet, 726 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 4: you know, the leading guys in precision health and be 727 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 4: able to work alongside them. So that is reflecting back 728 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 4: to me in my life of I think I'm meant 729 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 4: to be speaking about precision health because all of those things. 730 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 5: So it's just that question. 731 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 4: Around what's actually in your life right now that's showing 732 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,280 Speaker 4: you what your purpose is, because part of your purpose 733 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 4: might be like right now, I've got cancer. Part of 734 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 4: my purpose is to understand cancer and to beat cancer. 735 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 4: Like that's a big important thing, Like whether you want 736 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 4: it to be in your life or not. So the 737 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 4: collection of those three things, think, feel, and believe. When 738 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,959 Speaker 4: you get that, then you try and while you stay 739 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 4: in the flow of it, you try and write a 740 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,320 Speaker 4: two sentence thing of If I was to summarize thinking, feeling, 741 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 4: and believing what my purpose is? What is my purpose? 742 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 4: It is amazing what falls out at the bottom, and 743 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 4: it's the values are really powerful. 744 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 5: Fad for that as well. 745 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 4: I found that people can get a very intuitive or 746 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 4: a deeper unconscious sense of their purpose through those questions 747 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,919 Speaker 4: because the answer kind of just falls out. They don't 748 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 4: have to think about what they value, but rather it's 749 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 4: it's coming from deeper instincts that they have. So that's 750 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 4: that's an exercise that we run, and I would welcome 751 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 4: you to try it because it's a it's bloody powerful mate. 752 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 2: We could bang on, but I'm actually going to pull 753 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 2: the pin because that's great. And that's that's probably enough. 754 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: I want you to tell everyone how they can find 755 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 2: you and your programs and your resources and connect with 756 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,399 Speaker 2: pH three sixty slash Shay Wellness and explore the six 757 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 2: health health types and learn a little bit about themselves 758 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 2: through your protocol or your from framework or your platform. 759 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 4: Thanks mate, Probably the easiest way to go. And I 760 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 4: say this each time, but I've actually got the web 761 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 4: address now, so I'm going to. 762 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 5: Say it right. It's Shade Dot Group. 763 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 4: So Shade Dot Group forward slash doctor Dash Cam Dash 764 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 4: McDonald like the Hamburger McDonald. Essentially, all of that on 765 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 4: that page is health, professional teachings and courses, corporate programs, schools, 766 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 4: just essentially contact page for everything that we're doing in 767 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 4: the Shade Group. But we want to no more than ever. 768 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 4: We want to have the most powerful impact we can 769 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 4: on the planet, and we know that that's got to 770 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 4: happen through people knowing themselves. So it's been thanks for 771 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 4: letting me share all of this today. It was definitely unexpected, 772 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 4: but that's what happens when you tell people you're doing 773 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 4: better than ever. People think it's weird. 774 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: No, I think it's bloody great. I've enjoyed this. 775 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 2: I won't say more than any other with you, but 776 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 2: it's equal first. And if you can't remember all of 777 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 2: that that Doctor Cam said about the web address, just 778 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 2: go to just google doctor Cam McDonald. 779 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: P H three sixty and you'll find your way there anyway. 780 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 2: Congratulations mate on the revelation and the downloads and the 781 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,720 Speaker 2: ongoing transformation. 782 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: It's amazing. 783 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's integration time now, so it's it's been a 784 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 4: really cool process. But no, thank you, thank you for 785 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 4: the encouragement. 786 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, love it mate. It's great to see. We'll say 787 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 1: goodbye Affair Tiff. Thanks to you too. 788 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 3: Thanks guys,