1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm producer Xander, and welcome to Big Business. 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: Today. 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to be talking with Britney about if she 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: was to leave the business, would she sell or would 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: she close it? 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: Close it? 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 3: Wait before we get into that, and that's exactly what 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 3: we're talking about. Can you recite my entire intro of 9 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 3: my main episodes? 10 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 4: Come on? 11 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: Okay? Oh no, this is really going to show how 12 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: commuted I am. 13 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 3: To the Podcastyep, you edit every episode shortly, I do. 14 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 4: Do you want me to give you a head start? 15 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: No, I can, I'll give it a go. 16 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 4: Okay. 17 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Britney Saunders. 18 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 4: Oh my god, and welcome to me and. 19 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: Welcome to Big Business. 20 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: By the places where business is far from boring. 21 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: I somehow managed to build an empire. 22 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: From the garage underneath my house, and I'm here to 23 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: tell you share it all with you, from the winds, 24 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: the mistakes, the tough, challenging times, and the funny moments 25 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: in between. So, whether you're in the business already already 26 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: looking to start, you're not in the game, not in 27 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 1: the game, or you just want to hear the tea 28 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: almost this this is hard podcast for you. Coming up 29 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: on today's episode. 30 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 4: That would be a good, funny little video. 31 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 3: Okay, so Melissa has asked me when I did a 32 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: question box on my Instagram, if you decided to step 33 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 3: away from Fate, would you close or sell? 34 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 4: Then it says. 35 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: Could you watch someone else be in But then it 36 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: cuts off, So I'm guessing she's saying, could you watch 37 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: someone else be in charge? 38 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: Now? 39 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: I think you have told me or said on the 40 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: pot in the past that you have had people approach 41 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: you to buy a stake in Fate. Yes, has anyone 42 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: ever approached you to completely take over the business? 43 00:01:58,720 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 4: Someone? 44 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: Only one person has DMed me. I met this person 45 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: in real life and it was just like interesting interaction, 46 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: and then they sent me a DM and just like. 47 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 4: It was just a really like would you ever sell Fate? 48 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 4: Like it was just full stop Yes, that's all it 49 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 4: was in the DM. 50 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: And then I was like, I think this person didn't 51 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: understand like the size of Fate, and like, you know, 52 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: I think they just like randomly asked that. But I 53 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 3: met that person in real life like the day before 54 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: or whatever. But they're the only two times that I've 55 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: had anyone show any interest. 56 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 4: I mean, that's a really hard. 57 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: One, Like I would obviously want to say I'd want 58 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: to sell it. But then it is interesting and I 59 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 3: can understand why this person asked because like, at the 60 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 3: same time, it is my legacy and it would be 61 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 3: even though the question was cut off because the stupid 62 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: question box, Like they said, like, would it be hard 63 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 3: to see someone else like in charge of running Fate. 64 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 4: I think it would be. 65 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: So it's a tough one, like I would want to say, yeah, 66 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: I would sell it rather than just closing it down. 67 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: I think with you being involved in it, like, there's 68 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: so much of you in it, so I can imagine 69 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: it would be hard for you to still be involved, 70 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: say be like a twenty percent owner, and then watch 71 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: that part of you change within the business. I feel 72 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: like you'd have to be so completely removed from it 73 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: and be like it's not me any anymore. It's a 74 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: different beast, and I can handle not having to watch 75 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: this change and be a. 76 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: Part of it. 77 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it would depend on what the scenario is, 78 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: because that for example, like what you've said this Zander, 79 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: when you sell your business, you could like, let's say 80 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: I could sell Fate, but then whoever I sell it to, 81 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: Let's say I sell it to a company. We could 82 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 3: have an agreement that for the next two years after 83 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: that I was still the face of the company, and 84 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: I get paid however much, Like I could say, I 85 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: want to be paid this much every year, and for 86 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: the next two years, I'm still going to be the 87 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: face of the brand. I'm still going to be all 88 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 3: the content because like you don't have to tell social 89 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: media when you do that kind of stuff, Like for 90 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: the next two years, I could just still fully pretend 91 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 3: that I'm the owner of the company. I could get 92 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: paid however much it is that I put on myself 93 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: as a price, but I could have like nothing to 94 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: actually do with the operations of the business. Like you 95 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 3: could do something like that if you wanted to. You could, 96 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 3: like you would make up the agreement however you would 97 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 3: want it to be. 98 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: Or could you put in conditions about things that you 99 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: are non negotiable, changes that you don't want change with. 100 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: I'm sure, yeah, Like I've obviously never done anything like that, 101 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: like selling a business, but I'm sure whoever it was 102 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: that you were selling it to, you could like write 103 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: it all down to a t of how you I 104 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 3: think it's completely negotiable with whoever you're selling it to. 105 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 4: But again, like I'm not experienced in that. 106 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: Weirdly enough, like I'm sure someone could come in, and 107 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: but when I say someone, I probably don't mean an individual. 108 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: Like a company could come in and buy Fate. They'd 109 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: have to change a lot. But that's what happens when 110 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: companies get taken over by another company. They come in 111 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: and they do a huge sweep of the company, Like 112 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: they'll lay off employees that don't need to be in positions, 113 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 3: they'll replace employees, they'll create new roles. 114 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 4: They'll have like a board of directors that come in. 115 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: Like that's exactly what it's like when a company gets 116 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 3: bought out by another company. 117 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 4: They'd have to change a lot because Fate. 118 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: Isn't in a position now where I could just give 119 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: it to someone tomorrow, because that person would have so 120 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: much fucking work to do because I'm so like I 121 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: buy all of our stock, Yeah, I order all of 122 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: our stock. Any other company, like the CEO and founder 123 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: doesn't do the stock ordering, so like they'd instantly have 124 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: to hire like a head buyer. 125 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: But a lot of a lot of the times those 126 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: CEOs or head to the company haven't been there and 127 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: built the company from yes, exactly. 128 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: Right, Like there's a lot of roles that I do 129 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 3: that I shouldn't. Like I love to do it and 130 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: I'm so involved and that's why I do it. But 131 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 3: there's so many roles that if I've sold it to 132 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: someone else, they'd have to hire like four people to 133 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 3: fill my role kind of thing. But that's exactly what 134 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 3: happens when companies get sold, like new people get put 135 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 3: in and the whole structure of the company gets changed. 136 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: But I guess, to like answer the question in a nutshell, 137 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: would I simply just close it or would I sell it? 138 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 4: It would depend on my financial position. 139 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 3: Like if I'm going to close it and shut it 140 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 3: down and have like nothing left for me and then 141 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 3: leave myself all out high and dry, I don't think 142 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 3: that's the smartest option versus selling it and actually getting money, 143 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: if you know what I mean. Why would I just 144 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: shut it and walk away? 145 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: But there have to be such a reason just to close, 146 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 2: Like you wouldn't just be like I've had enoughing just 147 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: going to close it down. 148 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 3: Exactly what I mean, if you've had enough and you 149 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 3: want to close it down, you would simply just sell 150 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: it to someone. 151 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: Because it's also not just you, and you're actually like, 152 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: you're responsible for what. 153 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: You've got seven employees. 154 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: Now if you decide to close, that's affecting all of them, 155 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: huge amount of people. 156 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: That are also connected to those people. 157 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 4: In their lives. 158 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: So exactly, it's a lot to think about and a 159 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: lot to handle. 160 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you would only ever sell a business if it 161 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: was in a position where you could sell it if 162 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: it was doing well. 163 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: I don't think. 164 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: I think if I was to close fate and just 165 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: decide on my own I'm going to close this thing, 166 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: the business would surely have to be in a bad 167 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 3: position for me to say that, because I don't think 168 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 3: many people are going to be that open to buying 169 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: a business that's in shambles, although some businesses do go 170 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: into liquidation or whatever and then get scooped up by 171 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 3: someone and they revive it. 172 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: So I think my answer to the question is I'd sell. 173 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: It, as crazy as that sounds. Any is there any takers? 174 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: Is there anyone out there that wants to put in 175 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: an offer? 176 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll put it an offer. 177 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: It won't be much, but what's your office? And my 178 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: offer will be my dignity at my. 179 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: Soul Okay, well i'll take that away for consideration. 180 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: Oh there's not much to take away. So that's a 181 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: lot of those. 182 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think I would sell it. 183 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 3: But it's weird to picture anyone buying Fate, and it 184 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: would be weird to watch. Let's say, if I sold 185 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: it to someone and they just took one hundred percent 186 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: ownership and I simply just walked away and said I've 187 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: got nothing to do with Fate anymore. It would be 188 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: really interesting to watch what would happen from there. But 189 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: I think when you're in that position where I've spoken 190 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 3: to other business owners that have sold these huge companies, 191 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: like you walk away, you take your money and that's it, 192 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 3: Like you don't care what they do with it, that's. 193 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 4: Up to them. 194 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: Would you start another business? 195 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm never going to work for someone else. 196 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 197 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: I say that to AJ all the time, like if 198 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: all of this fails, which touch, would it fucking doesn't? Like, 199 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: there's no way in hell that I'm just gonna go 200 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 3: back to my nine to five. 201 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: I wish I could do that. 202 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 3: And I feel mean when I say that, because I've 203 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: got people that work for me, that work to four 204 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: and eight to four, but for me personally. I could 205 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 3: never because that's like I fucking hated that, Like I 206 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: hated that. I would absolutely try to like innovate and 207 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: do something else new. All right, So AJ, you're going 208 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: back to being an electrician and I'm staying at home. 209 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be a stay at home girlfriend. 210 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: Sitting in the plunge pool. 211 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I definitely give a stab at something else. 212 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: I reckon, I do wedding content creation. 213 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: Gonna give Tommy Tommy you run for his money? 214 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 4: No, I just do, Like it's really clever. 215 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: I've seen so many people doing it now, not interviewing 216 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: people at weddings, but just like capturing content for the 217 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 3: bride and her bride squad on her day, like doing 218 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 3: all the trends and the reels and like just all 219 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: that instant content. 220 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 4: I'd give that a go. 221 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 3: I reckon, that's an easy, good one that I'm obviously 222 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: experienced in just creating content. 223 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: I think I do something along those lines. 224 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: See. I don't think I could even go and work 225 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 3: at another company and be their social media person, because 226 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 3: then have someone else tell me what to do. I 227 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: don't deal well with people telling me. 228 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 4: What to do. 229 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: I don't deal well with it either, and I am 230 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: in that situation. 231 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: So but then again, I haven't worked in another business 232 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: for over ten years, so who knows. Like, maybe I 233 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: could go and work for another company and be in 234 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 3: their social media team. It would be completely different because 235 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: the last job that I had was working like nine 236 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: to five in a boring office. Obviously, I wouldn't go 237 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: and get myself into that field. But maybe if I 238 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 3: did go and get myself a marketing job or a 239 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 3: social media job, I would love it because it's fucking 240 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four and I haven't worked in over ten years. 241 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: I hate being told like to do things but me 242 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: knowing there's a better way, but me having to do it. 243 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that way like that. 244 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: In any job situation where that happens, it is the. 245 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:49,119 Speaker 2: Most frustrating thing I can go through. 246 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: Because I'm like, well, no, this way's better than they 247 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: go well, this is the way we're doing it. That 248 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: it drives me like I want to like I want 249 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: to break a window, Like I'm. 250 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: Like, I hope I'm not like that anyway. That's my 251 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 3: answer to the question. I'd sell it and it's bye bye. Yeah, 252 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: I'd sell it and say see you later and watch 253 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 3: watch it crumble. 254 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: Right, crumble cookies. 255 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, no, I mean. 256 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 3: Someone could buy it and make it a billion times better. 257 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 3: But let's hope that I never have to cross that bridge. 258 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 3: But thank you so much for sending in that question, 259 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 3: and you've got me thinking about the end of ACTI.