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Speaker 1: Are you going to draw first? Again? Cool? No problem,

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Speaker 1: winner draws first. That's okay. Welcome backstage with Cooper Maddie

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Speaker 1: John's and today we're going to preview a week one

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Speaker 1: of the finals. Really exciting expecting a big final series

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Speaker 1: and what we're going to do. We're going to we're

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Speaker 1: going to sit here and we're going to debate which

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Speaker 1: side wins. Cooper's going to have a side. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to have a side. Say, for instance, the first game

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Speaker 1: we're going to do, we've got the Storm and the Sharks, right, well,

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Speaker 1: you know who's going to be the coach of the Sharks.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be the coach of the Melbourne Storm.

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Speaker 1: Who do we decide gets what gets what team? How

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Speaker 1: we're going to do We're going to both draw a

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Speaker 1: card each. The one who's got the highest card gets

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Speaker 1: to pick which side they want to coach. There's been

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Speaker 1: difficult in preparation. Not only are we preparing for full

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Speaker 1: finals games, but we've had to prepare for eight teams,

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Speaker 1: so a little bit of work's gone into this one.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Coops, I've never sat here and debated

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Speaker 1: football with you. I've just worked out there. I'm really

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Speaker 1: interested to see what you got.

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Speaker 2: I thank you.

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Speaker 3: I am a I'm a pretty good mass debator, so

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to debate again.

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Speaker 2: You too, I hope, I want.

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Speaker 3: There are sides that are easier to debate for I

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Speaker 3: suppose that's the that's the big thing. There are some

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Speaker 3: sides that debate for themselves. There's going to be some

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Speaker 3: hard justifications. I think if we ended up with some

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Speaker 3: sides that we don't actually.

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Speaker 2: Think are going to win.

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Speaker 1: Now, what's going to happen at the end of it? Jack,

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Speaker 1: John's he had, He's going to be the He's going

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Speaker 1: to be the judge, He's going to be the school board.

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Speaker 1: At the end, Jack will say or present, what are

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Speaker 1: we going to do this? JACKI are you going to

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Speaker 1: hold a bit of paper? How are we going to

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Speaker 1: do this? What do you want to do with? Just

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Speaker 1: you just declare?

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Speaker 2: And Jack will who he thinks is going.

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Speaker 1: To well he thinks is who he thinks wins and

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Speaker 1: who is man of the match. Now, for Jack that

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Speaker 1: might be his own judgment, or he might go off

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Speaker 1: something that you and I have done or said, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever do a debating in school?

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Speaker 1: I've never done debating in my life.

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Speaker 2: Never, it's didn't do debating.

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Speaker 1: What you got to understand is I don't debate. Well,

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Speaker 1: I haven't done it for a long time because when

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Speaker 1: Trush tells me to do something, I just do it.

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Speaker 2: You do You're a pushover.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why you've been married for so long.

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Speaker 1: Right out here we go coops. First game, Melbourne Storm

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Speaker 1: versus CNA Sharks. What do you want to do? You

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Speaker 1: draw first?

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Speaker 2: Can I draw first?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Baby, let me have a crack. I got a jack,

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Speaker 2: So if you get higher, you get to pick.

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Speaker 1: I'll go to seven.

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Speaker 3: Oh well I'll pick.

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Speaker 2: I'll pick the Melbourne Storm.

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Speaker 1: Then will surprise surprise?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your old club, my old it is my old

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Speaker 1: So we've got some different categories. Firstly, who's your game breaker?

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Speaker 3: I think when they played against Penrith at Blue Belt

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Speaker 3: He's been carrying a groin or and he probably hasn't

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Speaker 1: They reckons his first Devastate of Origin match, which he

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Speaker 3: You can see him kind of you know, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: We're gonna we're going to We're going to really pressure

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Speaker 1: No surprise there, now, Nico. This is this is what

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Speaker 1: with and change Nico's mentality go into those really big games.

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Speaker 1: What he's been playing with the Sharks. The Sharks football

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one.

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Speaker 3: Well that leads funny to say Nico, because he's actually

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Speaker 1: Of what was it? Who worries me?

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Speaker 2: Who worries me? Ad you out your side?

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Speaker 3: Well that's I had Niko as well, and I know

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Speaker 3: Nico hasn't you know, he's come back from injury. He

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Speaker 3: probably hasn't played at one hundred percent this year. He's

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Speaker 3: been good in patches, but I liked what I saw

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Speaker 3: you said, he probably he probably has gone away from

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Speaker 1: So that's what happens when you stay in the halves

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Speaker 3: So he's the one I'm worried about.

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Speaker 1: Harry worries me with you guys, I mean you can

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Speaker 3: I mean that's you're really setting yourself up for multiple

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Speaker 3: spine like the Melbourne Storm because you let him go

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Speaker 1: The next category ruder, Where do you see vulnerability in

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Speaker 3: I think, after watching a particularly game on the weekend,

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Speaker 2: It's pretty powerful. Man. Have you ever tried to tackle.

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Speaker 1: I haven't tried to tackle any player in the competition

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Speaker 3: I think that right edge they haven't their left edge

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Speaker 3: I just told you how I was going to play.

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Speaker 2: Back at that left edge. That's that's where I think.

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Speaker 1: Earlier this year, as you said, Melbourne Storm would defeat

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Speaker 1: on it before, no Nicko Hines, there was no Bradon Trendle.

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Speaker 1: What happened was without Trendle and Nico the Knights, the Sharks,

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Speaker 1: Now this is crucial, This is crucial for my team.

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Speaker 3: Jackson, your prediction, Jack Melourn Melbourne Storm man in the match.

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Speaker 3: If you go, you've heard of their first Melbourne Storm

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Speaker 1: That's you win? You win, you one round one? Okay,

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Speaker 1: Let's go Cowboys Nights. Okay, are you going to draw

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Speaker 3: Jack again, Jack of hearts, not lying.

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Speaker 1: Making sure six of spades, six of spades? Right? Are

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Speaker 3: Knights with the Cowboys, I'm gonna go Cowboys first of all.

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Speaker 3: Game breaker, my game breaker. A close friend of the podcast,

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Speaker 3: Scotty Drinkwater.

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Speaker 1: Drinking can be rocks or diamonds.

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Speaker 1: Final football. You know you're going to send him out there.

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Speaker 3: I think the beauty of Scott drink order is you

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Speaker 1: Just thinking there, you know, just you know, because football

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Speaker 2: Nah, I don't think they defend their as well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for that information.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes they could rock up.

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Speaker 3: They could beat Penrith by forty, they could beat Melbourne

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Speaker 1: This is what I tell my Knights. I say, boys,

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Speaker 1: First thing I said, have look at this team. Look

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to that.

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Speaker 2: Who's your game breaker?

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Speaker 1: Well, this is going to surprise you. Kaylen Pongmer. Oh

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Speaker 1: It's one of the best performance I've seen. You know

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Speaker 2: Best this year without a doubt.

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Speaker 1: Think about here's the thing with Kleen right, Calen sweet

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Speaker 1: That one who worries your mind?

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Speaker 3: of weeks he's been good, but that game on the weekend,

436
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 3: he is It's almost like he sparked back into his

437
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 3: Dally mu form, like he's finished. He's finished the year

438
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 3: really strong. And I think Kaitlin is one of those

439
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 3: players where he's one of those players similar to a

440
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 3: Tom Travovich where they're probably the only two players in

441
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 3: the camp where if they're on on their day, they

442
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 3: can single handedly probably beat a team. They can probably

443
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 3: carry their team if their team's a little bit off

444
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,360
Speaker 3: as well. I think Kaitlin's one of those players. If

445
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 3: the Cowboys don't do a good job nullifying kayl and

446
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 3: pong are up in Townsville, I think he's their biggest threat.

447
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 1: Isn't funny you look at certain players coops and you

448
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 1: just recognize their power straight away. Like when g I

449
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: got a ball and we just go out of the

450
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 1: top of the guys, you see the power and other

451
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 1: players Kalan's power, he hides it well like you. When

452
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 1: you think of Kayle and Ponger, you don't think of

453
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 1: strength and power. But you watch him on the key Chasers.

454
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,880
Speaker 1: When he checks off that left foot, guys will hit him,

455
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 1: but he's so strong through the hips. He just busts through.

456
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 3: Well, he's pretty thick, Like he's a thick dude when

457
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 3: he gets his shirt off from that in quick between

458
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 3: the years, when he gets his shirt off and that

459
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 3: even his lower body, Jack can attest to this.

460
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 2: Jack played with him up there. But like his.

461
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 3: Quads and glutes are freaking huge, Like he's a big dude.

462
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 3: He's a thick set dude. And obviously you add speed

463
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 3: and footwork to that. When you're trying to tackle the

464
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 3: bloke who's moving that quick and moving laterally, it's so

465
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 3: hard to take them down.

466
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: Your pack worries me. Your pack of Fowards when they

467
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 1: get it right, is close to the best pack in

468
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: the comps. So the pack's just powerful and dangerous. You

469
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 1: two bag growers, Luki and nan I, they are potentially

470
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: the best back round in the competition. The middle man

471
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 1: you've got Cotter whose man, he's good play, he's a

472
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 1: real hound off McLean tell Malala McClain, Rhyese robson feeding

473
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 1: off the yardage. That concerns me. I want when I

474
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 1: come out, and when I come out in that game

475
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting in the coach's box, I'm quite happy

476
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: if I see the Cowboys start by playing expensive. When

477
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 1: they play expensive football, Okay, they're entertaining, they're good to watch,

478
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 1: but in my opinion, it takes them away from their

479
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 1: greatest strength.

480
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that takes me to the vulnerability. What I

481
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 3: see is vulnerable in your side. I had the middle

482
00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 3: third of the field. I think just up there in

483
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 3: Townsville in the heat, I think that that fast leg

484
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 3: speed pack of the cows, you know, particularly with if

485
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 3: you're using Luki and Nani on the edges to give

486
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 3: you forwards a bit of arrest, they're going to really

487
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 3: trouble Newcastle's pack. I just think that. And it's anybody

488
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 3: who hasn't played up there. It's hot, it's sweaty, it's

489
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 3: so hard to so hard to hold onto the footy

490
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 3: out there, and it's hard, it's really hard to wrestle.

491
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: It's one of the only places.

492
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 3: Where you can get a lot of quick play the

493
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 3: balls because it's hard.

494
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 2: Everybody's so sweaty.

495
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 3: It's actually hard to get people onto their back, so

496
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 3: the rock speed gets very quick up there.

497
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: So I think the Cowboys want to play through the middle.

498
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: It's interesting to say that could when the Cowboys first

499
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: come into the competition, we went up and played them

500
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: for the first time. It didn't really know what to expect.

501
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 1: You walked in the dressing room and the dressing room

502
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: was air conditioned. It was beautiful, and you sit there

503
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: going okay, and then all of a sudden it lells

504
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: you into full sense security and you put the boots on,

505
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: you go and warm up. And we when we first

506
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: played them for the first time, we just did normal

507
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: warm up, normal length. Mate, we're sapped. Oh, we come

508
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: back in and so it takes you a long while

509
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: to get used to really how you should play. In Townsville,

510
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: we struggle to win up there. Eventually we finally worked

511
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: out how to win and we won by doing less. Again,

512
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: doing less. We played and we said, rather than scoring points,

513
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: let's just think about how many repeat sets we can get.

514
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: We end getting twelve in a game. Which is a

515
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: record for the club, and we beat them as a

516
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 1: result because sweat.

517
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 3: Those people have played footy before in the heat. When

518
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: sweat hits the ball, comand to water, you'd rather rain

519
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 3: is fine, Like rain's fine. When sweat hits a football,

520
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 3: he's not so slippery.

521
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 1: Yep, very hard to push the ball around the Cowboys,

522
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: you guys, You guys just want to dictate the terms

523
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: of the fight. And look, that's nothing new unique. All

524
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 1: teams want to dictate the style of the fight. But

525
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 1: the style of the Cowboys want to play is fast

526
00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: and open, which is really traditionally not finals football. All right.

527
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are vulnerable to a grafting, gritty game of football,

528
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: a typical finals game, A finals game, a game, a

529
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 1: low scoring, tough, physical game. The Cowboys in the last

530
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: two years, that has been their kryptonite. That's the vulnerability.

531
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: I'll see with you guys.

532
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 3: If you go crazy, then we used to call me superman. Sorry,

533
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 3: that's all I was thinking about last category. How are

534
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 3: we going to play?

535
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: To play? Going to beat it?

536
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 3: Sort of just touched on it then through the middle, fast,

537
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 3: out of the advantage line. I think it's all in

538
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 3: that all in that pack. You can't bring Scott drink,

539
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 3: water and stuff into the game off the back of

540
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 3: slow play the ball. So they need their forward pack

541
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 3: to just be rolling quick. And then it really brings

542
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: didon and the running game of did and.

543
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 2: Scott Drink into it.

544
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: Great player died and he.

545
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 2: Is your favorite player close to up there, he's on

546
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 2: the dice.

547
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to build out. We're going to build

548
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: their performance brick by brick. What what is I'm telling

549
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: my guys, my halves is that don't go out there

550
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: full of nerves and full of adrenaline and start pinging

551
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: the ball around because you do it. That is so

552
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 1: in big games. It's so easy to do. You get

553
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: the ball and you're ripping around the field. That's a

554
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: drenaline taking out. You've got to stead of yourself. If

555
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: you go back the ninety seven Grand Final, what's the

556
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: first twenty five minutes? Mate, Joey and I are so sideways.

557
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: It just took us so long to really settle into

558
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: a pattern. I'd said before about the Cowboys, how we

559
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: learned to beat the Cowboys by doing less and getting

560
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: repeat says I would say to the team, fellas, think this,

561
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: I don't want you to think about points in the

562
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: first half. What I want you to think about this

563
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: is every completed set is going to be a point

564
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: in the bank later in the game. So don't play

565
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: with patients. Work hard to get your sets, work hard

566
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 1: to get six agains and all those things, but don't

567
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: put pressure on you by pushing the ball around the park.

568
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: Just trust yourself that if you can complete a set,

569
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: if we get off, if we walk off at halftime

570
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 1: and the scores nil all but we've completed twenty from twenty,

571
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: trust yourself that twenty points is going to come. We

572
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: need to treat Calen Ponger as the cherry on top

573
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: of the cake, not the cake. We can't overly on him.

574
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: Let Caitlin's brilliance be the bonus. How we're gonna beat

575
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. We're gonna get We're gonna we're gonna play,

576
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna play simple, we're gonna play we're gonna have

577
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: a mistake free attack, we're gonna have a high energy defense,

578
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: and we're going to put in the right kicks at

579
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: the right time. And if we do that, I got

580
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: no doubt we win well.

581
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 3: Novacastian's jack prediction and Man of the match. Go Fletcher

582
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 3: Sharp and the Knights. Fletcher Sharp on a wing.

583
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: God. I like him.

584
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: He's a good player.

585
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: God, he's gonna be. He's going to be some sort

586
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: of play. It's gonna be. It's gonna be interesting with

587
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: the Knights because they tell me his best spots fullback.

588
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: Interesting what they do going forward. I wonder if that's

589
00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: eventually forces KP like lockiead did into six. Yeah, he

590
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: was interested. When you see really athletic guys, like guys

591
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: who are natural athletes, they have slightly bandied leaks. And

592
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: there was a shot of Fletcher standing there the other day.

593
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: I was watching. He has those athletic legs. He does

594
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: great legs, great legs, livers, great legs.

595
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: The next game. What we're doing, Penrith roosters.

596
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want it, but I'll let you go first.

597
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm due for a win. You go first, you draw it?

598
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 2: Ace?

599
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 3: Is that one or is it the highest? Because they

600
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 3: ace means both. What doesn't really matter? Does it probably won't.

601
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: Get well, it might get in fact another six?

602
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: All right, heart, Penrith. I'll choose Penrith quite surprise.

603
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, game breaker, I mean probably the big The big

604
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 3: story of the week is Nathan Clear are going to

605
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: going to play? I think whether he plays or he

606
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: doesn't play, I actually don't have him as the game

607
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 3: game breaker. I think he's going to be coming back

608
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 3: a little bit under Dannie'll have that shoulder heavily needled.

609
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 3: But I think Jerome Leui, I think he's actually having

610
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 3: his best year in the NRL this year. I think

611
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: he was outstanding State of Origins, particularly without Nathan, and

612
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: I think his club form this year has really I

613
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: don't think if he's played the way if he hasn't

614
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: played the way he hasn't, I don't think they made

615
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 3: the top four, and with how much of the year

616
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 3: Nathan missed, I think he's running games just threatening and

617
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 3: I just think he's in excellent form.

618
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: My game break is the combination of Manu and Tedesco,

619
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: and I'll explain why later and how we're going to play.

620
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: We need to play un orthodox style of football. Penrith

621
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: have beaten US ninth of the last nine meetings, and

622
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: if we go out and play exactly the same way

623
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: or attempt to play the same way, it's going to

624
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: be ten to row.

625
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: Wow.

626
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: Wow, I don't know about that well.

627
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: Picking two game breakers, I mean.

628
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: It was comb I'll get to why, Okay, right, what

629
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: was the next next thing?

630
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: Vulnerable?

631
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: Who? Who worries? Who worries you about?

632
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: I had James Tedesco.

633
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: I think he's he's actually flown really under the radar

634
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 3: this year, Teddy.

635
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: I don't think.

636
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 3: I actually think he's going to be a good chance

637
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: for Daly, probably because he's got resiled from the origin

638
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: side that people have kind of eyes haven't really been

639
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 3: on him at Clubland. I think he's been an excellent

640
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 3: job at Clubland for the Roosters, and I just think

641
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: he's really starting to get into some really good form.

642
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: I think he's getting back to that best when he's

643
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: swinging out the back of shape, threatening with his running game.

644
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 3: But his ball playing has been a real highlight as well.

645
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 3: On the weekend, set up a couple good tries for

646
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 3: I think it was Junior Ponger on the left wing

647
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 3: with some quick hands. So I think he's back into

648
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 3: some really good.

649
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: Fine, very very good performance. Who worries me again? I'll

650
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: go with Comba clearing Leui louis my Malee's coming back

651
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: and he will definitely play his name, But my malee

652
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: is he is going to play? Now, why that worries me?

653
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,239
Speaker 1: Is that not just just the combination just you know

654
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: they're going to form again and we've seen them before.

655
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: But I think Nathan comes back into this team and

656
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: forms commination with Jerome when Jerome is in the best

657
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: form of his career. So what worries me is that

658
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: combination going to another level?

659
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: Is if Nathan doesn't play? Who like how big?

660
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: Let me rephrase that.

661
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: How big of an effect if Nathan's not out there

662
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: against the Roosters does that have?

663
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: This is what I would do on my side, We

664
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: prepare like Nathan's playing. If the team sheet comes in

665
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: and there's no Nathan clear on the team sheet, that's

666
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: that's the cherry on top. Doesn't matter where we're preparing

667
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: to play Nathan.

668
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: But from penerist perspective, if you're a Panda fan listening

669
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 3: to this, how big of an effect is that going

670
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: to have on the side him not being him not playing?

671
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: I don't I don't care about your side, right, And

672
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: I said.

673
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: I was talking about the game. Forget about the game

674
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: for a second. More for an insight for the listeners.

675
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 3: I want to hear your opinion on it.

676
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: I think they've got a lot going for him.

677
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: Anyway.

678
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: Would I be really concerned now, I would not be

679
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: really concerned because they've been their Their football has been

680
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: the normal cells, but there's enough class there in the

681
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: way Jerome's playing.

682
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: Their attack was a.

683
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 3: Bit off against the Titans on the weekend, has been.

684
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: A little bit off. We'll get an but you know,

685
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: there's enough class there and Jeron's playing good enough to

686
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: cover for Nathan.

687
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: Vulnerability and the rooster side that I see. I think

688
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 3: it's in the spine, particularly the halves combination.

689
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: At the moment.

690
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: I think they played really well against Souths, but South

691
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: South have been a sellows.

692
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: Themselves this year.

693
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 3: I think some of the tries they scored they wouldn't

694
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 3: score against the Pendrith defense.

695
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm not I.

696
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: Think Sander did a good job in that game, but

697
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: I just think not having Sam Walker there and it

698
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: took so long to get the combination and the balance

699
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: right in that spine of Brandon, Kierri, Walker and Tenesco.

700
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 3: Losing Brandon and Walker, which has taken so long to gel,

701
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 3: I think that's where you probably beat him, particularly the

702
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: combination of the halves. That's where they're vulnerable. Like if

703
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: you go after him and they're kicking game with lots

704
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: of kick pressure and just lots of making them make

705
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: a heap of tackles. I think that's where we'll probably

706
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,719
Speaker 3: see vulnerability in the rousters.

707
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: Look the obvious vulnerability from my angle and people look

708
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: at is Nathan Shoulder. But think about it is you

709
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: can be too If you focus too much on Nathan Shoulder, right,

710
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: you're going to tie yourself in knots. If you get

711
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: there and you go right, we're going to do our

712
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: whole Our whole game plan and all our attacking sequences

713
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: is about going to Nathan all the time. You will

714
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: you will tie yourself in knots. You've always got to

715
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: understand if you've got a player an opposition playing the

716
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: team that you want to target, win If you win

717
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: the battle of the battle of the player the ball,

718
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: in the battle of the yardage, you're going to find

719
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: them anyway. You just go about the football you need

720
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: to play. Penrith aren't playing with the same energy as

721
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: they have in previous campaigns, successful campaigns that they have

722
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: played a lot of very very tough football for a

723
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: long time. And I can just start to see that

724
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: the toll that's taken on their middlemen, that's where I

725
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: see some vulnerability.

726
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: Funny you say that twenty eight En Grand Final, when

727
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: Cooper Kronk had his broken scapular and he played, he

728
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: needled it up and played anyway. There was a lot

729
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 3: of rumors he was going to play on Melbourne. Our

730
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 3: game a game plan that week was obviously, a bloke's

731
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 3: out there with a broken scapular and he's their key half.

732
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 3: You go at him to make him try to get

733
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: Roux speed through. We make some line breaks, hopefully through

734
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: that shoulder. But Cooper was really smart with hiding himself

735
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: in defense, put himself on the wing a couple of times,

736
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: made himself really hard to get to in defense. And

737
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 3: what we found with our attack upon reviewing the game

738
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: was we were so because we couldn't get to him

739
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 3: at different times. It probably slowly rattled us a little

740
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 3: bit in the sense where we still tried to get

741
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 3: the attack and rock speed there, but he wasn't oftentimes

742
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: in the position we wanted him to get to, so

743
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: our attack and we found ourselves getting real sideways just

744
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 3: to try to get to Cooper.

745
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: Cron That's exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah, if you

746
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: go into a game and you go that guy, that's

747
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: what we're going to like. You're actually taking away very

748
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: often from your own strengths and how you should be playing.

749
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 3: If I'm Penrith this week, I'm playing use it. They

750
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 3: do it anyway. They use their back roll as a

751
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 3: hell of a lot on drop offs for ruck speed.

752
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 3: I think I think this week, or to go to

753
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 3: the next level, you'd want the two roosters halves Kiri

754
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 3: and Sand and Smith to be making twenty five tackles

755
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: plus each. I think you get a lot of ruck

756
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: speed around there. And then when you target halves. I

757
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: know I've heard Joey talk about it plenty of times

758
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 3: when you put pressure on halves, the lack of trust

759
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 3: it creates. But from the back roller on the inside

760
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 3: and the center on the outside, you get them trying

761
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: to protect their halves a lot more so. I think

762
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 3: that's where you find a lot of joy on the edges.

763
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 3: If you're Penrith, I'm putting Manu into six. I've said

764
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: this last couple of weeks, hence wire.

765
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: At the top that we're going to play on orthodox

766
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: and we're going to play different. We're going to go

767
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: for a different formula for a different result. Manu to

768
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: six to Pernuit to left center. I get Kiri to

769
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: run the whole field. Either have Sandersmith or doctor Clay

770
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: starting at nine, and I still bring Connor Watson off

771
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: the bench. I don't need Connor out there, okay, emptying

772
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: his petrol tank and bust in a guard in the

773
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: softening up period. I bring him on after twenty five

774
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: minutes and just let him go.

775
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: Do you think they will do that?

776
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: That wouldn't surprise me. I don't know. That wouldn't surprise me.

777
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: Our attack is geared toward attacking Penris big middlemen with

778
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: Teddy and Joey Marnho. That's why put many when I

779
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: said when I said, the vulnerability is through the middle

780
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: and the energy in the middle of the field. That's

781
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: why I put Marno into six. And this does a

782
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: few things Cooper. It doesn't pen withthon penrith if Fatigu's

783
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: fatigue's key yardage and it just breaks them down. You know,

784
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: they become less they become less effective in yardage. It

785
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: doesn't penrith on penrith in the fact that Penrith, you

786
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: said before the drop offs, the drop offs, drop offs

787
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: left and right, doing a toll. Well, I say to mind, blokes, mate,

788
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: we just keep attacking the big blokes in the middle

789
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: of the field. Play really simple, just keep attacking them.

790
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: The more they miss, the tighter they get. Now, if

791
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: Penrith can press their defense, of course you shift the

792
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: ball and you take the motors. But what we do

793
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 1: is we come back towards the post, okay, with bodies

794
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: of motion looking for short passes in there around James Fisher,

795
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: Harris and Liota. Now, if you can do that right,

796
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: if you can get you know, the engine that drives

797
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: the Penrith ship are those big middlemen going forward. So

798
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 1: if you can, if you can make them really work hard,

799
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: and on top of that, you can target Nathan as

800
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: far as target he's kicking and pressureing, you can, mate,

801
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: you can really really do a number on Penrith as

802
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: far as as far as their yardage is concerned, as

803
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: far as their ability to win that. The other thing

804
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: that is doing is you've got to kick well right,

805
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: You've got to kick long, and you need to have

806
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: a hell of a kick chase. If you can do

807
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: that and trap them down there again. It all compounds.

808
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: What starts to happen is Leota and Fisher, Harris and

809
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: the other Fords are going to travel a long way

810
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: back to get behind the ball. It's just a bit

811
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: like we said, it's the jigsaw puzzle. It's bit by

812
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: bit by bit that starts to fatigue Penrith. For for

813
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: the roosters, for we're going to play the long game,

814
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: but again we're going to play unorthodox and we're going

815
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: to put Marno into six.

816
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 3: Jack John's final prediction Roosters, Penrith, Who have you got, Penrith?

817
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: And Man of the match is going to be Jerome.

818
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: Well, there he is. If Jack gets imagine if Jack gets.

819
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: Everything right this round, the Oracle the Golden touch some

820
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 3: going to go first again?

821
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: Why not due?

822
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: You are due five five of spade.

823
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: Three.

824
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 3: God hates me. If Jackson right, God hates me. Jack's

825
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 3: the oracle. You are the asshole.

826
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: Thanks.

827
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 3: Last game, Manly Bulldogs. I'm going to pick Manly buzz

828
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 3: game breaker for me. Have a guess who it's going

829
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: to be.

830
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: Tell me Turbo.

831
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: Tell me Turbo coming to Trovich. He's coming back into

832
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 3: the side coming off the back of a bad ac

833
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 3: joint injury. One of the injuries where you can play

834
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 3: through it. They hurt, They do hurt a lot. Tommy's

835
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 3: pretty tough guy. He'll he'll needle it up pretty heavily,

836
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 3: i'd imagine, But yeah, he's he's just how he's been playing,

837
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 3: particularly since he's come back, like from injury. Started at Cena,

838
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 3: had a shaky game, but then as soon as they

839
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: put him back to fullback, big game.

840
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: He's just been.

841
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 3: Back into that. Daly informed that he that he won

842
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: that year. I mean, there's actually rumors going around that

843
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 3: he's a good chance of getting the Dalian medal. People

844
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: have calculated it. If he does, it'll be it'll be

845
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 3: a phenomenon. I think maybe missing that last game through

846
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 3: injury could hurt him. But he's just when he's on.

847
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: Just like we said about Klamponga before, he's just one

848
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 3: of the Him and Klein are probably the only two

849
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: players in the comp that strike to mind when they

850
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 3: do it, they are so important to their side, and

851
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 3: they are they can literally lift their team to a win.

852
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: I'm curious how bad directing the shoulder is mainly been

853
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: very quiet on it.

854
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: Uh well, I've seen him.

855
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: The day after he did it, we went out and

856
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 3: watched Brad Parker's retirement game for the Blacktown. It's it's

857
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: a high like it's a high grade.

858
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: It's not.

859
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: It's not a great it wasn't a final, it wasn't

860
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 1: a final game. Di reckoning play.

861
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: He probably have another week off.

862
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 3: I'd say, you know, it's it's it's one of those

863
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 3: injuries where if it if it's a final, that's the

864
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 3: That's the nature of shoulders though. You can unless you know,

865
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 3: unless it's Cooper Cronk standard where it's a broken scapular

866
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 3: and you just you just play through because the last

867
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 3: game of the season and ac joint you can grit

868
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 3: your teeth and get through. But they are, particularly when

869
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 3: it's a high grade, they're very hard to They are painful.

870
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: Those nerves and ligaments sit at the top of the

871
00:40:59,480 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: A C.

872
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be worried about it.

873
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 3: Come you know, if they get through to the Grand Final,

874
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: particularly because now they go to go the hard way

875
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 3: in terms of they'll go week one, week two, pre

876
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 3: LIMB Grand Final. Come if they get to the GF,

877
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 3: come that Grand Final, that shoulder will be dying for

878
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: a rest.

879
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: My game breakers, Dog's left side. They've been been one

880
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: of the best combinations in the competition this year. Burton

881
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: kick out, Bronze and Cherry in the Fox and Burton

882
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: and Bronson missed last week, so they're going to be

883
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: They're going to be fresh and ready to fire that

884
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: edge that there's just so much strike and power on it.

885
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: So they're my game breakers.

886
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 3: My game Who I find dangerous in your side? That's

887
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 3: the next category. I actually had a little undercover one.

888
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 3: Kind of Tracy.

889
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: I really like.

890
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: Kind of Tracy as a player is the mold of

891
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 3: Dylan Edwards. His kick returns is extremely strong, but his

892
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: push and fitness, he's just such a fit dude, and

893
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: he's always pushing and asking question. I think he's had

894
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 3: it's easily been his best year in the NRL this year.

895
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 3: He was always one of those players at the Sharks

896
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 3: who you were going, why don't they why isn't he

897
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: getting to go? Like they obviously had a lot of

898
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: depth in the outside backs and he wasn't nailed down

899
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 3: in one position. But I think he's a I think

900
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 3: he's been nearly one of their best or years. Kind

901
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 3: of Tracy and He's someone who's very dangerous, particularly in

902
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: finals games when you know you need your fit and

903
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 3: consistent players playing well.

904
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a wolf for Kindor to really find

905
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: his spot. South Sydney had big raps on him. They

906
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: had him in the halves, just didn't suit him.

907
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: He kept getting hurt too.

908
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: He's got no breaks, you know what I mean. There's

909
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: like very similar to Connor Watson kind of was in

910
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: the harves, but he's found his spot somewhere else. My

911
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: worries me. Look, Tom Turbo noted about it, of course,

912
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: you know with Tom. It's look with Tom. He's the

913
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 1: thing about Tom that makes him difficult. It's not about

914
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: stopping plays, shapes and sequences because Tom's strength is actually

915
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: direct first receiver of football. So we need to pressure

916
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: Tom from the inside from marker. That's what we've got

917
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: to do, mate. Our markers need to actually fade a

918
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: little bit, stand back a little bit from the play

919
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: the ball to actually give them give them the angle

920
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 1: to be able to get from the inside of Tom.

921
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: And here's the thing with Tom that I call it

922
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: the Talmlalo rule, is that Melbourne twenty seventeen, when tal

923
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: Malolo was absolutely just charging through everybody running three hundred meters.

924
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: Some weeks Melbourne Storm sat there going into the Grand

925
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: Final and they come up with the twal Malolo rule,

926
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: which is we don't we actually tackle old school. So

927
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: they've got their first marker. What I'm talking about now

928
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: with Tom to stand a little bit away from the

929
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: guy playing the ball. When tal Malalo took it, the

930
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: Melbourne Storm went in and tackled him low, chopped him,

931
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 1: chopped him low with a good old fashioned leaks tackle.

932
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: And I would do the same to Tom. That's how

933
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: to do it. The other one too, is Matt Burton.

934
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: I'd say to Burdo, they listen, mate, just we've got

935
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: to back ourselves here. I don't want to kick those

936
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: over and over, you know kicks those traditional ones. Mate.

937
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: If we're in we're anywhere near the halfway, brother, you

938
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: just hit some of those satanic torpie bombs. Because what

939
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: I want I want Tom catching the ball on his

940
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: heels as opposed to taking the ball aggressively and getting

941
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: back at us.

942
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 3: So that's what I do where I see vulnerability in

943
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 3: the bulldog side. You spoke about their left edge before

944
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 3: and how good they've been going I've got Bulldogs right edge,

945
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 3: particularly defensively. I think on the weekend against Cowboys, Murray

946
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 3: to A Lungey scored two or three, Valentine Home scored one.

947
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: It was I mean, it was.

948
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 3: One of their it was one of their poorer defensive displays.

949
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 3: After a year that they've actually had. I think they

950
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 3: were nearly the one of the best defensive teams in

951
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 3: the com on paper, but I think they just they

952
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 3: got a bit loose on the weekend. I think that

953
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: that right edge was you know, that was leaked a

954
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 3: lot of points there. And Manly's left edge has been

955
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: firing really well Brooks he has been playing extremely well

956
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: out in that left side. Tommy Turbo loves attacking that

957
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 3: side as well at the back of shape. And then

958
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 3: you've got Talao and Lehig Hopawhidi who have been in

959
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 3: phenomenal format on that left side. So I just think

960
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 3: that's where they want to attack.

961
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: I like that. I really like the fact you to

962
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: go that side for me. That encourages me because my

963
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: chief defender out there who communicates and makes the call,

964
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 1: Stephen Crichton. Crichton won't make the same mistakes again. Crichton

965
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: had last week off, and I think going into that game,

966
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: playing that game against the Cowboys, I think he'll go

967
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: back Critter, have a look at the tape, address what

968
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: went wrong and fix it. Goodness, Manly's vulnerabilities, their strength,

969
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: you know what it is forward pack size, size, this game,

970
00:45:54,200 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: this game presents a classic mismatch dogs smaller forwards, high skill, light,

971
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: footwork and speed, Manly size and power. Now we're going

972
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: to make this a game which suits our style because

973
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: you remember, Manly a couple of weeks ago mainly played

974
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: the Dogs and beat them quite well. The reason they

975
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: beat them was Manly were able to dictate the terms

976
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: of the fight. And you know, blokes like Homole, they

977
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: were just they were too big through the middle of

978
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: the Dogs. And everyone's saying, oh, the Dogs didn't have

979
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: the packet affords to win this competition. It's not that

980
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: they just need to dictate the style. That's what That's

981
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: what they need to do. If they can dictate the

982
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: style of the fight, the mismatch will work for them

983
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: this time.

984
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 3: If you if you were a half back in that

985
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 3: Dog side, are you would you throw the foot around

986
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 3: a lot and make them try to make meters on

987
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 3: the edges and make that pack move a lot and

988
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: go back rather than trying to take them on front

989
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 3: on through the middle, or would.

990
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 1: You possibly coops Possibly we'd look at a game plan

991
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: of possibly playing the game in reverse, which is, you know,

992
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 1: push the ball to the edges, loose in the middle

993
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: of Manly, then then golden with short passing. But I

994
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 1: don't want to give too much away. Are you gonna place?

995
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: I'd say through the middle, you know, Taniela Piseca through

996
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,479
Speaker 3: that middle, pushing with you, Nathan Brown's and Maddi Lodge,

997
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 3: who was really good on the weekend. I think that size,

998
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 3: like you said, in and around, particularly in around Reed Marny,

999
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 3: trying to get one on ones through that middle is

1000
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: where you'd break down the Bulldogs. I think, like you said,

1001
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 3: their biggest strength is their size and their pack when

1002
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 3: they're on. But I think the trouble for a lot

1003
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 3: of Manly fans has been and that's probably been the

1004
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 3: identity of them the last few years, is getting them

1005
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: consistently on every week. Sometimes you know, they roll any

1006
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 3: forward pack and then the next week they can you know,

1007
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: sort of show a lack of energy. Yeah, I think

1008
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 3: they did that on the weekend against the Sharks as well.

1009
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 3: Like they they were good in patches, but then there

1010
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 3: was a real lack of energy across the board of

1011
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 3: that pack.

1012
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: From the first set. Remember sitting together in the first

1013
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: set and going to a big note miss off first set.

1014
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: I said to you, I said, Shark's going to win this. Yeah, yeah,

1015
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: you just thought that Sharks kick down field in the

1016
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: first set mainly thoughts took three or four players to

1017
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: get back. So I don't energy's not there today.

1018
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: It is, And when I was at Manly, it was

1019
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 3: always something that the club that the whole team pride

1020
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 3: himself on, particularly when you're at home, is high energy

1021
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 3: and you play for that crowd. They really they really

1022
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 3: like that on the weekend. So I don't, you know,

1023
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 3: I don't want to say they're going to show up

1024
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: and do that, but I think the only way they

1025
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 3: beat Dogs is if that packs on. There's no way

1026
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: that they're going to show up and just get by by.

1027
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 3: You know, Turbo on his own. Turbo is that player,

1028
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 3: like I said, but he still needs the pack to

1029
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 3: do their job for him.

1030
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: To do his.

1031
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: Could be the Cherry on Top like Kail and Cherry

1032
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: on Top we're going to We're going to play a

1033
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 1: game that's going to burn you guys out of gas.

1034
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: That's how we're going to take the terms of the fight.

1035
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: We're going to play fast and we're going to keep

1036
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: the ball in plate of fatigue. Man, these big men

1037
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: in the middle. Now an example of that. We're coming

1038
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: out of yardage and we get a penalty, mate, no

1039
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: committee meetings, mate. As soon as the penalty goes away, Burdo,

1040
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: get the ball and just knock it down field and

1041
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: keep going one hundred miles an hour. Let's avoid putting

1042
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: the ball into touch, right, We're going to burn them

1043
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: out of gas in yardage. I want Connor, Tracy Bronson,

1044
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: Cherry Fox, Crichton and Jacob Kraz. I want them dominating

1045
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: the sets. And I'll tell you why, Manly, your pack

1046
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 1: of forwards derive confidence from collision winning collision. Remember last

1047
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: year you played the Melbourne Storm at home. Storm, We've

1048
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: going great. One of the first sets of six, Justin

1049
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: Ohen takes the ball up, Josh Laa just wipes him out.

1050
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you, blokes. Everyone elevates. I'm going to

1051
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: deny you that. I'm going to make these smaller guys.

1052
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to make you miss and I'm going to

1053
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: make I'm going to I'm not going to allow you

1054
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: blokes to derive confidence from collision. And what happens then,

1055
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 1: right is nothing. Fatigue is a big guy like missing

1056
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: a little guy right, And that's what we're going to do.

1057
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: We're going to tick tactoe through the middle of the field.

1058
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: We're going to put huge pressure on your big men

1059
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: in attack. Right now, what happens, what's the next step

1060
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: from here to we beat you? Well, I'll tell you

1061
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: what we do. We do what Kronulla did, and what

1062
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: Cronulla did was when they fatigued manly. Okay, they did

1063
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: short passing even on wide movements they'd finished with a

1064
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: short pass and Nickera and those guys were just going

1065
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: straight through holes. I'm gonna we're going to play a

1066
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: fast tempo game. We're going to make you guys miss.

1067
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: We're going to complete high and then we're going to

1068
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: short pass through the middle of the field and we're

1069
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: going to see you Prosecca and Himala and josh Laa

1070
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: and those other guys have got the energy to shut

1071
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: the gaps. That's going to be a test. That's that's

1072
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: how we're going to beat you. That's what we're going

1073
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: to do.

1074
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 3: Well.

1075
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 2: I love it.

1076
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 3: I'd love it when you get a tangent Jack John's

1077
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 3: who do you think?

1078
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: Find a prediction? Man? Leave us bulldogs and who's your

1079
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Speaker 2: man of the match.

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Speaker 3: Ah, you didn't hear that, he said, Stephen Crichton and

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Speaker 3: the bulldogs.

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Speaker 2: Well, a bit of fun for your Matthew.

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Speaker 1: And we're two and two. We are we and two.

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Speaker 3: If you're watching on the YouTube, or you're listening on

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Speaker 3: the podcast or Spotify app or an iHeart put down,

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Speaker 3: put us some comments. Let us know your tips for

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Speaker 3: the round. We'd love a bit of feedback. If you

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Speaker 3: had thought me or Dad said something stupid, call us

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Speaker 3: out on it plenty, particularly Dad. Plenty of dribbling there

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Speaker 3: you can analyze. So but give us your feedback. And

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Speaker 3: if your team's playing this weekend, best of luck to you.

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Speaker 1: Good luck, guys,