Speaker 1: We got ready get you every morning, every day, every
Speaker 1: relationship Adelaides Jody and Hazy Joe's each.
Speaker 2: And every year, I make news resolutions, and I'll tell
Speaker 2: you what. I have never stuck to them ever, No,
Speaker 2: absolutely ever this year and this is a bit more
Speaker 2: of a serious space for me this year, a big
Speaker 2: news resolution is to aggressively cut back on alcohol. Okay,
Speaker 2: and we often joke around about having big nights and
Speaker 2: all those types of things. But I'm thirty nine years
Speaker 2: old now, i have a six year old, a four
Speaker 2: year old, and a one year old, and I'm at
Speaker 2: the stage of my life now where I'm starting to
Speaker 2: look back and I'm starting to think, am I what's
Speaker 2: my relationship with alcohol like? And where's it at? Because
Speaker 2: I think in theory, I would say to myself, now,
Speaker 2: I have a good relationship. I rarely overdo it, but
Speaker 2: when I really really dig deep and sort of discover
Speaker 2: what's going on, it's probably not a very good relationship.
Speaker 2: And I'm talking about to give you an example, if
Speaker 2: I look back at all of the really bad things
Speaker 2: that have happened in my life, whether it be personal relationships, work,
Speaker 2: and particularly where I've done something really really wrong, and
Speaker 2: I've had to answer for myself and try and fix things.
Speaker 2: It's one hundred percent involved alcohol.
Speaker 3: I don't think you're on your patn alone there.
Speaker 4: I think there are so many people who look back
Speaker 4: at their lives and go everything that is crappy that
Speaker 4: has happened can be attributed to doing something stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So not just that that's the big nights, but
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about for my particular lifestyle is and
Speaker 2: I'm a sucker for routine. I need a schedule, and
Speaker 2: I'm to the second with my schedule, and.
Speaker 4: I have to say, you're very disciplined during the week,
Speaker 4: like you won't drop and you won't touch a drop
Speaker 4: of alcohol during the week, could you know?
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. But Friday comes and.
Speaker 3: It's me again.
Speaker 2: We joke around about it, but that's what it's like
Speaker 2: in my head. So if I was to have one
Speaker 2: or two, maybe three beers, that's I think that's fine.
Speaker 2: But that doesn't happen. So what happens in my life
Speaker 2: right now, And for a lot of discussions with my
Speaker 2: wife about it, because it's ruining my weekends and it's
Speaker 2: ruining my only day off, and that is Saturday. And
Speaker 2: I should be absolutely intently enjoying my life with my kids.
Speaker 2: Is that five six beers?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Maybe glass of wine? Who knows, Maybe it's the bottle.
Speaker 2: So then all of a sudden on a Friday night,
Speaker 2: and what am I doing at home? I'm at home
Speaker 2: watching sport on the couch. I know what happens from that.
Speaker 2: It's not a huge, huge night, but I go to
Speaker 2: bed with bloody hell extra two thousand calories in my guts.
Speaker 2: The next morning, I wake up and I'm a pretty
Speaker 2: useless version of myself, particularly for the morning, and the
Speaker 2: kids want to do stuff, and Dad's just easing into it.
Speaker 2: He's not properly hungover, but he's not at his best.
Speaker 2: He's nowhere near his best. He's probably running about seventy percent.
Speaker 2: I am wasting these golden years of my kid's youth,
Speaker 2: six four and one, and all they want to do
Speaker 2: is stuff with Mum and dad. And right now, I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm wise enough to know that if I
Speaker 2: advance ten years look back and be like, cheez, you're
Speaker 2: going to regret that, mate, You're absolutely it's going to
Speaker 2: be your biggest regret.
Speaker 4: I just want to applaud you and anyone who takes
Speaker 4: the time to stop and go. I need to assess
Speaker 4: my relationship with alcohol, as I have done over the years.
Speaker 4: I'm a classic gray area drinker, so not so much
Speaker 4: an alcoholic, but there are times when the consumption of
Speaker 4: alcohol is abuse. And I think, for you on a
Speaker 4: Friday night, it's just that because you're so heightened or
Speaker 4: weak and you have to be on all week, it's
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 3: You want that. It's almost like oblivion.
Speaker 4: And so you don't have to think, you don't have
Speaker 4: to worry about anything, you don't have to cope with anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just about I'm not about to say I'm
Speaker 2: off it. I'm not drinking anymore, but it's about being
Speaker 2: having a relationship where I can have two beers, yeah,
Speaker 2: on a Friday night, and that's it. Don't need anymore.
Speaker 2: There's no difference. The difference from me from two beers
Speaker 2: to say seven to ten beers is the next day
Speaker 2: I'm useless, and what the hell is the point of that?
Speaker 2: So I can perl abuse at the sport that's happening
Speaker 2: on TV on a Friday night. N I certainly pleases
Speaker 2: my wife and very attractive to that. He's yelling at
Speaker 2: the TV again.
Speaker 4: But I do want you to have a chat with
Speaker 4: a friend of mine who specializes in this area. So
Speaker 4: I've taken the liberty of teeming this up for you
Speaker 4: if you're open to having a conversation with her about
Speaker 4: alcohol and it is essentially a poison and what that
Speaker 4: might be doing to your body by putting that shit
Speaker 4: volume of alcohol in your body at one given time.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, you're not stitching me up, Duffman's not about
Speaker 2: a cruise. It's all over. No, But thank you for
Speaker 2: this because this is Yeah, I'm thirty nine years old
Speaker 2: as well. It's a next it's the next stage in
Speaker 2: my life.
Speaker 4: And I just don't want you to feel you're alone
Speaker 4: in this because alcohol abuse amongst men, women women in
Speaker 4: particular is a thing, and I think there are more
Speaker 4: and more.
Speaker 3: People just who are sober curious what they like to say.
Speaker 4: So not necessarily I'm never ever going to drink again,
Speaker 4: but they will definitely take steps towards cutting back.
Speaker 3: Let's go to anonymous.
Speaker 4: Your husband was a bit of a drinker, yes, okay,
Speaker 4: talk us through your story.
Speaker 5: So he's been over for over a year now. He
Speaker 5: was a heavy drinker, and I always didn't think that
Speaker 5: it was an issue. Obviously my history always had drinking
Speaker 5: in the family. Fell out the tree and kind of
Speaker 5: realized that we just made cake. And not only has
Speaker 5: it been great for his health, but obviously relationships around
Speaker 5: him just through. So I think it's to me, I'm
Speaker 5: so proud of him and it's changed our relationship. It
Speaker 5: helped us and kids everything like that, energy levels of
Speaker 5: through the roof. So to me, it's really difficult to
Speaker 5: normalize the fact that someone chooses not to drink and
Speaker 5: finding options for him. He's been through all of the
Speaker 5: different and zero alcohols and sound something that he likes,
Speaker 5: so that when we go out somewhere that it's a
Speaker 5: beer with zero alcohol, he can still drink and yet
Speaker 5: feel normal because you've got a stubby holder in your
Speaker 5: hands with a beer, so that when you go out
Speaker 5: people kind of judge you and looking at like, you know,
Speaker 5: a zero beer, what's that about. I'd love to see
Speaker 5: that the normalized.
Speaker 4: Can I ask you what it's felt like to have
Speaker 4: your husband Back's amazing.
Speaker 5: I've got my best friend back. Sorry, I didn't realize
Speaker 5: how much it was impacts me, but yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 5: To see the best version of him.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you should be super.
Speaker 5: Sorry, not good RIGHTO.
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking anonymous because like we're pretty stubborn creatures,
Speaker 2: and I especially especially when when you say that you
Speaker 2: know you've spoken to him and he says, I'm fine,
Speaker 2: I don't have a problem. I've been have the same hope. Well,
Speaker 2: I know exactly what you're talking about, yea.
Speaker 5: And it came to a point where I had to
Speaker 5: get my kids involved because I just couldn't do it
Speaker 5: anymore because that person was not the person that I
Speaker 5: fell in love with, that's for sure, and I just
Speaker 5: couldn't do it anymore. So it's hard to get kids involved.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I'm so grateful that they did help. God
Speaker 5: I hope they're not watching. Yeah, and it's been an
Speaker 5: amazing top month.
Speaker 4: Did he go into it thinking I'm never going to
Speaker 4: drink again, or I just want to scale it right
Speaker 4: back and see what happens.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, that was the intent of I'm just not
Speaker 5: going to have some beers for a while, and then
Speaker 5: realized that he felt so much better. He will on
Speaker 5: occasion like there's been time for resulter a zero bear
Speaker 5: and someone's given him a normal one like oh, well
Speaker 5: that's the gain or yeah, but he hasn't fallen back
Speaker 5: into that circle of I'll just have another one.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And I think that's the difference of knowing that there
Speaker 5: is a zero beer that he could have that makes
Speaker 5: it easier. It's an easier transition because you're not just
Speaker 5: quitting it all together, like we're smoking for him.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm glad, and honestly didn't say that someone slipping
Speaker 2: a beer. And then all of a sudden he turned
Speaker 2: into Frank the tank or so.
Speaker 5: We're going in the quadroon.
Speaker 3: We're all shrinking, Chloe, you my love? One year sober?
Speaker 3: How good?
Speaker 7: Yeah, just just over a year now, actually about a
Speaker 7: year and a half now.
Speaker 8: I started same thing, drinks on the weekend. You know,
Speaker 8: I unfortunately drink like an absolute fish, so just.
Speaker 9: Yes, started drinking.
Speaker 7: And then it turned into you know, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
Speaker 7: and then all.
Speaker 1: Of a sudden, I was, you know, getting sort of
Speaker 1: plasted every single day of the week, and I went,
Speaker 1: I need to sort of step back and assess here,
Speaker 1: and I sort of cut down my alcohol consumption and then.
Speaker 8: I sort of noticed how sort of I guess.
Speaker 7: Annoying you can be when you've the night on the
Speaker 7: grog and you know how much it affects you from
Speaker 7: watching it from other people's perspective. You know, you sit
Speaker 7: back and you go, oh, man, you know, people do
Speaker 7: make some horrible, horrible decisions.
Speaker 9: I don't want that to be me anymore. So why
Speaker 9: am I actually even drinking at all? Yeah, I'll just
Speaker 9: cut it, and I do not miss it.
Speaker 8: I've you know, some people go on, I miss having
Speaker 8: a drink. I do not at all.
Speaker 7: You know, It's made me feel so much better. Mental
Speaker 7: clarity is at an all time high. I see the
Speaker 7: world in such a different way now. All my relationships
Speaker 7: with everybody are so much better because I don't, you know,
Speaker 7: I've not had a big night on the grog and
Speaker 7: then lash out the next day, and you know when
Speaker 7: your emotions are a bit all over the place and
Speaker 7: you're feeling.
Speaker 9: A bit hungover. So yeah, it's definitely a hard one.
Speaker 4: To kick, though, Chloe, I've never ever met a sober
Speaker 4: person who has said this has made my life worse,
Speaker 4: not one. Every single person that gets sober says it
Speaker 4: has infinitely improve their life.
Speaker 3: So well done to you.
Speaker 4: I think that's an amazing effort.
Speaker 7: Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: There go some great stories coming through as well about
Speaker 2: how much better it could be and how people can
Speaker 2: absolutely genuinely improve yourself. And I've said that, and I've
Speaker 2: heard of people as well that go down that path,
Speaker 2: and that is I want to reduce, but then you
Speaker 2: end up just completely quitting. Yeah, so I want to
Speaker 2: improve my relationship with our cohol. I haven't said that
Speaker 2: I'll completely quit and go cold turkey because I don't
Speaker 2: trust myself they have some sort of dangerous blowout as well.
Speaker 4: Also, don't want to put that pressure on yourself either,
Speaker 4: because you know people are watching, particularly in your job.
Speaker 4: So you don't want to have to set yourself up
Speaker 4: and say I'm never drinking you again.
Speaker 3: Well you may well, but.
Speaker 4: It's worth exploring to see, Okay, do I want to
Speaker 4: significantly cut back or quit all together?
Speaker 3: It's worth asking that question of yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So for example, I'm forwarded this year.
Speaker 3: God you look good, mate.
Speaker 2: Mate, you look My point is that, you know, My
Speaker 2: point is that there'll be a hangover. Yeah, I'll have
Speaker 2: a fortieth, then we'll have a couple of drinks. I
Speaker 2: don't want to do stupid things.
Speaker 4: Let me throw this into the mix for you, and
Speaker 4: it's something that you probably never have considered. Women when
Speaker 4: they go through perimenopause or menopause, alcohol impacts them so
Speaker 4: much worse.
Speaker 3: Than men like you.
Speaker 4: Throw all the imbalance of hormones in there and it
Speaker 4: becomes helps a real mindfield.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, fourteen we're talking about Well, it's stemmed from
Speaker 2: me trying to improve my relationship with our cohol. We've
Speaker 2: had some fantastic calls coming through Julie, good morning to you.
Speaker 10: Look, I just wanted to ring and say, hain't you
Speaker 10: so finally bringing this topic, you know, out into the
Speaker 10: public and speaking about it. You know, it's such an
Speaker 10: obvious sort of culture to go out and socialize but
Speaker 10: have to drink, and then people go, why aren't you
Speaker 10: drinking and having to explain all of that. So I
Speaker 10: just really wanted to ring and face thank you so
Speaker 10: much for talking about it this morning.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Julie. It's but you're right. I feel like
Speaker 2: that as well. And I can't say this enough. I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to really get rid of our coho or
Speaker 2: anything like that. I just it is an easy culture thing, though,
Speaker 2: isn't it. It's a weird which is fine, and I've
Speaker 2: always grown up with it and I played footing and
Speaker 2: we had some success and it was a lot of fun,
Speaker 2: sort of mixing with our coals. Sometimes you take it
Speaker 2: too far, but it feels like it's very much an
Speaker 2: Australian thing.
Speaker 4: And also, Julie Hazy, there's a lot of shame involved
Speaker 4: in putting your hand up sometimes and still to this
Speaker 4: day and saying I think I might have an issue here.
Speaker 3: So I think the more we normalize it, Julie, the
Speaker 3: better off will all be.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and to be able to talk about it openly
Speaker 10: and you know, and yeah, because I think there's a
Speaker 10: lot of people out there that are silently suffering about it.
Speaker 10: And so yeah, like I said, I just wanted to
Speaker 10: say thanks for talking about it.
Speaker 2: Good on, Julie. Well, thank you so much for calling.
Speaker 4: I had someone say to me once who I had
Speaker 4: a bit of a drinking issue, said I actually like
Speaker 4: myself when I don't drink, And that was so powerful. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because it can be a real spiral to go down
Speaker 4: that path.
Speaker 2: You said that before. I can't imagine something is more true. No,
Speaker 2: it is here for kiffing up alcohol and regretted it Yeah,
Speaker 2: that doesn't make sense. I won't find someone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: I have a really beautiful friend who works in this space.
Speaker 4: Her name is Isabella Ferguson. She's a registered counselor specializing
Speaker 4: in alcohol. And I just thought if you were a
Speaker 4: tiny bit worried, maybe it might be worthwhile to have
Speaker 4: a little chat. So we say good morning to you.
Speaker 12: Bella, good morning.
Speaker 3: Well, just that sound familiar what we've just described to you.
Speaker 12: Oh, it certainly does. And particularly just the age group.
Speaker 12: You know, when we're hitting our late thirties, early forties,
Speaker 12: we've got young kids, we start to feel it a
Speaker 12: bit more. So we're looking to make some changes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, Bella, it's not Yeah, I'm not saying.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I need to cut back completely. I
Speaker 2: really joy a beer, so but not. I'm just I
Speaker 2: think I'm abusing it, particularly on Friday night. I'd love
Speaker 2: to be able to sit there and have one two
Speaker 2: beers and that's it, and that's completely it, and then
Speaker 2: I go to bed feeling good, I sleep well, and
Speaker 2: I get up the next day. I'm absolute best at
Speaker 2: the moment, for no particular reason. It's seven to ten,
Speaker 2: maybe sometimes more, and for what reason, And it just
Speaker 2: ruins my weekend. And at the moment it's I certainly
Speaker 2: don't have a happy partner as well. So yeah, it's
Speaker 2: an interesting time of my life.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a familiar story. I hear it a lot.
Speaker 12: But good on you for thinking about it and thinking
Speaker 12: about you know, what changes you could make to try
Speaker 12: and you know, just feel better.
Speaker 3: And Bella, this is.
Speaker 4: A question that I often ponder. Are there two types
Speaker 4: of people in this world? Is there one type that
Speaker 4: can have one or two drinks and then their brain
Speaker 4: says no, that's it for me. And then is there
Speaker 4: another type like hazy and I can be prone to
Speaker 4: just binge drinking. Is it the way you metabolize our
Speaker 4: Oh what is it?
Speaker 12: I don't think it's the way you metabolize it. But
Speaker 12: I think it's just that they're definitely two cancer people,
Speaker 12: and you're right with the way that you've summarized who
Speaker 12: they are. You know what they are. Some people can
Speaker 12: just have one or two. But there are reasons around
Speaker 12: genetics about how early we started drinking and our emotional reasons,
Speaker 12: so why we might be drinking, and if we just
Speaker 12: keep on behaviorally exposing ourself to large amounts of alcohol.
Speaker 12: Over time, naturally, our tolerance is going to increase and
Speaker 12: it's just going to be harder to pull back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and me telling my wife Bella that the reason
Speaker 2: I'm doing it is because I'm a really fun guy.
Speaker 2: Isn't working at the age of thirty nine when we
Speaker 2: first met when we were twenty five.
Speaker 4: And so for someone like Hazy who has gone all right,
Speaker 4: this is a bit gray area for me, what would
Speaker 4: you recommend to him to start by cutting back?
Speaker 12: Gosh, but there are so many ways to do this.
Speaker 12: I think it's really useful to plan, say a six
Speaker 12: week period where you are setting yourself some goals around
Speaker 12: alcohol and then almost treating it like an experiment where
Speaker 12: you're noticing, are you breaking your moderation goal? How much'll
Speaker 12: you having? What are the circumstances around you drinking too much?
Speaker 12: Is it around certain kinds of friends, is it when
Speaker 12: you're a certain kind of day, are you stressed? Are
Speaker 12: you emotionally drinking? And just kind of try and learn
Speaker 12: what is going on for you?
Speaker 4: One more quick one for me, So why do we
Speaker 4: sleep so poorly when you have a few drinks?
Speaker 3: And it doesn't even have to be that much.
Speaker 4: It can be one or two glasses of red, and
Speaker 4: then I just think you get the two ams, don't you?
Speaker 4: You do?
Speaker 12: So alcohol does not help sleep in any way, shape
Speaker 12: or form. In fact, I've got some great stats. If
Speaker 12: you have one drink, your sleep quality actually goes down
Speaker 12: by ten percent. Two drinks that's twenty four percent, and
Speaker 12: then or more it's up to forty percent. So when
Speaker 12: we drink alcohol, this is what happens to our brains.
Speaker 12: It crosses the blood brain barrier and it stimulates the
Speaker 12: pleasure center of our brain. So we feel that relief,
Speaker 12: that dope, meine that gabba. But then what happens is
Speaker 12: our brain notices that there's an imbalance and it releases stimulants,
Speaker 12: which is adrenaline and cortisol, which stays in your body
Speaker 12: a long time. And so this is why you only
Speaker 12: feel that relief for twenty minutes when you drink. The
Speaker 12: stress hormones take the edge off, and that's why you
Speaker 12: start getting restless and reaching for your next drink. But
Speaker 12: what happens with sleep is the stress hormones stay in
Speaker 12: your body for a long time. So although we might
Speaker 12: fall into a deep sleep, that's in our body is
Speaker 12: trying to get rid of the toxins. It's not the
Speaker 12: good quality R E. M sleep, so that rem sleep
Speaker 12: that we get, that restorative sleep that we need to
Speaker 12: feel physically and emotionally. Well, it's elusive. It's really disrupted
Speaker 12: with alcohol.
Speaker 2: I know I'm not alone in this. Is this how
Speaker 2: much is it? How much of a culture thing is
Speaker 2: this in Australia? Because I feel like you speak to
Speaker 2: a lot of people and it's the way that they
Speaker 2: were brought up and things like that. What do you
Speaker 2: think us as a whole and maybe particular males, what's
Speaker 2: the relationship with alcohol in this country?
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's often very culturally connected with our identity. So
Speaker 12: and that's why it's often really hard to break brief
Speaker 12: from alcohol because it forms part of how we socialize,
Speaker 12: how we have fun and celebrate, and how we connect
Speaker 12: with our mates and particularly men. Alcohol is often very
Speaker 12: much paired with having a debrief, watching sport and connecting.
Speaker 12: So to take that element away, which is often our
Speaker 12: social safety blanket and has been paired with so many
Speaker 12: aspects of our life, can be feel really difficult. And
Speaker 12: there's a great fear of being ostracized and where tribal
Speaker 12: human beings need our mates, so it's often the biggest
Speaker 12: barrier to giving up is losing connection with our friends.
Speaker 12: But yeah, it's culturally ingrained everywhere everywhere we look really well.
Speaker 4: I can highly recommend if anyone who is struggling with
Speaker 4: alcohol they can jump on your website and get the
Speaker 4: tools that they need to help there.
Speaker 2: But thank you, seriously, there's so much to take from that,
Speaker 2: and I absolutely know that there's a bunch of people
Speaker 2: listening right now who are in the same category. So
Speaker 2: thank you because you're making a difference.
Speaker 12: Oh, thank you so much. And yes, anybody else, anybody
Speaker 12: out there who feels their drinking too much, listen to
Speaker 12: that voice. It's worth cutting back.
Speaker 4: He's been on our screen since the late eighties.
Speaker 6: In the soft draw right.
Speaker 3: There an Australian comedy icon.
Speaker 2: Welcome to my pals. Would you like me depeat it?
Speaker 13: I have our roller in the.
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Speaker 4: What if I get it wrong and you blistering your
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Speaker 13: That's exciting that introduction.
Speaker 2: Do you know what as well, just to peel the
Speaker 2: curtain back. We're lucky that you'll hear right now because
Speaker 2: about forty five seconds ago, you tried to put the
Speaker 2: headphones on.
Speaker 3: Knock, I missed it. What happened?
Speaker 7: Well, I didn't.
Speaker 13: I seem to have one that was I thought it
Speaker 13: was dark, yeah, and it was just folding up so
Speaker 13: I couldn't actually get them on my head. Yeah, and
Speaker 13: I just you know, I've been in the bees a
Speaker 13: long time, but headphones of my mother chink in my armor.
Speaker 13: I cannot I cannot do that.
Speaker 2: Everyone's got the krypton.
Speaker 4: Today, just listening back to that audio there from Kath
Speaker 4: and kim Man.
Speaker 3: Sorry, you must get hit up about it all the time.
Speaker 2: Oh it's great though, but you.
Speaker 4: Were every little husband across the street, you yeah, just
Speaker 4: putting your place, wake out, living.
Speaker 13: Real life.
Speaker 2: Life.
Speaker 3: But it just trans It's transcended. Everyone didn't it that show.
Speaker 13: It was amazing. Women loved it and gay people loved
Speaker 13: it first, so it got a really kind of groovy
Speaker 13: kind of notch in the market, and then then by
Speaker 13: second series sort of caught on and it was just
Speaker 13: the way women love it, So mothers show their daughters.
Speaker 13: So when people come to my show, it's a real
Speaker 13: mixture of people who get old folks like me, and
Speaker 13: you get lots of young lots of young girls, you know,
Speaker 13: eighteen to twenty five who want to come and have
Speaker 13: a look of bread.
Speaker 2: So he's still alive.
Speaker 3: It's still alive.
Speaker 13: I'll look at it.
Speaker 2: It's so different.
Speaker 4: I've seen a couple of outtakes from that show and
Speaker 4: just you guys just paying yourselves laughing. Was it like
Speaker 4: that all the time, Like was it difficult to get
Speaker 4: through scenes?
Speaker 13: Some days the girls were batter They would laugh, they
Speaker 13: would laugh NonStop for forty five minutes at themselves. Yeah,
Speaker 13: like self indulgent, and the crew are going, come on,
Speaker 13: this is not not that funny. We'll give you five minutes,
Speaker 13: not forty five, so I think, But of it's you know,
Speaker 13: when you get super tired, you get fatigued, and you
Speaker 13: get delirious and laughing fits. They're probably the most enjoyable
Speaker 13: laughing because you're gonna have because they're almost like you're
Speaker 13: getting like a weird you know, natural drug as and
Speaker 13: so we've got.
Speaker 2: To add a few.
Speaker 3: You're almost unhinged, absolutely, but so.
Speaker 2: Much fun, so much We don't want to encourage people
Speaker 2: to house for you. But do you do you enjoy
Speaker 2: it for people? I always wondered about this for celebrities,
Speaker 2: and particularly when there's something which is really iconic and
Speaker 2: it's it's so iconic when people hit you up on
Speaker 2: the street.
Speaker 14: Do you enjoy it or do you sort of what's
Speaker 14: what's the go to point? How do you get Peter
Speaker 14: Rose its peak? At its peak, I would get yelled at, hey, dad,
Speaker 14: route from the bus or you know car who told you?
Speaker 5: Sorry?
Speaker 2: Kids mean that?
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 13: But generally it comes with great love and warmth. It's
Speaker 13: just and I just I just embrace it because you know,
Speaker 13: it's really nice. Just people can come up to you
Speaker 13: every day in the street and go, I love you,
Speaker 13: or my mom loves you, or my grand loves you.
Speaker 13: It's really beautiful. So I just will never back off it.
Speaker 13: I just love it, don't I don't necessarily seek it,
Speaker 13: but I just generally embrace it when it comes.
Speaker 4: It's love with him to happen and the show is
Speaker 4: keen at fringe. What's your first love? I mean, you're
Speaker 4: a comic first and foremost.
Speaker 3: Under the stand up.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I never really wanted to be a comic. I
Speaker 13: never thought I just I had a friend of mine
Speaker 13: in Melbourne I went to school with and he used
Speaker 13: to impersonate trams and busses like the noises they made.
Speaker 13: He's a bit of a square, and he decided to
Speaker 13: take that weird skilly had in his bedroom into a
Speaker 13: comedy club in Melbourne. This is in the early eighties,
Speaker 13: and he get up there and he go, oh, this
Speaker 13: is the number seventy two tram crossing Gambwell junction and
Speaker 13: he just got makes tram noose.
Speaker 2: People go wow, it's exactly the same.
Speaker 3: That's incredible.
Speaker 2: I thought, well, he can do it.
Speaker 13: I can do that. So I got together another guy
Speaker 13: he started bus and we worked together for a couple
Speaker 13: of years in the comedy clubs and then I split
Speaker 13: and we worked by myself and sort of went from
Speaker 13: there and then that all my crew.
Speaker 2: So my ear like eighties crew.
Speaker 13: This is I'm talking about Glenn Robins, the Kath and
Speaker 13: Kim Girls, Rob Stitch, all the Degeneration people were all
Speaker 13: working live at the time, and that all tipped into
Speaker 13: radio and TV in the late eighties. So he became
Speaker 13: the god, the god people, the god parents of all comedy.
Speaker 3: And you were a drama teacher. That's classic. That's og,
Speaker 3: mister g.
Speaker 13: I never I never got to teach. I left in
Speaker 13: nine and eighty seven. I thought I was going to
Speaker 13: get famous. I thought this is going to be a disaster.
Speaker 13: So I went back and finished my course. Up I
Speaker 13: deferred after three years, so I went back and finished it.
Speaker 2: But I never taught.
Speaker 13: I went from teachers College straight into the Comedy Company,
Speaker 13: which was a big TV shape Rosader.
Speaker 2: We were saying, this is your first return to the circuit.
Speaker 2: So eighty seven was the last time.
Speaker 13: I was doing a show called the Blood Run Free,
Speaker 13: which was an old live show which became a TV
Speaker 13: show in the only nineties, and we were doing the
Speaker 13: tour of the festivals. Then we're on with an act
Speaker 13: called Dug Anthony All Stars a Long Time Ago and them,
Speaker 13: and we were like the picks of the festival at
Speaker 13: that time. So I haven't done a proper stand up
Speaker 13: show in any festival ever since his until now.
Speaker 2: So it's so much fun.
Speaker 7: I just love it.
Speaker 13: I had did a week in Perth before I came,
Speaker 13: and I'm just digging it. So much because it's a
Speaker 13: room full of people who've come to see me and
Speaker 13: they are so invested and it's so much fun. Lots
Speaker 13: of chat, but lots of I've got lots of materials
Speaker 13: through the years, so I've got plenty of to call
Speaker 13: in when i need it.
Speaker 2: Obviously one of the OG's and one of the absolute greats,
Speaker 2: but be given in this particular space, it's been so
Speaker 2: long in between drinks, nerves, how did you go?
Speaker 13: No, I've done a bucket load of corporate work in
Speaker 13: the middle and so now harder than anything you can do.
Speaker 13: And so I'm pretty I'm pretty match fit. So I'm
Speaker 13: not scared of it a thing. Nothing intimidates me, and
Speaker 13: I just that's sort of at the top of my game.
Speaker 13: I'm sixty two, so I'm not a spring chicken, and
Speaker 13: I've learned a few things along the way.
Speaker 2: And I'd loved Adelaide.
Speaker 13: I was an Adelaide doing at Chicago last year, and
Speaker 13: I just had a ball when I was here, And yeah,
Speaker 13: I'm really looking forward to just being in the park
Speaker 13: of the thing.
Speaker 3: He Rose Sawn joined us in the studio.
Speaker 4: You were just saying, I fear that your daughter's into
Speaker 4: radio now like your kids never liked watching you on
Speaker 4: the telecopre on absolutely everything growing Yew.
Speaker 13: I was dominating for a while two thousands, I was
Speaker 13: on Like Dog and Gong. I had had a really
Speaker 13: good first late ays and I came back in two thousand,
Speaker 13: so I was on Kathy Gim which had sort of
Speaker 13: ran every second year, and I was doing I did
Speaker 13: a lot of sorry, thank God You're here. Yeah, for
Speaker 13: the first four seasons it was on. I started sort
Speaker 13: of pretty good at it. So I did probably fourps
Speaker 13: in the first series and four in the second. And
Speaker 13: I had a show called Can We Help?
Speaker 2: I had I was up.
Speaker 13: There was two of us up for these jobs. So
Speaker 13: there was me and Adam Hills, and so it's Adam
Speaker 13: Hills who was going to get Spicks and Specks, And
Speaker 13: he got Spicks and Specks and I got can We Help?
Speaker 13: On the OVC, which was sixt thirty, which no one
Speaker 13: ever watched, but I learned, at least I learned how
Speaker 13: to present TV a little bit. But anyway, so I
Speaker 13: was on that and they really hated that. But nobody
Speaker 13: couldn't give a ratsas about any of them. Come on, kids,
Speaker 13: please come on, gather around me, gather around.
Speaker 2: Around me, please please.
Speaker 13: Anybody, it's boring.
Speaker 2: Peter rose Thorne joins us in studio, but just in
Speaker 2: terms of just how iconic the show was kathin Kim,
Speaker 2: of course, do you think right now do you think
Speaker 2: where TV's at there could be another Australian show that
Speaker 2: comes through like that or as it sort of shifted away?
Speaker 2: Because I feel like Kathy and Kim and a few
Speaker 2: of these shows really sort of I mean, we grew
Speaker 2: up with them. Yeah, they helped mold us and I
Speaker 2: don't know if if there's a space for shows like
Speaker 2: that to come through again in this market. Do you
Speaker 2: think there is? I think there is.
Speaker 13: They sit on the ABC a lot. People don't really
Speaker 13: tune into the ABC, so it's a bit of a bummer.
Speaker 13: But it's because of the because of the platforms, you
Speaker 13: can go anywhere anytime and go and watch anything from
Speaker 13: all over the world that anytime you want to watch it,
Speaker 13: so that the whole medium shifted, so you just don't
Speaker 13: get those things where the whole family's going to get into.
Speaker 13: I suppose something like Australian Item might be as close
Speaker 13: as you get down those big ten pole programs or
Speaker 13: you know the jungle thing. You know, people go whatever,
Speaker 13: we can all kind of watch this together. Then everyone
Speaker 13: disperses again. Yes so, but I think most of the
Speaker 13: time people spent their time to disperse through the house,
Speaker 13: watching their own devices.
Speaker 4: Do you reckon the closest I reckon, we've come to
Speaker 4: another Cathin Kim was upper middle Bogan, Yeah, pretty close.
Speaker 13: Once again Robinson evolved another beauty. Yeah, absolutely, ripper. Yeah,
Speaker 13: but you know, if they take, they take. It's a
Speaker 13: bit of a guessing game.
Speaker 2: I reckon.
Speaker 13: It's really hard. It's like something trending on, you know,
Speaker 13: on the internet. They just come from no one.
Speaker 3: They is TikTok.
Speaker 4: The words you were after there was it's TikTok.
Speaker 13: I'd say platforms. I just got the head over the platforms,
Speaker 13: which is from the other two thousand.
Speaker 3: Pete Rosewan, thank you so much for joining us in
Speaker 3: the studio. Pleasure.
Speaker 13: Thank you for having this a lot on. There's a
Speaker 13: lot of people in town, so I'm very gratefully you.
Speaker 2: Said yes to me.
Speaker 3: The show is called Keene.
Speaker 4: It's on its spiegel zelt out the Garden. Get along
Speaker 4: and see one of the absolute icons of Australian TV
Speaker 4: Pete Roswan, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: I love your It was a big old night at
Speaker 2: the Entertainment Center last night. Kylie was back at her
Speaker 2: best too. By the way, I don't think it's aging.
Speaker 10: No, she's not.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, she's Benjamin Button. She's going. I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean, we're not. Let's be honest, We're not under
Speaker 3: any illusions that.
Speaker 4: Kylie probably has some of the best skin care products
Speaker 4: going around to preserve her gorgeous looks.
Speaker 2: Nivia moisturizing cream, stuff like that, isn't it. That's what
Speaker 2: I use a grapefry. We're all purpose moisturizer to. By
Speaker 2: the way, put it everywhere. That's what face legs everywhere.
Speaker 4: That's what everybody six year old Kylie is using to
Speaker 4: preserve her good looks.
Speaker 3: Nibia all day, creat back and.
Speaker 4: Then had an absolute blinder at the Entertainment Center last night.
Speaker 4: She played for Better the Devil, you know, spinning around, can't.
Speaker 3: Get you out of my head.
Speaker 2: It was all there the class.
Speaker 4: That's really cool light show. I saw a couple of
Speaker 4: clips on Instagram as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the big test as well. When someone
Speaker 2: sort of records it on their phone or something. If
Speaker 2: you still sound good there, yea, then it means she
Speaker 2: sounds absolutely epic in the flesh.
Speaker 4: That's so.
Speaker 2: Even from that, I reckon, you can tell that life
Speaker 2: she would have sounded absolutely excellent, perfect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, forty year career, it's ridiculous. Do you remember
Speaker 3: Carli and Neighbors?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 2: I don't. But what I can say is I've seen visions.
Speaker 3: She looks very different now, yes, yes, of course she does.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not talking about I feel like even a
Speaker 2: few years ago, maybe ten twenty years ago, I look
Speaker 2: very very different. Did you know he's a fun fact
Speaker 2: for to produce a flag? And you told me this,
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 4: What about you throwing back a fact that he's given
Speaker 4: you back in his face?
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 13: Go on there, Well, it's probably gonna work because I've
Speaker 13: forgotten what I've told you.
Speaker 2: No, No, it's okay. I'm going to hold it actually
Speaker 2: because I reckon, Yeah, the fact that what you told
Speaker 2: me it's the first question for the six fifteen venue
Speaker 2: machine and Quizzy this morning.
Speaker 13: This morning we were chatting in the office. I said
Speaker 13: to you, has this for the first question of vending machine?
Speaker 2: I didn't say it's a fun fact, right, okay, so, Jose,
Speaker 2: he's what you're going to do? You drop this particular
Speaker 2: question next. Okay, okay, I'll played the six fifteen vend
Speaker 2: machine quiz. It is kighly related.
Speaker 3: Do you want me to sell the factors my own?
Speaker 2: Yes? Please? Okay, here's one I've come up with a
Speaker 2: little bit earlier morning.
Speaker 12: The following segment is the mature audiences only and may
Speaker 12: contain how all content, graphic language and nudity, not that
Speaker 12: you'll see it if easily offended.
Speaker 3: Well, you're about to find out.
Speaker 13: Just how easily your father.
Speaker 4: He's only money Jody and hazes six nothing. So every
Speaker 4: now and then we flag an idea in our meeting
Speaker 4: about something we'd like to talk about at Naughty at
Speaker 4: six forty and the top line was the most googled
Speaker 4: word relating to sex in America.
Speaker 3: And I deliberately haven't read the article because I want
Speaker 3: you to break it to me.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. Google could be such a useful tool.
Speaker 2: I think the best thing about Google when it comes
Speaker 2: to education and for youngsters or maybe people who are
Speaker 2: mature aged, is that you do it privately. Yes, there's
Speaker 2: no embarrassment.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: The problem with Google though, is that You're like, what's
Speaker 2: this little marquee? And Google's like, oh you're in trouble.
Speaker 2: Oh you'll be dead soon. You should never google anything
Speaker 2: health related because it will tell you the worst possible outcomes.
Speaker 3: He's got to do with sex?
Speaker 2: Well, you'd be surprised, dude.
Speaker 13: I'm just twelve.
Speaker 2: I talking openly about Google. Okay. The most googled sex
Speaker 2: questions in America? Yes, I got three for you. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: here's one, how to last longer during sex. I hear
Speaker 2: that brothers and sisters. I hear that pretty reasonable question.
Speaker 2: And that's one of those questions where you should definitely
Speaker 2: do it privately.
Speaker 4: I don't know what anyways, I don't want to answer
Speaker 4: on behalf of Google. But isn't it kind of out
Speaker 4: of your control? It's a physiological reaction, isn't it If
Speaker 4: you get to excited? What could you do?
Speaker 2: I've been told that there are methods that you can
Speaker 2: employ to make such events go a little bit longer. Okay,
Speaker 2: produce a flat can confirm what are they? Here's another one,
Speaker 2: very broad?
Speaker 13: What is sexy?
Speaker 2: Guys have heard about this crazy and you think called sex?
Speaker 2: Anyone doing it or having it, Yeah, who knows. I
Speaker 2: feel like Google's got some stuff.
Speaker 3: I feel like it keeps the human race sustainable and alive.
Speaker 13: What is this sex thing that.
Speaker 3: You speak of?
Speaker 2: And the most googled question in America when it comes
Speaker 2: to sex is very very broad, and that is how
Speaker 2: to have sex? The mechanics can be tricky, am I right?
Speaker 13: Mechanics of it all?
Speaker 2: Like you know this, that, where, etcetera.
Speaker 4: I'm going to regret asking this question as I quite
Speaker 4: up and do at six forty each and every morning.
Speaker 3: How did you about sex on the farm? Did you
Speaker 3: just go out in the back?
Speaker 5: What do you hang on?
Speaker 7: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? And also, this is someone,
Speaker 2: this is this is someone throwing outrageous questions like that
Speaker 2: who grew up in Tasmania? At least one was with
Speaker 2: an animal? Not my uncle?
Speaker 1: Coming up with name?
Speaker 2: Can confirm both of those stories completely? Pop completely posps?
Speaker 2: Can we confirm?
Speaker 3: Yes, we can confirm.
Speaker 2: All right, it's very good stuff. Twins down as well.
Speaker 2: My top questions on Google? Does car closed her eyes
Speaker 2: during sex? And whitest car always have a headache? Anyway?
Speaker 2: Novas tell your bills just around the corner? Do you
Speaker 2: have a bill that needs to be paid, reasured by
Speaker 2: the novaplay and hopefully we'll pay it.
Speaker 4: In a matter of mine is white as every time
Speaker 4: I bend over the dishwasher my husband.
Speaker 3: Tries to have sex with me.
Speaker 2: Why, in this culture and that is Australia, do we
Speaker 2: feel the need and do we get entertained by really
Speaker 2: really stitching up our friends and colleagues to the point
Speaker 2: where they look like absolute idiots. Why does that make
Speaker 2: us feel so good? Why does it really tickle me
Speaker 2: in a really nice spot?
Speaker 4: Well, because we like to connect with each other and
Speaker 4: that's our Australian way of connection. I'm going to aggressively
Speaker 4: take a piece out of you and make you look
Speaker 4: stupid and then you'll like me.
Speaker 2: It's Daria. So we've got a new producer, producer Molly.
Speaker 2: He's doing a fantastic job. It's a big day for
Speaker 2: Nova Adelaide today because the two bosses in town, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the two Pizza two Pizza, Peter Charlton and Petter Colossoma.
Speaker 2: They've got a road show thing where they go around
Speaker 2: to different markets and just present and.
Speaker 4: They say, this is how Nova's going to dominate the
Speaker 4: market in twenty twenty five, and then we go have
Speaker 4: you heard our.
Speaker 2: Show that's a close door conversation. Yes, so this will
Speaker 2: be and no doubt Molly gets a chance to meet
Speaker 2: the pizza and big moment, first impressions, all those types
Speaker 2: of things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Molly's need to the company.
Speaker 2: So we almost had you, Molly, We almost had you
Speaker 2: through a bit of a checklist of what you need
Speaker 2: to do when you meet the Petz for the first time,
Speaker 2: and that is, if you see them in a group
Speaker 2: of two, they are to be referred to as the Pistols.
Speaker 2: And also when you meet them individually, because every Petez
Speaker 2: nickname is pistol. Then after your first interaction you need.
Speaker 11: To go.
Speaker 2: To which Molly thought that was very unusual, but let's
Speaker 2: just go with it because that's what the Pistols want.
Speaker 4: And then coming up on Monday, we'll have a new
Speaker 4: segment called how Molly Got fired.
Speaker 2: A record set a record with the shortest stint as
Speaker 2: a producer. Oh I'm mad here, guys. But then we
Speaker 2: started talking about it as well, and Molly, to your
Speaker 2: beautiful boyfriend, you really stitched them up the worst way possible.
Speaker 11: Well, I first thing to say, it was an expot friend,
Speaker 11: ex boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Sorry, this is going well.
Speaker 3: It was your ex boyfriend who didn't speak well. English
Speaker 3: was his second language.
Speaker 11: But yeah, not a lot of English, which is fine,
Speaker 11: but obviously very easy to stitch him up. He was
Speaker 11: German Brazilian and if you know many Germans, they're very
Speaker 11: to the point, they're very structured, very serious. So I
Speaker 11: told him before he met my parents that it was
Speaker 11: customary to kiss my dad on the lips when you
Speaker 11: meet him.
Speaker 2: So this is where it's in Australia. We go, that's hilarious,
Speaker 2: I'm sure in other cultures, like why would you put
Speaker 2: your partner under such stress?
Speaker 3: And he was like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 11: So when I first meet him, this is a really
Speaker 11: bad accent, but on.
Speaker 3: The lips I kiss him on Yeah.
Speaker 11: I'm like, you've got to be confident, you've got to
Speaker 11: go straight in. If he senses hesitation, yeah, like it's not.
Speaker 3: Going to be a good impression.
Speaker 11: Keeping in mind my dad hates any sort of touching,
Speaker 11: not an affectionate man.
Speaker 3: So it's just and so did he go from He
Speaker 3: went to.
Speaker 11: Do it, and I was like, well, I better stop
Speaker 11: this before Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Because you know, you know that awkward moment Dad and
Speaker 2: start kissing.
Speaker 4: Well, this is like a really weird, weird synergy in
Speaker 4: this situation because both the petes love being kissed.
Speaker 6: All back to school, back to a school to approve
Speaker 6: to dad, Dad, I'm not a kids back And it's
Speaker 6: great because education is very very important and Mum and
Speaker 6: Dad get a bit more me time.
Speaker 2: Like that's just a side positive thing, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 4: But kids have been trying to get out of going
Speaker 4: to school since the dawn of time. Like we'll take
Speaker 4: a little trip down memory lane in just a moment
Speaker 4: about how you may bee perhaps tried to get out
Speaker 4: of going to Beckham Primary School, although you couldn't have
Speaker 4: because you were the only person in.
Speaker 3: Your ear noticed.
Speaker 2: They certainly noticed. Have to call off school year missing
Speaker 2: two years almost, I'm a believable sayings the school captain
Speaker 2: two years and I wasn't there. Who was going to
Speaker 2: lead the rest of the seven or eight kids across
Speaker 2: the school any who?
Speaker 4: So my kids this week have gotten very much wind
Speaker 4: of the fact that dad's away. Dad is on a
Speaker 4: conference in Sydney. I put that in inverted commerce. Inverted commerce,
Speaker 4: because God knows what he's up to any who.
Speaker 2: Well, it's probably a bit more to digest from that
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 4: Any who, he alleges it's for work. So the girls
Speaker 4: have gone all right, we smell an opportunity. Mum is
Speaker 4: quite soft in this space.
Speaker 2: He's very vulnerable. Yeah, so what they've hited is a pushover.
Speaker 4: What they've hit me up with last night when they
Speaker 4: got home was mup, I think tomorrow would be a
Speaker 4: good day for Summer and.
Speaker 3: I to have the day off.
Speaker 2: Okay, are they sick and.
Speaker 3: Just a rest day?
Speaker 4: Really just a let's regroup, because after all, we're seventeen
Speaker 4: days into the.
Speaker 2: School years and recharge.
Speaker 3: It's a lot.
Speaker 4: One of them is trying out for the gymnastics team.
Speaker 4: This is Peyton, so this was her theory on having
Speaker 4: today off school. So this I dropped them off at
Speaker 4: Grandma's last night, obviously, because I'm not there in the morning,
Speaker 4: so Grandma's in charge of them. Mum, please reconsider us
Speaker 4: staying home tomorrow because my legs are so sore and
Speaker 4: I really want them to rest for the day before
Speaker 4: tryouts and athletics carnival. And I won't annoy you because
Speaker 4: we'll just be home relaxing and we'll just be at home.
Speaker 2: Double down, and we'll just be at home. It's a
Speaker 2: very important point.
Speaker 3: I did mention to her.
Speaker 4: Tomorrow is a big day for mummy work because all
Speaker 4: the big bosses are in town, so I don't have
Speaker 4: the headspace to have you two just sitting around the house.
Speaker 2: But what about the schoolwork.
Speaker 4: Oh, they'll be doing that right, No, no, no, don't
Speaker 4: get this whole situation wrong. Of course they'll be doing
Speaker 4: schoolwork all day. They won't be watching YouTube.
Speaker 2: So there you go. So what you are saying is
Speaker 2: that they are absolute trailblazers and they are pioneers, because congratulations, girls,
Speaker 2: you've just invented school from home. School from home. It's
Speaker 2: a different generation, isn't it. I mean you've got work
Speaker 2: from home and now you've got school from home.
Speaker 3: S FH.
Speaker 2: Do you think this could work?
Speaker 4: I don't know if it'll take off with the principal.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure that they'll be able to sell it anyway.
Speaker 4: Neglass to say they've gone to school.
Speaker 2: The girls are going absolutely nowhere. Yeah, that's nice. It's
Speaker 2: a nice little idea. It's sort of it's in the
Speaker 2: same bracket as my four year old daughter's idea of
Speaker 2: pre and post dessert with every meal. Yeah, so that's
Speaker 2: six desserts, six every day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just out of curiosity. What's she having for dessert?
Speaker 2: It's ice cream, ice cream, was some sort of chocolate sweet.
Speaker 3: We're talking for breakfast.
Speaker 2: Breakfast, absolutely, that's what I'm talking about. So she wakes
Speaker 2: up at five in the morning. The first thing. She's
Speaker 2: an absolute little sugar junkie. And that is one. Is
Speaker 2: there some way that I can sort of have I
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe of ice cream just to get me
Speaker 2: into my porridge?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 2: But then also, and I blame advertising, apparently a stable
Speaker 2: meal and a great way to finish the evening is
Speaker 2: a heap of nutella on toast.
Speaker 3: It's chocolate spread, it's hazel nuts.
Speaker 2: My gosh, I'd still rather the girls are schooling from home,
Speaker 2: to be honest.
Speaker 5: Yeah,