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Speaker 1: You can tell I'm just not myself at the moment,

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Speaker 1: a little bit down, but I tell it'll cheer me up.

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Speaker 1: Hitting the follow but on our podcast with the Family

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Speaker 1: podcast and backstage so you don't miss any of the

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Speaker 1: good stuff we've got coming up. And thank you guys,

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Speaker 1: Thank you again for listening to the podcast and giving

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Speaker 2: What was it a slip at the other day or something.

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Speaker 2: You're saying that you come back from a weekend away

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Speaker 1: She went. She goes were go for a week. She

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Speaker 1: going to the city. We'll have it a romanic. Okay,

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Speaker 1: yeah great. Anyway, anyway, I ducked off and she did

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we just do mate. They played poking and now

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Speaker 3: they're fighting about something that like just has started just

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Speaker 2: I love how you're like at the point now your

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Speaker 3: Like, oh yeah, I look real when like when your

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Speaker 4: Oh no, it's gonna end. It's going to end.

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Speaker 3: And now I just go like, just get over. Dad's

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Speaker 3: And then she'll be like what about him? I'll be like,

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Speaker 3: you're both just as bad as each other. I couldn't

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Speaker 3: Seriously, not the good kind, uh. Connor Watson, Welcome to

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Speaker 4: We got you on a bye week?

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Speaker 3: I would say, Matthew, I would say somewhat a part

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Speaker 2: Ye.

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Speaker 3: Dad probably looks at you as somewhat have done. Yeah, someone,

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Speaker 3: what do you get up to on a bye week?

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Speaker 2: Not much we got because we've got the whole week off.

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Speaker 2: But I was just thinking as I drove up here.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember when you took us for that half

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Speaker 2: session down the parking Do you remember? Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it didn't really help that much.

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Speaker 4: I really do that one. You've played about every position.

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Speaker 1: Coaches when there was a new counsel. Boys come down.

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Speaker 1: They're so enthusiastic the coaching stuff. Yeah, wow, great, you go, mate.

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Speaker 1: You know this is when you shift a ball, dow'n

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Speaker 1: ding ding. Oh yeah, this is a revolutionary. This is great.

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Speaker 1: I didn't use it at all. Waste my time.

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Speaker 3: I feel free to get that mic into your no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: we're going to talk about your podcast as back in

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Speaker 3: the day. But you haven't done a podcast in a

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Speaker 3: long time, mate, it's.

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Speaker 2: Been a little bit. It's been a while. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: The last one I did would have been that was

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Speaker 2: It didn't help when I had first went to Newcastle

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Speaker 4: Who's driving around now Braddy.

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Speaker 3: I saw Braddy up in Newcastle the other day driving past,

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Speaker 2: And I knew you guys like knew where I lived,

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Speaker 1: I had a car sponsorship at the Nights in two.

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Speaker 1: Connor turned up at the car yard. I won't going

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Speaker 3: His style every time, every time in and out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh that's shit.

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Speaker 3: What was Why didn't you? Why would you even keep it?

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Speaker 2: It was it had been a little while. That's why

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Speaker 2: The other week I come down sort of. It was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys had just beaten was it Saint George Day,

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Speaker 1: I've freaked out.

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Speaker 4: We had a good laugh for a couple of hours.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a great couple of hours. And I

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Speaker 3: Yeahah, yeah, we told told it on the family partty

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Speaker 2: Was that funny. We're just we're sitting outside it started

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So then we've tried to like trying to move

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, so she wakes up and Cooper's there like

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Speaker 4: And all the boys remember.

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Speaker 3: After this, her uber rocks up and me and Connor

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Speaker 4: To push her in and she's going, do you see

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: I could have you know what, Connor, I should have

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Speaker 3: He finished, yeah, we were at Brandon's and I said

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because Mum was texting.

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Speaker 3: Byron Bay trip back in twenty twenty after the Melbourne's

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Speaker 3: Melbourne's Mad Monday. You and Sammy Verrels had we've planned

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Speaker 2: I remember rocking up because it was when I had

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Speaker 2: you know they got the surfing headquarters up there.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, the surfer golf.

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Speaker 2: So I went up there and just trained in there

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is pretty cool because because the Brummage boys

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Speaker 4: I just they can they can handle their own.

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Speaker 3: Oh they're good drinkers, yeah, yeah, don't get don't get enough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah very just take the top off the bottle and

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Speaker 3: It's four x gold and four x only mid is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a byron for one.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, because I don't want to let this story go

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Speaker 3: and miss uh, I think it was the last night.

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Speaker 3: And you've you've befriended some hippies and we kind of

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Speaker 3: taken us all to this what do we call it,

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Speaker 3: were hula hoops, there were hacky sacks, there were bean backs,

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Speaker 3: there was an acoustic guitar tantric sex and Connor was

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Speaker 3: We were dressed like in our ones, in our best kit.

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Speaker 3: Everyone else was dressed in like skirts and eggs. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: like horrible stuff. And you're befriended a bloke. I think

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Speaker 3: the bloke's name was Tim.

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Speaker 2: Actually, you've got a great memory because it.

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Speaker 4: What I'm glad that you brought that up.

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Speaker 1: Did the commune stink? Because I think about hippies is

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Speaker 3: But they were like tents, like there were people were

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Speaker 2: Remember because there was no grow so yeah, the bar

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Speaker 2: And then I got talking to this Tim dude. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: He had some hidden some hidden bottles. And the way

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Speaker 3: that now it's it's an excellent way to be fraying

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Speaker 3: a hippie. What kind of did was he goes, He's like,

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Speaker 3: what's your name, Tim? I'm condor And he goes, Tim,

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Speaker 3: can I tell you something? Can be honest with you

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Speaker 4: He was like an old.

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Speaker 3: It would have been like forty plus spr forty plus,

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Speaker 3: It kind of was like just louveed him up, loved

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Speaker 3: oh bloody earth, here, bring out this like it was

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Speaker 3: it was a shanty of a bottle as well, like

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Speaker 1: That's funny, hippies, acoustic guitars, hula hoops, tent. Sure you

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Speaker 4: We weren't in hell, but it was good fun.

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Speaker 3: That was our last night and we all had to

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Speaker 1: Connor socially like towns like which you had known. When

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Speaker 1: They come like family. What about you when you have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it still is, Mattie. I think there's probably something

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Speaker 2: you know, like if there's anything on, boys are really

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Speaker 2: and you know, they probably don't enjoy going out for

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Speaker 2: and it's also finding how do you connect with these

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Speaker 3: It's a good point, but yeah, I remember like that

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Speaker 1: The connector no alcohol speaking of hell again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but like you said, like you're probably right,

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Speaker 3: it is more like beach and coffee. Yeah, it looks like,

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Speaker 1: It's funny, Connor, I wonder whether this year in particular,

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Speaker 1: I thought the previous couple of years, you just you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do agree, Mattie. I think you know,

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Speaker 2: just like we're a really tight knit group. I think

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Speaker 2: Like we've got great attacking players. We've always had these

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Speaker 2: big superstars, you know, like Joey both the Joey's. You

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Speaker 2: it probably didn't show in the trial game and then

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Speaker 2: footy for our defense. Gotcha, yes, because last year was

434
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,000
Speaker 2: like we can score points from anything, so let's push everything.

435
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,959
Speaker 2: But then you win by forty. But you also let

436
00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,280
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four points, which we did a lot.

437
00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 2: Where I feel like our defense is in a way

438
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,360
Speaker 2: better place this year, and it's and defense is what

439
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:47,959
Speaker 2: wins premiership.

440
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,480
Speaker 1: And our tear it and the irony is you're attacking better.

441
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 1: It's very interesting you say that because you know, you

442
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 1: know to let people know what you'd say in there.

443
00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:01,919
Speaker 1: The equation is you can only make how good your

444
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,879
Speaker 1: defense is dictates how many errors you can make in attack.

445
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 1: If your defense is poor, then you've basically got to

446
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,920
Speaker 1: be you've got to be complete and around ninety to

447
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,120
Speaker 1: ninety five percent. But if your defense is really strong

448
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 1: and allows you to take more risks. And it's funny

449
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,639
Speaker 1: watching you in those previous years, that makes sense because

450
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 1: you're channeling so much energy into your attack and in

451
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,399
Speaker 1: a lot of ways the attack suffered because of it.

452
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 1: This year it looks like, right, we're made doing on defense,

453
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 1: We're made doing on the things that really matter, kick, chase,

454
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 1: all that stuff. And as a consequence, like your attacks

455
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 1: really picked up because it's less structured.

456
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah make sense. Yeah, well I think you saw that.

457
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,679
Speaker 2: And on the weekend against the Cowboys, like a lot

458
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 2: of the trials we scored was like offload to three

459
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 2: short passes and then you know Marky goes and does

460
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 2: like he's freaky fair. Oh yeah, Billy scores that try

461
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 2: out on the left. But also though like we're under

462
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 2: no illusions of like there's still so much more work

463
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 2: to be done, more growth as a side, and you know,

464
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 2: like the last couple of weeks have been really good,

465
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 2: but we need to find that consistency. And although our

466
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 2: football is more complimentary at the moment, our YARDI jerrors

467
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 2: are still killing us a bit. Like you've seen it

468
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 2: in games where you know, the first forty minutes we've

469
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 2: turned over a lot of ball and we've defended awesome,

470
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 2: Like we've defended our goal line really well, and you're

471
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,439
Speaker 2: going at halftime and you're like, come on, boys, we

472
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 2: need to hold the ball. But like great defense, everyone's

473
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 2: moving so well on the goal line, like you know,

474
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 2: they don't look like scoring, but eventually you turn over

475
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 2: that much football and you give that much possession. Like

476
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 2: we've been run down I don't know how many times,

477
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 2: but after the sixtieth minute, in that sixtieth to seventieth minute,

478
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 2: until the last couple of weeks, we've been really poor

479
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 2: where you know, we've had leads going into that and

480
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 2: you know that's when we want to close out games,

481
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 2: but we haven't been able to. And I don't know

482
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 2: if it's because like we're running out of steam or

483
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 2: we're just giving them too much ball. But for us,

484
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 2: the biggest thing is you don't want to be conservative

485
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: in your football and you don't want to go away

486
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 2: from you know, what makes us great, but we also

487
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 2: and you don't want to be like boys we need

488
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 2: to hold the bok because then everyone's tight. Yeah yeah,

489
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 2: but you need to find the balance of okay, like

490
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 2: let's be happy to just get out of our own

491
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: and get a good kick away instead of oh, like

492
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 2: there's a half opportunity to score. Yeah, because we can

493
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: get like I don't know, Rugula League, like it's in

494
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 2: such a place now where you know, it's just so

495
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 2: reliant on live boar and like breaking teams down later

496
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 2: in the game. Yeah, yeah, in that sixtieth to eightieth minute.

497
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,120
Speaker 2: But you can't do that if you don't.

498
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 3: Well, it's hard when you have when you have like

499
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 3: the attacking, like the young gun attacking threats to yours

500
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 3: that you've got like Mark no one, I need to say,

501
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 3: Robert Toyer, who's been grouse.

502
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 4: Like he's really seen in a hugo.

503
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 3: And the halves, like the best thing about them is

504
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 3: they probably don't think long like the long game. They

505
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 3: think like now, and that's why they come up with

506
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: such mad players like you've seen Markey Marx. Markey, Mark

507
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 3: has been phenomenal. Like that, try you set up.

508
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 4: Earlier in the like no one else is doing that.

509
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 3: Most wingers are probably just trying to either get down

510
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 3: or throw a back infield.

511
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 4: That's what's good.

512
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 3: Like he comes up with some ras sometimes, but that's

513
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 3: because he's wanting to, like he's thinking about a tackle.

514
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 1: They're talking at the moment. The word going around he'll

515
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: play next year with the Roosters and then he'll go

516
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: back to union that they want him back, I mean

517
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: for the Raby Union. As far as winning the World

518
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: Cup or having an impact in the World Cup. They

519
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: must be looking at him, mark at the Roosters playing

520
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,680
Speaker 1: playing for the Roosters, getting it, getting stronger in certain

521
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: areas of games, and rubbing their hands together. If they

522
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: can get him back, that's that's pretty It would have

523
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 1: been like, you know, he's an outstanding player and outstanding athlete,

524
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: but there's certain areas in rugby league that you can

525
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 1: see he's improving week in week out. But it's funny

526
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: kind of what you just said there. It is so

527
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: true in the modern game is that you want to

528
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 1: consolidate the points you've got. You don't want to be

529
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: being frivolous with the football. But the moment you try

530
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 1: to shut your own game down and just focus and

531
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: tie on defense, I'll just run you down. But you know,

532
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: kind of it must be just I just thought. Started

533
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 1: the year, we interview with Angus Crichton and we asked

534
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: him there, is it nice to look at the expert

535
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 1: predictions at the start of the year, not you know

536
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: all those count, but just to not see a lot

537
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 1: of those guys have you in the eight Most of

538
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: times you pick up and you're looking, mate, Roosters win

539
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: the comp, win the comp, and they say, we don't

540
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: you know, you don't worry about the outside noise, but

541
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: it does. It sweeps in just the lower expectations, particularly

542
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: for the younger Blakes. It just makes you. You enjoy

543
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 1: your football a lot more.

544
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, have to you do.

545
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually funy. It's pretty petty of for me.

546
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 2: But I remember, like seeing some stuff on Instagram. I

547
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 2: screenshot at it just so I like would have that

548
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: and in my memory pain. But yeah, heaps everyone everyone,

549
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: Everyone wrote us off. But I also knew the way

550
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: we're training, like what sort of what we're capable of,

551
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 2: because you do, you lose a lot of talent. But

552
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: the club spent a lot of money on the academy,

553
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: all that, you know, the units they've got, all the

554
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 2: all of those young guys living in units together, and

555
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 2: I think they had to, I guess, show faith in

556
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: in the work that they've done there and rely on that.

557
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 2: And now you're starting to see guys like you know,

558
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: see who's been in our team for a fairweile and

559
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: he's he's great young player. He's got so much more

560
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: growth in him too. I think Blake Steep's come through

561
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 2: Benaiah who played hooker on the weekend for US. Two

562
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: of those great kicks ye kick the twenty that bounce

563
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 2: back like Celessie as well. Yeah, there's some other guys

564
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: that have sort of like stood up, like young Taylor

565
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: who's played a few games for US, the front rower. Yeah,

566
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: you go and like say it like there's all of

567
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 2: these guys that they've shown faith in and and you're

568
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 2: starting to see I guess some of the fruits of that.

569
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, but I think the biggest thing for us

570
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: is just finding that consistency week to week. And you know,

571
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: for me, like early days, I can remember good one week,

572
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: terrible the next because just this constant battle of you know,

573
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: my football probably has got more consistent in the last

574
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 2: couple of years, and you know that comes with experience

575
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: and time and you know that there's going to be

576
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: a few teething issues with this.

577
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 3: Has been nice?

578
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 4: Has it been nice?

579
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: Now?

580
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 3: Like you've cemented a role, like because you've played a

581
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 3: lot of different positions. You played fullback for a stint

582
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 3: there the early days at the Rooster's Lock fivetes.

583
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 4: Did you play at the nights.

584
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 2: That one year where they it was funny because I

585
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: played it the year before, so Kaitlyn was injured for

586
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 2: a game where he hurt himself for a game, and

587
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: then I moved to fullback in it, I think with

588
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: us and the Dogs and ended up scoring two tries

589
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: and I think from there Brown he was like, oh,

590
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: maybe we moved kind of a fullback and.

591
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 1: It's up there with the time that breath went to

592
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: fullback once.

593
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 4: But is it any nice?

594
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: Like it seems like the last couple of years you've

595
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 3: you've really found your role in at nine, like because

596
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: people probably didn't know whether Roosters is going to play

597
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 3: as a forwardeen. It must be nice having that sort

598
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: of consistency you can train there all year.

599
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, I think I still think Locke's my

600
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: best position. Yeah, yeah, I do. I think the freedom

601
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: of Locke is it just enables me to like run

602
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: the ball a bit more. I can also being like

603
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: a half full back and a hooker, like you know,

604
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: I can be another link man through the middle. But

605
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: it has been good this year just to sort of

606
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: pretty much focus on nine and thirteen mostly nine. You know,

607
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: we've sort of cheese going on to souths Now, but

608
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 2: the emergence of Benaiah like will probably mean that I'll

609
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 2: play more thirteen towards the back end of the year.

610
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: Can I ask you on that on the move to

611
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: the Roosters and as yourself and Kurt me and remind

612
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: me so much. You know, you're so similar in a

613
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: lot of ways in the fact that you know, watching

614
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: you guys, the ability to play really fast and sometimes

615
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: even kind of you know, not tickling the brakes enough,

616
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: you know, playing that thrust all the time. And I

617
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: think both years were like that at Newcastle, but particularly Kurt.

618
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 1: I was watching Kurt at Newcastle sometimes come on, mane,

619
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: you got to squoeze the breaks. Everything was full tilt

620
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: all the time, both of you. You're going to the

621
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: roosters and Kurt going to the dogs. I'm suing you

622
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: just slow down a little bit more and far more selective.

623
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: Is that something that Robbo worked on with you.

624
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if it were, like, yeah, we definitely

625
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: spoke about it, because I think that's the reason why

626
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: you know, I've moved around so much. Was the way

627
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: that I played was like my strength, but it was

628
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: also what brought me undone and you know, like we

629
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 2: can talk about probably when I was out here doing

630
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: the halves stuff. It was all just one hundred miles

631
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: an hour. And with that, you know, you create, you

632
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: do some good stuff, but then you also do a

633
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: lot of bad stuff as well. And I would just

634
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: like do some yeah, great things, and then I would

635
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: just make some of the dumbest and worst mistakes ever.

636
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it was like me just

637
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: playing more football and just realizing you didn't need to

638
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: be in a rush, but even earlier in my career,

639
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: I just felt like generally I was in a rush

640
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: with everything, you know, like I wanted to be a

641
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: starting player and all this sort of stuff. But as

642
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: it's worked out, you know, being moved around and just

643
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: being more looking at it, like from taking a step back.

644
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: And I think having injuries probably helped this as well,

645
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: because they just made me slow down. They forced me

646
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: to slow down and actually appreciate that I'm living out

647
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: my childhood dream. Like just even playing off the bench

648
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: is great, and it doesn't matter what position, as long

649
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: as I can go and have an impact on a

650
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: game and just get out there. I was just yeah

651
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: excited to do that, and I feel like freeing myself

652
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: up from that expectation or from aiming for this big

653
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: goal of wanting to do this and score tries every

654
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: week and do this, and just worrying about the present

655
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: moment and just actually going out there and having fun,

656
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: but also understanding how hard the game is as well,

657
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: because you know, like you've got to be in that headspace.

658
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: It's not like you've got to be willing to work hard.

659
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: But just going out there and enjoying myself was like,

660
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, a weight lifted off me, and my

661
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: football has just got more consistent because of that, which

662
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: is weird. It's not contradictory right now, but it's true.

663
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: The temptation in even team sport is to focus on

664
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: yourself because it's so cut cutthroat to get there and say, mate,

665
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: I need to do this, I want to do this.

666
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: If when you just settle and just become part of

667
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: the team, make the enjoyment just goes through the roof,

668
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: doesn't it. When when as opposed to going you wanting

669
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: people to meet your demands, it's a it's a huge difference.

670
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: And when you look back in your decision now, like

671
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: of because it was it was a bit of a

672
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 3: hard decision at the time or your mate to that

673
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 3: NEWI at Newcastle. I think Newcastle maybe even come up

674
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: with more money than the Roosters at the time, but

675
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: you decided.

676
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 4: To go to the Trickies.

677
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: Now being there for a few years, like looking back

678
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 3: on that decision and where you're at now, how do

679
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 3: you see it?

680
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny because if you ask me like

681
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: two years after going back to the Roosters, I would

682
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: have been like, why did I come back here? Yeah,

683
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: because that was when I had so that first year,

684
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,719
Speaker 2: I didn't realize that one of my last games at

685
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: the Nights, I'd done like a little tear in my

686
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: pateel attendant. And then so that next year at the Roosters,

687
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: like I was playing okay, but I was playing on

688
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: one sort of leg and kept just hurting this ptel attendant.

689
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: And then that next preseason then I ruptured it, and

690
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: then I've missed the whole year at the Roosters. And

691
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: then I can remember even saying it to like my

692
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: missus and just being like why did I come back here?

693
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: Like yeah, like what have I done? But I think

694
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: it just shows you you just don't, I don't know,

695
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: you just can't ride the highs too much and ride

696
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: the lows too much because you just never know what's coming.

697
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: Just honestly, just I just stayed, like just try to

698
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,479
Speaker 2: stay the course. I was very lucky. I had, you know,

699
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: great people, great support network around me, because like after

700
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: that year when I had the knee, like it almost

701
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: looked at one point that I was going to have

702
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: to go to the Super League to keep playing, because

703
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: it was honestly, like I remember one day, so the

704
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: roosters are essentially said to me, you know, like, there's

705
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: not we don't really have space for you here. Next year,

706
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: Sandon was going really good, so I sort of thought

707
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: he was going to be in that utility role with

708
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: Luke still being there in the halves. And then I

709
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: remember I was like, god, an off from a Super

710
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 2: League club, and my financial advisors like, mate, you got

711
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: to take it. You've got a mortgage, this sort of stuff.

712
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: I was like losing my mind. And then so I've

713
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: rang Chimesy Steve Gillies, my agent. I'm like, mate, I

714
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: was like, like, surely there's an NFL club out there

715
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: who's willing to take a chance on me. And I

716
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: remember he texted me and he would just like send

717
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: me screenshots of the text messages from the club, from

718
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: the club, That's all I said. It was like kicking

719
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: a man while he was down. I kept getting like, no,

720
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: we're all good. Thanks, No, we're all good. Thanks, No,

721
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: we're all good. Thanks.

722
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 4: You're supposed to protect.

723
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well he was just like I guess this is

724
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: this is the reality, Like this is where you're at.

725
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 4: It's honest. Yeah, yeah, And I just.

726
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: Couldn't believe how quickly like I'd sort of gone from

727
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: you know, like love of my football up at Newcastle

728
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: and then this thing with the knee happens, and then

729
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: all of a sudden I was like, you know, my

730
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: own RL career is over. And then it was only

731
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: really that Gus was Gus Good. Was like I went

732
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: and sort of had a chat with him, and then

733
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: the dogs were like looking at bringing me over there,

734
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: and then from there the Russes did manage to find.

735
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: In that funny though, like like that a low so

736
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: often is followed by your highest heighth advice versa and

737
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: pour our young check balls, stop four tries the week

738
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: before probably the greatest moment, and he's up there in

739
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: his life and then the next week does his a

740
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: cl like you know, I mean, it's.

741
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 3: Just it is, It's an unforgiving game, and like you said,

742
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 3: sometimes those lows can last two years, these long term injuries. Yeah,

743
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 3: you know, I mean you do an acl or and Achilles.

744
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 3: People don't realize how hard mentally.

745
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 4: That ship is.

746
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's guys like you know BRAI like Jade

747
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 2: and Brayley, Billy Smith, like they've gone through like two

748
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 2: a cls Achilles, Like I think Billy's had three Billy's

749
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: I can't remember, it's two or three a cls. But

750
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: then he also had the foot what's the big one

751
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 2: in the foot Liz Frank, So he had one of those,

752
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: like and then just for him to steal like we

753
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: see how good he's playing now, and it was always

754
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,479
Speaker 2: it's always been there for Billy, but just for him to, yeah,

755
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: stick through all of that because it has just been

756
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: so easy for guys like that to throw it all away.

757
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 2: But we'll talk about what.

758
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: Are your highs?

759
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 4: Last year?

760
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: Made State of Origin run that's a rapid rise, that's yeah.

761
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, what was that?

762
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: Like?

763
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 3: Did you did you because your your form was outstanding,

764
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 3: they had to put you in the role, But did

765
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 3: you expect Like, how surreal was that few sort of

766
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: going through all that and then coming into an origin spot.

767
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was pretty wild, to be honest.

768
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: I just like because every year, you know, I would

769
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: always do my your goals or whatever looking at the

770
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 2: and you'd always say like state of origin, state of origin.

771
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: But no year I was like, really a chance because

772
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: I've never played consistent footy enough to actually warrant even

773
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: being talked about. But that year, going like going into

774
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,479
Speaker 2: last year, I think my goal was like play every

775
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: game for the Roosters and then be in the origin discussion.

776
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: Was like I had it. I wrote it up in

777
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 2: my mirror in my bedroom. And Round one Roosters didn't

778
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: get Yeah, yeah, both of us. So it was like

779
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: New South Wales cut for the first couple of weeks

780
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 2: and I'm just thinking, oh god, there's going to be

781
00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: a long year. And then so obviously couldn't play every

782
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: game at n L for the Roosters, but then round

783
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 2: three got caught up, and yeah, just was like let's

784
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: just go and have fun, like don't put any pressure

785
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 2: on yourself, kind of that mindset that I was talking

786
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 2: about before, and then yeah, ended up just stringing enough

787
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: good games together. And then I remember after probably like

788
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: five or six weeks of playing, and Robbo sat me

789
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: down and he's like, Okay, it's getting pretty close to

790
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 2: our origent selection. Just like so you know, like Madges called

791
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: me and he's looking at you, and I was like,

792
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: what the hell? Really? Yeah, yeah, because you know some

793
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: of the journeys you run, like Danny Widler lives in Bondo,

794
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: so running to him down the main street, He's like, mate,

795
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 2: I'm hearing your clothes to Origin. And I just thought like, yeah, yeah,

796
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: these guys journeys like they're probably he's probably just like

797
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: saying like maybe he's heard a whisper. It's probably not

798
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: actually a chance. And then yeah, and in reality, I

799
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: just thought that ship might have sailed. And I just

800
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: think it was very lucky timing from me. You know,

801
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 2: Magic come in with this new philosophy, wanted to bring

802
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: a new squad in. I was playing well enough, and

803
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: just the timing of everything it just worked out. And

804
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 2: then YE had to be able to play well actually

805
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 2: because I'd heard I was closed. But then we played

806
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: Magic Ground maybe so Robbo's told me that the week

807
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 2: after we've played, and then I've gone and I've fractured

808
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: my larynx in my throat, and then so now you're

809
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: going to miss four weeks. And I missed the first

810
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: Origin because of that, And then once I got in,

811
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 2: I was thinking, Jesus, I've been this close to getting

812
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: picked for Origin and now I've gone and fractured my laryx,

813
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: and then thinking, you know, if they go good and

814
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: they win, like, I'm probably a chance of not getting

815
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 2: picked now, and then yeah they didn't. Obviously Sue got

816
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: SimBin and they lost, and then Mad just picked me

817
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: and then sort of said, you know, luck, you probably

818
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: would have been any first game if you didn't have

819
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: the throat injury.

820
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 4: And it's funny sliding doors.

821
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: If you play first game and they get beat, yeah,

822
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 3: you don't know who. You don't know who gets dropped

823
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 3: like it they look for answers, had you.

824
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: I was walking in to training for the first ever

825
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: the Blues, and we spoke to a few of the

826
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: boys that have been here before. It is for people

827
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: that want to know what it's like. It is like

828
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: walking to a new school yard, isn't it. It's just mate,

829
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: you're shitting yourself.

830
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I can remember how nervous it was

831
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: for the first training. It was like you know when

832
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: you first started training with the NURL squad.

833
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was looking at all your heroes.

834
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, man, I haven't been this nervous

835
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 2: for training for eight nine years far out and then yeah,

836
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: just remember like first pass, now, this first past, now

837
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: this first like.

838
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: You just go, don't drop it. Yeah, first of camp

839
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: I walked into I think it was Laza. I walked

840
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: in one camp and one of my first ever one.

841
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: Laso is just you know, kind of the game, but big, gruff, angry,

842
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: cranky guy. I remember walking and I'll see Lazo and

843
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: go fucking lost Lazzo and I got a Lazo hair

844
00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: going yes did you blokes play? Yes? Cowboys? I just

845
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: go I said, wow, we got boot he gus fucking

846
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: dogs just walked off. Fuck yeah you have. But going

847
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: in there, who was the guy that sort of settled

848
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: your well?

849
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: I guess like me and Gussie are pretty tight, so

850
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: going in there with him, I think we might have

851
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: even got picked up in the same car together. So

852
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 2: just sort of gone out there with him and Spencer

853
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: as well, like yeah, those guys spending done the first one,

854
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: so he sort of knew what he was going into

855
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 2: the second Origin camp. But those guys were just yeah,

856
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 2: that the ones that I guess initially yeah, made me

857
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: sort of feel comfortable. But I just remember the whole

858
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 2: week was like the biggest blue I got so stitched

859
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: up to fire out. It was funny. So we got

860
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 2: there and like, no one really says like, this is

861
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: what we're doing. They're just like, go upstairs, you gotta

862
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: sign your contract and then just get checked out by

863
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: the physios and they'll give you your gear bag. And

864
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: I can just remember rocking up there, like even just

865
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 2: the news cameras at the hotel. You're thinking, Jesus is

866
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 2: like different intensity. It just comes with the whole week.

867
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: And then I walk upstairs Zero big serios like, which

868
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: is good because I've known zero for a long long time.

869
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 2: Have like and there's a lot of guys that I

870
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: knew that I'd played with or played sort of against,

871
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: and you know, you're friendly about that camaraderie before players,

872
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: so you know guys, you've had beers with guys before

873
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff played, you know, junior rep stuff

874
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: with different people, and Sira goes, here's your gearbag mate.

875
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 2: And then so Madges called me and mue in because

876
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: you wanted to show us this video, which was pretty cool.

877
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 2: And then that is like all right, so we'll go

878
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: be downstairs in five minutes. We're like, we're going to

879
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: go over and do the media stuff. So going to

880
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: my gearbag and I'm like looking through it and I'm thinking,

881
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 2: I can't be late to be downstairs, Like this is

882
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: your first thing, don't you can't be late. It's got

883
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: five minutes. I'm going through my gearbag. I'm looking for

884
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: shorts and everything's in packages and stuff and it's hard

885
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 2: to get like a read. So I'm ripping everything. It's

886
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: making a mess everywhere. And I try these shorts and

887
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 2: I'm like looking at these can't be right. And I'm like, well,

888
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: and look at the time. Go bro, you've got a minute.

889
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: You gotta get downstairs on text us, what are you

890
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: wearing to go? Just just wear shorts and like a

891
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: polo and a jumper, So go downstairs. I'm telling you,

892
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 2: these shorts are that tight, the game shorts. Nah. I

893
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 2: walked down into the team room. Everyone's looking at me.

894
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: They just start cracking up. SiO, give me the woman's shorts.

895
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 2: So that time on me, like the medium is yeah,

896
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: because I don't know if you've got the he reckons,

897
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: you've got the W and the M confused, I reckon Yeah,

898
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 2: And I've just walked into this team room and there

899
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: just everyone's cracking up.

900
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 4: You got given the.

901
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: Year film sitting on the bench, you know, and that

902
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: in that game too, you know, everything's in the balance

903
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: waiting for the call.

904
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: We'll see the game to actually made. He was the

905
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: one where we'd had that really dominant first taf YEP.

906
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: So I was just sort of thinking like, yeah, go it, like,

907
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: don't't blow it. Yeah, don't blow it, like you know,

908
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: and then it was just once I got on, was

909
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: just like just enjoy this, like just soak it up,

910
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: like take them on to do it sort of just yeah,

911
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: back yourself and get into your first tackle and first run,

912
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: similar to like when you make your first grade thea boo.

913
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: You know, you just sort of like, I just want

914
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: to get out there and make your first run on

915
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 2: first tackle. But game three was probably a bit more Yeah.

916
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: When you go on, So you go on, the game

917
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: is in the balance, so how you feel them when

918
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: you're staying there with the touch judge about to go

919
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: on the field.

920
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, just sort of you know, because you play the

921
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 2: game one hundred times through your head. You're sitting on

922
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: there for sixty minutes and then cause your cause your name,

923
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: and you just yeah, just sort of want to go

924
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: in and just not put any pressure, like you know.

925
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: It's it's that contradiction of you want to go out

926
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: there and you want to perform. But I think for me,

927
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: I know I'm at my best when I don't like

928
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: I just go out there and be in the mote.

929
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: Just yeah, go on the flow. And I just wanted

930
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 2: to get out there and yeah, just try and contribute

931
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 2: in any way possible, and whatever I was doing in

932
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: that moment, just nail it. So whether it was that

933
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 2: pass or like you know, where it's yeah, a pass

934
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: you run, or just get my first tackle. Make sure

935
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 2: I win my first tackle. Get your step.

936
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: It was a crazy finish that game too, Like that

937
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: was the one where you hit Angus Crichton.

938
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 4: He does a horrendous offload to you.

939
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I.

940
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 3: Trolled along the ground hand grenade to Romi. Romi goes

941
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: through find Bradman to score that mad match winning try.

942
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: Like that must have been some like talk about a

943
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 3: dream first series in Origin?

944
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 4: Was that was that? That's as good as it gets.

945
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just remember after the games being like, what

946
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: the hell has happened? Yeah in the last you know,

947
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: like we talked about the sort of the twelve months before,

948
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 2: and just thinking like if you told me this had happened,

949
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: like this is going to happen next year, I just

950
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: would have been like, you lie, mate, No, there's no way.

951
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 2: So just for it all to happen, I was just yeah,

952
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 2: so grateful and just try to really enjoy everything as

953
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 2: much as I could.

954
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: Well would I tell you terrific, Blake. That's the end

955
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: of part one, right, that's time to jump over for

956
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: part two, which I hope you enjoy every bit as

957
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: much I know you will.