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Speaker 1: Gooday, super Coaches, this is the AFL Super Coach Show.

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Speaker 1: You're in and our guard of the greatest game on Earth.

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Speaker 1: We've got round eighteen to the bag, round nineteen to

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Speaker 1: prove you. I am your host. James Clemenson joining me today. Ah,

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Speaker 1: two of the brightest minds in the Super Coach universe.

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Speaker 1: And a little fella. We've got Al Payton here. How

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Speaker 1: are you well?

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Speaker 2: Am I a little fella?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we're both.

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Speaker 1: That's the guru. L Peyton then four foot two in

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Speaker 1: an attitude.

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Speaker 4: It's bad that Yeah, really good to be back. I

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Speaker 4: haven't been on this into the early rounds. I've got

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Speaker 4: the got the call up. Must have been a few outs.

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Speaker 4: I'm like the sub the subvest On for fifteen weeks, but.

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Speaker 2: I'm Billy Gowling.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the Billy down. I'll take that. I'll tell

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Speaker 3: that he's a beast.

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Speaker 1: But we have also one of the really really really

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Speaker 1: crucial aspects and brains behind super Coach. We have Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Freako from Champion Data on later, which is really really funny.

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Speaker 1: So obviously stick around for that. Deal with me. Listen

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Speaker 1: to these smart brain guys and we'll go from there.

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Speaker 1: Right and remember this show obviously proudly brought to you

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Speaker 1: by super Coach Plus follow your super Coach scores live

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Speaker 1: on game day. God, it's good to see them tick up,

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Speaker 1: but when they're just not taking a longer, this sucks.

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Speaker 1: You can see all your break Evans projected scores and

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Speaker 1: link and subscribe. A wait, gentlemen, let's start it off

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Speaker 1: with the rap. Round eighteen Rap the heroes and villains.

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Speaker 1: I've got a couple of easy ones. Yeah, my heroes

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Speaker 1: are always at home. Noah Anderson, simple as that, Lock

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Speaker 1: and Lock at home, Noah Anderson.

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Speaker 3: At home, Suns just in general.

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Speaker 1: Outside of that, my beloved ned Moyle is one of

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Speaker 1: my heroes. Is great, no what ever, but this is

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Speaker 1: it so Nedma rips off one hundred and ten this week.

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Speaker 1: I brought him in to replace Witsy. A couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, I didn't have Joe Witz, but obviously this

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Speaker 1: was part of the I think the Jordan's sweet just

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Speaker 1: the Grundy Gorn, just like the miasma of your rucks,

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Speaker 1: and Witsy goes out. I think I was running Luke

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Speaker 1: Jackson and Gorn and I'm like, all right, this will

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Speaker 1: give me a chance to move Jackson forward, just to

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Speaker 1: plug and play him as my F six and Ned

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Speaker 1: Moyle three hund sixteen k boom. He's been fantastic for me.

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Speaker 1: I've enjoyed this greatly, and to be honest, that's one

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Speaker 1: of the big reasons I got to twenty three twenty

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Speaker 1: nine this week because a lot of my other primos

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Speaker 1: really let me do on long, hard talk at the

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Speaker 1: boys and just like, come on, lift your game, mostly

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Speaker 1: my villain being Harry Chizel and Nick Dakos. The backline

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Speaker 1: is what are we doing here?

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Speaker 3: What do we do?

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Speaker 1: In seventy five and eighty nine break and Hearts. The

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Speaker 1: one that sticks out to me though, is probably my pod,

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Speaker 1: my pod from the start of the years, mean Jason

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Speaker 1: Horn Francis. He has these incredible dizzying highs and some

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Speaker 1: toasty gummy lows.

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Speaker 3: He looked really off on the weekend.

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Speaker 1: He was so off.

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Speaker 5: He's just starting fights and he's when he starts doing that, yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's trouble.

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Speaker 3: He gets in his own head of it. I think

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Speaker 3: Knocko for super.

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Speaker 1: He's got the haircut of a bloke you're starting fights

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Speaker 1: on Heinley Street and like what are we doing here,

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Speaker 1: to the point where kin Hinckley's had to sit him

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Speaker 1: down have a big old yeah father son talk. We

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Speaker 1: talked this out on the AFL Today show Forty Dads,

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Speaker 1: but Horner broke my heart forty six out forty six.

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Speaker 1: This was just I tried to loop last in Humphreys

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Speaker 1: gotten to go, oh god, he got one hundred and

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Speaker 1: swing that around. But the Hero's Villains, it was a

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Speaker 1: lot going on this week, Jike Caldwell's as well, just

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Speaker 3: Coldwell, he's been great.

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Speaker 1: A lot of time for Joke Coldwell out Heroes Villains score.

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Speaker 5: It was an interesting weekend for me because I went

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Speaker 5: hiking on Friday, went down to Wilson's prom Lovely Spot,

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Speaker 5: to the to the universe stress on it actually was yeah,

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Speaker 5: the scores, and the first thing I thought when I

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Speaker 5: Tim didn't trade it at him sad because he was

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Speaker 5: going to h and he went bananas. But I think

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Speaker 5: fortunately he held fire on that one, so that was

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Speaker 5: good news. But yeah, my team is just plodding along

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Speaker 5: at this stage of the season, two to eight to

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Speaker 5: two and the ranking sliding down to three seventy, so

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Speaker 5: I mean, still having a good year, but yeah, just

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Speaker 5: losing ground a little bit at the moment. And what

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Speaker 5: the worrying thing for me is I'm now only forty

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Speaker 5: two points ahead of the Phantom.

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Speaker 2: Who's absolutely charging in the other direction.

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Speaker 5: And the big difference really is that he brought in

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Speaker 5: Locke Neil about four or five weeks ago, and I mean,

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Speaker 5: I think I got elder you that week, so I

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Speaker 5: can't complain He's been a great pick up as well.

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Speaker 5: But just the people are going to be sick of

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Speaker 5: hearing me complain about Matt Row because I can't get

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Speaker 5: rid of him last six weeks. Yeah, I really wanted

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Speaker 5: to trade him last week, but then we had all

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Speaker 5: this carnage and I ended up trading Gorne. I also

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Speaker 5: had McGavin obviously, we had Heeney out, and then Zack

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Speaker 5: Fishy didn't come back, which is causing me problems. So

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Speaker 5: had to hang on to him. And just sixty five points,

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's scoring. We talked about how well these

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Speaker 5: rookies went on the weekend, and you get supposed Primo

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Speaker 5: scoring sixty five at home as well, exactly above the parallel,

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Speaker 5: all that stuff, and then yeah, when the fantom's got

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Speaker 5: an Errol Gordon or something like that. We'll get into

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Speaker 5: that's just absolutely killing me. So this week hopefully I

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Speaker 5: if you know, mcgoven comes back, does Fisher come back,

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Speaker 5: you know, if I have to deal with some of

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Speaker 5: these issues. So I still have four trades, which is good,

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Speaker 5: but yeah, a few issues going on.

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Speaker 3: Issues.

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Speaker 1: Two things with this, I love the idea of Al

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Speaker 1: just going down to Wilson's Prime and just like the

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Speaker 1: sun shining on his face just one minute, his phone

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Speaker 1: has got no reception. I'm free. Yeah, this is great,

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Speaker 1: just having like one moment where he's like.

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Speaker 4: This is holding up his phone on the top of

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Speaker 4: the BA I look Jackson.

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Speaker 1: On the flip side is then he gets beaten by

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Speaker 1: Gilbert Gardner as well.

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Speaker 2: Gilbert, thanks for bringing that up, and also by me.

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Speaker 1: I think this won't be the first week I've outscored

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Speaker 1: you this year.

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Speaker 3: Al, You're er, Jimmy Clouds.

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Speaker 2: We're on boy.

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Speaker 5: I think they came up when I opened the app

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Speaker 5: and it says, you know your head to head results

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Speaker 5: this weekend, You've been beaten by Gilbert and James.

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Speaker 3: That's not Yeah, that's not. I was trying to give

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Speaker 3: you just a nice, nice little win there.

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Speaker 1: This is a sympathy sympathy win. At the end of

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Speaker 1: the season. Stats Guy Hero Villain overall score school.

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Speaker 3: For my score.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad I actually didn't play out this week because

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Speaker 4: I got two points less. So if I had to play,

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Speaker 4: I got to to a zero, so literally two points less.

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 4: If I was in the comp with you, I would

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Speaker 4: have been filthy if I lost to you by two points.

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Speaker 3: So but yeah, not too good. I still need to.

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Speaker 4: Finish my team just because of the carnage the last

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Speaker 4: couple of weeks, so that's been a bit of a worry.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 4: I'll go hero, my hero. I talked about him on

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Speaker 4: the AFL Today show loss in Umfries. I thought he

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Speaker 4: was awesome. His efficiency is just perfect for super Coach.

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Speaker 4: He just gets so many, so much ball behind the plate.

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Speaker 3: Awesome.

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Speaker 4: So one hundred and eight for him, Villain Tom Green,

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Speaker 4: I know he's still got ninety three, and you go, oh,

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Speaker 4: that's not a bad score. If you're getting thirty seven touches,

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Speaker 4: you should be on at least one hundred and forty,

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Speaker 4: not ninety three. That is a massive villain for me.

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Speaker 4: I'm still going to back him in for the next

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Speaker 4: couple of weeks for vice captain and captain. But that

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Speaker 4: was really filthy with that. You go, thirty touches, forty

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Speaker 4: percent efficiency. I saw a super coach posted that one.

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Speaker 4: The other one for me, I brought in Tim English.

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Speaker 4: I only got eighty five, so I was like, that's

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Speaker 4: a decent pickup from Gorne. Obviously Gorne was out and

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Speaker 4: really disappointed that English was only eighty five.

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Speaker 3: All did mention that he was only on forty odd

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Speaker 3: at three quarter time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah or something like that.

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Speaker 5: So, yeah, that's about when I got the reception back

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Speaker 5: Saturday night.

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Speaker 3: So I was worried that he was only going to

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Speaker 3: get yeah, fifty odd but five it's not too bad.

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Speaker 3: But that probably cost me probably fifty points as well.

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Speaker 5: Without going as like, so you've got English eighty five,

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Speaker 5: I brought in the nanked just absolute top dollar one

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Speaker 5: hundred and seven. Okay, you'll take then Jimmy's got ned

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Speaker 5: moy I. He's wiping the floor with us. I'm just saying, look,

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Speaker 5: I'm just maybe I've just been you know, foxing this

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Speaker 5: entire year, be bad supercoach, just like just lulling you

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Speaker 5: all into a false sense of name or anything.

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Speaker 1: Bang the need moyl trade. Here we go, all right,

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Speaker 1: outside of that super coach news, injuries and suspensions. Now

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Speaker 1: we dealt with a whole bunch of carnage last week.

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Speaker 1: We do a follow up from the carnage. Obviously, Isaac

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Speaker 1: Keeney will be back this week, which is very very good,

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Speaker 1: and he goes straight into obviously this Sydney team. Their

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Speaker 1: biggest thing was like, oh, how do we fit Luke

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Speaker 1: Park at Callum Mills And hey, it's like turns out

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Speaker 1: pretty easy. You can exactly a couple of injuries if

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Speaker 1: they go gone owl. He's out of his moonboot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So he was on the radio this morning saying

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Speaker 5: out of the moonboot. And the quote I've written down

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Speaker 5: here is it's day by day. I'll run today, I

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Speaker 5: see who I'll pull up tomorrow, maybe run again Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Then if I get picked, dot dot dot.

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Speaker 5: But he also still he also said the docs said

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Speaker 5: there was going to be two to three weeks, and

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Speaker 5: if it is two to three, he'll take that, just

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Speaker 5: making sure it's not four.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's probably more realistic.

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Speaker 5: Surely, chipped Fibrilla it turned out to be, and he

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Speaker 1: Jeremy McGovern's like, minor, bro, what can't breathe? Dude, I

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Speaker 2: So yeah, wife him over, met him and they.

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Speaker 1: Ol take it Away.

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Speaker 5: To look at Zach Fish's numbers in the VFL, he

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Speaker 5: mean that's not bad, not exactly you know, bashing the

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Speaker 3: I've been frustrated with him all year, but I think

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Speaker 4: I think I think he will come back in because

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Speaker 5: He'll be out for a while if we didn't, if

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Speaker 1: Away from home as well next week, so they got

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Speaker 5: And it was around this time last year that the

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Speaker 1: Exactly, nice one, all right. Biggest talking points after round eighteen.

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Speaker 1: I love these ones because the saviors, the trading options,

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Speaker 1: the cheapies. We talked about Matthaeus Philippoo, Okaya, Matthaeus, Lennie Hayes,

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Speaker 3: Most inefficient man in the business.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to ride that train on? That is

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just I'm so tired all the time, I

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Speaker 3: Job booming left boute go when I talk about your booth.

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Speaker 5: I love this and you have to trade a Zach

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Speaker 5: Toby Green I think had thirteen possessions, but kick four

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Speaker 5: putting up some good numbers for only three forty K

438
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Speaker 5: and then Steer. It is just the safe, you know,

439
00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,240
Speaker 5: the opposite of kind of Toby Green, where you're just

440
00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,800
Speaker 5: going to get that one ten, one fifteen points every week.

441
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Speaker 2: He's got a great role now.

442
00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,000
Speaker 5: He just sort of takes the set of bounces and

443
00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,240
Speaker 5: then maybe floats back and gets some of the stuff

444
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Speaker 5: around the middle of the ground and the half back line,

445
00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,160
Speaker 5: which you know he's so good at. So yeah, still

446
00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,160
Speaker 5: like him as a That's still a really great price

447
00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:20,600
Speaker 5: for him, even though he was sort of f fifty

448
00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,879
Speaker 5: K a few weeks ago. So a few cheap options

449
00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,560
Speaker 5: there and guys that you could hopefully get with, you know,

450
00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,800
Speaker 5: maybe one trade because now it's pretty hard to do

451
00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,720
Speaker 5: the old down Green, one down, one up with the

452
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Speaker 5: trades at a minimum unless.

453
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Speaker 1: You're like our buddy Leo who has two boosts and

454
00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,880
Speaker 1: one trade. It's just too good, Pacific Coach, you didn't

455
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Speaker 1: even need the amazing gear. All right. This is a

456
00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,879
Speaker 1: al specialty because we are getting to the pointy end

457
00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,280
Speaker 1: of the season obviously, and what that means is you're

458
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Speaker 1: actually looking for pods antipods.

459
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Speaker 3: I love that as well.

460
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Speaker 1: He love a good antipod. If you've got too many

461
00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,359
Speaker 1: people might have have a dude, you're off him? Simple

462
00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,840
Speaker 1: was that got to stick? Stick away from the anti pod?

463
00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,520
Speaker 1: Or if you just need that safety, you're sticking with antipod.

464
00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,439
Speaker 1: But out have you got some big pods for us?

465
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Speaker 4: Like?

466
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Speaker 1: Who are you looking at for this one? Because I

467
00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,320
Speaker 1: mean we've already mentioned my beloved ned ned Moyle, but

468
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,879
Speaker 1: how many teams is he? Exactly my question to have

469
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Speaker 1: a look stats boy. But it's like these are the

470
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Speaker 1: sort of dudes where you looked at the top one

471
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Speaker 1: percent of super Coach players and sort of looking at

472
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Speaker 1: some of the percentages of like the ownership of someone

473
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Speaker 1: like Ji Cardwell and like these are like it's great

474
00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,080
Speaker 1: to have that steady presence in your forward line. You

475
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Speaker 1: have like one of those top f you know, basically

476
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Speaker 1: top four six forward for the season, of course, but

477
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Speaker 1: can you do better? Like that's the question, right, It's like,

478
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Speaker 1: is there a pot out there that might just sort

479
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,480
Speaker 1: of pop off for the next three weeks or something

480
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Speaker 1: to sort of help you boost up the rankings or

481
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Speaker 1: win some of these leagues.

482
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Speaker 5: Well this was yeah, I was looking up these numbers

483
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,080
Speaker 5: just because trades are running low and a lot of

484
00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,359
Speaker 5: people have a finished team or you know, in a

485
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,639
Speaker 5: quotes finished team, and it really comes down to your

486
00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 5: head to head matchups and people you're against in the rankings.

487
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Speaker 5: Like I'm trying to hold off the Phantom. It's like,

488
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,359
Speaker 5: you know, if Bond scores well or Tom Green is

489
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,920
Speaker 5: a bit disappointing, it's like, well that's annoying, but most

490
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 5: other people have him, so it sort of covers you

491
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Speaker 5: a bit.

492
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're not falling too much.

493
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Speaker 5: Or if he goes off, you know, you love those points,

494
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 5: but everyone kind of has him, so it doesn't make

495
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Speaker 5: a huge difference in terms of rankings and head team matchups.

496
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Speaker 5: Someone like you know, Decos falls into a similar bracket.

497
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,479
Speaker 5: So it's looking at, well, who are the players you've

498
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Speaker 5: got that are actually setting you apart, and obviously you're

499
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Speaker 5: barracking really hard for those pods. And so I've got

500
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 5: someone like Jordan Clark in defense is in nineteen percent

501
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Speaker 5: of teams in looking at the top ten percent, so roughly,

502
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Speaker 5: you know, twenty thousand in the rankings, and Bailey Dale's

503
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,440
Speaker 5: in twenty seven percent. They both scored pretty well on

504
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,399
Speaker 5: the weekend, so that's great, so they're maybe getting me

505
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 5: ahead of some other teams, but then it can hurt

506
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Speaker 5: you going the other way. So you know, I've got

507
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Speaker 5: McGovern who's only in nine percent and Matt Rowe who

508
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 5: trying not to mention, but he's in seventeen percent of teams,

509
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 5: so that just absolutely kills you when he scores badly

510
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 5: and you know hardly anyone else has him, that's really painful.

511
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 5: And then, yeah, I wanted to talk about the idea.

512
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 5: So they're your pods, but then you've got antipods, which

513
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 5: is who are the players that are highly owned that

514
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 5: you don't have. So it's a bit like barracking for

515
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 5: teams that you you know, you want their draft picks,

516
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 5: so you want them to finish low. Who do you

517
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 5: want to score? You know, not that well because lots

518
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 5: of other people have them and you don't. And you

519
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 5: mentioned Corwell, he's the one that stands out for me.

520
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 5: He's now in seventy three percent of teams, in the

521
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Speaker 5: top ten percent, and I haven't got him. So the

522
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 5: fact that he's scoring so well is really hurting me

523
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 5: every week. So in terms of my team, the other

524
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 5: highest owned ones, Dan Houston's in fifty seven percent of

525
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 5: those teams and Nick Martin in fifty two percent. So

526
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Speaker 5: they both scored all right, especially Martin had a fantastic

527
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 5: game on the weekend, so that sort of hurt me

528
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 5: as well. And I looked up some numbers just in

529
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Speaker 5: terms of the overall ownership for right up in the

530
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Speaker 5: top one percent. So Sam Flanders is the most owned player.

531
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Speaker 5: He's in ninety nine point nine percent of teams, in

532
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Speaker 5: the top one percent. But that means there's nine people

533
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Speaker 5: who don't have him one of those those, yeah, it's incredible.

534
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 5: So there's also nine who don't have heeny, there's eighteen

535
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 5: who don't have Deakos and eighty that don't have the bond.

536
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 4: They don't have dacos are probably like that, Yeah, that's

537
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,360
Speaker 4: kind of waked out right the other week.

538
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 3: But for Heeny or or Flanders.

539
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah that's amazing. So yeah, but it's suoys.

540
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 5: They're obviously still going alright, you can you know, a

541
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 5: couple teams can be different, but yeah, it'd be a

542
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 5: pretty hard watch, barracking trying to break against Ned Flanders

543
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 5: every week. Yeah, but yeah, those are the names that

544
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,919
Speaker 5: jumped out for me. And yeah, Errol is the other

545
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 5: one who's in forty five percent of teams, and then

546
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Speaker 5: Locky Neil amazing not quite a pod, you wouldn't say,

547
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 5: but thirty five percent. And that's yeah, the phantoms huge

548
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 5: point of different. So when he's going off every week

549
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 5: and I'm looking at some of my guys, yeah, that's

550
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 5: that's the big difference in the stage of the year.

551
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Speaker 4: It is.

552
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Speaker 1: So this is like when you're talking about those percentages

553
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Speaker 1: as the top one percent of coaches and then even overall,

554
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: like I think Locky Neil is still only like sixteen

555
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: percent of overall teams this year. It's Likerazy win another

556
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 1: brown though, and like next year he might be owned

557
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 1: by four percent. What we do here, this is no

558
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: backwards dude, It's a weapon. But I think if you

559
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: look at some of the past three round averages like

560
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: over the overall ownership as well. Like the one that

561
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: stuck out to me was Patty Crips is only an

562
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 1: eight point five percent, and you're like, that's fine, that

563
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: makes a bit of sense. But he has been absolutely

564
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: already the last little while. He's averaged one hundred and

565
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,479
Speaker 1: thirty four point three over the last three rounds, one

566
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen over the last five. So Tom Deaconing

567
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: is only in seven point four percent, and obviously he

568
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 1: had a massive run. And I do wonder if Carlton

569
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 1: sort of just go, yeah, this whole Pido two rock thing,

570
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 1: that's not we're not really vibrant on this because we're

571
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: three and five when Pido plays. So TDK could be

572
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: another pod. I guess if you're looking at that sort

573
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: of if you want to downgrade from Gorne, if you

574
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: didn't last week and you're like still nervous about that,

575
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. Just a couple of names fighting out there,

576
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: and one of the ones that I always love is

577
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Speaker 1: Josh Dunkley. He had like slightly quite a week this week,

578
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: but with everybody on the nail train, you have a

579
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: Dunkley sort of just like popping up every so often

580
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: just to really really really go nuts, especially at the Gabba.

581
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 1: I think his home average is a chaos. So got

582
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: a little bit of time for Josh.

583
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 5: Dunkley Cripper hit fifty seven teams. That's three percent of

584
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 5: the top one percent of Coach's own grips.

585
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 3: Not bad.

586
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 1: I got Ned morri one gym, so you're part of

587
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: the one just in overall. So I want to start

588
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: the Ned Moyle fan Club. At this point, I'll be

589
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: the president and we'll be laughing. We'll get Ned Moults

590
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: hanging out. He'd just be just going. It's going on.

591
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 3: Boys, I don't know.

592
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 1: Just gon't get us another hundred and ten would you need?

593
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: All right, let's go have a chat with the Fantasy

594
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: Freaco himself. This is going to be awesome. Fantasy Freako

595
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 1: from Jampie Data coming.

596
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 3: Up right now.

597
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 1: All right, we are here with the man of the hour,

598
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: it's Fantasy Freako. But before we do that, I just

599
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: have to mention we took the four foot two with

600
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: an attitude, four foot two with an attitude, little stats

601
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: boy and replace him with a patch. This chat with

602
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: Fantasy Freco it is the guru himself. Fantasy Freaco, All

603
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: Things Champion Data Freako.

604
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 3: What is going on?

605
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 4: Good?

606
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 6: I guys, thanks for having me on. It's it's a

607
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 6: good Monday. I at a good score this week, so yeah,

608
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 6: looking forward to the chat.

609
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: I think the big question everyone has is, did you,

610
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 1: just like everybody else, beat Al?

611
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 6: I did I score twy and three hundred and sixty

612
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 6: sixt this week? So it was a good week four

613
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 6: hundred odd last week, So it's been a good couple

614
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 6: of weeks to get that ranking up.

615
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 4: Not bad.

616
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 3: I love this.

617
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Speaker 1: I love having you on for this one because we

618
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,719
Speaker 1: get to go total wonk, which is why we've got

619
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Speaker 1: Patch on here as well, because he's as wonk as

620
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 1: they come, and obviously Al is just for wonk all

621
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Speaker 1: the time. So Hel, what do you want to know

622
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: the most? What do you want to dig into the

623
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Speaker 1: most of Fantasy Freako?

624
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 5: Well, obviously Super Coach is a numbers game. It's all

625
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 5: about the stats and the scores that we're all tracking

626
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 5: so closely every week, and there are a lot of

627
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 5: different elements that go into it. So we'll try and

628
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,479
Speaker 5: explain it and lift a lid a little bit over

629
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 5: the next day a little while to help people understand

630
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 5: how that system works, and you know why players score

631
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 5: the points that they do. And we've already referred to

632
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 5: things on the show Tom Green as thirty seven touches

633
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 5: but only scores ninety odd points, and so it's obviously

634
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 5: a lot. There's a lot more to it than just

635
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 5: to get points for a kick and a mark and

636
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 5: a handble. So without putting you on the spot to

637
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 5: some of the whole thing up in thirty seconds.

638
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: But what.

639
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 5: How did Champion Data develop the ranking points and the

640
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 5: Supercoach formula and what are the key stats that we

641
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 5: really need to be watching for our Supercoach players.

642
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, so the rankings formula was created back in nineteen

643
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 6: ninety nine when we first started capturing games, And essentially

644
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 6: it's just an algorithm which measures the effectiveness of a player.

645
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 6: So it's based on quality and not quantity. And as

646
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 6: you mentioned, Tom Green on the Weekend, thirty seven disposals,

647
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 6: but the quality just wasn't there. So efficiency is king

648
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 6: in super Coach. So ineffective disposals you get zero points

649
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 6: for that, Clanging disposals you get negative points for that,

650
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 6: and for all of the disposals that are effective, you

651
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 6: get positively rewarded for that.

652
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 5: And to answer one of the big questions out there

653
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 5: in the community, are disposals and possessions the same thing

654
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 5: or do they get scored separately.

655
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 6: No, So disposals and positions are two different stats. So

656
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 6: disposals is getting rid of the ball, and positions is

657
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 6: how you win the ball. So for example, if you

658
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 6: take an uncontested mark and then the siren goes in

659
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 6: the quarter ends, then you'll have one more position as

660
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 6: opposed to disposal because you don't get rid of the ball.

661
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 6: So they don't have to marry up, they don't have

662
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 6: to equal the same positions and disposals, and quite often

663
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 6: they are different.

664
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 5: And the supercoach rewards ways that you win the balls. Obviously,

665
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 5: we know contested positions score really well.

666
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, contested positions are worth you know, quite a bit

667
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 6: more points than uncontested positions, which is why if you

668
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 6: are looking at midfielders and guys that win a lot

669
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 6: of contested ball, generally they're going to be scoring better

670
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 6: than some of your more more outside players like Andrew

671
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 6: gaff in his day, you know, you'd accumulate thirty five

672
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 6: touches a game, but he was very outside a lot

673
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 6: of uncontested Marx handbell series, which is why he may

674
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 6: not have scored as well as so someone like a

675
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 6: Chris Judd who want a lot of his ball in

676
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 6: a contested manner.

677
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 7: What are some of the biggest misconceptions you hear and see,

678
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 7: you know about the super coach scoring? Obviously a lot

679
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 7: of people get in a very answer in their pants

680
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 7: about my player should have scored more or you know,

681
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 7: why are they know losing points on the bench. Are

682
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 7: there any really big misconceptions that kind of irk you

683
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 7: a little bit when when it comes to the scoring system.

684
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 6: I think the one that always gets asked on Twitter

685
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 6: is why did this player score more points than this

686
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 6: player in another game? And you can't compare one game

687
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 6: to another because they're two completely different games. There are

688
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 6: a lot of factors that go into scoring and if

689
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 6: you are going to compare, say one player to another,

690
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 6: it's going to be an apple with an apple or

691
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 6: a pair with a pair. So, for example, if we're

692
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 6: comparing scores from the Sydney and North Melbourne game compared

693
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 6: to the Bulldogs and Carlton game, the two completely different games.

694
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 6: One was close and one was a blowout. So yeah,

695
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 6: you can't really compare two class from two different games.

696
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then the scaling is obviously different for each

697
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 7: game as well, and that you've got the raw stats

698
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 7: that will come out and one game might have a

699
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 7: total of four hundred points and we're doing before you know,

700
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 7: a game might have three and fifty. And that scaling

701
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 7: happens right across the games. You can lose your game

702
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 7: points on a bench, or you can have a big

703
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 7: difference at the final siren.

704
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, it can, and I'll use that sort of I'll

705
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 6: use those two games as an example. So each game

706
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 6: has a match pressure factor, so this dictates how scoring goes.

707
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 6: The match pressure factor starts at one and then it

708
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 6: fluctuates up and down depending on you know, what the

709
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 6: margin is. So so that game between Carlton and the Bullogs,

710
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 6: it was a relatively close game and the match pressure

711
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 6: factor was probably about one point five to one point

712
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 6: six in that last quarter, and Sir Patrick Cripps comes

713
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 6: out because ten dispersals in that last quarter, kicks a

714
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 6: goal and scores forty five points, whereas someone like Harry

715
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 6: Sheesel in the Sydney North Melbourne game, he had twelve

716
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 6: disposals in that last quarter, but because that match pressure

717
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 6: factor was about zero point five, his stats weren't worth

718
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 6: as much. So he only scored sixteen points on the

719
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 6: weekend from twelfth disposals in that last quarter. So again,

720
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 6: even though I said before you shouldn't be comparing players

721
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 6: from two different games, but what I'm doing here is

722
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 6: showing you that the match pressure factor has a real

723
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 6: impact on what players score.

724
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 5: So what you want is your players to be impacting

725
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 5: the game when the margin is close and when the

726
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 5: game is decided. So in a match like that North

727
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 5: Swan's game that you're talking about that was early on

728
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 5: and everything after halftime, it wasn't worth as much, whereas

729
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 5: in a game that's really tight at the end with

730
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 5: you know, you know, you can get a two or

731
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 5: three really crucial touches and can be worth a lot

732
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 5: of points.

733
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, spot on elanor also probably to Gulden. So last

734
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 6: week against the Saints, I think at twenty disposals to

735
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 6: three quarter time and he was on target for a

736
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 6: really good score, but he only had one disposal in

737
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 6: that last quarter in a game that was really close,

738
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 6: and I think you finished on ninety. So it just

739
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 6: shows you it doesn't matter how well you perform. If

740
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 6: the game's really close, that's when you can get a

741
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 6: really good point boost if you do impact the game.

742
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 5: And I think Pats touched on it as well about

743
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,719
Speaker 5: scores can fluctuate up and down a bit, even if

744
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 5: you're sitting on the bench, or sometimes a player gets

745
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 5: injured and misses half the last quarter and their score

746
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 5: goes up, all goes down, and it's all that scaling

747
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 5: that you talk about, the three thy three hundred point

748
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 5: rule where every game has to be worth the same

749
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 5: number of points.

750
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 6: Yep, spot on. So I mean, I'll just use another example.

751
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 6: Let's just say Friday night, Nick Martin. He's on one

752
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 6: hundred points a three quarter time best player on the ground,

753
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 6: and then he gets injured and doesn't play the last quarter,

754
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 6: but he might end up on one hundred and ten points.

755
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 6: Because of the scaling, he's going to get rewarded accordingly

756
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 6: and have his scored gradually go up even though he's

757
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 6: on the bench.

758
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: You mentioned Chris Judd before Free Go, Yes, Chris Ud,

759
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm a man of Judd, a Judd man.

760
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: That's how I roll, That's how it operates. Do you

761
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: have a favorite player in the past, So someone who's

762
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: not playing right now, but one that you just have,

763
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: like a shining example as a Super Coach player that

764
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: just stands out to you in your brain.

765
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 6: I can answer that one by saying, Gary appla Junia

766
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 6: absolutely love courage.

767
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: I make it the non Garry Apple Junior divisions. Yeah,

768
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: the great.

769
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

770
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 6: Actually, I'll give you another one. Barry Hall in his

771
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 6: day was a pretty good scorer. So if you go

772
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 6: back ten fifteen years, the key forwards of the game

773
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 6: were really good in Super Coach. So he had Barry Hall, Heah,

774
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 6: Jonathan Brew and you had Warren tread Ray. These guys

775
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 6: were hitting one hundred and twenty points pretty much every week.

776
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 8: Also, Brent Staker, Yeah, I won't go to is that

777
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 8: has the scoring changed or has the game changed, and

778
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 8: that we don't see those regular Austion key forwards anymore.

779
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 6: I think the game has changed. So, I mean these days,

780
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 6: if you look at the spousals per game, they'd be

781
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 6: a lot higher now than they were ten to fifteen

782
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 6: years ago. But back then, the key forwards dominated, you know,

783
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 6: contested Marx. They were kicking lots of goals. You know,

784
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 6: the common medalists were generally nudging close to one hundred goals,

785
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 6: whereas now you know, it's what sixty seventy odd goals

786
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 6: at best. So there was a different game. The game

787
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 6: has changed over the years, and I guess super coach

788
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 6: scoring has reflected that.

789
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 7: Have you noticed much change over this season? We've spoken

790
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 7: a bit about players like Caleb sar Wrong and you know,

791
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 7: Matt Rowl who started the season really hot and have

792
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 7: now kind of dipped away. Has that been something that's

793
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 7: been you know a lot of midfielders have done that,

794
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 7: especially the last couple of weeks where all that captaincy

795
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 7: options have disappeared. Has it been there been a trend

796
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 7: towards like scoring in defense and is there a reason

797
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 7: for that?

798
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 8: You think?

799
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 7: Is it a like a gameplay thing, a stat's thing.

800
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 7: And this is the broadest question I could possibly ask you, basically,

801
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 7: why is my team bad?

802
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 8: Yeah?

803
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 6: Good question, Look at it's not so much a gameplay thing.

804
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 6: I think you had to look at each player individually.

805
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 6: So you mentioned Caleb Sarong. So the reason why Sarong

806
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 6: scored so well in the first ten rounds is he

807
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 6: was hitting the scoreboard. So in his first ten games

808
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 6: he had fifteen score assists, where since round eleven is

809
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 6: only had four. And the volume just isn't there either,

810
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 6: So he hasn't reached thirty disposals since round ten. I

811
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 6: think it was against Sin Killer. He's gone under every

812
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 6: game since. So it doesn't take much for scoring to

813
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 6: drop off. And if you are slightly down in say

814
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 6: three or four areas, then obviously your score is not

815
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 6: going to be as good, and we've seen that the

816
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 6: last few weeks with Sorong. I mean I picked up

817
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 6: Sarong probably at the worst possible time. I think I

818
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 6: got him around nine or round ten, And yeah, he

819
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 6: scores haven't been great over the last few weeks. And

820
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 6: you also mentioned someone like Luke Ryan, so it was

821
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 6: the first time this season that he hasn't had an

822
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 6: intercept possession Luke Ryan on the weekend, which I've just

823
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 6: looked up before. And his scores also have dried up,

824
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 6: and again it's accumulation. He was generally getting what twenty

825
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 6: five twenty six the sposals a game early on in

826
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 6: the year, but he's only gone over twenty twice since

827
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 6: round ten, and teams are putting a bit of time

828
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 6: into him as well, so on the weekend, I think

829
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 6: he had blake hard. We got him a few weeks ago.

830
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 6: He had been long. Now they're not tagging him, but

831
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 6: they're making him accountable, and he's not taking those easy

832
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 6: young contested marks as we've seen him take across the year.

833
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 5: You mentioned or past mentioned Maddie Row, and he seems

834
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 5: to be down just about every category you can imagine

835
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 5: with that be a fair assessment.

836
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 3: It is.

837
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 6: So at the start of the year he was winning

838
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 6: a lot of contested ball and his volume was high.

839
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 6: So he's winning high twenties, low thirties. And his tackling

840
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 6: has also dropped off over the last few weeks. So

841
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 6: if we think of that Row, we think of the

842
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 6: guy that goes in wins a hard ball, has those tackles,

843
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 6: but he hasn't been doing that as much. I think,

844
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 6: probably more so around the last six or seven weeks.

845
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 5: Anyway, one player that has dropped off more from last

846
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 5: year to this year that's a bit of a mystery

847
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 5: is Tim English. I mean, he's had some good games

848
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 5: but then some poor ones. Is there something you can

849
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 5: put your finger on to say what's going on with him?

850
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 6: Again? I'll use the word volving. Like last season, I

851
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 6: own English for most of the year and the one

852
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 6: thing he did was generally you know, nuge over twenty disposals.

853
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 6: But his ball winning hasn't been the same this year.

854
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 6: A slight drop off finished scoreboard impact his tackles and

855
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 6: also his effectiveness in and around RCK contest. So that's

856
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 6: probably the main thing with Tim Patch.

857
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just wanted to finish it up with just

858
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 7: a few kind of quicker fire questions, just you know,

859
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 7: very common themes. But do you guys have favorite players

860
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 7: that do you then give extra points to? You know,

861
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 7: just hit slide into the back end of the system.

862
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 7: You two points down in your league and he just

863
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 7: you know, up Zach Butter's by three points. Is that

864
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 7: Is that something you guys do?

865
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 4: No?

866
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 6: Definitely not. I mean we've got twelve people working on

867
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 6: every single game, so it's impossible sort of fudge the

868
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 6: numbers and give you a player extra points. But no,

869
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 6: definitely not. I mean I'll use Marcus Bonton Pelly as

870
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 6: an example there. He's probably the one we often get

871
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 6: a lot of questions about. And I think the reason

872
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 6: why Bonton pell is so good is he does a

873
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 6: lot of the things that go unnoticed. So I'll just

874
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 6: bring up two key stats here for him. Smothers is

875
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 6: one of them, so fully with the last three seasons,

876
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 6: he said more Smothers than any other player in the competition.

877
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,959
Speaker 6: And the other one is the contested knock on, which

878
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 6: is a really important stat as are all figure it's

879
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 6: worth four points. Over the last three is he's at

880
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 6: one hundred and three contested knock ons. The next best

881
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 6: is forty six, so he's had almost three times as

882
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 6: much as any other player. And I mean, you can

883
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 6: watch the game of footy and you can say, oh,

884
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 6: why is Bonton Pelly dominating? And as I said, he

885
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 6: does all these things that just go unnoticed to the

886
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 6: naked eye. Like I was watching the First Crack last

887
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 6: night and Joey Montagne had a bit of a thirty

888
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 6: six spill on this as to why he's such a

889
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 6: good player, and you just see the vision of it.

890
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 6: He does it all the time. Sometimes it pays off,

891
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 6: sometimes it doesn't. But he's always looking to move the

892
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 6: ball on and keep the game flowing.

893
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 7: And those condestined knock ons are like when you're not

894
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 7: actually taking the ball into possession but you're knocking it

895
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 7: to a teammate while it's in the pack.

896
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 5: Is that what that is?

897
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

898
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 6: Exactly, even if it's just a transition player, Like if

899
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 6: there's someone on him and he's knocking the ball and

900
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 6: someone like a Caleb Daniel comes through or a Jack mccrane,

901
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 6: they gather it and they have a disposal, then he

902
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 6: gets credited with a contested knock on. So sometimes they're

903
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 6: not as obvious as other times, but yeah, he's the

904
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 6: best player in the competent doing that.

905
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,479
Speaker 7: And my last one, do you have a favorite stat?

906
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 7: Like OL's discovered the ruck smash recently, which has kind

907
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 7: of blown his mind and he won't stop talking about it.

908
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 7: Do you have a favorite stat that might not be

909
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 7: as well known or is just a weird, quirky one

910
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 7: that comes up very infrequently that is just your favorite.

911
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 6: I think my favorite is the hit out to advantage

912
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 6: to a score assist. So if you've got a four

913
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 6: to fifty stoppage Mexico and taps it down to Petrarca

914
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 6: kicks a goal, so Gone in that situation will get

915
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 6: a hit out to advantage and you also get to

916
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 6: score assists. So for a ruck when that's probably the

917
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 6: most complete player you can have.

918
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 5: A new tweeted about another one on during the last week,

919
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 5: which and again with something I wasn't really across, which

920
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 5: is the rock hardball get, which is you see nank

921
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 5: and these guys do it quite a lot where they

922
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 5: actually just grab the ball out of the ruck. So, yeah,

923
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 5: there's all these different stats categories, are there. I mean

924
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 5: you sort of touched on a couple already of underrated stats.

925
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 5: Are there any that people will probably overrate when they're

926
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 5: watching the game, you.

927
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 2: Know, just on the TV or to the naked eye.

928
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not sure if they overright. I mean, every

929
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 6: stat's important, and I guess if you're watching a game

930
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 6: with football, whatever happens on the field, we have a

931
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 6: stat for it. For example, if you're running down the

932
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 6: wing and you're taking a bounce and then suddenly the

933
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 6: ball bounces in the wrong direction and the guys out

934
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 6: of bounds, then there's actually a stuff for that. It's

935
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 6: called the no pressure era, so you lose points from

936
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 6: your score for something like that. On the positive side,

937
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 6: we also have a start called the credit, so that's

938
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 6: just rewarding someone for doing something positive on the ground.

939
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 6: And an example of that is let's just say someone's

940
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 6: having a shot at goal and the defenders running back

941
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 6: with the flight of the ball and they just get

942
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 6: a little fingertip on it and it goes through for

943
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 6: a behind. Then that player will be given a credit

944
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 6: which is a positive start, so you get points award

945
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 6: for that.

946
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 7: So Google Howard last weekend running back and landing in

947
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 7: the cheer squad would have picked up a credit for that.

948
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, he would have because obviously touched the ball and

949
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 6: it was a rush behind, so there was no goal

950
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 6: to the Swan. So nice.

951
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 5: I mean, when we were just talking about before we

952
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 5: came on here was if I guess there's there's always

953
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 5: a tiny bit of subjectivity involved in the in the formula,

954
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 5: but as you say, you've got twelve people working on

955
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 5: it but judging when whether a kick is effective or ineffective.

956
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 5: And sometimes, you know, you might be watching your own

957
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 5: player and they kick it inside fifty and you think, oh,

958
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 5: this is great, they're going to get points, and then

959
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 5: before you drops the mark and you're like, oh that

960
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 5: you know it's just killed him. How do you account

961
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 5: for those sort of situations?

962
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, for those types of keys, especially for those long

963
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 6: inside fifty. I mean it's going to go to a

964
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 6: fifty to fifty contest or better for the team. So

965
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 6: it's got to be towards the team's advantage. If it

966
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 6: isn't towards a team's advantage, then it just gets deemed

967
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 6: an ineffective kick. And if you look at say accuracy

968
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 6: for example, if a player is having a shot at

969
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 6: goal from outside fifty and the ball falls short, then

970
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 6: they get an ineffective shot at goal, and as no,

971
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 6: ineffective kicks are worth worth zero points. So yeah, it's

972
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 6: going to be to the advantage of the team for

973
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 6: it to be effective.

974
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: I like this, we could call that the Sam Walsh

975
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: we go. So yeah he was good last week, Just

976
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: be fair.

977
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 7: So that kicks, then label is in effective. Even if

978
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 7: the teammate marks it next to the point post. He's

979
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 7: obviously not passing it. He's having a shot a goal.

980
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 7: He to the left, you know, ruckman's on the line

981
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 7: takes the mark. Does that then become an effective kick

982
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 7: because somebody else has done something good to rescue him

983
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 7: or is it still an effective kicks it's falling short now, it's.

984
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 6: Still in an effective kick. So if the player's intent

985
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 6: is to have a shot at goal, and I mean

986
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 6: a lot of the times you can sort of value

987
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 6: it either way, but we just go based on what

988
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 6: we see. So in that situation, it is an ineffective

989
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 6: shot of goal, so the player taking the mark. Obviously

990
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 6: the kick sorry to the player, won't be an assist

991
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 6: either if it's deemed an ineffective kick.

992
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 5: Well, but if you're trying to hit up beforeward and

993
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 5: you know they're on their own and it's the kick

994
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 5: is good, but the forward drops it, he penalized for that.

995
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 6: No, they're not. So if the kid is effective in

996
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 6: that situation and the teammate drops the mark, then the

997
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 6: teammate gets punished with a drop mark and you lose

998
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 6: points for that, But the player kicking to him doesn't

999
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 6: get punished for the drop mark. He still gets his

1000
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 6: effective kicks. Are you it's based on the outcome and

1001
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 6: not the result.

1002
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 2: Nice?

1003
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: This just gives you so much more like breadth than

1004
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: with to just start blaming everybody. It's like, this is great,

1005
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: I love it all right? Al anymore?

1006
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 5: No, I think that pretty much covers I mean, you

1007
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 5: touched on Petre already asked about favorite players over the years.

1008
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 5: I mean they have been the classic champion data style

1009
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 5: players like Tommy Rockcliffe was always a classic. Are there

1010
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 5: any at the moment coming through that you really enjoy

1011
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 5: watching and eye off to picking your team maybe this

1012
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 5: year or in the future years.

1013
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 6: I think Harley is the one is probably the one

1014
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 6: that comes to mind straight away, and we've seen him

1015
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 6: already this year have some big games, and as he

1016
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 6: gets more games under his belt, as he starts having

1017
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 6: more impact, I think we can We're going to probably

1018
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 6: be picking in from next year onwards. But I think

1019
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 6: he's probably the main one.

1020
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: Nice one Tom mkonik, I'm just saying, Tomonick, come on,

1021
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: it's playing solo Rock. We'll smash it out of the park.

1022
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: Can we just finish on that?

1023
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 5: Like what from a supercoach point of view, we just

1024
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 5: see Tom putting up these insane numbers. But then obviously

1025
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 5: it's a juggling act for Carl and whether they play

1026
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 5: one Rock or two Rucks. He's kind of a unique player,

1027
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 5: is any Tom. The way he scores as a ruckman.

1028
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 6: He is unique, and I think the one part of

1029
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 6: his game that deserves recognition is when he is rucking

1030
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 6: on his own. He wins a lot of contested ball.

1031
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 6: Like you mentioned the ruck hard ball get before, he

1032
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 6: does add a lot when he's rucking, and someone like

1033
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 6: I mean Lloyd Meek also does that quite a fair

1034
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 6: bit as well. But to Conning like his ability to

1035
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 6: sort of just impact the game around the ground. He's

1036
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 6: obviously a key strength. And yeah, if he's playing in

1037
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 6: that right position, he does give Carlton first use quite

1038
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 6: often as well, because his tap work probably doesn't get

1039
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 6: the recognition either. So I think it was last year

1040
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 6: I looked at him as a ruckman. I think he

1041
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 6: was a second bounce, second best hit out to advantage

1042
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 6: ruckman in the comp. It's in a bouncer, so that's

1043
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 6: another part of his game. He is quite good at.

1044
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 7: Nice hard looking at him and going, this is what

1045
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 7: I want Luke Jackson to be. Luke playing the rock.

1046
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 6: More but well, as long as Sean Darce is not playing,

1047
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 6: Luke Jackson will score well because his scores are really

1048
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 6: good when Darcer doesn't play. But insane that Dice will

1049
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 6: come back into the team this week after his week out.

1050
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 7: Not unless I get to Fremantle first with a crow bar.

1051
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to save the season somehow patch I like

1052
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: this all right, here's a freak. Thank you for jumping

1053
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: over with this, Fantasy Freako. This has been awesome and

1054
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: very illuminating for a more unlike me just sitting here

1055
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: going I don't know what is going on, but this

1056
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: is awesome, So thanks for jumping on.

1057
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 2: Thank you, Freko Nara's thanks for having me?

1058
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 3: All right?

1059
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: How good was that chat with the fantasy Freako? Al

1060
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: he is a weapon. I love to have that chat.

1061
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: It's always good, always insightful.

1062
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just I think it helps you just

1063
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 5: understand where the points are coming from each weekend, and

1064
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 5: obviously they can only benefit in terms of deciding which

1065
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 5: plays you in your team.

1066
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: That's all right. Bloke who's taken the bit of time

1067
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: off a pretty crucial part of the season.

1068
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: Really interesting.

1069
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: It's not that bad, I guess because the fandom usually

1070
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: swings by the talk bubble boys and he's not going

1071
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: to do it because he's on leave. Just slacking off,

1072
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: as simple as that. So let's talk some bubble boys

1073
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: either way. Zane true interesting vibes here. He was awesome,

1074
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: he was gunning it right. So what did he score

1075
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: ninety four on the weekend break even now with minus

1076
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 1: thirty six out, what do we think about Zaye True.

1077
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 5: I mean, the fandom was telling us and then he

1078
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 5: decided to just not even bother calling in. But that

1079
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 5: you know, we don't really need bubble boys at this

1080
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 5: stage of the year in terms of how much money

1081
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 5: they're going to make. It doesn't really matter. But he

1082
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 5: is the most traded in player at this early stage

1083
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 5: of the week. Zane True from the Eagles, as you say,

1084
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 5: ninety four points, twenty one disposals, eight tackles on the weekend.

1085
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 5: That was his second game. His first game was back

1086
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 5: in round twelve and he didn't score very well in

1087
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 5: that match. But I guess maybe he's part of the

1088
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 5: new look midfield under Jared Schofield over there. He had

1089
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 5: fifteen center bounces one hundred and thirty eight K. He's

1090
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 5: mid only though. I think ideally you'd want to bring

1091
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 5: in a DPP if you could. So there's a couple

1092
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 5: of other guys on the bubble in, you know, if

1093
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 5: you really needed one. Joe Fonti at GWS, he's a

1094
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 5: defender one seventeen K. Yeah, there's not much else around,

1095
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 5: but I think this stage of the year the other

1096
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 5: thing he could seriously entertain. He's bringing in a floating donut,

1097
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 5: which is a guy who you don't expect to play,

1098
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 5: but they're as cheap as you can possibly get, and

1099
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 5: hopefully they play later in the round so you can

1100
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 5: use them to loop for captains and get scores off

1101
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 5: the bench and also yet to flip players between lines.

1102
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 5: And probably the standout there is Locke Rawlinson at the Eagles.

1103
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 5: He's a small forward. Looked up his VFL waffle numbers

1104
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 5: and he's sort of scoring fifties and sixties most weeks.

1105
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 5: You might get to go with some stage, but chances

1106
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 5: are he probably won't, but yeah, he could be handy.

1107
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 5: And we know sad L Hawley at the Bombers. A

1108
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 5: few people have brought him in just for that deaf

1109
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 5: mid link at one O two k, So those are

1110
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 5: some options.

1111
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 2: But yeah, Zane True is probably the number one rookie

1112
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: of the week if you're looking to bring one in.

1113
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially if he's stayed in the midfield. He looked good,

1114
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 4: but he might score, might be a bit up and down.

1115
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: I just want to get an honorable mention to my

1116
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: beloved Sean Manor we haven't talked about it. Sean Manor

1117
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: from Heaven has just come out of absolutely nowhere. He's

1118
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: been on my bench all season. That's amazing timing for

1119
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: him to come in. I've loved every second of this

1120
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: last two weeks because he's ripped off one hundred and

1121
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: eighteen and seventy five so he's in a fourth game,

1122
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 1: so he has gone up to two hundred and forty

1123
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: six thousand dollars out of absolutely nowhere having only played

1124
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: round one, Round two, Round seventeen and eighteen.

1125
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: Incredible.

1126
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 3: He looks so nervous at the start level, so he

1127
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: just he just built into it.

1128
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: This is great mature age. Ricky from Wherriby out there sackles.

1129
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: He's got that mid forward swing as well, so it's perfect, awesome,

1130
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: loving short manner. So I think he ended up on

1131
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:46,959
Speaker 1: field for me this week as well. With the HENI

1132
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: we've been worked out pretty well. So happy days there, right,

1133
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: quick fire round, gentlemen, strap in. What score would you

1134
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: take from Billy Dowling this week to bench?

1135
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 3: Matt row Al?

1136
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, this is talking about using those zeros on

1137
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: the bench.

1138
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 5: You got someone like Billy Dowly playing on the Friday

1139
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 5: night I could put the emergency on him, and if

1140
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 5: he scores well, I could flip a zero onto the

1141
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 5: field and take someone off the field. In this case,

1142
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 5: if I still have him, the obvious candidate would be

1143
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 5: rou So the question would be how many points would

1144
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 5: you need from Dowling? If he scores another one hundred

1145
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 5: and two or whatever he got on the weekend, you

1146
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 5: take that. What if he scored eighty five or seventy five?

1147
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: I don't know why. In my head, I've just got

1148
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 3: seventy eight. I don't know, Matt Rowe, maybe eighty.

1149
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 4: Maybe it's eighty on the dot because row was he

1150
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 4: I think the last six weeks eighty two and under

1151
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 4: h yeah like that. Yeah, so maybe it's maybe it's

1152
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 4: that eighty two because he hasn't got over that mark. Probably,

1153
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 4: I'd probably say and gold.

1154
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 1: Ghost on the road as well.

1155
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 5: So it's just like even lost his center bounces on

1156
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 5: the weekend Roo. So if he's not getting those, I

1157
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 5: don't know how else he's going to score points?

1158
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: All right, flip side laws and Humphries. What's the score

1159
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: you're going to take to loop out? Clayton Oliver. Yeah,

1160
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: that's just saying because you have the Cat's playing on

1161
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: Saturday night against the Dogs GM HbA, and then you

1162
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: have Melbourne playing out up the stadium on Sunday afternoon.

1163
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 3: Look really good, So I'd be saying ninety. That's what

1164
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 3: I think.

1165
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 5: This is where can get messy because I know some

1166
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 5: people who did this on the weekend with Laws and Humphries,

1167
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 5: and they took that score, and they took Dan Houston

1168
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 5: off because he's been bit down like and then he

1169
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 5: had about one hundred and five points a three quarter

1170
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 5: a time, and I was thinking, this is the worst

1171
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 5: thing I've ever done. And then Houston hardly scored in

1172
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 5: the last quarter so worked out. I think they lost

1173
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 5: maybe five points. But it can be as stressful exercise.

1174
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 5: It can gain your points, but yeah, it can blow

1175
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 5: up as well. But I mean, if you scored one

1176
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 5: hundred and eight again, I'd take that.

1177
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I love the I've got the floating doughnut

1178
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: in the midfield of Hugo Garcia by saying still so

1179
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: he he hasn't been trained out yet, you know he's

1180
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 1: on watch, just saying but just keep keeping.

1181
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 2: Sometimes they can be handed to keep them.

1182
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 3: For this.

1183
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: Tom Green disposals versus his score this week. Are we

1184
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: feeling is he going to score more than his disposals?

1185
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you're big on this. How many disposals does

1186
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: he need to correct?

1187
00:50:55,520 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: The tone? Seventy two? I even during the season he

1188
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 3: was pretty efficient.

1189
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 4: I think even if he gets sixty seventy percent, which

1190
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 4: isn't amazing, he's still going to get over that one

1191
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 4: hundred and ten hundred and fifteen. So I'm backing him

1192
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 4: in this week thirty plus. By that, that's seventy percent

1193
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 4: spose efficiency he's been. He'd be watching the show, would

1194
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 4: be like, I need a lift for the boys.

1195
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 3: I think like that. I think you'll go all right

1196
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: this week.

1197
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 1: He had one hundred and nine against Gold Coast earlier

1198
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: this season.

1199
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and one hundred and sixty I think the time

1200
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 3: before or something like that.

1201
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: Are we playing Philipoo on the field now?

1202
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1203
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 5: Well this is I thought just because a lot of

1204
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 5: people played him. Who brought him in this week because

1205
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 5: you had to? But now you get any back and

1206
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 5: it maybe defends with that with gone these kinds of things,

1207
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 5: maybe that pushes him back to your bench. But is

1208
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 5: he too good for the bench? But it depends on

1209
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 5: when did the Saints play, we might try and loop

1210
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 5: him on him because he could take off the loops,

1211
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 5: take off a Kern or someone like that.

1212
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, they played really earlier. That's the first Saturday game,

1213
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: so they played the West Coast Eagles surday. So you've

1214
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: only got going to swap cord well or yeah, but

1215
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: at least you do you can at least get a

1216
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: look at him if you want to, you know, have

1217
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: the e on him. At least go to the loop.

1218
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: So I don't mind that, don't mind that at all.

1219
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: And would you play Humphreys on the field. We sort

1220
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: of hit on this.

1221
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 4: I genuinely think you can get another hundred just the

1222
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 4: way his role is perfect for super Coach at home

1223
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 4: again the Dogs as well.

1224
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 3: Maybe another emergency loop because.

1225
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 2: It might be the safer way to do it.

1226
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 5: But yeah, especially if you had like if I had him,

1227
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 5: I would be feeling so much more comfortable about just

1228
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 5: hanging on to McGovern for another week two or whatever,

1229
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 5: because yeah, he's just perfect covers. It's worked out fantastic

1230
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 5: if you've got him or you know a manner who

1231
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 5: you can just bring on. I mean, Dowling was great

1232
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 5: on the weekend. Least I've got him, but I don't

1233
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:34,959
Speaker 5: know the other guys.

1234
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: Nice one. I'm both feeling great for the first time

1235
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: all year. This is awesome as long as Krooki keeps

1236
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: playing as well. I go coverage on each line. Last one,

1237
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: What does Luke Jackson score with Sean Darcy back against

1238
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: Melbourne who could be without good What do we think?

1239
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: That's what the revenge?

1240
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 3: Super revenge? I don't mind him for a big one.

1241
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 3: I won't say over.

1242
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 4: I'm going to say ninety five, which you'll probably still

1243
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 4: take in your forward line with not too many gun forwards.

1244
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go ninety five.

1245
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 4: I think Sean Darcy back is going to get him

1246
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 4: up to that one ten, but he can still score it, right,

1247
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 4: especially with no Gorne. They don't have a ruckman really,

1248
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 4: Petty is not a ruck so I don't know unless

1249
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 4: they will they bring in thoughts and or something like that,

1250
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 4: possibly because they need like, how are their rucks going

1251
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 4: to go again?

1252
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 3: Shawn Darson and Luke Jackson. That's what I'm just confused

1253
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 3: about it.

1254
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 5: I mean, no, it's got Dustie now surely, but he

1255
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 5: could beg him in for about one hundred yeah, one.

1256
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: Hundred and sixteen for Luke Jackson. Last week looked awesome

1257
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: and a loss down there in Tazzy. I love him

1258
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: for this week. I think you think about absolutely Ham

1259
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: and I think they smash Melbourne again.

1260
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 3: They're at home at home as well.

1261
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: He can kick four goals. Let's go Luke Jackson.

1262
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, rubn.

1263
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: Right, captain's cool for this week ahead. Mine is very

1264
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: very straightforward. I think Butters is the pick for me

1265
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,919
Speaker 1: for Port up against the Tigers on Saturday evening at home.

1266
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: You know that Port just sort of clinging onto the

1267
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: eighth with their fingertips, Richmond getting trounced royally week in

1268
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: week out.

1269
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: They won the inside fifties yesterday.

1270
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 3: Played small wins. Yeah, they actually played.

1271
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 2: Well just yeah, it's probably not idea.

1272
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 5: I think Giants had about thirty something inside fifties and

1273
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 5: still scored will over rounded. So some defensive issues there,

1274
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 5: but there's fighting some small wins.

1275
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: So Butter's running rampant. Sort of feels like my vibe.

1276
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: He does love playing the Tigers VC on Saturday. Stats

1277
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: but I think you brought up his last two games

1278
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: against him.

1279
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's why I'm going to put him as captain.

1280
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 4: I'm not even just tempted to just put captain, not

1281
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 4: even worry about it us. He's got one seventy five

1282
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 4: and a one fifty eight last two year.

1283
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 3: Not bad.

1284
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: My c would then probably go to Sarong against the

1285
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: D's on Sunday afternoon. I don't really want any bar

1286
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: of the Sydney Lions game. I think that's two really

1287
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 1: really good teams and it feels like just a bit

1288
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: of a roll of the dice. Is it going to

1289
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: be a Neil game? Is it a Golden game? Because

1290
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: Good's been fantastic one forty two this week was unreal.

1291
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: Outside of that, even the Blues against North. I think

1292
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: North to coppying an absolute beating at the hands of

1293
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: Sydney last week. Carlton will be out for a bit

1294
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: of you know, blood after losing back to back games

1295
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: as well, but North will probably play them tough. It's

1296
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: like a weird late to sit.

1297
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 5: Sunday Tim and it as Charlie Kurno kick aufter three

1298
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 5: seven on the weekend.

1299
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 3: He'll kick at least four or five.

1300
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: But I think I'll go so wrong with the Sea

1301
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 1: up against the D's because I think that'll be a

1302
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: bit more free flowing, and I think he's sort of

1303
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: at this point where obviously we've seen some of his

1304
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: scores at home this year, he's dropped off dramatic the

1305
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: last like two months. You might just look back and go, hey,

1306
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: when did Jim bring him in? That's when he got

1307
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: the way we go. But I'm probably just going to

1308
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: try a bank on Butters with the VCL vibes.

1309
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, just I mean, Butters is a clear standard for me.

1310
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 5: I don't think I've got anyone that I love after

1311
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 5: that on the Sunday. I mean, I don't think we

1312
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 5: can really trust wrong maybe or Luke Ryan. They're just

1313
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 5: sort of more than ninety five too hundred now at

1314
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 5: the moment. So with the Captaincy, I mean Walsh against

1315
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 5: North maybe, but he's pretty He's been up and down

1316
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 5: and depends if maybe Will Phillips didn't play the weekend,

1317
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 5: so there's no Tagger so that would help. But yeah,

1318
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 5: looking at who plays earlier, I mean the bond always

1319
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 5: you have to consider. But he plays at the same

1320
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 5: time as Butters. I mean, we're just not even talking

1321
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 5: about Nick Dacos anymore. The super Coach plus projection doesn't

1322
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 5: like him against Hawthorne at all. This is sort of

1323
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 5: the replay of the game last year where he was

1324
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 5: absolutely trounced by Finn McGinnis. But he's not playing at

1325
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 5: the moment for the Hawk, so maybe.

1326
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 3: Take a risk on Caldwell possibly Friday night. I'm just taking.

1327
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, sorry about Zach Merritt, I mean well yeah, yeah,

1328
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 5: really hot and cold last couple of weeks, So there's

1329
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 5: a few like that that. Yeah, in merit one I

1330
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 5: would consider definitely for the VC and then yeah, Butters

1331
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 5: is a pretty safe backup.

1332
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: I think this is the wrong One's a fascinating case

1333
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: as well. He's down to five hundred and twenty seven.

1334
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was flying in the middle eighty five, eighty.

1335
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: Four, ninety nine in the last three weeks, but earlier

1336
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: in the season at home he had one hundred and

1337
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: seventy against the Lions, he had one hundred and twenty

1338
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: five against the chrom h one hundred and seventeen against

1339
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 1: the Eagles, one forty against the Dogs, one fifty against

1340
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: the Swans that is absolutely insane, and then ninety one

1341
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 1: against the Pies. He had in that Traker Park game

1342
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: in Alice against Melbourne where they absolutely killed them. He

1343
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: only had one hundred and two, and it's sort of

1344
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: like from then on he had one hundred and twenty

1345
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: one home against the Suns again. So I'm just hoping

1346
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: that roll the dice at home, sorongos off U nice

1347
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: one head to head, let's do it, al it's a

1348
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: game of names. It's a name game.

1349
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 5: Well, I think that we last week's got scrubbed from

1350
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 5: the record, didn't it, So there's no There was no

1351
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 5: tape exactly, so I don't know what happened last week.

1352
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: We actually forgot to write down what we had gone

1353
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: head to head in so we had to check the tape,

1354
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: and the tape proved me very right. This is great YouTube.

1355
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm listening to it like it's all over. I think

1356
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: al went we went. We stuck with the insanely fun

1357
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: North Sydney game Super Coach game basically, which it was

1358
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: if you had a heap of Sydney playing exactly. So

1359
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: Chundley Water, my beloved Chad Chunley Warner absolutely crushed it.

1360
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: Could kick six goals. I reckon in that game as well.

1361
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, She's all did not have a great one.

1362
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: Al So it might have been like a what's that

1363
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: a fifty five point difference.

1364
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very stiff.

1365
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: She's been great and this week we've talked about them

1366
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: as well, So this week we're going to go ahead

1367
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: to head. Was the on field rookie. So if you

1368
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: have to get one of these guys on the field,

1369
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: which one would you rather. I've gone with Wawson Humphries

1370
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: because I have Lawson Humphries and al you have Billy Dowling.

1371
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do have Billy Dewi in my team, and

1372
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 5: as I said, I will be at least putting the

1373
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 5: emergency on him on Friday night, so hopefully he can

1374
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 5: pull out another big scores a real last quarter specialist,

1375
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 5: it's too kicking big goals in sort of close games

1376
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 5: and boosting his score that way. He was great on

1377
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 5: Saturday night, so hopefully he can pull out another big

1378
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 5: one last one.

1379
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: I just trust Lawson and Humphries down at GM HbA.

1380
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Dog's role, yea, his role. He'll love

1381
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: it down there. He'll be fantastic again. And hopefully I'll

1382
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: just try to loop him obviously as well if he

1383
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: does do very well, because I think at the moment

1384
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: fingers crossed, I don't need him on field.

1385
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 3: So as long as well.

1386
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 4: Their game plan last week was literally just to chip

1387
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 4: it around and every second ball was gone to him,

1388
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 4: so hopefully that happens again.

1389
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 5: Nice friend Dan Baton, who has done a great read

1390
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 5: on Laws and Humphreys again and check his Twitter for

1391
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 5: the geelong Eddie Butye. I think he was playing waffle

1392
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 5: reserves twelve months ago and another genius recruiting move by

1393
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 5: the Cats. They pull his off all the time.

1394
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 4: Nowhere like they was like Tom Stewart obviously one of

1395
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 4: the best Cats plays of all time.

1396
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 3: I was just playing, like, yeah, as well, what how

1397
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 3: they do that?

1398
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: I love it. They're just like, we'll just get every

1399
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: dude who looks like a carpenter surfer.

1400
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:37,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, it works.

1401
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: Lock it in Monday moves before we go. What is

1402
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: your Monday trade? I have two remaining trades, so unless

1403
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: I'm forced to, I will not be using anything this week.

1404
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 5: Al I have four, so I can use one or two.

1405
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 5: And I had this line up all weekend. I thought

1406
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 5: Joie Clark's just been sitting there. He's made as much

1407
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 5: money as he's going to make. I'll trade him down

1408
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 5: to Lawson and Hum and I'll have to pay more

1409
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 5: than if I'd got him last week or the week before,

1410
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 5: and I should have got him, But that'll still give

1411
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 5: me that nice defense mid swing. We know how well

1412
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 5: he's been scoring, and then I should have enough left over.

1413
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 5: If Fisher doesn't play, I could turn Fisher into Caldwell,

1414
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 5: another move I should have made a couple of weeks ago.

1415
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 5: But the prices are all going in the wrong direction. Yeah,

1416
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 5: Humphrey's going up ninety grand in one week, and I'm

1417
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 5: out by about two thousand dollars making that move.

1418
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 3: So can you put your own money in? There's a

1419
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 3: lot of money for a lot of Humphries, but he's

1420
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 3: pretty good.

1421
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 5: I have to consider that. But yeah, so I'm not

1422
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 5: really sure, and it much depend if McGovern's still out.

1423
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 5: There's a few variables going on and Fish. Hopefully he

1424
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 5: comes back. That might save me, but I reckon he will.

1425
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 5: I mean, the other option would just be to trade

1426
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 5: Matt Rowl, just get rid of him, just trade him

1427
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 5: straight for the loss in Humphries.

1428
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 3: Oh that's not about shoot.

1429
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 5: I mean I would have to play Humphries or maybe

1430
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 5: like ald loop him with a Billy Dowling or something

1431
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 5: like that. But I mean, that's not I'm not losing

1432
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 5: points doing that the way Many Rail's going, and that

1433
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 5: would free up heap of cash and I could turn

1434
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 5: Fisher into Corbelo whoever I wanted, So that would be

1435
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 5: a bit of an extreme move. But I don't think

1436
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 5: I can sit and watch Many another week. It's just

1437
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 5: absolutely killed me. So nice it's on the cards, all right, stats.

1438
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 3: Boy, Yeah, I'm going to go. I still got Kruger.

1439
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 3: I'm going to send him out.

1440
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 4: I've got Josh Draper, which is a weird one, but

1441
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 4: he's got two seventies and one hundred and eleven in

1442
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 4: the last five weeks out of nowhere, so you just

1443
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 4: rocking it up. I had him on my bench and

1444
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 4: I was like, it's not making any money. He was

1445
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 4: stuck on about one seventy k. He's up to threndred

1446
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 4: and three thousand now, so I can trade him out.

1447
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 4: Made a little bit of money the other week. So

1448
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 4: I'm going to try and trade out Josh Draper and

1449
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 4: Krueger lock Rowlinson. As I'll just mentioned before, he can

1450
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 4: just be that what is it they?

1451
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 3: I forgot what it's called.

1452
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 4: And then I've still got a way up between Luke

1453
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 4: Jackson or Charlie kern On he to finish off my

1454
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 4: forward line. I think I'm leaning towards Luke Jackson because

1455
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 4: I've been disappointed with Charlie Kerner lately. But he could

1456
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 4: get a massive score this week. But I think I'm

1457
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 4: going to lean towards Luke Jackson. I think for the

1458
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 4: rest of the year is going to be more consistent.

1459
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 5: And just does give you that insurance in the rack

1460
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 5: if you need it, which has obviously been brilliant the

1461
01:01:58,600 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 5: last couple of weeks.

1462
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 1: It's definitely saved me the last couple of weeks of

1463
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: keeping Luke Jackson just sort of sitting there, being able

1464
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: to swing him forward, back into the ruck, forward, back

1465
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: into the ruck.

1466
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 3: He could really well, as you mentioned against the d

1467
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 3: so I'm happy with that.

1468
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: Against the Ruse. Charlie Dang is the Ruse with ten goals,

1469
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: and but Jackson could kick for love that good times,

1470
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: great memories. Hopefully Carlton just win. All Right, that's it

1471
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: for the round nineteen preview, Jess. Not too many rounds

1472
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: left here, al what's going on? Jeez? Anyway, remember to

1473
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,560
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1480
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1481
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 1: But as usual thanks to Al did a great job.

1482
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 2: Thanks you have to maybe plan another hike for this

1483
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 2: weekend just to just.

1484
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: Decompress exactly the way we go. Thanks to Fantasy Freak

1485
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: over jumping on as well, and thanks to the stats Boy.

1486
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, good to be good to be back on.

1487
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: It was good fun in off the bench like He's

1488
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: lawso and Humphries, I've been James Clements, have a great

1489
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: round nineteen and have you super coaching