1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Let's meet Rector Mickey Mantle from Saint Thomas's Anglican Church 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: in Sydney, and he's on the line. Rector. Now do 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: I call you Rector Mantle? Rector Mickey, good morning to you. 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: Well you call me Mickey if you're my friend, and 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: Rector if you don't like me. 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's go with Micky. I'll be your friend. 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: So how exciting You've met the King and Queen and 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: presented them with a gift. What was the experience like? 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: Firstly, yeah, it was fantastic. We had a full church. 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 2: It was a real privilege to have the King and 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: the Queen there. We as Christians pray for the King, 12 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: pray for his physical health, pray for his spiritual health, 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: and so it was really huge privilege to have him 14 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: and the Queen with us. We were thrilled. My children 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: gave them gifts for their grandchildren a wallaby rugby ball, 16 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: a kookobar cricket ball, a book about their great grandmother, 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: the queen and her faith in Christ. So it was 18 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: it was great. 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you talk about praying for his physical health, how 20 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: did he seem given you know, the cancer diagnosis and 21 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: pretty gutsy to come to Australia given that. 22 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a real He's a real man of steal, 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: isn't he. The these royal rules, they're tough, they keep 24 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 2: on turning up and they are servant leaders. I think 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: his mother really set the example. She was a clear Christian. 26 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: She saw the example of class as a servant monarch, 27 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: and he's following the same van. He looked weary, to 28 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: be totally honest, A little bit, well, let me put 29 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: that he he was tired after jet LaGG as he 30 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: might be, but I think looked in good health. 31 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good, that's positive and tremendous reception. As you say, 32 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: the photo on the front page of the Australian today, 33 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: the kids, I don't know of any of those are yours, 34 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,919 Speaker 1: but kids in the front welcoming them as they arrived. 35 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: I imagine that's you walking alongside them. And a pretty 36 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: momentous occasion. 37 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: Yes it was actually archbishop alongside. I was at the front, 38 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: but leaving the service. But it was a real momentous occation, 39 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: and we as a church will hold a deer and 40 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: special in our in our history. We have a connection 41 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: with the church. His great grandfather in eighteen eighty one 42 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: laid the foundation stone the man who became George the 43 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: Fifth when he was a teenager on a world tour. 44 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 2: So this is the next chapter for us, and will 45 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: let it be remembering it. Were able to give him 46 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 2: a gift as well, which I hope you'll read. I 47 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: don't know if you know. Arthur states, mister eternity, that 48 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: copper play writing eternity that was on Oh yes, yeah, 49 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: he was that that word that appeared at them. Yeah. 50 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 2: He chalked all around Sydney. The story is he was 51 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: a I suppose a vagabond. He was a drunk, he 52 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: was a criminal. He went to St. Barmbas Broadway and 53 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: the Gospel of Christ, the forgiveness of sins, and his 54 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 2: life was changed fromatically. He was an illiterate, so he 55 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: wanted to shout out eternity, but Christ off as eternity 56 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: for anyone who will receive it. But he couldn't. He 57 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 2: couldn't write books for to go out because he's a literate. 58 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: But what he could do was to chalk the word 59 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 2: eternity to prick people's consciences and to lift their eyes. 60 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: And he did it all over the Cidy. He became 61 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 2: an icon. And the interesting fact is that the author 62 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: of the definitive book on mister states Arthur Stace, he 63 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: is a guy called Roy Williams, and he comes to 64 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: our church. And so Roy was able to inscribe a 65 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: message to the King to help him and encourage him 66 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 2: as he looks to eternity and to yeah, make that connection. Interestingly, 67 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: Arthur Stace's I think it's great great grandfather was chaplain 68 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: to Queen Victoria. Really, so there's another nice link there. 69 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: How about that? And the word eternity just in the 70 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: most beautiful cursive writing. 71 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely perfect copper place. This man, who's a deliterate, nevertheless, 72 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: could write that word and it's become a Sydney icon. 73 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: There he printed for us to remember that though we've 74 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: got this absolutely christine, beautiful city, eternity lies before us 75 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: and we've got to consider the offer of Christ for 76 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: eternal life to those who will receive it. 77 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: Tell me leading a church service with the King and 78 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: Queen present, any nerves involved in that more than usual? Perhaps, Listen. 79 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: I don't want to be funny about it, but not 80 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: really honest, because there was a lot of preparation. It 81 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: was all fairly straightforward, but though we want to honor 82 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,679 Speaker 2: the King, absolutely, we've got to remember I was still church. 83 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: I wanted it to be a real church for us 84 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: as a church family. We kept to the same passage 85 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: that we were preaching on in Acts, and we kept 86 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: on doing our normal things in a sense, and I 87 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 2: tried not really to worry too much about the King's 88 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: presence and preach and teach. Rather so not preacher, I 89 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: speak and lead my congregation in the hearing of the King, 90 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: who needs the King of Kings as much as anyone, 91 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 2: and it was a privilege. But it's important not to 92 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: be overawed by these things, because I don't think that 93 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: would be honoring the King. He wouldn't want us to 94 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: treat him like some aliens. He's a real human being, 95 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: blessing blood. He's a man who's facing facing the trials 96 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: that we face with the health issue and all sorts 97 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: of things. Of course I don't want to go into 98 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: but he's had troubles with his is his own experience 99 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: and family life. He's like us in some ways, and 100 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: so we're all humbled to the same level really before 101 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: the Lord. And that's the great thing about the King 102 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: of England and his mother they are people who really 103 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: hear the gospel, the offer of class all the time. 104 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: They've got hundreds of thousands of people, maybe millions praying 105 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: for them the Younger Prayer Book. So it's a special 106 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: experience for us to have him join us, to hear 107 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 2: God's word, to encourage each other to sing him of truth. 108 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: Great for us. 109 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: I wonder you gave him kangaroo jerky. I understand that's was. 110 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: It us, That was somebody else. No, we gave him 111 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 2: Wallaby rugby ball to the boys and cricket cricket ball. 112 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: That might made mind you because the Charlotte might be 113 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: into that too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, might have become a brickler. 114 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: And we gave this book about the Queen their great grandmother, 115 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: and the book about Arthur Space and the connection with 116 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: great great grandfather was the chaplain to Queen Victoria. There's 117 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: links for us. 118 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: Indeed, I just wonder how the jerky would go with 119 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: his doctor's orders. But perhaps Queen Camilla could enjoy that. 120 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: But part of the carnival died. It's probably very good 121 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: for you. 122 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably absolutely right. Look great meeting you this morning, 123 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: Thank you for your time, and what a wonderful day. 124 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: To celebrate and remember. 125 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: Thanks so much, it's been a privileged to be on 126 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: the line. 127 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: Director. 128 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: Come and come and visit us and Thomas's North Sydney 129 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: if you're in Sydney. 130 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: I will do indeed, thank you for the invitation. I'll 131 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: look you up. Rictor Mickey Mantle from Saint Thomas's in Sydney, 132 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: where the King and Queen went to morning church service 133 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: yesterday Saint Thomas's Anglican Church in Sydney and were presented 134 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: with a number of items there