Speaker 1: Why on Sky News this is Sharry Good Evening tonight.
Speaker 2: Gas lighting on a national scale exposed. What did the
Speaker 2: Albanezy government downplay the state of anti Semitic violence for
Speaker 2: election purposes? My thoughts in a moment, and I'll speak
Speaker 2: with Alex Rifchin also in the show. Over one million
Speaker 2: dollars of taxpayer funds wasted on decolonizing breastfeeding Australia's next
Speaker 2: potential doge Jacenta nambajimper Price would join me to on
Speaker 2: earth this absurd spending and Albanezi accused of hypocrisy over
Speaker 2: a one hundred thousand dollars dinner with super donors at
Speaker 2: Aria or the details in a moment.
Speaker 1: Well, it was a.
Speaker 2: Week ago today that police stood up at a press
Speaker 2: conference and claimed that a spate of anti Semitic attacks
Speaker 2: was not in fact anti Semitism. They told Australia this
Speaker 2: Vilellan spree was the work of organized crime and not
Speaker 2: driven by an ideological hatred for Jews. Well, these inaccurate
Speaker 2: claims have now landed police in hot water, and there
Speaker 2: are questions about whether there was any political pressure to
Speaker 2: downplay this crisis, because it's now emerged that the figure
Speaker 2: reportedly behind this spate of attacks is sayet Erhan Akka,
Speaker 2: who has praised Hitler, questioned the existence of the Holocaust
Speaker 2: and said that Zionists were at the root of terrorism.
Speaker 1: Yes, Zionists.
Speaker 2: The Daily Telegraph reports he was arrested in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: one with trying to import a commercial quantity of drugs.
Speaker 2: If found guilty, they say Aka could be facing life
Speaker 2: in jail, but he fled while on bail and a
Speaker 2: warrant for his arrest was issued in September twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: and according to The Telly, he's been traveling between Asia
Speaker 2: and Turkey ever since.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: As you know, police claimed that anti Semitism wasn't a motivation,
Speaker 2: that it was simply to get a more lenient sentence.
Speaker 2: Yet major revelations in The Australian over the past few
Speaker 2: days that Akka, who is Muslim, has a history of
Speaker 2: making extremely anti Semitic remarks. The OSRA ports that in
Speaker 2: one post, Aka claims that Hitler was only washing earth
Speaker 2: they made him out to be evil. On Facebook, one
Speaker 2: of Aka's Facebook friends named Ronnie, posted a picture of
Speaker 2: the Nazi manifesto. You can see that here with the
Speaker 2: words arians assemble and that was the caption, and then
Speaker 2: underneath it, Aka wrote rise of the Fifth riche Hail Ronnie.
Speaker 2: In another comment that I found when I was looking
Speaker 2: through his social media last night, Aka wrote, getting ready
Speaker 2: for the Arab an Aryan Alliance. The depression is coming, brother,
Speaker 2: the Arab an Aryan Alliance.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Aka's comment was in response to a post about a
Speaker 2: German fire right party becoming the second strongest party at
Speaker 2: the time. Now The Australian reports that separately, Aka posted
Speaker 2: I ain't racist, I have a jew disorder and in
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, Aka wrote on the New South Wales Jewish
Speaker 2: Board of Deputies facebook page, how did six million die
Speaker 2: when only three point two registered Jews in Europe.
Speaker 1: At the time?
Speaker 2: And The Australian reports that the very next day, in
Speaker 2: response to a story about Vandal's targeting the Jewish community
Speaker 2: by spraying swastikas on cars, Akka responded zig Hale.
Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen, Aka.
Speaker 2: Blamed Zionism for being the root of terror. He wrote,
Speaker 2: rip to all those innocents that have died in Aleppo
Speaker 2: and around the world in the hands of terrorism, and
Speaker 2: I mean from the root of terrorism America and the
Speaker 2: Zionists taking out these people like Saddam bin Leyden and Gaddafi.
Speaker 1: Look what it started. He also wrote, you.
Speaker 2: Still think nine to eleven was not an inside job
Speaker 2: to start this money making and Muslim massacre process, delete
Speaker 2: yourself now. So clearly a deeply disturbing anti Semitic ideology
Speaker 2: behind the criminal who police allege was targeting the Jewish community.
Speaker 2: Now the Australian newspaper has done a terrific job exposing
Speaker 2: this over the.
Speaker 1: Past few days.
Speaker 2: Yet police publicly claimed a week ago today that anti
Speaker 2: Semitism was not a motivating factor. The AFP Deputy Commissioner
Speaker 2: Chrissy Barrett said the motivation was organized crime and a
Speaker 2: reduced sentence, not anti Semitism. She spoke about wanting to
Speaker 2: give comfort, her words comfort to the Jewish community, and
Speaker 2: she used words like fake.
Speaker 1: And criminal conjob.
Speaker 2: Here were some of those remarks from Chrisy Barrett that
Speaker 2: we now know were misleading and irresponsible.
Speaker 3: It's absolutely reprehensible that criminals would be taking advantage of
Speaker 3: the current environment when we know there is already a
Speaker 3: lot of fear and a lot of anxiousness in the
Speaker 3: environment to be leveraging that for their own benefit.
Speaker 2: At that press conference, New South Wales police backed up
Speaker 2: the view of the AFP.
Speaker 4: But you were saying that they were being carried out
Speaker 4: by people within a so many views, so peop led
Speaker 4: by criminals.
Speaker 5: Correct, And.
Speaker 6: You don't have any evidence that he is being driven
Speaker 6: by I hate you say that it's allege that.
Speaker 5: It's organized crime.
Speaker 4: Correct, that you're saying that they weren't being carried out
Speaker 4: by people within a Semitic view, so being led by criminals.
Speaker 7: Correct.
Speaker 2: Okay, And at no point did the AFPs Chrissy Barrett
Speaker 2: disagree with any of those assessments. That was a joint
Speaker 2: press conference New Southereles police reinforced the view yet again
Speaker 2: in that press conference that anti Semitism wasn't behind the
Speaker 2: spate of attacks.
Speaker 8: So just a question on the arrests that you'd made.
Speaker 8: You said that you didn't believe anti semitism or an ideology.
Speaker 9: For any of those arrested.
Speaker 8: Do you also believe that anti Semitism was not an
Speaker 8: ideology for anyone higher up pulling any industries on any
Speaker 8: of the incidents.
Speaker 7: I think what these organized crime heads have done is
Speaker 7: play to vulnerabilities in the community. Obviously there have been
Speaker 7: anti Semitic attacks of lower nature and a lot of
Speaker 7: anger and angst within the community. We've seen that since
Speaker 7: October seventh, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: Now, Dave Hudson later admitted in budget estimates, and that
Speaker 2: was Dave Hudson, the New Southwales Police Deputy Commissioner. He
Speaker 2: later set in budget estimates that he didn't actually know
Speaker 2: what the motivation was because it was the AFP who'd
Speaker 2: been handling the informant. But this was a major joint
Speaker 2: press conference between the AFP and New South Wales Police
Speaker 2: and make no mistake, antisemitism was categorically ruled out as
Speaker 2: being behind the attacks. Now, this led to a widespread
Speaker 2: view that the antisemitism crisis had been confected, created by
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton and NewsCorp and there was nothing to see.
Speaker 2: And Anthony Alberinezi picked up on the idea of it
Speaker 2: all being a hoax.
Speaker 10: So whilst it was a folks a hoax and the
Speaker 10: motivation was about criminal activities and not related to those issues,
Speaker 10: the fear that it created was very.
Speaker 1: Real, wrong, wrong, wrong.
Speaker 2: So, as I said, the sense is that this has
Speaker 2: been a confected and fake crisis, and you think about
Speaker 2: that word fake. Well, the AFP Deputy Commissioner Chrissy Barrett
Speaker 2: use the word fake seven times in her opening remarks.
Speaker 3: Well, we are confident these tip offs were fake. There
Speaker 3: were several people who had different levels of involvement in
Speaker 3: this fake terrorism plot. A number of people have been
Speaker 3: identified as part of this fake terrorism plot. Regardless of
Speaker 3: the motivation of those responsible for this fake plot, those
Speaker 3: creating fake terror threats face being charged for creating fake plots.
Speaker 3: High powered weapons for a fake terror.
Speaker 2: Plot, fake, fake, fake, and that word fake has cut
Speaker 2: through the city. My herold's David Crowe attacked Peter Dutton,
Speaker 2: writing why was he so quick to create a confected
Speaker 2: crisis out of a criminal plot? A nine News reported
Speaker 2: that the entire antisemitism crisis was a hoax.
Speaker 11: So I d Massoui is one of fourteen people arrested
Speaker 11: after the Dural Caravan investigation uncovered the wave of antisemitism
Speaker 11: across our city was a criminal.
Speaker 2: Hoax, and the ABC suggested that maybe the understanding of
Speaker 2: antisemitism should be revised down.
Speaker 1: Do we need to revise down our understanding? The number
Speaker 1: of genuine anti Semitic attacks that have taken place.
Speaker 2: And now there's a whole movement in New South Wales
Speaker 2: Parliament to overturn Premier Chris Mins's hate speech laws. Now,
Speaker 2: there had been political pressure from the Albanese government on
Speaker 2: the Joint Police Task Force to state publicly that this
Speaker 2: wasn't a terror attack, to push the narrative that it
Speaker 2: was a hoax. I told you this on Thursday Night's program,
Speaker 2: and so Tony Burke was ready to go with his
Speaker 2: attack lines against Dutton right after the police press conference.
Speaker 2: Now this is part of the Albaneze government's push to
Speaker 2: downplay antisemitism as an issue, to claim there's no national
Speaker 2: security crisis here at all. But we now know categorically
Speaker 2: the alleged mastermind had praised Hitler, blamed Zionism for terrorism
Speaker 2: and said an Arab alliance was coming. Now, the question
Speaker 2: that the Australian newspaper posed on its front page on Saturday,
Speaker 2: you can see it here. They said, police say attacks
Speaker 2: not motivated by hate. But if this is an antisemitism,
Speaker 2: what is? And that is exactly right. So the Australian
Speaker 2: Federal Police now need to say publicly whether they knew
Speaker 2: about AKUSC commentary when they deliberately downplayed antisemitism as a
Speaker 2: motivating factor behind the attacks, because.
Speaker 1: Either the AFP did know about.
Speaker 2: Akis anti semitism and then misled the public, or the
Speaker 2: AFP didn't know about his social media commentary, in which
Speaker 2: case this is an appalling indictment on the lackluster investigative
Speaker 2: efforts of the AFP. How could journalists at the Australian
Speaker 2: uncover these remarks but not the AFP. Now I asked
Speaker 2: the AFP these questions today. I also asked whether they
Speaker 2: will be apologizing to Australians for their dangerous messaging that
Speaker 2: has in fact exacerbated this crisis. But the AFP would
Speaker 2: an answer. They gave me a statement saying they believe
Speaker 2: the person wanted a change to their criminal status.
Speaker 1: Of course, both things can be true.
Speaker 2: Now, Alex Riftrin has spoken powerfully about the devastating impact
Speaker 2: that press conference has had. He said it's exposed dangerous
Speaker 2: failings by authorities, political leaders and public figures who chose
Speaker 2: to characterize the fire bombings that hit Jewish targets as
Speaker 2: a hoax or conjob unconnected to anti Semitic ideology, and
Speaker 2: to do so before the investigation had been concluded. He
Speaker 2: said it set off a deluge of anti Semitic conspiracy
Speaker 2: theories about inside jobs and increased harassment and vilification of Jews,
Speaker 2: and Alex will be on the show shortly, but this
Speaker 2: is all extraordinary and deeply disturbing and we have to
Speaker 2: call it out. The black and white evidence shows that
Speaker 2: Akka has made vile anti Semitic remarks, and yet without
Speaker 2: arresting him or even interviewing him, the AFP publicly declared
Speaker 2: that this wave of terror targeting Jewish businesses, schools and
Speaker 2: places of worship was not anti Semitism. This created a
Speaker 2: dangerous denial of anti Semitism in the community and in
Speaker 2: the media, and it emboldened those who never wanted to
Speaker 2: admit that there was a problem in the first place.
Speaker 2: It's led to more harassment and more hatred. And we've
Speaker 2: seen this pattern before. The same authorities who told us
Speaker 2: there were no laws broken when a mob at the
Speaker 2: Sydney Opera House chanted f the Jews instead of gas
Speaker 2: the Jews were they're now trying to convince Australia that
Speaker 2: Jewish property being vandalized and firebomb is somehow not anti Semitic.
Speaker 2: This is gas lighting on a national scale. Words matter,
Speaker 2: the language of law enforcement and political leaders matter. Consider
Speaker 2: how the Albanezy government pushed for police to publicly claire
Speaker 2: the caravan wasn't a terror threat, how quick Tony Burke
Speaker 2: was to seize on the police position for political advantage,
Speaker 2: gleefully attacking Dutton. And you have to wonder is this
Speaker 2: political expediency? Could the Albanezy government actually stoop so low
Speaker 2: as to downplay this serious issue because.
Speaker 1: It's on the eve of an election.
Speaker 2: Australia's leaders, entrusted with all of our safety and all
Speaker 2: of our national security, have showed cowardice an indifference on
Speaker 2: this crisis from the.
Speaker 1: Very beginning and now right before the election.
Speaker 2: Law enforcement positions a state of very serious and violent
Speaker 2: attacks as a hoax, as fake, a fake threat, despite
Speaker 2: the fact lives could have been lost and it's lucky
Speaker 2: they weren't.
Speaker 1: This entire saga is not over.
Speaker 2: There is more to come and we will not allow
Speaker 2: those in control to bury the truth. Okay, I'm going
Speaker 2: to be joined by Alex Rifchin in a little bit
Speaker 2: to speak about that. But now let's bring in Liberal
Speaker 2: Senator Holly Hughes and Sky News contributor Joe Hildebrand.
Speaker 1: Welcome, here.
Speaker 2: I'm going to come back to that topic, but I
Speaker 2: want to get through or talk about some of the
Speaker 2: other big stories today because tonight the Prime Minister is
Speaker 2: being condemned as tone deaf yet again. Aaron Patrick in
Speaker 2: The Nightly reports that the Prime Minister attended one hundred
Speaker 2: thousand dollars fundraising dinner with super donors at the Elite
Speaker 2: Ariat restaurant and you can see here photographs of the
Speaker 2: Prime Minister arriving. Pretty extraordinary. They were there to capture
Speaker 2: the moment and Holly. The article points out that this
Speaker 2: as most Australians are dealing with the cost of living
Speaker 2: crisis and the hypocrisy here is a pertinent one given
Speaker 2: Alban Eazy was attack Dutton for a fundraiser just last week.
Speaker 12: Well, I think it's the fact that they were attacking
Speaker 12: Peter Dutton for attending to a fundraiser.
Speaker 1: The night before.
Speaker 12: In fact, it was supposed to be on the same night.
Speaker 12: It turned out that they moved this function in the
Speaker 12: area by one night. I wonder where Murray Watt is today.
Speaker 12: He was sent out as the yapping dogs last week
Speaker 12: to attend to attack Dutton. And we have a major
Speaker 12: day with CFMU News and he is workplace Relations and
Speaker 12: he was the attack dog sent out to attack Dutton
Speaker 12: for attending a fundraiser. And they're very quiet today. I mean,
Speaker 12: the thing about this Labor government, if they didn't have
Speaker 12: double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all. And
Speaker 12: this is just another example of their absolute betrayal of
Speaker 12: the Australian people and how they continually undermine anyone's faith
Speaker 12: in government and the political process because of their own
Speaker 12: poor behavior.
Speaker 1: Joe is very rare for.
Speaker 2: Media to actually capture images of peace arriving for such
Speaker 2: a small elite fundraising dinner like this. But look, you've
Speaker 2: got to admit it's not a good look. This is
Speaker 2: a very fancy restaurant.
Speaker 1: You know, their.
Speaker 2: Bottles of champagne go up to ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Two hundred and fifty.
Speaker 13: Dollars would be paying literally one thousandth of that for
Speaker 13: my plank. Yeah, look at fundraisers are never a good look.
Speaker 13: Both parties have them in the lead up and especially
Speaker 13: so obviously in the lead up to elections. It never
Speaker 13: looks particularly well, I don't think. And you know, good
Speaker 13: on the you know, good on the Nightly forgetting the
Speaker 13: yard that's great, but I don't think the two are comparable.
Speaker 13: The PM only attended this fundraiser yesterday on Sunday after
Speaker 13: delaying it for more than a week because it was
Speaker 13: because of Cyclone Alfred. The allegation or the who had
Speaker 13: that was kicked up about Peter Dutton attending a fundraiser
Speaker 13: in Justin Hems's Place on the Harbor was that it
Speaker 13: was in the middle of Cyclone Alfred and that was in.
Speaker 1: Four days topical psycho.
Speaker 13: Tropical low Alfred. But that followed Peter Dutton criticizing the
Speaker 13: PM and saying he would be tone deaf if he
Speaker 13: called an election. So it was just a process of
Speaker 13: tit for tat.
Speaker 12: But it's also on the back of Albaneze skipping out
Speaker 12: of Parliament going up to Far North Queensland for the
Speaker 12: floods because he had to go early in the morning,
Speaker 12: and it turns out he had to go early in
Speaker 12: the morning, not stand up for the people of Australia,
Speaker 12: not answer questions in question time, which is his job.
Speaker 12: He went up there, got a private plane doesn't have
Speaker 12: to go commercial routes, and then was on the ground
Speaker 12: in Far North Queensland for a couple of hours because
Speaker 12: he had to get the plane back to Brisbane for
Speaker 12: a big labor fundraiser that night in Brisbane. And I
Speaker 12: think maybe this is where the Labor government. You know,
Speaker 12: everyone does have fundraisers. It's an election, but the fact
Speaker 12: that Labor is so desperate that their record is so
Speaker 12: bad that they are so keen to attacked up and
Speaker 12: for absolutely anything, Yet their own form is there to
Speaker 12: see and if they don't want their own form called out,
Speaker 12: if they don't want the wh hypocrisy at least Peter
Speaker 12: Dutton wasn't zipn around in the VIP and skipping out
Speaker 12: of pot in the same way out.
Speaker 13: Though it was fired by Peter Dutton when he basically
Speaker 13: boxed elbow into a corner and said, if you call
Speaker 13: an election during this.
Speaker 9: Emergency event which have just.
Speaker 2: Downplayed to be fair Joe treasure Treasurer Jim Chalmers was
Speaker 2: also telling the Prime Minister behind the scenes the election.
Speaker 13: I was saying it would be a terrible idea as well.
Speaker 13: But Peter Dutton was clearly making a bit of political
Speaker 13: hay with it.
Speaker 2: Right, let's let's keep let's have a look at some
Speaker 2: of the other stories tonight. Dutton has hinted that income
Speaker 2: tax cuts could be on the agenda and the Coalitions,
Speaker 2: pointing to research showing that the average Australian had to
Speaker 2: pay three and a half thousand dollars more intacts last
Speaker 2: financial year compared to before Albanizi became Prime minister.
Speaker 1: Holly, what are you hearing about?
Speaker 2: Obviously he can't announce it, al buter, what are you
Speaker 2: hearing about the possibility that the Coalition is lanning to
Speaker 2: announce income tax cuts.
Speaker 12: Well, the election hasn't been called yet and we're not
Speaker 12: going to be pressured into making announcements just because the
Speaker 12: Labor Government wants to jump up and down or the
Speaker 12: ABC wants to jump up and down. But Australians are
Speaker 12: being slugged considerably more in income tax. And you know,
Speaker 12: you can argue whatever you like, and we all know
Speaker 12: everything's gone up. We know standard of livings have gone down,
Speaker 12: we know all of the cost pressures that Australian families
Speaker 12: are experiencing. But the other figure that people need to understand.
Speaker 12: When the Coalition left government, the percentage of their income
Speaker 12: that most Australians were paying in tax was around twenty
Speaker 12: three percent. It is now about to tip into twenty
Speaker 12: seven percent under this government. So even while they sprout,
Speaker 12: everyone got a tax cut under this government, the majority
Speaker 12: of Australians. The average amount of tax being paid by
Speaker 12: Australians has increased by four percent under this government's watch.
Speaker 12: And I can tell you the one thing that coalition
Speaker 12: government will do without it making any sort of big
Speaker 12: announcement is cut some of the wasteful spending that we
Speaker 12: are consistently seeing from this government that is leading to
Speaker 12: these cost of living and.
Speaker 2: I'm speaking to just Enterprice about that a bit later
Speaker 2: in the show. Now, you remember at the last election,
Speaker 2: Albnezi made a big song and dance about having an
Speaker 2: anti corruption watchdog, Well, what is.
Speaker 1: It actually done in the past three years?
Speaker 12: Same as your two hundred and seventy fivevial reduction.
Speaker 2: There is serially in reports today that there are even
Speaker 2: calls to replace the Commissioner, Paul Brereton. Joe.
Speaker 1: This has been operating for you know, yeah, it hasn't.
Speaker 13: I always thought this was a really stupid idea and
Speaker 13: there was always going to tell kind of administrative wide
Speaker 13: elephant there is. There has not been any real wholesale
Speaker 13: evidence of endemic corruption at a federal level, and people said, oh,
Speaker 13: that's because we haven't had a watch dog to exit.
Speaker 1: It's so different from SATs.
Speaker 13: The opportunities just don't exist. I'm sure they don't be
Speaker 13: in and up to their next.
Speaker 1: In the wrong level of.
Speaker 2: There's plenty of corrupt conduct going on. I say that
Speaker 2: as a journalist, but we haven't heard.
Speaker 13: The sort of the sort of correct. It's not just
Speaker 13: they're all squeaky clean and moral cure. What's obviously everyone
Speaker 13: is on the labor side. The others I can't speak for, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that always works very well out for you, Joe Hey,
Speaker 1: come on the right.
Speaker 12: But the way they've kept me, the opportunities.
Speaker 13: For corruption are much much, much greater in state and
Speaker 13: local government than they are in federal government. It's just
Speaker 13: harder to be corrupt in the federal system because you
Speaker 13: have to do things like, you know, giving out giving out
Speaker 13: tenders to.
Speaker 1: You for curemens.
Speaker 2: The fact that the agency hasn't had many corruption findings
Speaker 2: doesn't mean the corruption's not happening. It means they've been
Speaker 2: ineffective or a truthless tiger. There is one hundred percent.
Speaker 12: Well, we saw a two point four or two point
Speaker 12: three million dollar payment made to Britney Higgins in warp Speed.
Speaker 1: Saying that was referred.
Speaker 12: But that's been referred and there's been nothing done say that.
Speaker 13: Okay, you could say that's inappropriate, or it's excessive, or
Speaker 13: there wasn't enough you know, transparency or due diligence. But
Speaker 13: is anyone seriously saying that, you know, the Attorney General
Speaker 13: took a kick back to hand out that money. Of
Speaker 13: course not.
Speaker 12: But the political pain is creating a whole.
Speaker 1: Lot of problem.
Speaker 13: But that is the sort of stuff that the state
Speaker 13: corruption watch dogs look into. People taking money in exchange
Speaker 13: for political decisions, that is the definition of it. And
Speaker 13: there is just no real evidence that there's any kind
Speaker 13: of widespread there. There might be a decisions you disagree with,
Speaker 13: and there might be people.
Speaker 2: It's again, it's more that we haven't seen them take
Speaker 2: any action. It's not the fact that that behavior isn't
Speaker 2: there in the first place.
Speaker 1: It's just not the case.
Speaker 13: But anyway, it's hard to know in what way it
Speaker 13: could be.
Speaker 2: All right, Joe Hildebrand Holly Hughes A. Right, let's return
Speaker 2: to our top story now, the bombshell findings around the
Speaker 2: trove of Andy Semitic slurs by the alleged caravan Terra
Speaker 2: plot mastermind. And let's bring in Executive Council of Australian
Speaker 2: Jury co CEO Alex Riftin.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us once again.
Speaker 2: Look, what's your reaction to the fact that police came
Speaker 2: out a week ago and said anti Semitism wasn't a
Speaker 2: motivating factor and now we see all this evidence in
Speaker 2: the Australian Well, it.
Speaker 14: Was really disappointing, Shrry because the police, we know, want
Speaker 14: to keep us safe. We know they've devoted immense resources
Speaker 14: and manpower to hunting these people, to solving the crimes.
Speaker 14: We know they want to keep the Jewish community in
Speaker 14: wider society at peace and harmony. We know this, and
Speaker 14: they did fantastic work in making arrests and investigating these
Speaker 14: five bombings and the Dural incident as well. But they
Speaker 14: seem to have undone that fine work with their communication.
Speaker 14: And like you said at the outset, words matter and
Speaker 14: we have to understand that the revelations from these investigations
Speaker 14: were incredibly serious. We learned then, in addition to everything
Speaker 14: we faced over the past seventeen months, the docs and
Speaker 14: the vilification, the harassment, everything happening at schools and universities
Speaker 14: and the medical system, and support for terrorism and street abuse.
Speaker 9: On of all that, you now have.
Speaker 14: Hardened criminals hanging off lowly hoodlands to set fire to
Speaker 14: our buildings and cars and set out streets ablaze with
Speaker 14: reckless disregard for what happens. And it's a miracle that
Speaker 14: no one was killed. But for some reason the police
Speaker 14: and announcing chose to completely downplay it, refer to it
Speaker 14: as a con job and a fake and all these
Speaker 14: sorts of things, and predictably that set off the whole
Speaker 14: stream of conspiracy theories about a masade hit and an
Speaker 14: inside job, and all those negative actors who for seventeen
Speaker 14: months have sought to downplay with deni anti Semitism were
Speaker 14: given this immense gift. And why they chose to do that,
Speaker 14: why they chose to undermine their wonderful police work, is
Speaker 14: really beyond.
Speaker 2: I mean, do you think it's similar to the gas
Speaker 2: the Jews commentary when police again took something that was
Speaker 2: so vile on the steps of the opera house and
Speaker 2: said there was basically no issue because the words were
Speaker 2: kill the Jews, not gas the Jews.
Speaker 14: Well, you know, in contrast, I think the gas the
Speaker 14: Jews incident now looks trivial and like a mere peculiarity.
Speaker 14: Given the magnitude of this announcement and the words they
Speaker 14: used in this case, I think the implications have been
Speaker 14: far greater.
Speaker 9: With gas the Jews. Where's the Jews?
Speaker 14: I thought that was a dubious thing for the police
Speaker 14: to do, to effectively try to exculpate those who are
Speaker 14: chanting those words and bold us down in a dispute
Speaker 14: about whether it was where's the Jews or gas Jews,
Speaker 14: as though one was better than the other.
Speaker 9: That was peculiar.
Speaker 14: But this has really broken the momentum in terms of
Speaker 14: trying to actually fight anti Semitism and deliver solutions to
Speaker 14: the anti semitism crisis and a national security crisis. And
Speaker 14: as I mentioned, it's allowed negative actors who have tried
Speaker 14: to downplay this whole time to now galvanize and to
Speaker 14: try to dampen all the momentum and the enthusiasm for
Speaker 14: actually solving this problem.
Speaker 9: So it's really incredibly disappointing.
Speaker 2: And now there's a push to repeal hate speech laws
Speaker 2: in your South. I was parliament Alix, you and your
Speaker 2: organization have been calling for tougher laws for years, and
Speaker 2: in fact, your organization has had to take civil action
Speaker 2: because the current laws are so inadequate.
Speaker 14: That's right, and it didn't begin on October seven. For
Speaker 14: many years, we've seen on occasion extreme clerics and others
Speaker 14: trying to effectively revive medieval hatreds and bring fign conflicts
Speaker 14: to our streets, inciting their followers to menace the Jewish
Speaker 14: community and to commit acts of violence.
Speaker 9: And for a long time.
Speaker 14: We've advocated for stricter laws against incitement of this sort.
Speaker 14: It's not about speech, it's not about the exchange of ideas.
Speaker 14: We're talking about words that are intended to incite hatred
Speaker 14: and violence in our communities.
Speaker 9: That's something extremely serious.
Speaker 14: And after October seven, we of course saw a whole
Speaker 14: series of clerics again glorifying the Hamas attacks, encouraging the
Speaker 14: followers to do likewise, speaking specifically of Jews in the
Speaker 14: most violent hatred terms imaginable, and there's no real remedy criminally,
Speaker 14: and so my organization was forced to be reaction under
Speaker 14: secuity in SEID the Racial Discrimination Act, which really for
Speaker 14: the sources of grave incidents that we're seeing is not
Speaker 14: the adequate remedy.
Speaker 9: And these laws.
Speaker 14: Again, it's a byproduct of the language used by the
Speaker 14: police in discounting antisymptism as a motive, because now we're
Speaker 14: seeing these attacks on the Premier of New South Wales,
Speaker 14: he's being accused of rushing through these laws as a
Speaker 14: knee jerk reaction to duel, when in fact these laws
Speaker 14: have been brewing for many, many years and are badly needed.
Speaker 1: Indeed they are now.
Speaker 2: Alex, I want to ask you about the outcomes from
Speaker 2: our anti Semitism summit a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Now now you.
Speaker 2: Wrote to Peter Dutton, he's publicly said that he would
Speaker 2: commit to every single one of the action points that
Speaker 2: do have that fall under federal remit. Now you've also
Speaker 2: written to the Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi. Have you heard
Speaker 2: back yet about whether he'll implement the action plan?
Speaker 14: Not as if yet and we eagerly wait that response because,
Speaker 14: particularly in light of what's happened in the last week
Speaker 14: or so, with the diminishing of antisemitism as a priority issue,
Speaker 14: I think it's incumbent on the Prime Minister to respond
Speaker 14: to those fifteen points, which are all reasonable, which deal
Speaker 14: with both the short term and the long term issues
Speaker 14: that give rise to antisemitism, which will restore societal harmony
Speaker 14: to our great country. And we need the premise to
Speaker 14: take a position on this and to show whether the
Speaker 14: fight against antisemitism can be something that unifies the major
Speaker 14: parties and unify a society or whether there's a clear
Speaker 14: difference between the two major parties and how they view
Speaker 14: antisemitism and how they seek to combat.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully we do get an answer from the Prime
Speaker 2: Minister because, as you said, that action point is still
Speaker 2: desperately needed despite the current attempts to downplay this whole crisis. Alex,
Speaker 2: thank you so much once again for your strong advocacy.
Speaker 2: Now after the break, a million dollars in taxpayer funds
Speaker 2: spent on decolonizing breastfeeding Australia's next doge potentially if they
Speaker 2: win the election, just into Nampijibber Price would join me
Speaker 2: on the show. Plus a zealous climate campaigner defends his
Speaker 2: fancy private jet purpose. The hypocrisy is shocking. Find out
Speaker 2: who this is. After the break, welcome back, all right.
Speaker 2: Just Enterprise will be on the show shortly to talk
Speaker 2: about the Albanezi government spending taxpayer funds on projects like
Speaker 2: decolonizing breastfeeding. But first, climate crusader Mike cannon Brooks has
Speaker 2: defended his purchase of a private jet, emit a pretty
Speaker 2: comprehensive backdrop of green energy evangelism. He's conceded he's feeling
Speaker 2: a deep internal conflict.
Speaker 1: That must be a tough struggle for him.
Speaker 2: But he said it was so he can run a
Speaker 2: global business from Australia and still be a constantly present dad. Now,
Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce has gone on air calling him a total
Speaker 2: and other hypocrite. Let's bring now our panel to see
Speaker 2: what they think. Headline Advisory Director Andrew Carswell and GXO
Speaker 2: Strategies Director Camerine Milner. Welcome to you both. So Andrew,
Speaker 2: what is this? Carbon emissions are bad Unless it means
Speaker 2: you can be a good dad, then don't worry about
Speaker 2: the environment.
Speaker 8: Oh look, char if.
Speaker 15: We're talking about, you know, the most amusing story of
Speaker 15: the year so far, and this one's going to be
Speaker 15: top three. I mean, this is a billionaire that's effectively
Speaker 15: gone out in the street wearing sackcloth and pouring ashes
Speaker 15: on his head and asking forgiveness for buying a private jet.
Speaker 15: I mean have you ever seen someone so sad about
Speaker 15: buying a seventy million dollar private jet. It's got to
Speaker 15: be the self flagellation of the century. But the thing
Speaker 15: I love about this most is his own words are
Speaker 15: the very people that he's been fighting against for years
Speaker 15: on climate action. And I don't know if I owned
Speaker 15: a coal minor, if I owned a gas field, I
Speaker 15: would be writing down those very words and putting them
Speaker 15: on my wall as proof the gospel according to Big Mike.
Speaker 15: And some of the phrases are just amazing. Here's one
Speaker 15: here is striking. The balance between pragmatism and ambition is hard.
Speaker 15: Here here, well done, thanks for getting there. And what
Speaker 15: about this? And we know climate isn't a zero sum game.
Speaker 15: The truth will set you free.
Speaker 1: Indeed, Andrew.
Speaker 2: But Cameron, I mean, I don't know the exact figures,
Speaker 2: so I could be wrong here, but you'd imagine that,
Speaker 2: you know, one return trip from here to the US
Speaker 2: would probably be the equivalent climate admissions that an average
Speaker 2: family in western Sydney would spend.
Speaker 1: In a whole year.
Speaker 2: And yet he lectures everyone else about you know, effectively
Speaker 2: paying more.
Speaker 16: Don't you love hypocrisy?
Speaker 9: Writ Large?
Speaker 16: I mean when you have a proselytizing climate change bid
Speaker 16: in air, preaching to working class people. We've got to
Speaker 16: drop everything off like this and you know, and return
Speaker 16: to sackcloths. But it's okay for his Boeing private jet
Speaker 16: that he agonizes agonizes over Sharik. Which one thing I
Speaker 16: love though is he has a green stripe down the
Speaker 16: side of it. Yet you've got a green stripe pain
Speaker 16: down side of it, obviously, because that obviously makes it
Speaker 16: better that he's jetting around the world in this thing. Now, look,
Speaker 16: this is just our hypocrisy rit large. He's been caught
Speaker 16: out for it and his excuses simply are good enough.
Speaker 2: No, indeed completely agree and seriously being a good doubt,
Speaker 2: come on, get off.
Speaker 1: You can be a good dub.
Speaker 2: Without the project the children, Yes, exactly. Now, for the
Speaker 2: second week in a row, Malcolm Turbull has intervened in
Speaker 2: the political debate. Today he criticized Orcus. You've probably heard
Speaker 2: the comments by now. He's also condemned Peter Dutton for
Speaker 2: refusing to support Albanezi and offering up a peacekeeping force.
Speaker 1: Our troops in Ukraine.
Speaker 2: Now, Andrew Turnbull just can't stay away and we're probably
Speaker 2: going to see more of him in the when the
Speaker 2: election campaign kicks off, because the last thing Turnbull once
Speaker 2: is Dutton his enemy becoming prime minister.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, this man is a dick to seeing
Speaker 15: his own name in newspapers and on TV. He's addicted
Speaker 15: to giving deep and moaningful interviews on ABC radio and TV.
Speaker 15: We've got to remember, as you said, he views Peter
Speaker 15: Dutton with enormous suspicion and holds him ultimately responsible for
Speaker 15: his downfall as Prime minister. It was Peter Dutton that
Speaker 15: initially made the moves against him exactly, so he sees
Speaker 15: this as an opportunity to get his revenge. This is
Speaker 15: a man that has built his entire career on the
Speaker 15: back of revenge, on the back of getting even He's
Speaker 15: done that throughout his entire political life, but also his
Speaker 15: business career as well. It is it's his motors operandi.
Speaker 15: And you know he's coming to get Peter Dutton in
Speaker 15: this campaign.
Speaker 2: And when we at the time just reported the news
Speaker 2: that Dutton was considering a leadership challenge against Turnbull, all
Speaker 2: of Channel nine and Turnbull and everyone blamed NewsCorp just
Speaker 2: for reporting the story. Now, ca we've seen Turnbull's intervention.
Speaker 2: But what about your old boss, Bill Shorten, Because here
Speaker 2: came out on Friday with some comments, some advice maybe
Speaker 2: for alban easy about trade tariffs. So are we going
Speaker 2: to see more of Bill Shorton as well in this
Speaker 2: election campaign?
Speaker 3: Look?
Speaker 16: I think we are, and I think Bill's got a
Speaker 16: very big role. Obviously it's a vice chance for a
Speaker 16: significant university and it's up to him to make public comment.
Speaker 16: But let's make the difference here. I mean, Malcolm Turble
Speaker 16: is always about Malcolm. Bill's point was that tariffs have
Speaker 16: to be on the table, and that's what Keis Starmer said,
Speaker 16: It's what every other Western nation has said. And response
Speaker 16: to Trump only weak elbow only week Albo has said,
Speaker 16: oh no I won't touch tariff's. I won't touch it.
Speaker 16: They're not even on the table now, Donald, you know,
Speaker 16: please come and see me. I mean, the reality of
Speaker 16: what Bill said was tariff should be on the table.
Speaker 16: The difference though is that Malcolm is only ever about Malcolm.
Speaker 1: Let's have a look at the new polling today.
Speaker 2: Freshwater polling shows the L and P head of Labor
Speaker 2: still on the two party preferred metric. That's fifty one
Speaker 2: to forty nine. It shows the Coalitions re vote slipped slightly.
Speaker 2: It's now thirty nine percent. Labour's is thirty one percent. Andrew,
Speaker 2: you worked with Scott Morrison when everyone thought he'd lose
Speaker 2: the twenty nineteen election.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's some similarities now? What do you
Speaker 1: think of Peter Dutton's prospects?
Speaker 15: Well, certainly, if there's an election this weekend, Shari, then
Speaker 15: you would see a Labor minority government, and probably a
Speaker 15: deep one at that. Look, clearly Labor has some momentum back.
Speaker 1: Finally.
Speaker 15: They spent the last three years trying to get momentum
Speaker 15: by all manner of different things, but they've actually got
Speaker 15: a bit momentum now. A little bit of that is
Speaker 15: from interest rate, a little bit of that is from
Speaker 15: the medicare policy they had, but most of it has
Speaker 15: come through a concerted effort to bring down Peter Dutton,
Speaker 15: whether that be through earned media hit jobs or a
Speaker 15: two million dollar paid advertising blitz against Peter Dutton. Peter
Speaker 15: Dutton is all they want to talk about. They don't
Speaker 15: to talk about the economy because it's in the toilet.
Speaker 15: They don't want to talk about the budget necessarily because
Speaker 15: it's covered with red ink. All they've got to talk
Speaker 15: about is Petter Dutton. It's the first thing they think
Speaker 15: about when they wake up, it's the last thing they
Speaker 15: think about when they go to bed. All they want
Speaker 15: to talk about is peit of Dutton. The question is
Speaker 15: whether this is going to keep alarming people over the
Speaker 15: long term. I think people naturally will get sick of it,
Speaker 15: particularly this far out from an election. If you keep
Speaker 15: going down this path of negativity, negativity, negativity, it's going
Speaker 15: to wear pretty thin.
Speaker 2: There's also the budget which we now are going to have.
Speaker 2: You know, the government at Albanezi certainly didn't want to have.
Speaker 2: He wasn't planning for it.
Speaker 1: Cameron.
Speaker 2: We heard the Treasurer to say, We heard the treasure
Speaker 2: today say that the impact from ext tropical cyclone Alfred
Speaker 2: it'll be around one point two billion dollar hit to
Speaker 2: the budget bottom line. So is this softening the ground
Speaker 2: for the budget position being worse than expected?
Speaker 16: Well, I think if you look at my EFA which
Speaker 16: Jim Chalmers brought down December, the numbers aren't going to
Speaker 16: get any better Shahi in March for the full budget.
Speaker 16: And it's certainly certainly the case that Alba want to
Speaker 16: avoid a full budget all costs. But I think it's
Speaker 16: a real opportunity for Charmers to shine. I mean, Charmers
Speaker 16: is doing the work as treasurer to shape up the
Speaker 16: budget in a week's time, he'll deliver that and the
Speaker 16: shape and the big contest between Charmers, who I think
Speaker 16: is really on the money as a treasurer, and the
Speaker 16: flop and the flake that is Angus Taylor as the
Speaker 16: shadow treasurer will be the huge problem with his campaign.
Speaker 16: Every time Angers Taylor's out there with a new hairdoo,
Speaker 16: Jim Charms out there doing the real hard work as
Speaker 16: a treasurer. So that's the difference, and I think that
Speaker 16: contrast will be something we'll see throughout the campaign, right
Speaker 16: through to the May election.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that?
Speaker 2: Andrew Carswell is at a fair characterization flake for Angus Taylor?
Speaker 15: No, it's not, and the Coalition will have more to
Speaker 15: say on their economic policies as a little ection draws closer.
Speaker 15: The thing about Jim though, he's got it. He's usually
Speaker 15: very good salesman, but he's got He's got a budget
Speaker 15: that is absolutely covered in reading to sell that there
Speaker 15: are no goodies in this budget.
Speaker 1: Beyond a little.
Speaker 15: Bit of help with energy bills, there's deficits to near eternity.
Speaker 15: There's record government spending which the public are becoming suspicious with.
Speaker 15: So it's really selling the unsellable. And yes he might
Speaker 15: be the best salersman of the government, but it's a
Speaker 15: very very tough sale heading into a campaign.
Speaker 2: All right, Andrew Carswell, Cameron Milner, great to see you
Speaker 2: as always for our political panel on a Monday now
Speaker 2: after the break law, students told they could fail exams
Speaker 2: if they're welcome to country is underwhelming, or if they
Speaker 2: refuse to acknowledge traditional owners, plus the absurd projects funded
Speaker 2: by your taxpayer dollars. Just into Namber jimper Price would
Speaker 2: joined me after this quick break.
Speaker 1: Welcome back or just into Namba. Jimper Price could potentially
Speaker 1: be the.
Speaker 2: Next Doze of Australia, our nation's answer to Elon Musk,
Speaker 2: and such a role is unfortunately needed. The Sunday Telly
Speaker 2: reports that your taxpayer dollars are finding over a million
Speaker 2: dollars on decolonizing breastfeeding nearly nine hundred thousand dollars on
Speaker 2: the mouth as an expression of racial injustice. Over three
Speaker 2: hundred grand on subverting souvenir teatowers and eighteen thousand dollars
Speaker 2: on a drag experiment. We're joining us now to discuss
Speaker 2: this shadow Indigenous Australians. Minister just into Navagin for price,
Speaker 2: just into thank you very much for your time. What
Speaker 2: even is decolonizing breastfeeding?
Speaker 1: It just is so absurd.
Speaker 5: Look, it is absolutely absurd.
Speaker 6: And again it goes back to this concept that somehow
Speaker 6: First Nations people, Indigenous Australians have to be treated differently
Speaker 6: to the rest of the country and for some reason
Speaker 6: the concept of breastfeeding has been colonized and needs to
Speaker 6: be decolonized. I mean, I don't know why we're not
Speaker 6: supporting programs that take an approach to support mothers in
Speaker 6: general in terms of how to take care of their
Speaker 6: children with breastfeeding and those sorts of issues and concerns.
Speaker 6: But these grants were found by the Menzies Research Center.
Speaker 5: They've been doing a rafter work. They're about twenty one grants.
Speaker 6: That they have found that have been identified and sub
Speaker 6: got to my attention and to the Coalition's attention. The
Speaker 6: Prime Minister needs to explain why he thinks these grants
Speaker 6: are a valuable spend of tax payers money because where
Speaker 6: I'm sitting, I'm just scratching my head at the moment.
Speaker 2: I know the examples of waste are so absurd, and
Speaker 2: yet we have seen Peter Dutton and you as well
Speaker 2: face criticism when you've announced your plans to look at
Speaker 2: the waste and to actually cut the public service. Gise,
Speaker 2: I just want to ask you about this report in
Speaker 2: Today's Australian that revealed law students at Macquarie University Law
Speaker 2: School may fail an exam if they perform an underwhelm
Speaker 2: acknowledgment of country or even refuse to acknowledge the traditional
Speaker 2: aborage or owners at all.
Speaker 1: What's your view of this.
Speaker 5: It's quite disgraceful.
Speaker 6: I think you know, the whole concept of welcome to
Speaker 6: country is a reinvention of culture if you like the
Speaker 6: fact that it is being imposed upon university students in
Speaker 6: their educational institutions, especially when it's being implanted into courses
Speaker 6: that actually don't have anything to do with indigenous culture,
Speaker 6: history or anything like that.
Speaker 5: This is pure indoctrination. It's not education. It's something that
Speaker 5: we as a coalition have a plan to ensure does
Speaker 5: not go ahead. And I know that my wonderful colleagues
Speaker 5: Sarah Henderson is doing a rafter work in this space.
Speaker 6: As we know when we've been looking at anti semitism
Speaker 6: also within universities, that we can't continue to push these
Speaker 6: ideals onto.
Speaker 5: Students, and they should be there if they're right to
Speaker 5: have an education and not be indoctrinated.
Speaker 2: I hear so many examples of the parents of university
Speaker 2: students telling me that their kids know that they have
Speaker 2: to give what is seen as the right answer when
Speaker 2: it comes to taking a particular position in a subject essay,
Speaker 2: no matter what the topic, because otherwise they'll get marked.
Speaker 1: Down for it.
Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, the students are
Speaker 2: there to get good marks, to succeed and get a job. So,
Speaker 2: you know, the idea that university is are stifling freedom
Speaker 2: of thought is very disturbing.
Speaker 1: You just mentioned Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 6: Sorry, I was just going to say, I mean, I'm
Speaker 6: also hearing from students as well.
Speaker 5: I think this is really just the tip of the iceberg,
Speaker 5: and we will.
Speaker 6: Probably uncover a lot more than just this in terms
Speaker 6: of what universities are subjecting students to exactly.
Speaker 1: That's why we do need a oral commission into it today.
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton committed thirty five million dollars if he wins
Speaker 2: the election to restore the adasses Or Synagogue in Melbourne,
Speaker 2: which was firebomb last year.
Speaker 1: Here he was today.
Speaker 17: Coalition government would provide funding of up to thirty five
Speaker 17: million dollars to provide support to build back. As James
Speaker 17: pointed out before, this synagogue, this center, and this wonderful
Speaker 17: contributor to life here in the local community.
Speaker 8: We want to bring it back to life.
Speaker 1: Jisinda.
Speaker 2: I was actually quite shocked in the past few months
Speaker 2: to see that the Albertezy government hasn't made an equivalent promise.
Speaker 6: No, well, actually I'm not terribly shocked in terms of
Speaker 6: this government's actions.
Speaker 5: Albanesi has failed at a number.
Speaker 6: Of levels to address anti Semitism in our country. You know,
Speaker 6: Peter Dutton came out when we saw what was happening
Speaker 6: on October seven and the horrible things that occurred on
Speaker 6: the Opera House, and ever since Peter Dutton has on
Speaker 6: a line clearly in the sand that we do not
Speaker 6: accept anti Semitism, terrorism and that level of violence within
Speaker 6: our country.
Speaker 5: The Prime Minister. It is shameful that the Prime Minister
Speaker 5: has failed to.
Speaker 6: Even make any kind of commitment towards restoring the synagogue
Speaker 6: or any other commitment toward tackling anti Semitism with any
Speaker 6: real depth or a way that's going to be to
Speaker 6: ensure that our Jewish community feels like they can be
Speaker 6: safe in Australia in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't have the exact figures at hand, but
Speaker 2: I think he's committed something like two hundred thousand dollars,
Speaker 2: but nowhere near in the scale of thirty five million
Speaker 2: that died in did today just send to really appreciate
Speaker 2: your time as.
Speaker 1: Always, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: All Right, Despite overwhelmingly bad media coverage, Donald Trump hits
Speaker 2: his highest approval rating ever.
Speaker 1: I'll talk about that with Kosher Gada.
Speaker 2: Next, all right, and to finish up, let's have a
Speaker 2: look at the US and Skynese contributed Koshagada joins me. Now, Kosha,
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty accused migrant gang members have been
Speaker 2: deported to Ol Salvador.
Speaker 1: But this could be illegal.
Speaker 2: It is illegal, that's in contravention of the federal judges
Speaker 2: ruling against Trump on this.
Speaker 1: Will there be any ramifications.
Speaker 18: You know, legally, Shari, It's hard to see that there
Speaker 18: will be, because what the Trump team's argument is, in
Speaker 18: terms of the narrow legal question that the judge's ruling
Speaker 18: was talking about, is jurisdictional. The executive order that the
Speaker 18: Trump team based this on is basing it on some
Speaker 18: statue from the eighteenth century that the judge is challenging
Speaker 18: whether or not that applies here. And their argument is,
Speaker 18: by the time that order came down, the planes were
Speaker 18: already either mid air in international airspace and so the
Speaker 18: judge did not have jurisdiction on them, or it had
Speaker 18: landed in El Salvador. So I think that's going to
Speaker 18: work its way up to an appeals court, but it's
Speaker 18: kind of a moot point because those folks are not
Speaker 18: American citizens. They're already out of the country. More broadly,
Speaker 18: there's a constitutional issue that has been brewing for quite
Speaker 18: some time, and this is another example on that. Where
Speaker 18: do individual judges who have single jurisdictions and the different
Speaker 18: parts of the country have the authority to keep issuing
Speaker 18: these nationwide injunctions against the head of the executive branch,
Speaker 18: which is the president. And I think that thing it's
Speaker 18: we're not at a constitutional crisis yet, but it's headed
Speaker 18: in that direction. The more and more of these happen,
Speaker 18: And the last point quickly I'd make is the ramifications. Politically,
Speaker 18: I think it hurts the Democrats because this issue is
Speaker 18: one of the few in a divided country that's an
Speaker 18: eighty twenty issue where eighty percent of the electorate wants
Speaker 18: violent criminal gang members that are in the country illegally
Speaker 18: out and there's videos showing them going out there and
Speaker 18: they're like fully tattooed and not sympathetic figures at all.
Speaker 18: I think them trying to fight to say, turn that
Speaker 18: plane around, bring them back is not going to play
Speaker 18: well politically for the Democrats.
Speaker 2: If only we could deport violent criminals here as well.
Speaker 2: Coach should tell us about this polling, because most of
Speaker 2: the media cover each that we see about Trump is
Speaker 2: pretty negative, but we hear that he has had his
Speaker 2: highest approval writing ever, movod is saying the US is
Speaker 2: on the right track than any time in the past
Speaker 2: twenty years.
Speaker 1: Tell us about this poll.
Speaker 18: Yeah, so that poll about just the country overall is
Speaker 18: headed in the right direction wrong direction is one of
Speaker 18: the seminal polls in US politics. I think it's been
Speaker 18: measured since nineteen thirty six or something like that, and
Speaker 18: that's always like a great heartbeat of just where the
Speaker 18: country stands, even above and beyond the president. And these
Speaker 18: are really remarkable numbers. I think the last time it
Speaker 18: was this high, I was in two thousand and four,
Speaker 18: and in just September, just a few months ago, it
Speaker 18: was only twenty seven percent of the country thought that
Speaker 18: it was on the right track versus now forty four
Speaker 18: percent or higher depending on different polls, So that's huge.
Speaker 18: I also think Trump's personal best is interesting too, So
Speaker 18: his own approval ratings, while under fifty percent, are the
Speaker 18: highest they've ever been, and that, really, I think is
Speaker 18: a fascinating epilogue to the comeback story that we've been
Speaker 18: reporting about for the better part of last year and
Speaker 18: where he was down in the doldrums after January sixth
Speaker 18: to winning and now you're having that level of approval
Speaker 18: is really quite stunning. It won't last forever. He will falter,
Speaker 18: I'm sure along the way, but so far, so good
Speaker 18: for just not even two months in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty pretty extraordinary. And I think a lot
Speaker 2: of that will hinge on where Russia Ukraine ends up,
Speaker 2: because he said he was going to solve this crisis.
Speaker 2: Let's see, all right, Koshagada, appreciate your time and thanks
Speaker 2: everyone for your company tonight. I'll see you tomorrow at eight,
Speaker 2: looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: And here's Paul in the man Cave.