WEBVTT - Sharri | 17 March 

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<v Speaker 1>Why on Sky News this is Sharry Good Evening tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Gas lighting on a national scale exposed. What did the

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<v Speaker 2>Albanezy government downplay the state of anti Semitic violence for

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<v Speaker 2>election purposes? My thoughts in a moment, and I'll speak

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<v Speaker 2>with Alex Rifchin also in the show. Over one million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars of taxpayer funds wasted on decolonizing breastfeeding Australia's next

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<v Speaker 2>potential doge Jacenta nambajimper Price would join me to on

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<v Speaker 2>earth this absurd spending and Albanezi accused of hypocrisy over

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<v Speaker 2>a one hundred thousand dollars dinner with super donors at

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<v Speaker 2>Aria or the details in a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Week ago today that police stood up at a press

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<v Speaker 2>conference and claimed that a spate of anti Semitic attacks

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<v Speaker 2>was not in fact anti Semitism. They told Australia this

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<v Speaker 2>Vilellan spree was the work of organized crime and not

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<v Speaker 2>driven by an ideological hatred for Jews. Well, these inaccurate

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<v Speaker 2>claims have now landed police in hot water, and there

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<v Speaker 2>are questions about whether there was any political pressure to

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<v Speaker 2>downplay this crisis, because it's now emerged that the figure

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<v Speaker 2>reportedly behind this spate of attacks is sayet Erhan Akka,

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<v Speaker 2>who has praised Hitler, questioned the existence of the Holocaust

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<v Speaker 2>and said that Zionists were at the root of terrorism.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Zionists.

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<v Speaker 2>The Daily Telegraph reports he was arrested in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one with trying to import a commercial quantity of drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>If found guilty, they say Aka could be facing life

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<v Speaker 2>in jail, but he fled while on bail and a

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<v Speaker 2>warrant for his arrest was issued in September twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 2>and according to The Telly, he's been traveling between Asia

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<v Speaker 2>and Turkey ever since.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>As you know, police claimed that anti Semitism wasn't a motivation,

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<v Speaker 2>that it was simply to get a more lenient sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet major revelations in The Australian over the past few

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<v Speaker 2>days that Akka, who is Muslim, has a history of

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<v Speaker 2>making extremely anti Semitic remarks. The OSRA ports that in

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<v Speaker 2>one post, Aka claims that Hitler was only washing earth

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<v Speaker 2>they made him out to be evil. On Facebook, one

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<v Speaker 2>of Aka's Facebook friends named Ronnie, posted a picture of

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<v Speaker 2>the Nazi manifesto. You can see that here with the

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<v Speaker 2>words arians assemble and that was the caption, and then

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<v Speaker 2>underneath it, Aka wrote rise of the Fifth riche Hail Ronnie.

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<v Speaker 2>In another comment that I found when I was looking

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<v Speaker 2>through his social media last night, Aka wrote, getting ready

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<v Speaker 2>for the Arab an Aryan Alliance. The depression is coming, brother,

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<v Speaker 2>the Arab an Aryan Alliance.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Aka's comment was in response to a post about a

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<v Speaker 2>German fire right party becoming the second strongest party at

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<v Speaker 2>the time. Now The Australian reports that separately, Aka posted

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't racist, I have a jew disorder and in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen, Aka wrote on the New South Wales Jewish

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<v Speaker 2>Board of Deputies facebook page, how did six million die

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<v Speaker 2>when only three point two registered Jews in Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time?

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<v Speaker 2>And The Australian reports that the very next day, in

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<v Speaker 2>response to a story about Vandal's targeting the Jewish community

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<v Speaker 2>by spraying swastikas on cars, Akka responded zig Hale.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty sixteen, Aka.

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<v Speaker 2>Blamed Zionism for being the root of terror. He wrote,

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<v Speaker 2>rip to all those innocents that have died in Aleppo

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<v Speaker 2>and around the world in the hands of terrorism, and

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<v Speaker 2>I mean from the root of terrorism America and the

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<v Speaker 2>Zionists taking out these people like Saddam bin Leyden and Gaddafi.

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<v Speaker 1>Look what it started. He also wrote, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Still think nine to eleven was not an inside job

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<v Speaker 2>to start this money making and Muslim massacre process, delete

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<v Speaker 2>yourself now. So clearly a deeply disturbing anti Semitic ideology

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<v Speaker 2>behind the criminal who police allege was targeting the Jewish community.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the Australian newspaper has done a terrific job exposing

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<v Speaker 2>this over the.

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<v Speaker 1>Past few days.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet police publicly claimed a week ago today that anti

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<v Speaker 2>Semitism was not a motivating factor. The AFP Deputy Commissioner

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<v Speaker 2>Chrissy Barrett said the motivation was organized crime and a

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<v Speaker 2>reduced sentence, not anti Semitism. She spoke about wanting to

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<v Speaker 2>give comfort, her words comfort to the Jewish community, and

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<v Speaker 2>she used words like fake.

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<v Speaker 1>And criminal conjob.

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<v Speaker 2>Here were some of those remarks from Chrisy Barrett that

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<v Speaker 2>we now know were misleading and irresponsible.

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<v Speaker 3>It's absolutely reprehensible that criminals would be taking advantage of

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<v Speaker 3>the current environment when we know there is already a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of fear and a lot of anxiousness in the

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<v Speaker 3>environment to be leveraging that for their own benefit.

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<v Speaker 2>At that press conference, New South Wales police backed up

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<v Speaker 2>the view of the AFP.

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<v Speaker 4>But you were saying that they were being carried out

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<v Speaker 4>by people within a so many views, so peop led

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<v Speaker 4>by criminals.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct, And.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't have any evidence that he is being driven

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<v Speaker 6>by I hate you say that it's allege that.

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<v Speaker 5>It's organized crime.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct, that you're saying that they weren't being carried out

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<v Speaker 4>by people within a Semitic view, so being led by criminals.

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<v Speaker 7>Correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, And at no point did the AFPs Chrissy Barrett

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<v Speaker 2>disagree with any of those assessments. That was a joint

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<v Speaker 2>press conference New Southereles police reinforced the view yet again

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<v Speaker 2>in that press conference that anti Semitism wasn't behind the

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<v Speaker 2>spate of attacks.

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<v Speaker 8>So just a question on the arrests that you'd made.

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<v Speaker 8>You said that you didn't believe anti semitism or an ideology.

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<v Speaker 9>For any of those arrested.

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<v Speaker 8>Do you also believe that anti Semitism was not an

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<v Speaker 8>ideology for anyone higher up pulling any industries on any

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<v Speaker 8>of the incidents.

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<v Speaker 7>I think what these organized crime heads have done is

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<v Speaker 7>play to vulnerabilities in the community. Obviously there have been

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<v Speaker 7>anti Semitic attacks of lower nature and a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>anger and angst within the community. We've seen that since

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<v Speaker 7>October seventh, twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Dave Hudson later admitted in budget estimates, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was Dave Hudson, the New Southwales Police Deputy Commissioner. He

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<v Speaker 2>later set in budget estimates that he didn't actually know

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<v Speaker 2>what the motivation was because it was the AFP who'd

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<v Speaker 2>been handling the informant. But this was a major joint

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<v Speaker 2>press conference between the AFP and New South Wales Police

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<v Speaker 2>and make no mistake, antisemitism was categorically ruled out as

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<v Speaker 2>being behind the attacks. Now, this led to a widespread

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<v Speaker 2>view that the antisemitism crisis had been confected, created by

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton and NewsCorp and there was nothing to see.

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<v Speaker 2>And Anthony Alberinezi picked up on the idea of it

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<v Speaker 2>all being a hoax.

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<v Speaker 10>So whilst it was a folks a hoax and the

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<v Speaker 10>motivation was about criminal activities and not related to those issues,

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<v Speaker 10>the fear that it created was very.

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<v Speaker 1>Real, wrong, wrong, wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>So, as I said, the sense is that this has

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<v Speaker 2>been a confected and fake crisis, and you think about

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<v Speaker 2>that word fake. Well, the AFP Deputy Commissioner Chrissy Barrett

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<v Speaker 2>use the word fake seven times in her opening remarks.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we are confident these tip offs were fake. There

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<v Speaker 3>were several people who had different levels of involvement in

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<v Speaker 3>this fake terrorism plot. A number of people have been

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<v Speaker 3>identified as part of this fake terrorism plot. Regardless of

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<v Speaker 3>the motivation of those responsible for this fake plot, those

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<v Speaker 3>creating fake terror threats face being charged for creating fake plots.

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<v Speaker 3>High powered weapons for a fake terror.

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<v Speaker 2>Plot, fake, fake, fake, and that word fake has cut

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<v Speaker 2>through the city. My herold's David Crowe attacked Peter Dutton,

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<v Speaker 2>writing why was he so quick to create a confected

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<v Speaker 2>crisis out of a criminal plot? A nine News reported

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<v Speaker 2>that the entire antisemitism crisis was a hoax.

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<v Speaker 11>So I d Massoui is one of fourteen people arrested

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<v Speaker 11>after the Dural Caravan investigation uncovered the wave of antisemitism

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<v Speaker 11>across our city was a criminal.

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<v Speaker 2>Hoax, and the ABC suggested that maybe the understanding of

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<v Speaker 2>antisemitism should be revised down.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we need to revise down our understanding? The number

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<v Speaker 1>of genuine anti Semitic attacks that have taken place.

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<v Speaker 2>And now there's a whole movement in New South Wales

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<v Speaker 2>Parliament to overturn Premier Chris Mins's hate speech laws. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>there had been political pressure from the Albanese government on

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<v Speaker 2>the Joint Police Task Force to state publicly that this

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a terror attack, to push the narrative that it

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<v Speaker 2>was a hoax. I told you this on Thursday Night's program,

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<v Speaker 2>and so Tony Burke was ready to go with his

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<v Speaker 2>attack lines against Dutton right after the police press conference.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this is part of the Albaneze government's push to

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<v Speaker 2>downplay antisemitism as an issue, to claim there's no national

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<v Speaker 2>security crisis here at all. But we now know categorically

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<v Speaker 2>the alleged mastermind had praised Hitler, blamed Zionism for terrorism

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<v Speaker 2>and said an Arab alliance was coming. Now, the question

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<v Speaker 2>that the Australian newspaper posed on its front page on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>you can see it here. They said, police say attacks

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<v Speaker 2>not motivated by hate. But if this is an antisemitism,

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<v Speaker 2>what is? And that is exactly right. So the Australian

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<v Speaker 2>Federal Police now need to say publicly whether they knew

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<v Speaker 2>about AKUSC commentary when they deliberately downplayed antisemitism as a

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<v Speaker 2>motivating factor behind the attacks, because.

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<v Speaker 1>Either the AFP did know about.

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<v Speaker 2>Akis anti semitism and then misled the public, or the

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<v Speaker 2>AFP didn't know about his social media commentary, in which

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<v Speaker 2>case this is an appalling indictment on the lackluster investigative

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<v Speaker 2>efforts of the AFP. How could journalists at the Australian

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<v Speaker 2>uncover these remarks but not the AFP. Now I asked

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<v Speaker 2>the AFP these questions today. I also asked whether they

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<v Speaker 2>will be apologizing to Australians for their dangerous messaging that

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<v Speaker 2>has in fact exacerbated this crisis. But the AFP would

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<v Speaker 2>an answer. They gave me a statement saying they believe

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<v Speaker 2>the person wanted a change to their criminal status.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, both things can be true.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Alex Riftrin has spoken powerfully about the devastating impact

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<v Speaker 2>that press conference has had. He said it's exposed dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>failings by authorities, political leaders and public figures who chose

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<v Speaker 2>to characterize the fire bombings that hit Jewish targets as

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<v Speaker 2>a hoax or conjob unconnected to anti Semitic ideology, and

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<v Speaker 2>to do so before the investigation had been concluded. He

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<v Speaker 2>said it set off a deluge of anti Semitic conspiracy

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<v Speaker 2>theories about inside jobs and increased harassment and vilification of Jews,

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<v Speaker 2>and Alex will be on the show shortly, but this

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<v Speaker 2>is all extraordinary and deeply disturbing and we have to

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<v Speaker 2>call it out. The black and white evidence shows that

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<v Speaker 2>Akka has made vile anti Semitic remarks, and yet without

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<v Speaker 2>arresting him or even interviewing him, the AFP publicly declared

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<v Speaker 2>that this wave of terror targeting Jewish businesses, schools and

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<v Speaker 2>places of worship was not anti Semitism. This created a

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous denial of anti Semitism in the community and in

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<v Speaker 2>the media, and it emboldened those who never wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>admit that there was a problem in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>It's led to more harassment and more hatred. And we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen this pattern before. The same authorities who told us

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<v Speaker 2>there were no laws broken when a mob at the

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<v Speaker 2>Sydney Opera House chanted f the Jews instead of gas

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<v Speaker 2>the Jews were they're now trying to convince Australia that

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish property being vandalized and firebomb is somehow not anti Semitic.

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<v Speaker 2>This is gas lighting on a national scale. Words matter,

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<v Speaker 2>the language of law enforcement and political leaders matter. Consider

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<v Speaker 2>how the Albanezy government pushed for police to publicly claire

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<v Speaker 2>the caravan wasn't a terror threat, how quick Tony Burke

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<v Speaker 2>was to seize on the police position for political advantage,

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<v Speaker 2>gleefully attacking Dutton. And you have to wonder is this

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<v Speaker 2>political expediency? Could the Albanezy government actually stoop so low

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<v Speaker 2>as to downplay this serious issue because.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on the eve of an election.

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<v Speaker 2>Australia's leaders, entrusted with all of our safety and all

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<v Speaker 2>of our national security, have showed cowardice an indifference on

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<v Speaker 2>this crisis from the.

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<v Speaker 1>Very beginning and now right before the election.

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<v Speaker 2>Law enforcement positions a state of very serious and violent

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<v Speaker 2>attacks as a hoax, as fake, a fake threat, despite

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<v Speaker 2>the fact lives could have been lost and it's lucky

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't.

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<v Speaker 1>This entire saga is not over.

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<v Speaker 2>There is more to come and we will not allow

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<v Speaker 2>those in control to bury the truth. Okay, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to be joined by Alex Rifchin in a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>to speak about that. But now let's bring in Liberal

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<v Speaker 2>Senator Holly Hughes and Sky News contributor Joe Hildebrand.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome, here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to come back to that topic, but I

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<v Speaker 2>want to get through or talk about some of the

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<v Speaker 2>other big stories today because tonight the Prime Minister is

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<v Speaker 2>being condemned as tone deaf yet again. Aaron Patrick in

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<v Speaker 2>The Nightly reports that the Prime Minister attended one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars fundraising dinner with super donors at the Elite

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<v Speaker 2>Ariat restaurant and you can see here photographs of the

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister arriving. Pretty extraordinary. They were there to capture

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<v Speaker 2>the moment and Holly. The article points out that this

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<v Speaker 2>as most Australians are dealing with the cost of living

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<v Speaker 2>crisis and the hypocrisy here is a pertinent one given

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<v Speaker 2>Alban Eazy was attack Dutton for a fundraiser just last week.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, I think it's the fact that they were attacking

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<v Speaker 12>Peter Dutton for attending to a fundraiser.

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<v Speaker 1>The night before.

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<v Speaker 12>In fact, it was supposed to be on the same night.

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<v Speaker 12>It turned out that they moved this function in the

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<v Speaker 12>area by one night. I wonder where Murray Watt is today.

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<v Speaker 12>He was sent out as the yapping dogs last week

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<v Speaker 12>to attend to attack Dutton. And we have a major

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<v Speaker 12>day with CFMU News and he is workplace Relations and

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<v Speaker 12>he was the attack dog sent out to attack Dutton

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<v Speaker 12>for attending a fundraiser. And they're very quiet today. I mean,

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<v Speaker 12>the thing about this Labor government, if they didn't have

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<v Speaker 12>double standards, they wouldn't have any standards at all. And

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<v Speaker 12>this is just another example of their absolute betrayal of

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<v Speaker 12>the Australian people and how they continually undermine anyone's faith

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<v Speaker 12>in government and the political process because of their own

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<v Speaker 12>poor behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe is very rare for.

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<v Speaker 2>Media to actually capture images of peace arriving for such

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<v Speaker 2>a small elite fundraising dinner like this. But look, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to admit it's not a good look. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a very fancy restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, their.

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<v Speaker 2>Bottles of champagne go up to ten thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Two hundred and fifty.

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<v Speaker 13>Dollars would be paying literally one thousandth of that for

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<v Speaker 13>my plank. Yeah, look at fundraisers are never a good look.

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<v Speaker 13>Both parties have them in the lead up and especially

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<v Speaker 13>so obviously in the lead up to elections. It never

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<v Speaker 13>looks particularly well, I don't think. And you know, good

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<v Speaker 13>on the you know, good on the Nightly forgetting the

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<v Speaker 13>yard that's great, but I don't think the two are comparable.

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<v Speaker 13>The PM only attended this fundraiser yesterday on Sunday after

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<v Speaker 13>delaying it for more than a week because it was

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<v Speaker 13>because of Cyclone Alfred. The allegation or the who had

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<v Speaker 13>that was kicked up about Peter Dutton attending a fundraiser

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<v Speaker 13>in Justin Hems's Place on the Harbor was that it

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<v Speaker 13>was in the middle of Cyclone Alfred and that was in.

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<v Speaker 1>Four days topical psycho.

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<v Speaker 13>Tropical low Alfred. But that followed Peter Dutton criticizing the

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<v Speaker 13>PM and saying he would be tone deaf if he

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<v Speaker 13>called an election. So it was just a process of

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<v Speaker 13>tit for tat.

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<v Speaker 12>But it's also on the back of Albaneze skipping out

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<v Speaker 12>of Parliament going up to Far North Queensland for the

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<v Speaker 12>floods because he had to go early in the morning,

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<v Speaker 12>and it turns out he had to go early in

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<v Speaker 12>the morning, not stand up for the people of Australia,

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<v Speaker 12>not answer questions in question time, which is his job.

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<v Speaker 12>He went up there, got a private plane doesn't have

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<v Speaker 12>to go commercial routes, and then was on the ground

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<v Speaker 12>in Far North Queensland for a couple of hours because

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<v Speaker 12>he had to get the plane back to Brisbane for

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<v Speaker 12>a big labor fundraiser that night in Brisbane. And I

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<v Speaker 12>think maybe this is where the Labor government. You know,

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<v Speaker 12>everyone does have fundraisers. It's an election, but the fact

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<v Speaker 12>that Labor is so desperate that their record is so

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<v Speaker 12>bad that they are so keen to attacked up and

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<v Speaker 12>for absolutely anything, Yet their own form is there to

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<v Speaker 12>see and if they don't want their own form called out,

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<v Speaker 12>if they don't want the wh hypocrisy at least Peter

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<v Speaker 12>Dutton wasn't zipn around in the VIP and skipping out

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<v Speaker 12>of pot in the same way out.

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<v Speaker 13>Though it was fired by Peter Dutton when he basically

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<v Speaker 13>boxed elbow into a corner and said, if you call

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<v Speaker 13>an election during this.

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<v Speaker 9>Emergency event which have just.

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<v Speaker 2>Downplayed to be fair Joe treasure Treasurer Jim Chalmers was

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<v Speaker 2>also telling the Prime Minister behind the scenes the election.

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<v Speaker 13>I was saying it would be a terrible idea as well.

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<v Speaker 13>But Peter Dutton was clearly making a bit of political

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<v Speaker 13>hay with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, let's let's keep let's have a look at some

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<v Speaker 2>of the other stories tonight. Dutton has hinted that income

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<v Speaker 2>tax cuts could be on the agenda and the Coalitions,

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<v Speaker 2>pointing to research showing that the average Australian had to

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<v Speaker 2>pay three and a half thousand dollars more intacts last

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<v Speaker 2>financial year compared to before Albanizi became Prime minister.

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<v Speaker 1>Holly, what are you hearing about?

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously he can't announce it, al buter, what are you

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<v Speaker 2>hearing about the possibility that the Coalition is lanning to

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<v Speaker 2>announce income tax cuts.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, the election hasn't been called yet and we're not

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<v Speaker 12>going to be pressured into making announcements just because the

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<v Speaker 12>Labor Government wants to jump up and down or the

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<v Speaker 12>ABC wants to jump up and down. But Australians are

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<v Speaker 12>being slugged considerably more in income tax. And you know,

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<v Speaker 12>you can argue whatever you like, and we all know

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<v Speaker 12>everything's gone up. We know standard of livings have gone down,

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<v Speaker 12>we know all of the cost pressures that Australian families

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<v Speaker 12>are experiencing. But the other figure that people need to understand.

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<v Speaker 12>When the Coalition left government, the percentage of their income

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<v Speaker 12>that most Australians were paying in tax was around twenty

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<v Speaker 12>three percent. It is now about to tip into twenty

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<v Speaker 12>seven percent under this government. So even while they sprout,

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<v Speaker 12>everyone got a tax cut under this government, the majority

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<v Speaker 12>of Australians. The average amount of tax being paid by

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<v Speaker 12>Australians has increased by four percent under this government's watch.

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<v Speaker 12>And I can tell you the one thing that coalition

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<v Speaker 12>government will do without it making any sort of big

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<v Speaker 12>announcement is cut some of the wasteful spending that we

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<v Speaker 12>are consistently seeing from this government that is leading to

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<v Speaker 12>these cost of living and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm speaking to just Enterprice about that a bit later

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<v Speaker 2>in the show. Now, you remember at the last election,

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<v Speaker 2>Albnezi made a big song and dance about having an

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<v Speaker 2>anti corruption watchdog, Well, what is.

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<v Speaker 1>It actually done in the past three years?

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<v Speaker 12>Same as your two hundred and seventy fivevial reduction.

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<v Speaker 2>There is serially in reports today that there are even

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<v Speaker 2>calls to replace the Commissioner, Paul Brereton. Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been operating for you know, yeah, it hasn't.

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<v Speaker 13>I always thought this was a really stupid idea and

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<v Speaker 13>there was always going to tell kind of administrative wide

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<v Speaker 13>elephant there is. There has not been any real wholesale

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<v Speaker 13>evidence of endemic corruption at a federal level, and people said, oh,

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<v Speaker 13>that's because we haven't had a watch dog to exit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so different from SATs.

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<v Speaker 13>The opportunities just don't exist. I'm sure they don't be

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<v Speaker 13>in and up to their next.

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<v Speaker 1>In the wrong level of.

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<v Speaker 2>There's plenty of corrupt conduct going on. I say that

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<v Speaker 2>as a journalist, but we haven't heard.

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<v Speaker 13>The sort of the sort of correct. It's not just

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<v Speaker 13>they're all squeaky clean and moral cure. What's obviously everyone

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<v Speaker 13>is on the labor side. The others I can't speak for, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that always works very well out for you, Joe Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>come on the right.

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<v Speaker 12>But the way they've kept me, the opportunities.

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<v Speaker 13>For corruption are much much, much greater in state and

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<v Speaker 13>local government than they are in federal government. It's just

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<v Speaker 13>harder to be corrupt in the federal system because you

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<v Speaker 13>have to do things like, you know, giving out giving out

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<v Speaker 13>tenders to.

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<v Speaker 1>You for curemens.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that the agency hasn't had many corruption findings

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean the corruption's not happening. It means they've been

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<v Speaker 2>ineffective or a truthless tiger. There is one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 12>Well, we saw a two point four or two point

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<v Speaker 12>three million dollar payment made to Britney Higgins in warp Speed.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying that was referred.

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<v Speaker 12>But that's been referred and there's been nothing done say that.

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<v Speaker 13>Okay, you could say that's inappropriate, or it's excessive, or

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<v Speaker 13>there wasn't enough you know, transparency or due diligence. But

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<v Speaker 13>is anyone seriously saying that, you know, the Attorney General

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<v Speaker 13>took a kick back to hand out that money. Of

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<v Speaker 13>course not.

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<v Speaker 12>But the political pain is creating a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of problem.

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<v Speaker 13>But that is the sort of stuff that the state

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<v Speaker 13>corruption watch dogs look into. People taking money in exchange

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<v Speaker 13>for political decisions, that is the definition of it. And

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<v Speaker 13>there is just no real evidence that there's any kind

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<v Speaker 13>of widespread there. There might be a decisions you disagree with,

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<v Speaker 13>and there might be people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's again, it's more that we haven't seen them take

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<v Speaker 2>any action. It's not the fact that that behavior isn't

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<v Speaker 2>there in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not the case.

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<v Speaker 13>But anyway, it's hard to know in what way it

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<v Speaker 13>could be.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Joe Hildebrand Holly Hughes A. Right, let's return

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<v Speaker 2>to our top story now, the bombshell findings around the

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<v Speaker 2>trove of Andy Semitic slurs by the alleged caravan Terra

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<v Speaker 2>plot mastermind. And let's bring in Executive Council of Australian

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<v Speaker 2>Jury co CEO Alex Riftin.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for joining us once again.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, what's your reaction to the fact that police came

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<v Speaker 2>out a week ago and said anti Semitism wasn't a

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<v Speaker 2>motivating factor and now we see all this evidence in

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<v Speaker 2>the Australian Well, it.

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<v Speaker 14>Was really disappointing, Shrry because the police, we know, want

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<v Speaker 14>to keep us safe. We know they've devoted immense resources

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<v Speaker 14>and manpower to hunting these people, to solving the crimes.

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<v Speaker 14>We know they want to keep the Jewish community in

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<v Speaker 14>wider society at peace and harmony. We know this, and

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<v Speaker 14>they did fantastic work in making arrests and investigating these

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<v Speaker 14>five bombings and the Dural incident as well. But they

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<v Speaker 14>seem to have undone that fine work with their communication.

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<v Speaker 14>And like you said at the outset, words matter and

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<v Speaker 14>we have to understand that the revelations from these investigations

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<v Speaker 14>were incredibly serious. We learned then, in addition to everything

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<v Speaker 14>we faced over the past seventeen months, the docs and

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<v Speaker 14>the vilification, the harassment, everything happening at schools and universities

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<v Speaker 14>and the medical system, and support for terrorism and street abuse.

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<v Speaker 9>On of all that, you now have.

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<v Speaker 14>Hardened criminals hanging off lowly hoodlands to set fire to

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<v Speaker 14>our buildings and cars and set out streets ablaze with

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<v Speaker 14>reckless disregard for what happens. And it's a miracle that

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<v Speaker 14>no one was killed. But for some reason the police

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<v Speaker 14>and announcing chose to completely downplay it, refer to it

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<v Speaker 14>as a con job and a fake and all these

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<v Speaker 14>sorts of things, and predictably that set off the whole

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<v Speaker 14>stream of conspiracy theories about a masade hit and an

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<v Speaker 14>inside job, and all those negative actors who for seventeen

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<v Speaker 14>months have sought to downplay with deni anti Semitism were

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<v Speaker 14>given this immense gift. And why they chose to do that,

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<v Speaker 14>why they chose to undermine their wonderful police work, is

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<v Speaker 14>really beyond.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, do you think it's similar to the gas

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<v Speaker 2>the Jews commentary when police again took something that was

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<v Speaker 2>so vile on the steps of the opera house and

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<v Speaker 2>said there was basically no issue because the words were

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<v Speaker 2>kill the Jews, not gas the Jews.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, you know, in contrast, I think the gas the

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<v Speaker 14>Jews incident now looks trivial and like a mere peculiarity.

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<v Speaker 14>Given the magnitude of this announcement and the words they

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<v Speaker 14>used in this case, I think the implications have been

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<v Speaker 14>far greater.

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<v Speaker 9>With gas the Jews. Where's the Jews?

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<v Speaker 14>I thought that was a dubious thing for the police

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<v Speaker 14>to do, to effectively try to exculpate those who are

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<v Speaker 14>chanting those words and bold us down in a dispute

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<v Speaker 14>about whether it was where's the Jews or gas Jews,

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<v Speaker 14>as though one was better than the other.

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<v Speaker 9>That was peculiar.

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<v Speaker 14>But this has really broken the momentum in terms of

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<v Speaker 14>trying to actually fight anti Semitism and deliver solutions to

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<v Speaker 14>the anti semitism crisis and a national security crisis. And

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<v Speaker 14>as I mentioned, it's allowed negative actors who have tried

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<v Speaker 14>to downplay this whole time to now galvanize and to

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<v Speaker 14>try to dampen all the momentum and the enthusiasm for

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<v Speaker 14>actually solving this problem.

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<v Speaker 9>So it's really incredibly disappointing.

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<v Speaker 2>And now there's a push to repeal hate speech laws

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<v Speaker 2>in your South. I was parliament Alix, you and your

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<v Speaker 2>organization have been calling for tougher laws for years, and

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, your organization has had to take civil action

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<v Speaker 2>because the current laws are so inadequate.

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<v Speaker 14>That's right, and it didn't begin on October seven. For

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<v Speaker 14>many years, we've seen on occasion extreme clerics and others

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<v Speaker 14>trying to effectively revive medieval hatreds and bring fign conflicts

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<v Speaker 14>to our streets, inciting their followers to menace the Jewish

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<v Speaker 14>community and to commit acts of violence.

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<v Speaker 9>And for a long time.

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<v Speaker 14>We've advocated for stricter laws against incitement of this sort.

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<v Speaker 14>It's not about speech, it's not about the exchange of ideas.

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<v Speaker 14>We're talking about words that are intended to incite hatred

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<v Speaker 14>and violence in our communities.

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<v Speaker 9>That's something extremely serious.

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<v Speaker 14>And after October seven, we of course saw a whole

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<v Speaker 14>series of clerics again glorifying the Hamas attacks, encouraging the

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<v Speaker 14>followers to do likewise, speaking specifically of Jews in the

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<v Speaker 14>most violent hatred terms imaginable, and there's no real remedy criminally,

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<v Speaker 14>and so my organization was forced to be reaction under

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<v Speaker 14>secuity in SEID the Racial Discrimination Act, which really for

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<v Speaker 14>the sources of grave incidents that we're seeing is not

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<v Speaker 14>the adequate remedy.

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<v Speaker 9>And these laws.

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<v Speaker 14>Again, it's a byproduct of the language used by the

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<v Speaker 14>police in discounting antisymptism as a motive, because now we're

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<v Speaker 14>seeing these attacks on the Premier of New South Wales,

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<v Speaker 14>he's being accused of rushing through these laws as a

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<v Speaker 14>knee jerk reaction to duel, when in fact these laws

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<v Speaker 14>have been brewing for many, many years and are badly needed.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed they are now.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex, I want to ask you about the outcomes from

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<v Speaker 2>our anti Semitism summit a few weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Now now you.

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<v Speaker 2>Wrote to Peter Dutton, he's publicly said that he would

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<v Speaker 2>commit to every single one of the action points that

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<v Speaker 2>do have that fall under federal remit. Now you've also

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<v Speaker 2>written to the Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi. Have you heard

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<v Speaker 2>back yet about whether he'll implement the action plan?

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<v Speaker 14>Not as if yet and we eagerly wait that response because,

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<v Speaker 14>particularly in light of what's happened in the last week

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<v Speaker 14>or so, with the diminishing of antisemitism as a priority issue,

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<v Speaker 14>I think it's incumbent on the Prime Minister to respond

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<v Speaker 14>to those fifteen points, which are all reasonable, which deal

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<v Speaker 14>with both the short term and the long term issues

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<v Speaker 14>that give rise to antisemitism, which will restore societal harmony

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<v Speaker 14>to our great country. And we need the premise to

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<v Speaker 14>take a position on this and to show whether the

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<v Speaker 14>fight against antisemitism can be something that unifies the major

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<v Speaker 14>parties and unify a society or whether there's a clear

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<v Speaker 14>difference between the two major parties and how they view

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<v Speaker 14>antisemitism and how they seek to combat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hopefully we do get an answer from the Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister because, as you said, that action point is still

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<v Speaker 2>desperately needed despite the current attempts to downplay this whole crisis. Alex,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you so much once again for your strong advocacy.

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Now after the break, a million dollars in taxpayer funds

0:29:55.040 --> 0:30:00.239
<v Speaker 2>spent on decolonizing breastfeeding Australia's next doge potentially if they

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<v Speaker 2>win the election, just into Nampijibber Price would join me

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 2>on the show. Plus a zealous climate campaigner defends his

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 2>fancy private jet purpose. The hypocrisy is shocking. Find out

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 2>who this is. After the break, welcome back, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Just Enterprise will be on the show shortly to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the Albanezi government spending taxpayer funds on projects like

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 2>decolonizing breastfeeding. But first, climate crusader Mike cannon Brooks has

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<v Speaker 2>defended his purchase of a private jet, emit a pretty

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 2>comprehensive backdrop of green energy evangelism. He's conceded he's feeling

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 2>a deep internal conflict.

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<v Speaker 1>That must be a tough struggle for him.

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 2>But he said it was so he can run a

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 2>global business from Australia and still be a constantly present dad. Now,

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Barnaby Joyce has gone on air calling him a total

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 2>and other hypocrite. Let's bring now our panel to see

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 2>what they think. Headline Advisory Director Andrew Carswell and GXO

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<v Speaker 2>Strategies Director Camerine Milner. Welcome to you both. So Andrew,

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<v Speaker 2>what is this? Carbon emissions are bad Unless it means

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 2>you can be a good dad, then don't worry about

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<v Speaker 2>the environment.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh look, char if.

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<v Speaker 15>We're talking about, you know, the most amusing story of

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<v Speaker 15>the year so far, and this one's going to be

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 15>top three. I mean, this is a billionaire that's effectively

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 15>gone out in the street wearing sackcloth and pouring ashes

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 15>on his head and asking forgiveness for buying a private jet.

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<v Speaker 15>I mean have you ever seen someone so sad about

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 15>buying a seventy million dollar private jet. It's got to

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 15>be the self flagellation of the century. But the thing

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<v Speaker 15>I love about this most is his own words are

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<v Speaker 15>the very people that he's been fighting against for years

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<v Speaker 15>on climate action. And I don't know if I owned

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<v Speaker 15>a coal minor, if I owned a gas field, I

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 15>would be writing down those very words and putting them

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<v Speaker 15>on my wall as proof the gospel according to Big Mike.

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<v Speaker 15>And some of the phrases are just amazing. Here's one

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 15>here is striking. The balance between pragmatism and ambition is hard.

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<v Speaker 15>Here here, well done, thanks for getting there. And what

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<v Speaker 15>about this? And we know climate isn't a zero sum game.

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 15>The truth will set you free.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed, Andrew.

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<v Speaker 2>But Cameron, I mean, I don't know the exact figures,

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 2>so I could be wrong here, but you'd imagine that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, one return trip from here to the US

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<v Speaker 2>would probably be the equivalent climate admissions that an average

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:37.200
<v Speaker 2>family in western Sydney would spend.

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<v Speaker 1>In a whole year.

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 2>And yet he lectures everyone else about you know, effectively

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<v Speaker 2>paying more.

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<v Speaker 16>Don't you love hypocrisy?

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 9>Writ Large?

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<v Speaker 16>I mean when you have a proselytizing climate change bid

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:53.479
<v Speaker 16>in air, preaching to working class people. We've got to

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<v Speaker 16>drop everything off like this and you know, and return

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 16>to sackcloths. But it's okay for his Boeing private jet

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 16>that he agonizes agonizes over Sharik. Which one thing I

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 16>love though is he has a green stripe down the

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 16>side of it. Yet you've got a green stripe pain

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:07.959
<v Speaker 16>down side of it, obviously, because that obviously makes it

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 16>better that he's jetting around the world in this thing. Now, look,

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 16>this is just our hypocrisy rit large. He's been caught

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 16>out for it and his excuses simply are good enough.

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<v Speaker 2>No, indeed completely agree and seriously being a good doubt,

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 2>come on, get off.

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<v Speaker 1>You can be a good dub.

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<v Speaker 2>Without the project the children, Yes, exactly. Now, for the

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 2>second week in a row, Malcolm Turbull has intervened in

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 2>the political debate. Today he criticized Orcus. You've probably heard

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:36.959
<v Speaker 2>the comments by now. He's also condemned Peter Dutton for

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 2>refusing to support Albanezi and offering up a peacekeeping force.

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Our troops in Ukraine.

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Now, Andrew Turnbull just can't stay away and we're probably

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 2>going to see more of him in the when the

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 2>election campaign kicks off, because the last thing Turnbull once

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 2>is Dutton his enemy becoming prime minister.

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<v Speaker 15>Yeah, I mean, this man is a dick to seeing

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<v Speaker 15>his own name in newspapers and on TV. He's addicted

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 15>to giving deep and moaningful interviews on ABC radio and TV.

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<v Speaker 15>We've got to remember, as you said, he views Peter

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 15>Dutton with enormous suspicion and holds him ultimately responsible for

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 15>his downfall as Prime minister. It was Peter Dutton that

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 15>initially made the moves against him exactly, so he sees

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 15>this as an opportunity to get his revenge. This is

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 15>a man that has built his entire career on the

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 15>back of revenge, on the back of getting even He's

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 15>done that throughout his entire political life, but also his

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 15>business career as well. It is it's his motors operandi.

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 15>And you know he's coming to get Peter Dutton in

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 15>this campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>And when we at the time just reported the news

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 2>that Dutton was considering a leadership challenge against Turnbull, all

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 2>of Channel nine and Turnbull and everyone blamed NewsCorp just

0:34:57.080 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 2>for reporting the story. Now, ca we've seen Turnbull's intervention.

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 2>But what about your old boss, Bill Shorten, Because here

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 2>came out on Friday with some comments, some advice maybe

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 2>for alban easy about trade tariffs. So are we going

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:15.000
<v Speaker 2>to see more of Bill Shorton as well in this

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 2>election campaign?

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 3>Look?

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<v Speaker 16>I think we are, and I think Bill's got a

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 16>very big role. Obviously it's a vice chance for a

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:24.640
<v Speaker 16>significant university and it's up to him to make public comment.

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 16>But let's make the difference here. I mean, Malcolm Turble

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 16>is always about Malcolm. Bill's point was that tariffs have

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 16>to be on the table, and that's what Keis Starmer said,

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 16>It's what every other Western nation has said. And response

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 16>to Trump only weak elbow only week Albo has said,

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:39.320
<v Speaker 16>oh no I won't touch tariff's. I won't touch it.

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<v Speaker 16>They're not even on the table now, Donald, you know,

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 16>please come and see me. I mean, the reality of

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:45.280
<v Speaker 16>what Bill said was tariff should be on the table.

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<v Speaker 16>The difference though is that Malcolm is only ever about Malcolm.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's have a look at the new polling today.

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<v Speaker 2>Freshwater polling shows the L and P head of Labor

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:57.520
<v Speaker 2>still on the two party preferred metric. That's fifty one

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:02.240
<v Speaker 2>to forty nine. It shows the Coalitions re vote slipped slightly.

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 2>It's now thirty nine percent. Labour's is thirty one percent. Andrew,

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:11.280
<v Speaker 2>you worked with Scott Morrison when everyone thought he'd lose

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:13.280
<v Speaker 2>the twenty nineteen election.

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you think there's some similarities now? What do you

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 1>think of Peter Dutton's prospects?

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 15>Well, certainly, if there's an election this weekend, Shari, then

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 15>you would see a Labor minority government, and probably a

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:30.879
<v Speaker 15>deep one at that. Look, clearly Labor has some momentum back.

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Finally.

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 15>They spent the last three years trying to get momentum

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 15>by all manner of different things, but they've actually got

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 15>a bit momentum now. A little bit of that is

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 15>from interest rate, a little bit of that is from

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:45.719
<v Speaker 15>the medicare policy they had, but most of it has

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 15>come through a concerted effort to bring down Peter Dutton,

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 15>whether that be through earned media hit jobs or a

0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:57.319
<v Speaker 15>two million dollar paid advertising blitz against Peter Dutton. Peter

0:36:57.400 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 15>Dutton is all they want to talk about. They don't

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 15>to talk about the economy because it's in the toilet.

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:04.040
<v Speaker 15>They don't want to talk about the budget necessarily because

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 15>it's covered with red ink. All they've got to talk

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 15>about is Petter Dutton. It's the first thing they think

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 15>about when they wake up, it's the last thing they

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 15>think about when they go to bed. All they want

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 15>to talk about is peit of Dutton. The question is

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 15>whether this is going to keep alarming people over the

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 15>long term. I think people naturally will get sick of it,

0:37:20.280 --> 0:37:22.359
<v Speaker 15>particularly this far out from an election. If you keep

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 15>going down this path of negativity, negativity, negativity, it's going

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 15>to wear pretty thin.

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<v Speaker 2>There's also the budget which we now are going to have.

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, the government at Albanezi certainly didn't want to have.

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't planning for it.

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Cameron.

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 2>We heard the Treasurer to say, We heard the treasure

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 2>today say that the impact from ext tropical cyclone Alfred

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 2>it'll be around one point two billion dollar hit to

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 2>the budget bottom line. So is this softening the ground

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 2>for the budget position being worse than expected?

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<v Speaker 16>Well, I think if you look at my EFA which

0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 16>Jim Chalmers brought down December, the numbers aren't going to

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.240
<v Speaker 16>get any better Shahi in March for the full budget.

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:04.320
<v Speaker 16>And it's certainly certainly the case that Alba want to

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 16>avoid a full budget all costs. But I think it's

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:09.400
<v Speaker 16>a real opportunity for Charmers to shine. I mean, Charmers

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 16>is doing the work as treasurer to shape up the

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 16>budget in a week's time, he'll deliver that and the

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:17.399
<v Speaker 16>shape and the big contest between Charmers, who I think

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 16>is really on the money as a treasurer, and the

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 16>flop and the flake that is Angus Taylor as the

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:25.320
<v Speaker 16>shadow treasurer will be the huge problem with his campaign.

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<v Speaker 16>Every time Angers Taylor's out there with a new hairdoo,

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<v Speaker 16>Jim Charms out there doing the real hard work as

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<v Speaker 16>a treasurer. So that's the difference, and I think that

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<v Speaker 16>contrast will be something we'll see throughout the campaign, right

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<v Speaker 16>through to the May election.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Carswell is at a fair characterization flake for Angus Taylor?

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<v Speaker 15>No, it's not, and the Coalition will have more to

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<v Speaker 15>say on their economic policies as a little ection draws closer.

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<v Speaker 15>The thing about Jim though, he's got it. He's usually

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<v Speaker 15>very good salesman, but he's got He's got a budget

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 15>that is absolutely covered in reading to sell that there

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<v Speaker 15>are no goodies in this budget.

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<v Speaker 1>Beyond a little.

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<v Speaker 15>Bit of help with energy bills, there's deficits to near eternity.

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<v Speaker 15>There's record government spending which the public are becoming suspicious with.

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<v Speaker 15>So it's really selling the unsellable. And yes he might

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<v Speaker 15>be the best salersman of the government, but it's a

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<v Speaker 15>very very tough sale heading into a campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Andrew Carswell, Cameron Milner, great to see you

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<v Speaker 2>as always for our political panel on a Monday now

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 2>after the break law, students told they could fail exams

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<v Speaker 2>if they're welcome to country is underwhelming, or if they

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<v Speaker 2>refuse to acknowledge traditional owners, plus the absurd projects funded

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<v Speaker 2>by your taxpayer dollars. Just into Namber jimper Price would

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<v Speaker 2>joined me after this quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back or just into Namba. Jimper Price could potentially

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<v Speaker 1>be the.

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<v Speaker 2>Next Doze of Australia, our nation's answer to Elon Musk,

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<v Speaker 2>and such a role is unfortunately needed. The Sunday Telly

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<v Speaker 2>reports that your taxpayer dollars are finding over a million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars on decolonizing breastfeeding nearly nine hundred thousand dollars on

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<v Speaker 2>the mouth as an expression of racial injustice. Over three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred grand on subverting souvenir teatowers and eighteen thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>on a drag experiment. We're joining us now to discuss

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<v Speaker 2>this shadow Indigenous Australians. Minister just into Navagin for price,

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<v Speaker 2>just into thank you very much for your time. What

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<v Speaker 2>even is decolonizing breastfeeding?

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<v Speaker 1>It just is so absurd.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, it is absolutely absurd.

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<v Speaker 6>And again it goes back to this concept that somehow

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<v Speaker 6>First Nations people, Indigenous Australians have to be treated differently

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<v Speaker 6>to the rest of the country and for some reason

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<v Speaker 6>the concept of breastfeeding has been colonized and needs to

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<v Speaker 6>be decolonized. I mean, I don't know why we're not

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<v Speaker 6>supporting programs that take an approach to support mothers in

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<v Speaker 6>general in terms of how to take care of their

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<v Speaker 6>children with breastfeeding and those sorts of issues and concerns.

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<v Speaker 6>But these grants were found by the Menzies Research Center.

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<v Speaker 5>They've been doing a rafter work. They're about twenty one grants.

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<v Speaker 6>That they have found that have been identified and sub

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<v Speaker 6>got to my attention and to the Coalition's attention. The

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<v Speaker 6>Prime Minister needs to explain why he thinks these grants

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<v Speaker 6>are a valuable spend of tax payers money because where

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sitting, I'm just scratching my head at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I know the examples of waste are so absurd, and

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<v Speaker 2>yet we have seen Peter Dutton and you as well

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<v Speaker 2>face criticism when you've announced your plans to look at

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<v Speaker 2>the waste and to actually cut the public service. Gise,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to ask you about this report in

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<v Speaker 2>Today's Australian that revealed law students at Macquarie University Law

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<v Speaker 2>School may fail an exam if they perform an underwhelm

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledgment of country or even refuse to acknowledge the traditional

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<v Speaker 2>aborage or owners at all.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your view of this.

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<v Speaker 5>It's quite disgraceful.

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<v Speaker 6>I think you know, the whole concept of welcome to

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<v Speaker 6>country is a reinvention of culture if you like the

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<v Speaker 6>fact that it is being imposed upon university students in

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<v Speaker 6>their educational institutions, especially when it's being implanted into courses

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<v Speaker 6>that actually don't have anything to do with indigenous culture,

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<v Speaker 6>history or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 5>This is pure indoctrination. It's not education. It's something that

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<v Speaker 5>we as a coalition have a plan to ensure does

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<v Speaker 5>not go ahead. And I know that my wonderful colleagues

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<v Speaker 5>Sarah Henderson is doing a rafter work in this space.

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<v Speaker 6>As we know when we've been looking at anti semitism

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<v Speaker 6>also within universities, that we can't continue to push these

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<v Speaker 6>ideals onto.

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<v Speaker 5>Students, and they should be there if they're right to

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<v Speaker 5>have an education and not be indoctrinated.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear so many examples of the parents of university

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<v Speaker 2>students telling me that their kids know that they have

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<v Speaker 2>to give what is seen as the right answer when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to taking a particular position in a subject essay,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what the topic, because otherwise they'll get marked.

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<v Speaker 1>Down for it.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the end of the day, the students are

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<v Speaker 2>there to get good marks, to succeed and get a job. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the idea that university is are stifling freedom

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<v Speaker 2>of thought is very disturbing.

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<v Speaker 1>You just mentioned Yeah, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>Sorry, I was just going to say, I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>also hearing from students as well.

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<v Speaker 5>I think this is really just the tip of the iceberg,

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<v Speaker 5>and we will.

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<v Speaker 6>Probably uncover a lot more than just this in terms

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<v Speaker 6>of what universities are subjecting students to exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we do need a oral commission into it today.

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton committed thirty five million dollars if he wins

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<v Speaker 2>the election to restore the adasses Or Synagogue in Melbourne,

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<v Speaker 2>which was firebomb last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Here he was today.

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<v Speaker 17>Coalition government would provide funding of up to thirty five

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<v Speaker 17>million dollars to provide support to build back. As James

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<v Speaker 17>pointed out before, this synagogue, this center, and this wonderful

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<v Speaker 17>contributor to life here in the local community.

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<v Speaker 8>We want to bring it back to life.

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<v Speaker 1>Jisinda.

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<v Speaker 2>I was actually quite shocked in the past few months

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<v Speaker 2>to see that the Albertezy government hasn't made an equivalent promise.

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<v Speaker 6>No, well, actually I'm not terribly shocked in terms of

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<v Speaker 6>this government's actions.

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<v Speaker 5>Albanesi has failed at a number.

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<v Speaker 6>Of levels to address anti Semitism in our country. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>Peter Dutton came out when we saw what was happening

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<v Speaker 6>on October seven and the horrible things that occurred on

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<v Speaker 6>the Opera House, and ever since Peter Dutton has on

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<v Speaker 6>a line clearly in the sand that we do not

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<v Speaker 6>accept anti Semitism, terrorism and that level of violence within

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<v Speaker 6>our country.

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<v Speaker 5>The Prime Minister. It is shameful that the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 5>has failed to.

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<v Speaker 6>Even make any kind of commitment towards restoring the synagogue

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<v Speaker 6>or any other commitment toward tackling anti Semitism with any

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<v Speaker 6>real depth or a way that's going to be to

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<v Speaker 6>ensure that our Jewish community feels like they can be

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<v Speaker 6>safe in Australia in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't have the exact figures at hand, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's committed something like two hundred thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>but nowhere near in the scale of thirty five million

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<v Speaker 2>that died in did today just send to really appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>your time as.

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<v Speaker 1>Always, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, Despite overwhelmingly bad media coverage, Donald Trump hits

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<v Speaker 2>his highest approval rating ever.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk about that with Kosher Gada.

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<v Speaker 2>Next, all right, and to finish up, let's have a

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<v Speaker 2>look at the US and Skynese contributed Koshagada joins me. Now, Kosha,

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and fifty accused migrant gang members have been

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<v Speaker 2>deported to Ol Salvador.

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<v Speaker 1>But this could be illegal.

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<v Speaker 2>It is illegal, that's in contravention of the federal judges

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<v Speaker 2>ruling against Trump on this.

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<v Speaker 1>Will there be any ramifications.

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<v Speaker 18>You know, legally, Shari, It's hard to see that there

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<v Speaker 18>will be, because what the Trump team's argument is, in

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<v Speaker 18>terms of the narrow legal question that the judge's ruling

0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:34.880
<v Speaker 18>was talking about, is jurisdictional. The executive order that the

0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 18>Trump team based this on is basing it on some

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<v Speaker 18>statue from the eighteenth century that the judge is challenging

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<v Speaker 18>whether or not that applies here. And their argument is,

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<v Speaker 18>by the time that order came down, the planes were

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<v Speaker 18>already either mid air in international airspace and so the

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<v Speaker 18>judge did not have jurisdiction on them, or it had

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<v Speaker 18>landed in El Salvador. So I think that's going to

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<v Speaker 18>work its way up to an appeals court, but it's

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<v Speaker 18>kind of a moot point because those folks are not

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<v Speaker 18>American citizens. They're already out of the country. More broadly,

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<v Speaker 18>there's a constitutional issue that has been brewing for quite

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<v Speaker 18>some time, and this is another example on that. Where

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:11.760
<v Speaker 18>do individual judges who have single jurisdictions and the different

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:14.840
<v Speaker 18>parts of the country have the authority to keep issuing

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 18>these nationwide injunctions against the head of the executive branch,

0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:20.799
<v Speaker 18>which is the president. And I think that thing it's

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<v Speaker 18>we're not at a constitutional crisis yet, but it's headed

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<v Speaker 18>in that direction. The more and more of these happen,

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<v Speaker 18>And the last point quickly I'd make is the ramifications. Politically,

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<v Speaker 18>I think it hurts the Democrats because this issue is

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<v Speaker 18>one of the few in a divided country that's an

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<v Speaker 18>eighty twenty issue where eighty percent of the electorate wants

0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 18>violent criminal gang members that are in the country illegally

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<v Speaker 18>out and there's videos showing them going out there and

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:45.799
<v Speaker 18>they're like fully tattooed and not sympathetic figures at all.

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<v Speaker 18>I think them trying to fight to say, turn that

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<v Speaker 18>plane around, bring them back is not going to play

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<v Speaker 18>well politically for the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>If only we could deport violent criminals here as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Coach should tell us about this polling, because most of

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<v Speaker 2>the media cover each that we see about Trump is

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:04.319
<v Speaker 2>pretty negative, but we hear that he has had his

0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 2>highest approval writing ever, movod is saying the US is

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:10.200
<v Speaker 2>on the right track than any time in the past

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us about this poll.

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<v Speaker 18>Yeah, so that poll about just the country overall is

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<v Speaker 18>headed in the right direction wrong direction is one of

0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:20.960
<v Speaker 18>the seminal polls in US politics. I think it's been

0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:23.560
<v Speaker 18>measured since nineteen thirty six or something like that, and

0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:25.960
<v Speaker 18>that's always like a great heartbeat of just where the

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 18>country stands, even above and beyond the president. And these

0:48:29.680 --> 0:48:32.319
<v Speaker 18>are really remarkable numbers. I think the last time it

0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:33.959
<v Speaker 18>was this high, I was in two thousand and four,

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<v Speaker 18>and in just September, just a few months ago, it

0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:39.400
<v Speaker 18>was only twenty seven percent of the country thought that

0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:41.680
<v Speaker 18>it was on the right track versus now forty four

0:48:41.760 --> 0:48:44.720
<v Speaker 18>percent or higher depending on different polls, So that's huge.

0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 18>I also think Trump's personal best is interesting too, So

0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:51.560
<v Speaker 18>his own approval ratings, while under fifty percent, are the

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:54.600
<v Speaker 18>highest they've ever been, and that, really, I think is

0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:58.000
<v Speaker 18>a fascinating epilogue to the comeback story that we've been

0:48:58.040 --> 0:49:00.120
<v Speaker 18>reporting about for the better part of last year and

0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:02.920
<v Speaker 18>where he was down in the doldrums after January sixth

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<v Speaker 18>to winning and now you're having that level of approval

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:08.680
<v Speaker 18>is really quite stunning. It won't last forever. He will falter,

0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:10.799
<v Speaker 18>I'm sure along the way, but so far, so good

0:49:10.840 --> 0:49:11.960
<v Speaker 18>for just not even two months in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's pretty pretty extraordinary. And I think a lot

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:18.480
<v Speaker 2>of that will hinge on where Russia Ukraine ends up,

0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:20.640
<v Speaker 2>because he said he was going to solve this crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see, all right, Koshagada, appreciate your time and thanks

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<v Speaker 2>everyone for your company tonight. I'll see you tomorrow at eight,

0:49:28.840 --> 0:49:29.759
<v Speaker 2>looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's Paul in the man Cave.