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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the heart of It. We are

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Speaker 1: coming to you from gaddigal Land, and we've just had

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Speaker 1: the most inspiring conversation with a couple of fellows that

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Speaker 1: are just incredible.

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Speaker 2: I know, I had a feeling it was going to

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Speaker 2: be bad, and it's proven to be absolutely bad, as

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Speaker 2: we had suspected. Anthony Aiken and Pete Cunningham married couple.

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Speaker 2: They're a busy couple and they are a powerhouse husband

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Speaker 2: and husband duo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so Pete's career.

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Speaker 1: Pete comes from a TV production background, so he's some

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Speaker 1: of his credits are Married at First Sight, The Real

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Speaker 1: Housewives of Beverly Hills.

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Speaker 3: And vander Pump Rules. I'm not when he said that.

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Speaker 3: I know it's a huge show. I know River our

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Speaker 3: son loves it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you yeah, I don't watch it. I've not seen

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Speaker 2: vander Pump Rules. I do, It's been going for years.

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Speaker 4: It's such a popular show.

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Speaker 2: And Anthony, he's just built a career on energy and

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Speaker 2: elevation and extraordinary performance and he's been a world champion

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Speaker 2: aerobics guy. He's done so you think he can dance

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Speaker 2: my favorite show and a choreographer as well.

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Speaker 1: So together they now create these jaw dropping events in

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Speaker 1: there there. Well they've just opened it, Yes, the glowhouse.

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Speaker 2: And you'll and you'll hear about what the blowhouse actually is.

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Speaker 2: We won't give out too much information that they'll just look.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, we're both you can tell we're both buzzing from

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Speaker 1: this chat. So let's dive into it. Love, business, sequence, spreadsheets.

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Speaker 4: Parenthood, and a little bit of sparkle.

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Speaker 3: Yes, enjoy.

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Speaker 2: So Anthony and Pete, thank you so much for talking

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Speaker 2: to us on the heart of it.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for having us.

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Speaker 7: Yes, it's my first podcast, is it really?

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Speaker 3: Is it really? And look at the microphone.

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Speaker 1: You've happened with the sparkliest microphone on radio.

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Speaker 7: It's meant to be.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's lovely. Oh I'm so glad it's that that wear.

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Speaker 3: Your first Yes, Alie's very gentle.

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Speaker 7: Okay, good, Yes, something, I'm feeling comfortable already.

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Speaker 1: I can be a bit ham fisted, but.

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Speaker 4: I kick him under the table a lot.

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Speaker 7: Great. I think that's what I'll be doing with that.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, let's let's start with your love story. We

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Speaker 2: always like to start there. Your careers before the business

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Speaker 2: that you're doing are just so interesting. We've got an

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Speaker 2: incredible dancer, a reality TV producer, walk into a bar

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Speaker 2: and go, how did you guys actually meet?

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Speaker 6: Okay, I'll let you tell them, because it's way more

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Speaker 6: embarrassing for Pete than it is for me. So this

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Speaker 6: is like two thousand and seven or two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 6: I should get the timings right. But I received a

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Speaker 6: message on my Space and it was like, yes, back

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Speaker 6: in the MySpace days, and Pete was pretending that he

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Speaker 6: wanted to learn to dance to see if I did

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Speaker 6: private dance lessons and yeah, that.

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Speaker 3: Was my that was my sick and did you did

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Speaker 7: He wrote that no straight away.

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Speaker 8: I wrote that no nicely.

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Speaker 6: I think we can't actually log back onto my Space

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Speaker 6: to see this like message history. But it was like

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Speaker 6: a polite decline. And then literally like two nights later,

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Speaker 6: and I like, you know what, outside of a message feed.

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Speaker 6: and he just looked beautiful and handsome, and he's like friends,

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Speaker 7: Started eagerly replying yeah.

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Speaker 6: And then we went on like a bunch of dates,

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Speaker 7: And I was in love. He did, he did. I

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Speaker 6: Me, Oh, I'm so sorry, but I truthfully, I think

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Speaker 7: That was a little bit creepy.

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Speaker 8: Honest to god.

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Speaker 6: I knew that he was such a great guy, and

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Speaker 8: Yep, and we did.

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Speaker 6: We stayed best friends between that breakup and then getting

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Speaker 3: It's such a great story.

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Speaker 1: Just back to that night when you were at the restaurant, Pete,

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Speaker 1: Were you aware that Anthony was sitting there and that

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Speaker 3: Can I?

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Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, what.

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Speaker 3: Was that like for you? Knowing, Oh my god, that's

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Speaker 7: Well, it was It was a funny situation because he

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Speaker 7: had just written back and barred me. Basically, he was like, no, sorry,

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Speaker 7: don't do dance lessons for older people, because he was

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Speaker 2: Where had you seen like I don't remember the MySpace

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Speaker 2: how that worked. But had you seen Anthony dance or

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 7: Okay, I had seen him dance. There's a there's a

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Speaker 7: he is beautiful. Yeah, so I looked him up. I

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Speaker 7: easy to stalk someone I can't like MySpace was like

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Speaker 8: But you're a great creep.

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Speaker 6: Like even to this day, like you can find anyone

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Speaker 7: It's a skill. Well look where that skill landed me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Is that the skill?

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Speaker 1: That's like we married at first sight and no sort

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Speaker 3: You must have had to use that skill in that part.

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Speaker 7: Of your job. Yeah, yeah, Well, all those all those

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Speaker 1: I imagine that that is because we have a lot

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Speaker 3: What does a producer do?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, I think a lot of people when I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm so interested in this. Our son has

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Speaker 2: But they're perfectly happy and they've just bought they've just

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Speaker 2: got a dog together as though you know, they're now

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Speaker 2: twenty five and twenty seven. But so twenty six you

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Speaker 2: met Pete? Yeah, when did the when did the background?

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Speaker 6: Yep? So once we broke r I was twenty six,

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Speaker 6: he was nineteen by then, let's just go with it,

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Speaker 6: and then like we were best friends in between, and

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Speaker 6: during that time though, we both fulfilled a whole bunch

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Speaker 6: as the friendship developed over those eight years in between,

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, what What's something about each other that that

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Speaker 6: But I'm also just I think that comes from just

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Speaker 2: I'm much more I'm much more like you, Pete. I

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Speaker 4: Cam and away you go.

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Speaker 1: I'm much more comfortable doing it in person than over

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Speaker 6: Yes? Absolutely? And I find emails now you can just

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Speaker 3: What about you and what surprises you about Pete? Do

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Speaker 6: It's the opposite of the way I behave as well?

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Speaker 6: I love and it surprises me or it always surprises me.

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Speaker 6: Is Pete's handling of any situation that needs a solution

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Speaker 6: I can't help it that if there's ever if anything

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you've learned to let me spiral spiral.

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Speaker 7: We'll get there in the end. But if you're his

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Speaker 6: It would be so annoying.

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Speaker 4: It's like a tornado.

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Speaker 2: How when a tornado goes, you're gathering stuff inwards. So

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Speaker 4: Now I know what I'm doing.

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Speaker 3: I know step one, And what a great what a

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Speaker 1: So it is a year and a yang, and we

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Speaker 7: Yeah, send them off to a networking event. Last night,

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of the kids, are you do? You do

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Speaker 3: How does that go?

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Speaker 7: I think as parents were actually very similar. We're very

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Speaker 6: Think, beautiful, little darling. But I do catch myself, like

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Speaker 6: But then, like which most parents I'm sure do, but

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Speaker 4: Oh so true at all too familiar three of our own,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's you know, I mean, I think it's

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Speaker 2: But I think that's one of the things that is

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Speaker 4: You know, the kids need to see it. They need

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you lose it and you just and when you

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Speaker 2: How else are they going to learn how to apologize?

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Speaker 2: Because if mum and dad never do it, then it's like,

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Speaker 2: well why should I? So yeah, yeah, Cam's done a

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Speaker 3: And proud of it. I've come a long way.

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Speaker 1: I used to apologize, I'm really sorry for that, but

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Speaker 2: it says sorry. Don't say thank you for saying sorry,

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00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 2: but you know you shouldn't.

443
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:58,479
Speaker 5: Have done that.

444
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 4: Take the butt out of that.

445
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: Just let those things land, actually and let it go

446
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 1: and then walk away. If you feel like you need

447
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: to go tell it to the lemon, try in the backyard.

448
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 4: What do you feel is the best thing about fatherhood.

449
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 6: Or I think it is not prioritizing yourself and having

450
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 6: for us those two beings be out everything. And I

451
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 6: think maybe that was a really important shift for me.

452
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 6: But coming from this professional dance background and into this

453
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 6: really I guess, but in a good way, and I

454
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 6: don't regret it. But like this selfish kind of lifestyle

455
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 6: with that ego has to thrive to get ahead. I

456
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 6: just I loved the shift into parenthood changing that for

457
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 6: me and it being all about the kids and way

458
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 6: less about me, And I just love that I actually

459
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 6: preferred this version of me being about them.

460
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would agree with that. Yeah, definitely,

461
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 7: I think. I mean, I love, I love I Actually,

462
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 7: I don't know if this is weird, but I love

463
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 7: the fact that we've built our own little family together.

464
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 7: And your family is so important to me. I've got

465
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 7: a big, beautiful family. But growing up, I think, growing

466
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 7: up gay, just having kids is something that feels so

467
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 7: far away, feels like, especially when we grew up, it

468
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 7: felt like it was impossible, And the fact that we

469
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 7: have that now is you know, I just never take

470
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 7: that for granted. It's so special to us, and the

471
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 7: fact that we've been able to build our own family

472
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 7: and have the life that really I always dreamed of.

473
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 7: It is just something that makes me really.

474
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: Was it difficult to go through the surrogacy in America?

475
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's actually hard to hear I believe.

476
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 5: Was it?

477
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: Was it challenging in America?

478
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 6: Yes?

479
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, I mean I think, yeah, as you say,

480
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 7: way more challenging here. But in America it's it's like

481
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 7: it's its own industry really, like they've got they've got

482
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 7: it all set up. It's you know, it's it's such

483
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 7: a it's such a process over there that is very regulated,

484
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 7: and you know, if we felt like we were in

485
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 7: safe hands. But that all being said, yeah, my god,

486
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 7: it was.

487
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 6: Stressful, stressful and wildly expensive. But when you're going through it,

488
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 6: you completely understand why you have to pay those elements

489
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 6: and it does make sense. But it just you'd want

490
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 6: this for so many more people. We would love to

491
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 6: see more rainbow families, but it's just it's so expensive

492
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 6: and just and not possible for a lot of people.

493
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 6: But it's like, like I said, it's hard because you

494
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 6: understand why each component against that amount of money to

495
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 6: create that. But yeah, I don't have an answer for that.

496
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 6: But that was one of the most challenging things too,

497
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 6: is just going through that journey and everything that's involved. Yeah,

498
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 6: it was.

499
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 7: It was wild. Guys.

500
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: How long is that journey, like, from the moment that

501
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: you call up or decide you ring an agency or

502
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: I don't know how it works, to the moment that

503
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: you're actually holding your newborn.

504
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 3: How long does that take?

505
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 7: I mean for us, it was not too long. It's

506
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 7: about two years. Yeah, yeah, so about two years from

507
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 7: when we decided we want to have a baby to

508
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 7: to when we had Nash. I would say, you know,

509
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 7: and for some covels it takes a lot longer. We

510
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 7: got blessed with the most amazing Sarahgat.

511
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 6: She was just incredible.

512
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 7: We just love her. She did she was kids, she did. Yeah, yeah,

513
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 7: so she as soon as Nash was born about a

514
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 7: week later, she was like, let me know when you

515
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 7: want to go again. You love being pregnant. She's and

516
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 7: you know, interestingly, she was from a small town in Utah,

517
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 7: she was Mormon, and she just I guess we went

518
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 7: into it being like, oh gosh, I don't know how

519
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 7: this is all going to work, just because we didn't

520
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 7: understand really Mormonism and Yah is that a word Mormonism?

521
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 7: And and and how it was all going to work,

522
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 7: whether you know they you know, was she allowed to

523
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 7: do this? Everything anyway it all turned out. She was

524
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 7: just so gracious in what she was doing for us,

525
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 7: and so beautiful and easy and just wanted. She kept

526
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 7: checking on on ask making sure we were okay. You know,

527
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 7: at one point, you know, she did lose a baby,

528
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 7: so we we went through that as well with her,

529
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 7: and we just got so lucky. So our you know,

530
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 7: our our journey was was really special and we got

531
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 7: you know, we got really blessed with her. But you

532
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 7: know what all Sarah gets are incredible women because to

533
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 7: do that, to carry someone else's baby, and you know,

534
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 7: it's not just herself carrying it, but it's her family.

535
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 7: She has her own children, her husband is there by

536
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 7: a side the whole time. It's a whole thing, and

537
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 7: and we just we just love her.

538
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 6: She's beautiful. She messaged just recently and said do you

539
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 6: want to go again?

540
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 7: And we were like, nope, absolutely not, but thank you,

541
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 7: We're done. Ali.

542
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: Ali did that with us too, because we had our

543
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: two kids who are who are obviously older than our third.

544
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 3: But I was like I think we need to go again.

545
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: It's like, really, I mean, we were flying back and

546
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: forth from LA to Australia a lot and was one

547
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: child each. And also the rose that I was set

548
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: up in the airplane were for four seats.

549
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: And I'm like, if we do another one, we could

550
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: do it two rows.

551
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 4: It's coming from a family of seven.

552
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, what would you guys love for your children to

553
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: take from you as they grow up from who you are.

554
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,239
Speaker 6: One of the beautiful things of our children growing up

555
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 6: with two dads and what we're seeing at KINDI and

556
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 6: hearing all of the kids say, is just to have

557
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 6: this generation grow up in a time where two dads

558
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 6: is just normal. One mom's normal, two moms a normal,

559
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 6: grandparents raising kids. It's just there's so many varieties of family,

560
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 6: which is such a beautiful thing. But what I think

561
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 6: that leads to more than anything, is just this natural

562
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,719
Speaker 6: value of acceptance no matter what the scenario is. And

563
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 6: I feel like that certainly wasn't around when I was

564
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 6: growing up in the eighties and nineties, but now it

565
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 6: just feels like it's it's thriving. Like when we walk

566
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 6: in sometimes the kids go, now she has two dads

567
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 6: and then I always make it a point to go, yeah,

568
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 6: he's got two dads, how lucky is he? And some

569
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 6: people have two moms, and you know, some people have

570
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 6: a dad and a mom, or they just have a mom.

571
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 6: And you can just see that the eyes on the kids'

572
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 6: faces they light up and there's no.

573
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 7: Like, there's no weirdness to me. Yeah. The other day, Nash,

574
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 7: when of the girls said, Nash, why do you have

575
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 7: two dads? He said, because I want to. It's so cute. Yeah.

576
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 6: I think anything, you know, with that mindset of just

577
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 6: like loving everyone for who they are and everyone mind

578
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 6: your own business kind of mindset, I think it's just

579
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 6: a beautiful thing to be able to grow up with

580
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 6: and to be able to see what's possible for their

581
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 6: lives with that mindset, I think is pretty incredible.

582
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely, you know, and you know, we've been told

583
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 7: multiple times that both of our kids, I mean, they're

584
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 7: so different, but they're both they're both so confident, and

585
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 7: they both have so much personality. You know, all their

586
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 7: teachers are like, oh my god, what whatever you guys

587
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 7: are doing, keep doing it because these kids are like

588
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 7: the leaders in their class. That makes me so proud.

589
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 7: And I think. I think growing up as a kid,

590
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 7: I didn't have a lot of confidence, but I am so,

591
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 7: you know, Anti brings a lot of confidence to our family.

592
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 7: And I think, and you know I as a parent,

593
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 7: I feel like I am really confident. I feel like

594
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 7: I'm doing a great job. And I think that is

595
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 7: what I really want to instill in them, is that

596
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 7: to never lose that never lose that confidence.

597
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 6: Well, can I tell you an example of Betty's confidence?

598
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 6: And maybe I've brought too much confidence to the family,

599
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 6: but she loves to strip all her clothes off, nappy included.

600
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 6: She puts on these cheap plastic little elsa high heels,

601
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 6: and she just struts down the house hallway nude, singing

602
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 6: at the top of the lungs. Let it go to anyone.

603
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 6: And then she ends up in front of the mirror

604
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 6: and just loves to watch herself sing nude in plastic.

605
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 8: Heels in the background, like.

606
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: You have a Betty, we have a body, and body

607
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: is our third And she was the one who used

608
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: to put a mop in the bucket upside down and

609
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: that was her microphone, and she'd be carrying.

610
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: Stuff around naked, not naked public.

611
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: And then Ali was telling about before Rivy, he couldn't

612
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: we couldn't keep his clothes on. He was just walking

613
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: around walking around naked as well all the time. What

614
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: I was going to say is he Riv loved the

615
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: monkey bars and he was every house We had always

616
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: built monkey bars for the kids to so they would,

617
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: you know, just become strong and get confident in their

618
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 1: in their body. One thing that he as he grew older,

619
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: he ended up in circus training and and that was

620
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: his thing. It started in gymnastics. He wasn't something into that,

621
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 1: but he really gravitated towards the silks and doing floor

622
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: routines and things with his with his girlfriends.

623
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: And this is the thing, Anthony.

624
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: You you're a dancer, And I think one of the

625
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: great things about dancers is they were really aware of

626
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: their space and their body and where they are. And

627
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: that's such a as a performer. It's such a great

628
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: quality to have and to understand. Is that something that

629
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: the kids Betty and Nash are they do they have

630
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: that innately or are you teaching them or how does

631
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: that going?

632
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 6: We and I agree, I'm so thankful for having that

633
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 6: dance and gymnastics training young. I think it's one of

634
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 6: the most powerful things to do, even at the very

635
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 6: junior level, for your basic motor skills and awareness and movement.

636
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 6: I think it's so good. So we've got both of

637
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 6: our kids do gymnastics and then Betty does dancing on

638
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 6: another day and Nash does Brazilian jiu jitsu, and the

639
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 6: gymnastics is for all of those things that you were

640
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 6: just saying, and they love it because there's all those

641
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 6: fun things they can run wild with. Betty just loves

642
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 6: dancing and singing, so we put her in that. But

643
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 6: Nash isn't really into jiu jitsu, and we're not trying

644
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 6: to force him. But there's just one part of it

645
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 6: that I love in these classes is the respect that

646
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 6: they teach and in any of their little wrestles, they

647
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 6: shake hands straight after they do a bow before they

648
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 6: go into a wrestle, and I just love that kind

649
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 6: of respect that it teaches him. He still has a

650
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 6: lot of fun. They're kind of the activities we have

651
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 6: the minut at the moment and for those reasons you

652
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 6: were saying.

653
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 7: And after only a dance school for twenty years, Anthony said,

654
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 7: I'll never be a dance moment he's turning totally into

655
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 7: a dance man.

656
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 6: That's creeping.

657
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: Do you miss not performing and are you Do you

658
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 2: miss any of that professionally?

659
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 6: Not really, And I don't know if it's I just

660
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 6: I did it right up until the point where I

661
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 6: was like, this is my last show. And I think

662
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 6: I was like thirty three at that time as a dancer,

663
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 6: and I knew it was the last thing I was

664
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 6: going to do, and I loved what it was that

665
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 6: I was doing, and I just ticked all the boxes

666
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 6: that I wanted to tick as a dancer, and I

667
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 6: was very aware and could see how good the new

668
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 6: generation were that we're coming through. So it was kind

669
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 6: of just like a combination of all those things. It

670
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 6: helped a little bit that I went straight into working

671
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 6: as a choreographer and creative director a couple of things.

672
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 6: So I still kept that that passion alive. I don't

673
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 6: do much of that anymore, but the transition from dancer

674
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 6: into that helped. And then now it's we still get

675
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 6: to be creative in the business that we've got now,

676
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 6: which I still love. But yeah, I certainly don't ache

677
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 6: to be back on stage anymore.

678
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you when you mentioned the Brazilian jiu jitsu.

679
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: Our neighbors in the.

680
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: States were into cara and the dad used to sit

681
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: on the front on the front porch with the capoa,

682
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: the stream gang.

683
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 10: Dangan something thought. You guys sitting on your front just

684
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 10: doing ta rythm for it.

685
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: You have co created some of the most incredible events,

686
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: I think. So is it is it correct to say

687
00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: that you're a bit more visionary and and and then

688
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: Pete your like spreadsheet guy.

689
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 4: Is that how it normally.

690
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: Splits or do you sort of cross over creatively and

691
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: have your have the ideas come together.

692
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, we definitely cross over. So the way we sort

693
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 7: of split it is we say Anthony's front of house

694
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 7: and I'm back of house. But creatively we definitely cross

695
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 7: over because you know, I've I've grown up in creative

696
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 7: industries and I'm all about the drama and making sure

697
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 7: everything is overdone and dramatic and you know, you know,

698
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 7: just putting on a show, and that's you know, you're

699
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 7: very much the same. So I think we have this

700
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 7: nice balance. Definitely, and we creatively we were sort of

701
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 7: we definitely are entrue in that way.

702
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think Pete's background is a story

703
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 6: producer in TV really helps because we we make every

704
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 6: event a story. So when people arrive, they're they're hooked

705
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 6: into the whole event, but it's through storytelling really right

706
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 6: up until when they leave. And I think that's one

707
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 6: of the skills that you have that certainly helps our

708
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 6: business be something different to the others.

709
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 7: And it really comes through creatively when it comes to

710
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 7: the you know what entertainment we're putting on, what show

711
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 7: we're putting on, and the run of the show. As

712
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 7: a creative director and sort of director on the day,

713
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 7: that's definitely his forte Oh.

714
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 6: There's always singers, dances, feathers, sequence, you name it.

715
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: And it must make for such a dynamic life because

716
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: things are always changing.

717
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 6: For you guys. Yeah, it does, and we kind of

718
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 6: we're learning as we go. Like one of the things

719
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 6: we laugh about is that we're about to get into

720
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 6: a really busy period and it's all events or we

721
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 6: can work, and we didn't have a plan with the

722
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 6: kids and who's going to help or babysit, and we're

723
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 6: getting busier and busier and it's just like crap, Like

724
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 6: we haven't figured this part out. But you just learn

725
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 6: as you go, and we've got some beautiful help around

726
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 6: around us. Yeah, but yeah, we we love it.

727
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, a fly on the edge. We're trying to figure

728
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 7: it all out as we go.

729
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: I had the great pleasure of working with American director

730
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 1: Jerry Mitchell, who created Legally Blonde, and Jerry he's such

731
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: an interesting fellow. He comes from a dance and choreography

732
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: background and he's really clever with doing that, corry, but

733
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: he's evolved his thing into like one of his businesses

734
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: is designing airport flow, traffic flow through things like that,

735
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of getting that with you guys, that

736
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: the sky's.

737
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 3: The limit for what you guys can put your talents too. Yeah,

738
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 3: and where your talents lie? Tell us about the latest one?

739
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 7: Is it?

740
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: Glowhouse?

741
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: Yes?

742
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, yes, a baby.

743
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 6: That's why we're not having a third kid, because this

744
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 6: business is But yeah, so what is it? We started

745
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 6: as event producers originally with our company called Glow Events,

746
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 6: and we produce the people's events, be it galas or

747
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 6: huge celebrations or weddings or private functions. But we always

748
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 6: wanted to have our own venue, and we didn't know

749
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 6: what that would look like at the beginning, but just

750
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 6: based on industries and people were following our algorithms started

751
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 6: showing us these events in Europe and America that were

752
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 6: pretty spectacular in these glass atrium type structures. They're like

753
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 6: the most high and beautiful marquees made out of glass,

754
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 6: and what you can do in these beautiful atrium structures

755
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 6: is endless. And then that kind of planet the seed

756
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 6: for us of oh Brisbane needs something like that. Like

757
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 6: there's this real buzz around Brisbane at the moment where

758
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 6: seven years out from an Olympics, there's so much business

759
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 6: coming here. People are wanting to push boundaries and be

760
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 6: different and level up. And we started to pitch this

761
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 6: idea to the powers that be in Brisbane and for us,

762
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 6: it was lucky that we could get in with with

763
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 6: Council and say, what about if we had this structure

764
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 6: that we could rotate between your most pristine parklands around

765
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 6: Brisbane and people could book their events inside the Glowhouse

766
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 6: at the Botanic Gardens or your Roma Street parklands and things,

767
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 6: and it was it just so happened that they were

768
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 6: up for all of that at that point in time,

769
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 6: and then it just started to flow from there. We

770
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 6: started to speak to suppliers to have it built, bring

771
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 6: it over to Australia, and now we're in that exciting

772
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 6: but insanely overwhelming and stressful period of like we've launched

773
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 6: it and now we're like people need to book it.

774
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's sort of moment where you hold your breath

775
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 7: and you go is this going to act?

776
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 4: Going to ask and what would you experience in the Glowhouse?

777
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 4: What do walk us through?

778
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: What I mean is it is it more like what

779
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: you is it sort of someone goes, oh, I want

780
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: a wedding or and I want it to be this

781
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: is and this, But that's kind of what you've done

782
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: with your events. What's going to be different about the Glowhouse?

783
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: How does that going to operate?

784
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 6: I think it's one of those experiences that if you

785
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 6: put it inside, because everything is fully transparent, so you

786
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 6: can see through the roof, the walls, everywhere you can look,

787
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 6: and we've got it set up inside these parklands. So

788
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 6: you arrive at your event and if you picture this,

789
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 6: you arrive and it's just before sunset, and you have

790
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 6: your cocktail hour cannopas around the Glowhouse, and then when

791
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 6: the sun starts to set, you walk in and you're

792
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 6: seated at your event, but you can see the stars,

793
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 6: you can see everything happened around you. You can have

794
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 6: drone shows outside or fireworks above, and you're inside the space.

795
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 6: And it's just this brand new type of offering that

796
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 6: we're trying to bring to the event scene. And like

797
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 6: I said, there's been the most spectacular versions of this

798
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 6: done in Europe and New York. But we're like, let's

799
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 6: level up Brisbane. Let's make Brisbane the global city that

800
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 6: it wants to be and will be, and kind of

801
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 6: introduce something like this right now. And that's the point

802
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 6: that we're at. And to be honest, the reason we're

803
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 6: so stressed and overwhelmed is because we only launched on Sunday.

804
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 4: So fresh, okay, Yeah.

805
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 8: We put it to market literally a few nights ago.

806
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's it's just been yeah, it's it's it's

807
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 7: been such an educational process, especially for me, I think.

808
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 7: But it's also now like, okay, we've put so much

809
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 7: on the line, We've thrown everything at this everything it

810
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 7: needs to work, Okay.

811
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: So so in those moments of oh shit, what have

812
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: we done, which I imagine in the last few days, there's

813
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 1: been a couple of them going, oh my god, how

814
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: do you support each other?

815
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 6: It's hard because most of mine are at three am.

816
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand that I correlate to that rubs my

817
00:44:58,840 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: back and I'm like, oh my god.

818
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 6: And then you know the kids are going to be

819
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 6: off in like an hour and a half or something

820
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 6: like that, and your brain at that time goes to

821
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 6: West case scenario. But I think that's just.

822
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 7: We We din know what. We have the most incredible

823
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 7: mentors in my parents. My parents are incredible business people.

824
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 7: They they I've got three, got two brothers and a sister,

825
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 7: so we've got four of us. When I was in

826
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 7: grade three, they picked us up, moved us over to

827
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 7: Nashville and started a business and took the biggest risk

828
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 7: of their lives and that really paid off for them.

829
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 7: It was a huge success. And I always look back

830
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 7: on that time in our lives and just go, Now,

831
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 7: that was taking that was taking risk, that was that

832
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 7: was really incredible and they've really instilled that in us.

833
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 7: And so through all these stressful times, yes, we have

834
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 7: each other, but we also have my parents and they

835
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 7: are they've We're both like, yeah, we call them multiple

836
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 7: times a day. Asking them questions. You know, they are

837
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 7: they are really have been our rocks in.

838
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: This Are they are they still entrepreneurs? Are they still

839
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: working or are they?

840
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely, you know they they they sold

841
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 7: their business probably about six or seven years ago now,

842
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 7: but Dad is you know, right into the business world

843
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 7: and you know, he's a huge investor in things. And

844
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 7: now they they actually own a horse racehorse breeding farm

845
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 7: and it scone and it's gone. So my brother runs

846
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 7: that and racing has taken over the family. It's I

847
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 7: never knew it was such a big deal with them.

848
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 7: I didn't they loved it so much. But now we're

849
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 7: racing family apparently. But no so that so they you know,

850
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 7: they will never stop. They're both incredibly driven people. And

851
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 7: my mum's you know, the social queen of Brisbane.

852
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: So you got you have me curious because I'm a

853
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: country musician. I love country. Why did what was Nashville?

854
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 7: So Nashville, as well as being the country music capital,

855
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 7: is also weirdly the healthcare capital, Like there's a lot

856
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 7: of It's like the hub of healthcare, the healthcare industry

857
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 7: in America. Don't ask me why, I don't know, but

858
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 7: my dad decided I saw a gap over there for

859
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 7: the Australian practice of physiotherapy in America. So in America

860
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 7: it's called physical therapy, and basically thought Australians do it better.

861
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 7: I'm going to take the practice over there and you know,

862
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 7: take some Australian physios with me and train them up,

863
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 7: and it just proved to be hugely successful. Random vision

864
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 7: when you see.

865
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: The gap in the market, No, yeah, that's amazing. Well

866
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 2: I'm thinking like.

867
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 4: You could do a glow a glow submarine and.

868
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 3: Wouldn't much in the Brisbane River.

869
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: Honey, it's pretty through boat, so you could.

870
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 4: If you need more ideas, just come.

871
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 7: To me.

872
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 4: At three o'clock.

873
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 8: Oh my god, has there.

874
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: Been something for events that that like, what's the wildest

875
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: thing that someone's asked you to see if you can do?

876
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 2: But you're just like this is just an impossible task?

877
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: Or have you actually been able to pull it off?

878
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 6: Oh my god, I want to. I want to give

879
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 6: a random one, but it's not like impossible to pull off.

880
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 6: But when we're at events and we're clearly directing everything,

881
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 6: people could just come up, come up to you think

882
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 6: that you are their fixer for anything. So we're producing

883
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 6: a wedding a couple of weeks ago. The mother of

884
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 6: the brider storms up to me, is like, there's no

885
00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 6: toilet paper in the toilets. Next minute, I'm finding dunny

886
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 6: paper and taking it to the I've got a bit

887
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 6: of better one.

888
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 7: This is like a big, wild request. But Anthony has

889
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 7: a phobia of carbonated drinks, right, so bubbles. So literally

890
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 7: never in his life has he touched the champagne and

891
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 7: be a soft drink anything.

892
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 8: And I'm weird talking about it.

893
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 7: The thought of the thought of the thought of the

894
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 7: bubbles somehow freaks them out. And now that we're in

895
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 7: events and everyone's drinking champagne, people are always going up

896
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 7: to you asking you can you please top up my champagne?

897
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 7: And honestly, like, I've never thought i'd see the day

898
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 7: where he would pour someone on a glass of champagne.

899
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 7: But You've done it.

900
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 6: I had to. It's like sink or swim. And I'm

901
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 6: also I'm really tall, so that I'm the first person

902
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 6: people's spot to fix anything at an event. So they

903
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 6: just come storming straight towards me.

904
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, and Cat's all, are you six foot three and

905
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 8: a dancer?

906
00:49:59,719 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 2: Yeah?

907
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: Amazing to me because I always use that as an

908
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,919
Speaker 1: excuse of why I couldn't.

909
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: Say you cannot use that excuse a musician. I'm like,

910
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 2: come on, get the Hips movie.

911
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: That just getting the feet moving at the same time,

912
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: it's a little bit clumsy.

913
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 2: Is there a wild and unconventional idea that you two

914
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 2: want to bring to life? The you'ves that have got

915
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: stirring and I mean, obviously Glowhouse is enough right now,

916
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: but is there something even more that you're like, imagine if.

917
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 7: Oh my goodness we think about Honestly, we bounce each

918
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 7: other's bounce ideas off of each other every day. There's

919
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 7: you know, I lived in London for a while and

920
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 7: the stuff they do over there is honestly incredible and

921
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 7: I don't know if you've seen it, but there's like

922
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 7: these I guess the nightclubs or events spaces, but they

923
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 7: basically it's like the Abba nightclub where everyone gets up

924
00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 7: and sings Abba songs. And we are just so strict

925
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 7: to pull something like that off in Brisbane, you know, like,

926
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 7: just make it transform, do this one big event that

927
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 7: transforms everyone internally, you know, I think like Priscilla or something. Yeah,

928
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 7: but just do something fun like that. But but yeah,

929
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 7: we've like in terms of in terms of events and

930
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 7: ideas where we're constantly trying to think of what we

931
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 7: could do that's new and different.

932
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 6: Yes, And it's also like I just wish we had

933
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 6: the budgets that they're doing seas, So we're always handcuffed

934
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 6: with no.

935
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 8: I mean they're not.

936
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 6: It's not terrible, and it's certainly getting better, but you

937
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 6: can only produce so much with what you've given. So

938
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 6: it's like we're just trying to create magic. And part

939
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 6: of why we do it is to always do something

940
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 6: different and unseen and unique, so that when people come

941
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 6: to a glow event or at the Glowhouse, it's like

942
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 6: I've never experienced that before. And that's what we love

943
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 6: is coming up with different ways, whether it be through

944
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 6: entertainment or through food, or through any event experience that

945
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 6: they walk away going that was freaking cool.

946
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: Have they have they tapped you for the Olympics yet?

947
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 2: Have they sort of said, hey, guys, we want you

948
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 2: to look.

949
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 4: Asked that question?

950
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 6: I mean, the roles they're feeling for the Olympics at

951
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 6: the moment are certainly more their senior kind of make

952
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 6: shit happen kind of roles of CEOs and teams to

953
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 6: build and infrastructure and all of that kind of stuff.

954
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 6: But creatively, we certainly want to throw a hand in

955
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 6: the mix there. I got to choreograph the closing ceremony

956
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 6: of the Commonwealth Games on the Gold Coast and I

957
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 6: loved it so much. I mean, creatively, you can't do anything.

958
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 6: You have to work with so many bodies and volunteers

959
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 6: and different groups.

960
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 8: But it's like that kind of.

961
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 6: Job on mass with those many bodies was so incredible

962
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 6: to be part of. So I certainly see glow events

963
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 6: or what we do creatively being involved for sure.

964
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 7: Absolutely.

965
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see what you do.

966
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: Cannot wait to see what yes so do. I We'll fly,

967
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: We'll fly up to Brisbane, We'll fly to you to come.

968
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 8: To an event. Since we've just launched. You want to

969
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 8: book the Glowhouse, take away my.

970
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 7: Stress, any of your kid's weddings. We're here.

971
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: How actually, how big is the Glowhouse?

972
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 3: Is it as big as you want it to be

973
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 3: or currently?

974
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, so currently it's four hundred and fifty square meters,

975
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 7: so we're saying it seats like two fifty to three hundred,

976
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 7: but you can actually just keep adding base to it.

977
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 8: Its modular.

978
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 7: So that's the current structure we got where if we

979
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 7: need to expand it for your kid's wedding, we will.

980
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 3: All right, guys, we do it. We do it.

981
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: We do a rapid heartbeat thing to wind it up.

982
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: Because it's been fantastic speaking with you both.

983
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 3: Justus answer the both answer the question.

984
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 7: Please.

985
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 3: For question number one, what brings you joy?

986
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 7: Family?

987
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 8: Kids?

988
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 6: Came straight to my mind.

989
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

990
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 2: Is there one moment that you would both like to

991
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: revisit in your life?

992
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 6: I think if we could when we moved to America

993
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 6: and got the timing or wrong because it was literally

994
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 6: just before COVID, we only got a couple of months

995
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 6: good in there, I would love. Our original plan was

996
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 6: to have our kids over there right up until maybe

997
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 6: like grade five or something, can then move home. Even

998
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 6: though I love our life and what we've built here,

999
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 6: I do wish we could redo that and not have

1000
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 6: it be what it.

1001
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 4: Was that forced out things.

1002
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah that was unfortunate, but yeah, we got our

1003
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 7: babies exactly. I think if I want to revisit a

1004
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 7: time in my life, not to redo, but just to

1005
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 7: sort of go back and appreciate it would be those

1006
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 7: years growing up in Nashville. I was so young and

1007
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 7: didn't quite understand the gravity of what my parents had

1008
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 7: done and the experience that we were getting. But we

1009
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 7: were there for four or five years, and my happiest

1010
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 7: memories are there, and I just think, you know, how

1011
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 7: how in credit? I just would love to go back

1012
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 7: and see what we were actually doing and what were

1013
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 7: you know. I remember it fondly, but I'd love to

1014
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 7: I'd love to revisit it.

1015
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 6: It's also why our boy's name is nash linked to Nashville, and.

1016
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: Just for the for the other side is Betty Elizabeth

1017
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: or Betty just Betty.

1018
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 6: And my grandmother was Betty Diamond. How good is that

1019
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 6: for a name? But she passed away.

1020
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 8: Our Betty is.

1021
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 5: That's right?

1022
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 3: Is making up a lot.

1023
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 4: And there's a Betty song by Taylor Swift.

1024
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 7: Right, but I think Betty in that song wasn't a

1025
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 7: very nice person. I think, yeah, yeah, So I was like,

1026
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 7: oh my god, yes, Taylor.

1027
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: We're big fans of Betty White.

1028
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 6: Hey, I read Betty White's book to Betty last night,

1029
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 6: did you Yeah?

1030
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 8: On a Way to Sleep?

1031
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 6: And her story it's one of those kids book, but

1032
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 6: it's his story and it's just gorgeous, amazing.

1033
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 3: All Right, what the world needs now.

1034
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 6: Is what's the opposite of divisiveness, like equality, come together,

1035
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 6: like not to be so like you're on the left,

1036
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 6: you're on the right, you like this, you didn't like that?

1037
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 6: Like just to come together and have more acceptance and

1038
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 6: let people be and think what they want and it

1039
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 6: not be so like toxic.

1040
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 7: Yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, I would say, I mean, first

1041
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 7: of all, that came tomorrow for me. It was a quality.

1042
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 7: I think we see that firsthand, and we've seen that

1043
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 7: first hand our whole lives, and we want our kids

1044
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 7: to grow up in a world that was that's much

1045
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 7: better than the ones we grow up in.

1046
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: You you just you talked earlier about confidence and something

1047
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: that I found in my research about confidence is inclusion.

1048
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: And you when you just said that about you know

1049
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: what what is it when you'll come together is just

1050
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: feeling included?

1051
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 6: Yes, you know, absolutely, no matter what your stance is,

1052
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 6: or history is, or circumstances like, just inclusion as a whole.

1053
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, last question, one word to describe each other.

1054
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 7: I would say, one word to describe you is passion

1055
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 7: in every every single area of your life as a

1056
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 7: as a dad, as a worker, as a husband. The

1057
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 7: most passionate person I've ever known.

1058
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 6: That's a hard one to follow. The first one that

1059
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 6: came to my mind was heart, because I think, even

1060
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 6: even though you're more introverted than me, every every decision

1061
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 6: you make or you lead with your heart. And that's

1062
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 6: with our family and with our business, and I think

1063
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 6: you're just such a loving soul and I love that

1064
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 6: about you.

1065
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 7: Well, this has been nice, Okay, Et, I'm not going

1066
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 7: to tell her that you're actually read.

1067
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 3: You know the title of this podcast being the heart

1068
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 3: of it?

1069
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 7: Okay, you too, Thank you so much, how lovely. This

1070
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 7: has been great.

1071
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 2: It's been so nice, so beautiful talking to you both.

1072
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: Congratulations on the Glowhouse. I have no doubt it's going

1073
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: to be an enormous success, and because because you.

1074
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 4: Put so much love and passion and heart to it.

1075
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you so much.

1076
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 7: Thanks, Thanks Pete, thank you loved it. Thank you. Mad