WEBVTT - WHY MATT GOT GHOSTED BY CHLOE FROM TOO HOT TO HANDLE

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<v Speaker 2>I want the fairy Tale, I want the Prince Charming.

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<v Speaker 3>She how do I put this? Isn't a fan of

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<v Speaker 3>my kissing style.

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<v Speaker 2>We boyfriend and girlfriend from about twelve hours.

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<v Speaker 3>He's in a trash bin.

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<v Speaker 2>He's non recyclable, catching them up.

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<v Speaker 3>I love speaking in love. I love love.

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<v Speaker 2>On today's episode of Where's Your Head At, we are

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<v Speaker 2>so excited to be spending some time with the sexy

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<v Speaker 2>and hilarious Chloe from Too Hot to Handle.

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<v Speaker 4>Chloe is also an English model and previous beauty queen

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<v Speaker 4>from Miss Super Talent pageant, but you may also know

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<v Speaker 4>her from the popular TV shows The Circle and The

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<v Speaker 4>Perfect Match.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't wait to chat all things dating, toxic men, relationships,

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<v Speaker 2>and reality TV gos with Chloe.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Matt, before we start this episode, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>we have to kind of catch our audience up because

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<v Speaker 2>Chloe is our guest today from Too Hot to Handle

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<v Speaker 2>And you guys have a little bit of history, don't you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So, a couple of years ago, a radio show here

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<v Speaker 4>in Melbourne invited me on to go on a surprise

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<v Speaker 4>blind date with another reality TV starf so she was

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<v Speaker 4>actually Chloe.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know it was going to be her?

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's right, And I was like, oh, I actually

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<v Speaker 4>watched your Hot to Handle, so I knew she was Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And how did the date on live on air go?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it was pretty awkward. It was on air live.

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<v Speaker 4>I just woken up because of the time difference. It

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<v Speaker 4>was like five am Australia time, so I was a

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<v Speaker 4>bit you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Groggy, Did you guys talk after the radio date? Is

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<v Speaker 2>the big question on my lips?

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<v Speaker 4>So from what I remember, yes, I remember facetiming her

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<v Speaker 4>maybe or something. It was a long time ago. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>pretty sure I'll ask her confirmed, but I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 4>we spoke on the phone afterwards that night or a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of nights later.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so funny. I love this. I love the goss

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<v Speaker 2>before an interview. And why did you guys stop talking?

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<v Speaker 4>She just I think from what I remember, I'll ask

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<v Speaker 4>her she ghosted me from what I remember, and I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't remember unfollowed you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I can't remember exactly what happened on something of

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<v Speaker 4>mine a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't remember exactly. I'm pretty sure that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>She coment to a couple of my photos.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, yeah, that's not a good sign. If she unfollowed

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<v Speaker 2>you and stop talking to you, basically ghosted you. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>look on that note, I think it's time to have

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<v Speaker 2>a chat with Chloe. Hey, Chloe, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to where you head.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>Youally gorgeous. It's so nice to have you on. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like there's an elephant in the room that we

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<v Speaker 2>have to address before the interview, and that is that

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<v Speaker 2>you and Nat went on a date once upon a

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<v Speaker 2>time on radio.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you remember that? It didn't It was a while

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<v Speaker 3>ago now, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Think it was when to handle first come out. It

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<v Speaker 5>must have been at least four years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>It was twenty twenty, like right before we went into lockdown,

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<v Speaker 4>like COVID was just so. They were like it was

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<v Speaker 4>like dating in lockdown, like and that it was a

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<v Speaker 4>blind date, wasn't it?

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<v Speaker 5>If I remember, Yeah, it was a blind date. I

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<v Speaker 5>can't remember who stot us up.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like this radio show here. I remember because

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<v Speaker 4>it was like so early in the morning because of

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<v Speaker 4>the time difference.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like five a m.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe or something, and I just gotten out of bed

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<v Speaker 4>and then you were looking like dressed to the nines

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<v Speaker 4>and I literally just chucked a baseball cap on like

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<v Speaker 4>usual and just yeah. I was just like and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, fuck, I could have done myself up.

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<v Speaker 3>Your report, flowers.

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<v Speaker 2>So how did the date go? Guys? Tell me everything,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm not all over this.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't really remember it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I wasn't that good then? I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I was impressed, clearly.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think it went well, Mart?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. I thought it went very well. I was

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it went very well, but didn't we did

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<v Speaker 3>we speak afterwards?

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<v Speaker 5>I think we exchanged Instagram handles, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>if we went as far as exchanging numbers. We spoke

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<v Speaker 5>maybe days, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We did. We did get phone numbers? Did you not WhatsApps?

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<v Speaker 2>So Chloe is forgot? This is actually like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a big thing for you because you don't get rejected

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<v Speaker 2>that of it. This is good to see. I'm loving it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm loving it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my heart's melting here. I remember how did like?

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<v Speaker 4>So we spoke for a bit and then, if I

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<v Speaker 4>remember correctly, did you not ghost me and then unfollow

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<v Speaker 4>me on Instagram?

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<v Speaker 5>I probably started seeing someone.

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<v Speaker 3>He did the right.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, when I'm in, I'm in. If you just snatched

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<v Speaker 5>me up quick and fast, I would have been on

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<v Speaker 5>following everyone else.

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<v Speaker 2>But you, I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>I lose, you lose. I guess that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. Well, Chloe, are you dating? Are you in

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship? What's the status right now?

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<v Speaker 5>So I was in a relationship for around six or

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<v Speaker 5>seven months with this guy from America. Okay, but downhill

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<v Speaker 5>really fast towards the end. So I'm now actually single?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, what happened? Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>I just we were both very different morally. We had

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<v Speaker 5>different beliefs, different standards of what expectations for men and

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<v Speaker 5>women are he yeah, it was very women have this role.

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<v Speaker 5>Men have this role. This is what you need to

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<v Speaker 5>wear and do and et cetera.

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<v Speaker 6>And I just thought in relationship black and white because

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<v Speaker 6>I'm suchual a free spirit, and it just felt like

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<v Speaker 6>I was I was molding myself into someone that I

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't and taming myself for the pleasure of his family

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<v Speaker 6>and whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just thought, I'm not going to suppress my personality.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm wild.

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<v Speaker 3>Good for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I love to hear that. Yeah, that's not okay. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're dating someone, they need to accept you for you.

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<v Speaker 3>So how did you meet him?

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<v Speaker 5>I actually met him on a dating app called Ryah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We've spoken about that before.

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<v Speaker 5>So is this guy the first to lib I mean

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<v Speaker 5>he wasn't an established I mean he was a hockey player,

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<v Speaker 5>so he was in the sport field. I didn't even

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<v Speaker 5>know that hockey was a thing until I got to America.

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<v Speaker 5>And then when I started dating him, it was like,

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<v Speaker 5>this is amazing. He goes to the gym, he's got

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<v Speaker 5>like real goals and aspirations for life. And when I

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<v Speaker 5>met him he was like this hockey player. I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>this is great. Have my fucking children no more? Hockey guys.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, have you found it harder to date or

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<v Speaker 2>easier to date since being on reality TV?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>So much harder? Yeah, how so in all the ways

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<v Speaker 5>that you wouldn't think it would be hard, Like I thought.

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<v Speaker 5>I heard people give me advice when I first got

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<v Speaker 5>into the industry and they were like, oh, it's so

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<v Speaker 5>hard to like date in the industry, and I'm like, yeah, whatever,

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<v Speaker 5>it's going to be different for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to have people classic.

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<v Speaker 5>But to be honest with you, I think because I'm

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<v Speaker 5>so busy, because I'm always in different countries, because I

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<v Speaker 5>haven't wanted to settle anywhere just yet, because I'm only

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<v Speaker 5>twenty four, and because I'm getting asked to do different

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<v Speaker 5>shows for Netflix or they're dating or their competition shows,

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's much harder in my mind to want

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<v Speaker 5>to settle down with someone where I'm so sporadic all

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<v Speaker 5>the time, like I don't know whether I'm coming or going,

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<v Speaker 5>And the only time that I get really is with

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<v Speaker 5>my family when I finish filming or come back from America.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's one side of it, and then the other

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<v Speaker 5>side is like my ex, for instance, he kind of

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<v Speaker 5>had this whole perception of who I was, because when

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<v Speaker 5>we were dating, he sees certain things on Instagram with

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<v Speaker 5>me working and doing photoshoots and podcasts and Netflix shows,

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<v Speaker 5>and then when he actually spent time time to get

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<v Speaker 5>to know the real me, it was almost like a shock.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like, whoa, you're actually quite rough around the edges,

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<v Speaker 5>Like you're not rich like what I think you are.

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<v Speaker 5>Your family on loaded with like a five bedroom mantra,

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<v Speaker 5>and you haven't had like the best upbringing, and I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like that's kind of not what I'm looking.

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<v Speaker 3>For to say that to you.

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<v Speaker 5>Or well, yeah's His family actually had a conversation with

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<v Speaker 5>him and said, I just don't think she's the right

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<v Speaker 5>girl for you because of, for one, her background. I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like you need to be with a woman who

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<v Speaker 5>has a more stable family background. Oh my god, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I just think little comments like that was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe you don't actually love me for me. You just

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<v Speaker 5>love the Chloe that you thought I was, And that's okay.

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<v Speaker 5>I just didn't realize that that would be the type

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<v Speaker 5>of person that I would end up falling into dating

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<v Speaker 5>because of being in It's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that that is like the craziest one of

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<v Speaker 2>the craziest things I reckon I've heard, Like for someone

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<v Speaker 2>to even think that that's like an important component of

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<v Speaker 2>a good relationship just blows my mind.

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<v Speaker 4>Did he come from a wealthy, well off family in America?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well his family actually made it from nothing, so

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like he should have had more empathy with

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<v Speaker 5>my background. But I mean, I mean, ever since he's

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<v Speaker 5>been born, he's lived in like nice, big houses, his

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<v Speaker 5>family have stayed together, and now they live in a

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<v Speaker 5>massive fucking house in Orange County, and it's very different

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<v Speaker 5>to my background. I mean, his parents are lovely. I

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<v Speaker 5>can't fault them, but I just think because our families

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<v Speaker 5>were so different, and our backgrounds are so different, and

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<v Speaker 5>our hometowns and our school life and our friendships and

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<v Speaker 5>childhoods were so different, he just couldn't get his head

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<v Speaker 5>around the idea that he would be marrying into the family.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's just a bit like, Okay, that.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy sounds awful.

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<v Speaker 4>One of those preppies you know in the movies, the

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<v Speaker 4>college movies, who is like the Polos And he's really arrogant,

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<v Speaker 4>Like that's I have a picture of.

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<v Speaker 5>That as well. Yeah, very judgmental, very judgmental.

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<v Speaker 3>What are your green flags of dating? Then?

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<v Speaker 5>So my green flags when I look at I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>all all flags are green flags for me, because I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not all of the red ones.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the best answer I have ever heard, and it

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<v Speaker 4>explains me.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no such thing as a red flag.

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<v Speaker 5>I do ever spot any red flags. I'm just like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe I can turn it green.

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<v Speaker 2>So would you say again, so, would you say that

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<v Speaker 2>you tend to attract like the quintessential fuck boy?

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't say anymore. I wouldn't say that I attract

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<v Speaker 5>the fuck boy. But because I've been from a phase

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<v Speaker 5>of dating fuck boys, dating guys that don't like me

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<v Speaker 5>or I don't know, falling into relationships after relationships, and

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like now I'm at a point in my

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<v Speaker 5>life where I'm starting to date outside my comfort zone.

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<v Speaker 5>So I have a type which is like all dark,

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<v Speaker 5>handsome tattoes, sleeves, like really kind of all streetwear vibe.

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<v Speaker 5>But sometimes I need to sway away from that because

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<v Speaker 5>I felt like I was trapped in a cycle of

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<v Speaker 5>just forever ending shit and I need pull myself out

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<v Speaker 5>of that and then start dating different men. So that's

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<v Speaker 5>what I've done in America. I started dating the hockey

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<v Speaker 5>player and then quickly realized that I probably should not

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<v Speaker 5>sway away from why I know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the devil. You know, the devil you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I know. It's all less and right. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like we date and then we just slowly like

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<v Speaker 2>get more and more wisdom, and then eventually it gets

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<v Speaker 2>to a point where you're just like, I'm taking no

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<v Speaker 2>fucking shit, and like, if I see even a glimpse

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<v Speaker 2>of my ex and you you're out.

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<v Speaker 5>That's exactly what. That's the position I'm in right now.

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<v Speaker 5>I've dated's so much where I'm so wise.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, about green.

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<v Speaker 5>Flags and red flags. There're a point where you get

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<v Speaker 5>too paranoid about what if. Because I feel like sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>when I look at a guy that I'm dating, if

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<v Speaker 5>if he reminds me a slight bit of my ex,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm like, and then I start getting in a panic.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you dating at the moment, I'm not, No, no,

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<v Speaker 4>just back at home relaxing with your parents.

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<v Speaker 5>Then yeah, yeah, I'm just chilling.

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<v Speaker 2>What's an eck for you? I guess in relationships, like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's something that even if you're just like dating someone

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<v Speaker 2>that where they'll do something and you're like, ugh, I'm out,

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<v Speaker 2>Like yug.

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<v Speaker 5>If they have long toenails, that's one of my eggs.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so gros who has long toenails? Like who lets

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<v Speaker 4>them get them long?

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<v Speaker 5>Just cut them long? Doughtymails.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Nah, I would say to this guy and his

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<v Speaker 2>like pinky toenail was like so long, and I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to say cut it, but I was like, maybe he

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<v Speaker 2>can't cut it because it's like the only one that's long.

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<v Speaker 5>It was so gross. It's giving me the ick.

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<v Speaker 2>Now just thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're saying before, if you see like the toxic

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<v Speaker 4>traits of your ex in one of your new guys

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<v Speaker 4>you're dating, what would they be Like, what would something

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<v Speaker 4>be that you'd notice And you're like, nuh, that's it

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<v Speaker 4>for me.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I've recently just found out new toxic traits, which

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<v Speaker 5>would be I think, constantly being on the phone to

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<v Speaker 5>someone when you're out of your friends and having them

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<v Speaker 5>call you or text you constantly because they're worried about you,

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<v Speaker 5>worry about your safety. It's like you're not, You're just

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<v Speaker 5>paranoid that I'm hooking up with someone else, or you

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<v Speaker 5>want to make sure that I am where I am

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<v Speaker 5>with who I said I was going to be with.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think it's really hard to separate the two

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<v Speaker 5>in your own mind when you're in that relationship, because

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<v Speaker 5>you automatically think, well, they wouldn't be checking up on

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<v Speaker 5>me because they trust me, they love me, they just

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<v Speaker 5>care about me, when actually, now I'm out of that bubble,

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<v Speaker 5>it was very controlling. I've had phone calls from xars

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<v Speaker 5>where they've been howling down the phone, I feel really poorly,

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<v Speaker 5>can you come home? Or they just start an argument

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<v Speaker 5>for me to go home, and it's like, just let

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<v Speaker 5>me have some fun with my friends. I don't drink.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sober, so just I'm fine. I'm drinking dr pepper.

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<v Speaker 2>How is dating sober?

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<v Speaker 5>It took a little while to get used to when

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<v Speaker 5>I first was ober, But to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 5>when I first got sober, I wasn't really dating anyone.

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<v Speaker 5>I just wanted that solid period of time to just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of get my head right, to improve my life

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<v Speaker 5>and my mental ability, and just kind of work on

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<v Speaker 5>my health a little bit. And then when I did

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<v Speaker 5>start dating, it was it was nice because I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>have to have a shot in tequila for confidence. I

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<v Speaker 5>kind of learned how skin.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to do that, and I.

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<v Speaker 5>To be honest, it would get to a point where

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<v Speaker 5>I'd go out, I'd have a few drinks and I

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<v Speaker 5>wouldn't want to sit and talk to him anyway. I'd

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<v Speaker 5>want to be up dancing, so there wouldn't be any

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<v Speaker 5>date going on. So me being gives me that clarity

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<v Speaker 5>straight away do I like this person or not? And

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<v Speaker 5>it's not cloud in my judgment because after a few

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<v Speaker 5>two I'm like, do you want to come home with me?

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<v Speaker 4>What made you go on this sober journey? Because Anna

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<v Speaker 4>and myself are doing drivel at the moment. We constantly yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we constantly say that we want to like quit alcohol,

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<v Speaker 4>yeah completely, But I just find in like social environments,

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<v Speaker 4>I feel a lot at ease like with alcohol, but

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<v Speaker 4>I'm very respectful. And what's the word admirable that you

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<v Speaker 4>can actually quit it? Like it's yeah, it's cool.

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<v Speaker 5>So it isn't just me the I mean, how do

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<v Speaker 5>I say this. I haven't stopped drinking because I have willpower.

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<v Speaker 5>I stopped drinking because I hit rock bottom. I knew

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<v Speaker 5>I needed help. I knew I had an alcohol problem.

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<v Speaker 5>And as soon as I admitted that, and I was

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<v Speaker 5>ready to surrender. I started going to meetings like AA meetings,

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<v Speaker 5>c A meets, like anonymous meetings, and I met a

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<v Speaker 5>group of people that had the same issue, that were

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<v Speaker 5>around the same age, that had like two or three

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<v Speaker 5>years sobriety, and I thought, I want what you have

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<v Speaker 5>teach me? How do you faceb And what I've come

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<v Speaker 5>to learn is that addiction is a disease, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 5>allergic to alcohol. As soon as I put one in me,

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<v Speaker 5>I want more. As soon as I put anything, mind,

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<v Speaker 5>dot or in in me, I want more. So understanding

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<v Speaker 5>what happens when I take that first drink and then

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<v Speaker 5>the effect that it leaves you with afterwards, that was

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<v Speaker 5>step one for me. It was like, Okay, I've now

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<v Speaker 5>fully conceded to mine and my self that I am

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<v Speaker 5>an addict. What do I do about it? Then you

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<v Speaker 5>go through the twelve step program, so you kind of

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<v Speaker 5>go through these steps of clearing out all of your

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<v Speaker 5>dark secrets and resentments anyone that you have had problems

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<v Speaker 5>with in the past, and then you go for a

0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:56.560
<v Speaker 5>beautiful stage of amends, so you say sorry to people

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<v Speaker 5>that you may have hurt for your drinking, or your

0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.399
<v Speaker 5>family members of worried about you and your drinking, and

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<v Speaker 5>then when you get towards the end, it's almost like

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<v Speaker 5>you can then help someone else that wants to get

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<v Speaker 5>sober by continuing to go through the twelve steps with

0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.040
<v Speaker 5>that person that is new ends. It's like a chain

0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:18.760
<v Speaker 5>of people that stay sober. And I'm so glad that

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<v Speaker 5>I found recovery because it's changed my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so inspiring, and like Matt and I talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it all the time and.

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<v Speaker 4>Constantly send each other tiktoks and like reels of people

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<v Speaker 4>talking about like, yeah, their sober journey and how they

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<v Speaker 4>get the clarity and how their life changes once they've

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<v Speaker 4>quit drinking. So it's definitely something I want to do.

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<v Speaker 4>I just got to find that, not wheel power. I

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<v Speaker 4>saw Tom Holland speak about it and he was saying

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<v Speaker 4>how he just relied on it. Yeah, recently on a

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<v Speaker 4>Jay Shaddy thing, and he was talking about how he'd

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<v Speaker 4>rely on it in like social environments, and I'm the same,

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<v Speaker 4>like I want to be able to go out and

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<v Speaker 4>not like where's my next drink? Where I always want

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<v Speaker 4>to drink in my hand.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean I was just going to say. The

0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:06.199
<v Speaker 5>one thing about sobriety and stuff and becoming sober is

0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:08.679
<v Speaker 5>it's hard at the beginning. At the beginning, you're like

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<v Speaker 5>this is so weird, like I'm out and I'm not drinking.

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<v Speaker 5>But when you pass the thirty daymark, try and get

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<v Speaker 5>try and get through the first week and the second week,

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<v Speaker 5>like every day, every day as it comes, and then

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<v Speaker 5>when you get to the thirty daymark, it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>I've kind of proved to myself that I can do

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<v Speaker 5>it and I don't have to do it in social settings,

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<v Speaker 5>and then you start to feel more comfortable because at

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<v Speaker 5>the beginning it's like it feels really weird, but push

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<v Speaker 5>to that thirty day mark and you should feel much

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<v Speaker 5>when you're out in social.

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<v Speaker 4>Sense, how do you go with drunk people around you

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<v Speaker 4>when you're sober? Because when I'm sober and I say

0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:46.800
<v Speaker 4>someone drunk, that actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Shoots me to tears as well. So yeah, yeah, I

0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.080
<v Speaker 3>don't know about that. Maybe I drink just to.

0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:56.000
<v Speaker 5>You know, just block out everyone else's drunk.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, drunkness.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I've had partners that drink around me. I've

0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:03.600
<v Speaker 5>had friends that have been really drunk around me. I mean,

0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.760
<v Speaker 5>if they're really drunk, it really pisces me off. I'm like,

0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:12.280
<v Speaker 5>you need some water. But if a mum mode kicks in,

0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:15.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm the designated driver. I'm the one that makes sure

0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:19.360
<v Speaker 5>everyone's home safe and sound. I'm the one that stops

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<v Speaker 5>off at a kebab shop or a piece of place

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<v Speaker 5>on them, you know. So it's nice to feel like

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<v Speaker 5>I'm the mum of the group.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have to answer this question, but you did

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<v Speaker 2>mention that there was like a rock bottom. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>like comfortable talking about that or.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, definitely, I mean without going into too much detail

0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:45.960
<v Speaker 5>because that I'll be here for a long time. It

0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:49.520
<v Speaker 5>kind of progressed. So what you're taught in sobriety is

0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:53.639
<v Speaker 5>that when you sit down with your sponsor, the person

0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:55.960
<v Speaker 5>that's teaching you how to be sober dislike they are,

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<v Speaker 5>they help you kind of analyze your life. So started

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<v Speaker 5>when I was really young. I was like thirteen fourteen,

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<v Speaker 5>when I was like going to parks drinking vodka and

0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:13.359
<v Speaker 5>drinking other alcohol. And then as I as I got older,

0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:15.960
<v Speaker 5>it started to become more normalized because I was around

0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:20.080
<v Speaker 5>people that were always doing it and smoking and all

0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:22.800
<v Speaker 5>of that malarkey, and then as I got older and

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<v Speaker 5>older and then two to hand all come out and

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<v Speaker 5>then lockdown happened. It was like what am I going

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<v Speaker 5>to do? House parties? And then it kind of went

0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:36.320
<v Speaker 5>from just being isolated to just being around loads of

0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:38.520
<v Speaker 5>people that just wanted to party all the time, and

0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:40.680
<v Speaker 5>I was getting money coming I didn't have a nine

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<v Speaker 5>to five job. Lockdown was in effect, and then when

0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:46.919
<v Speaker 5>the party would stop, I would be at home on

0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:51.399
<v Speaker 5>my own, depressed, and then the suicidal thoughts started creeping in.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd say about five or six months after, wasn't really

0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:03.119
<v Speaker 5>in a good headspace for a long time. I was really, really,

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<v Speaker 5>really down, and it was hard for me to admit

0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:09.760
<v Speaker 5>that I was depressed because I had, like, in everyone's

0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:12.159
<v Speaker 5>point of view, it was like, she's just been on Netflix,

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:16.000
<v Speaker 5>she's got her dream car, she's got millions of follow

0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:20.280
<v Speaker 5>us on Instagram, Like what is this girl? Got to

0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:23.520
<v Speaker 5>moan about what's wrong with her? So I almost felt

0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:28.600
<v Speaker 5>like my depression was invalidated because of what I actually had.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's just coming to accept that you can be

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<v Speaker 5>depressed and also have materialistic things. That's kind of made

0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:44.120
<v Speaker 5>me value almost coming from nothing because it was like, Okay, well,

0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:46.800
<v Speaker 5>now I've kind of I've tested and trialed all of

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:49.080
<v Speaker 5>this materialistic stuff. I know it's not going to keep

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<v Speaker 5>me happy if I don't keep myself in check. My

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<v Speaker 5>rock bottom happened over numerous amounts of occasions. It's like

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<v Speaker 5>a concoction of just little things that just kind of

0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:00.400
<v Speaker 5>built up to the point where I was like, I'm

0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:03.119
<v Speaker 5>going to explode. And my mum and dad started to

0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 5>notice that I wasn't answering my phone, I wasn't texting

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 5>them back. I didn't really care. I stopped seeing my

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:11.640
<v Speaker 5>nieces and nephews, stop going around the house. I would

0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:15.760
<v Speaker 5>make commitments but never commit to them. I would say

0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:17.720
<v Speaker 5>that I would go out on a family trip or

0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:20.160
<v Speaker 5>a dinner, and I wouldn't turn up. I just wouldn't care.

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 5>And that's not like me. And they started to notice

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 5>that I was changing rapidly, and it just progressed over

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<v Speaker 5>time to me just in my flat on my own,

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:36.520
<v Speaker 5>drinking by myself and just being really messy. My personal

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 5>hygiene went down the window. I didn't care for anything.

0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:41.399
<v Speaker 5>I couldn't get out of bed, and it just got

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 5>to a point where I just wanted to I wanted

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:46.760
<v Speaker 5>to kill myself. I spoke to my dad and he's

0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:49.359
<v Speaker 5>been to rehab and he's in recovery and he's sober.

0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:51.720
<v Speaker 5>So he was like, I can see the science clo, like,

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 5>your progression has gone from this to this in the

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 5>space of nearly a year. You need to kind of

0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:02.919
<v Speaker 5>golf out. So I went to an and then I

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 5>got sober. So yeah, I mean I could have another

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:11.639
<v Speaker 5>rock bomb, yeah, but that you know, everyone's rock bottoms

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:15.160
<v Speaker 5>are different, and I could keep digging if I wanted to. Yeah,

0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 5>but I just put that realization in place.

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Thank you for sharing. It's so powerful just hearing me

0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:25.119
<v Speaker 2>say it, because I like, I don't talk to or

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 2>hear a lot of people kind of like tell their story.

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:30.880
<v Speaker 2>So thank you so much for sharing. It's very powerful,

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:31.359
<v Speaker 2>and it's.

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:33.560
<v Speaker 4>Very powerful that you actually noticed that you were there

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 4>as well and had the ability to get yourself out

0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 4>and now obviously you're doing a lot better than you were.

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:43.680
<v Speaker 4>Then would you say reality TV because you're saying how

0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:45.960
<v Speaker 4>it all came at the same time, would you say

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:49.359
<v Speaker 4>reality TV like affected your mental health at the same time,

0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:51.040
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I.

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:55.679
<v Speaker 5>Have thought about this. I mean I just think me

0:25:56.000 --> 0:26:04.639
<v Speaker 5>being nineteen twenty. Yeah, all the tools and all of

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 5>the support of people around me, but not knowing how

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 5>to use it. I just my management at the time

0:26:11.160 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 5>could have been more efficient. Really. I had quite a

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 5>few conversations with them about my depression, about my suicidal

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:24.680
<v Speaker 5>thoughts and not knowing what purpose I had. It was

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:28.400
<v Speaker 5>almost like, You're going to take pictures for Instagram and

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:31.240
<v Speaker 5>you're going to do a show every other year, every year,

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 5>and then that's your life. Whereas when I was young,

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 5>I wanted to be a paramedic. I wanted to be

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:41.360
<v Speaker 5>a midwife. So it's like my world has completely changed

0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:47.440
<v Speaker 5>and it's hard to grasp, like, Okay, so what's my purpose?

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:50.400
<v Speaker 5>What does Chloe do on a day to day basis

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 5>rather than take pictures? And I don't want to sound ungrateful,

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 5>because I'm extremely grateful for what I do. I just

0:26:57.080 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 5>think with a little bit more guidance, I think it

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:04.640
<v Speaker 5>could have it's it could have de escalated the situation

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 5>a little bit. But I mean, everything happens for a reason,

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 5>I guess.

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:09.400
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 4>Have you ever thought about going back and studying to

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 4>be a midwife or a paramedic?

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:18.639
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? I have, Yeah, I have I'm waiting for my

0:27:18.680 --> 0:27:22.159
<v Speaker 5>besa to go over to America for a couple of years.

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 5>So hopefully when I'm out there, I can go to

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 5>university or college and just study something like I loved

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:31.119
<v Speaker 5>learning about people.

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 2>You're also only twenty four, Like really the world is

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 2>your owayster, Like there's you can do it all and

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:42.120
<v Speaker 2>it's like so exciting. Do you receive Obviously you mentioned

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 2>that you do have lots of followers on social media,

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 2>and we know that what comes with that can sometimes

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 2>be very negative. What is it like for you receiving

0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 2>like hate? Do you receive hate?

0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 4>Not?

0:27:56.680 --> 0:28:01.119
<v Speaker 5>Really, to be honest with you, I'm quite I'm quite glad.

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 5>I'm quite grateful. I think Netflix's audience are less toxic

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:11.639
<v Speaker 5>than the UK television shows like Love Island. Matt, I

0:28:11.680 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 5>don't know if you got any hate going on or

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 5>coming off of Love Island? Did you?

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 3>I was.

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:21.080
<v Speaker 4>I was quite polarizing, so I was like really, like

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 4>fifty to fifty people didn't quite understand my emotional side

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 4>and all that. So a lot of like people in

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 4>Australia see an emotional man cry and they're like, well,

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 4>what's he crying for? And I got a lot of

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.960
<v Speaker 4>hate around that and a lot of like bullying.

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 3>And stuff like that. But I yeah, I.

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 4>Thought it, you know, it's like part of it. I

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 4>didn't let it get to me that much.

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. The UK love Yeah, the UK love Islands. Yeah. Yeah.

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 2>Therefore on when I came off the show, I didn't

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 2>really get much hate. I was lucky as well, but

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 2>like there's obviously things that have happened since where it's

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 2>been like quite full on and I'm like, people are hectic.

0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 4>When I say, I don't mean so much like people

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:07.959
<v Speaker 4>like like you fuck you.

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 3>It was just like you're a silk.

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 4>They sent me like memes of people crying and stuff

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 4>like that.

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 3>We were having at the time.

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 4>We had like really bad bushfires in Australia when the

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 4>show ended, and I had a lot of messages of

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 4>people telling me if my plane could fly over so

0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 4>I could put him out.

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 2>No, just be like real men cry is what it is.

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 3>I respected the creativity of it. I thought that's quite funny.

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 7>So I was like, yeah, Savage, I mean, if you

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:50.920
<v Speaker 7>can't see a grown man cry and it makes you

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 7>feel uncomfortable, I think the problems with you totally.

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I agree.

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 5>I love it. You're you're safe with us.

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 3>Hey, when you ghosted me, I did cry.

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 2>So you've not forgotten that, have you.

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 3>We refreshed it in my memory before and I was like, that's.

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 5>Right, that's got a resentment. He resents me.

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't. It's all fair, it's all fair, like, it's

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 3>all fair.

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Love, fair love, and it's still the one girl that

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 2>rejected and we can't take it.

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 3>For long years, Chloe, for long years.

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 5>Oh god.

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I did see on your social media because I suffer

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot with uties, and I saw recently you posted

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 2>something about ut eyes and I was wondering if you

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 2>could explain it to our audience.

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 3>Because we usually spoke about it.

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 2>We spoke about it on our podcast because I was like,

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Chloe has spoken about some sort of cure for ut

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 2>I's like, what is this, right?

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 5>I am literally an advocate for fucking you two eyes.

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm not even joking. Since I was really young, and

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 5>I got to a point where I thought it was normal,

0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 5>because when you experience something for a length of period

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 5>of time from like a young age, it's like, Okay,

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 5>this is obviously just what happens to women, right, And

0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 5>I think we're so caught up in our heads as women.

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 5>This must be normal. Period cramps are really bad. This

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 5>is normal, Like it's fine. And every time I go

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 5>to the hospital and I'm like, oh, because I don't

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 5>go to the GPO or the doctor's surgery, I have

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 5>to go to a hospital because as soon as I

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 5>get a water we call it a water infection. So

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 5>as soon as I get a water infection, I start

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 5>urinating blood within two days. You want a drip, it

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 5>goes to so I have to act on it like instantly.

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:00.720
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 5>And what they do is they give me antibiotics. And

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 5>I went to America for three months and I had

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 5>four water infections, four in the space. So I was

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 5>taking endless amounts of antibiotics. I was ill. I felt

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 5>really run down. I was tired all the time. My

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 5>immune system was shot to bits. And when I come home,

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 5>I said, you know what, enough's enough. I'm going to

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 5>a private hospital. So I paid this doctor two hundred

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 5>pounds for a consultation and he said, it's very abnormal

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 5>to be having that many utwo eyes. I had loads

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 5>of tests scans. I had to we in a toilet

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 5>with a sensor to sense how hard I am urinating

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 5>and how much is less awkwards? Wow, meal of my

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 5>urine was kept in my bladder after I actually thought

0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 5>i'd finished to go to the toilet, So that was

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 5>what the problem was. My urethed throat was too tight,

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 5>so it couldn't actually really leave my blood as if

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 5>it was. It was curating bacteria in my blood are

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 5>So I had my ureth stretched in surgery and I

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 5>haven't had one since and it's been about eight mo.

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 2>Even just hearing you just like talking about it is

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 2>so validating to me because I like come on the

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 2>podcast like every week and I'm like, I've got another uti,

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 2>another UTI, and it isn't so traumatic it's so painful.

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 2>It's just like so frustrating. I don't know, like I've

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 2>done like lots of testing, like I've had a sistoscopy

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 2>and they were like like everything's normal, and just hearing

0:33:45.560 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 2>you talk about it, it's just like very very validating

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:53.160
<v Speaker 2>to hear. But it's so interesting because I've never heard

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 2>anyone talk about like that, what is it your urethra

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 2>whole being too tight?

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, so they said that, So there's certain muscles down

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 8>there I don't know where, but it couldn't it couldn't

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 8>clench to a point of when you WI, you we

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 8>are certain amounts your blood is blood does not fall,

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 8>but it can still You're in in.

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 5>There without you knowing. And they didn't know that until

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:25.879
<v Speaker 5>I had heart. Like I had so many tests day

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 5>after day after day, and I was like, I am

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.280
<v Speaker 5>not stopping until you know what's wrong with me. Because

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 5>the scans that I had were like, you're fine. The

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 5>camera up. My bladdut was like, you're fine, but he

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 5>struggled to get the camera in my eurefa and he

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:41.839
<v Speaker 5>was like, this is weird. And then he thought, hang

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 5>on a second, your urefa is probably too tight, and

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 5>also is they put you under sedation and then they

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 5>put a tube inside your urefra and then they blow

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:55.760
<v Speaker 5>it up with air to stretch. It takes about twenty

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 5>five minutes. And for someone that used to have them constantly,

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 5>I can now say touch would Yeah.

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:07.399
<v Speaker 2>How is the recovery for that?

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:08.320
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 2>I was like, how is it with the pain after.

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:13.280
<v Speaker 5>I couldn't have sex?

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:13.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 5>Makes sense for like two weeks, which is fine.

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:19.479
<v Speaker 3>Long time.

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 5>It stings a tiny bit for like a few days

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 5>afterwards when you're WI, but other than that, you're fine,

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:30.760
<v Speaker 5>Like it's I would go through it a thousand times

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 5>over part.

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 4>Of my ignorance, But wouldn't it just go back to

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:37.839
<v Speaker 4>the normal size if all you're doing is blowing it up?

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 5>It does, Yeah, it does, So it goes back after

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 5>six months. I think that's forty it's only forty percent

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 5>of patients that get this done it actually stays. But

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 5>the pain that I was in every time I had

0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 5>a uty, I just I was like, listen, I'll try it.

0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 5>If it doesn't work, then I'll just have to get

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 5>it done again. And if that means once or twice

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 5>a year getting it blown up again, I will happily

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 5>go ahead. Because it's like paying for all these prescriptions

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:12.000
<v Speaker 5>and having to go to hospital all these early hours

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:14.879
<v Speaker 5>in the morning, or it spread into my kidneys, and

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 5>having to go on all these antibiotics, And I think

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 5>it's much worth paying the money to get the surgery

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 5>done once a year.

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, how have you helped your body to recover after

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:28.840
<v Speaker 2>all the antibiotics, because that's something that I've kind of

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 2>been dealing with, like trying to flush out all of

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 2>the antibiotics and like get good bacteria into my body again.

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 5>So have you heard of probiotics? Yeah, you should really

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:45.359
<v Speaker 5>be taking them during and after or like every day,

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 5>just every day. You can get it in liquid form,

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:49.360
<v Speaker 5>you can get it in sashets, you can get it

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 5>in vitamin form, and you can just take it whenever.

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:57.080
<v Speaker 5>So it just it restores your good bacteria in your gut. Yeah,

0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:02.840
<v Speaker 5>oh my god, this one's for you. If you have

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 5>a ut I and you take antibiotics. Yeah, and you're

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 5>constantly taking antibiotics, Do you get thrush because of taking I.

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Used to, but in more recent times I haven't, but

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 2>I did. I did see this thing where it says,

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 2>like to get rid of thrush, you like take a

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 2>warm bath with apple side of vinegar, like a cup

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:26.920
<v Speaker 2>of apple side of vinegar in it, and it like

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 2>stocks a thrush. A little tip for everyone. Last thing,

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:38.720
<v Speaker 2>Caniston cannision is like thrush. So it's like free yease infection.

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 5>I've used some of that and it's disgusting. I remember,

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:47.719
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, no too much information. It's like you

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:52.319
<v Speaker 5>you syringe it in. Yeah, no one warned. I thought

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 5>it would just dissolve. Yeah, and put money because on

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 5>put a little bit of tissue there just in case

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:01.279
<v Speaker 5>you know excess. Yeah, and I'm walking around. I was

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 5>in an airport and oh, what's that? It was a

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 5>bit weird. I got on the plane. I got on

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 5>the plane, went in the toilet, pulled my knickers down.

0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 5>I nearly had a heart attack. Mate, there was this

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:27.720
<v Speaker 5>thick cottage cheese looking motherfucker in my knickers. I thought,

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 5>I think I need an ambulance. And I'm a fifty

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 5>thousand bye, So what did I do? I called an

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 5>air hostess, really sorry, but I think I'm having an

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:42.400
<v Speaker 5>allergic reaction in why vagina? Can you help me? And

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 5>I showed her and she did, That's just the Caniston tablet.

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 5>It's doing its thing. Let it, let it run its course.

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 5>I was so embarrassed. I wasted.

0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 4>So did the dish discharge the thrush thing and that's

0:38:57.480 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 4>what it was.

0:38:58.760 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 5>No, it was a tablet.

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 2>So the tablet, the tallet.

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 5>And then once it's kind of coated your vagina, it

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 5>just comes back out.

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 4>Wow, medicine is so fascinating.

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:18.439
<v Speaker 2>Every time I come on this podcast, I love it.

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 4>I would probably never have known that unless you told

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 4>me that, to be fair, like, when would that?

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Ever?

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:26.840
<v Speaker 5>I don't think you'll be needing.

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:28.879
<v Speaker 3>It's going to come up in my life.

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 2>If you have a girlfriend or you're seeing someone and

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:34.400
<v Speaker 2>they're like, I think there's this cottage cheasing, You're like,

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 2>I know what that is.

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:38.239
<v Speaker 3>I've got don't stress.

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 2>You've been on too hot to handle, you've been on

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:44.719
<v Speaker 2>the circle. What's your favorite show to go on?

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 5>So? I went on a show in the UK called

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:58.760
<v Speaker 5>Hunted and I love it. It's one of the biggest

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 5>shows in the UK and basically you kind of go

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 5>on the run from the police for as it's like

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 5>a charity. You're raising money to help your cancer or whatever,

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:14.240
<v Speaker 5>and you're partnered up with someone and I was partnered

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 5>up with Vivian, who's a drag queen and she's hilarious.

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 5>We were on the run for like two weeks. We

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 5>had to hitchhike everywhere. We had to camp in fields,

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 5>in farmers fields, we had to ask members of the

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 5>public for money because we couldn't eat, we were starved.

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:34.840
<v Speaker 5>It was like a real eye opening experience to like

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 5>how strong mentally I actually am. I broke my finger

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:43.319
<v Speaker 5>on the show. I fell over running away from and

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:46.000
<v Speaker 5>I snapped my finger in three places. And now it's

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:48.880
<v Speaker 5>permanent dark. I can't bend it. I've got metal around

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 5>my bone, but I continued to run. I didn't give up.

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:56.240
<v Speaker 3>How long did you last?

0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:58.799
<v Speaker 5>Well, we came second, so we got caught on the

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:04.439
<v Speaker 5>day traction. Yeah, and there was like Olympians. That's the team.

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 2>So good, so very Yeah impressive, that's very impressive.

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 4>It's coming out in Australia again. Yeah, but they get

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 4>just like people to do it from the public. And

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 4>I might watch it now after you spoken to you

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 4>about it. I've always been intrigued. Yeah.

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Is this the celebrity edition that you did of this?

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so they normally do like civilians, Yeah, but they

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:30.400
<v Speaker 5>have a special celebrity edition. They they've actually had a

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:33.279
<v Speaker 5>couple of seasons. To be fair, it's really good.

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:36.799
<v Speaker 2>It's so fun, really good. I love that. I love

0:41:36.800 --> 0:41:38.879
<v Speaker 2>it that that's your favorite one because it's like it's

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 2>almost like all of the other shows are amazing, but

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:44.760
<v Speaker 2>like it's kind of like the accomplishment of that show

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 2>is the thing that makes it like your favorite, which

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:48.319
<v Speaker 2>I kind of love.

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.839
<v Speaker 5>I think the dating shows at the minute that I reckon,

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 5>they'll get boring.

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I'm like, oh, I want to find well

0:41:56.800 --> 0:41:58.360
<v Speaker 4>did you realize when you went on Too Hot to

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 4>Handle that it was going to be as big.

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:00.839
<v Speaker 3>As it was?

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Not?

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 5>Even the executives, Like I remember one of the executives

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 5>called me and he was like fuck, And I was like,

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 5>I know, expecting this, but they were really good to

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 5>be fair, Like during lockdown and the show first come out,

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:24.279
<v Speaker 5>we had like a team of therapists and psychs call

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:28.680
<v Speaker 5>us and ask people about okay and stuff. But yeah,

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 5>it was fun, really fun. Arianna Grande followed.

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:38.680
<v Speaker 8>Me, and then, yeah, it doesn't it.

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 4>That's like, are you going to give it to me?

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:50.919
<v Speaker 4>I will take it, don't. I don't crack the door

0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:51.959
<v Speaker 4>because I'll kick it off.

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Ariana Madday is your favorite man. Ever, Yes, you need to.

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 5>You need to get the message up because I need

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 5>to know what our conversation looked like.

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, you know what I shouldn't admit to that.

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Do you have them?

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 3>I deleted them?

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Cloe is like, god, yeah, Chloe, what show is

0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:16.920
<v Speaker 2>next for you?

0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:26.400
<v Speaker 5>Oh? How do I say it? There's some internal conversations

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 5>with Netflix about me that's excitingly doing something with them.

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, that's that's what's next. I think. Yeah, I've

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:40.120
<v Speaker 5>also been asked to go on a show in the

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 5>UK that is a dating show, but I can't say

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 5>what one just share obviously, but when it's out it'll

0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:48.760
<v Speaker 5>be all over social media.

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 2>So so exciting.

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:52.600
<v Speaker 3>Is there any shows then that you want to be on?

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:55.719
<v Speaker 4>Maybe you could answer that like that you've seen in

0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 4>the reality world and you're like, hey, I'd be good

0:43:57.719 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 4>at that.

0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:03.439
<v Speaker 5>I was thinking, Kim, maybe if I gained a little

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:05.359
<v Speaker 5>bit more weight Survivor.

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Survivor, Yeah, I want to that would be a great challenge.

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Do you want to do that?

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:10.720
<v Speaker 3>I want to do naked and afraid?

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Naked afraid that's.

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:17.240
<v Speaker 5>Right, my fine feel comfortable getting proper nude?

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no way, I would hate that. That's like my

0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 2>idea of a living nightmare.

0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 4>Like the camera crew you're like trying to start a

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:29.799
<v Speaker 4>fire and naked, and.

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 5>Like I would be so paranoid that bugs would try

0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 5>and call up my jack.

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 3>It's true, it happens.

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 2>We actually had this conversation because we were talking about

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:42.280
<v Speaker 2>I was saying like, maybe like uty eyes were because

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 2>like everyone has laser hair removal these days. But then

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:49.719
<v Speaker 2>we were like, no, but like underwear stops the bacteria.

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 2>But if you're doing Naked and Afraid and you've had

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 2>laser hair removal, like you're cooked. Like i'd have beauty

0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 2>eyes like all day every day. It would be hell.

0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 2>You have to get the surgery, probably have.

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:03.319
<v Speaker 3>Before you go on.

0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 2>You're at the expansion, So you did mention before that

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:09.840
<v Speaker 2>you are trying to get a visa to move to.

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:12.759
<v Speaker 2>Is it La that you're thinking of moving to.

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:18.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So it's such a long process. Honestly, it's not

0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 5>just as simple as can I come to America, give

0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:24.960
<v Speaker 5>me a visa. There's so much work that goes into it,

0:45:25.160 --> 0:45:30.239
<v Speaker 5>Like you need to prove everything about you, and you

0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:34.360
<v Speaker 5>need to have at least fifteen people write references, statement,

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:40.160
<v Speaker 5>you need to be sponsored by a company. It's just crazy.

0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 5>But I'm at the final stages. It should be done

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:47.440
<v Speaker 5>in the next couple of weeks and then hopefully we

0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:49.040
<v Speaker 5>can send it off and get my visa back in

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 5>the next couple of months. But they're saying it's going

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:53.440
<v Speaker 5>to take around five months.

0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, Chloe, thank you so much for coming on our podcast.

0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:02.040
<v Speaker 2>It's been an absolute pleasure having you. Good luck with

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:04.840
<v Speaker 2>your visa and we will be watching with our eyes

0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:08.319
<v Speaker 2>appeal to see what this Netflix little thing is and

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 2>everything else that you.

0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:12.279
<v Speaker 4>Have and is going to go look into getting that

0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 4>surgery now for a UTR, as I can tell.

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you for talking to me about uts I

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:19.239
<v Speaker 2>thoroughly enjoyed it.

0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:23.600
<v Speaker 5>Oh my darling, thank you so much for having me on.

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:27.680
<v Speaker 5>And I actually didn't realize that I followed you up.

0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 3>To be fair, look, I'm actually I'm choking. I'm not

0:46:32.760 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 3>as I'm not as hung up as I'm putting.

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:35.319
<v Speaker 5>On for.

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:48.239
<v Speaker 3>I love you. Yeah the oh, thank you