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Speaker 1: Welcome to AL three sixty Rugby League from every angle,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Regain. The race to the Premiership

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Speaker 1: is down to just four teams after an epic weekend

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Speaker 1: of semi finals football.

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Speaker 2: As the Panthers and.

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Speaker 1: Sharks prepare for a prelim showdown, two heavyweight contenders are

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Speaker 1: left wondering where it all went wrong.

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Speaker 3: They have had any dream season? The Raiders in the

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Speaker 3: Sharks right here, Trindle hard set up the left.

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Speaker 2: What a fuss by Turner, the.

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Speaker 3: Schools grid, Triddle there, flick post.

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Speaker 4: Hugs Dad again, I know we just deep Mike.

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Speaker 3: Up now one last play They go on the short

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Speaker 3: side again and well, Tanna's gone. Where does Sharks fans

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Speaker 3: have gone up? Some only crazy twenty unanswered points and

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Speaker 3: throw the prelimb fire. It's the Panthers and the Bulldogs

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Speaker 3: replacing against the Broncos. We're under the way here in

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Speaker 3: the city, five meters out edwards to clearing.

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Speaker 2: It comes to the middle.

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Speaker 3: Lindy Spith keeple going, sorrezon and McLean.

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Speaker 2: Likewise, Tara for the corner.

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Speaker 3: Let's try and go to the Panthers for second. Here

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Speaker 3: Edwards tip on again. Tell the money off the back

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Speaker 3: of Tuggle still going Allabody's goes the former Budog takes

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Speaker 3: a number two for the Panthers. I'm believing and in

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Speaker 3: that's humble for Allabody gets away from it.

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Speaker 2: A karma back on the inside. Terry is there.

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Speaker 3: The Panthers strike once again. He's clearing to Loundy McLean

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Speaker 3: stands clearing rapping chosen dummy gets.

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Speaker 5: It the top of picks.

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Speaker 3: Backod Feld Lady is there and everybody.

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Speaker 2: Get to try Yo clearing the heads again.

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Speaker 3: Tunle hell the buddy.

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Speaker 6: For a Mattrek on a big, big day.

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Speaker 3: There's dumbing too.

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Speaker 7: The pomp cosen next for the four time defending champions.

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Speaker 3: They have taken down the Bulldogs forty six points to

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Speaker 3: twenty six.

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Speaker 1: How good was the first or the second week of finals?

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Speaker 2: We are joining me?

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Speaker 1: The Great gordin Tallas has bring the jones in buzz

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Speaker 1: Rothfield and Brent Reid in two games, two winners, one

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Speaker 1: and darn it was the Sharks that were too good

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Speaker 1: for the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: Buzzy'd be happy with that one.

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Speaker 1: And then yesterday Panthers with a clinical display smashing the

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Speaker 1: Bulldogs at the Core Stadium, Gording.

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Speaker 2: Well, look it was a fantastic the Sharks obviously getting

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Speaker 2: that monkey off. They're back in pen with yesterday. That's

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Speaker 2: probably the best forty minutes of their season. And you

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Speaker 2: were the.

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Speaker 7: Teams guys outside the top four are still alive, the

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Speaker 7: Panthers and the Sharks. The other thing made I'll tell

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Speaker 7: you about a smashing weekend for rugby league on television.

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Speaker 7: You know, these two finals we had on the weekend

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Speaker 7: ratings in Australia and year Zeland on Fox and on

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Speaker 7: Channel nine year on year were up thirty four percent.

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Speaker 7: That's how many. And I'll tell you what's really impressive.

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Speaker 7: Ad midilely off a low base, but Melbourne AFL City

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Speaker 7: up ninety five percent.

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Speaker 2: Now with the crowds.

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Speaker 7: I've written it all down here, the attendances and the

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Speaker 7: two finals on the weekend, even though we didn't fill

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Speaker 7: a pall, they are up thirty five percent compared to

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Speaker 7: last year.

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Speaker 2: The game's going, it's are you taking any credit for that?

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Speaker 2: Boys in the journal, A little bit.

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Speaker 4: We've contributed our little part positive. Every second team in

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Speaker 4: the are right in a couple more off.

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Speaker 2: Stadium.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the Panthers and the dream is alive

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Speaker 1: for their fifth straight premiership after the demolition of the

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Speaker 1: Dogs at the Course Stadium yesterday, and they were simply superb.

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Speaker 1: Completion rated one hundred percent in that first half. Execution

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Speaker 1: was at a premium speed, power, you name it, they

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Speaker 1: had it. Finesse Cleary was the outstanding. What a performance

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Speaker 1: it was by the premiers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look for I've never seen a side in recent

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Speaker 2: history dominate territory the way they've been able to dominate.

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Speaker 2: I know that the Dogs are a little bit light

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Speaker 2: on in the forwards, but their way that they could

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Speaker 2: suffocate the Dogs and that up and in that famous

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Speaker 2: up and in Dogs defense for them just to hold

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Speaker 2: back their speed and get to the edges on them

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Speaker 2: with some class or some silky skill, as I said,

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Speaker 2: is probably the best performance of the Pennmouth Panthers this year.

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Speaker 2: It was their best footing yea by a long way.

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Speaker 7: You know what I have decided, Ivan clear his decision

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Speaker 7: to rest sixteen players in around twenty six was an

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Speaker 2: Straightout it. We will still blow up.

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Speaker 4: You were critical, don't sound flip flopping.

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Speaker 6: And.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know what, I'm still critical of it for

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Speaker 7: the game of rugby league and that Canterbury would gifted

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Speaker 7: two competition points against reserve grade side.

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Speaker 2: We need a rule, whether it's a bye before whatever.

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Speaker 2: We haven't talked about that later.

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Speaker 7: His decision though, to freshen up his entire roster I

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Speaker 7: don't think was good for rugby league.

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Speaker 2: But i'll tell you what. He had a premiership in mind.

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Speaker 2: Ratings and everybody come out to watch them because they're

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Speaker 2: seeing the champs. So it is a master stroke. It

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Speaker 2: is that they they're healthy, they're mentally strong, they're fresh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they look fresh to they're playing like the fresh earlier.

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Speaker 2: And the like you're right, no, we're not disagreeing.

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Speaker 5: Earlier in the year there were times when they look

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Speaker 5: tired of the bit jaded or a little a little

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Speaker 5: unmotivated maybe, and obviously they wanted to get to this

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Speaker 5: point of the season. They were so slick in that

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Speaker 5: first forty minutes. They so classy and Nathan has just

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Speaker 5: been I mean the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: He's how good he is.

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Speaker 4: I was going to say it's been ridiculous, but he's

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Speaker 4: like that every week season.

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Speaker 2: You put a line through them. Yeah he said that.

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Speaker 4: Still, I think Bristo will beat them this week. I

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Speaker 4: think Bristo will.

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Speaker 2: Be You still think that? Do you still think they

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Speaker 2: can't win the comp from outside the four?

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Speaker 4: Well, they're going to get through Brisbane first, they be Brisbane.

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Speaker 7: There are a chance you're rubbed out every side in

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Speaker 7: the comp this year.

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Speaker 2: You said were no good.

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Speaker 7: You famously said East.

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Speaker 2: And Walker wouldn't play.

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Speaker 4: Did they win, the cops would.

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Speaker 2: Back there. I think this is a new one British.

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Speaker 5: I think I think Brisbane at home Sunday are game

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Speaker 5: the Okay, I'm going to get through Brisbane when the

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Speaker 5: Cape break and I don't think they will.

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Speaker 2: You still don't think they can do it though, so

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Speaker 2: you don't think Penrith on that performance, I'm not beat

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Speaker 4: And look, if they get past Brisbane, I can see

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Speaker 4: they're a chance to win the greend past Brisbane.

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Speaker 7: I reckon Ivan and a few of the players who

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Speaker 7: are watching this show that I are so happy about

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Speaker 7: what they just said that another side he's written off

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Speaker 7: the other thing just going back quickly to the Masters

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Speaker 7: stroke less than their sixteen players. Remember after Origin in

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Speaker 7: Perth had an away game in New Zealand and he

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Speaker 7: would not even think about picking his five players.

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Speaker 2: Again, that's why they're fresh now from master stroke to

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Speaker 2: master class by anything.

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Speaker 1: Clearly, we've spoken about it already, but let's dive a

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Speaker 1: little deeper into his performance and how spectacular it was.

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Speaker 2: It was Andrew John's esque.

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Speaker 1: They control the poise, the direction in which he led

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Speaker 1: his team, in the way that he executed every single

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Speaker 1: play with intent, and Gordy I haven't seen I don't

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Speaker 1: think I've seen a better performance from a seven this year.

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Speaker 1: In the first forty minutes, like we said, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they took their foot off the accelerator bit.

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Speaker 2: I think signs for Perth when he took the first

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Speaker 2: goal kick, because he struggled this year with his hips

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Speaker 2: and he's growing. So for Nathan to do the goalkick

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Speaker 2: and this looks like that he was free. There was

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Speaker 2: a moment there where they got him over on the right.

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Speaker 2: I think if he kicks here and he kicks it

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Speaker 2: and puts it on a dime, he passed it. He

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Speaker 2: was just a step ahead all game. The Dogs are

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Speaker 2: known for their defense. That's what's kept them in the

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Speaker 2: last couple of years, their defense. And I said yes,

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Speaker 2: saying the call Nathan Cleary pulled him apart like a

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Speaker 2: hot chalk. He was so clinical, you know, going through

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Speaker 7: You know, and there's this argument, and I've argued against

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Speaker 7: on Joey and Jonathan Thurston's level and above Kronk and

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Speaker 7: all that. But he typically and you guys argue back

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Speaker 7: about any origin. But he so typically does this in finals.

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Speaker 7: And you go back to the that when they came

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Speaker 7: from that impossible position against Adam Reynolds, and you know

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Speaker 7: that the was the Broncos a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 7: That performance and then again yesterday put him in.

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Speaker 2: The Hall of Fame. Now.

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Speaker 5: I was talking to someone after game yes night. I said,

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Speaker 5: away from a game? And he went, she's Nathan out

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Speaker 5: a shocker today. I don't think I've ever said it.

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Speaker 5: He just his standard is so high. He just doesn't

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Speaker 5: have poor games. They're either good or brilliant.

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Speaker 1: There's no poor in his He has levels too, He

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Speaker 1: has levels, and he took them to another level yesterday.

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Speaker 2: He just went, you're.

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Speaker 1: Watching I mean no, no, no, yes, he was really

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Speaker 1: He's been good for a long time, but yesterday, like

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Speaker 1: you watch him go to the defensive line, always a threat,

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Speaker 1: and he plays so square, he knows who he wants

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Speaker 1: to get to, whose eyes he wants to engage, what

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Speaker 1: player he wants hitting short are out the back, And

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Speaker 1: I mean Penith do a great job of giving giving

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Speaker 1: him a number of options at any given time with

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Speaker 1: every play because they're set up is so good. But

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Speaker 1: the execution and yeah, he's he plays so square that

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Speaker 1: he can run the ball, he can throw the pass,

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Speaker 1: he can kick like he has every option at any

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Speaker 1: time because of the way that he plays, the style

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Speaker 1: style that he plays. It's just sublime, it really is.

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful to watch.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and contact doesn't mywn mind. He doesn't mean he's

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Speaker 5: willing to take on the defensive line when he has

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Speaker 5: to because he's physically he's quite quite a physically physically

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Speaker 5: physically built guy. And Brisbane had to beat him next week,

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Speaker 5: they've got to stop this week. They've got to stop him.

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Speaker 5: It's as simple as that.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the Panthers and if they do win five

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Speaker 1: in a row, so Ivan Cleary five in a row,

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Speaker 1: where does that hold him amongst coaches over the rugby league.

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Speaker 7: It's a really big thing to say because you know,

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Speaker 7: I grew up as a young reporter when Jack Gibson

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Speaker 7: was winning titles. He won five Grand Finals, Wayne Bennett

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Speaker 7: won seven, and Craig Bellamy. No one will ever match

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Speaker 7: the consistency. He's won five titles, get three of them.

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Speaker 7: I think under the salary cap rules, considering the amount

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Speaker 7: of players and assistant coaches he's lost, considering that at

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Speaker 7: the bottom of the ladder in round twelve and.

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Speaker 2: They've had to come from nowhere.

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Speaker 7: If he lifts that trophy in two weeks time, I

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Speaker 7: would put them him up with Jack and Wayne Bennett

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Speaker 7: and Craig Bellamy as the greatest coaches of all time.

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Speaker 5: He's in the argument, it's no doubt about that. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm above him.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think Craig probably is, because I think Craig's

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Speaker 4: Breaks last time permission lost them, Yes, like I've done. Yes,

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Speaker 2: And this is of course anyway.

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Speaker 4: And Wayne's won seven comps.

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Speaker 7: I said that, and Jack Gibson won five comps, but

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Speaker 4: Side, he's got a pretty handy team as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're trying to appreciate them all. Yeah, well

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Speaker 7: The only thing I leaning with Cleary joining them is

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Speaker 1: He's definitely amongst the best ever, especially if he goes

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Speaker 2: When you reflect, what did you learn, like, would you

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Speaker 6: No, I wouldn't change the thing. You know, this is

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Speaker 6: those two guys are tough, tough characters. They're going to

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Speaker 2: Matter what you think of it.

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Speaker 1: It's been the biggest story of the this year has

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Speaker 1: could say Laughlin Galvin coming in mid season, they were

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Speaker 1: and gone in straight sets. Let's just rip the band

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Speaker 1: Buzz because you were the men the road this for

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm just a bit disappointed in Cameron's press conference

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Speaker 7: absolutely no self reflection, absolutely no respect for anyone who

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Speaker 7: Sexton was the first to be dropped, then Galvin came

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Speaker 7: Haywood got dropped. You know what happened yesterday Sexton came

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Speaker 4: That's out, buzz, I mean, that was why the changes

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Speaker 7: What do you mean what about Red Marney coming back? Yeah,

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Speaker 7: Themarney Marney was bringing back. What I want to compare

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Speaker 7: had Blake Brayley upfront. They've had Heines, they've had Trendle,

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Speaker 7: they've had Kennedy out the back. They've been so settled

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Speaker 7: and they're still alive in this competition.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: He made he made too many changes.

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Speaker 7: The players were confused, they lacked coesion, Their defense even

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Speaker 1: It's hard hard to argue that it hasn't had an

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Speaker 1: were tracking. I know that you were going to argue,

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Speaker 1: just looking at it, and yeah, even watching yesterday, he

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Speaker 4: What would you have had them do differently yesterday? Can

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Speaker 5: Because Crichton was out, the best ops was to move

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Speaker 5: mid year, right, can I say round sixteen? I looked

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Speaker 5: fort they had a soft draw. No, I'm saying they

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Speaker 2: Had a soft leaders that at the time.

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Speaker 5: Well, if you remember I said they couldn't win the

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Speaker 2: Changes.

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Speaker 7: You reckon that drawer was so I can take it

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Speaker 7: through that last let me take it through this. The

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Speaker 7: One game you know that was against a reserve grade

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Speaker 7: Penriside with about sixteen players. Right, So all these changes

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Speaker 7: he made did not work.

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Speaker 2: There is the proof.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I don't need any other status.

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Speaker 1: Are saying that because they didn't think they could win.

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Speaker 1: You didn't think they could win the camp. You're okay

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Speaker 5: Yes, because I think in the long run they're going

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Speaker 2: Do you think they thought that.

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Speaker 4: I think they thought they couldn't win the camp, that's.

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Speaker 2: Yes. So what happened this is this is just my opinion,

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Speaker 2: I'm personal and on kickout and I'm Stephen Crichton and

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Speaker 2: I've got to bring in an eighteen year old kid, right,

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Speaker 2: that's what beyond the ears to win the competition. I'm

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Speaker 2: you can say it's soft. You can only beat who

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Speaker 2: if they're honest, don't blame me. I wouldn't have made

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Speaker 1: I think that's why, like, ex players can speak to

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Speaker 2: I said it at the time.

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Speaker 1: It's not so much the decision you're making, it's the

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Speaker 1: We're coming first?

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Speaker 2: Do they not think that this guy and he can

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting you know, you to talk about people when

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Speaker 4: I can I understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: He was trying to win a camp.

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Speaker 5: That's why he made the differing it out now ready,

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Speaker 7: I didn't turn now to say he was wrong, And

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Speaker 7: Did he err in playing Lachlan Galvin at halfback and

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Speaker 4: Well he played for the Yes, they got flogged, flogged, but.

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Speaker 2: Quiet game.

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Speaker 4: He was their best player with Jacob Press.

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Speaker 2: We didn't help, you know, and you can't admit it.

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Speaker 4: He should not have been picked at half back to

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Speaker 1: The best their attack, their attack when I'm coming first

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Speaker 1: Take it through.

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Speaker 4: They played, mate, wouldn take it through their play?

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Speaker 2: You put me to sleep, as you normally do. But it's.

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Speaker 1: So you you you think he was one hundred percent

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Speaker 4: He didn't sound to me the guy's got.

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Speaker 2: This decisions going there yesday is one of the greatest days.

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Speaker 2: And your wish that the Bulldogs fan would have won

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Speaker 2: And if they won like next week, it would have

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Speaker 1: Forty two tackles at half time? Yep, forty two? Would

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Speaker 4: Breath and so I can't tell you, but as I said, but.

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Speaker 5: The periods this year when they're coming first, and they've

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Speaker 8: First reading, can you not understand the confusion in that

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Speaker 7: Bally Hayward is three weeks sack. I just I just

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Speaker 7: told you how well, Look, I'm sorry I didn't listen

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Speaker 7: all that carefully.

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Speaker 3: You did.

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Speaker 5: Change Steve Crichton was out the hold one.

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Speaker 7: Talkers when you lose the center, now, don't go on

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Speaker 7: with that rubbish. You don't change talkings when the center, Paul.

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Speaker 4: They did, you were calling for remarty.

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Speaker 5: They say they shouldn't have brought red money because confused

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Speaker 5: everyone so you're confused by no, you're making this up now.

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Speaker 7: You see the start of the year that Red Marney

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Speaker 7: right needed to get the rubbish out of each game

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Speaker 7: he did. He should have stayed in the football side

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Speaker 7: is extremely popular with the players you know years and

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Speaker 7: Bailey Hayward the week before your hawk at missed thirteen tackles, so.

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Speaker 4: He brought him back into hooker.

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Speaker 1: Change now, But you're both missing the point here. It's

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Speaker 1: just so much of change and so much no matter

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Speaker 1: who plays where, no one knows who's playing where, and

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Speaker 1: everyone's changing. Look at their edges yesterday, Rudy. Look at

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Speaker 1: their defensive reads on the edges. Look, they had no idea.

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Speaker 1: They were not working as a unit. Forty two miss

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Speaker 1: tackles means that you are not playing as a team,

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Speaker 1: and you're not playing as a team because the team

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Speaker 1: has changed so much over a long period of time

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Speaker 1: that you actually end up losing belief and trust in

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Speaker 1: each other because you don't know who you're playing next to.

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Speaker 4: Like, how could you.

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Speaker 1: Sit here and say that those big significant decisions of

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Speaker 1: a team coming first with a chance to win a competition,

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Speaker 1: whether you think they could over or nine, has not

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Speaker 1: led to a team now that was losing thirty six

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Speaker 1: points to eight at halftime in the final.

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Speaker 4: I think what we saw yesterday was their spine reading.

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Speaker 7: What about the spine, the fine, the most key, the

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Speaker 7: four key position.

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Speaker 5: You are you wanted sext and back in the team,

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Speaker 5: you want a money back in the team. How did

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Speaker 5: they play yesterday? The team yesterday?

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Speaker 7: Confidence might have been shattered in the manner in which

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Speaker 7: they would trade.

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Speaker 2: Round and there wasn't Maybe maybe Preston was the best dog.

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Speaker 4: Preston and.

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Speaker 2: You know what, they look tired relieve the years. Do

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Speaker 2: you think that Daly Cherry Evans decision hurt manly m hmm.

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Speaker 4: I've said on here then yes, yeah, okay, so.

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Speaker 2: The Galvin decision heard the Bulldogs just stay consistent.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So what happens now with the Dogs? What happens

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Speaker 1: now moving on the next year?

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Speaker 2: What do they do they need?

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Speaker 4: They need some big forwards break before the strength of the.

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Speaker 5: Middle of the middle of the field, because they get

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Speaker 5: they got steamroll at times this year.

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Speaker 4: So they Thompsons coming.

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Speaker 2: They need more than Thompson for okayo King tried harder

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Speaker 2: so he was just a bit small. But then the

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Speaker 2: but Penmouth have done that to a lot of sides.

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Speaker 4: I think Mitch Woods comes in a half back, so

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Speaker 4: you play Mitch Woods at half.

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Speaker 5: Gelvin plays six, Burton goes to the centers, shuffle right

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Speaker 5: up quite plays fullbackers.

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Speaker 2: He has a chance.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think that's it. I think it has to

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Speaker 5: be a chance. I think it has to be a

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Speaker 5: chance because I think Connor Tracy as good as he is,

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Speaker 5: and I think Steve Crichton is elite.

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Speaker 7: And the more you can get the ball, Brady and

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Speaker 7: I know you're particularly tight with cam and the Bulldogs

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Speaker 7: the way you're speaking of them at all.

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Speaker 2: Did they in letting Al go to Penrith Local Jr?

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Speaker 4: What do you may come on local Junior?

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Speaker 2: Mil Per?

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Speaker 4: Where's he getting that team on the wing where you

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Speaker 4: got him?

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Speaker 2: He would.

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Speaker 5: He tries in the wing for penalties. I'm not sure

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Speaker 5: that he's a good player. I don't not to nying that,

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Speaker 5: but at the time he was.

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Speaker 2: Gone, so you would have scored that trick.

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Speaker 4: Now that one I probably wouldn't.

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Speaker 7: The other big thing about Canterbury yesterday with all these changes,

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Speaker 7: excuse me, they put Matt Burton in a position where

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Speaker 7: he can't use that burming boot and Galvin did all

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Speaker 7: the kicking yesterday or but and with Burton. He was

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Speaker 7: heard at training last Thursday night. He did his soon

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Speaker 7: his shoulder. He went into the game with pay Kelly injections.

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Speaker 4: But mate Burns kicked the center this year.

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Speaker 2: Burns play and he kicked the start of the game.

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Speaker 2: He's doing a lot of long keys.

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Speaker 4: He can kick the balls.

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Speaker 1: Galvin, I think was feeling it and he was in

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Speaker 1: a bit of a mood yesterday was playing some good footy,

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Speaker 1: so he took which I thought was good boys. Kenny Suthcliffe,

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Speaker 1: he's coming on later. Are you two going to start behaving?

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to Kenny coming up? He's the key, absolute legend,

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Speaker 1: all right. If you two to settle down, stick around

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Speaker 1: journals on Friday to ride a cup against the US

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Speaker 1: take on Europe, and you didn't catch all the action

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Speaker 1: from nine pm on Channel FO by Throt