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Speaker 1: The magnificent beautiful guy, Sebastian john Well smells so good.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what? I love it?

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Speaker 2: You've got your studio set up at home now and

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Speaker 2: you were you put up, you put on your Instagram stories.

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Speaker 2: You show us when you go through these beats. Do

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Speaker 2: you get these beats sent to your guy? You come

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Speaker 2: up with them yourself. It looks like it's so much

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Speaker 2: fun when you're in there making around with that.

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Speaker 3: It's it's It is a lot of procrastination though, as

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Speaker 3: a as a songwriter, yes, you end up you go

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Speaker 3: to write a song and then I know the cards already,

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Speaker 3: the chords are there, Yes, So you end up just

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Speaker 3: programming drums and fiddling around with sounds because you don't

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Speaker 3: actually want to tackle the.

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Speaker 4: Want to. Because we were talking about Billie Eilish and

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Speaker 4: the new documentary Out of the Moment on Netflix and

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Speaker 4: how she doesn't like writing songs.

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Speaker 1: She's not into it. Her brother is the Phineas is

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Speaker 1: a genius.

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Speaker 3: Just watch that just the other day and she goes,

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Speaker 3: oh my gosh, you are gonna love Phineas. He's like

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Speaker 3: the nicest bloke and even when he's recording her in

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Speaker 3: the bedroom, apparently he's just so gentle with.

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, sure.

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Speaker 3: Because I was chatting to Jules today because we had

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Speaker 3: a little recording session yesterday with all the coaches and

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Speaker 3: on the voice, and I was just saying to her,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's a real art when you're recording people

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Speaker 3: to capture their energy right at the right times. And

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Speaker 3: for example, if someone's in the studio and you're they

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Speaker 3: can't nail a little bit of a song, you just

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Speaker 3: move on. And because if you keep grinding that person

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Speaker 3: when they've got like a different rhythm in their head

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Speaker 3: or something, they will end up just going I can't sing,

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Speaker 3: I suck like you.

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Speaker 1: Have are so like easily damaged, and.

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Speaker 3: You want to just get them feeling like they're the

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Speaker 3: best singer of the world. And it's a it's a

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Speaker 3: real gift.

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Speaker 4: In radio, they say, I reckon, you got a I reckon,

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Speaker 4: You've got a better one in you mate, there.

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Speaker 2: Another crack you do that though, if you know that

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Speaker 2: you're just not in the mood or you're not in

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Speaker 2: a zone, you're just go, nah, I cannot record it.

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Speaker 1: Let me have a day off or come back.

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Speaker 3: Just in general, I probably wouldn't start. So now I

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Speaker 3: have a different approach to making music. I mean, and

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Speaker 3: the thing is, you can't really do this at the start.

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Speaker 3: At the start, you do have to grind. But I've

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm coming up to two decades and I

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Speaker 3: want to love music, So I only really write when

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Speaker 3: i'm inspired.

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Speaker 5: Now, what's the longest period you've procrastinated being in not

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Speaker 5: like a funk, but sort of going now, I'm not

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Speaker 5: feeling it today.

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Speaker 1: You know what.

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Speaker 3: This song is a classic example of how important it

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Speaker 3: is to be inspired when you're right. So I was

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Speaker 3: doing this zoom session with guys in LA and so

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Speaker 3: we're going over the music. We had all the music down, drums,

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Speaker 3: everything programmed, and I'm going over and over trying to

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Speaker 3: write the actual song, the actual top line. And I'm

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Speaker 3: singing tons of melodies into my phone. Nothing's feeling special.

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Speaker 1: Hours and hours. I was like, boys, I just I

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Speaker 1: can't do it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I got one, like let's just

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Speaker 3: start tomorrow or something. And I've done and I was cooked.

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Speaker 3: So I went downstairs made a coffee. As I'm making

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Speaker 3: a coffee, I've still got the beat and everything still

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Speaker 3: in my head. I sung the whole chorus literally that

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Speaker 3: like words, everything all just click, all just clicked, and

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Speaker 3: I sung it. Sometimes you just need to step away

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Speaker 3: such a grind like you're in the moment and it's

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Speaker 3: like and same as like singing. That's what I mean

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Speaker 3: is you don't just keep grinding away at something you

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Speaker 3: need to be, you know, sort of inspired.

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Speaker 4: And now you're going to be like you're going to

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Speaker 4: be stuck in the studio and then you go, I

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Speaker 4: know what I'll do, go and grab a coffee.

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Speaker 3: I'm the proper caffeine at it.

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Speaker 1: Down shakes a chorus in a minute.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've got a whole.

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Speaker 1: I'm like obsessed with coffee.

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Speaker 3: So I've got a big set up.

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Speaker 1: I got your little cafe there at the moment as well.

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Speaker 1: Can I just say, do you? Keith Richards came up with.

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Speaker 2: A rift of satisfaction for the Rolling Stones in his sleep,

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Speaker 2: so he said, he woke up in the morning and it.

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Speaker 1: Was in his head. Yeah have you ever done that before?

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Speaker 1: Was it?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 1: I just was.

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Speaker 3: I was living on my own in this little flat.

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Speaker 3: I think it's like a like a house over flat now,

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Speaker 3: but it's a I had a little studio set up

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Speaker 3: and I swear I thought of the chords and everything

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Speaker 3: in my sleep. I was sitting there and it's and

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Speaker 3: it's a really beautiful melody. I ended up getting up

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Speaker 3: in the middle of the night and I was like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I record it, recorded before you forget it.

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Speaker 3: And I went next door to my little studio and yeah,

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Speaker 3: put down the song and then went back to sleep.

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Speaker 3: And then when I woke up, I was like, is

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Speaker 3: that actually good? And I ended up recording it as

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Speaker 3: a duet with Maya. Do you remember my your song

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Speaker 3: with my Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so forever with you?

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, your neighbors would have loved.

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Speaker 3: That tiny little flat as well.

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Speaker 4: Can you tell us to mate, because for the last

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Speaker 4: week there's been a cardboard cutout of you in reception

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Speaker 4: here we're a slashing machine. Yeah. Yesterday they filled it

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Speaker 4: full of raspberry cordial and vodka.

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Speaker 1: Was him firm.

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Speaker 2: Joel came in in the afternoon and we did have

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Speaker 2: the raspberry flavor there. Yeah, and he put in a

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Speaker 2: full bottle of vodka. And on Friday afternoon, everyone inva

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Speaker 2: I was on fire.

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Speaker 4: Missing was the vodka.

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Speaker 3: You don't know how that makes me feel I brought,

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Speaker 3: I got the place lit.

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Speaker 4: On behalf of all the stuff and Nova you buddy,

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Speaker 4: my pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Tell us what we had Keith Urban in the other day,

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Speaker 2: tell us how this new team is going, because we

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Speaker 2: were like, you know, Keith was talking about when he

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Speaker 2: did American Idol and he was in between Nicki Minaj

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Speaker 2: and Mariah and Mariah Carey and he said, and he

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Speaker 2: was like, you know this, I love this team.

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Speaker 1: You know, like we have so much respect for each other.

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Speaker 3: It is really good. I mean he told me about

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Speaker 3: that as well. He goes, mate, they genuinely loathe each other.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Imagine sitting in the middle of that. And initially I

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Speaker 3: heard Mariah was up for this season of The Voice here,

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Speaker 3: so that would have been interesting. But Keith is, as

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Speaker 3: you know, the loveliest guy. He's so just so easy.

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Speaker 3: What you see is what you get. Jess is fantastic

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Speaker 3: her first TV gig, and you're going to love her

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Speaker 3: because she's just she's so nice and she she sings

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Speaker 3: a lot, which is great. You know, she her life

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Speaker 3: is a musical and thank god because her voice is insane.

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Speaker 3: And then Reader, you will love Reader. She's hard reader.

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Speaker 3: She's the best picture, like so you know how well

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Speaker 3: she's unbelievable. She's like like a proper salesman.

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Speaker 5: You say, Keith's very nice, but he was, I don't

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Speaker 5: know what words you use to describe your fashion on

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Speaker 5: the voice, but I think he was not confused. He said,

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Speaker 5: you were out there.

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Speaker 1: Without that, all right, yeah, a little bit out there?

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Speaker 5: Some do you dress yourself though it is jewels? Well,

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Speaker 5: she's a.

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Speaker 3: She is, but she hasn't. She stole me for like

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Speaker 3: one shoot and then we generally never work together.

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Speaker 4: Every now and then we will, but you know, so

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Speaker 4: you don't have like a chair in the corner of

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Speaker 4: your room and you get up and you go, Now,

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Speaker 4: am I really worrying about today?

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Speaker 3: There's a bloke that stars me for things like the

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Speaker 3: voice and because it's a lot of outfit, not for

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Speaker 3: the initial blind auditions, because we were the same.

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Speaker 4: Thing for ages.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, guy Dale, who's an awesome starist. But we

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Speaker 3: sort of work together a fair bit. I'll send him

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Speaker 3: heaps of references and we'll just for the voice. We

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Speaker 3: just ended up going shopping together and.

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Speaker 4: So it was like a boy he does that with

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Speaker 4: for the project, You've got Tarot.

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Speaker 1: Cash It's how I go down to any local Tarot care.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I love having me in the metallic shirt official ambassador

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Speaker 3: for Tarot.

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Speaker 1: First time they get rid of a suit about eight

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Speaker 1: years and there it's been hanging up.

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Speaker 4: It looks good on you, mate.

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Speaker 1: The new single is the only thing missing. We're loving

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Speaker 1: it mate. Thank you very much for coming next.

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Speaker 3: Thanks