Speaker 1: I get a team. It's your project. It's doctor Jeffrey.
Speaker 1: It's not real, it's doctor jeff it's me Harps, it's
Speaker 1: the bloody project.
Speaker 2: That's you.
Speaker 1: As I said, it's a seven o four in the
Speaker 1: am here in the thriving metropolis of Melbourne, down the
Speaker 1: bottom of Australia. If you're listening around the world, probably
Speaker 1: arguably the best part of Australia. But you know, other
Speaker 1: people will debate that. Of course, we're going to get
Speaker 1: the good doc out, hopefully this year. It would be
Speaker 1: good to get you over here at Bloody down Under
Speaker 1: so we can wheel you out like a prize possession
Speaker 1: to the masses, so that you can inspire and educate
Speaker 1: and inform. What do you think about that? We've spoken
Speaker 1: about it, but we need to maybe get the wheel
Speaker 1: turning slowly.
Speaker 2: I love it. I mean, if the Royal family can
Speaker 2: make a trip down there every now and then, why
Speaker 2: can't I? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I can not talk about the Royal family. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's in the royal family more. I think he's
Speaker 1: I think he's an ex royal. I don't know how
Speaker 1: that works. But how are you, mate, How's how's your
Speaker 1: month been. How are things going so good?
Speaker 2: I can't stand it, but thank you so much? And
Speaker 2: how are things by you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Good? Two little curve balls over here, but that's life,
Speaker 1: but generally really good. And I feel like I'm going
Speaker 1: to sound like an old person, which clearly I am.
Speaker 1: But when I go, oh, can you believe it's already
Speaker 1: the third months of the.
Speaker 2: Year, Jeff, Oh wow, that is what all people say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's much already. Bro. All right, So last time, everyone,
Speaker 1: the good doc and I did a Q and A,
Speaker 1: so let's jump to that. I got some really good,
Speaker 1: really good the best feedback that we've had about any
Speaker 1: of the episodes that we've done, and it's always positive.
Speaker 1: But I got not just good feedback, but a lot
Speaker 1: of feedback, like the volume was times five. So and
Speaker 1: a few people went, can you do a version of
Speaker 1: that again? And I went, well, fuck it, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's just break the fucking typ rules that Melissa and
Speaker 1: Tiff make and list let's just plow some new grounds.
Speaker 1: So we're going to do that, and we might do
Speaker 1: one of these each month. We're not sure. We'll see
Speaker 1: if you like them. So the idea is this, and
Speaker 1: again None of this is a prescription. This is just
Speaker 1: the doc and I talking and him sharing his thoughts
Speaker 1: on these particular things. Obviously as a medialone assessed anyone,
Speaker 1: and so it's just conversation. But take from it what
Speaker 1: you will, do with it what you will and maybe
Speaker 1: ignore it or explore it, maybe open a new door
Speaker 1: and go and have a chat to somebody to further
Speaker 1: this chat that you hear, and you might hear something
Speaker 1: that could potentially change your life, which would be nice.
Speaker 1: And so I've asked people to send in quite specific
Speaker 1: medical or clinical or injury questions, so there's zero kind
Speaker 1: of fluff. And I asked all of those questions. I
Speaker 1: asked everyone to send stuff that's really a personal question
Speaker 1: about them rather than a broad generic question about integrated
Speaker 1: medicine or anything like that. So here we go, Steve
Speaker 1: from What's funny is after the last one, everybody writes
Speaker 1: their name and then their birth or their age. So
Speaker 1: Steve fifty four Mornington. Not everyone, but most people I've got.
Speaker 1: I feel like some of these I could answer, but
Speaker 1: I won't. I've got bone on bone arthritis in my
Speaker 1: right hip. I'm still surfing and walking daily, but it's
Speaker 1: getting difficult. Is there any anything regenerative that realistically buys
Speaker 1: me any time before a hip replacement?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? You know, first of all, if you are still
Speaker 2: doing those things, awesome, and that tells us there's some cartilage. Right,
Speaker 2: you're not exactly bone on bone, you would not be
Speaker 2: able to do those things. Bone on bone is sort
Speaker 2: of this misused phrase just to scare people into a
Speaker 2: surgical joint replacement. So yeah, we've had some success following
Speaker 2: a French protocol. The French have published over fifteen years
Speaker 2: of using stem cell biologics surrounding the joint in the
Speaker 2: bone edges, restimulating the factory that produces cartilage that because
Speaker 2: of inflammatory changes over life and age, you're unable to
Speaker 2: you know, you know do on your own, So we
Speaker 2: can restimulate those areas. We have good success in having
Speaker 2: you rebuild your cartlage. Remember you made that cartilage in
Speaker 2: the first place, Steve, and you're you're fairly young. So
Speaker 2: a joint replacement is an option. But man, if we
Speaker 2: could fix this with a single injection and you get
Speaker 2: a trip to Las Vegas out of it, to boot,
Speaker 2: I think I think you're saving money and recovery time
Speaker 2: and mist and missurfing, and you know your body has
Speaker 2: the blueprint to make cartilage. Sometimes it just needs a reminder.
Speaker 1: And I would also guess that if he's fifty four
Speaker 1: and surfs every day and walks every day, he's probably
Speaker 1: other than these shitty hit he's probably biologically younger than
Speaker 1: fifty four, you know what I mean, from a kind
Speaker 1: of profile point of view.
Speaker 2: I would concur with that. I would concur with that completely.
Speaker 2: So we are seeing benefits in this. And even if
Speaker 2: you have a cartilage tear some old injuries, you know,
Speaker 2: when you're young and have those things, you heal relatively well.
Speaker 2: We just need to turn on your fifty four year
Speaker 2: old hit to heal like an eighteen year old for
Speaker 2: a bit and then you're right back in your regular programming.
Speaker 1: By the way, this is a sidebar, but I used
Speaker 1: to work in Sport radio in Melbourne for about fifteen
Speaker 1: years and just as the excise science guy and hosting
Speaker 1: and stuff. But I used to do a show where
Speaker 1: every week people would just bring up and ask questions
Speaker 1: and just general stuff, some specific, some general. But we
Speaker 1: did this kind of thirty minute segment on people had
Speaker 1: to ring up and say if you could only do
Speaker 1: one activity or one exercise, what do you think would
Speaker 1: be the single most kind of all encompassing, physiologically beneficial
Speaker 1: kind of activity. And I came up with surfing. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you why. When you're surfing, so you need
Speaker 1: muscular endurance, aerobic endurance, strength, power, speed, agility, balance, You're
Speaker 1: in nature. It's fucking beautiful unless you get eaten bioshark,
Speaker 1: which is a seventeen percent chance in Australia. But there
Speaker 1: are just so many things that you need to be
Speaker 1: able to learn to surf and then to be able
Speaker 1: to surf. And you're moving in different planes, like your
Speaker 1: feet are facing that way, your hips are there, your
Speaker 1: shoulders are there. You're constantly moving. You're constantly adapting to
Speaker 1: something which is dynamic, it's not static. What would you pick?
Speaker 1: What would be? It's something if we're thinking about like
Speaker 1: a movement or an exercise or an activity which would
Speaker 1: involve so many different components of your physiology anatomy in
Speaker 1: a functional way. What would be in your top five?
Speaker 1: Not necessarily number two on that list, or you might
Speaker 1: have a number one that supersedes mine.
Speaker 2: And I love the surfing concept. I'd like to add
Speaker 2: one more ingredient to your surfing, and that is you
Speaker 2: also do a lot of good postural work because when
Speaker 2: you have to paddle, your engaging your spinal muscles, you know,
Speaker 2: to arch your back and that, you know, besides all
Speaker 2: the core and small stabilizer muscles you use when you're
Speaker 2: bouncing on the board. There's so many things I like
Speaker 2: that I hadn't considered that. I would probably go pilates
Speaker 2: and maybe yoga, power yoga or a sculpting yoga plates
Speaker 2: because you can do cardiovascularly in there. You can you
Speaker 2: can get the core and the stabilizers, you can get
Speaker 2: the big muscle groups you get you get a lot
Speaker 2: of the twisting and the and the stretch component. Maybe
Speaker 2: not as much cardio, and of course you gotta go
Speaker 2: heavy if you want to get the power piece. And
Speaker 2: and I would I would consider those, you know, I
Speaker 2: like some of these fitness classes that involve a little
Speaker 2: of everything. They have all kinds of different branded names
Speaker 2: over here, but you know they've got some you know,
Speaker 2: high intensity card they've got some powers, some lifting SATs,
Speaker 2: they've got some playability, they've got some calisthenics, and they
Speaker 2: keep you moving fast and very little rest. I like those,
Speaker 2: and yet.
Speaker 1: They have so over here CrossFit forty five high rocks.
Speaker 1: It's all kind of year circuity based, like you said,
Speaker 1: bit of strength, bit bit of agility, bit of upper
Speaker 1: lower body, lots of cardio. Yeah, they're good. I just
Speaker 1: think people need to be You need to be integrated
Speaker 1: into those programs at the right level for where you
Speaker 1: are at. And because they're not personal one on one
Speaker 1: their group. Yeah, you just need to be careful which
Speaker 1: group you slot into or you could hamstring off your
Speaker 1: bone till about twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 2: So that's happening. We do see a bit of injuries
Speaker 2: from CrossFit, from people pushing it too far too much,
Speaker 2: or like you said, stepping in at the the provider,
Speaker 2: the men going I got this. I used to do
Speaker 2: this all the time, and they're just not in shape
Speaker 2: or stretched out. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the dude that's at level two going to
Speaker 1: the level eight group. Fuck it, I'll be fine. Do
Speaker 1: you know what I used to do?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: Rachel forty three. Rachel forty three from Melbourne says I
Speaker 1: tore my ACL five years ago and I did not
Speaker 1: have surgery. Oh it's mostly okay, but feels unstable when
Speaker 1: I pivot. I'm not surprised, Rachel. Can regenerative treatment improve
Speaker 1: stability or is that purely structural?
Speaker 2: Great question, Rachel. So I'm guessing that it's not a
Speaker 2: complete tear, Otherwise you would really really unstable. So we've
Speaker 2: had some success in the incomplete tears. Otherwise, Yes, it
Speaker 2: is fairly structural. So the problem here is she tore
Speaker 2: it a while back, so it's not cute, and she
Speaker 2: may have forms scar tissue at the edges of the
Speaker 2: ten drills, so we may not get benefit. We like
Speaker 2: to hit these early, and our best results are, you know,
Speaker 2: within a few weeks of the injury, and we're getting
Speaker 2: in there and having it heal like a youthful you know. Way,
Speaker 2: if there are some of the fibers still intact, then
Speaker 2: the edges haven't pulled apart and retracted it away. Otherwise,
Speaker 2: if you put regenerative medicine there, it's unlikely that those
Speaker 2: those two pieces will find each other and heal them. Yep.
Speaker 1: Perfect Andrew from Bellarat High Bellarat, That's where I was born.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Bellarrat. I have got chronic planta fasciata
Speaker 1: subtrid orthotic stretching shock wive therapy. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what that is, Andy, Uh, it keeps coming back. Would
Speaker 1: something like payo stem cells help.
Speaker 2: Yes, we've had some success there, But let's go back
Speaker 2: and define shockwave therapy, Craig, because I think that's something.
Speaker 1: Tell me hit me up by a cop.
Speaker 2: So if you if you had a kidney stone and
Speaker 2: you didn't want a surgery to dig it out of you, there,
Speaker 2: you would you would go into a medical facility that
Speaker 2: has this this high intense the sound wave generator, and
Speaker 2: it would they put your kidney right up against it
Speaker 2: and target this through through these these these shocks of sound,
Speaker 2: sound shocks. Yes, like you're at a rock and roll concert,
Speaker 2: right up against the big speaker in the front and
Speaker 2: just the sub whopper woofer is just pounding away at
Speaker 2: your kidney, pulverizing that. Uh that Califi Kinney saying. Well,
Speaker 2: turns out shock wave therapy is getting increased utilization in
Speaker 2: other tendon, ligament and even bone injuries to help in
Speaker 2: that regard. Now, in fashi fascia itis is the is
Speaker 2: the plantar fascion that's the big, broad, tough gristly tissue
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the foot and over time it
Speaker 2: gets it gets over tight and it's painful with pressure
Speaker 2: and it's hard to work out. And shockwave. He tried shockwave.
Speaker 2: That's a reasonable approach, but it didn't work. So, yes,
Speaker 2: there's an inflammatory component and we know that because plantar
Speaker 2: fasci itis ends in itis. Itis is the Latin root
Speaker 2: for inflammation. So there have been benefits with using regenerative
Speaker 2: biologics injected into that area, whether it be p RP,
Speaker 2: stem cells, stem cell derived exosomes, maybe some peptides. I
Speaker 2: would I would try all those things, and I would
Speaker 2: avoid they have these surgeries and the surgeries tend to
Speaker 2: not work out so well. I would try some different
Speaker 2: anti inflammatory injections like I just described, with biologics, peptides,
Speaker 2: and you know, some type of method. Maybe you continue
Speaker 2: with the shockwave because you got to find a way
Speaker 2: to tenderize the meat down there, if you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's graphic. Yep. When you're talking about shockwave therapy,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about potential military applications. You know, that's
Speaker 1: just me, haven't didn't Isn't that what some countries have
Speaker 1: allegedly used in recent operations or something? Similar. But enough
Speaker 1: about that. That was Andrew. Let's get Andrew off the screen.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Melissa. Oh, I've been diagnosed. Melissa is
Speaker 1: thirty nine and from Sydney. Hello Melissa from Sydney. I've
Speaker 1: been diagnosed with early degenerative disc disease in my neck.
Speaker 1: I get headaches and I'm tingling plays with a lot
Speaker 1: of A's plays.
Speaker 2: Help absolutely since because of the extra ease. So the
Speaker 2: phrase degenerative dis disease is not a great phrase, but
Speaker 2: many doctors use it because it clearly, it quickly tells
Speaker 2: you the kind of thing you have. But let's face
Speaker 2: it, it's not a disease. It is a is a degenitive
Speaker 2: collection of microtrauma, sometimes big traumas that accumulate and allow
Speaker 2: for the discs to be less functional as cushions. They
Speaker 2: become shorter, they become drier, and then they can tear
Speaker 2: and hurting it just like carlogen and knee or somewhere else,
Speaker 2: uh with When you lose the disc, then you start
Speaker 2: to form bone spurs, and the combination of the spurs
Speaker 2: and the loss of disk function and height is is
Speaker 2: this degenitive process that is unfairly called the disease, degenerative
Speaker 2: dis disease. So if your doctor used that phrase, they
Speaker 2: that means they were saving themselves at fifteen minute explanatory conversation.
Speaker 2: So be that as it may be. Yeah, right the
Speaker 2: tree right now, she's got some arm symptoms. Yeah, likely
Speaker 2: because you know, as as the discs shortened, so do
Speaker 2: the exiting windows where the nerves leave your spine to
Speaker 2: go down your arm. Yeah, and as it pertains to
Speaker 2: the neck. Of course, in your lower back, those pathways
Speaker 2: go down the lake. But in the neck, you know,
Speaker 2: when they become smaller, then you're more likely to irritate them.
Speaker 2: In certain positions, feel either numbness, tingling, or zingers of
Speaker 2: pain down the arm. And sometimes it's bad enough that
Speaker 2: that nerve is is you know, you get weak, it
Speaker 2: can be really bad. So if you know, anything you
Speaker 2: can do short of surgery is key. So really good stretching, yoga, flexibility,
Speaker 2: because you know, you hear you've you've heard this phrase
Speaker 2: that you bend until you break. So we want you
Speaker 2: to be able to bend further. So you so breaking
Speaker 2: is further down the list of things to do. We
Speaker 2: want you to improve you know your you know, muscle
Speaker 2: tone of flexibility and the fascial release. This goes off
Speaker 2: obviously with the planner flashy fasci I just answer as well,
Speaker 2: but I'm a big fan of en type yoga for this.
Speaker 2: And then a good a good deep tissue sports massage,
Speaker 2: a really good mile fascial release, not not a little
Speaker 2: fufu you know rub down. Okay, you got to get
Speaker 2: the real deal. Really, if it didn't hurt somewhat, if
Speaker 2: it wasn't tough on you, you know, and you weren't
Speaker 2: grunting and grown and during the massage, and that's not therapeutic. Really, well,
Speaker 2: I suppose the fufu ones are therapeutic for your brain,
Speaker 2: but the the we we really need to loosen up
Speaker 2: those tissues and then and then the MRI is the
Speaker 2: best way to study if the nerve is compromised physically
Speaker 2: or not so physically might mean, you know, is is
Speaker 2: it being something pushing on it? Or what we call,
Speaker 2: you know, commonly we refer to this as a pinched nerve,
Speaker 2: even though it's technically not always pinched, just be pushed
Speaker 2: or touched or irritated, impinged in some way. Impingement is yeah,
Speaker 2: we see that word as well, exactly, so you know,
Speaker 2: they can be bad enough to need surgery, and before
Speaker 2: you have surgery, they'll exhaust all other options. So there
Speaker 2: are some injections that can be done to suppress the
Speaker 2: inflammatory burden and allow you to do the rehab to
Speaker 2: overcome this. You got to You got to get ahead
Speaker 2: of it and stay ahead ahead of it. She's only
Speaker 2: thirty nine, so I don't know. Is she an ex gymnast?
Speaker 2: Is she you know?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: Whatlissa? What did you do to end up with this
Speaker 2: so early? Were you in a car wreck at some
Speaker 2: point that tolerated the process, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, they are good questions. I reckon, like I
Speaker 1: would not want my spine or all the bits and
Speaker 1: pieces of my spine from lumber through to a cervical
Speaker 1: to be or curvical. I would not want my spine
Speaker 1: to be looked at too closely because I reckon they
Speaker 1: would go, how the fuck are you walking? Do you
Speaker 1: not have constant pain? Because I've had so many injuries
Speaker 1: sort of doing dumb shit in the gym and outside
Speaker 1: the gym? I think, do you not think that most people, well,
Speaker 1: Melissa is young, but like fifty and onwards would have
Speaker 1: some kind of observable degeneration or issue if everyone went
Speaker 1: and had had their backlooked at or X rayed or
Speaker 1: scanned or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yes, and there are studies that show that each decade
Speaker 2: brings a higher chance of finding something anatomically degenerating in
Speaker 2: the spine, but only the minority of people actually have
Speaker 2: ongoing symptoms related to said degenerative faintings.
Speaker 1: That's so interesting. We have a guy who's been on
Speaker 1: quite a few times. He's a sports doctor and he
Speaker 1: specializes in pain management, and he's got a very different
Speaker 1: kind of outside the box approach. So it's not in
Speaker 1: managing pain with heaps of drugs and this, and it's
Speaker 1: more about it's quite de been philosophical, but trying to
Speaker 1: understand the pain and a whole lot of things that
Speaker 1: I find really fascinating. But he gave a presentation to
Speaker 1: a whole lot of doctors and he showed this X
Speaker 1: ray I guess of a sixty one year old back,
Speaker 1: and he just put it up or a couple of
Speaker 1: X rays up and said, you know, kind of open,
Speaker 1: interactive kind of audience. What do you think what's going
Speaker 1: on here? Or what would you recommend if you know,
Speaker 1: if you had this patient and they're all like, or
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? And they're like, wow, he must
Speaker 1: he fucked he needs surgery. By lunchtime, he's you know,
Speaker 1: he probably can't walk Da da da da da. And
Speaker 1: he said, what would you say if I told you
Speaker 1: that this patient rides two hundred kilometers a week. So
Speaker 1: he rides I think four days a week fifty ks,
Speaker 1: which is thirty miles in your language, and blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And by the way, this patient is
Speaker 1: me so and they're like, and he was up there
Speaker 1: on stage presenting and moving well and yeah. So it's
Speaker 1: like it doesn't necessarily what seems to be or what
Speaker 1: it is apparently going on isn't necessarily reflected in symptoms
Speaker 1: that like, not consistently anyway.
Speaker 2: That's an important point that let's do that both directions.
Speaker 2: Films don't always the imaging the X ray is, the
Speaker 2: MRIs don't always say what's going on symptomatically, and the
Speaker 2: symptoms don't always predict what the MRI or X rays
Speaker 2: will show. That's why the true act, the true cognitive
Speaker 2: act of being a clinician, is to correlate them. It's
Speaker 2: called the clinical correlation, you match them. So in the
Speaker 2: case of your doctor friend, you know he has imaging
Speaker 2: findings that are not clinically correlated with how he's doing.
Speaker 2: He's doing much better than the imaging would suggest. But yeah,
Speaker 2: he learns from that and he says, well, I've got
Speaker 2: a bad spine. I should be careful. I can do
Speaker 2: all the cycling. I just better not fall. I'm at
Speaker 2: higher risk.
Speaker 1: ALRIGHTY appreciate that. Natalie from Geelong, which is down here
Speaker 1: in the state. I live in Dock. It's about an
Speaker 1: hour away. Natalie says forty seven. By the way, I've
Speaker 1: got a frozen shoulder that's lasted nearly a year. I
Speaker 1: feel like we had a frozen shoulder last time. But anyway,
Speaker 1: I've got a frozen shoulder that's lasted nearly a year.
Speaker 1: Physio helps a bit, but progress is slow. Wow, I
Speaker 1: would say, so can injections. I don't know what kind
Speaker 1: of injection. She means, accelerate that process.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are a couple of things you can look
Speaker 2: at for this, because listen, if it's been a year,
Speaker 2: you're going to have to get more aggressive if you
Speaker 2: ever want that shoulder range of motion back and that
Speaker 2: aggression may come through some numbing injections, some steroid injections,
Speaker 2: although I'm not a big fan of repeating those over
Speaker 2: and over. They have a downside, and or regenitive injections.
Speaker 2: But there's something called, we call it here in the
Speaker 2: States m U a manipulation under anesthesia where an anesthesiologist
Speaker 2: knocks you out for a few minutes and your orthopedics
Speaker 2: or sports specials comes in and wrenches your shoulder a
Speaker 2: god bristle. Wait, let's let's be more graphic, breaking it up,
Speaker 2: you know, ah, and and unfreezing the very the very
Speaker 2: frozen shoulder that you have, breaking up that crystal so
Speaker 2: and and then then you can really get into the
Speaker 2: rehab more aggressively. Now I will say, now age again
Speaker 2: of this nice person from Geelong, Natalie from Geelong forty seven.
Speaker 2: So this, this is very common in a we'll call
Speaker 2: it a menopausal or perimenopausal group. This is this would
Speaker 2: benefit also from looking at bioidentical hormone optimization. There are
Speaker 2: hormone receptors in the in the in the tissues of
Speaker 2: the joint. We've got to look at the bone, of course,
Speaker 2: you know, knowing what's going on in there cartilage wise
Speaker 2: and bone wise is very important. So if she's only
Speaker 2: had an X ray, she's a candidate for a good
Speaker 2: quality MRI to see what's what's causing her not to
Speaker 2: be so frozen. Is it an old injury that just
Speaker 2: got stuck. Is it just accumulation of degenerative changes that
Speaker 2: have accelerated. Let's let's dig in and get real granular
Speaker 2: about what's going on. So hopefully she's done that right.
Speaker 1: Okay, the you Natalie love the Doc Tom Oh. Tom's
Speaker 1: a bloody t teenager. Tom's thirty six from Perth, which
Speaker 1: is on the other side of the country. That's on
Speaker 1: our west coast. Doc, this seems weird. I don't know, Tom,
Speaker 1: did you miss something out here? I ruptured my achilles
Speaker 1: two years ago. It healed well. I assume you had
Speaker 1: an operation, but anyway, it healed, but it's thicker and weaker. Also,
Speaker 1: that seems weird. But can regenerative therapy imp improved tissue
Speaker 1: quality after it's already healed?
Speaker 2: So a great question, and what he's saying is accurate.
Speaker 2: Let's let's break it down. And by the way, you
Speaker 2: have incredible reach coast to coast. Craig you're you're the
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan.
Speaker 1: So yeah, hardly, I'm Joe Rogan's little toe. But anyway, good,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 2: So what happens when you rupture the achilles is there
Speaker 2: two ways to go about healing it. The old fashioned
Speaker 2: way is to is to put the foot down, FlexIt down,
Speaker 2: plant tar, flex it and let the two pieces of
Speaker 2: the achilles touch each other and and you keep the
Speaker 2: foot that in some kind of brace and then slowly
Speaker 2: you add a few degrees and bring the foot up
Speaker 2: over the weeks and months as it heals, and you
Speaker 2: will have a thicker, shorter tendon as a result. The
Speaker 2: other way is surgical, and it's very difficult to sew
Speaker 2: those two pieces together. There's very little blood flow in it,
Speaker 2: so it doesn't really heal well. It's difficult to heal.
Speaker 2: So sometimes that thicker scarring in healing is a more
Speaker 2: robust healing. Yeah, there are things you can do for this.
Speaker 2: You know, I would have loved to, you know, had
Speaker 2: access to you right when it happened, because then we
Speaker 2: have a lot more we can do. But you would
Speaker 2: be a candidate for some anti inflammatory biologics injections directly
Speaker 2: into the tendon and around those tissues. There are some peptides,
Speaker 2: you know, I would have you on on a wolverine protocol,
Speaker 2: some body protection compound one fifty seven TV five hundred,
Speaker 2: maybe some cardillacs for cartilage building. These are not drugs
Speaker 2: per se. There are therapeutic peptides that are are Since
Speaker 2: we last talked in January, Craig have just tripled in
Speaker 2: popularity and now our government is going to is, you know,
Speaker 2: take the foot off the gas on on sort of
Speaker 2: prohibiting some of these. It's really tough though, with the
Speaker 2: g LP peptides, the weight loss peptides, because you know,
Speaker 2: there's a big company here that thinks they own they
Speaker 2: own all amino acids and all proteins, and and they
Speaker 2: might be might rhyme with re Illy.
Speaker 1: Speaking of all of this area. What's his name? Senator
Speaker 1: Kennedy was on Rugan yesterday. I think that was an
Speaker 1: interesting chat talking about such things. This is a funny one. Donna, Hi, Donna,
Speaker 1: Donna fifty three from Lon Seston, which is Tasmania, the
Speaker 1: island off the bottom part of Australia, of course, but
Speaker 1: the island off the bottom of mainland Australia. Donna says,
Speaker 1: can you get the doc to comment on the Fat
Speaker 1: Loss shit Show? Yes, the Fat Loss Shit Show, Donna
Speaker 1: Question of the morning.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's dig in. And by the way, thank you
Speaker 2: for the ongoing Australian Region geography lesson because here in
Speaker 2: America they don't teach kids geography. We only know you know,
Speaker 2: we can only go about thirty steps out of our
Speaker 2: house and we get lost.
Speaker 1: I did. First time I went to America was nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty four or five over Christmas New Year. The questions
Speaker 1: that I got asked from Americans were so fucking stupid
Speaker 1: about like I got asked at least three times whether
Speaker 1: or not I drove over, like whether or not I
Speaker 1: drove to America. I'm like, yeah, no, no I did not.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but but I mean, if you're not taught it,
Speaker 1: you can't know it. But it is a very inward
Speaker 1: looking country. We love it. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they really killed education here. It's we're very dumb down.
Speaker 2: So so I love addressing all the intelligent Australian listeners
Speaker 2: to the youth projects smart not only for listening to you,
Speaker 2: but also because you're not educated in America. Oh wow, Okay, let's.
Speaker 1: Tell us show yeah the way the yeah, but she
Speaker 1: wrote fat but wait yeah educate us on the Fat
Speaker 1: Lost Ship show.
Speaker 2: So that's an important distinction because when people come to
Speaker 2: lose weight, we don't want them to lose muscle. We
Speaker 2: want them to lose fat. And there are many ways
Speaker 2: to skin that cat. You know you can, you can
Speaker 2: do it on your own. You got to put in
Speaker 2: the effort. You got to, you know, modify your diet.
Speaker 2: You got to focus on protein and you have to.
Speaker 2: You have to. You have to use your muscles hard
Speaker 2: and heavy, and it takes time. So that is not
Speaker 2: only just a calorie deficit, but is a specific calorie
Speaker 2: deficit because we don't want you to be protein deficient
Speaker 2: because while you're losing fat, we want you putting on muscle. Right,
Speaker 2: that's a body compositional change. Now there are the new
Speaker 2: you know, peptides that are amazing for this, the glps
Speaker 2: and these are the glucagon like peptide receptor agonists. So
Speaker 2: the biochemistry of that is it tricks your body into
Speaker 2: not fully recognizing all the effect of sugar on your
Speaker 2: cells in multiple pathways. It slows you know, things going
Speaker 2: through your guess or intestinal tracks. So you're less hungry.
Speaker 2: You might be a little nauseated at times, which means
Speaker 2: you're not going to eat because you don't feel good.
Speaker 2: But once you get used to that, you simply are
Speaker 2: burning fat. You're you're turning to it almost internally starving
Speaker 2: for things that give you sugar and fat. Breaking down
Speaker 2: fat gives you internal sugar. Whereas if some of the
Speaker 2: early versions of that medicine called semiglutide also known as
Speaker 2: ozepic and other brand names, that that one and these
Speaker 2: are injectable, but that weekly injection, that one can cause
Speaker 2: you to lose some muscle, can some people lose a
Speaker 2: little hair. Then they had a second generation that had
Speaker 2: two receptor mechanisms of the GOP and g I P,
Speaker 2: and that's terzepetide, and it was a little better and
Speaker 2: more more effective at the fat loss compared to muscle loss.
Speaker 2: A brand name might be Manjoro others. But now we
Speaker 2: have what's called retitruetide and reditruicide right now is the king.
Speaker 2: It's that we call it the third generation. It has
Speaker 2: three mechanisms, and you lose the fat faster than you'd
Speaker 2: ever lose any muscle. Particularly you've got to exercise. You
Speaker 2: got to eat the protein, you got to do the work,
Speaker 2: but you can lose it incredibly fast. Then some of
Speaker 2: us are using these GLP threes, these rettrutides at a
Speaker 2: low dose just to keep the hunger down and to
Speaker 2: suppress inflammation because sugar is an inflammatory molecule. So if
Speaker 2: you can block the sugar, you're blocking inflammation. So we're
Speaker 2: showing there are now longitudinal studies with some of these
Speaker 2: peptide medications showing reduced inflammatory diseases, reduced dementia, reduce cancer,
Speaker 2: reduced cardiovascar disease, and more are coming. So this is
Speaker 2: a preventative as well as a good fat loss mechanism. Right. Wow,
Speaker 2: I think that's what she was asking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think so what come? Just trying to
Speaker 1: keep it simple ish. So we just heard the pros.
Speaker 1: What are some of the cons? If any, I'm sure
Speaker 1: they's got it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to inject yourself once a week with
Speaker 2: a small injection in your belly fat. I don't think
Speaker 2: it's it's a big con. You get over that quickly.
Speaker 2: It's doable. Yeah, we've we've done harder things than that's
Speaker 2: once a week. Secondly, you got you got to get
Speaker 2: the medication. If you live in Australia, I don't know
Speaker 2: how difficult it is here in the US. It's easy
Speaker 2: to get it. Everyone's got it.
Speaker 1: Seems to be pretty easy in Australia.
Speaker 2: Now yeah. Uh. And then you got to you got to,
Speaker 2: you know, have someone manage it for you, because you
Speaker 2: want to start at a low dose and carefully tie
Speaker 2: traight up and get used to it. The first few
Speaker 2: days can be that adjustment, that that metabolic change can
Speaker 2: be like hitting the wall in a marathon. You feel
Speaker 2: crappy for a day or two.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Roger that thanks Doc, and you welcome Donna.
Speaker 1: All right, uh get y out? Is oh clear? Another
Speaker 1: lady almost the same age, oh fifty two, also from
Speaker 1: Tazzy Hobot. Hobot is the capital of Tesma. You welcome, Doc.
Speaker 1: I've got terrible I've got rheumatoid arthritis. Is regenerative therapy
Speaker 1: even appropriate for autoimmune conditions? Or could it make things worse?
Speaker 2: So another good question, Hello Hobart. The first first is
Speaker 2: a rheumatoid arthritis is typically a genetic form of arthritis,
Speaker 2: and this usually starts earlier affects many joints, in the
Speaker 2: body as opposed to maybe one joint where you So
Speaker 2: the difference between rheumatoid and osteoarthritis might be, you know
Speaker 2: where it affects the bi So rheumatoid can affect various joints.
Speaker 2: It also favors attacking the cervical spawn or cervical spawn
Speaker 2: and the fingers and other things first, and there are
Speaker 2: regenitive approaches to suppress the inflammatory damage. If you can
Speaker 2: suppress the inflammatory damage, then the genetic issue can't turn into damage.
Speaker 2: So in fact, a lot of the actual medications on
Speaker 2: the market are suppressing the inflammation. Well, we can do
Speaker 2: that biologically. So you can use stem cells or stem
Speaker 2: cell derived signaling factors, or exosomes or even peptides diffusely
Speaker 2: in the body intravenous. You can have a temporary we'll
Speaker 2: call it peak in inflammation after that. So what happens
Speaker 2: is your cells are so used to making inflammation that
Speaker 2: they store they create these little vesicles inside of these
Speaker 2: granules full of inflammatory molecules we call cytokines. And when
Speaker 2: you take to the stem cells or the exosomes and
Speaker 2: you tell your cells, hey, stop goofing around like that
Speaker 2: switch over into anuntry mode that the factory, the cells
Speaker 2: have to rease their inventory, so they release these cytokinds
Speaker 2: into the bloodstream and you can have a temporary few
Speaker 2: days of an increase in inflammation. Thereafter that usually goes
Speaker 2: away and then you benefit from the biologics. Also, if
Speaker 2: you do have one focal, let's say, one joint that's
Speaker 2: really given you trouble, Like it's your thumb. You're a
Speaker 2: really tight arthritic patient. You got a really really about thumb.
Speaker 2: We can also treat that thumb directly with the regenerative biologics.
Speaker 2: That's a direct injection as opposed to an intravenous drip. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with inflammatory things in general, comma, And I know
Speaker 1: that it's a broad range, but I would assume that
Speaker 1: because some foods are inflammatory, or a lot of foods
Speaker 1: are inflammatory more or less, more or less than others.
Speaker 1: So a nutrition couldply big role in this, right.
Speaker 2: Oh sure, you know when we're answering these questions, I'm
Speaker 2: answering on the cutting edge side. You got to do
Speaker 2: all the work in the basics, and Craig is right,
Speaker 2: you got to set the train, you got to live
Speaker 2: that anti inflammatory lifestyle. You got to make sure you're
Speaker 2: getting your sleep, make sure you're getting hydrated, make sure
Speaker 2: you're avoiding things that can increase the inflammation, toxins, pesticides, preservatives,
Speaker 2: seed oils, and yeah, you got to do the basics and.
Speaker 1: Scary movies, scary movies, fucking.
Speaker 2: Them, especially scary movies. And then also, you know, optimal
Speaker 2: hormone management is a piece of that, and you and
Speaker 2: I have talked about that many time times. Track. I
Speaker 2: know that you have trouble getting testosterone down there. I
Speaker 2: hope you don't have as much trouble getting the female hormones.
Speaker 1: Now I've been on estrogen for months now, I feel fantastic. No,
Speaker 1: it's a lot easier for you can send me every Tuesday.
Speaker 1: I will be here everyone at seven o'clock. No, you can.
Speaker 1: The ladies have a lot. It's a lot easier to
Speaker 1: access that kind of stuff as it should be. Look,
Speaker 1: I think it's evolving over here slowly in that kind
Speaker 1: of you know, we're talking about here, everyone, we're talking
Speaker 1: about testosterone therapy. We're talking about therapeutic doses of testosterone
Speaker 1: for people who need it. We're not talking about dickheads
Speaker 1: buying steroids out the back of a station wagon in
Speaker 1: the gym car park. We're talking about a kind of
Speaker 1: a clinical, medically determined application. So yeah, I think one
Speaker 1: of the things over heear, doc, is when anyone hears
Speaker 1: anything about testosterone, because over the years we everything that
Speaker 1: we heard for such a long time and even now
Speaker 1: has anything to do with testosterone is about bodybuilders or gyms,
Speaker 1: or drug sheets or dirty olympians or so it has
Speaker 1: this whole kind of energy around it where it's almost
Speaker 1: like a topic you can't discuss, and even with like
Speaker 1: I've got lots of doctor friends and they say, I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about it, like some do, but because
Speaker 1: they never prescribe it, they never even think about prescribing it,
Speaker 1: like it's not even a thought, and they go, I
Speaker 1: don't you know, I don't, I don't do that.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: Really, I'm sure a lot do, but not a lot
Speaker 1: that I've spoken in terms of GPS, whereas they would
Speaker 1: prescribe of course HRT and you know all the things.
Speaker 1: But in terms of even considering TRT as a you know,
Speaker 1: a viable medical alternative for certain men and even women,
Speaker 1: of course, as you know better than me, it seems
Speaker 1: like over here now women are accessing testosterone cream usually
Speaker 1: pretty easily. Yeah, because that's been that. I don't know
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, that's getting a bit of air time
Speaker 1: and a little bit of legitimacy as it should.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I agree, women do need some testosterone and they
Speaker 2: can be too low and then you know they may
Speaker 2: lack energy and motivation and libido, and course we don't
Speaker 2: want that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. All right, let's how long we got?
Speaker 1: You got another ten or fifteen? How are you doing?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Ah, there's a lot. I'm just trying to Well, let's
Speaker 1: go Ben, because Ben's twenty eight. Ben, I've got t
Speaker 1: shirts older than you. But thanks for thanks for connecting
Speaker 1: with us. Ben says Ben from Brisbane, or as Americans say, Brisbane, Brisbane.
Speaker 1: I've had two hamstring tears in the same spot. I
Speaker 1: rehab properly, the same spot I really have properly, but
Speaker 1: it keeps happening. Is there something regenerative that reduces risk
Speaker 1: reinjury risk?
Speaker 2: YEP? So you know I would do as I get
Speaker 2: a high quality MRI of that hamstring, and I would
Speaker 2: identify the scar tissue or the problem anatomically, and then
Speaker 2: I would inject that area with regeneritive biologics to enhance
Speaker 2: the healing. I would probably do a peptide regimen of
Speaker 2: the Wolverine protocol, maybe maybe some muscle building peptides, and
Speaker 2: if your your strength and bulk are there, then I
Speaker 2: would probably focus on flexibility.
Speaker 1: Wow, what's I've heard of that? I've heard of that?
Speaker 1: That's what's that about?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: That involves stretching right? Fuck? Stretching? Fuck stretching, smetching. Have
Speaker 1: you ever ever heard a girl in a bar go,
Speaker 1: oh my god, look at that guy's range of movement
Speaker 1: around his hips. Nah, No one's doing that hoping to
Speaker 1: give you a fuck. How flexible you are. Let's move
Speaker 1: into some more. There's a few more, kind of generally ones.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to okay Darren from Darwin. That's almost a joke.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, Daza. Darwin is up north of Australia Dock.
Speaker 1: It's very, very very hot. Darren fifty five. I had
Speaker 1: OVID pretty badly two years ago and I haven't felt
Speaker 1: the same syn fatigue, weed ikes, lethargy, and I feel
Speaker 1: a bit flat. I guess that depressed or whatever is
Speaker 1: there is that something in your world or outside your line.
Speaker 1: Good on you, great Australian question.
Speaker 2: It's a it's one hundred and ten percent in my world.
Speaker 2: It's not out of my lane. We're seeing this quite
Speaker 2: a bit. So the spike protein from the COVID infection
Speaker 2: and from some of the vaccines have caused mitochondrial damage.
Speaker 2: Can we use the word mitochondria on your shows that.
Speaker 1: A shul can shual can just done? Side fuck okay.
Speaker 2: I would never. So the mitochondria get damage, the memory
Speaker 2: gets damaged, and you lose your energy, and you lose
Speaker 2: a lot of the functions of the body just aren't there,
Speaker 2: and you're listless, and your your your mood, your drive,
Speaker 2: your your all that so and you probably we want
Speaker 2: to take a nap in the afternoon. So the repair
Speaker 2: for this, you know, we have a protocol of things
Speaker 2: you can do. Supplements. There's a supplement called nato kinase
Speaker 2: you can take to help break down some of the
Speaker 2: extra spike proteins in your bloodstream. There are you can
Speaker 2: do what's called a therapeutic plasma exchange where they kind
Speaker 2: of it's kind of like doing a dialysis of your
Speaker 2: blood and they you clean out a bunch of the gunk.
Speaker 2: Although you can still you know, your body can still
Speaker 2: produce these things, especially if you're vaccinated. Your program now
Speaker 2: to produce this spike protein. That's how you have the immunity.
Speaker 2: So what we really found useful is a couple of
Speaker 2: mitochondrial repair peptides. The first one is called SS thirty one,
Speaker 2: which is actually an approved drug I think it's called
Speaker 2: a lamoprotide or something like that in the US for
Speaker 2: an orphan disease, not a disease that orphans have, but
Speaker 2: it's an orphan disease, means it very, very very no
Speaker 2: one really has except a few people that you know
Speaker 2: sign up with the NIH But but it was a
Speaker 2: way to bring this drug to market. So this is
Speaker 2: actually a wonderful peptide. You can inject and you only
Speaker 2: need it for a month and then once you're done,
Speaker 2: and that fixes the mitochondria membrane. So it's like a battery.
Speaker 2: You gotta have seal the battery, or as we see,
Speaker 2: you got to you got to close the windows before
Speaker 2: you turn on the air conditioning unit. You call it
Speaker 2: air conditioning down there. That surely, so then you get
Speaker 2: then after a month of that, you do what's called
Speaker 2: Mott's c m otsh C which is another mitochondrialpetide. These
Speaker 2: are naturally occurring proteins in our body, but we need
Speaker 2: extra to repair our mitochondria. And that seems to be
Speaker 2: a really great recipe. A month of each of those
Speaker 2: to repair the mitochondria and get your your gumption back,
Speaker 2: gets your your cellular fortitude and therefore your own fortitude back,
Speaker 2: energy in health and activity. And again, if you're a
Speaker 2: mitochondria aren't functioning, you're headed towards disease processes early. So
Speaker 2: you can't do this.
Speaker 1: You won't know because I don't think there's any actual
Speaker 1: data on this, but I'm sure you've got an idea.
Speaker 1: What do you think the prevalence of long COVID or
Speaker 1: COVID related lethargy, tiredness, blah, general bell ah, fatigue, aches,
Speaker 1: all that shit. Do you think it's I think it's
Speaker 1: probably more prevalent than we think, but it's diagnosed maybe
Speaker 1: as something else.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh absolutely, And before the covid era, other
Speaker 2: viruses cause what we used to call chronic fatigue syndrome.
Speaker 2: And by the way, when a process ends in the
Speaker 2: word syndrome, and we really don't know what's causing it,
Speaker 2: so sometimes you know, we just don't know enough yet.
Speaker 2: So we have people come in there are chronically fatigue.
Speaker 2: They have all kinds of different acronyms and things, and
Speaker 2: usually turns out to be some viral infection and the
Speaker 2: residua thereof. And so we're learning more and more through
Speaker 2: root cause analysis and integrative functional medicine on how to
Speaker 2: identify those things and figure them out or at least
Speaker 2: be able to treat them.
Speaker 1: Is that like Lime's disease, is that one of the
Speaker 1: things that's been wheeled out now is kind of a
Speaker 1: hard to discover and how to treat issue.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Limes is one of the main causes of a
Speaker 2: chronic fatigue type syndrome, and doctors in the US can
Speaker 2: go through some additional sort of Lime certification because it's
Speaker 2: such a difficult inflammatory, you know problem. In fact, when
Speaker 2: I speak on regenerative biologics, and I do quite a bit,
Speaker 2: I have a whole section on what we could call
Speaker 2: hyper inflame syndromes like autoimmune et cetera. We also add
Speaker 2: in long infection states and the two most notable ones
Speaker 2: would be COVID and limes.
Speaker 1: MM. Yeah, it's it's getting a little bit more. I'd
Speaker 1: never even heard of it till a few years ago,
Speaker 1: and definitely no expert on it. But yeah, it seems
Speaker 1: something that's griter awareness is around it at the moment. Anyway, Sorry, doc,
Speaker 1: I'm just going to scrawl a little bit, just because
Speaker 1: some of the.
Speaker 2: Lines, by the way, is caused by a tick. A tick,
Speaker 2: not a neurologic, you know, twisted ahead, but a small
Speaker 2: bug that latches on and bites you. And it's specifically
Speaker 2: a deer tick. Do you have one?
Speaker 3: I know you have all kinds of of Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: we have, we have, But we have plenty of deer.
Speaker 3: Deer in Australia. We've got deer for days yep, and
Speaker 3: their ticks. Yeah yeah, okay, well.
Speaker 1: I would assume I don't know, but we've got fucking
Speaker 1: millions of deer. But we love dear everyone, We love them.
Speaker 1: Jason forty one from Wollongong the Gong. I'm not injured.
Speaker 1: Oh this is really intersecting with what we just said,
Speaker 1: so maybe just brush over it quickly. I'm just not
Speaker 1: what I used to be. He's only forty one, bro,
Speaker 1: Come on, slower recovery, less energy, brain fog some days.
Speaker 1: Is that just life or something we can intervene with.
Speaker 1: We'll probably cover that, haven't we. Well, it's not just life,
Speaker 1: you know. So if you came into my office.
Speaker 2: Today, you would be getting to Starstone labs. We would
Speaker 2: be looking at your vaccination history, your infection history. We
Speaker 2: would do some other labs of inflammatory markers. We would
Speaker 2: get down to the root cause of that and start
Speaker 2: to figure it out. You should not be in your
Speaker 2: young forties and feeling that way.
Speaker 1: M Michelle from Sydney. Michelle, if someone has a history
Speaker 1: of cancer, do you think she means herself or a
Speaker 1: family herself? Anyway, If someone has a history of cancer,
Speaker 1: are stem cell treatments risky? Could they stimulate something you
Speaker 1: don't want stimulated?
Speaker 2: Yes? Possibly. We tend not to want to treat patients
Speaker 2: with any active or recent cancer with regenerative biologic stem
Speaker 2: cells that kind of thing. If they have a long
Speaker 2: remission five years or so, and all their markers and
Speaker 2: tests are clean, then we can consider.
Speaker 1: It all right. Um, Carol, Ben, if someone bend gold Coast.
Speaker 1: If someone is overweight or metabolically, that's a very big word, Ben,
Speaker 1: well done. That sounded condescending. I apologize. If someone is
Speaker 1: overweight or metabolically unhealthy. Does that reduce the effectiveness? I
Speaker 1: feel like an academic is writing this, the effectiveness of
Speaker 1: regenerative treatments.
Speaker 2: Yes, we do love to tune people up in all
Speaker 2: possible aspects so they can get the most out of
Speaker 2: a regenitive approach. That's not always possible, you know, and
Speaker 2: whether whether it's just behavioral or what have you. So
Speaker 2: if someone comes in and they've got a bad knee,
Speaker 2: they're trying to avoid surgery, We're going to do something
Speaker 2: for the knee. But they they drink and they smoke,
Speaker 2: and they stay out all night and and and don't exercise.
Speaker 2: I can counsel them, you know, day after day after day,
Speaker 2: but they'll do better if they clean up their lifestyle
Speaker 2: and we fix the terrain before we drive across it.
Speaker 1: Last one, last one? Uh, Donna? Donna? Another Donna? I
Speaker 1: think another donor? Uh sixty three? Donna says. My doctor
Speaker 1: says everything is in inverted commas normal for my age,
Speaker 1: but I don't feel normal. Where's the line between medical
Speaker 1: intervention and just accepting aging?
Speaker 2: Very good question, good question. It's where you want to
Speaker 2: put it for you, Donna, It's yeah, our declining estrogen
Speaker 2: for a middle aged woman. Okay, is that normal for age? Yes?
Speaker 2: Do you want to feel that age or do you
Speaker 2: want to feel twenty years younger? We can do that,
Speaker 2: So it just depends on your goals and your desires. Yes,
Speaker 2: one hundred years ago, fifty years ago, that would be.
Speaker 2: You know, you're a lower estroge and I picked ESK
Speaker 2: for Jesus example. But a lower estrogen was normal for
Speaker 2: an aging woman. But we have we now have the
Speaker 2: technology to keep you feeling and looking and acting younger
Speaker 2: if you so desire.
Speaker 1: H D percent. Thanks your question, Donna perfect. It's so
Speaker 1: interesting the why that all of this is seeming to
Speaker 1: unfold weld holding at a seemingly accelerating right. Our understanding,
Speaker 1: our curiosity, our access, especially in the sites. It seems
Speaker 1: you'd be a fan of RF Kyle, I imagine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love what's happening. It's a real, transparent, open
Speaker 2: conversation of a look at things that is not driven
Speaker 2: by the payer or the or the beneficiary like a
Speaker 2: big pharmaceutical company. So we like what's going on. We
Speaker 2: hope it trickles down to the low level bureaucrats because
Speaker 2: the behavior at the low level hasn't changed. It's still
Speaker 2: of the prior era and we just hope that the
Speaker 2: the top trickles down.
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Speaker 1: then fucking get on a quantas flight back home.
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Speaker 1: You're doing very well now, I will say, you're learning
Speaker 1: the words, but your accent is fucking terrible, right, so
Speaker 1: we need to work on that now. Like sure, you're
Speaker 1: mastering a little bit of Australian geography and you've got
Speaker 1: a few you've got a few ozzy words, but you're
Speaker 1: saying them like a yank, right, so we need to
Speaker 1: address that next time.
Speaker 2: I got a crab before I walk, And I don't
Speaker 2: want to insult anyone, you know, because my exposure to
Speaker 2: Australia is crocodile dundee.
Speaker 1: Until that, well, that's that's pretty generous and I'm way
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Speaker 1: white belt. You've got a few belts to go, but
Speaker 1: you're in the academy. You're on the mat. I'm not
Speaker 1: kicking the shit out of here. Every day. You're catching
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Speaker 1: supporting each other, asking good questions and trying to create
Speaker 1: a unicorn in that space, which is a positive kind
Speaker 1: of space that we can inhabit with nobody selling anybody anything.
Speaker 1: Isn't that beautiful? Just like this podcast. Notice we don't
Speaker 1: sell any shit doc bull chat off here, but appreciate you.
Speaker 1: See you next time.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you so much