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Speaker 1: I get a team. It's your project. It's doctor Jeffrey.

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Speaker 1: It's not real, it's doctor jeff it's me Harps, it's

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Speaker 1: the bloody project.

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Speaker 2: That's you.

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Speaker 1: As I said, it's a seven o four in the

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Speaker 1: am here in the thriving metropolis of Melbourne, down the

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Speaker 1: bottom of Australia. If you're listening around the world, probably

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Speaker 1: arguably the best part of Australia. But you know, other

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Speaker 1: people will debate that. Of course, we're going to get

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Speaker 1: the good doc out, hopefully this year. It would be

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Speaker 1: good to get you over here at Bloody down Under

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Speaker 1: so we can wheel you out like a prize possession

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Speaker 1: to the masses, so that you can inspire and educate

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Speaker 1: and inform. What do you think about that? We've spoken

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Speaker 2: I love it. I mean, if the Royal family can

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Speaker 1: I can not talk about the Royal family. I don't

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Speaker 1: I think he's an ex royal. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: that works. But how are you, mate, How's how's your

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Speaker 1: month been. How are things going so good?

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Speaker 2: I can't stand it, but thank you so much? And

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Speaker 2: how are things by you? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Good? Two little curve balls over here, but that's life,

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Speaker 1: But when I go, oh, can you believe it's already

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Speaker 2: Year, Jeff, Oh wow, that is what all people say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's much already. Bro. All right, So last time, everyone,

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Speaker 1: so let's jump to that. I got some really good,

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Speaker 1: that again? And I went, well, fuck it, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's just break the fucking typ rules that Melissa and

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Speaker 1: Tiff make and list let's just plow some new grounds.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to do that, and we might do

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Speaker 1: one of these each month. We're not sure. We'll see

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Speaker 1: if you like them. So the idea is this, and

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Speaker 1: And so I've asked people to send in quite specific

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Speaker 1: Steve fifty four Mornington. Not everyone, but most people I've got.

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Speaker 1: I feel like some of these I could answer, but

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? You know, first of all, if you are still

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Speaker 2: I would concur with that. I would concur with that completely.

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Speaker 1: me tell you why. When you're surfing, so you need

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Speaker 1: They have so over here CrossFit forty five high rocks.

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Speaker 2: So that's happening. We do see a bit of injuries

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Speaker 1: Perfect Andrew from Bellarat High Bellarat, That's where I was born.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Bellarrat. I have got chronic planta fasciata

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Speaker 1: subtrid orthotic stretching shock wive therapy. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: something like payo stem cells help.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we've had some success there, But let's go back

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Speaker 2: and define shockwave therapy, Craig, because I think that's something.

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Speaker 2: So if you if you had a kidney stone and

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Speaker 2: sound shocks. Yes, like you're at a rock and roll concert,

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Speaker 2: your kidney, pulverizing that. Uh that Califi Kinney saying. Well,

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Speaker 2: turns out shock wave therapy is getting increased utilization in

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Speaker 2: Whatlissa? What did you do to end up with this

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Speaker 1: Okay, the you Natalie love the Doc Tom Oh. Tom's

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Speaker 2: So a great question, and what he's saying is accurate.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's break it down. And by the way, you

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Speaker 2: robust healing. Yeah, there are things you can do for this.

431
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Speaker 2: You know, I would have loved to, you know, had

432
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Speaker 2: access to you right when it happened, because then we

433
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: have a lot more we can do. But you would

434
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Speaker 2: be a candidate for some anti inflammatory biologics injections directly

435
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 2: into the tendon and around those tissues. There are some peptides,

436
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: you know, I would have you on on a wolverine protocol,

437
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 2: some body protection compound one fifty seven TV five hundred,

438
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: maybe some cardillacs for cartilage building. These are not drugs

439
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 2: per se. There are therapeutic peptides that are are Since

440
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 2: we last talked in January, Craig have just tripled in

441
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 2: popularity and now our government is going to is, you know,

442
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: take the foot off the gas on on sort of

443
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 2: prohibiting some of these. It's really tough though, with the

444
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 2: g LP peptides, the weight loss peptides, because you know,

445
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: there's a big company here that thinks they own they

446
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: own all amino acids and all proteins, and and they

447
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 2: might be might rhyme with re Illy.

448
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: Speaking of all of this area. What's his name? Senator

449
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: Kennedy was on Rugan yesterday. I think that was an

450
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: interesting chat talking about such things. This is a funny one. Donna, Hi, Donna,

451
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: Donna fifty three from Lon Seston, which is Tasmania, the

452
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: island off the bottom part of Australia, of course, but

453
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: the island off the bottom of mainland Australia. Donna says,

454
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Speaker 1: can you get the doc to comment on the Fat

455
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Speaker 1: Loss shit Show? Yes, the Fat Loss Shit Show, Donna

456
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 1: Question of the morning.

457
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: Okay, let's dig in. And by the way, thank you

458
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 2: for the ongoing Australian Region geography lesson because here in

459
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: America they don't teach kids geography. We only know you know,

460
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: we can only go about thirty steps out of our

461
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 2: house and we get lost.

462
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: I did. First time I went to America was nineteen

463
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: eighty four or five over Christmas New Year. The questions

464
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: that I got asked from Americans were so fucking stupid

465
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: about like I got asked at least three times whether

466
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: or not I drove over, like whether or not I

467
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: drove to America. I'm like, yeah, no, no I did not.

468
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but but I mean, if you're not taught it,

469
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: you can't know it. But it is a very inward

470
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: looking country. We love it. Oh my goodness.

471
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they really killed education here. It's we're very dumb down.

472
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: So so I love addressing all the intelligent Australian listeners

473
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: to the youth projects smart not only for listening to you,

474
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: but also because you're not educated in America. Oh wow, Okay, let's.

475
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Speaker 1: Tell us show yeah the way the yeah, but she

476
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: wrote fat but wait yeah educate us on the Fat

477
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Speaker 1: Lost Ship show.

478
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Speaker 2: So that's an important distinction because when people come to

479
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: lose weight, we don't want them to lose muscle. We

480
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: want them to lose fat. And there are many ways

481
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,479
Speaker 2: to skin that cat. You know you can, you can

482
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: do it on your own. You got to put in

483
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: the effort. You got to, you know, modify your diet.

484
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: You got to focus on protein and you have to.

485
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: You have to. You have to use your muscles hard

486
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: and heavy, and it takes time. So that is not

487
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: only just a calorie deficit, but is a specific calorie

488
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: deficit because we don't want you to be protein deficient

489
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: because while you're losing fat, we want you putting on muscle. Right,

490
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 2: that's a body compositional change. Now there are the new

491
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: you know, peptides that are amazing for this, the glps

492
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: and these are the glucagon like peptide receptor agonists. So

493
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: the biochemistry of that is it tricks your body into

494
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: not fully recognizing all the effect of sugar on your

495
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: cells in multiple pathways. It slows you know, things going

496
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 2: through your guess or intestinal tracks. So you're less hungry.

497
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: You might be a little nauseated at times, which means

498
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Speaker 2: you're not going to eat because you don't feel good.

499
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: But once you get used to that, you simply are

500
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: burning fat. You're you're turning to it almost internally starving

501
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: for things that give you sugar and fat. Breaking down

502
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: fat gives you internal sugar. Whereas if some of the

503
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: early versions of that medicine called semiglutide also known as

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00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: ozepic and other brand names, that that one and these

505
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: are injectable, but that weekly injection, that one can cause

506
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: you to lose some muscle, can some people lose a

507
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: little hair. Then they had a second generation that had

508
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: two receptor mechanisms of the GOP and g I P,

509
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: and that's terzepetide, and it was a little better and

510
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: more more effective at the fat loss compared to muscle loss.

511
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: A brand name might be Manjoro others. But now we

512
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: have what's called retitruetide and reditruicide right now is the king.

513
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: It's that we call it the third generation. It has

514
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: three mechanisms, and you lose the fat faster than you'd

515
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: ever lose any muscle. Particularly you've got to exercise. You

516
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: got to eat the protein, you got to do the work,

517
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: but you can lose it incredibly fast. Then some of

518
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: us are using these GLP threes, these rettrutides at a

519
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: low dose just to keep the hunger down and to

520
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: suppress inflammation because sugar is an inflammatory molecule. So if

521
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: you can block the sugar, you're blocking inflammation. So we're

522
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: showing there are now longitudinal studies with some of these

523
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: peptide medications showing reduced inflammatory diseases, reduced dementia, reduce cancer,

524
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: reduced cardiovascar disease, and more are coming. So this is

525
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: a preventative as well as a good fat loss mechanism. Right. Wow,

526
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Speaker 2: I think that's what she was asking about.

527
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think so what come? Just trying to

528
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: keep it simple ish. So we just heard the pros.

529
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Speaker 1: What are some of the cons? If any, I'm sure

530
00:32:59,480 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: they's got it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to inject yourself once a week with

532
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Speaker 2: a small injection in your belly fat. I don't think

533
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: it's it's a big con. You get over that quickly.

534
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: It's doable. Yeah, we've we've done harder things than that's

535
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: once a week. Secondly, you got you got to get

536
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Speaker 2: the medication. If you live in Australia, I don't know

537
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: how difficult it is here in the US. It's easy

538
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: to get it. Everyone's got it.

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00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: Seems to be pretty easy in Australia.

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00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: Now yeah. Uh. And then you got to you got to,

541
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: you know, have someone manage it for you, because you

542
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: want to start at a low dose and carefully tie

543
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: traight up and get used to it. The first few

544
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: days can be that adjustment, that that metabolic change can

545
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: be like hitting the wall in a marathon. You feel

546
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Speaker 2: crappy for a day or two.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Roger that thanks Doc, and you welcome Donna.

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Speaker 1: All right, uh get y out? Is oh clear? Another

549
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: lady almost the same age, oh fifty two, also from

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Speaker 1: Tazzy Hobot. Hobot is the capital of Tesma. You welcome, Doc.

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Speaker 1: I've got terrible I've got rheumatoid arthritis. Is regenerative therapy

552
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: even appropriate for autoimmune conditions? Or could it make things worse?

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00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: So another good question, Hello Hobart. The first first is

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00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: a rheumatoid arthritis is typically a genetic form of arthritis,

555
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: and this usually starts earlier affects many joints, in the

556
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: body as opposed to maybe one joint where you So

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00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: the difference between rheumatoid and osteoarthritis might be, you know

558
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: where it affects the bi So rheumatoid can affect various joints.

559
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: It also favors attacking the cervical spawn or cervical spawn

560
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: and the fingers and other things first, and there are

561
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: regenitive approaches to suppress the inflammatory damage. If you can

562
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: suppress the inflammatory damage, then the genetic issue can't turn into damage.

563
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 2: So in fact, a lot of the actual medications on

564
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: the market are suppressing the inflammation. Well, we can do

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Speaker 2: that biologically. So you can use stem cells or stem

566
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 2: cell derived signaling factors, or exosomes or even peptides diffusely

567
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: in the body intravenous. You can have a temporary we'll

568
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 2: call it peak in inflammation after that. So what happens

569
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: is your cells are so used to making inflammation that

570
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: they store they create these little vesicles inside of these

571
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 2: granules full of inflammatory molecules we call cytokines. And when

572
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 2: you take to the stem cells or the exosomes and

573
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: you tell your cells, hey, stop goofing around like that

574
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: switch over into anuntry mode that the factory, the cells

575
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: have to rease their inventory, so they release these cytokinds

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00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: into the bloodstream and you can have a temporary few

577
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: days of an increase in inflammation. Thereafter that usually goes

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00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: away and then you benefit from the biologics. Also, if

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Speaker 2: you do have one focal, let's say, one joint that's

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00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: really given you trouble, Like it's your thumb. You're a

581
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: really tight arthritic patient. You got a really really about thumb.

582
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 2: We can also treat that thumb directly with the regenerative biologics.

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00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: That's a direct injection as opposed to an intravenous drip. Yeah.

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00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, with inflammatory things in general, comma, And I know

585
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Speaker 1: that it's a broad range, but I would assume that

586
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: because some foods are inflammatory, or a lot of foods

587
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: are inflammatory more or less, more or less than others.

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00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: So a nutrition couldply big role in this, right.

589
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 2: Oh sure, you know when we're answering these questions, I'm

590
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: answering on the cutting edge side. You got to do

591
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 2: all the work in the basics, and Craig is right,

592
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 2: you got to set the train, you got to live

593
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: that anti inflammatory lifestyle. You got to make sure you're

594
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: getting your sleep, make sure you're getting hydrated, make sure

595
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: you're avoiding things that can increase the inflammation, toxins, pesticides, preservatives,

596
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 2: seed oils, and yeah, you got to do the basics and.

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00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: Scary movies, scary movies, fucking.

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00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 2: Them, especially scary movies. And then also, you know, optimal

599
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: hormone management is a piece of that, and you and

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Speaker 2: I have talked about that many time times. Track. I

601
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: know that you have trouble getting testosterone down there. I

602
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: hope you don't have as much trouble getting the female hormones.

603
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: Now I've been on estrogen for months now, I feel fantastic. No,

604
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 1: it's a lot easier for you can send me every Tuesday.

605
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: I will be here everyone at seven o'clock. No, you can.

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00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: The ladies have a lot. It's a lot easier to

607
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: access that kind of stuff as it should be. Look,

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Speaker 1: I think it's evolving over here slowly in that kind

609
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: of you know, we're talking about here, everyone, we're talking

610
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Speaker 1: about testosterone therapy. We're talking about therapeutic doses of testosterone

611
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: for people who need it. We're not talking about dickheads

612
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: buying steroids out the back of a station wagon in

613
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: the gym car park. We're talking about a kind of

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Speaker 1: a clinical, medically determined application. So yeah, I think one

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Speaker 1: of the things over heear, doc, is when anyone hears

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Speaker 1: anything about testosterone, because over the years we everything that

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Speaker 1: we heard for such a long time and even now

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Speaker 1: has anything to do with testosterone is about bodybuilders or gyms,

619
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Speaker 1: or drug sheets or dirty olympians or so it has

620
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: this whole kind of energy around it where it's almost

621
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: like a topic you can't discuss, and even with like

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00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: I've got lots of doctor friends and they say, I

623
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: don't know anything about it, like some do, but because

624
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 1: they never prescribe it, they never even think about prescribing it,

625
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: like it's not even a thought, and they go, I

626
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: don't you know, I don't, I don't do that.

627
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Really, I'm sure a lot do, but not a lot

629
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Speaker 1: that I've spoken in terms of GPS, whereas they would

630
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: prescribe of course HRT and you know all the things.

631
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: But in terms of even considering TRT as a you know,

632
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: a viable medical alternative for certain men and even women,

633
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: of course, as you know better than me, it seems

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00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: like over here now women are accessing testosterone cream usually

635
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: pretty easily. Yeah, because that's been that. I don't know

636
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, that's getting a bit of air time

637
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: and a little bit of legitimacy as it should.

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00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I agree, women do need some testosterone and they

639
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 2: can be too low and then you know they may

640
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: lack energy and motivation and libido, and course we don't

641
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: want that.

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00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. All right, let's how long we got?

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Speaker 1: You got another ten or fifteen? How are you doing?

644
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Speaker 2: Absolutely?

645
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Speaker 1: Ah, there's a lot. I'm just trying to Well, let's

646
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Speaker 1: go Ben, because Ben's twenty eight. Ben, I've got t

647
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Speaker 1: shirts older than you. But thanks for thanks for connecting

648
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Speaker 1: with us. Ben says Ben from Brisbane, or as Americans say, Brisbane, Brisbane.

649
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: I've had two hamstring tears in the same spot. I

650
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Speaker 1: rehab properly, the same spot I really have properly, but

651
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Speaker 1: it keeps happening. Is there something regenerative that reduces risk

652
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: reinjury risk?

653
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: YEP? So you know I would do as I get

654
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Speaker 2: a high quality MRI of that hamstring, and I would

655
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Speaker 2: identify the scar tissue or the problem anatomically, and then

656
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: I would inject that area with regeneritive biologics to enhance

657
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Speaker 2: the healing. I would probably do a peptide regimen of

658
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: the Wolverine protocol, maybe maybe some muscle building peptides, and

659
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: if your your strength and bulk are there, then I

660
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Speaker 2: would probably focus on flexibility.

661
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Speaker 1: Wow, what's I've heard of that? I've heard of that?

662
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Speaker 1: That's what's that about?

663
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Speaker 3: Oh?

664
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Speaker 1: That involves stretching right? Fuck? Stretching? Fuck stretching, smetching. Have

665
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Speaker 1: you ever ever heard a girl in a bar go,

666
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Speaker 1: oh my god, look at that guy's range of movement

667
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: around his hips. Nah, No one's doing that hoping to

668
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: give you a fuck. How flexible you are. Let's move

669
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Speaker 1: into some more. There's a few more, kind of generally ones.

670
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to okay Darren from Darwin. That's almost a joke.

671
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Speaker 1: Oh sorry, Daza. Darwin is up north of Australia Dock.

672
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Speaker 1: It's very, very very hot. Darren fifty five. I had

673
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Speaker 1: OVID pretty badly two years ago and I haven't felt

674
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Speaker 1: the same syn fatigue, weed ikes, lethargy, and I feel

675
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Speaker 1: a bit flat. I guess that depressed or whatever is

676
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: there is that something in your world or outside your line.

677
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Speaker 1: Good on you, great Australian question.

678
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Speaker 2: It's a it's one hundred and ten percent in my world.

679
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 2: It's not out of my lane. We're seeing this quite

680
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Speaker 2: a bit. So the spike protein from the COVID infection

681
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: and from some of the vaccines have caused mitochondrial damage.

682
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Speaker 2: Can we use the word mitochondria on your shows that.

683
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Speaker 1: A shul can shual can just done? Side fuck okay.

684
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: I would never. So the mitochondria get damage, the memory

685
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,959
Speaker 2: gets damaged, and you lose your energy, and you lose

686
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: a lot of the functions of the body just aren't there,

687
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: and you're listless, and your your your mood, your drive,

688
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: your your all that so and you probably we want

689
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: to take a nap in the afternoon. So the repair

690
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: for this, you know, we have a protocol of things

691
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 2: you can do. Supplements. There's a supplement called nato kinase

692
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: you can take to help break down some of the

693
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: extra spike proteins in your bloodstream. There are you can

694
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Speaker 2: do what's called a therapeutic plasma exchange where they kind

695
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: of it's kind of like doing a dialysis of your

696
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: blood and they you clean out a bunch of the gunk.

697
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Speaker 2: Although you can still you know, your body can still

698
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Speaker 2: produce these things, especially if you're vaccinated. Your program now

699
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: to produce this spike protein. That's how you have the immunity.

700
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Speaker 2: So what we really found useful is a couple of

701
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Speaker 2: mitochondrial repair peptides. The first one is called SS thirty one,

702
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 2: which is actually an approved drug I think it's called

703
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: a lamoprotide or something like that in the US for

704
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: an orphan disease, not a disease that orphans have, but

705
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: it's an orphan disease, means it very, very very no

706
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Speaker 2: one really has except a few people that you know

707
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Speaker 2: sign up with the NIH But but it was a

708
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Speaker 2: way to bring this drug to market. So this is

709
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Speaker 2: actually a wonderful peptide. You can inject and you only

710
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Speaker 2: need it for a month and then once you're done,

711
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 2: and that fixes the mitochondria membrane. So it's like a battery.

712
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: You gotta have seal the battery, or as we see,

713
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Speaker 2: you got to you got to close the windows before

714
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Speaker 2: you turn on the air conditioning unit. You call it

715
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Speaker 2: air conditioning down there. That surely, so then you get

716
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: then after a month of that, you do what's called

717
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Speaker 2: Mott's c m otsh C which is another mitochondrialpetide. These

718
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: are naturally occurring proteins in our body, but we need

719
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Speaker 2: extra to repair our mitochondria. And that seems to be

720
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Speaker 2: a really great recipe. A month of each of those

721
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Speaker 2: to repair the mitochondria and get your your gumption back,

722
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 2: gets your your cellular fortitude and therefore your own fortitude back,

723
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Speaker 2: energy in health and activity. And again, if you're a

724
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Speaker 2: mitochondria aren't functioning, you're headed towards disease processes early. So

725
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Speaker 2: you can't do this.

726
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Speaker 1: You won't know because I don't think there's any actual

727
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Speaker 1: data on this, but I'm sure you've got an idea.

728
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Speaker 1: What do you think the prevalence of long COVID or

729
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 1: COVID related lethargy, tiredness, blah, general bell ah, fatigue, aches,

730
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Speaker 1: all that shit. Do you think it's I think it's

731
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Speaker 1: probably more prevalent than we think, but it's diagnosed maybe

732
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Speaker 1: as something else.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, oh absolutely, And before the covid era, other

734
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Speaker 2: viruses cause what we used to call chronic fatigue syndrome.

735
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: And by the way, when a process ends in the

736
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Speaker 2: word syndrome, and we really don't know what's causing it,

737
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 2: so sometimes you know, we just don't know enough yet.

738
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Speaker 2: So we have people come in there are chronically fatigue.

739
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: They have all kinds of different acronyms and things, and

740
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: usually turns out to be some viral infection and the

741
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: residua thereof. And so we're learning more and more through

742
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Speaker 2: root cause analysis and integrative functional medicine on how to

743
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Speaker 2: identify those things and figure them out or at least

744
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Speaker 2: be able to treat them.

745
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Speaker 1: Is that like Lime's disease, is that one of the

746
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Speaker 1: things that's been wheeled out now is kind of a

747
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Speaker 1: hard to discover and how to treat issue.

748
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Limes is one of the main causes of a

749
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 2: chronic fatigue type syndrome, and doctors in the US can

750
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Speaker 2: go through some additional sort of Lime certification because it's

751
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 2: such a difficult inflammatory, you know problem. In fact, when

752
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: I speak on regenerative biologics, and I do quite a bit,

753
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: I have a whole section on what we could call

754
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 2: hyper inflame syndromes like autoimmune et cetera. We also add

755
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Speaker 2: in long infection states and the two most notable ones

756
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Speaker 2: would be COVID and limes.

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Speaker 1: MM. Yeah, it's it's getting a little bit more. I'd

758
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Speaker 1: never even heard of it till a few years ago,

759
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: and definitely no expert on it. But yeah, it seems

760
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Speaker 1: something that's griter awareness is around it at the moment. Anyway, Sorry, doc,

761
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Speaker 1: I'm just going to scrawl a little bit, just because

762
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Speaker 1: some of the.

763
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Speaker 2: Lines, by the way, is caused by a tick. A tick,

764
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Speaker 2: not a neurologic, you know, twisted ahead, but a small

765
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Speaker 2: bug that latches on and bites you. And it's specifically

766
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Speaker 2: a deer tick. Do you have one?

767
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Speaker 3: I know you have all kinds of of Yeah, yeah, yeah,

768
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Speaker 3: we have, we have, But we have plenty of deer.

769
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Speaker 3: Deer in Australia. We've got deer for days yep, and

770
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Speaker 3: their ticks. Yeah yeah, okay, well.

771
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Speaker 1: I would assume I don't know, but we've got fucking

772
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Speaker 1: millions of deer. But we love dear everyone, We love them.

773
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: Jason forty one from Wollongong the Gong. I'm not injured.

774
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: Oh this is really intersecting with what we just said,

775
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: so maybe just brush over it quickly. I'm just not

776
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: what I used to be. He's only forty one, bro,

777
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: Come on, slower recovery, less energy, brain fog some days.

778
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: Is that just life or something we can intervene with.

779
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 1: We'll probably cover that, haven't we. Well, it's not just life,

780
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: you know. So if you came into my office.

781
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: Today, you would be getting to Starstone labs. We would

782
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 2: be looking at your vaccination history, your infection history. We

783
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: would do some other labs of inflammatory markers. We would

784
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 2: get down to the root cause of that and start

785
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: to figure it out. You should not be in your

786
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Speaker 2: young forties and feeling that way.

787
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Speaker 1: M Michelle from Sydney. Michelle, if someone has a history

788
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Speaker 1: of cancer, do you think she means herself or a

789
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Speaker 1: family herself? Anyway, If someone has a history of cancer,

790
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Speaker 1: are stem cell treatments risky? Could they stimulate something you

791
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: don't want stimulated?

792
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 2: Yes? Possibly. We tend not to want to treat patients

793
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: with any active or recent cancer with regenerative biologic stem

794
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 2: cells that kind of thing. If they have a long

795
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: remission five years or so, and all their markers and

796
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 2: tests are clean, then we can consider.

797
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Speaker 1: It all right. Um, Carol, Ben, if someone bend gold Coast.

798
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Speaker 1: If someone is overweight or metabolically, that's a very big word, Ben,

799
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Speaker 1: well done. That sounded condescending. I apologize. If someone is

800
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Speaker 1: overweight or metabolically unhealthy. Does that reduce the effectiveness? I

801
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: feel like an academic is writing this, the effectiveness of

802
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: regenerative treatments.

803
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: Yes, we do love to tune people up in all

804
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 2: possible aspects so they can get the most out of

805
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 2: a regenitive approach. That's not always possible, you know, and

806
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: whether whether it's just behavioral or what have you. So

807
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: if someone comes in and they've got a bad knee,

808
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 2: they're trying to avoid surgery, We're going to do something

809
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 2: for the knee. But they they drink and they smoke,

810
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: and they stay out all night and and and don't exercise.

811
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Speaker 2: I can counsel them, you know, day after day after day,

812
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 2: but they'll do better if they clean up their lifestyle

813
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: and we fix the terrain before we drive across it.

814
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Speaker 1: Last one, last one? Uh, Donna? Donna? Another Donna? I

815
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Speaker 1: think another donor? Uh sixty three? Donna says. My doctor

816
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Speaker 1: says everything is in inverted commas normal for my age,

817
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Speaker 1: but I don't feel normal. Where's the line between medical

818
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: intervention and just accepting aging?

819
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Speaker 2: Very good question, good question. It's where you want to

820
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Speaker 2: put it for you, Donna, It's yeah, our declining estrogen

821
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Speaker 2: for a middle aged woman. Okay, is that normal for age? Yes?

822
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Speaker 2: Do you want to feel that age or do you

823
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Speaker 2: want to feel twenty years younger? We can do that,

824
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Speaker 2: So it just depends on your goals and your desires. Yes,

825
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: one hundred years ago, fifty years ago, that would be.

826
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Speaker 2: You know, you're a lower estroge and I picked ESK

827
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Speaker 2: for Jesus example. But a lower estrogen was normal for

828
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Speaker 2: an aging woman. But we have we now have the

829
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Speaker 2: technology to keep you feeling and looking and acting younger

830
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Speaker 2: if you so desire.

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Speaker 1: H D percent. Thanks your question, Donna perfect. It's so

832
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Speaker 1: interesting the why that all of this is seeming to

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Speaker 1: unfold weld holding at a seemingly accelerating right. Our understanding,

834
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Speaker 1: our curiosity, our access, especially in the sites. It seems

835
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Speaker 1: you'd be a fan of RF Kyle, I imagine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love what's happening. It's a real, transparent, open

837
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 2: conversation of a look at things that is not driven

838
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 2: by the payer or the or the beneficiary like a

839
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: big pharmaceutical company. So we like what's going on. We

840
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 2: hope it trickles down to the low level bureaucrats because

841
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: the behavior at the low level hasn't changed. It's still

842
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Speaker 2: of the prior era and we just hope that the

843
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Speaker 2: the top trickles down.

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Speaker 1: We'll get you up by the cop. I appreciate you talk.

845
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: It's always good. Tell people how theymont connect with you.

846
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: Somebody might want to have a bit of a medical holiday.

847
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: Just go I have a place, a few bits, get

848
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, you fix, get a cuddle from the doc

849
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: tickety Boo, have catch a few shows, maybe too much food,

850
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: then fucking get on a quantas flight back home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we're putting together the You Project Tickety Boo special.

852
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Speaker 2: You can come over. So I'm learning how to talk

853
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Speaker 2: like like the bloke that taught me to talk like this,

854
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: and uh right, yeah listen. I love these questions in

855
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Speaker 2: this feedback, so please please please text, write, email Craig

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Speaker 2: Harper all day long, fill his inbox, tell us what

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Speaker 2: you want to hear, and if you want a whole

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Speaker 2: show on something, we'll do it. If you want to

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Speaker 2: do the question and answer and you're ready for it,

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Speaker 2: let's do that again. I love it. But we're at

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Speaker 2: re celebrate r E c E l L E B

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Speaker 2: r A t E. That's re Celebrate dot com and

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Speaker 2: at re celebrate on install, TikTok Uh, stem cell, whisper

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Speaker 2: on YouTube, follow us, like us, reach out. We love

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Speaker 2: to meet new people and I'm learning how to talk Australian,

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Speaker 2: so I think we're getting there. I can actually I

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Speaker 2: can converse with almost anybody and from from Darwin, Hobart

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Speaker 2: other places i've heard of. Today, let's let's do it. Colin.

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Speaker 1: You're doing very well now, I will say, you're learning

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Speaker 1: the words, but your accent is fucking terrible, right, so

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Speaker 1: we need to work on that now. Like sure, you're

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Speaker 1: mastering a little bit of Australian geography and you've got

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Speaker 1: a few you've got a few ozzy words, but you're

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Speaker 1: saying them like a yank, right, so we need to

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Speaker 1: address that next time.

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Speaker 2: I got a crab before I walk, And I don't

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Speaker 2: want to insult anyone, you know, because my exposure to

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Speaker 2: Australia is crocodile dundee.

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Speaker 1: Until that, well, that's that's pretty generous and I'm way

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Speaker 1: better than him. It's so at this stage, you're a

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Speaker 1: white belt. You've got a few belts to go, but

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Speaker 1: you're in the academy. You're on the mat. I'm not

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Speaker 1: kicking the shit out of here. Every day. You're catching

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Speaker 1: me a couple of times here and there. So you're going,

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Speaker 1: all right, we will chat something else. I was going

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Speaker 1: to say, Oh, that's what I was going to say. So,

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Speaker 1: boys and girls, the you Project Facebook page, which is

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Speaker 1: a little kind of off my main socials, but it's

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Speaker 1: a nice little group of about four and a half

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Speaker 1: thousand of you that just jump in there a lot

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Speaker 1: and talk and chat. But that's probably although I've asked

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Speaker 1: for these questions in other places before. But for those

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Speaker 1: of you are listening right now, going yeah, that's all good, doc.

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Speaker 1: But where do I go where you actually can go

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Speaker 1: off the back of this and I will get them

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Speaker 1: and I will keep them. Yeah, or one of my

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Speaker 1: team will is just go to the you project Facebook

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Speaker 1: page and sign up. There's no hooks, catches, agendas. We

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Speaker 1: don't sell you anything. There's no upsell on sell, there's

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Speaker 1: fucking nothing. There's just awesome people in a group being awesome,

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Speaker 1: supporting each other, asking good questions and trying to create

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Speaker 1: a unicorn in that space, which is a positive kind

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Speaker 1: of space that we can inhabit with nobody selling anybody anything.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that beautiful? Just like this podcast. Notice we don't

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Speaker 1: sell any shit doc bull chat off here, but appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: See you next time.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you so much