WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 14 January 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:05.080 From the sky in Center. This is Paul Murray Live. 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:08.560 Can I mate, come on in world under Shari as 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:11.080 always with the inside word about what's happening around the. 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:12.320 World with the biggest stories. 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:16.360 So right now nine pm Canberra, Sydney and Melbourne time, 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:23.200 just gone midday in Gaza and in Israel, and as 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:26.400 Shari was saying, reporters are apparently being briefed as we 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:30.280 speak in Doha, in Qatar where it is about to 0:00:30.320 --> 0:00:33.360 go one pm. In fact it's just gone one pm 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:37.800 about a potential ceasefire to the situation that has been 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:41.000 happening there of course since October the seventh. The early 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:44.640 details that Sharry has brought exclusively to us tonight is 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.960 that the exchange will be one thousand Palestinian prisoners thirty 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:52.280 three hostages that are currently being held by Hamas in 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:55.920 and around Gaza. The expectation is we'll learn more detailed 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:58.080 this hour and of course for full coverage. Make sure 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:00.080 you stick with us at skynews dot com dot A 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.560 you for this show tonight. On top of all of that, 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:04.600 there's an awful lot to get to, including the great 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:06.640 Nigel Farage. I've got a lot of emails towards the 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:07.920 end of last year say come on mate, you've got 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:10.319 to talk longer to him. That's the plan in twenty 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:13.320 twenty five, even more, Nigel Farage. The only place you'll 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.440 see him on Australium TV. The regular appearance is right 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.040 here on Paul Murray Live. Well under the cops in 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:21.360 Victoria who found a way to stick it to the 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:25.319 Victorian acting premiere right in front of him and disrupted 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.120 his press conference today. We'll explain why in a moment 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:32.280 or two's time, and we know what they hid this summer. 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:37.399 Despite what they say about the economy, surprise, surprise, the reality. 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:38.360 Is going to be very different. 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:40.680 And I'll get to some of those details that they 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:42.959 don't want you to know before we are done tonight. 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:44.920 We've got a big one ahead now. 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:46.480 We know the Prime ministers in the world of pain 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:48.040 and he thinks that somehow he's going to be able 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:50.320 to spend his way out of trouble. The polls couldn't 0:01:50.360 --> 0:01:53.880 be clearer that even in the turnbul Times. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.240 The Guardian, over half of the people. 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:59.880 Who answer their poll say that the country is on 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:02.960 the wrong track and that the Prime Minister's disapproval is 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:08.920 now in the territory where more people disapprove than approve. Meantime, 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.200 Newspoll of course, has rated this Prime Minister as the 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:16.119 weakest leader in a decade. There's a lot of chat 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.400 about Whitlam. Well let's go back to Rudd, Gillard Rudd. 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.040 He's right back to as bad as that government was 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.760 and we all know how they copped it by going 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:28.079 into minority in twenty ten and then blasted out of 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.840 government in twenty and thirteen. So the Prime Minister has 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.400 a plan and that plan, of course is to spend 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:39.080 other people's money, otherwise known as of course your money. 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.839 Another example of it today, third day in a row, 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:46.560 major announcement, the excuse for a press conference. Of course, 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.280 it's not just about the local announcement which local media 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:51.880 will pick up on. It's about an opportunity to pretend 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:53.959 that's a reason why the Prime Minister needs to be 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.000 out and about when really he wants to talk about 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:00.680 the national issues or just bash away at Peter Dutton. 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:04.440 His announcement today was to spend five million dollars to 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.880 help beautify the wonderful south coast town in New South Wales. 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.120 Now why this. 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:13.720 Is exactly the best use of federal taxpayers dollars. 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:15.240 We'll all wait and see. But oh, that's right. 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.160 It's in a marginal seat, a marginal seat that Labor 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.480 could well lose because they only won it by about 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.880 three hundred and seventy five votes last time, and that's 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:26.200 when the tide was out on the Liberal Party. If 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.880 presumably the tide is out on Labor, that Gilmour would 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.720 be one of the first to four. We know that 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.920 there was billions of dollars that were announced yesterday if 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:38.120 you re elect this government to be spent on the 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.960 in the Inn, and of course billions of dollars before that, 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.840 he could have already spent on the Bruce Highway. But no, no, no, 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:46.840 there's a promise that if you reelect him, finally I'll 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:48.280 do what I haven't done for. 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:49.520 The past three years. 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:54.040 But I've got to say there's always something in each 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:57.440 and every one of these announcements that just growns mcgear's 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:01.760 a little because as necessary as some big promises of 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.880 government are small amounts of money to just have an 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:08.280 excuse to have a press conference is an example of 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:12.800 money that I believe could be spent somewhere else. Because 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.360 in the same way, that there is a fire, and 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:19.000 I choose that metaphor intentionally. When a fire is burning, 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.720 you need to put it out. You can then spend 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.320 money to rebuild or to prevent against another fire. But 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.839 when people are in the middle of stress, they need 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:33.159 emergency support. There are three million people who are this 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:37.040 close to homelessness. I talk about them every night because 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.919 they are our Faro Australians, the Australians whom should be 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:46.760 receiving maximum support from governments, but they are receiving maximum 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:51.880 support right now from charities. The idea that we have 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:55.719 food lines in twenty twenty five, a quarter of the 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.680 way into the twenty first century, that are as bad 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:00.760 as they have been in. 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:02.200 This century is a disgrace. 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:04.840 A disgrace to a government that claims to care about 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.440 costs living, claims to care about poor people, but just 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.400 assumes that somehow they will be able to scare them 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.919 in devoting for them rather than helping them after the 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:17.960 next election. And we also learned today about another group 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:21.080 of people who are in a world of trouble, and 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:24.120 it's the kids of the parents who are in financial trouble. 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.159 This should be very close to the Leads story. Tonight 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.880 because it's a statement about the failures of our country. 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:39.599 One in three Australian parents are apparently struggling right now 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:47.279 to pay the basic expenses of going to a public school. Now, 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.360 that news website repeated a press release which came out 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:53.479 from an organization called Act for Kids, and I'm going 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.640 to read from that now. Research from the national child 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.840 protection organization Act for Kids has revealed almost one three Australians, 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.680 or thirty percent, are struggling to pay for their children's 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:08.560 basic educational needs. This is things like uniforms, stationary books, 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.760 excursions and school fees. We're not talking about the elaborate 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:17.080 private school fees. We're talking about the basic things that 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.720 should be provided, but for some reason you have to 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:23.200 pay for to access a system that already you or 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.000 other members of your family have paid. 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:25.800 Taxes to pay for. 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:30.040 The Active Kids survey of almost one thousand Australian parents 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.360 also found that a quarter or more than a quarter 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:36.280 twenty seven percent are finding it difficult to afford the 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:40.240 Internet at home. Now, for all the conversation about billions 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.960 of dollars extra for the NBN, no conversations about it 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:47.240 being cheaper or virtually free for people who are in 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.600 this group, no conversation about that whatsoever. Forty percent of 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.560 so they're battling to pay for extracurlque, extra curricular You 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.520 knew I'd fail that one activities important to their child's 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:03.080 social and physical well being, sport, music. Now we have 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:06.880 a Prime Minister who every single day is spending other 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:10.960 people's money, often years down the track, never never fingers crossed, 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:14.360 because the reality is that the budget is in structural 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.520 deficit for the next forty years, meaning that this government 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:20.880 has put us in a place where the federal government 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:24.840 will spend more than it earns and it will get 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:32.080 worse every year between now and twenty sixty. That's how 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.720 bad the scenario is going to be. Now we know 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:36.880 that by the years of twenty forty, twenty fifty and 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:40.280 twenty sixty, the Australian population, which is currently just under 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:42.920 thirty will go past thirty, past forty and maybe even 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.760 on its way towards fifty, double the number of people 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:50.480 that are here now fifty million people. Yet still the 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:55.200 government promises to spend more than it earns. The only 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:59.400 solution is to increase taxes, and already Australians pay too 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:01.560 much tax. As I tod you last night, the single 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:05.720 greatest source of revenue for this federal government is not 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.480 the GST. It is not petrol taxes, it is not 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:13.160 cigarette taxes, it is not even company tax. It is 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:17.240 personal income tax. Yet still under all of that system, 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.640 we are in a world of trouble. And we've got 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:23.040 five million dollars to beautify parts of Narra again beautiful city. 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.800 And I'm not going to argue with what obviously has 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:27.920 been ticked off as a good idea, but we know 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:30.960 why that money is being announced at a prime ministerial level, 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:33.360 and it's because it's a seat that if he loses, 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.880 he gets one seat closer towards what seems to be 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:40.120 an inevitable minority government, or it could be the start 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.440 of many dominoes to fall, meaning that the minority government 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:44.640 may be formed by the current Prime minister, but by 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.400 the alternative prime minister in Peter Dudden and the Liberal 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:51.960 and National Party. But it is to me a disgrace 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:55.959 that with all of the money that comes into government 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:57.560 more than ever before, and all of the money that 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.680 goes out, which is more than ever before, we have 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:05.160 a scenario where one in three parents, and that means kids. 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:10.240 One in three kids is living in a household that 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.440 may not be able to pay for their school uniform. 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.920 Think about how that process which puts pressure on the 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.280 start of your life, affeits the next stage, the next stage, 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.160 and the next stage of your life. 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.120 The Act for kids. People were on with Chung Lei 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:25.520 today here on Sky News. 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:28.760 So if we think about the kinds of things that 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:30.680 we need to put into place to make sure kids 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.520 do a great job at school, then parents are really 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.679 worried about providing them this year. When parents are really stressed, 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.440 it passes on to kids who are already a little 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:41.080 bit anxious about going to school. 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:47.160 What I find despicable about Anthony Albernezi and his government's 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:51.720 priorities is that this is a government that despite the 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:56.000 fact that you have seen food lines around the block, 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:00.440 three million people this close to homelessness, or one in 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:06.960 three family struggling to pay for a school uniform. Is 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:12.840 that this government has spent more money advertising itself and 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:16.440 its political programs than it has given extra funds to 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:21.160 things like food bank or the charities which you may 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.600 well see the ads on television or here on the 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:27.560 radio where they want you to sponsor a child here 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:31.760 in Australia. Now, I think those charity efforts are spectacular. 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:36.960 I do not understand how this government that has billions 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:40.240 of dollars for the promises that they want to make 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:45.800 to win votes can't find millions of dollars to help 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:51.760 the charity sector in Australia. In fact, they have spent 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.040 two hundred and fifty one How's that a quarter of 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.640 a b four billion dollars since they became the government 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:02.559 on government advertising. Government advertising that, of course way back 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:06.520 when was disgraceful, but now it's their turn. They're spending 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:10.360 against other people's money, this time on hoping that you 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.800 will fall for their garbage. The federal government spent two 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.320 hundred and fifty one million dollars on ads last year, 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:21.640 recording the Financial Review, fueling criticism from integrity advocates about 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:25.000 vote buying as advertising industry players predict a surge and 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.200 taxpayer funded campaigns. 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:27.800 Before the election. 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.440 Figures from the Department of Finance show that ADS spending 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:35.880 left forty percent last financial year as the Albanezi government 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.560 outlaid millions of dollars to publicize things like too little, 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:43.000 too late tax cuts, medicare, urgent clere clinics, despite the 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.920 fact that the amount of people bolt billing is going down, 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.320 and free tathe courses that are a great idea, but 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:55.160 we are producing fewer apprentices than we were under the 0:11:55.160 --> 0:12:01.640 previous government. Now government is aboutorities. You cannot spend everything 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:02.360 on every. 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:03.719 Good cause, but for goodness. 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.600 Sake, if you can spend a quarter of a billion 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:11.480 dollars selling yourself, you can take half of that money. Well, 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:13.480 I would suggest all of it, but still half of 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.760 that money and create a scenario where we do not 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:18.680 live in a country where one in three people can't 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.280 afford to pay for the school uniform of their kid. 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.319 The flow on effect of the confidence of that kid 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:29.360 is real. Now wonder our classrooms remain as disruptive as 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.400 they are, some of the worst in the OECD, and 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:33.839 our academic performance has gone back despite the fact of 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:37.920 hundreds of billions of dollars being spent in the education system. 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.760 If a kid is ashamed of the financial circumstances of 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.960 which they come, and their parents are doing any and 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:48.320 everything they can to stretch what few dollars they have 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:52.319 as far as possible, but they still are concerned about 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.520 where the meals come from, how the medicine gets paid for, 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:58.880 or how their kids wear a uniformed to school. Then 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:05.480 we are in the wrong place. Forty percent increase in 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:11.760 alban Ezy advertising about Albanesi, the government using other people's 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:15.439 money to flog itself in the hope that you somehow 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.560 will forget your own personal circumstances or the fact that 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.280 you are well and truly not better off than you 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:24.040 were three years ago, that this country has gone backwards. 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:25.079 Pick an indussy. 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:29.640 They're all there, all of them real that we have 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:33.120 gone backwards in the past three years. Yet these people, 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:35.280 who of course all get a pay rise, because every 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.880 politician gets a pay rise, every public servant gets a 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.800 pay rise. Many and most of the media will never 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.400 comment on this because of course government advertising needs to 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.800 be spent somewhere, and it means in many places in 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:46.120 the media. 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.360 So yeah, I'm going to needle a hand that feeds here. 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:53.840 But it is wrong that the Prime Minister from Housing Commission, 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.440 the bloke who claims to know what it's like to 0:13:56.440 --> 0:14:00.480 struggle but we know as well and truly gone from 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:05.559 that with his brand new private planes or the million 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:10.079 dollar holiday house or three pay rises, as I mentioned 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.079 in the first term of being Prime minister. 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:13.360 You know why I. 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:17.520 Say each Way Albow a lot on this show is 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:20.760 because he doesn't just take multiple positions on multiple issues. 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.600 Sometimes he is the exact opposite of what he was 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:29.720 in opposition. You see in opposition, this bloke was blowing 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.600 up when it was the Liberal Party trying to save 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:37.000 its ass by spending other people's money advertising its own 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:41.440 lack of achievements. In fact, we have the tape. 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:44.480 There was too much waste there and this has been 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.760 a wasteful government. They spent a billion dollars of your 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:51.560 money on taxpayer advertising promoting themselves. 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:56.440 Now he's talking about a billion dollars over the multiple 0:14:56.520 --> 0:15:00.320 terms of the Liberal Party. That number was too high 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.480 when those numbers were being criticized. I have long said 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.720 on this show, and it's Labor or Liberal, you can 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:08.560 check the tapes if you want to go all the 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:12.200 way back. I've said that taxpayer funded government advertising should 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:15.400 not be legally available to be spent in the calendar 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:19.800 year of an election because it will be abused as 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:24.080 it was last year. Forty percent up each Way Albo 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:29.360 is not just because the bloke is weak or indecisive 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.280 or wants to have it both ways. It's because he 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:37.040 told lies as an opposition leader and they are provable 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:42.720 now as the Prime minister. Which brings me to the 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.680 idea of like the old horror movie, I know what 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:47.720 you did last summer, Well, I know what they hid 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:53.720 this summer, the Prime minister, his finance minister and his treasurer. Well, 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.240 they're very quick to get out there and say that 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.600 they have changed the federal budget for the better, that 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:03.760 somehow they're good and sturdy economic management has reversed. Course, 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.960 of course, they never mention that they got kissed on 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:11.360 the proverbial by billions of dollars extra in revenue from 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.400 that evil mining sector. But he was Katie Gallaher spinning 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.520 that rubbish yesterday in Canberra. 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:22.200 We've delivered two surpluses, we've halved the deficits going forward. 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:26.000 We've found savings, we've returned money where we've had it 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.040 into the budget. We've lowered the debt. We've lowered the 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.560 interest rate on the or the interest bill on their 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:34.200 debt to the order of seventy billion dollars. 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.480 But people who are independent of government, people who are 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:40.600 not afraid of government, because they don't get money from government. 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.120 Have been looking at the books and they know where 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:47.120 this government has hid things over summer. And while they 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.480 try to change the conversation to the one that you 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.680 just heard from the Finance Minister, access economics via the 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:58.640 Australian Financial Review have shown that this government has been 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.680 spending a lot more than it claims to have saved, 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.280 in fact, sixty billion dollars more than they claim to 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:08.720 have saved. One of their stories had Charmers hidden spending 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:15.360 was eighty seven billion dollars. Eighty seven billion dollars, sixty 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.919 billion dollars more than they claim in that little bit 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:22.040 of video that I showed you to have saved the 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:26.640 business of Australia or the budget of Australia. Reading from 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.920 these articles, Labor's forecast to have spent a record eighty 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:31.840 seven point one billion dollars. 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.000 Where have they hidden it off budget? 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.800 You see if they use the word invest it all 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:39.879 works exactly the same as anything else they spend in 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:41.520 the budget. But they just don't have to put it 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:47.159 in the budget because magically the magic pudding can't be 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:50.800 seen on Budget night. It'll be done over the next 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:55.000 four years as politicians increasingly obscure spending on key priorities 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:58.400 such as climate and manufacturing by labeling the expenses as 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:03.280 in vestments. The Alternity Prime Minister is onto this little trick. 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.400 I just think when you look at the economic decisions 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:09.600 that have been made over the last two years, two 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.280 and a half years, the government's pulled every wrong lever 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:15.639 and part of the reason that Australians are suffering at 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:19.040 the moment is because of the budgetary decisions made by 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:20.720 Jim Chalmers and Anthony Albanesi. 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:24.520 But that word, get ready for it, investment, investment, investment. 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:26.760 We'll have to put together one of those things where 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:28.600 we show all the things that he said over all 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:29.720 of the years investment. 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:30.600 You see. 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:32.760 That way, they don't have to tell you about it, 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:37.040 especially in a budget if delivered before the election, that 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:39.360 will have all of this spending into the nevern ever, 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.800 but it'll be also off the books. All of course 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:46.920 we've borrowed money in part because we still have a trillion. 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:48.880 Dollars worth of debt. But nothing to see here. It's 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:50.520 all an investment, right, Albert. 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.640 This is an investment. This is an investment that will 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:55.600 produce a return. 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:59.200 And one thing is very clear to me over the weekend, 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.359 over summer as well, is that there are lots of 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.480 hardcore lefties who are massive Dutton haters, and there are 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:07.320 plenty of them in my life who are more than 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:09.080 happy to tell me how wrong I am on every 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:13.200 issue every time. But they are really nervous about what's 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.400 about to happen in this federal election that the great 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.080 Anthony Abernezi, who remember the Sidney Morning Hero, at one 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.560 point was writing about he was setting up for multiple 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.000 terms because the polls were good just after he became 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:27.400 the Prime Minister. Not writing that anymore, are they well. 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:30.760 The logic of course about why Dunn't won't get there 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:33.000 and Albow will be able to hold on is apparently 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:38.000 because voters that have always voted labor in out of 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:41.280 suburban Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane, they will continue. 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:44.240 To do so. Seats like Cabra matter. 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:46.680 Okay, if they end up going somewhere else, they're only 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:48.560 going to go to a Dielle and at the end 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:50.400 of the day she kind of has to back us in, right, 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:55.399 But the expectation is that people who have never voted 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:58.920 liberal will never vote liberal, and even if a few 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.240 of them do. Of course, the Labor Party and many 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:03.960 people in the media believe that the Teals will work 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:07.600 as some sort of a firewall against an insurgent Liberal 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:10.879 Party getting anywhere near that seventy six seats for a 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:14.080 majority government, or seventy seats to be able to have 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:17.120 a conversation with whatever Teals are left to be able 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:22.159 to potentially form a minority government. But then there's the 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:26.040 guy who has been right many times on big issues 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:29.680 that Australians end up agreeing with him on. Be it 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:31.760 the Voice where it was sixty forty yes instead it 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:35.760 ended up being sixty forty no, or many other policies 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:40.200 of this government where how do you oppose dumb ideas? 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.680 How do you not agree with us that climate change 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:47.960 must be fixed by tens of billions, in fact, almost 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:53.040 half a trillion according to the CSIRO amount of money. 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.560 This is the only way to be But Peter Dudden 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.680 has been right, and Peter Dudden has picked his fights, 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:03.600 and sometimes you may not be able to see the 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:05.600 forest from the trees sometimes about what some of these 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:07.320 fights are that hang on, why are we're talking about this? 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:08.439 What's going on? Well? 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:10.080 Guess what he ends up being proven right, and the 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:12.320 polls keep moving his way again. I say what I 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:17.240 always say, which is I don't think tonight that there's 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:19.000 going to be a change, But jeez, I hope there's 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:19.840 going to be a change. 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:20.600 I really do. 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:25.359 What Peter didn't of course, as you know, is going 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:29.320 in hard on the defense of a national Day for Australia. Now, 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:31.800 of course this is not a mysterious position about Australia 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:34.159 Day that he believes that councils should, if they're going 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:36.760 to do it at all, do a citizenship ceremony on 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:38.679 our national Day, not a couple of days before, not 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:42.159 a couple of days after. And as we know, the 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:45.199 polls where they are where the alternative prime minister is, 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:47.080 not where the current Prime Minister is. With this sort 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:50.440 of wiggle room situation, remember the IPA pole that came 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:55.040 out just yesterday showing that sixty eight percent of Australians 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.480 say it should stay on Australia Day. That's up from 0:21:57.480 --> 0:21:59.480 this time last year, the number who say we should 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:03.480 move the date down on this time last year. And 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:07.400 Peter Dudden is making the conversation about Australia Day different 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:09.280