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Speaker 2: So right now nine pm Canberra, Sydney and Melbourne time,
Speaker 2: just gone midday in Gaza and in Israel, and as
Speaker 2: Shari was saying, reporters are apparently being briefed as we
Speaker 2: speak in Doha, in Qatar where it is about to
Speaker 2: go one pm. In fact it's just gone one pm
Speaker 2: about a potential ceasefire to the situation that has been
Speaker 2: happening there of course since October the seventh. The early
Speaker 2: details that Sharry has brought exclusively to us tonight is
Speaker 2: that the exchange will be one thousand Palestinian prisoners thirty
Speaker 2: three hostages that are currently being held by Hamas in
Speaker 2: and around Gaza. The expectation is we'll learn more detailed
Speaker 2: this hour and of course for full coverage. Make sure
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Speaker 2: you for this show tonight. On top of all of that,
Speaker 2: there's an awful lot to get to, including the great
Speaker 2: Nigel Farage. I've got a lot of emails towards the
Speaker 2: end of last year say come on mate, you've got
Speaker 2: to talk longer to him. That's the plan in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five, even more, Nigel Farage. The only place you'll
Speaker 2: see him on Australium TV. The regular appearance is right
Speaker 2: here on Paul Murray Live. Well under the cops in
Speaker 2: Victoria who found a way to stick it to the
Speaker 2: Victorian acting premiere right in front of him and disrupted
Speaker 2: his press conference today. We'll explain why in a moment
Speaker 2: or two's time, and we know what they hid this summer.
Speaker 2: Despite what they say about the economy, surprise, surprise, the reality.
Speaker 1: Is going to be very different.
Speaker 2: And I'll get to some of those details that they
Speaker 2: don't want you to know before we are done tonight.
Speaker 1: We've got a big one ahead now.
Speaker 2: We know the Prime ministers in the world of pain
Speaker 2: and he thinks that somehow he's going to be able
Speaker 2: to spend his way out of trouble. The polls couldn't
Speaker 2: be clearer that even in the turnbul Times.
Speaker 1: The Guardian, over half of the people.
Speaker 2: Who answer their poll say that the country is on
Speaker 2: the wrong track and that the Prime Minister's disapproval is
Speaker 2: now in the territory where more people disapprove than approve. Meantime,
Speaker 2: Newspoll of course, has rated this Prime Minister as the
Speaker 2: weakest leader in a decade. There's a lot of chat
Speaker 2: about Whitlam. Well let's go back to Rudd, Gillard Rudd.
Speaker 2: He's right back to as bad as that government was
Speaker 2: and we all know how they copped it by going
Speaker 2: into minority in twenty ten and then blasted out of
Speaker 2: government in twenty and thirteen. So the Prime Minister has
Speaker 2: a plan and that plan, of course is to spend
Speaker 2: other people's money, otherwise known as of course your money.
Speaker 2: Another example of it today, third day in a row,
Speaker 2: major announcement, the excuse for a press conference. Of course,
Speaker 2: it's not just about the local announcement which local media
Speaker 2: will pick up on. It's about an opportunity to pretend
Speaker 2: that's a reason why the Prime Minister needs to be
Speaker 2: out and about when really he wants to talk about
Speaker 2: the national issues or just bash away at Peter Dutton.
Speaker 2: His announcement today was to spend five million dollars to
Speaker 2: help beautify the wonderful south coast town in New South Wales.
Speaker 1: Now why this.
Speaker 2: Is exactly the best use of federal taxpayers dollars.
Speaker 1: We'll all wait and see. But oh, that's right.
Speaker 2: It's in a marginal seat, a marginal seat that Labor
Speaker 2: could well lose because they only won it by about
Speaker 2: three hundred and seventy five votes last time, and that's
Speaker 2: when the tide was out on the Liberal Party. If
Speaker 2: presumably the tide is out on Labor, that Gilmour would
Speaker 2: be one of the first to four. We know that
Speaker 2: there was billions of dollars that were announced yesterday if
Speaker 2: you re elect this government to be spent on the
Speaker 2: in the Inn, and of course billions of dollars before that,
Speaker 2: he could have already spent on the Bruce Highway. But no, no, no,
Speaker 2: there's a promise that if you reelect him, finally I'll
Speaker 2: do what I haven't done for.
Speaker 1: The past three years.
Speaker 2: But I've got to say there's always something in each
Speaker 2: and every one of these announcements that just growns mcgear's
Speaker 2: a little because as necessary as some big promises of
Speaker 2: government are small amounts of money to just have an
Speaker 2: excuse to have a press conference is an example of
Speaker 2: money that I believe could be spent somewhere else. Because
Speaker 2: in the same way, that there is a fire, and
Speaker 2: I choose that metaphor intentionally. When a fire is burning,
Speaker 2: you need to put it out. You can then spend
Speaker 2: money to rebuild or to prevent against another fire. But
Speaker 2: when people are in the middle of stress, they need
Speaker 2: emergency support. There are three million people who are this
Speaker 2: close to homelessness. I talk about them every night because
Speaker 2: they are our Faro Australians, the Australians whom should be
Speaker 2: receiving maximum support from governments, but they are receiving maximum
Speaker 2: support right now from charities. The idea that we have
Speaker 2: food lines in twenty twenty five, a quarter of the
Speaker 2: way into the twenty first century, that are as bad
Speaker 2: as they have been in.
Speaker 1: This century is a disgrace.
Speaker 2: A disgrace to a government that claims to care about
Speaker 2: costs living, claims to care about poor people, but just
Speaker 2: assumes that somehow they will be able to scare them
Speaker 2: in devoting for them rather than helping them after the
Speaker 2: next election. And we also learned today about another group
Speaker 2: of people who are in a world of trouble, and
Speaker 2: it's the kids of the parents who are in financial trouble.
Speaker 2: This should be very close to the Leads story. Tonight
Speaker 2: because it's a statement about the failures of our country.
Speaker 2: One in three Australian parents are apparently struggling right now
Speaker 2: to pay the basic expenses of going to a public school. Now,
Speaker 2: that news website repeated a press release which came out
Speaker 2: from an organization called Act for Kids, and I'm going
Speaker 2: to read from that now. Research from the national child
Speaker 2: protection organization Act for Kids has revealed almost one three Australians,
Speaker 2: or thirty percent, are struggling to pay for their children's
Speaker 2: basic educational needs. This is things like uniforms, stationary books,
Speaker 2: excursions and school fees. We're not talking about the elaborate
Speaker 2: private school fees. We're talking about the basic things that
Speaker 2: should be provided, but for some reason you have to
Speaker 2: pay for to access a system that already you or
Speaker 2: other members of your family have paid.
Speaker 1: Taxes to pay for.
Speaker 2: The Active Kids survey of almost one thousand Australian parents
Speaker 2: also found that a quarter or more than a quarter
Speaker 2: twenty seven percent are finding it difficult to afford the
Speaker 2: Internet at home. Now, for all the conversation about billions
Speaker 2: of dollars extra for the NBN, no conversations about it
Speaker 2: being cheaper or virtually free for people who are in
Speaker 2: this group, no conversation about that whatsoever. Forty percent of
Speaker 2: so they're battling to pay for extracurlque, extra curricular You
Speaker 2: knew I'd fail that one activities important to their child's
Speaker 2: social and physical well being, sport, music. Now we have
Speaker 2: a Prime Minister who every single day is spending other
Speaker 2: people's money, often years down the track, never never fingers crossed,
Speaker 2: because the reality is that the budget is in structural
Speaker 2: deficit for the next forty years, meaning that this government
Speaker 2: has put us in a place where the federal government
Speaker 2: will spend more than it earns and it will get
Speaker 2: worse every year between now and twenty sixty. That's how
Speaker 2: bad the scenario is going to be. Now we know
Speaker 2: that by the years of twenty forty, twenty fifty and
Speaker 2: twenty sixty, the Australian population, which is currently just under
Speaker 2: thirty will go past thirty, past forty and maybe even
Speaker 2: on its way towards fifty, double the number of people
Speaker 2: that are here now fifty million people. Yet still the
Speaker 2: government promises to spend more than it earns. The only
Speaker 2: solution is to increase taxes, and already Australians pay too
Speaker 2: much tax. As I tod you last night, the single
Speaker 2: greatest source of revenue for this federal government is not
Speaker 2: the GST. It is not petrol taxes, it is not
Speaker 2: cigarette taxes, it is not even company tax. It is
Speaker 2: personal income tax. Yet still under all of that system,
Speaker 2: we are in a world of trouble. And we've got
Speaker 2: five million dollars to beautify parts of Narra again beautiful city.
Speaker 2: And I'm not going to argue with what obviously has
Speaker 2: been ticked off as a good idea, but we know
Speaker 2: why that money is being announced at a prime ministerial level,
Speaker 2: and it's because it's a seat that if he loses,
Speaker 2: he gets one seat closer towards what seems to be
Speaker 2: an inevitable minority government, or it could be the start
Speaker 2: of many dominoes to fall, meaning that the minority government
Speaker 2: may be formed by the current Prime minister, but by
Speaker 2: the alternative prime minister in Peter Dudden and the Liberal
Speaker 2: and National Party. But it is to me a disgrace
Speaker 2: that with all of the money that comes into government
Speaker 2: more than ever before, and all of the money that
Speaker 2: goes out, which is more than ever before, we have
Speaker 2: a scenario where one in three parents, and that means kids.
Speaker 2: One in three kids is living in a household that
Speaker 2: may not be able to pay for their school uniform.
Speaker 2: Think about how that process which puts pressure on the
Speaker 2: start of your life, affeits the next stage, the next stage,
Speaker 2: and the next stage of your life.
Speaker 1: The Act for kids. People were on with Chung Lei
Speaker 1: today here on Sky News.
Speaker 3: So if we think about the kinds of things that
Speaker 3: we need to put into place to make sure kids
Speaker 3: do a great job at school, then parents are really
Speaker 3: worried about providing them this year. When parents are really stressed,
Speaker 3: it passes on to kids who are already a little
Speaker 3: bit anxious about going to school.
Speaker 2: What I find despicable about Anthony Albernezi and his government's
Speaker 2: priorities is that this is a government that despite the
Speaker 2: fact that you have seen food lines around the block,
Speaker 2: three million people this close to homelessness, or one in
Speaker 2: three family struggling to pay for a school uniform. Is
Speaker 2: that this government has spent more money advertising itself and
Speaker 2: its political programs than it has given extra funds to
Speaker 2: things like food bank or the charities which you may
Speaker 2: well see the ads on television or here on the
Speaker 2: radio where they want you to sponsor a child here
Speaker 2: in Australia. Now, I think those charity efforts are spectacular.
Speaker 2: I do not understand how this government that has billions
Speaker 2: of dollars for the promises that they want to make
Speaker 2: to win votes can't find millions of dollars to help
Speaker 2: the charity sector in Australia. In fact, they have spent
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty one How's that a quarter of
Speaker 2: a b four billion dollars since they became the government
Speaker 2: on government advertising. Government advertising that, of course way back
Speaker 2: when was disgraceful, but now it's their turn. They're spending
Speaker 2: against other people's money, this time on hoping that you
Speaker 2: will fall for their garbage. The federal government spent two
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty one million dollars on ads last year,
Speaker 2: recording the Financial Review, fueling criticism from integrity advocates about
Speaker 2: vote buying as advertising industry players predict a surge and
Speaker 2: taxpayer funded campaigns.
Speaker 1: Before the election.
Speaker 2: Figures from the Department of Finance show that ADS spending
Speaker 2: left forty percent last financial year as the Albanezi government
Speaker 2: outlaid millions of dollars to publicize things like too little,
Speaker 2: too late tax cuts, medicare, urgent clere clinics, despite the
Speaker 2: fact that the amount of people bolt billing is going down,
Speaker 2: and free tathe courses that are a great idea, but
Speaker 2: we are producing fewer apprentices than we were under the
Speaker 2: previous government. Now government is aboutorities. You cannot spend everything
Speaker 2: on every.
Speaker 1: Good cause, but for goodness.
Speaker 2: Sake, if you can spend a quarter of a billion
Speaker 2: dollars selling yourself, you can take half of that money. Well,
Speaker 2: I would suggest all of it, but still half of
Speaker 2: that money and create a scenario where we do not
Speaker 2: live in a country where one in three people can't
Speaker 2: afford to pay for the school uniform of their kid.
Speaker 2: The flow on effect of the confidence of that kid
Speaker 2: is real. Now wonder our classrooms remain as disruptive as
Speaker 2: they are, some of the worst in the OECD, and
Speaker 2: our academic performance has gone back despite the fact of
Speaker 2: hundreds of billions of dollars being spent in the education system.
Speaker 2: If a kid is ashamed of the financial circumstances of
Speaker 2: which they come, and their parents are doing any and
Speaker 2: everything they can to stretch what few dollars they have
Speaker 2: as far as possible, but they still are concerned about
Speaker 2: where the meals come from, how the medicine gets paid for,
Speaker 2: or how their kids wear a uniformed to school. Then
Speaker 2: we are in the wrong place. Forty percent increase in
Speaker 2: alban Ezy advertising about Albanesi, the government using other people's
Speaker 2: money to flog itself in the hope that you somehow
Speaker 2: will forget your own personal circumstances or the fact that
Speaker 2: you are well and truly not better off than you
Speaker 2: were three years ago, that this country has gone backwards.
Speaker 1: Pick an indussy.
Speaker 2: They're all there, all of them real that we have
Speaker 2: gone backwards in the past three years. Yet these people,
Speaker 2: who of course all get a pay rise, because every
Speaker 2: politician gets a pay rise, every public servant gets a
Speaker 2: pay rise. Many and most of the media will never
Speaker 2: comment on this because of course government advertising needs to
Speaker 2: be spent somewhere, and it means in many places in
Speaker 2: the media.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm going to needle a hand that feeds here.
Speaker 2: But it is wrong that the Prime Minister from Housing Commission,
Speaker 2: the bloke who claims to know what it's like to
Speaker 2: struggle but we know as well and truly gone from
Speaker 2: that with his brand new private planes or the million
Speaker 2: dollar holiday house or three pay rises, as I mentioned
Speaker 2: in the first term of being Prime minister.
Speaker 1: You know why I.
Speaker 2: Say each Way Albow a lot on this show is
Speaker 2: because he doesn't just take multiple positions on multiple issues.
Speaker 2: Sometimes he is the exact opposite of what he was
Speaker 2: in opposition. You see in opposition, this bloke was blowing
Speaker 2: up when it was the Liberal Party trying to save
Speaker 2: its ass by spending other people's money advertising its own
Speaker 2: lack of achievements. In fact, we have the tape.
Speaker 4: There was too much waste there and this has been
Speaker 4: a wasteful government. They spent a billion dollars of your
Speaker 4: money on taxpayer advertising promoting themselves.
Speaker 2: Now he's talking about a billion dollars over the multiple
Speaker 2: terms of the Liberal Party. That number was too high
Speaker 2: when those numbers were being criticized. I have long said
Speaker 2: on this show, and it's Labor or Liberal, you can
Speaker 2: check the tapes if you want to go all the
Speaker 2: way back. I've said that taxpayer funded government advertising should
Speaker 2: not be legally available to be spent in the calendar
Speaker 2: year of an election because it will be abused as
Speaker 2: it was last year. Forty percent up each Way Albo
Speaker 2: is not just because the bloke is weak or indecisive
Speaker 2: or wants to have it both ways. It's because he
Speaker 2: told lies as an opposition leader and they are provable
Speaker 2: now as the Prime minister. Which brings me to the
Speaker 2: idea of like the old horror movie, I know what
Speaker 2: you did last summer, Well, I know what they hid
Speaker 2: this summer, the Prime minister, his finance minister and his treasurer. Well,
Speaker 2: they're very quick to get out there and say that
Speaker 2: they have changed the federal budget for the better, that
Speaker 2: somehow they're good and sturdy economic management has reversed. Course,
Speaker 2: of course, they never mention that they got kissed on
Speaker 2: the proverbial by billions of dollars extra in revenue from
Speaker 2: that evil mining sector. But he was Katie Gallaher spinning
Speaker 2: that rubbish yesterday in Canberra.
Speaker 5: We've delivered two surpluses, we've halved the deficits going forward.
Speaker 5: We've found savings, we've returned money where we've had it
Speaker 5: into the budget. We've lowered the debt. We've lowered the
Speaker 5: interest rate on the or the interest bill on their
Speaker 5: debt to the order of seventy billion dollars.
Speaker 2: But people who are independent of government, people who are
Speaker 2: not afraid of government, because they don't get money from government.
Speaker 2: Have been looking at the books and they know where
Speaker 2: this government has hid things over summer. And while they
Speaker 2: try to change the conversation to the one that you
Speaker 2: just heard from the Finance Minister, access economics via the
Speaker 2: Australian Financial Review have shown that this government has been
Speaker 2: spending a lot more than it claims to have saved,
Speaker 2: in fact, sixty billion dollars more than they claim to
Speaker 2: have saved. One of their stories had Charmers hidden spending
Speaker 2: was eighty seven billion dollars. Eighty seven billion dollars, sixty
Speaker 2: billion dollars more than they claim in that little bit
Speaker 2: of video that I showed you to have saved the
Speaker 2: business of Australia or the budget of Australia. Reading from
Speaker 2: these articles, Labor's forecast to have spent a record eighty
Speaker 2: seven point one billion dollars.
Speaker 1: Where have they hidden it off budget?
Speaker 2: You see if they use the word invest it all
Speaker 2: works exactly the same as anything else they spend in
Speaker 2: the budget. But they just don't have to put it
Speaker 2: in the budget because magically the magic pudding can't be
Speaker 2: seen on Budget night. It'll be done over the next
Speaker 2: four years as politicians increasingly obscure spending on key priorities
Speaker 2: such as climate and manufacturing by labeling the expenses as
Speaker 2: in vestments. The Alternity Prime Minister is onto this little trick.
Speaker 6: I just think when you look at the economic decisions
Speaker 6: that have been made over the last two years, two
Speaker 6: and a half years, the government's pulled every wrong lever
Speaker 6: and part of the reason that Australians are suffering at
Speaker 6: the moment is because of the budgetary decisions made by
Speaker 6: Jim Chalmers and Anthony Albanesi.
Speaker 2: But that word, get ready for it, investment, investment, investment.
Speaker 2: We'll have to put together one of those things where
Speaker 2: we show all the things that he said over all
Speaker 2: of the years investment.
Speaker 1: You see.
Speaker 2: That way, they don't have to tell you about it,
Speaker 2: especially in a budget if delivered before the election, that
Speaker 2: will have all of this spending into the nevern ever,
Speaker 2: but it'll be also off the books. All of course
Speaker 2: we've borrowed money in part because we still have a trillion.
Speaker 1: Dollars worth of debt. But nothing to see here. It's
Speaker 1: all an investment, right, Albert.
Speaker 4: This is an investment. This is an investment that will
Speaker 4: produce a return.
Speaker 2: And one thing is very clear to me over the weekend,
Speaker 2: over summer as well, is that there are lots of
Speaker 2: hardcore lefties who are massive Dutton haters, and there are
Speaker 2: plenty of them in my life who are more than
Speaker 2: happy to tell me how wrong I am on every
Speaker 2: issue every time. But they are really nervous about what's
Speaker 2: about to happen in this federal election that the great
Speaker 2: Anthony Abernezi, who remember the Sidney Morning Hero, at one
Speaker 2: point was writing about he was setting up for multiple
Speaker 2: terms because the polls were good just after he became
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister. Not writing that anymore, are they well.
Speaker 2: The logic of course about why Dunn't won't get there
Speaker 2: and Albow will be able to hold on is apparently
Speaker 2: because voters that have always voted labor in out of
Speaker 2: suburban Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane, they will continue.
Speaker 1: To do so. Seats like Cabra matter.
Speaker 2: Okay, if they end up going somewhere else, they're only
Speaker 2: going to go to a Dielle and at the end
Speaker 2: of the day she kind of has to back us in, right,
Speaker 2: But the expectation is that people who have never voted
Speaker 2: liberal will never vote liberal, and even if a few
Speaker 2: of them do. Of course, the Labor Party and many
Speaker 2: people in the media believe that the Teals will work
Speaker 2: as some sort of a firewall against an insurgent Liberal
Speaker 2: Party getting anywhere near that seventy six seats for a
Speaker 2: majority government, or seventy seats to be able to have
Speaker 2: a conversation with whatever Teals are left to be able
Speaker 2: to potentially form a minority government. But then there's the
Speaker 2: guy who has been right many times on big issues
Speaker 2: that Australians end up agreeing with him on. Be it
Speaker 2: the Voice where it was sixty forty yes instead it
Speaker 2: ended up being sixty forty no, or many other policies
Speaker 2: of this government where how do you oppose dumb ideas?
Speaker 2: How do you not agree with us that climate change
Speaker 2: must be fixed by tens of billions, in fact, almost
Speaker 2: half a trillion according to the CSIRO amount of money.
Speaker 2: This is the only way to be But Peter Dudden
Speaker 2: has been right, and Peter Dudden has picked his fights,
Speaker 2: and sometimes you may not be able to see the
Speaker 2: forest from the trees sometimes about what some of these
Speaker 2: fights are that hang on, why are we're talking about this?
Speaker 1: What's going on? Well?
Speaker 2: Guess what he ends up being proven right, and the
Speaker 2: polls keep moving his way again. I say what I
Speaker 2: always say, which is I don't think tonight that there's
Speaker 2: going to be a change, But jeez, I hope there's
Speaker 2: going to be a change.
Speaker 1: I really do.
Speaker 2: What Peter didn't of course, as you know, is going
Speaker 2: in hard on the defense of a national Day for Australia. Now,
Speaker 2: of course this is not a mysterious position about Australia
Speaker 2: Day that he believes that councils should, if they're going
Speaker 2: to do it at all, do a citizenship ceremony on
Speaker 2: our national Day, not a couple of days before, not
Speaker 2: a couple of days after. And as we know, the
Speaker 2: polls where they are where the alternative prime minister is,
Speaker 2: not where the current Prime Minister is. With this sort
Speaker 2: of wiggle room situation, remember the IPA pole that came
Speaker 2: out just yesterday showing that sixty eight percent of Australians
Speaker 2: say it should stay on Australia Day. That's up from
Speaker 2: this time last year, the number who say we should
Speaker 2: move the date down on this time last year. And
Speaker 2: Peter Dudden is making the conversation about Australia Day different
Speaker 2: than the one that we have had for the past
Speaker 2: eighteen years, because normally, between January one and January twenty sixth,
Speaker 2: the stories that we read and hear about are from
Speaker 2: the people who want to change the date. Very rarely
Speaker 2: does the normal debate begin with the people who want
Speaker 2: to keep the date. Now, I think the politics around
Speaker 2: this is really smart, firstly because it's where the extreme
Speaker 2: majority of Australians are, but secondly, it's also an understanding
Speaker 2: of people's modern recognition of Australia Day, which in the
Speaker 2: past twenty years has been a place where hundreds of
Speaker 2: thousands of people have chosen that day to become citizens
Speaker 2: of this country. And again, when we go back to
Speaker 2: that referendum vote of a couple of years ago, those
Speaker 2: very electorates that have never voted liberal in their lives
Speaker 2: were some of the hardest that voted no because they
Speaker 2: don't subscribe to what has become the modern activist left
Speaker 2: view of Australian Day in the past ten years. So
Speaker 2: Peter Dudden is doubling down.
Speaker 6: There are millions of Australians who have made the migrant
Speaker 6: journey to our country. They have enriched this country and
Speaker 6: for many of them, Australia Day is Sacrisanc because they
Speaker 6: were sworn in, they became citizens on that day of.
Speaker 1: The twenty sixth January.
Speaker 6: And we have an incredible Indigenous history which we should celebrate.
Speaker 6: We have an incredible migrant story and we should celebrate
Speaker 6: that as well.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent correct.
Speaker 2: But you see the Prime Minister also thinks that if
Speaker 2: it's not the Teals, and it's not the people that
Speaker 2: have never voted Liberal, the people that will most save
Speaker 2: him and his government, either in a majority or the
Speaker 2: most likely minority, and certainly reject any sort of political
Speaker 2: advancement of Peter Dutton. Many of the people who are
Speaker 2: paid to talk all the time about Australian politics, and
Speaker 2: those are the people who work, of course, in Parliament
Speaker 2: House in Canberra, in the media, in the press gallery.
Speaker 2: Now there are a few exceptions here and there of
Speaker 2: people who really do try to call it down the line,
Speaker 2: but we know the reality is that there are many
Speaker 2: people in the media who like the new arrangements of
Speaker 2: who they still believe to be a new prime minister
Speaker 2: with a new cast smell, And how dare we go
Speaker 2: back to those evil, terrible Liberals. Despite the fact that
Speaker 2: picking indacy Australia is worse off than it was three
Speaker 2: years ago, no question. A perfect example about how the
Speaker 2: media is going to use its power to pick the
Speaker 2: elbow benefit of the doubt way as opposed to what
Speaker 2: the politics and the smart politics of where Peter Dunton
Speaker 2: is playing. Would be an example like what we played
Speaker 2: you on the show last night. A question asked of
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister about Australia Day. Pretty clear right, So
Speaker 2: you guys.
Speaker 1: Have any other women's today around.
Speaker 6: Thus you view with any white house should.
Speaker 1: Hold on data clear right.
Speaker 2: But as we showed you last night, I'm again it'll
Speaker 2: show you and apologies for how long this is going
Speaker 2: to be, but you need to watch.
Speaker 1: Trump used to have his pivot.
Speaker 2: Well, the Prime Minister has the bad Beauty Queen answer
Speaker 2: where you just make it about something else.
Speaker 4: My counsel holds him on Australia Day. And on Australia Day,
Speaker 4: I'll be here in Canberra at the National Event. I
Speaker 4: encourage Peter Dutton to come to the National Event. I
Speaker 4: always did when I was Opposition leader. It's a great
Speaker 4: event on the foreshores of Lake Burley. Griffin here and
Speaker 4: I think it's appropriate that the Prime Minister and the
Speaker 4: leader of the Opposition both be there. I ensured I
Speaker 4: was there every year that I was Leader of the Opposition,
Speaker 4: as well as every year as Prime Minister. And I'd
Speaker 4: also encourage mister Dutton to attend the Australia Day Awards.
Speaker 4: It's a celebration of the best of Australia, the Volunteer
Speaker 4: of the Year, the Young Australian of the Year, the
Speaker 4: Senior Australian of the Year, and the Australian of the Year.
Speaker 4: It's fantastic that that occurs. The first year I wasn't
Speaker 4: invited as leader of the Opposition, I requested an invite
Speaker 4: and I've been there every year since and I hope
Speaker 4: that there's a bipartisan show of support.
Speaker 1: Then did I answer the question? No?
Speaker 2: You just blathered you didn't answer the question instead, rather
Speaker 2: than the yes no scenario, which is exactly where normal
Speaker 2: people are. Oh, I couldn't possibly offend the Q and
Speaker 2: A crowd. I wouldn't want to annoy the people on
Speaker 2: Radio National. So how did the media interpret what you
Speaker 2: just saw? Well, in the Sydney Morning Here all they
Speaker 2: said that the Prime Minister was kind of playing four
Speaker 2: D chess here because he dodged the stoush. The non
Speaker 2: answer mean he didn't have to get involved in the debate.
Speaker 2: The ABC Prime Minister refuses to bite as Dunton seeks
Speaker 2: fight on Australia Day events.
Speaker 1: No, Peter Dunn't has a clear view. Is it the
Speaker 1: same debate that we been having Uphill.
Speaker 2: And dan Dale until it bores us all about Australia
Speaker 2: Day that normally is defined by the lydear thorpes of
Speaker 2: this world is being reclaimed by the almost seventy percent
Speaker 2: of Australians who say no, no as is. I get
Speaker 2: what our history is, but it's a day that's about
Speaker 2: recognizing our achievement and looking forward to the future. So
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister may think that the people have never
Speaker 2: voted Liberal will save him, or the teals will save him,
Speaker 2: or the media will save him. What are the latest
Speaker 2: polls tell us about what Australians in any and all
Speaker 2: parts of the country think of this bloke's leadership. The
Speaker 2: Prime Minister since the first poll after the last election
Speaker 2: has thirty nine percent of people who approve in his
Speaker 2: job performance. That's down twenty points. Fifty percent now disapprove. Again,
Speaker 2: that's in the sorry not the sitting on a herald
Speaker 2: in the essential poll in the Guardian, which is interesting
Speaker 2: to note because there is a social researcher who we
Speaker 2: probably would disagree on everything politically, but I quite like
Speaker 2: this social researcher. And she's been a guest on the
Speaker 2: show way back when, but still Rebecca Huntley. And she
Speaker 2: was writing in the Guardian today, the same place that
Speaker 2: had that poll showing about a twenty point swing or
Speaker 2: almost forty point swing in the performance.
Speaker 1: Of Anthony Alberanesi.
Speaker 2: And she wrote about Peter Dutton and the speech that
Speaker 2: he gave a couple of days ago, the one that
Speaker 2: in part focused on Australia Day focused on education.
Speaker 1: Not in doctrination.
Speaker 2: And she wrote this that Peter Dutton's greatest hits might
Speaker 2: get him elected, but he's not a min from the
Speaker 2: bad democracy trap. Now she gets to an accidental interesting
Speaker 2: point in a second, but of course we have to
Speaker 2: go through this first, because it's The Guardian. If Dunton
Speaker 2: wins or manages to form a minority government, it will
Speaker 2: not be because of enthusiasm for his compilation playlist of
Speaker 2: all two formiitted policies, well, because of excitement about nuclear energy.
Speaker 2: It will be proof positive that we are stuck in
Speaker 2: in what a professor told her is a bad democracy trap.
Speaker 2: This is where low voter trust in politicians, skepticism about
Speaker 2: effectiveness of institutions in holding politicians to account, and a
Speaker 2: preference for a default or familiar policies with short term
Speaker 2: benefits is the better option.
Speaker 1: But also noted in here, and why I call all
Speaker 1: of this out is that despite the.
Speaker 2: Fact that most of the press gallery thinks that this
Speaker 2: bloke's just too crazy, he's sort of Orange Man bad,
Speaker 2: the reality is that many of his policy proposals, apart
Speaker 2: from being where people are and what the majority of
Speaker 2: Australians think and what the majority of Australians support, they
Speaker 2: also are important statements of priorities. Back to how I
Speaker 2: started this conversation, that this government, when it chooses to
Speaker 2: spend a dollar, would spend a quarter of billion dollars
Speaker 2: on promoting itself rather than extra money for the charities
Speaker 2: that are taking care of the people who, among other things,
Speaker 2: can't afford food, medicine, or a school uniform for their kid.
Speaker 2: This government made a decision to reduce the amount of
Speaker 2: taxpayer funded telehealth sessions that you would be able to
Speaker 2: have with a mental health professional to be able to
Speaker 2: cope with the world as it is or whatever is
Speaker 2: going on inside you, because mental health is as real
Speaker 2: as a broken arm. There was this one line in
Speaker 2: the speech from Peter Dutton that might be why the
Speaker 2: lefties are shaking, and we will.
Speaker 6: Restore the number of Medicare subsidized psychological.
Speaker 1: Sessions from ten to twenty and on a permanent basis.
Speaker 2: Interesting now, no one will make their decision about which
Speaker 2: way they are going to vote of what is said
Speaker 2: today or what the political headlines are shaped this week.
Speaker 2: But when they do see a choice, when somebody who
Speaker 2: shares their values or sees that while it's not a
Speaker 2: glamorous thing to promise more help with your mental health,
Speaker 2: more help for a charity, more help for the people
Speaker 2: who are truly suffering in Australia might be a connection
Speaker 2: point that could result in people perhaps voting Liberal or
Speaker 2: National for the first time. As Rebecca concludes today in
Speaker 2: her piece in The turnbul Times, restoring the number of
Speaker 2: Medicare subsidized psychological sessions from ten to twenty on a
Speaker 2: permanent basis would be one important move towards addressing the
Speaker 2: mental health crisis, And there are a few moments in
Speaker 2: the speech when Dutton nails the central problem we face
Speaker 2: that governments shouldn't play a critical role in addressing. Our
Speaker 2: society is less cohesive, he says, for many Australians, aspiring
Speaker 2: has been replaced by anxiety. Optimism has turned into pessimism,
Speaker 2: and national confidence has changed into dispiritedness. Yet, how does
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister want you to view the speech if
Speaker 2: you're either in the media or consuming the.
Speaker 4: Media like this, And yesterday Peter Dutton had an opportunity
Speaker 4: to announce a new policy, any policy ado. I mean,
Speaker 4: there was a big build up last week.
Speaker 1: And nothing. It was like a balloon with a pin
Speaker 1: in it.
Speaker 4: Nothing just air floated out and produced nothing at the
Speaker 4: end except a bit of rubber on the ground.
Speaker 2: I think people who've got issues with their mental health
Speaker 2: would not consider this to be an deflated balloon with
Speaker 2: a bit of rubber on the ground.
Speaker 1: Prime Minister.
Speaker 2: But before we leave the greatest Prime Minister of all time,
Speaker 2: one more little each way elbow moment for you. This
Speaker 2: one to do with the tennis. And we know the
Speaker 2: Prime Minister loves the tennis, because of course he had
Speaker 2: those ice creams and loving every little moment of the
Speaker 2: first chance to be there as the Prime minister, where
Speaker 2: of course he spent more days at the tennis than
Speaker 2: he even spent traveling to Alice Springs the days before
Speaker 2: he went to the tennis. Remember that back at the
Speaker 2: start of twenty twenty three, a start of what was
Speaker 2: going to be the beginning of the undoing of the
Speaker 2: facade of this prime minister. And we also know that
Speaker 2: things can change because when he first went to the tennis,
Speaker 2: they cheered him, and then last year at the tennis
Speaker 2: they booed him.
Speaker 1: I'd like to.
Speaker 2: Welcome the Australian Prime Minister, the Honorable Anthony Albanesi, the
Speaker 2: Deputy Victorian Premier then Ben Carol.
Speaker 1: What are they say? Boo ens, boo ns is what
Speaker 1: they are saying.
Speaker 2: And we know that this Prime Minister was playing politics
Speaker 2: in Perth, raising money and playing tennis, of course, when
Speaker 2: he should have been showing much greater action and heading
Speaker 2: to the site of that synagogue fire, which he eventually
Speaker 2: got to a few days later, but only after, of
Speaker 2: course he'd been drag kicking and screaming, and after the
Speaker 2: alternative Prime Minister in Peter Duddin had actually turned up.
Speaker 1: But that's not my each Way album, it's dead.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: The each Way elbow on this particular one is to
Speaker 2: do with the champion tennis player Novak Djokovic. And we
Speaker 2: all know that Novak didn't like the COVID vaccine, chose
Speaker 2: not to take the COVID vaccine, yet still came to
Speaker 2: Australia to play in the twenty and twenty three, sorry
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty two Australian Open, but of course he
Speaker 2: was never able to get there. Why because, of course
Speaker 2: he was put into detention and then eventually deported from
Speaker 2: the country. Now, amazingly, the Prime Minister has had something
Speaker 2: to say about something that really is not top of
Speaker 2: mind for most people, certainly the people that are struggling
Speaker 2: with either their mental health or trying to pay for
Speaker 2: a school uniform for their kids.
Speaker 1: But no, this was the priority, and.
Speaker 2: The Prime Minister had the balls to say this about
Speaker 2: an issue that I know he was on a slightly
Speaker 2: different side of when it came to compassion and Novak
Speaker 2: Djokovic being booted out of the country for not being vaxed.
Speaker 1: I found it.
Speaker 4: Astonishing that in the lead up to Christmas, Novak Djokovic
Speaker 4: was denied by the then federal government the opportunity to
Speaker 4: see his Orthodox minister priest during that period.
Speaker 7: I think that.
Speaker 4: Was something that I think was hard to justify.
Speaker 2: So sorry, maximum compassion and particularly about people of faith
Speaker 2: and people of faith, whether that's connected to whether they
Speaker 2: did or didn't make decisions way back when. I know
Speaker 2: it's still fresh in many people's mind. But this is
Speaker 2: weird because guess what, Anthony Albernezi didn't just support the
Speaker 2: fact that he was booted out of the country, but
Speaker 2: believe he never should have been in the country.
Speaker 1: To start with.
Speaker 2: So I'm not entirely sure how he's able to pull
Speaker 2: out of his backside compassion for this bloke, apart from
Speaker 2: the fact that the politics has changed, because this is
Speaker 2: what he said when all of this was playing out
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two. I think quite clearly, mister Djokovic.
Speaker 2: In fact, I've got that for you.
Speaker 1: Let's play it.
Speaker 4: I think quite clearly mister Djokovic is given his statements
Speaker 4: of anti VAXA rhetoric, given the campaign that he ran
Speaker 4: very explicitly for all to see, it was clear what.
Speaker 1: His position was too.
Speaker 4: Granted that visa and why was it granted if the
Speaker 4: information that every other person is required to give wasn't received.
Speaker 1: Each way? Albo many ways. It makes sense and we'll
Speaker 1: do it many more time.
Speaker 2: I have no doubt between now and when you get
Speaker 2: to the chance to vote for the first time or
Speaker 2: again for a change of government, because it is frightening.
Speaker 2: Many are lefty all right after the break, prienty to
Speaker 2: talk about, including of course I want to get to
Speaker 2: Annalyis Nielsen, who's been doing some amazing reporting from the
Speaker 2: fires in Los Angeles. And don't forget Nigel Farach the
Speaker 2: only place you're going to see him right here on
Speaker 2: Palmurray Life.
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Speaker 2: skynews dot com dot au Now Nigel Farage up in
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes. Lots to talk about with him
Speaker 2: in the United Kingdom, including this disgrace in and around
Speaker 2: the rape gangs, the cover ups, and also a massive
Speaker 2: surge of the which is happening when it comes to reform.
Speaker 2: They are surging and may well end up being the
Speaker 2: opposition sooner rather than later. And the great Man Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: We are just one week away from when he becomes
Speaker 2: president again, and there will be a great day that
Speaker 2: is his inauguration, and it will somehow involve that truck,
Speaker 2: the garbage truck.
Speaker 1: I'll explain more in a moment, but.
Speaker 2: First, as always, strength and love to people in Los
Speaker 2: Angeles and in and around those parts of California that
Speaker 2: are suffering as a result of the fires, ones that
Speaker 2: have taken now more than twenty five lives and tens
Speaker 2: of thousands of people who have lost their homes. Now
Speaker 2: as we speak, it's the middle of the night in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. A reporter and a Lisa Nielsen spoke with
Speaker 2: Peter Quedlin a bit earlier this evening about what was
Speaker 2: playing out because the winds are starting to pick up again.
Speaker 8: The official wind warning coming back in they're expected to
Speaker 8: pick up and go right through to a Wednesday local time.
Speaker 8: So that's the real risk is that any fires could
Speaker 8: pick up in a very dramatic fashion.
Speaker 1: Now she's done some great reporting. I'll show an example
Speaker 1: of that in a second.
Speaker 2: But the news which is coming out of Los Angeles
Speaker 2: right now here in Australia and around the world is
Speaker 2: that many of the insurance companies that are going to
Speaker 2: have to be picking up the bill here well, they
Speaker 2: are global, meaning that in order to pay for the
Speaker 2: two hundred billion dollars worth of damage that has taken
Speaker 2: place in the United States, there is a massive chance
Speaker 2: that that is going to be handed on to us
Speaker 2: here in Australia, and it will do so via higher premiums.
Speaker 2: But there's also some ugliness in and around the politics here,
Speaker 2: and a little bit later we'll talk to Meegan Kelly
Speaker 2: about some of the lefty nonsense that has been part
Speaker 2: of what California is doing. But the reality is of
Speaker 2: whether people vote for you or they don't, when there's
Speaker 2: a natural disaster, you have to take care of them.
Speaker 2: But there are plenty of people that are in the
Speaker 2: Senate saying that California is not allowed to have the
Speaker 2: same money that other people have had during natural disasters
Speaker 2: because they're too woke.
Speaker 9: Unless they show that they're going to change their ways
Speaker 9: and get back to building downs and storing water, doing
Speaker 9: the maintenance with the brush and the trees and everything
Speaker 9: that everybody else does in the country, and they refuse
Speaker 9: to do it, they don't deserve anything, to be honest
Speaker 9: with you, and the last they show us they're going
Speaker 9: to make some changes.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm would say that about Florida when it was
Speaker 2: going through a hurricane or tornadoes all the rest of it.
Speaker 2: This shouldn't be the case when it comes to California.
Speaker 2: And I am no dripping lefty and no know who
Speaker 2: likes Gavin Newsom, and as I told you, he should.
Speaker 1: Of course get the punt.
Speaker 2: There are lots of ways you can try to help
Speaker 2: people from AFAR, including food banks. There are links that
Speaker 2: will put up on the screen now, but I'll make
Speaker 2: sure that they go up on the Facebook page. And
Speaker 2: most importantly the Red Cross. What they are doing in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles is of course the work of taking care
Speaker 2: of people who have lost the houses.
Speaker 1: This is not for the celebrities, it's for people like this.
Speaker 10: Well, it was one hundred mile an hour firestorm wind
Speaker 10: and nobody knows our clothes up was to losing my
Speaker 10: life the God because I lived up there by myself
Speaker 10: after my mother passed.
Speaker 1: And still in the United States.
Speaker 2: Just one week left of the rule of Joe Biden
Speaker 2: as the leader of the free world.
Speaker 1: Hallelujah.
Speaker 2: We'll have a full team, including among others, Chris Kenny,
Speaker 2: that will be in the United States for the inauguration
Speaker 2: of the forty seventh President of the United States.
Speaker 1: Will get to all of that.
Speaker 2: But it does mean, of course, that Biden goes no
Speaker 2: more stumbling up the stairs, no more rubbish like he
Speaker 2: would have won or she would have won when she didn't.
Speaker 1: You regret your decision to run for re election.
Speaker 2: Do you think that that made it easier for your
Speaker 2: predecessor now become very successful.
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 6: I think I would have beaten Trump, could have beaten Trump,
Speaker 6: and I think that Karmena could have beaten Trump.
Speaker 1: Would have been Trump no more calling half the country garbage.
Speaker 1: The only garbage I now there is his supporters.
Speaker 2: And of course that wonderful moment where Donald Trump was
Speaker 2: able to make the most of that nonsense remembered by
Speaker 2: jumping into the garbage truck to say we ain't garbage.
Speaker 2: Wonderful way of middle finger.
Speaker 1: Bugger you, Biden.
Speaker 2: Well, guess what at the inauguration next week. At the
Speaker 2: inauguration and the parade next week, the dump Trump's going
Speaker 2: to be there, and the events and the parties in
Speaker 2: and around all of it, the village people are going
Speaker 2: to be there, which means dancing like this baby.
Speaker 10: It's my understanding. It's understand.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2: One week to go Niger Farras next on Pulmurray Live.
Speaker 2: Niger Farras is the leader of the Reform Party in
Speaker 2: the UK. It's a pleasure to talk to a mention
Speaker 2: in every week and we've got all your emails and
Speaker 2: I agree with you. Let's have more time with him.
Speaker 1: So let's do it. Great man, Happy New Year and
Speaker 1: all the best.
Speaker 2: I know you've been powering through as everything's been happening
Speaker 2: in the UK, including this disgrace that the best part
Speaker 2: of you know, a few years ago, people know that
Speaker 2: any and everyone in power looked the other way because
Speaker 2: the people who were abusing girls were put simply Islamic,
Speaker 2: and they didn't want to they want to create racial
Speaker 2: tensions and all the rest of it. And it meant
Speaker 2: that a lot of people who should have been prosecuted,
Speaker 2: and systems that should have known way earlier than they did, well,
Speaker 2: it all went by the wayside. Importantly, all of this
Speaker 2: is back because the chief prosecutor at the time was
Speaker 2: none other than the current Prime Minister ki Is Starmer.
Speaker 2: Yet this bloke, for some reason is refusing to have
Speaker 2: an inquiry into his own failings.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I mean, look, the whole thing is shocking. We've learned
Speaker 7: that up to fifty towns in the country were involved.
Speaker 7: And these are and I don't want to show audience,
Speaker 7: but these are gang rapes on a massive scale, committed
Speaker 7: by men from the Pakistani community. That is the absolute
Speaker 7: blunt and brutal truth of this. I believe actually much
Speaker 7: of the motivation behind it was actually racist. They hated
Speaker 7: white people. They viewed young white girls as being trash. Honestly,
Speaker 7: it's quite difficult to read some of the statements from
Speaker 7: the court reports of those handful that have been given justice.
Speaker 7: There are thousands and thousands of men out there that
Speaker 7: committed these barbarities that have not been followed up. Nearly
Speaker 7: every single one of these atrocities happened in labor run councils.
Speaker 7: It is quite impossible that local elected politicians did not know.
Speaker 7: They turned a blind eye, The police turned a blind eye,
Speaker 7: Social services turned a blind eye, and they all did it,
Speaker 7: as you say, for fear of being called racist. Now
Speaker 7: seventy six percent of the country, in the light of
Speaker 7: these recent revelations brilliantly exposed by young journalists at GBNWS,
Speaker 7: seventy six percent want a full national inquiry into this
Speaker 7: and it happened immediately, and the Prime Minister is refusing
Speaker 7: to give it. Well, I'll tell you what, Paul, if
Speaker 7: the PM won't give us a national inquiry, I will
Speaker 7: do it. I will fund it myself. This is going
Speaker 7: to happen.
Speaker 1: Excellent.
Speaker 2: I mean, look that there was more effort put into
Speaker 2: the sort of dissection of party Gate than there has
Speaker 2: been into this situation, and we all know what the
Speaker 2: consequences were of that. Now this bloke cannot you know,
Speaker 2: essentially rise to the prime minister ship in part by saying,
Speaker 2: look how tough I was, I was a prosecutor. But
Speaker 2: the reality is now he's in a position to go
Speaker 2: even further than what he claims was his best efforts.
Speaker 1: Yet why will he not have the inquiry?
Speaker 7: Well, what do they have to hide? I mean a
Speaker 7: couple of points on this. Of course, he was from
Speaker 7: two thousand and eight the director of the Prosecution Department,
Speaker 7: and we do know in two thousand and eight one
Speaker 7: of these cases went to him that he decided not
Speaker 7: to prosecute. Now he might argue that he wires up laser.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 7: But equally, the number of local labor politicians, you know,
Speaker 7: counselors around the country that have been convicted of pedophilia
Speaker 7: basically over the course of the last couple of years
Speaker 7: is really very very alarming, and it looks increasingly like
Speaker 7: the party has got something to hide, and that's a
Speaker 7: really bad look for the governing party of our country
Speaker 7: with a large majority in parliament, you know, in every way,
Speaker 7: whether it's this appalling scandal, whether it's what's happening to
Speaker 7: our economy. We're six months in to this government and
Speaker 7: frankly they're in free fall. It is extraordinary, is what
Speaker 7: is happening there.
Speaker 2: And the fact that what a couple of million people
Speaker 2: had already said that it was time for a new
Speaker 2: prime minister, let alone, let alone again.
Speaker 1: The financial stuff.
Speaker 2: That was all apparently too far when they came to
Speaker 2: Liz Truss and her chancellor. Many of it is worse
Speaker 2: under this bloke and his chancellor. So we'll wait, watch
Speaker 2: and see when it comes to there. I've got a
Speaker 2: bit of breaking news that if you don't want to respond.
Speaker 1: I understand.
Speaker 2: But we're learning now that there could well be very
Speaker 2: close to a deal that he is going to get
Speaker 2: some hostages out of Gaza. We're learning via officials in Qatar.
Speaker 2: They're not willing to announce it now, but apparently representatives
Speaker 2: of hostages families are going to be meeting with the
Speaker 2: Prime Minister of Israel in the next few hours.
Speaker 1: Some of the numbers that are.
Speaker 2: Being discussed here is thirty three hostages in exchange for
Speaker 2: one thousand prisoners. Some other detail that's coming from the
Speaker 2: United States says that all of this doesn't happen until
Speaker 2: January the twenty second, which of course would be two
Speaker 2: days into the Trump presidency. Do you think that we're
Speaker 2: going to learn more in the next twenty four hours
Speaker 2: that get us closer to what a lot of people want.
Speaker 7: Well, I hope and pray so I've been campaigning very
Speaker 7: openly for Emily Damari, who is the one British hostage
Speaker 7: being held. We haven't heard sight and the sound of
Speaker 7: it for best part of a year, so I very
Speaker 7: much hope she's past of that deal. Look, anything, anything
Speaker 7: that can get these hostages out would be a good thing.
Speaker 7: Maybe who knows, maybe Joe Biden will leave the presidency
Speaker 7: having done at least one good thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean to me, it's this thing where if
Speaker 2: it happens tomorrow or it happens in the next few days,
Speaker 2: who cares on what data and whose presidency?
Speaker 1: All of that is all right.
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, Nigel, Thank you mate, look
Speaker 2: forward to talking to you again in Catcher again. Plenty
Speaker 2: more of him and the only place to see him
Speaker 2: here is on Sky News on Paul Murray Live each
Speaker 2: and every Tuesday night. Now a little more to all
Speaker 2: of this in my thanks to Sherry Markson, who is
Speaker 2: feeding me directly the information that is coming here that
Speaker 2: the Katari Prime Minister has apparently said that they are
Speaker 2: the closest they've been in months to two a deal.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 2: Her information and her reporting is that we will see
Speaker 2: something in the next couple of hours out of Israel
Speaker 2: about a meeting with some of those hostage families, the
Speaker 2: families of the hostages and the Prime Minister Benjamin Netanya,
Speaker 2: who you'll of course see it all play out before
Speaker 2: your very eyes here at Sky News. Full details in
Speaker 2: the morning, and of course Sherry again tomorrow night see
Speaker 2: it