WEBVTT - Sharri | 9 October 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:05.399 Live from Israels is a special edition of Sharing. 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:10.560 Welcome to the show from the ancient city of Jerusalem. 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:15.120 Here in Israel, Benjaminette Yahoo is trying to kill the terrorists, 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:19.760 while back home, Albinizi is issuing visas to Palestinians with 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:24.560 links to her mus and Palestinian Islamic Jihat. This massive 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:27.680 story exploded in Question Time today. 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:32.400 Prime Minister has the visa for the individual been canceled? 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:40.560 Albanisi is putting Australians in danger through his reckless visa program. 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:44.360 He should visit Israel to look around at the devastation 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:47.239 terrorism can cause. Now I'm going to come back to 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:49.879 this topic in a moment tonight. I'm also going to 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:52.720 bring you the story of a newborn baby who was 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:57.080 only nine days old when her Musk stormed his home. 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:01.600 The terrorists set the house alight, but baby Kai's mum 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:03.880 saved him by putting him up. 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:04.800 On a window seal. 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:09.000 This is a story of a miracle survival, one of 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:13.120 the rare happy endings on that dark day. Joining me 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:16.400 here in Jerusalem on the show tonight, Colonel Richard Kemp, 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:20.959 who commanded British forces in Afghanistan and Iraq. This comes 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:24.840 as Israel weighs its response to the Iranian missile strikes, 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:29.119 while Biden once a cease fire a month out from 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:33.240 the US election. Also joining me here a mother whose 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:37.280 son was murdered at the Nova Music Festival. His dream 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:40.840 was to visit Australia and his mum has honored his 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:45.880 memory by making that trip. Plus Richo and Michael Kroger 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:49.280 will fire up about all the news back home, including 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.920 how a high profile restaurant owner has been arrested. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.720 No one will be dining at his restaurants anymore. 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:02.279 But first Benjainetta, who has declared that Israel has taken 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.640 out the leadership of Hesbelah in a video message to 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:09.880 the Lebanese people, Nettigna, who said he'd eliminated the leaders 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:10.880 of the terror group. 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.440 Israel has a right to defend itself. Israel also has 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:19.480 a right to win, and Israel will win. We've degraded 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:23.840 Kbela's capabilities. We took out thousands of terrorists, including Nsuelo 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:28.120 himself and Osuelo's replacement and the replacement of his replacement. 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:32.959 Today Kibela is weaker than it's been for many, many years. 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:38.600 As you heard there, Israel not only took out Hesbelah's 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:42.720 leader of thirty two years, Hassan Nasralla, but his successor, 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:47.639 Hasham Savidin. They also bombed the terror group's intelligence headquarters 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:51.560 in Beirut and three thousand fighters were injured. 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.160 When their pages exploded well. 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:57.600 In his video message last night, Netna who made an 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:01.960 appeal for peace, He implored to Lebanese people to take 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.799 back their country from Hezbela control. 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:08.760 Don't let these terrorists destroy your future anymore than they've 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:12.840 already done. Stand up and take your country back. You 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:17.840 have an opportunity that hasn't existed in decades, an opportunity 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.040 to take care of the future of your children and grandchildren. 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.919 You have an opportunity to save Lebanon before it falls 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.560 into the abyss of a long war that will lead 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:31.560 to destruction and suffering like we see in Gaza. It 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.200 doesn't have to be that way. Each of you can 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.960 take a step for your future, even a small step, 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.440 you can make a difference. I say to you, the 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:44.400 people of Lebanon, free your country from Krisbala so that 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:48.200 this war can end. Free your country from Hrisbala. Said 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:51.680 that your country could prosper again, so that future generations 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:55.640 of Lebanese and Israeli children will know neither war nor bloodshed, 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.280 but will finally live together in peace. 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:05.840 Israel has no quarrel with Lebanon, only with Hesbela and 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:11.440 its Bacha Iran. Israel's success in decimating the Hesbela leadership 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:15.680 and thousands of terrorists has been swift. It's one of 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:20.000 the incredible military feats of our time. First the pager 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.520 and walkie talkie attacks and then the most brilliant of all, 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:28.640 killing Nasrallah while he was watching Netanyahu deliver his United 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:32.320 Nations address. And it appears that israel strikes against the 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:37.359 Hesbela leadership may have achieved a significant breakthrough. The terror 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.479 group just last night said it was prepared to enter 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:41.520 cease fire talks. 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:43.640 This is an important development. 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:47.120 The US State Department said it showed Hesbela was and 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:51.240 I quote, getting bat it and now on the back foot. 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:56.480 So Israel's focus right now is shifting to Iran. There 0:04:56.520 --> 0:05:01.200 are live talks with America about striking Iran in retaliation 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:05.080 for the two hundred ballistic missiles it launched last week 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:09.039 against Israel. There's a push from some Israeli politicians to 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:14.360 go hard and to strike Iran's nuclear facilities. Israeli politicians 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:18.640 like Naftali Bennett and Sharen Haskell told me this needs 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:23.680 to be done before the evil regime develops nuclear weapons. 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:29.040 So Iran is laid open and now is the exact 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:32.280 time that we must attack. We must take out the 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.080 nuclear program or at least as severely damage it. 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:38.440 We need to target those nuclear reactors that Iran has 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:39.440 been building. 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:42.680 For years now. There's been many voices, including mine and 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.640 my party members to try. 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:53.240 And advocate for that, and Canadian Opposition leader Pierre Poliev agrees. 0:05:54.640 --> 0:06:03.320 I think the idea of allowing a genocidal, theocratic, unstable 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:08.480 dictatorship that is desperate to avoid being overthrown by its 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:12.880 own people to develop nuclear weapons is about the most 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:16.800 dangerous and irresponsible thing that the world could ever allow. 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:24.200 And if Israel were to stop that genocidal, theocratic, unstable 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:28.400 government from acquiring nuclear weapons, it would be a gift 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:33.760 by the Jewish state to humanity. 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:38.000 Well, he has an excellent point, and that's rare strength 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:41.880 from a Western leader, But there's an American election coming up, 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:43.960 and Joe Biden doesn't want to go to war with 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:48.279 Iran less than a month from polling day. Instead, he 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:53.960 reportedly wants a ceasefire. The relationship between Biden and Ettenyahoo 0:06:54.279 --> 0:07:00.520 has deteriorated in recent months. Biden telephoned Israeli President Isaaczog 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:04.320 and not Netan Yahoo on the anniversary of October seven, 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:08.719 and a new book by Watergate journalist Bob Woodward claims 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:13.920 that Biden yelled at Netanyahoo after he eliminated a Hesbela commander. 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:17.720 It also claims that Biden called the Israeli Prime Minister 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:22.760 a liar when Israel sent troops into Rafa. And Israel 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.040 was right to do that, by the way, because they 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:26.800 rescued hostages. 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:28.640 In Rafa in a daring mission. 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.440 But Biden has been more worried about American politics then 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.600 bringing home the hostages, even though some of them are 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:41.200 US citizens or fighting off terrorists. And in Australia, Albanesi 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:46.000 is even worse. While Israel is trying to defeat the terrorists, 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:50.800 it seems Albanzi is bringing people into Australia who have 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:55.400 links to Hermas. The Albanzi government gave a visa to 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:59.640 a Palestinian man who had hosted her Musk leadership, and 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:04.640 whose brothers and sons were active members of Palestinian Islamic jihat. 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:10.280 The Coalition hounded Albinizi over this outrageous decision in Question 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:11.280 Time Today. 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.680 In two thousand and nineteen, El Hassani reportedly hosted a 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:20.360 summit of terror organization leaders, which he opened by stating, 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:24.800 they must quote I quote confront the occupation by all 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:30.160 possible means. Prime Minister, has the visa of this individual 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:34.320 been canceled? Have any of the tourist visas granted to 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.040 those coming from the terrorist controlled gars of war Zone 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:42.240 since October seven, twenty twenty three been canceled? Prime Minister, 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:50.839 does supporting hamas pass the character test for an Australian visa? 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.520 You can hardly get a more serious issue. But the 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:57.400 Prime Minister didn't bother to answer. He just handed over 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:58.280 to Tony Burke. 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.520 The process for all of these visas for people who've 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.760 come from Palestine has been exactly the same for every 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.920 one of them. If at any point our security agencies 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.480 gave advice to the government that a visa should be canceled, 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:16.760 then the government, of course would take seriously that advice. 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.320 Security agencies never stopped collecting information. 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:25.040 The Prime Minister is now under pressure to cancel this visa, 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.880 but Tony Burke has already made it clear he wouldn't 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:31.839 send anyone back to Gaza. Well, perhaps these muppets should 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:35.280 have thought about this before they issued nearly three thousand 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:40.040 visas to Palestinians without proper security checks. 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:44.559 They're just not that bright in the Albanzi government. Well. 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:48.679 Being here in Israel during this war, visiting the sites 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:53.720 of bloody massacres, seeing the safe rooms riddled with bullet holes, 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:57.000 I tell you it makes me feel even more angry 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:00.320 that the Albanezi government has put us all at risk 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:05.839 by issuing these three thousand visas with inadequate vetting. This 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:11.200 is a government making dangerous and reckless decisions, decisions that 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:15.600 are disastrous for social cohesion. By deliberately bringing people to 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:19.920 our country who may hate Jews and Westerners, who may 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:24.840 support a genocidal, murderous regime. And if there are any 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:29.199 Hermas supporters among the Gohort they've brought to Australia. 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.160 Well this could endanger all of our lives. 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:38.400 Our children deserve better, Australia deserves better. 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:45.400 Now this next. 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:49.400 Story I'm about to bring you is one of courage, bravery, 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:50.480 and resilience. 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:53.000 It's how a mum saved. 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:57.280 Her newborn baby while terrorists were banging on the door. 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:58.040 Of her safe room. 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.120 Have a look. 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.959 We were around about six thirty in the morning. Sirens 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.040 started going off and Amy called me. I was in 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.880 another bedroom and she was sleeping in the safe room 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.680 and she called me to come, so I picked up 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:21.240 my phone. Funny enough, my little dog got scared and 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.440 he ran into the living room under the couch. I 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:26.640 ran to the room and I'm on the bed with 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:31.880 Amy and her husband, Duriel, and I'm laughing because I said, wow, look, 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.320 I'm in bed with my daughter and her husband. And 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.880 I was asking and Ariel said, don't worry, and ten 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:41.400 minutes we'll be having our early morning coffee. And he 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:45.160 just went on and on and on and at some stage, 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.640 I mean very close to then Amy decides to look 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.840 at her phone at the camera from the living room 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.800 and she said to me, they're trying to get in 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:58.360 the Hamas terrorists are trying to get in. 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.360 We felt the house shake when they were trying to 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:06.280 push in the door and break it down, but they couldn't. 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.040 So what they did, is that they just shot at 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.640 the lock of the door, and that's exactly the same 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:13.880 time that the electricity just went out. 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.640 We all went into to do what we had to do. 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:19.280 I took the baby. 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:23.560 And I put my finger in his mouth to soothe 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:25.960 him and to stop him crying. And he was only 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.360 being breastfed, so you know, there was a bottle or anything. 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:33.480 And Amy and Uriel instinctively, I don't know how new 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.600 to hold the handle of the of the safe door up. 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.440 They managed to put it just like price, it's just 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:41.319 a crack. 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:48.120 But if you can imagine you've got these monster fighters 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.120 on one side, and you've got. 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:51.840 This woman who's just had a babe. 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:56.000 That's what I can't believe that you had the strength 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:56.800 to win in. 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.880 That battle against the terrorists keeping the door shut. Yeah, 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:00.640 and of. 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.080 Course she had a difficult birth, so it wasn't an 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:06.040 easy birth. But one has to understand that Amy is 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:12.200 a black built in karate and club maga, and she 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:13.199 was a fighter in the. 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:18.680 Army and probably a mother's survival instinct for her child 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:19.800 and the adrenaline of. 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.400 The moment, yeah for sure, for sure. 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:32.960 Clap Kai clap, So they couldn't get into the safe room, 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:35.719 and instead they lit the house on fire. 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:40.240 And they just dragged the furniture to THEA heard them 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:43.720 do it. And then suddenly we see from the little 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:47.240 crowd and see flames, and my husband says, they're burning 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:47.720 the house. 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:51.680 And then I guess they ran out. 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:56.960 We were left to die. 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:04.640 Then, unfortunately, we heard my dog scream and until he died. 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.160 I don't know if it was two minutes or ten minutes, 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.440 however long it took for them my little dog to die. 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.520 You heard him burn to death in the I screamed. 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:18.680 He just screamed and screamed. And after that point, I 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:24.440 just wasn't there anymore. So for the next you have 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.480 to ask gaming because I was on the floor, face 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:31.680 sixsels this disassociated with. 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:33.479 Just so distressed. 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:38.280 I think I just prepared myself to die. That if 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:41.160 I'd have died, I wouldn't have felt the pain or 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:45.120 the burning or I don't know. It's what my therapist 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.920 is helping me deal with and come to terms with 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:52.000 and understand, because I still don't really understand it. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:15:00.800 I don't understand why I couldn't help them, why I. 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:05.160 Why I gave up that maybe if I hadn't a 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:06.760 given up, maybe I would have been the one to 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:09.840 jump out the window or freak out. So you don't 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:13.160 know if it was a good thing or a bad thing, 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.480 but I do know that I wasn't there to help them. 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:17.920 In fact, Amy, she's not only got to look after 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:19.760 a baby, but she's got to look after a. 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:23.880 Mom as well. And drag me to the window. 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:29.200 To breathe and so Amy, what advice did the fire 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.000 brigade give you when you spoke. 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:34.720 To them, Well, first of all, you wanted to know 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:39.040 what the situation was with the smoke. So what he 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:43.720 told me was, if we see the ceiling, we're still okay. 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:48.720 The smoke rises, So I mean, mainly it's to try 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:52.520 and block the door with anything that was by the 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.040 door most of the time because I was afraid that 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.440 they were going to try and come in again. Yeah, 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:00.560 so I just kept up so we're still holding. When 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.640 it got too hot, I just took like clothes and 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.560 held the handles and clothes and my husband held Kai 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:10.720 by the window. Eventually the firefighter said, look, you have 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:15.040 to get into fresh air if it's possible, cat a 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:19.160 little opening in the window and just putting up against 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.280 it and let him breathe. I mean, there was soot 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:26.240 coming out in his mouth and nose. Every time each 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.480 of us held him up to the window, we would 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.600 look out to see if there were any terrorists. And 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:36.800 then around two o'clock, maybe just before two o'clock in 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:41.000 the afternoon, there's me in at the window with Kai. 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:44.520 Too tired to hold him out, so I just lay 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:48.760 him on the window still. That's the famous picture of 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:49.920 him on the window still. 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:51.000 And then I. 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:54.680 See, oh, I first hear them, I hear Hebrew, and 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:58.000 then I look at and I see soldiers going through 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.760 house to house, and I just take a beef clothing 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:03.720 and I just wave it out the window. And I 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:06.760 didn't say, there they are. They're at the window, and 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.159 I just knew that they were looking for us. They 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:13.000 knew we were there, and they were there for us. 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.000 And that must have been the most incredible feeling. It 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.200 just made me be. 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.000 It gave me the ability to breathe. 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.080 You know, if you were holding your breath until that 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:29.159 one moment, and he knew that they were there for 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.200 you and they were going to see you. 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:36.919 So you saved Kay's life by letting him get that 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:38.120 air on the window. 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.800 Doing probably the one most dangerous thing we could have. 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:48.639 Got. 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:53.160 I got such an incredible story and it's so nice 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.920 that there's at least one positive story to come out 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:56.800 of October seven. 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:57.560 Well. 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.840 Colonel Richard Camp is a distinguished commander who led British 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:05.040 forces in Afghanistan and Iraq. He has in depth experience 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.600 dealing with the threat of terror and place to say. 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:09.840 He joins me here in Jerusalem. 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.800 Now, first of all, before we get onto Hesbla, I 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.600 want to ask you about the Palestinian visa issue. 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:17.440 I've been speaking about how. 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:21.000 The Albanesi government has issued nearly three thousand visas to 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.919 Gazans without adequate security vetting. 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:25.280 What do you think about this? 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:28.000 I think is absolutely shocking. The first duty of any 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:31.720 government is to protect its people, and clearly the Australian 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:34.679 government in this case is betraying its people. Who do 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:38.159 they think is going to get out of Gaza. It 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.280 takes a lot of money to get out of Gaza today, 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:42.480 and the people with money in Gaza are the people 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:45.640 connected to hamas, so you can guarantee I would suggest 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.640 that the majority of those people, possibly all of them, 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:52.280 are going to have hamas connections and probably Hamas sympathies, 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.040 and therefore they will potentially, at least some of them 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:58.120 will endanger citizens within Australia. 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:01.400 And even without that, I mean, we're seeing such extraordinary 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:04.960 levels of hatred, of violence, of anti Semitism. The idea 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:09.760 of importing the conflicts from here to peaceful Australia is shocking. 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:12.480 Exactly, and we're seeing that the world. Oh we're seeing 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:14.760 in Britain as well as in Australia and other countries 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:18.640 around the world, where people who have sympathy, they don't 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.639 care about democracy, they don't care about peace, they have 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:27.080 sympathy with terrorists, and they are intimidating Jewish populations because 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.479 of their affinity themselves with Israel. 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:32.840 Now I want to talk to you about the news overnight. 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:36.719 Basically Hezbla has been beaten into submission. It's now calling 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:41.240 for a cease fire without Israel moving away from Gaza, 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:43.280 which is a huge development. 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:47.560 Isn't it. It shows the immense damage that the Israelis 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:51.080 have done to his Blah, even just in the last 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:53.919 few days, but certainly over the last year. They've been 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:56.840 hitting his blog very hard. In southern Lebon and in particular, 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:59.760 but also in Beirut. Ever since his blow began its 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:03.360 war aggression against Israel on the eighth of October last year, 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.920 and they've effectively decapitated his Belot, They've taken out the 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.520 leader of his Bol ISRAELA, They've taken up many of 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:12.840 the other senior leaders. And I think in this case, 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:17.399 I've never seen such a widespread and effective campaign of 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.840 attack against leadership of an enemy force. I think Prime 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:24.840 Minister Netanyahu here is rewriting the book on targeted warfare. 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:27.160 Yeah, it's been utterly extraordinary. 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:30.520 There's now debate and it seems like disagreement between the 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:34.760 United States and Israel about exactly what the retaliation strikes 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:38.119 against Iran should look like. Do you think Israel should 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:42.560 be targeting the nuclear sites to stop Iran developing nuclear weapons. 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:45.600 Israel certainly should do that. Whether it's whether now is 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:49.720 the time or not is an open question, because, of course, 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:52.800 to do the maximum damage to Iran's nuclear program, it 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:55.879 does need military support from the US. It can do damage, 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:57.800 and I think it should try and do some damage. 0:20:57.880 --> 0:20:59.840 But there are other targets as well that can be hit, 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:03.320 and those include energy installations like oil and gas They 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:07.760 include military bases, military facilities and capabilities, and all of 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:11.320 these should be among the target raiser Israel choosers. Whatever 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:14.200 they decide to hit, they should hit them very very hard. 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:20.359 Last April, after Iran fired about three hundred plus missiles 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:24.040 and drones at Israel, Israel responded with a light touch. 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:28.119 It didn't have the right effect because they not at all. 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:30.159 So now they've got to deter and they've got to 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:32.520 hit them, in my view, very very hard. 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:36.160 Indeed, it doesn't seem to be the appetite from international leadership, 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:39.199 whether it's Joe Biden in the United States and his 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:44.199 VP Kamala Harris, whether it's in Britain, in France and Germany, Canada, Australia. 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:47.159 What's your comment on the international leadership we're seeing at 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:47.800 the moment in. 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:49.960 The face of this very real terror threat. 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:53.840 The leaders in these Western countries understand the threat, they 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:57.600 know that Israel's doing the right thing. They're just afraid 0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:01.280 of a country standing up for itself. They've forgotten how 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:03.560 a country needs to stand up for itself to survive. 0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:05.840 It hasn't been a problem for most of these countries 0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:09.280 so many years, and their priority now is to appease 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:13.399 the anti Israel mobs who are in the minority in 0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:16.480 our countries, but they're allowed and vocal minority, and they 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:19.000 want to appease them, and particularly so in the United 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:20.680 States where the election is coming up. 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:25.240 It's amazing how strong Benjamin Netti, who looks compared to 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:26.520 some of these other leaders. 0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:31.600 I haven't got the exact quote, but somebody in Australia 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:35.320 said yesterday, I believe that Netanya who is the Churchill 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:38.280 of our day, not the Chamberlain of our day, and 0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:40.920 I think that's absolutely right. He's an extremely strong leader. 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:45.879 He's been criticized and vilified around the world by other leaders, 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:49.840 including President Biden, but everything he's done has shown to 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:51.520 be right and proved to be right. And when you 0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:55.520 have his ballaar almost offering to have a ceasefire, when 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:58.359 you have, for example, I think President is Sad in 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:03.720 Syria has spoken about getting Iranian militias out of his country. 0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:06.880 You know, you have a very very nervous Iran now 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:09.639 which doesn't really know what to do. This shows that 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:14.639 Netanyahu's strategy is on the right foot. And you know, okay, 0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:17.399 Gaza has gone on for a long time now that 0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:19.040 war has gone a long time, but it's a very 0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:23.000 complex war. But Israel's been extremely successful in that war. 0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:25.679 I mean, a lot of international leaders are urging YETNYA 0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:28.240 who to wrap up the war, but the fact remains 0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:31.480 there are one hundred hostages still being held in Gaza, 0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:34.800 so Israel needs to bring those hostages home before it 0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:36.399 can pack up and go home. 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:39.160 Israel must do everything it can. But I believe it's 0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:42.560 been doing everything it can to both defeat Hamas and 0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:45.600 bring the hostages back, and it must continue that campaign. 0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:49.440 There's obviously a friction between those two objectives, but they 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:53.159 are potentially both achievable and as far as his Blas concerned, 0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:57.080 As far as Lebanon's concerned, we're hearing also from politicians 0:23:57.119 --> 0:24:00.800 in Lebanon huge dissatisfaction now with Iran actually with his 0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:03.840 blare and speaking out against it. Now is not the time, 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:06.919 in my view, to come to any ceasefign level, and 0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:09.320 now is the time to smash the hell out of 0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:13.000 his BLA as effectively and as violently as they can, 0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:15.160 because if you don't, if you have a ceasefire now 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:19.240