Speaker 1: On scorn Lids Australia. This is the Weader Panete Show.
Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the reader Panahe Show.
Speaker 3: I'm Caroline Drusso coming up on the show tonight. Democrats
Speaker 3: are gathering in droves, are ready to jump on the
Speaker 3: Kamala train.
Speaker 2: But what does she actually stand for?
Speaker 3: Douglas Murray joins me shortly to discuss just that the
Speaker 3: Victorian government is again in the firing line after their
Speaker 3: push to include trans women in an inquiry on women's pain.
Speaker 3: Rachel Wong from Women's Forum Australia on that, and of
Speaker 3: course a stellar edition of Left is losing it where
Speaker 3: the Trump arrangement syndrome, Well, it continues to flourish.
Speaker 4: We the people united mobilized and voted down this existential
Speaker 4: threat to democracy and freedom.
Speaker 5: That we continue the march progress, that we lay the
Speaker 5: foundation right better future, and that we sought to create.
Speaker 1: Home perfect union.
Speaker 5: Progress is possible.
Speaker 2: Flourishing, it really is.
Speaker 3: But first joining me now is Deputy Executive Director of
Speaker 3: the Institute of Public Affairs, Daniel Wild. Daniel, we know
Speaker 3: Labour's Future Made in Australia agenda is just its very
Speaker 3: latest boondoggle. Even the OECD suspects it will be a
Speaker 3: field day for lobbyists. We know that government's are notoriously
Speaker 3: bad at picking winners. Is the OECD on the money here.
Speaker 6: Well, Caroline, future made in Australia is really a future
Speaker 6: made in marginal labor seats, because this is what it's
Speaker 6: all about. As you know, it's about politics, not economics,
Speaker 6: and taxpayers are going to be fleeced for no meaningful
Speaker 6: outcome to our society. We can't have a future made
Speaker 6: in Australia under the policy of net zero. Net zero
Speaker 6: is responsible for skyrocketing energy prices, which is offshoring our manufacturing,
Speaker 6: offshowing our heavy industry. And we know that the number
Speaker 6: one winner from policies of netszuro is not Australia, it's China.
Speaker 6: China is the major manufacturer and exporter of wind turbines
Speaker 6: and solar panels. Australia doesn't get any value from the
Speaker 6: exports of that, and it's about China reorientating global economic
Speaker 6: supply chains around it.
Speaker 7: So this is a very short.
Speaker 6: Sighted, myopic policy that is clearly not in our national interests.
Speaker 3: No, it's not and still on dumb ideas or dumb
Speaker 3: labor ideas which hamper productivity. And Robert god Libsen had
Speaker 3: an excellent piece in The Australian on Labour's recent IR
Speaker 3: changes and the ability they give unions essentially to strangle productivity.
Speaker 2: Within family businesses.
Speaker 3: What is this reformant and what are the consequences likely
Speaker 3: for business?
Speaker 6: We've got leaps AND's hit the nail on the head
Speaker 6: and he's been discussing this important issue now for some time.
Speaker 6: And look, in essence, it would allow unfettered entry of
Speaker 6: unions and union delegates into small business work sites across Australia.
Speaker 6: It's on top of the effective outlawing of casual work,
Speaker 6: which is foundational to small businesses across the country. And
Speaker 6: I think it builds on this broader ideological agenda of
Speaker 6: Labor and the Left which is anti small business, is
Speaker 6: anti family business, which is the engine room of the economy.
Speaker 6: But it's also foundational to the Australian way of life.
Speaker 6: You know, small business is about hard work, independence, risk taking,
Speaker 6: reward for effort, all of those values that we should
Speaker 6: encourage in our society. And it further shows Caroline that
Speaker 6: Labor is really now the party of big business, because
Speaker 6: big business will be the main beneficiaries of these changes
Speaker 6: because it will have less competition from small business. So
Speaker 6: we know that small and family enterprises cannot absorb the
Speaker 6: costs of these industrial relation changes in the same way
Speaker 6: that big businesses can. And of course it comes on
Speaker 6: the back of the COVID lockdowns, which hammered small business,
Speaker 6: it helped big business, and so this is just another
Speaker 6: step in the wrong direction.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and small businesses can't have a full compliance department
Speaker 3: to deal with all these things, and that's where you
Speaker 3: see that competition evaporate, but still on the economy and
Speaker 3: concerns continue for both inflation and a potential for.
Speaker 2: The employment rate to surge.
Speaker 3: Inflation figures come down at the end of the month,
Speaker 3: but I feel like we're being softened up for a
Speaker 3: bit more bad economic news.
Speaker 6: Well, I think you're right, Carolina. Unfortunately, you know, six
Speaker 6: months ago we were talking about the next move of
Speaker 6: interest rates was more likely to be down than up.
Speaker 6: Now all the talk is it's going to be up
Speaker 6: and not down. And that's because of two key factors.
Speaker 6: One is out of control government spending at the federal
Speaker 6: and state level. Just look at Queensland one thousand dollars
Speaker 6: subsidies for energy bills. Well, that's going to get pumped
Speaker 6: back into the economy three hundred dollars from the federal government.
Speaker 6: We've also got this problem, Caroline, which is this mass migration,
Speaker 6: unplanned mass migration, which is pumping demand into the economy
Speaker 6: at the same time as our supply is going backwards.
Speaker 6: You know, productivity growth is going backwards in this country,
Speaker 6: so we're less able to generate wealth, we're less able
Speaker 6: to generate prosperity at the same time as we've had
Speaker 6: an unprecedented surge to mass migration, over a million net
Speaker 6: migrants over the last two years, by far, the biggest
Speaker 6: expansion in the history of our nation's population. So these
Speaker 6: are causing surging prices and inflation. It's why Australians are
Speaker 6: feeling all of the pain that they are at the checkout.
Speaker 3: And Daniel, is it a question of does this federal
Speaker 3: government have the tiker or not have the ticker to
Speaker 3: make the big decisions which need to be made.
Speaker 1: No, they don't.
Speaker 6: They've shown no inclination to deal with the big problems.
Speaker 7: Look on migration.
Speaker 6: I know the government's been saying they're going to be
Speaker 6: cutting numbers, but I believe it when I see it.
Speaker 6: They haven't really taken on these issues in any meaningful way,
Speaker 6: and that's because fundamentally, the only economic plan of this
Speaker 6: government is to grow the economy by growing the population. Now,
Speaker 6: of course, if you bring more people into a nation,
Speaker 6: the economy will get bigger. You've got a bigger market,
Speaker 6: more people spending money. But the slice of the pie
Speaker 6: that everybody gets is going backwards. You know, we've had
Speaker 6: five consecutive borders of negative per capita economic growth. So
Speaker 6: this mass migration policy is making Australians poorer.
Speaker 3: And the minute they reduce migration, that aggregate GDP figure
Speaker 3: will come down along with it. So you know, they
Speaker 3: say that's something they're going to do, but whether ultimately
Speaker 3: they want to see aggregate GDP come down or not
Speaker 3: is a totally different question. Now onto the self evident
Speaker 3: and labor, Energy and Resources ministers across the country are
Speaker 3: now trying to make the case for continued gas supply.
Speaker 3: The narrative until recently has been to totally demonize gas.
Speaker 3: But I suppose the reality is finally set in.
Speaker 1: Well, that's right, Caroline.
Speaker 6: I'd make one exception to that, which is I think
Speaker 6: Madeline King, in all fairness to federal Resources Minister has
Speaker 6: been saying from day dot of this government that we
Speaker 6: need more gas into the market because renewables can't get
Speaker 6: the job done. It shows that net zero does not work.
Speaker 6: It's further evidence of that. We've just seen tweaky forests
Speaker 6: give up on the government subsidized hydrogen. So it builds
Speaker 6: on a series of problems. Clearly, those clear thinkers like
Speaker 6: Madeline King have been rolled in cabinet by Chris Bowen
Speaker 6: and those from the left of the party, and it
Speaker 6: gets to this much bigger issue, which is the short
Speaker 6: sighted policy at the state and federal level. Of course,
Speaker 6: we need baseload power, we need coal and we need
Speaker 6: gas into the system. We need it in there quick.
Speaker 6: Prices are going up dramatically. We've had AEMO warning of
Speaker 6: blackouts this summer. I mean, can you believe it in
Speaker 6: a country like Australia, an abundance of coal, an abundance
Speaker 6: of gas and abundance of uranium, we're talking about load
Speaker 6: shedding and blackouts over summer. That just goes to the
Speaker 6: monumental policy failures that we've seen in this country over
Speaker 6: recent years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely right there, Bang on now, I've only
Speaker 3: got about a minute left for you. But protest is
Speaker 3: at Uwa's curtain. University have got their nickers in or
Speaker 3: not because the university has told them they can't use
Speaker 3: from the river to the siege chair during their protest.
Speaker 2: Daniel, how on earth will they ever survive?
Speaker 1: Well, that's right.
Speaker 6: I mean you're in Perth, Carolina and I think you know,
Speaker 6: WA has probably been a bit more sensible on this
Speaker 6: issue done on the Eastern seaboard, and I think, you know,
Speaker 6: good on the university for finally cracking down on this.
Speaker 6: I'm not holding my breath for anything from the University
Speaker 6: of Sydney or the University of Melbourne. Look, of course
Speaker 6: people have the right to voice their opinion and to protest.
Speaker 6: You don't have the right to blockade. You don't have
Speaker 6: the right to set up encampments. We know university students
Speaker 6: don't want to go to campus because they don't feel
Speaker 6: it's an environment where they can study and get ahead.
Speaker 6: And I just don't understand for the life of me,
Speaker 6: why are governments funding this. You know, all funding to
Speaker 6: universities that are allowing these kind of protests to take
Speaker 6: place should stop until these universally university vice chancellors finally
Speaker 6: get with the program and understand that university should be
Speaker 6: there for the pursuit of academic excellence, not this vis
Speaker 6: if Retrick from a handful of students.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, thank you for your insights.
Speaker 3: Daniel Wild joining me now, is the author of international
Speaker 3: best sellers, including The Strange Death of Europe, The Madness
Speaker 3: of Crowds. In his latest book, The War on the West,
Speaker 3: Douglas Murray, It's been a huge week in US politics,
Speaker 3: and just when I thought an assassination attempt on a
Speaker 3: former president would be the end of it, it turns
Speaker 3: out it was just the beginning of the wheels coming off. Obviously,
Speaker 3: Biden's resignation didn't just happen. Do we know what went
Speaker 3: on behind the scenes and what ticked him over?
Speaker 7: We very much know what happened behind the scenes.
Speaker 8: Now it's almost a month since Joe Biden had that
Speaker 8: catastrophic debate performance opposite Donald Trump, and many people thought
Speaker 8: that the whole idea of the Democrats agreeing the Democrat
Speaker 8: ticket agreeing to a debate so early, so far ahead
Speaker 8: of the election, might have been an effort by some
Speaker 8: of the Democrats to actually show world what they all secretly,
Speaker 8: turn out have known, which is that Joe Biden was
Speaker 8: far from firing on all cylinders these days. That fact
Speaker 8: that was known by readers of certainly conservative media seems
Speaker 8: to have come as a great shock to some of
Speaker 8: the Democrats and certainly a lot of their supporters. And
Speaker 8: so in the weeks since, there has been an effort,
Speaker 8: first of all privately and then increasingly publicly among senior
Speaker 8: Democrats to signal to Joe Biden, you know it's time
Speaker 8: to leave.
Speaker 7: It's very interesting.
Speaker 8: In the days before Sunday, there was a growing public
Speaker 8: set of statements by Democrats all sort of saying that
Speaker 8: Joe Biden wasn't fit to xyz it the minute that
Speaker 8: he released this strange statement on x formerly known as
Speaker 8: Twitter on Sunday, the moment he released that. Suddenly, now
Speaker 8: all the Democrats are saying, Joe Biden is the best
Speaker 8: of us, He's a true here, this is what leadership
Speaker 8: looks like, and so on. But yes, all the people
Speaker 8: who are currently praising Joe Biden were, of course the
Speaker 8: people who were busily pushing him out in recent days.
Speaker 8: It's Nancy Pelosis, Chuck Schumer and many others. The whole
Speaker 8: leadership of the Democrat Party realized that.
Speaker 7: They were running a.
Speaker 8: Candidate frankly totally unfit for the office. It was perfect
Speaker 8: clear he couldn't perform the task, He couldn't stay awake
Speaker 8: on television very easily.
Speaker 7: No way he was going to run the country for
Speaker 7: another four years.
Speaker 8: Although it does raise a question of exactly who's running
Speaker 8: it now, and the answer is, we don't know.
Speaker 2: And that's the point. I suppose.
Speaker 3: He may have dropped out as the nominee, but he's
Speaker 3: still actually the president. And that said, he's canceled a
Speaker 3: number of engagements this week and has extended his trip
Speaker 3: in Delaware.
Speaker 2: We also understand that despite confirmation.
Speaker 3: By his doctor, he only has mild COVID symptoms. What
Speaker 3: on it is going on here?
Speaker 8: Well, the COVID symptoms might be mild, but none of
Speaker 8: the other symptoms are, as I say, just increasingly obvious
Speaker 8: to people, and in the whole slew of news that
Speaker 8: came out in the last month, just perfectly obvious that
Speaker 8: this was not a candidate at eighty one. Some eighty
Speaker 8: one year olds might be sprightly, but Joe Biden isn't
Speaker 8: among them. I became perfect obvious he wasn't gonna be
Speaker 8: able to last for another four years. Of course, as
Speaker 8: you say, I mean, there's still half a year almost
Speaker 8: for him to go, for him to be running the
Speaker 8: most important country in the world. But there are so
Speaker 8: many questions now, and those people who think that this
Speaker 8: has been a sort of lovely, sort of crowning of
Speaker 8: Kamala Harris as his successor, I think there might be
Speaker 8: a bit more pain to come from within the party
Speaker 8: because not everyone in the Democrat hierarchy is absolutely sure
Speaker 8: that Kamala is their winner in November.
Speaker 3: No, but Kamala Harris has told a rally in Wisconsin
Speaker 3: that she is enough support to secure.
Speaker 2: The Democratic nomination.
Speaker 9: Here she is announcing it so Wisconsin, I am told
Speaker 9: as of this morning that we have earned the support
Speaker 9: of enough delegates to secure the Democratic nomini.
Speaker 3: But He's Representative Chuck Schumer, is rather awkward announcement, I
Speaker 3: think back in Kamala.
Speaker 10: So, now that the process is played out from the
Speaker 10: grassroots bottom up, we are here today to throw our
Speaker 10: support behind Vice President Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: I'm clapping.
Speaker 3: You don't have to Douglas the Democrats scene. I think
Speaker 3: more resigned to the fact that Kamala will be the
Speaker 3: nominee rather than excited about it, don't.
Speaker 8: You think, well, I mean, it's hard to see who
Speaker 8: could be excited about it simply on a polls level.
Speaker 8: You know, in the prospective polls of how people think
Speaker 8: they might vote in November, Donald Trump was already beating
Speaker 8: Joe Biden by two points in most polls. He's already
Speaker 8: beaten Kamala Harris by five points. So I don't know
Speaker 8: who would be especially excited about this. Kamilo is obviously
Speaker 8: very excited about it and is going to show her
Speaker 8: enthusiasm in that normal, usual and completely non fake way
Speaker 8: she has of expressing enthusiasm for things principally herself and
Speaker 8: her own words. But she might be an enthusiastic but
Speaker 8: it's hard to see.
Speaker 7: Who else is.
Speaker 8: I watched a speech of her that she gave last
Speaker 8: Thursday in North Carolina, and to say that the content
Speaker 8: of it was vapid is to enormously.
Speaker 7: Sort of praise her.
Speaker 8: Really, there's almost no banality that she cannot come out with,
Speaker 8: and what is her vision. It's a sort of sub
Speaker 8: Obama rhetoric with absolutely no detail added on to it,
Speaker 8: and it's not clear what she wants to do, other
Speaker 8: of course, than to go forwards in time rather than
Speaker 8: backwards in time, which is something she's especially passionate about.
Speaker 2: But Douglas, do the Dems actually have another choice?
Speaker 3: Is there actually another viable option at this point so
Speaker 3: late in the race, Well.
Speaker 8: It would have to be a really stunning household name.
Speaker 8: There are a couple that are being thrown around, but
Speaker 8: how likely they are to do anything?
Speaker 7: I don't know, you.
Speaker 8: Know, the enormous selfishness actually of Joe Biden and Jill
Speaker 8: Biden and the Biden family and keeping Biden pretending he
Speaker 8: was going to run until last Sunday. The selfishness of
Speaker 8: it actually is that if he'd have said, say a
Speaker 8: year ago, look, I've done my spell in office, I've
Speaker 8: done everything I can. I'm in the twilight of my
Speaker 8: years and it's time for next generation to come along,
Speaker 8: there could have been at least a year for Democrat
Speaker 8: candidates to put themselves forward, put forward their prospectives for leadership,
Speaker 8: have an open debate among themselves, and for the best
Speaker 8: man or woman to win. But because Joe Biden harm
Speaker 8: so with such clenched fingers onto the presidency. The fact
Speaker 8: that Jill Biden egged him on even when she must
Speaker 8: have seen did see that he couldn't even walk onto
Speaker 8: a stage without a detailed map of the terrain. It
Speaker 8: suggests that, actually, you know, these people who have been
Speaker 8: saying what patriots they are and so on, have really
Speaker 8: mucked things up for their own political side, their own
Speaker 8: political party.
Speaker 2: I don't think I could have put that better.
Speaker 3: But back to Kamala, and we have seen snippets of
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris over the course of the.
Speaker 2: Last three years.
Speaker 3: Very few of those snippets have been edifying Douglas. Here
Speaker 3: she is, as Senator upplauding the idea of defunding the police.
Speaker 9: Right now, what we're seeing in America is many cities
Speaker 9: spend over one third of their entire city budget on policing.
Speaker 9: But meanwhile, we've been defunding public schools for years in America.
Speaker 9: We've got to re examine what we're doing with American
Speaker 9: tax payer dollars.
Speaker 3: And here she is talking about eliminating private health insurance.
Speaker 11: You support the Medicare for All bill, I think initially
Speaker 11: co sponsored by Senator Bernie Sanders. You're also a cosponder ontt.
Speaker 11: I believe it will totally eliminate private insurance. So for
Speaker 11: people out there who like their insurance, they don't get
Speaker 11: to keep it.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, the.
Speaker 9: Idea is that everyone gets access to medical care and
Speaker 9: you don't have to go through the process of going
Speaker 9: through an insurance company, having them give you approval, going
Speaker 9: through the paperwork, all of the delay that may require.
Speaker 9: Who of us has not had that situation where you've
Speaker 9: got to wait for approval and the doctor says, well,
Speaker 9: I don't know if your insurance company is going to
Speaker 9: cover this.
Speaker 2: Let's eliminate all of that. Let's move on, and it
Speaker 2: doesn't stop there.
Speaker 3: She also agreed with the hard left representative AOCS push
Speaker 3: to eliminate cars in eleven years.
Speaker 12: Sixty minutes this weekend, proudly calling herself a radical and
Speaker 12: she's promoting policies like saying that every single carbon emission
Speaker 12: in the country, every car should be eliminated within the
Speaker 12: next eleven years, everything from a seventy to eighty percent
Speaker 12: tax rate. Do you agree that she could possibly, in
Speaker 12: this ideology of the socialist left, could splinter your party?
Speaker 9: No, you know, I think that she is challenging the
Speaker 9: status quo.
Speaker 2: I think that's fantastic, Douglas.
Speaker 3: You mentioned earlier the Obama talking points without the detail.
Speaker 3: Do we know what she actually believes in and whether
Speaker 3: and to what extent that would form part of any
Speaker 3: democratic policy platform.
Speaker 7: No, we have very little idea of what she believes in.
Speaker 8: Actually, because she Isia says things like that's why we
Speaker 8: need to have the conversation about that. That's one of
Speaker 8: her tricks. Whenever she gets into a corner way, she
Speaker 8: really doesn't know what to say. And the rest of it,
Speaker 8: as I said earlier, sort of banalities. This is somebody who,
Speaker 8: from the clips you just paid, seems to think that
Speaker 8: they can answer the problems of education in America, of
Speaker 8: healthcare in America, of crime in America.
Speaker 7: But there's absolutely no meat on the bone.
Speaker 8: I mean, the idea is in that first clip that
Speaker 8: it's an either or in regards to policing or schooling.
Speaker 8: It's not a lack of money that's the problem in
Speaker 8: American schooling. It's a lack of decent teaching and a
Speaker 8: lack of discipline in the schools. There are American students
Speaker 8: in even the poorer states who have more money per
Speaker 8: pupil paid by the state for the education than in
Speaker 8: most countries around the world, and yet they still have
Speaker 8: some of the worst literacy and numeracy rates. That's not
Speaker 8: a failing of funding, that's a failing of the teaching
Speaker 8: unions across America, among much else. Only Mama Harris can
Speaker 8: present these complex problems, pretend the solution to them is
Speaker 8: simply more money and promise to put more money everywhere,
Speaker 8: and make it not at all clear with exactly how
Speaker 8: that money would be of any use. As I say,
Speaker 8: it's all vapid and empty rhetoric, and it's very unclear
Speaker 8: what she actually believes.
Speaker 7: She just says what she needs to say to.
Speaker 8: Get through the next ten seconds of any interview or speech.
Speaker 3: Which is going to be a huge problem if she,
Speaker 3: god forbid, turns out to be the president. But there's
Speaker 3: also been plenty of chatter about who her vice presidential
Speaker 3: candidate may be. A few suitors have started turning up
Speaker 3: being very flattering about Kamala in the.
Speaker 2: Last couple of days. Where do you think this will learn?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 8: I mean, it's actually not clear to me that the
Speaker 8: most talented people in the party are going to put
Speaker 8: themselves forward. Does Kamala Harris, and you know, your name
Speaker 8: on a ticket seem at the moment to be a
Speaker 8: good prospect for you if you're a Democrat, an ambitious Democrat.
Speaker 7: I think probably not.
Speaker 8: I think quite a lot of the people that people
Speaker 8: assumed would get into the race actually won't if she
Speaker 8: is certainly the top of the ticket, because they would
Speaker 8: be the vice presidential running mate to a walking disaster.
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, we'll see, there's a long way
Speaker 8: to go. You know, in the next sort of almost
Speaker 8: four months, there will be I mean we've seen just
Speaker 8: the last week.
Speaker 7: You mentioned at the top of the show that just
Speaker 7: the last week has.
Speaker 8: Been unbelievable amount of things happening, from the attempted assassination
Speaker 8: of former President Trump to Joe Biden stepping out of
Speaker 8: the race on Twitter. So almost four months, absolutely anything
Speaker 8: can happen. But I just think that the Democrats are
Speaker 8: kidding themselves but no one else if they think that
Speaker 8: Kamala Harry is a strong candidate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a very very fair call.
Speaker 3: And back to where this week kind of started, obviously
Speaker 3: with that attempted assassination of Donald Trump Secret Service head
Speaker 3: Kimberly Chedtles She's finally stepped down overnight. This is, of course,
Speaker 3: following the Secret Services total failure to protect the former
Speaker 3: Donald Trump at that rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. They had
Speaker 3: one job and they absolutely botched it. Here is what
Speaker 3: Speaker Mike Johnson had to say.
Speaker 13: Our reaction, the immediate reaction to her resignation is that
Speaker 13: it is overdue. She should have done this at least
Speaker 13: a week ago. I'm happy to see that. I'm happy
Speaker 13: to see that she is heeded the call of both
Speaker 13: Republicans and Democrats. Now we have to pick up the pieces.
Speaker 1: We have to.
Speaker 13: Rebuild the American people's faith and trust in the Secret
Speaker 13: Services and agency.
Speaker 3: And it's no wonder she had to go, especially after
Speaker 3: that spectacle that was the questioning by the House Oversight
Speaker 3: meeting on Monday. Quite a sight to behold both Democrats
Speaker 3: and Republicans calling for her resignation.
Speaker 2: But I think this was probably my favorite exchange of
Speaker 2: the hearing.
Speaker 14: Would you agree that this is the most serious security
Speaker 14: lapse since President Reagan was shot in nineteen eighty one of.
Speaker 1: The Secret Service?
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I would.
Speaker 14: And you know, do you know what Stuart Knight did
Speaker 14: when he was in charge at the time of the
Speaker 14: Secret Service. Do you know what he did afterwards?
Speaker 2: He remained on duty.
Speaker 14: He resigned. He resigned. What's the difference between your position
Speaker 14: and what Stuart Knight did?
Speaker 15: What I will tell you, sir, is that I am
Speaker 15: dedicated to finding the answers to what happened, and like
Speaker 15: every Secret Service agent, we don't shirk from our responsibilities.
Speaker 2: I will remain on Douglas.
Speaker 3: The hubris that was on display at that hearing was
Speaker 3: absolutely extraordinary. Why on earth did it take so long
Speaker 3: for that reality to set in?
Speaker 16: Well?
Speaker 8: I watched that hearing and came away with a view
Speaker 8: that the now former head of the Secret Services clearly
Speaker 8: decided that her aim in the hearing was to say
Speaker 8: as little as possible whilst presenting herself as being as
Speaker 8: helpful as possible. She wouldn't answer even the most basic
Speaker 8: questions like when did you start preparing for this hearing?
Speaker 8: She said things like well, for the best of my recollection,
Speaker 8: or I can't recall, or there was no skin off
Speaker 8: her nose. If she'd have just said, you know, I
Speaker 8: started preparing the moment I heard, which was six days ago,
Speaker 8: or whatever, she seemed to be intent on not giving
Speaker 8: any details in case she could somehow be tripped up
Speaker 8: on them at some later date in the hearing or afterwards.
Speaker 8: And that was just a disastrous tactic. She had repeaterdly
Speaker 8: asked about timelines and it turned out she didn't have them.
Speaker 7: It really was an embarrassment. You know, she was a political.
Speaker 8: Appointee of Joe and Jill Biden, was of close to
Speaker 8: them and respected and liked by them when she was
Speaker 8: in charge of then Vice President Biden's security detail. She
Speaker 8: obviously was not the right person for this job. She
Speaker 8: certainly wasn't the right person to represent herself in front
Speaker 8: of a congressional hearing. And I think it's probably very
Speaker 8: good that she goes.
Speaker 7: She's gone.
Speaker 8: That said, there is an enormous amount that still needs
Speaker 8: to be found out and interrogated about exactly what did
Speaker 8: happen that day at the Trump rally, because there are
Speaker 8: so many security failings that we now know that have
Speaker 8: come out. And as I said last week, this is
Speaker 8: you know, the world was just too close, by a
Speaker 8: couple of millimeters from something utterly catastrophic happening.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and it's very fair that representatives on both sides
Speaker 3: they are want to know what happened, because obviously they
Speaker 3: are all in danger if the Secret Service isn't doing
Speaker 3: what it needs to be doing. Now, one last topic,
Speaker 3: and we know Benjamin Netna who is in the US
Speaker 3: to mate with the government in relation to the.
Speaker 2: Ongoing war in Gaza.
Speaker 3: It's been reported that Kamala Harris is going to boycott
Speaker 3: netnya who's dress.
Speaker 2: But that's not all.
Speaker 3: Apparently pro Palestinian protesters have invaded the Capitol building. If
Speaker 3: this wasn't so serious, Douglas, it would just be the
Speaker 3: most epic political satup.
Speaker 7: Well, yes, but.
Speaker 8: I mean it is very serious because I mean here
Speaker 8: we see a very important relationship for America and Israel
Speaker 8: being put under strain, not by these nincome poop protesters.
Speaker 8: I mean they should all just be arrested as anyone
Speaker 8: else would be if say they broke into the Capitol building.
Speaker 8: But the thing of putting strain on it is that
Speaker 8: decision by current Vice President Harris not preside over the session.
Speaker 8: I think she's speaking to a high school somewhere in
Speaker 8: Vermont something at the time.
Speaker 7: When she could be presiding that joint session.
Speaker 8: Clearly she is making this more of a political point
Speaker 8: than it needs to be. There has actually always been
Speaker 8: a great bipartisan agreement in the US on the importance
Speaker 8: of the American Israeli relationship. I'm sure the Prime Minister
Speaker 8: nathana Who will speak to that when he speaks.
Speaker 7: On Wednesday, and we'll see.
Speaker 8: But's it is a snub actually by Kamala Harris and
Speaker 8: a very bad sign Netania, who's also meant to be
Speaker 8: meeting Joe Biden to express his thanks for Joe Biden's
Speaker 8: support since October. But it's not even clear if that's
Speaker 8: going to happen, because it's not clear if Biden's well
Speaker 8: enough to meet him. It seems so that according to
Speaker 8: reports today, So we'll see. But you know, it should
Speaker 8: be an important time from America and Israel to re
Speaker 8: emphasize the strength of that relationship, and if it is
Speaker 8: politicized by come Harris and others, it'll be to the
Speaker 8: detriment of both countries and a lamentable situation which should
Speaker 8: never have arisen.
Speaker 2: No, and I think there's plenty more to come out
Speaker 2: in the wash there. Thank you so much, Douglas Murray.
Speaker 7: Great pleasure.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Still to come left is losing it, including those fawning
Speaker 3: over Marmala.
Speaker 2: Harris and Adam B.
Speaker 3: Coleman analyzes the left's attempt to rebrand laugh and Kamala.
Speaker 3: Now it's time for left is losing it and as
Speaker 3: we barrel towards a US presidential election, the Dallas turned
Speaker 3: up on the partisan crazy and it is coming from
Speaker 3: absolutely all directions. In the aftermath of former President Donald
Speaker 3: Trump being shot, this is what the president of the
Speaker 3: American Federation of Teachers had to say.
Speaker 17: It is seldom a dramatic event or attack that lets
Speaker 17: fash in the door.
Speaker 18: The violence comes later after they are voted.
Speaker 17: In voting, it's still our best defense against tyranny and fascism,
Speaker 17: and it's our best offense to create the better future
Speaker 17: we dream of, and march.
Speaker 18: For progress is possible, but not guaranteed. When the history
Speaker 18: books are written about this moment, let them record that
Speaker 18: we the.
Speaker 4: People united, mobilized and voted down.
Speaker 5: This existential threat to democracy and freedom, that we continue
Speaker 5: the march progress, that we lay the foundation for a
Speaker 5: better future, and that we sought to create a more
Speaker 5: perfect union progress.
Speaker 8: It is possible.
Speaker 19: Kick marching.
Speaker 3: Hardly softening political discourse in the aftermath of an attempted
Speaker 3: political assassination. And if that isn't an advertisement for homeschooling,
Speaker 3: then I'm not really sure what is now. Moving on
Speaker 3: to Kamala Harris, who many are saying will be the
Speaker 3: Democratic nominee.
Speaker 2: It's fascinating to see how.
Speaker 3: The lefty media has ditched Old Joe jumping headfirst onto
Speaker 3: the Kamala train.
Speaker 13: I'm jumping out of my feet over here watching the
Speaker 13: people have been thirsting for this, and.
Speaker 9: I'll just say this, you know, and I'm with Tim, Tim,
Speaker 9: I'm jumping out of my seat higher than you, my brother.
Speaker 7: I'm just gonna say that.
Speaker 19: It was a twinkle in her eye. There was a
Speaker 19: kick in her step that you know when you're a
Speaker 19: vice president. You know, I don't You're not looks you can't.
Speaker 19: You know there's somebody above you, there's somebody you don't
Speaker 19: want to overshadow them.
Speaker 10: You are.
Speaker 19: And this was quite the coming out. And I got
Speaker 19: chills when she said, don't try I know your tape.
Speaker 10: I was blown away.
Speaker 19: I was like, I kind of fell in love with her.
Speaker 19: I thought she was smart, engaging, She's funny, fasting, twikle
Speaker 19: in your eye, punch you in the gun.
Speaker 7: I mean everything.
Speaker 2: You what.
Speaker 19: I just thought it was a great, great opening act.
Speaker 1: She looked completely comfortable tonight with the words she was speaking.
Speaker 1: They felt organic and genuine.
Speaker 3: Are we even living on the same planet? And of
Speaker 3: course a switch in the Democratic nomination wouldn't be complete
Speaker 3: without some blame landing with the Republicans. Apparently it's a
Speaker 3: racist to suggest Harris is a dei.
Speaker 19: Higher Republicans have gone so far as to call her
Speaker 19: a dei.
Speaker 7: Hire was just clad out racist.
Speaker 3: This is a pretty unusual allegation given I thought it
Speaker 3: was one of the few accepted facts.
Speaker 2: On both sides of the aisle. After all, no one.
Speaker 3: Has accused Kamala Harris of being competent. But let's it
Speaker 3: dial up the crazy a bit further.
Speaker 2: Apparently mispronouncing her name is a hate crime.
Speaker 16: Heard from inside Republican circles and right wing media that
Speaker 16: the heat campaign against Kamala Harris has begun. You'll notice
Speaker 16: they purposefully pronounce her name wrong, they say Kamala. They
Speaker 16: do it all the time. It is on purpose. But
Speaker 16: the talk is to start that heat campaign and get
Speaker 16: it going and start it churning.
Speaker 3: And over recent days and hours, more people are coming
Speaker 3: out to endorse Kamala Harris, the Clintons, Nancy Pelosi. Then
Speaker 3: there is Meghan Markle, who reportedly wants to endorse Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris as well. Megan is so lacking in self awareness,
Speaker 3: so she doesn't realize that her endorsement is probably more
Speaker 3: like a kiss of death. Perhaps just send her some
Speaker 3: strawberry jam and stay mum. And while the Democrat political
Speaker 3: establishment is getting used to the idea of presidential nominee Harris,
Speaker 3: this blow thinks the presidential nominee should be trans.
Speaker 15: I think we need a transgender president.
Speaker 2: And here's why.
Speaker 15: There is no greater struggle than the English trans You're
Speaker 15: constantly hated, You're constantly people wanting to unalive you because
Speaker 15: just because of who you are. If we had transgender president,
Speaker 15: the world would be a much better place and maybe
Speaker 15: all our haters might actually leave the United States instead
Speaker 15: of staying here. We the people run this country, not
Speaker 15: our presidents, not our congressman, not our Senate. Our constitution
Speaker 15: says we the people. So maybe who's with me? We
Speaker 15: need a transgender president. I'm up for anybody else who's
Speaker 15: going to be a candidate.
Speaker 3: Who knew a presidential election a change and nominate, and
Speaker 3: an attempted assassination could produce so much insane material. Anyway,
Speaker 3: there you have it. Joining me now is wrong speak?
Speaker 3: Publishing founder Adam B. Coleman Adam Kamala Harris has gone
Speaker 3: hard to secure the Democratic nomination in the days after
Speaker 3: Joe Biden announced his withdrawal.
Speaker 2: What's the latest and does it look like she's got
Speaker 2: that all stitched up?
Speaker 20: It seems like it, But there's a lot that can
Speaker 20: happen up until when we make it to the convention.
Speaker 20: You know, there's quite a bit of a possibility that
Speaker 20: they might stroll elsewhere, but there's a lot of momentum
Speaker 20: behind Kamala Harris. That might be the direction that they
Speaker 20: go at the convention. It seems to make the most sense,
Speaker 20: especially from a campaign finance situation. So I would say
Speaker 20: it's more likely that she'll be the nominee, but you
Speaker 20: never know what happens when it comes to the convention.
Speaker 2: And plenty of other names have been floated.
Speaker 3: But some of those perspective nominads, do you think they're
Speaker 3: either eyeing off the vice presidential nomination or just waiting
Speaker 3: holding their breath until next time.
Speaker 20: Yeah, the names that constantly come up like Gavin Newsom
Speaker 20: and other notable names. I think there's a likely chance
Speaker 20: that they're going to wait till next time around. I
Speaker 20: think someone who is likely to win a presidential race,
Speaker 20: like in a full length I don't think they're going
Speaker 20: to want to risk coming in with four months essentially
Speaker 20: until the election comes around to run an entire campaign,
Speaker 20: raise money, so on and so forth. I think it's
Speaker 20: a huge risk for someone who does have presidential ambitions.
Speaker 20: So that's why even more so, I think it's leaning
Speaker 20: more towards Kamala Harris. Pamala was alongside Joe Biden. For
Speaker 20: many voters, they're going to see that Kamala Harris is
Speaker 20: an extension of Joe Biden, but obviously someone who is
Speaker 20: younger and more alive than Joe Biden is. So I
Speaker 20: think it's an easy transition for the Democratic Party to
Speaker 20: move in her direction.
Speaker 18: Now.
Speaker 3: The withdrawal of Biden has definitely changed the landscape of
Speaker 3: the presidential race, that's for sure. Donald Trump has accused
Speaker 3: the Democrats of fraud over the Biden swap. Is this
Speaker 3: an acknowledgment that Harris could potentially create some issues for Trump?
Speaker 20: It's possible, but I think Trump has a point. You know,
Speaker 20: they went through an entire primary process, and obviously, you know,
Speaker 20: anybody with two eyes who's paying attention can see that
Speaker 20: Joe Biden was falling apart, you know, cognitively and literally falling,
Speaker 20: and so when it comes to one particular debate, all
Speaker 20: of a sudden, they want to change course, negating all
Speaker 20: the Democratic voters who went out and chose Joe Biden
Speaker 20: as their nominee, and pressuring Joe Biden because there was
Speaker 20: a lot of pushback from the Biden and Biden campaign
Speaker 20: before he left. So in many ways, I've called this
Speaker 20: a democratic coup. You know, they wanted him out because
Speaker 20: the public got to see what he actually look like
Speaker 20: in prime time, and now they get to put in
Speaker 20: place the leader that they want, negating all the people
Speaker 20: who are part of the party, who were part of
Speaker 20: the process. So you know, whether it's Kamala Harris or
Speaker 20: they do some backroom deals to choose somebody else, it
Speaker 20: kind of gets rid of the whole democratic process involving
Speaker 20: the voters.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, Donald Trump, you know, when
Speaker 3: Biden withdrew, he must have known that this was coming.
Speaker 3: I mean, that Kamala Harris attack had that hit the
Speaker 3: news wave is really quickly.
Speaker 20: Oh yeah, I think everybody. Everybody suspected that something was
Speaker 20: going on. There were rumors about Joe Biden leaving office
Speaker 20: for about a week prior, and actually I was pretty
Speaker 20: skeptical about him actually leaving because there was so much
Speaker 20: pushback coming from Joe Biden. Every time there is speculation,
Speaker 20: there is another press release that he's staying in place
Speaker 20: and that he's on the campaign trail. So I think
Speaker 20: if you're a good campaign, you prepare for multiple outcomes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And the Democrats, I've been quick off the mark
Speaker 3: to frame Kamala as presidential. She took her nieceus for
Speaker 3: ice cream over the weekend and she's been referred to
Speaker 3: as Momala. How important is this repositioning of Kamala Harris
Speaker 3: in this campaign.
Speaker 20: Yeah, this is a massive pr campaign that's going on.
Speaker 20: There's a lot of excitement. Some of the excitement is
Speaker 20: just the juxtaposition of Joe Biden, who is very much
Speaker 20: so comatose like and here you have someone who is
Speaker 20: much younger, much more vibrant, smiles a lot, you know,
Speaker 20: just on the surface, seems like someone that you should
Speaker 20: be excited over. But Kamala has been hiding for quite
Speaker 20: some time and letting the PR team fill in the blanks.
Speaker 20: But that's the excitement of right now. We'll give it
Speaker 20: some weeks and when she actually starts speaking, if there's
Speaker 20: going to be a debate, which I would hope there's
Speaker 20: going to be a debate between her and Trump. If
Speaker 20: she's a nominee, we get to ask her tough questions.
Speaker 20: But in the meantime, she's going to do a bunch
Speaker 20: of fluff interviews by the mainstream media. She's not going
Speaker 20: to be challenged. She's going to be well prepped to
Speaker 20: show off her personality rather than her policies.
Speaker 2: And she might be well prepped.
Speaker 3: And obviously that talking point about her being younger that
Speaker 3: there has gone.
Speaker 2: All through the media very very quickly. But ultimately she's
Speaker 2: going to have to have a lot more than that.
Speaker 20: Oh yeah, absolutely, it's working right now. A lot of
Speaker 20: people are like, look how much money she raised in
Speaker 20: such a short period of time. Like I said, this
Speaker 20: is political excitement. It's going to happen. It's going to
Speaker 20: be like this, especially leading up to her nomination. So
Speaker 20: she's going to raise money However, there's going to be
Speaker 20: a point where it's going to slow down and people
Speaker 20: are going to ask questions, Okay, we're excited about you,
Speaker 20: but what do you have to offer us, even coming
Speaker 20: from Democratic voters, because remember they didn't choose her as
Speaker 20: the nominee, so she still has to win them over,
Speaker 20: and for some of them it's not enough to not
Speaker 20: be Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Correct, And I'm just interested to know in that campaign period,
Speaker 3: say that four months, say that she does get the
Speaker 3: Democratic nomination, when you think about the demographic that she's
Speaker 3: designed to appeal to, how markedly different is her campaign going.
Speaker 2: To be from what would otherwise have been a Biden
Speaker 2: led campaign.
Speaker 20: I think it's going to be different in a sense
Speaker 20: that she's going to appeal more to younger voters. You know,
Speaker 20: not too long ago, she was part of the BET
Speaker 20: Awards and a pre tape showing with Taraji p Henson
Speaker 20: that appeals to a particular demographic of people that Joe
Speaker 20: Biden doesn't necessarily appeal to. So, you know, by virtue
Speaker 20: of being younger and also by virtue of being a woman,
Speaker 20: she may appeal to a wide variety of people in
Speaker 20: a different way than Joe Biden was able to. But
Speaker 20: at the same time, this is going to come to
Speaker 20: a point where she's going to need to be challenged. She's,
Speaker 20: you know, this entire process because she's being picked. She
Speaker 20: hasn't been challenged. She hasn't had someone to ask her
Speaker 20: tough questions in quite some time, basically four years when
Speaker 20: she did the vice vice presidential debate. So in reality,
Speaker 20: in the past four years, she's been able to skirt
Speaker 20: any sort of criticism directly from the media or even
Speaker 20: addressing the public about something difficult.
Speaker 3: Now, lastly, and I've got a little under a minute
Speaker 3: for you, but I know you support the return of
Speaker 3: manufacturing to the US.
Speaker 2: It has been a powerhouse in the past.
Speaker 3: How does the outcome of a presidential election really impact
Speaker 3: the US's ability to return manufacturing back to home soil,
Speaker 3: I think greatly.
Speaker 20: You have one particular issue. You have China as the issue.
Speaker 20: Donald Trump is bullish on China. Unfortunately the Democrats aren't,
Speaker 20: and that's going to be a key issue when it
Speaker 20: comes to actually bringing back jobs here. The second is taxes.
Speaker 20: Donald Trump is willing to give tax tax bricks to businesses.
Speaker 20: The Democrats haven't been that tax friendly and so that's
Speaker 20: going to slow down the opportunities to bring back manufacturing
Speaker 20: over to the United States.
Speaker 2: Adam B. Coleman, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2: This evening still to come.
Speaker 3: Elo Masters's son is dead, killed by the work line
Speaker 3: virus and the Allen government gets it wrong on women again.
Speaker 3: Joining me now is CEO of Women's Forum Australia, Rachel Wong.
Speaker 2: Hi, Rachel Look.
Speaker 3: I spoke about this topic on Monday with Chris Kenny,
Speaker 3: but I still can't quite get over the fact that
Speaker 3: the Victorian government wants to include trans women in an
Speaker 3: inquiry on women's pain. I don't know about you, but
Speaker 3: I'm pretty miffed about the idea of biological men cosplaying
Speaker 3: about pain suffered by women and being indulged on an.
Speaker 2: Issue that's as serious as this. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 21: I gues's absolutely idiotic and expensive. I saw one woman
Speaker 21: comment that it's like saying that pain is basically a
Speaker 21: fashion accessory for men who want to be validated as women.
Speaker 21: I mean, including men in an inquiry into women's pain
Speaker 21: makes absolutely no sense. Women's and men's health conditions are
Speaker 21: completely different because of the way we're buy it. Logically, Wiet,
Speaker 21: I think that it's an absolute slappened the face to
Speaker 21: women whose health has been historically under research and undiagnosed.
Speaker 21: You know, we finally have this opportunity to really dig
Speaker 21: deep into what's happening with women's health conditions, and at
Speaker 21: this point the government just said, well, actually be it's
Speaker 21: going to conclude men in this as well. I mean,
Speaker 21: women are already you know, basically losing our own female
Speaker 21: only spaces, female only sports, female only services, and now
Speaker 21: apparently we're not even entitle to our own pain.
Speaker 3: But the thing is ras you're I mean, ultimately we
Speaker 3: need to know what the results are from this study
Speaker 3: to be able to improve health care for women. If
Speaker 3: you're not putting the right information in, you're not going
Speaker 3: to end up with the right results.
Speaker 21: One hundred percent. And that should be entirely of theous,
Speaker 21: especially to Premier Uson to Alan and Health Minister Mary
Speaker 21: and Thomas, who are both female, who know that women's
Speaker 21: health issues are very different to men's, and you know
Speaker 21: that these issues need to be researched, and if you're
Speaker 21: including men with completely different health issues, then obviously the
Speaker 21: inquiry is going to be tainted.
Speaker 3: And this is in the first time biological men have
Speaker 3: been allowed to run rough shot over women's issues. Australia
Speaker 3: E Safety Commissioner Julian mcgrant came out to accuse Donald
Speaker 3: Trump and his followers of being misinformation minds online.
Speaker 22: During his presidency, Donald Trump not only savagely abused foos
Speaker 22: online with impunity, but was identified as a major super
Speaker 22: spreader of miss and disinformation.
Speaker 3: But this same E Safety commissioner who appears to have
Speaker 3: been on quite the mission to censor factual tweets about
Speaker 3: trans women breastfeeding. At what point does this pendulum swing
Speaker 3: back to common sense after the narrative has demanded compliance
Speaker 3: with an obviously anti science position.
Speaker 21: This position from Julian Mangrand is quite ironic, isn't it,
Speaker 21: Because she is someone who is basically saying that men
Speaker 21: can be women, that men can breastfeed, that it's a
Speaker 21: hate crime to say otherwise, And yet she's the one
Speaker 21: who's policing misinformation. She's probably not the best person to
Speaker 21: be doing that. And I think it really shows the
Speaker 21: issue with putting in the hands of one person or
Speaker 21: a team of people basically control over truth online. But
Speaker 21: you know, I think that we're already seeing a swing
Speaker 21: back to truth into biological reality. I think some of
Speaker 21: these issues, especially the gender ideology ones, have gone too far.
Speaker 21: When we started really speaking out strongly on these issues
Speaker 21: several years ago, there weren't many people speaking out. There's
Speaker 21: been a huge shift over the last few years. People
Speaker 21: are willing to rest their livelihoods and to.
Speaker 2: Get sued and et cetera. But they're still.
Speaker 21: Speaking out because they're absolutely sick of it. And so
Speaker 21: I think we've definitely seen a seed change on.
Speaker 2: This, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: And even Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Muss said that
Speaker 3: he was tricked into giving consent for his child to
Speaker 3: go on puberty blockers, adding that he believes the Woke
Speaker 3: Mind virus figuratively killed his son. This is what he
Speaker 3: had to say in an interview with Jordan Peterson.
Speaker 1: So I was straightt into doing this, and it wasn't
Speaker 1: explained to me that puberty blockers are actually just sterilization drugs.
Speaker 1: So anyway, and so I lost my son essentially. So
Speaker 1: you know, they they're caught dead naming for a reason,
Speaker 1: all right. And so the reason that's called dead naming
Speaker 1: is because your son is dad. So my son is
Speaker 1: aber is Dad killed by the walk mind.
Speaker 3: Virus, and this shows that anyone, no matter how wealthy
Speaker 3: or worldly, can get caught up and caught out in
Speaker 3: the vagaries.
Speaker 2: Of gender ideology.
Speaker 3: You did mention or you just touched on it before,
Speaker 3: But are we really seeing more of that pushback from parents?
Speaker 21: I think we are seeing the pushback, and I think
Speaker 21: having someone like or must seek out is going to, really,
Speaker 21: I hope, give parents a lot of courage to continue
Speaker 21: to do that, because someone with that kind of influence,
Speaker 21: someone who's probably one of the most intelligent people in
Speaker 21: the world, was captured by this ideology. You know, he's
Speaker 21: admitted that it was a mistake sign those forms, that
Speaker 21: he was tripped, but he's come out and he said that, so,
Speaker 21: you know, I think that that hopefully is going to
Speaker 21: be redemptive for parents to know that, no matter where
Speaker 21: they are on their child's journey in supporting them, that
Speaker 21: it's not too late to step back and reflect and
Speaker 21: to think, well, maybe this isn't quite right. Maybe I've
Speaker 21: been you know, misled by the medical profession. And I
Speaker 21: think they are the ones that do have a lot
Speaker 21: to answer for here, because they, of all people, know
Speaker 21: that human beings cannot change sex, and what they are
Speaker 21: doing to children and young people in the name of
Speaker 21: the sencitious ideology is an absolute medical scandal.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And when you go back and think about even
Speaker 3: the things that JK. Rowling was saying, you know, even
Speaker 3: six months ago, twelve months ago, eighteen months ago, she.
Speaker 2: Was really at the forefront of this pushback.
Speaker 3: And it is good to say people like Keylon Musk
Speaker 3: another you know, senior and well known figures starting to
Speaker 3: push back on this because it's much more difficult for
Speaker 3: everyday people to be able to do that. Anyway, thank
Speaker 3: you so much for joining us. Rachel Wong, that's it
Speaker 3: for me, up next to his Newsnight, Good night,