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Speaker 1: On scorn Lids Australia. This is the Weader Panete Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the reader Panahe Show.

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Speaker 3: I'm Caroline Drusso coming up on the show tonight. Democrats

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Speaker 3: are gathering in droves, are ready to jump on the

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Speaker 3: Kamala train.

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Speaker 2: But what does she actually stand for?

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Speaker 3: Douglas Murray joins me shortly to discuss just that the

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Speaker 3: Victorian government is again in the firing line after their

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Speaker 3: push to include trans women in an inquiry on women's pain.

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Speaker 3: Rachel Wong from Women's Forum Australia on that, and of

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Speaker 3: course a stellar edition of Left is losing it where

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Speaker 3: the Trump arrangement syndrome, Well, it continues to flourish.

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Speaker 4: We the people united mobilized and voted down this existential

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Speaker 4: threat to democracy and freedom.

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Speaker 5: That we continue the march progress, that we lay the

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Speaker 5: foundation right better future, and that we sought to create.

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Speaker 1: Home perfect union.

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Speaker 5: Progress is possible.

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Speaker 2: Flourishing, it really is.

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Speaker 3: But first joining me now is Deputy Executive Director of

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Speaker 3: the Institute of Public Affairs, Daniel Wild. Daniel, we know

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Speaker 3: Labour's Future Made in Australia agenda is just its very

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Speaker 3: latest boondoggle. Even the OECD suspects it will be a

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Speaker 3: field day for lobbyists. We know that government's are notoriously

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Speaker 3: bad at picking winners. Is the OECD on the money here.

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Speaker 6: Well, Caroline, future made in Australia is really a future

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Speaker 6: made in marginal labor seats, because this is what it's

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Speaker 6: all about. As you know, it's about politics, not economics,

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Speaker 6: and taxpayers are going to be fleeced for no meaningful

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Speaker 6: outcome to our society. We can't have a future made

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Speaker 6: in Australia under the policy of net zero. Net zero

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Speaker 6: is responsible for skyrocketing energy prices, which is offshoring our manufacturing,

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Speaker 6: offshowing our heavy industry. And we know that the number

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Speaker 6: one winner from policies of netszuro is not Australia, it's China.

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Speaker 6: China is the major manufacturer and exporter of wind turbines

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Speaker 6: and solar panels. Australia doesn't get any value from the

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Speaker 6: exports of that, and it's about China reorientating global economic

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Speaker 6: supply chains around it.

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Speaker 7: So this is a very short.

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Speaker 6: Sighted, myopic policy that is clearly not in our national interests.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not and still on dumb ideas or dumb

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Speaker 3: labor ideas which hamper productivity. And Robert god Libsen had

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Speaker 3: an excellent piece in The Australian on Labour's recent IR

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Speaker 3: changes and the ability they give unions essentially to strangle productivity.

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Speaker 2: Within family businesses.

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Speaker 3: What is this reformant and what are the consequences likely

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Speaker 3: for business?

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Speaker 6: We've got leaps AND's hit the nail on the head

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Speaker 6: and he's been discussing this important issue now for some time.

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Speaker 6: And look, in essence, it would allow unfettered entry of

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Speaker 6: unions and union delegates into small business work sites across Australia.

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Speaker 6: It's on top of the effective outlawing of casual work,

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Speaker 6: which is foundational to small businesses across the country. And

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Speaker 6: I think it builds on this broader ideological agenda of

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Speaker 6: Labor and the Left which is anti small business, is

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Speaker 6: anti family business, which is the engine room of the economy.

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Speaker 6: But it's also foundational to the Australian way of life.

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Speaker 6: You know, small business is about hard work, independence, risk taking,

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Speaker 6: reward for effort, all of those values that we should

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Speaker 6: encourage in our society. And it further shows Caroline that

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Speaker 6: Labor is really now the party of big business, because

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Speaker 6: big business will be the main beneficiaries of these changes

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Speaker 6: because it will have less competition from small business. So

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Speaker 6: we know that small and family enterprises cannot absorb the

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Speaker 6: costs of these industrial relation changes in the same way

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Speaker 6: that big businesses can. And of course it comes on

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Speaker 6: the back of the COVID lockdowns, which hammered small business,

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Speaker 6: it helped big business, and so this is just another

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and small businesses can't have a full compliance department

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Speaker 3: to deal with all these things, and that's where you

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Speaker 3: see that competition evaporate, but still on the economy and

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Speaker 2: The employment rate to surge.

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Speaker 3: Inflation figures come down at the end of the month,

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Speaker 3: but I feel like we're being softened up for a

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Speaker 6: Well, I think you're right, Carolina. Unfortunately, you know, six

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Speaker 6: Now all the talk is it's going to be up

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Speaker 6: and not down. And that's because of two key factors.

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Speaker 6: One is out of control government spending at the federal

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Speaker 6: subsidies for energy bills. Well, that's going to get pumped

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Speaker 6: We've also got this problem, Caroline, which is this mass migration,

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Speaker 6: unplanned mass migration, which is pumping demand into the economy

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Speaker 6: at the same time as our supply is going backwards.

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Speaker 6: You know, productivity growth is going backwards in this country,

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Speaker 6: so we're less able to generate wealth, we're less able

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Speaker 6: an unprecedented surge to mass migration, over a million net

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Speaker 6: migrants over the last two years, by far, the biggest

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Speaker 6: expansion in the history of our nation's population. So these

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Speaker 6: are causing surging prices and inflation. It's why Australians are

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Speaker 6: feeling all of the pain that they are at the checkout.

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Speaker 3: And Daniel, is it a question of does this federal

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Speaker 3: government have the tiker or not have the ticker to

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Speaker 3: make the big decisions which need to be made.

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Speaker 1: No, they don't.

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Speaker 6: They've shown no inclination to deal with the big problems.

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Speaker 7: Look on migration.

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Speaker 6: I know the government's been saying they're going to be

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Speaker 6: cutting numbers, but I believe it when I see it.

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Speaker 6: They haven't really taken on these issues in any meaningful way,

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Speaker 6: and that's because fundamentally, the only economic plan of this

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Speaker 6: government is to grow the economy by growing the population. Now,

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Speaker 6: of course, if you bring more people into a nation,

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Speaker 6: the economy will get bigger. You've got a bigger market,

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Speaker 6: more people spending money. But the slice of the pie

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Speaker 6: that everybody gets is going backwards. You know, we've had

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Speaker 6: five consecutive borders of negative per capita economic growth. So

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Speaker 6: this mass migration policy is making Australians poorer.

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Speaker 3: And the minute they reduce migration, that aggregate GDP figure

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Speaker 3: will come down along with it. So you know, they

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Speaker 3: say that's something they're going to do, but whether ultimately

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Speaker 3: is a totally different question. Now onto the self evident

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Speaker 3: and labor, Energy and Resources ministers across the country are

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Speaker 3: now trying to make the case for continued gas supply.

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Speaker 3: The narrative until recently has been to totally demonize gas.

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Speaker 3: But I suppose the reality is finally set in.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's right, Caroline.

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Speaker 6: I'd make one exception to that, which is I think

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Speaker 6: Madeline King, in all fairness to federal Resources Minister has

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Speaker 6: the job done. It shows that net zero does not work.

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Speaker 6: It's further evidence of that. We've just seen tweaky forests

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Speaker 6: give up on the government subsidized hydrogen. So it builds

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Speaker 6: on a series of problems. Clearly, those clear thinkers like

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Speaker 6: Madeline King have been rolled in cabinet by Chris Bowen

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Speaker 6: and those from the left of the party, and it

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Speaker 6: gets to this much bigger issue, which is the short

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Speaker 6: sighted policy at the state and federal level. Of course,

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Speaker 6: we need baseload power, we need coal and we need

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Speaker 6: gas into the system. We need it in there quick.

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Speaker 6: Prices are going up dramatically. We've had AEMO warning of

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Speaker 6: blackouts this summer. I mean, can you believe it in

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Speaker 6: a country like Australia, an abundance of coal, an abundance

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Speaker 6: shedding and blackouts over summer. That just goes to the

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Speaker 6: monumental policy failures that we've seen in this country over

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely right there, Bang on now, I've only

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Speaker 3: got about a minute left for you. But protest is

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Speaker 3: at Uwa's curtain. University have got their nickers in or

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Speaker 3: not because the university has told them they can't use

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Speaker 2: Daniel, how on earth will they ever survive?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's right.

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Speaker 6: I mean you're in Perth, Carolina and I think you know,

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Speaker 6: WA has probably been a bit more sensible on this

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Speaker 6: good on the university for finally cracking down on this.

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Speaker 6: I'm not holding my breath for anything from the University

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Speaker 6: of Sydney or the University of Melbourne. Look, of course

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Speaker 6: people have the right to voice their opinion and to protest.

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Speaker 6: You don't have the right to blockade. You don't have

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Speaker 6: the right to set up encampments. We know university students

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Speaker 6: don't want to go to campus because they don't feel

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Speaker 6: it's an environment where they can study and get ahead.

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Speaker 6: And I just don't understand for the life of me,

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Speaker 6: why are governments funding this. You know, all funding to

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Speaker 6: universities that are allowing these kind of protests to take

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Speaker 6: place should stop until these universally university vice chancellors finally

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Speaker 6: get with the program and understand that university should be

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Speaker 6: there for the pursuit of academic excellence, not this vis

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Speaker 6: if Retrick from a handful of students.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, thank you for your insights.

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Speaker 3: Daniel Wild joining me now, is the author of international

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Speaker 3: best sellers, including The Strange Death of Europe, The Madness

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Speaker 3: of Crowds. In his latest book, The War on the West,

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Speaker 3: Douglas Murray, It's been a huge week in US politics,

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Speaker 3: and just when I thought an assassination attempt on a

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Speaker 3: out it was just the beginning of the wheels coming off. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: Biden's resignation didn't just happen. Do we know what went

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Speaker 7: We very much know what happened behind the scenes.

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Speaker 8: Now it's almost a month since Joe Biden had that

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Speaker 8: catastrophic debate performance opposite Donald Trump, and many people thought

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Speaker 8: that the whole idea of the Democrats agreeing the Democrat

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Speaker 8: ticket agreeing to a debate so early, so far ahead

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Speaker 8: of the election, might have been an effort by some

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Speaker 8: of the Democrats to actually show world what they all secretly,

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Speaker 8: turn out have known, which is that Joe Biden was

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Speaker 8: far from firing on all cylinders these days. That fact

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Speaker 8: the Democrats and certainly a lot of their supporters. And

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Speaker 8: so in the weeks since, there has been an effort,

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Speaker 8: first of all privately and then increasingly publicly among senior

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Speaker 8: Democrats to signal to Joe Biden, you know it's time

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Speaker 8: to leave.

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Speaker 7: It's very interesting.

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Speaker 8: In the days before Sunday, there was a growing public

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Speaker 8: set of statements by Democrats all sort of saying that

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Speaker 8: Joe Biden wasn't fit to xyz it the minute that

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Speaker 8: he released this strange statement on x formerly known as

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Speaker 8: Twitter on Sunday, the moment he released that. Suddenly, now

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Speaker 8: all the Democrats are saying, Joe Biden is the best

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Speaker 8: of us, He's a true here, this is what leadership

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Speaker 8: looks like, and so on. But yes, all the people

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Speaker 8: who are currently praising Joe Biden were, of course the

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Speaker 8: people who were busily pushing him out in recent days.

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Speaker 8: It's Nancy Pelosis, Chuck Schumer and many others. The whole

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Speaker 8: leadership of the Democrat Party realized that.

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Speaker 7: They were running a.

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Speaker 8: Candidate frankly totally unfit for the office. It was perfect

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Speaker 8: clear he couldn't perform the task, He couldn't stay awake

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Speaker 7: No way he was going to run the country for

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Speaker 7: another four years.

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Speaker 8: Although it does raise a question of exactly who's running

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Speaker 8: it now, and the answer is, we don't know.

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Speaker 2: And that's the point. I suppose.

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Speaker 3: No, but Kamala Harris has told a rally in Wisconsin

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Speaker 7: Who else is.

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Speaker 7: Sort of praise her.

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Speaker 8: Really, there's almost no banality that she cannot come out with,

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Speaker 2: But Douglas, do the Dems actually have another choice?

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Speaker 3: Is there actually another viable option at this point so

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Speaker 8: It would have to be a really stunning household name.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, you.

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Speaker 8: Know, the enormous selfishness actually of Joe Biden and Jill

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Speaker 2: I don't think I could have put that better.

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Speaker 3: But back to Kamala, and we have seen snippets of

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Speaker 3: Very few of those snippets have been edifying Douglas. Here

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Speaker 9: Right now, what we're seeing in America is many cities

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Speaker 3: And here she is talking about eliminating private health insurance.

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Speaker 2: Well, listen, the.

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Speaker 9: Idea is that everyone gets access to medical care and

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Speaker 2: Let's eliminate all of that. Let's move on, and it

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Speaker 3: She also agreed with the hard left representative AOCS push

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Speaker 12: Sixty minutes this weekend, proudly calling herself a radical and

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Speaker 9: No, you know, I think that she is challenging the

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Speaker 2: I think that's fantastic, Douglas.

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Speaker 7: No, we have very little idea of what she believes in.

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Speaker 8: Actually, because she Isia says things like that's why we

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Speaker 7: But there's absolutely no meat on the bone.

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Speaker 8: I mean, the idea is in that first clip that

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Speaker 8: It's not a lack of money that's the problem in

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Speaker 7: She just says what she needs to say to.

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Speaker 3: Which is going to be a huge problem if she,

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Speaker 2: Last couple of days. Where do you think this will learn?

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Speaker 7: I think probably not.

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Speaker 8: I think quite a lot of the people that people

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Speaker 8: I mean, you know, we'll see, there's a long way

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Speaker 8: Been unbelievable amount of things happening, from the attempted assassination

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a very very fair call.

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Speaker 3: And back to where this week kind of started, obviously

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Speaker 13: Our reaction, the immediate reaction to her resignation is that

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Speaker 3: And it's no wonder she had to go, especially after

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Speaker 2: But I think this was probably my favorite exchange of

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Speaker 14: Would you agree that this is the most serious security

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Speaker 14: And you know, do you know what Stuart Knight did

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Speaker 2: He remained on duty.

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Speaker 15: What I will tell you, sir, is that I am

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Speaker 2: I will remain on Douglas.

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Speaker 3: The hubris that was on display at that hearing was

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Speaker 3: absolutely extraordinary. Why on earth did it take so long

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Speaker 3: for that reality to set in?

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Speaker 16: Well?

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Speaker 8: I watched that hearing and came away with a view

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Speaker 8: that the now former head of the Secret Services clearly

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Speaker 8: decided that her aim in the hearing was to say

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Speaker 8: as little as possible whilst presenting herself as being as

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Speaker 8: helpful as possible. She wouldn't answer even the most basic

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Speaker 8: questions like when did you start preparing for this hearing?

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Speaker 8: She said things like well, for the best of my recollection,

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Speaker 8: or I can't recall, or there was no skin off

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Speaker 8: her nose. If she'd have just said, you know, I

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Speaker 8: started preparing the moment I heard, which was six days ago,

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Speaker 8: or whatever, she seemed to be intent on not giving

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Speaker 8: any details in case she could somehow be tripped up

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Speaker 8: on them at some later date in the hearing or afterwards.

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Speaker 8: And that was just a disastrous tactic. She had repeaterdly

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Speaker 8: asked about timelines and it turned out she didn't have them.

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Speaker 7: It really was an embarrassment. You know, she was a political.

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Speaker 8: Appointee of Joe and Jill Biden, was of close to

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Speaker 8: them and respected and liked by them when she was

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Speaker 8: in charge of then Vice President Biden's security detail. She

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Speaker 8: obviously was not the right person for this job. She

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Speaker 8: certainly wasn't the right person to represent herself in front

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Speaker 8: of a congressional hearing. And I think it's probably very

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Speaker 8: good that she goes.

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Speaker 7: She's gone.

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Speaker 8: That said, there is an enormous amount that still needs

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Speaker 8: to be found out and interrogated about exactly what did

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Speaker 8: happen that day at the Trump rally, because there are

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Speaker 8: so many security failings that we now know that have

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Speaker 8: come out. And as I said last week, this is

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Speaker 8: you know, the world was just too close, by a

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Speaker 8: couple of millimeters from something utterly catastrophic happening.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and it's very fair that representatives on both sides

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Speaker 3: they are want to know what happened, because obviously they

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Speaker 3: are all in danger if the Secret Service isn't doing

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Speaker 3: what it needs to be doing. Now, one last topic,

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Speaker 3: and we know Benjamin Netna who is in the US

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Speaker 3: to mate with the government in relation to the.

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Speaker 2: Ongoing war in Gaza.

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Speaker 3: It's been reported that Kamala Harris is going to boycott

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Speaker 3: netnya who's dress.

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Speaker 2: But that's not all.

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Speaker 3: Apparently pro Palestinian protesters have invaded the Capitol building. If

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Speaker 3: this wasn't so serious, Douglas, it would just be the

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Speaker 3: most epic political satup.

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Speaker 7: Well, yes, but.

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Speaker 8: I mean it is very serious because I mean here

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Speaker 8: we see a very important relationship for America and Israel

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Speaker 8: being put under strain, not by these nincome poop protesters.

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Speaker 8: I mean they should all just be arrested as anyone

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Speaker 8: else would be if say they broke into the Capitol building.

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Speaker 8: But the thing of putting strain on it is that

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Speaker 8: decision by current Vice President Harris not preside over the session.

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Speaker 8: I think she's speaking to a high school somewhere in

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Speaker 8: Vermont something at the time.

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Speaker 7: When she could be presiding that joint session.

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Speaker 8: Clearly she is making this more of a political point

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Speaker 8: than it needs to be. There has actually always been

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Speaker 8: a great bipartisan agreement in the US on the importance

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Speaker 8: of the American Israeli relationship. I'm sure the Prime Minister

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Speaker 8: nathana Who will speak to that when he speaks.

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Speaker 7: On Wednesday, and we'll see.

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Speaker 8: But's it is a snub actually by Kamala Harris and

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Speaker 8: a very bad sign Netania, who's also meant to be

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Speaker 8: meeting Joe Biden to express his thanks for Joe Biden's

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Speaker 8: support since October. But it's not even clear if that's

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Speaker 8: going to happen, because it's not clear if Biden's well

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Speaker 8: enough to meet him. It seems so that according to

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Speaker 8: reports today, So we'll see. But you know, it should

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Speaker 8: be an important time from America and Israel to re

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Speaker 8: emphasize the strength of that relationship, and if it is

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Speaker 8: politicized by come Harris and others, it'll be to the

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Speaker 8: detriment of both countries and a lamentable situation which should

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Speaker 8: never have arisen.

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Speaker 2: No, and I think there's plenty more to come out

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Speaker 2: in the wash there. Thank you so much, Douglas Murray.

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Speaker 7: Great pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Still to come left is losing it, including those fawning

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Speaker 3: over Marmala.

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Speaker 2: Harris and Adam B.

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Speaker 3: Coleman analyzes the left's attempt to rebrand laugh and Kamala.

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Speaker 3: Now it's time for left is losing it and as

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Speaker 3: we barrel towards a US presidential election, the Dallas turned

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Speaker 3: up on the partisan crazy and it is coming from

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Speaker 3: absolutely all directions. In the aftermath of former President Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump being shot, this is what the president of the

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Speaker 3: American Federation of Teachers had to say.

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Speaker 17: It is seldom a dramatic event or attack that lets

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Speaker 17: fash in the door.

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Speaker 18: The violence comes later after they are voted.

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Speaker 17: In voting, it's still our best defense against tyranny and fascism,

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Speaker 17: and it's our best offense to create the better future

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Speaker 17: we dream of, and march.

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Speaker 18: For progress is possible, but not guaranteed. When the history

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Speaker 18: books are written about this moment, let them record that

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Speaker 18: we the.

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Speaker 4: People united, mobilized and voted down.

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Speaker 5: This existential threat to democracy and freedom, that we continue

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Speaker 5: the march progress, that we lay the foundation for a

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Speaker 5: better future, and that we sought to create a more

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Speaker 5: perfect union progress.

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Speaker 8: It is possible.

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Speaker 19: Kick marching.

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Speaker 3: Hardly softening political discourse in the aftermath of an attempted

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Speaker 3: political assassination. And if that isn't an advertisement for homeschooling,

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Speaker 3: then I'm not really sure what is now. Moving on

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Speaker 3: to Kamala Harris, who many are saying will be the

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Speaker 3: Democratic nominee.

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Speaker 2: It's fascinating to see how.

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Speaker 3: The lefty media has ditched Old Joe jumping headfirst onto

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Speaker 3: the Kamala train.

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Speaker 13: I'm jumping out of my feet over here watching the

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Speaker 13: people have been thirsting for this, and.

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Speaker 9: I'll just say this, you know, and I'm with Tim, Tim,

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Speaker 9: I'm jumping out of my seat higher than you, my brother.

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Speaker 7: I'm just gonna say that.

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Speaker 19: It was a twinkle in her eye. There was a

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Speaker 19: kick in her step that you know when you're a

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Speaker 19: vice president. You know, I don't You're not looks you can't.

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Speaker 19: You know there's somebody above you, there's somebody you don't

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Speaker 19: want to overshadow them.

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Speaker 10: You are.

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Speaker 19: And this was quite the coming out. And I got

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Speaker 19: chills when she said, don't try I know your tape.

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Speaker 10: I was blown away.

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Speaker 19: I was like, I kind of fell in love with her.

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Speaker 19: I thought she was smart, engaging, She's funny, fasting, twikle

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Speaker 19: in your eye, punch you in the gun.

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Speaker 7: I mean everything.

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Speaker 2: You what.

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Speaker 19: I just thought it was a great, great opening act.

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Speaker 1: She looked completely comfortable tonight with the words she was speaking.

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Speaker 1: They felt organic and genuine.

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Speaker 3: Are we even living on the same planet? And of

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Speaker 3: course a switch in the Democratic nomination wouldn't be complete

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Speaker 3: without some blame landing with the Republicans. Apparently it's a

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Speaker 3: racist to suggest Harris is a dei.

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Speaker 19: Higher Republicans have gone so far as to call her

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Speaker 19: a dei.

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Speaker 7: Hire was just clad out racist.

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Speaker 3: This is a pretty unusual allegation given I thought it

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Speaker 3: was one of the few accepted facts.

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Speaker 2: On both sides of the aisle. After all, no one.

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Speaker 3: Has accused Kamala Harris of being competent. But let's it

592
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Speaker 3: dial up the crazy a bit further.

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Speaker 2: Apparently mispronouncing her name is a hate crime.

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Speaker 16: Heard from inside Republican circles and right wing media that

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Speaker 16: the heat campaign against Kamala Harris has begun. You'll notice

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Speaker 16: they purposefully pronounce her name wrong, they say Kamala. They

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Speaker 16: do it all the time. It is on purpose. But

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Speaker 16: the talk is to start that heat campaign and get

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Speaker 16: it going and start it churning.

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Speaker 3: And over recent days and hours, more people are coming

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Speaker 3: out to endorse Kamala Harris, the Clintons, Nancy Pelosi. Then

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Speaker 3: there is Meghan Markle, who reportedly wants to endorse Kamala

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Speaker 3: Harris as well. Megan is so lacking in self awareness,

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Speaker 3: so she doesn't realize that her endorsement is probably more

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Speaker 3: like a kiss of death. Perhaps just send her some

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Speaker 3: strawberry jam and stay mum. And while the Democrat political

607
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Speaker 3: establishment is getting used to the idea of presidential nominee Harris,

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Speaker 3: this blow thinks the presidential nominee should be trans.

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Speaker 15: I think we need a transgender president.

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Speaker 2: And here's why.

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Speaker 15: There is no greater struggle than the English trans You're

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Speaker 15: constantly hated, You're constantly people wanting to unalive you because

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Speaker 15: just because of who you are. If we had transgender president,

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Speaker 15: the world would be a much better place and maybe

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Speaker 15: all our haters might actually leave the United States instead

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Speaker 15: of staying here. We the people run this country, not

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Speaker 15: our presidents, not our congressman, not our Senate. Our constitution

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Speaker 15: says we the people. So maybe who's with me? We

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Speaker 15: need a transgender president. I'm up for anybody else who's

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Speaker 15: going to be a candidate.

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Speaker 3: Who knew a presidential election a change and nominate, and

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Speaker 3: an attempted assassination could produce so much insane material. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: there you have it. Joining me now is wrong speak?

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Speaker 3: Publishing founder Adam B. Coleman Adam Kamala Harris has gone

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Speaker 3: hard to secure the Democratic nomination in the days after

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden announced his withdrawal.

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Speaker 2: What's the latest and does it look like she's got

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Speaker 2: that all stitched up?

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Speaker 20: It seems like it, But there's a lot that can

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Speaker 20: happen up until when we make it to the convention.

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Speaker 20: You know, there's quite a bit of a possibility that

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Speaker 20: they might stroll elsewhere, but there's a lot of momentum

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Speaker 20: behind Kamala Harris. That might be the direction that they

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Speaker 20: go at the convention. It seems to make the most sense,

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Speaker 20: especially from a campaign finance situation. So I would say

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Speaker 20: it's more likely that she'll be the nominee, but you

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Speaker 20: never know what happens when it comes to the convention.

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Speaker 2: And plenty of other names have been floated.

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Speaker 3: But some of those perspective nominads, do you think they're

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Speaker 3: either eyeing off the vice presidential nomination or just waiting

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Speaker 3: holding their breath until next time.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, the names that constantly come up like Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 20: and other notable names. I think there's a likely chance

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Speaker 20: that they're going to wait till next time around. I

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Speaker 20: think someone who is likely to win a presidential race,

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Speaker 20: like in a full length I don't think they're going

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Speaker 20: to want to risk coming in with four months essentially

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Speaker 20: until the election comes around to run an entire campaign,

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Speaker 20: raise money, so on and so forth. I think it's

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Speaker 20: a huge risk for someone who does have presidential ambitions.

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Speaker 20: So that's why even more so, I think it's leaning

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Speaker 20: more towards Kamala Harris. Pamala was alongside Joe Biden. For

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Speaker 20: many voters, they're going to see that Kamala Harris is

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Speaker 20: an extension of Joe Biden, but obviously someone who is

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Speaker 20: younger and more alive than Joe Biden is. So I

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Speaker 20: think it's an easy transition for the Democratic Party to

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Speaker 20: move in her direction.

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Speaker 18: Now.

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Speaker 3: The withdrawal of Biden has definitely changed the landscape of

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Speaker 3: the presidential race, that's for sure. Donald Trump has accused

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Speaker 3: the Democrats of fraud over the Biden swap. Is this

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Speaker 3: an acknowledgment that Harris could potentially create some issues for Trump?

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Speaker 20: It's possible, but I think Trump has a point. You know,

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Speaker 20: they went through an entire primary process, and obviously, you know,

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Speaker 20: anybody with two eyes who's paying attention can see that

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Speaker 20: Joe Biden was falling apart, you know, cognitively and literally falling,

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Speaker 20: and so when it comes to one particular debate, all

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Speaker 20: of a sudden, they want to change course, negating all

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Speaker 20: the Democratic voters who went out and chose Joe Biden

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Speaker 20: as their nominee, and pressuring Joe Biden because there was

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Speaker 20: a lot of pushback from the Biden and Biden campaign

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Speaker 20: before he left. So in many ways, I've called this

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Speaker 20: a democratic coup. You know, they wanted him out because

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Speaker 20: the public got to see what he actually look like

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Speaker 20: in prime time, and now they get to put in

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Speaker 20: place the leader that they want, negating all the people

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Speaker 20: who are part of the party, who were part of

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Speaker 20: the process. So you know, whether it's Kamala Harris or

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Speaker 20: they do some backroom deals to choose somebody else, it

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Speaker 20: kind of gets rid of the whole democratic process involving

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Speaker 20: the voters.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, Donald Trump, you know, when

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Speaker 3: Biden withdrew, he must have known that this was coming.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that Kamala Harris attack had that hit the

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Speaker 3: news wave is really quickly.

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Speaker 20: Oh yeah, I think everybody. Everybody suspected that something was

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Speaker 20: going on. There were rumors about Joe Biden leaving office

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Speaker 20: for about a week prior, and actually I was pretty

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Speaker 20: skeptical about him actually leaving because there was so much

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Speaker 20: pushback coming from Joe Biden. Every time there is speculation,

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Speaker 20: there is another press release that he's staying in place

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Speaker 20: and that he's on the campaign trail. So I think

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Speaker 20: if you're a good campaign, you prepare for multiple outcomes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And the Democrats, I've been quick off the mark

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Speaker 3: to frame Kamala as presidential. She took her nieceus for

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Speaker 3: ice cream over the weekend and she's been referred to

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Speaker 3: as Momala. How important is this repositioning of Kamala Harris

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Speaker 3: in this campaign.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, this is a massive pr campaign that's going on.

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Speaker 20: There's a lot of excitement. Some of the excitement is

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Speaker 20: just the juxtaposition of Joe Biden, who is very much

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Speaker 20: so comatose like and here you have someone who is

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Speaker 20: much younger, much more vibrant, smiles a lot, you know,

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Speaker 20: just on the surface, seems like someone that you should

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Speaker 20: be excited over. But Kamala has been hiding for quite

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Speaker 20: some time and letting the PR team fill in the blanks.

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Speaker 20: But that's the excitement of right now. We'll give it

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Speaker 20: some weeks and when she actually starts speaking, if there's

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Speaker 20: going to be a debate, which I would hope there's

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Speaker 20: going to be a debate between her and Trump. If

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Speaker 20: she's a nominee, we get to ask her tough questions.

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Speaker 20: But in the meantime, she's going to do a bunch

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Speaker 20: of fluff interviews by the mainstream media. She's not going

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Speaker 20: to be challenged. She's going to be well prepped to

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Speaker 20: show off her personality rather than her policies.

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Speaker 2: And she might be well prepped.

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Speaker 3: And obviously that talking point about her being younger that

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Speaker 3: there has gone.

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Speaker 2: All through the media very very quickly. But ultimately she's

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Speaker 2: going to have to have a lot more than that.

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Speaker 20: Oh yeah, absolutely, it's working right now. A lot of

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Speaker 20: people are like, look how much money she raised in

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Speaker 20: such a short period of time. Like I said, this

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Speaker 20: is political excitement. It's going to happen. It's going to

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Speaker 20: be like this, especially leading up to her nomination. So

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Speaker 20: she's going to raise money However, there's going to be

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Speaker 20: a point where it's going to slow down and people

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Speaker 20: are going to ask questions, Okay, we're excited about you,

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Speaker 20: but what do you have to offer us, even coming

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Speaker 20: from Democratic voters, because remember they didn't choose her as

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Speaker 20: the nominee, so she still has to win them over,

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Speaker 20: and for some of them it's not enough to not

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Speaker 20: be Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Correct, And I'm just interested to know in that campaign period,

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Speaker 3: say that four months, say that she does get the

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Speaker 3: Democratic nomination, when you think about the demographic that she's

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Speaker 3: designed to appeal to, how markedly different is her campaign going.

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Speaker 2: To be from what would otherwise have been a Biden

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Speaker 2: led campaign.

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Speaker 20: I think it's going to be different in a sense

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Speaker 20: that she's going to appeal more to younger voters. You know,

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Speaker 20: not too long ago, she was part of the BET

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Speaker 20: Awards and a pre tape showing with Taraji p Henson

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Speaker 20: that appeals to a particular demographic of people that Joe

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Speaker 20: Biden doesn't necessarily appeal to. So, you know, by virtue

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Speaker 20: of being younger and also by virtue of being a woman,

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Speaker 20: she may appeal to a wide variety of people in

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Speaker 20: a different way than Joe Biden was able to. But

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Speaker 20: at the same time, this is going to come to

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Speaker 20: a point where she's going to need to be challenged. She's,

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Speaker 20: you know, this entire process because she's being picked. She

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Speaker 20: hasn't been challenged. She hasn't had someone to ask her

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Speaker 20: tough questions in quite some time, basically four years when

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Speaker 20: she did the vice vice presidential debate. So in reality,

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Speaker 20: in the past four years, she's been able to skirt

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Speaker 20: any sort of criticism directly from the media or even

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Speaker 20: addressing the public about something difficult.

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Speaker 3: Now, lastly, and I've got a little under a minute

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Speaker 3: for you, but I know you support the return of

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Speaker 3: manufacturing to the US.

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Speaker 2: It has been a powerhouse in the past.

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Speaker 3: How does the outcome of a presidential election really impact

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Speaker 3: the US's ability to return manufacturing back to home soil,

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Speaker 3: I think greatly.

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Speaker 20: You have one particular issue. You have China as the issue.

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Speaker 20: Donald Trump is bullish on China. Unfortunately the Democrats aren't,

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Speaker 20: and that's going to be a key issue when it

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Speaker 20: comes to actually bringing back jobs here. The second is taxes.

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Speaker 20: Donald Trump is willing to give tax tax bricks to businesses.

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Speaker 20: The Democrats haven't been that tax friendly and so that's

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Speaker 20: going to slow down the opportunities to bring back manufacturing

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Speaker 20: over to the United States.

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Speaker 2: Adam B. Coleman, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 2: This evening still to come.

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Speaker 3: Elo Masters's son is dead, killed by the work line

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Speaker 3: virus and the Allen government gets it wrong on women again.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is CEO of Women's Forum Australia, Rachel Wong.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Rachel Look.

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Speaker 3: I spoke about this topic on Monday with Chris Kenny,

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Speaker 3: but I still can't quite get over the fact that

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Speaker 3: the Victorian government wants to include trans women in an

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Speaker 3: inquiry on women's pain. I don't know about you, but

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty miffed about the idea of biological men cosplaying

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Speaker 3: about pain suffered by women and being indulged on an.

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Speaker 2: Issue that's as serious as this. What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 21: I gues's absolutely idiotic and expensive. I saw one woman

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Speaker 21: comment that it's like saying that pain is basically a

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Speaker 21: fashion accessory for men who want to be validated as women.

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Speaker 21: I mean, including men in an inquiry into women's pain

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Speaker 21: makes absolutely no sense. Women's and men's health conditions are

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Speaker 21: completely different because of the way we're buy it. Logically, Wiet,

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Speaker 21: I think that it's an absolute slappened the face to

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Speaker 21: women whose health has been historically under research and undiagnosed.

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Speaker 21: You know, we finally have this opportunity to really dig

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Speaker 21: deep into what's happening with women's health conditions, and at

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Speaker 21: this point the government just said, well, actually be it's

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Speaker 21: going to conclude men in this as well. I mean,

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Speaker 21: women are already you know, basically losing our own female

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Speaker 21: only spaces, female only sports, female only services, and now

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Speaker 21: apparently we're not even entitle to our own pain.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is ras you're I mean, ultimately we

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Speaker 3: need to know what the results are from this study

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Speaker 3: to be able to improve health care for women. If

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Speaker 3: you're not putting the right information in, you're not going

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Speaker 3: to end up with the right results.

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Speaker 21: One hundred percent. And that should be entirely of theous,

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Speaker 21: especially to Premier Uson to Alan and Health Minister Mary

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Speaker 21: and Thomas, who are both female, who know that women's

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Speaker 21: health issues are very different to men's, and you know

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Speaker 21: that these issues need to be researched, and if you're

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Speaker 21: including men with completely different health issues, then obviously the

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Speaker 21: inquiry is going to be tainted.

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Speaker 3: And this is in the first time biological men have

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Speaker 3: been allowed to run rough shot over women's issues. Australia

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Speaker 3: E Safety Commissioner Julian mcgrant came out to accuse Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump and his followers of being misinformation minds online.

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Speaker 22: During his presidency, Donald Trump not only savagely abused foos

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Speaker 22: online with impunity, but was identified as a major super

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Speaker 22: spreader of miss and disinformation.

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Speaker 3: But this same E Safety commissioner who appears to have

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Speaker 3: been on quite the mission to censor factual tweets about

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Speaker 3: trans women breastfeeding. At what point does this pendulum swing

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Speaker 3: back to common sense after the narrative has demanded compliance

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Speaker 3: with an obviously anti science position.

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Speaker 21: This position from Julian Mangrand is quite ironic, isn't it,

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Speaker 21: Because she is someone who is basically saying that men

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Speaker 21: can be women, that men can breastfeed, that it's a

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Speaker 21: hate crime to say otherwise, And yet she's the one

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Speaker 21: who's policing misinformation. She's probably not the best person to

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Speaker 21: be doing that. And I think it really shows the

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Speaker 21: issue with putting in the hands of one person or

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Speaker 21: a team of people basically control over truth online. But

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Speaker 21: you know, I think that we're already seeing a swing

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Speaker 21: back to truth into biological reality. I think some of

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Speaker 21: these issues, especially the gender ideology ones, have gone too far.

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Speaker 21: When we started really speaking out strongly on these issues

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Speaker 21: several years ago, there weren't many people speaking out. There's

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Speaker 21: been a huge shift over the last few years. People

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Speaker 21: are willing to rest their livelihoods and to.

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Speaker 2: Get sued and et cetera. But they're still.

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Speaker 21: Speaking out because they're absolutely sick of it. And so

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Speaker 21: I think we've definitely seen a seed change on.

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Speaker 2: This, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: And even Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Muss said that

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Speaker 3: he was tricked into giving consent for his child to

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Speaker 3: go on puberty blockers, adding that he believes the Woke

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Speaker 3: Mind virus figuratively killed his son. This is what he

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Speaker 3: had to say in an interview with Jordan Peterson.

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Speaker 1: So I was straightt into doing this, and it wasn't

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Speaker 1: explained to me that puberty blockers are actually just sterilization drugs.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, and so I lost my son essentially. So

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Speaker 1: you know, they they're caught dead naming for a reason,

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Speaker 1: all right. And so the reason that's called dead naming

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Speaker 1: is because your son is dad. So my son is

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Speaker 1: aber is Dad killed by the walk mind.

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Speaker 3: Virus, and this shows that anyone, no matter how wealthy

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Speaker 3: or worldly, can get caught up and caught out in

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Speaker 3: the vagaries.

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Speaker 2: Of gender ideology.

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Speaker 3: You did mention or you just touched on it before,

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Speaker 3: But are we really seeing more of that pushback from parents?

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Speaker 21: I think we are seeing the pushback, and I think

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Speaker 21: having someone like or must seek out is going to, really,

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Speaker 21: I hope, give parents a lot of courage to continue

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Speaker 21: to do that, because someone with that kind of influence,

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Speaker 21: someone who's probably one of the most intelligent people in

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Speaker 21: the world, was captured by this ideology. You know, he's

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Speaker 21: admitted that it was a mistake sign those forms, that

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Speaker 21: he was tripped, but he's come out and he said that, so,

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Speaker 21: you know, I think that that hopefully is going to

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Speaker 21: be redemptive for parents to know that, no matter where

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Speaker 21: they are on their child's journey in supporting them, that

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Speaker 21: it's not too late to step back and reflect and

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Speaker 21: to think, well, maybe this isn't quite right. Maybe I've

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Speaker 21: been you know, misled by the medical profession. And I

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Speaker 21: think they are the ones that do have a lot

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Speaker 21: to answer for here, because they, of all people, know

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Speaker 21: that human beings cannot change sex, and what they are

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Speaker 21: doing to children and young people in the name of

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Speaker 21: the sencitious ideology is an absolute medical scandal.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And when you go back and think about even

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Speaker 3: six months ago, twelve months ago, eighteen months ago, she.

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Speaker 2: Was really at the forefront of this pushback.

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Speaker 3: And it is good to say people like Keylon Musk

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Speaker 3: another you know, senior and well known figures starting to

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Speaker 3: push back on this because it's much more difficult for

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Speaker 3: everyday people to be able to do that. Anyway, thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for joining us. Rachel Wong, that's it

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Speaker 3: for me, up next to his Newsnight, Good night,