Speaker 1: WelCom to L three sixty regularly from every angle. Joining
Speaker 1: me tonight is Dan Ganain.
Speaker 2: That's been the journey, Australian, James Hooper and Dave Ricky
Speaker 2: a Now unfortunately tonight Gordon tell Us can't join us.
Speaker 2: He's had to head home to Queensland to batten down
Speaker 2: the hatches. Take care of the family and the house,
Speaker 2: and from everyone down south, We're really thinking about everyone
Speaker 2: up north in Queensland.
Speaker 1: Take care of your family and your friends.
Speaker 2: We've got some breaking news actually out of Queensland. Let's
Speaker 2: get let's get to it straight away. Peter Badell is
Speaker 2: joining us. Pete talk us through what's going on with
Speaker 2: the Dolphins and the rabbit O's clash.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good evening, boys.
Speaker 4: Look at major development here as we know, there's been
Speaker 4: this disaster, a peer or potential disaster.
Speaker 3: We'd be the siplone out for a threat.
Speaker 4: And I can tell you some breaking news that up
Speaker 4: to four or five Dolphins players I said to withdraw
Speaker 4: from Friday nights class against the RCD. Now the players
Speaker 4: are on the way to the airport as we speak.
Speaker 4: They have a six thirty flight leading in about an
Speaker 4: hour's time from Brisbane.
Speaker 3: I'm tald.
Speaker 4: I don't know the identities of the players at this stage,
Speaker 4: but I have heard that one player could be Mark Nichols.
Speaker 4: There were Queensland Police stor knocks in the Newport region
Speaker 4: today advising residents that there will be major damage to
Speaker 4: their homes and Mark Nichols was out today getting.
Speaker 3: Sandbags and Steen bagging.
Speaker 4: His plays, fortifying it for what could be a major
Speaker 4: cyclone and probably a Queensand's worst cyclone in fifty years.
Speaker 4: So I'm at this stage I don't know the identities of.
Speaker 3: All the players, but up to four or five.
Speaker 4: Players won't be playing against our Sydney on Friday night,
Speaker 4: is my male?
Speaker 2: Well, this is big news as there been an option
Speaker 2: given to the players to bring their families down for
Speaker 2: the game or any ways of trying to help this
Speaker 2: situation so that these players can play against the Bunnies.
Speaker 3: Both.
Speaker 4: They haven't offered the family's relocations in New South Wales,
Speaker 4: but they have put out smit invitations for the wives
Speaker 4: and partners and children to relocate to the Sofcotel hotel
Speaker 4: in Brisbane, CBD.
Speaker 3: It's a regular hotel.
Speaker 4: Used by the NRL that has been put forward by
Speaker 4: Dolphins bosses to the families.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's been taken up at this stage.
Speaker 4: By the relevant families, but I know that there's been
Speaker 4: major concerns among partners, including coding Nigarema's partner Bree.
Speaker 3: Who took to social media today.
Speaker 4: She was quite critical of the NRL, saying that they
Speaker 4: need to do better and I wouldn't be surprised, guys,
Speaker 4: given given Bree sentiments, if Cody Nikarrema is one of
Speaker 4: the players who won't be playing on Friday night.
Speaker 3: So look it is.
Speaker 4: It is a concern for the Dolphins players, and it
Speaker 4: raises the prospect guys of weather South Sydney and getting
Speaker 4: an unfair advantage with several key players to miss out
Speaker 4: for the Dolphins.
Speaker 5: Well, this all happened very quickly, obviously, Pete and yesterday
Speaker 5: the NRL made a decision and this has sort of
Speaker 5: showed to COVID where you know they had to be
Speaker 5: nimble and do things.
Speaker 6: On the run.
Speaker 5: Do the Dolphins actually want to play this gamet? It
Speaker 5: happens so quickly. They lost their home ground, which is fair,
Speaker 5: and they get it back in round seventeen. But given
Speaker 5: these circumstances, I know we have to fill television slots
Speaker 5: and it's eight o'clock Friday and seven o'clock Coinsland. It's
Speaker 5: a big one and it's worth a lot of money
Speaker 5: to the game. But do the Dolphins regret actually sort
Speaker 5: of ticking off on how this has all gone down?
Speaker 4: Look, it's a good question, Dan, Look, I can only
Speaker 4: go off the sentiments of their chief executive, Terry Reader,
Speaker 4: and he said today at a press conference at sun
Speaker 4: Corps Stadium that they were happy with the dialogue with
Speaker 4: the Queens and government and including Premier David, Chris and
Speaker 4: Foley and also the NRL.
Speaker 3: They've been in dialogue with them and they're satisfied with
Speaker 3: the outcome.
Speaker 4: But I know Dean talking to a few Dolphins identities.
Speaker 3: I know several of the wives are filthy.
Speaker 4: I know that there's been some major, some major issues
Speaker 4: internally with players and staff as well, trying to organize
Speaker 4: logistics around family, old care and basically uprooting their lives
Speaker 4: for twenty four to forty eight hours to make sure
Speaker 4: this game goes ahead. So people may argue the merits
Speaker 4: of whether the game should have gone on, Dan and proceeded.
Speaker 4: Who knows, maybe the NURL may reverse their decision in
Speaker 4: the next twenty four hours, given if there is more fallout,
Speaker 4: but as it stands right now, the Dolphins are proceeding.
Speaker 4: I spoke to Christian Wolf, the coach, just a couple
Speaker 4: of hours ago, and he said, look, the show's going on.
Speaker 3: He's heading to the airport.
Speaker 4: So whatever, even if there are mass withdrawals, guys, there
Speaker 4: will be a seventy Mare Dolphins team ready to play
Speaker 4: on Friday night.
Speaker 2: Thank you Bomby, Thank you for the inside information. Always
Speaker 2: got your finger on the pulse. Now that is big
Speaker 2: news coming out of Brisbane and the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Now, this is a tough one.
Speaker 2: It's a tricky one because as players, families, kids involved.
Speaker 2: But you've also got the NRL who have done everything
Speaker 2: they possibly can in a short period of time coming
Speaker 2: off the back of Vegas to relocate this.
Speaker 1: Game to make sure that it continues.
Speaker 2: It's hard to please everyone here. But where do we
Speaker 2: find ourselves and what do we think of this situation?
Speaker 7: A huge news break given the fact that there could
Speaker 7: be four or five players in all likelihood missing from
Speaker 7: that game. Well, if the Dolphins end up missing the
Speaker 7: eight by two points, then all of a sudden, this
Speaker 7: scenario becomes so critical, but your heart goes out to
Speaker 7: all the people in Queensland that are obviously going through
Speaker 7: and preparing for what's going to be an extremely tough
Speaker 7: and difficult time. By the same token, I think the
Speaker 7: NROL need to be commended because we've seen, in terms
Speaker 7: of the leadership of Peter Landi's and Andrew Abdo that
Speaker 7: they are extremely agile, extremely nimble when it comes to
Speaker 7: these types of circumstances. We saw it throughout COVID, we're
Speaker 7: seeing it again now. The fact that the game is
Speaker 7: going ahead I think is a win. But at the
Speaker 7: same time, now that we find out four or five
Speaker 7: players could be absent, big.
Speaker 1: News I think.
Speaker 8: I think the doll perst have shifted from the original
Speaker 8: decision just over twenty four hours ago, with which I
Speaker 8: applaud wholeheartedly, the same as Hoops as far as the
Speaker 8: NFL moving to keep this game on and in my
Speaker 8: original thought was, these guys are well plaid rugby league's players,
Speaker 8: professional athletes. They've got a job to do and for
Speaker 8: that is they travel to Sydney and play the game
Speaker 8: the end.
Speaker 9: However, when you.
Speaker 8: Have five players and that's only now potentially pulling out
Speaker 8: of a match. Peak touched on it. It's now an
Speaker 8: unfair advantage. It is because it is now the worst
Speaker 8: possible preparation going into a Round one match you could
Speaker 8: ask for for a professional sporting organization. It does raise
Speaker 8: the prospect of whether this game will be postponed.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 6: It is unfortunate.
Speaker 5: It is terribly unfortunate and not fair the Warriors when
Speaker 5: a whole season where they had four or five players
Speaker 5: that didn't even come across because of COVID its circumstances.
Speaker 6: There's nothing. I don't think there's anything.
Speaker 5: More the NFL can do, but they made the decision
Speaker 5: Dave on a Tuesday for a Friday game.
Speaker 8: Completely different scenario with COVID, everyone was in the same boat.
Speaker 8: I appreciate the Warriors, you know they were, but at
Speaker 8: least their opposition were also wrapped up in a bubble
Speaker 8: as well.
Speaker 9: See how Sydney had a sweet preparation.
Speaker 8: They're fine, they haven't even had to come out of
Speaker 8: playing in Sydney. It's a bonus. And now five players
Speaker 8: have pulled out of the Dolphins. I think it raises
Speaker 8: the prospect of whether this should be postponed.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. It's a tough one. It won't be postponed.
Speaker 2: The game will go ahead and it's very unfortunate for
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. Hopefully somehow those players can make their way
Speaker 2: down and play, but it's not looking likely at the
Speaker 2: moment now. Jason Ryles round one nightmare. Can you believe it?
Speaker 2: Now he signs on with the Eel. He's had a
Speaker 2: great offseason for more reports heads in Melbourne against Craig Bellamy,
Speaker 2: who's got the best record in the game possibly, I
Speaker 2: think in the history of the game for round one
Speaker 2: games and Moses his key playmaker, has been ruled out.
Speaker 1: Not the best way to start dan No.
Speaker 5: Their record is miserable without him since twenty twenty one paramatter.
Speaker 6: Eight to nineteen. When Mitch Moses doesn't.
Speaker 5: Play, it's look, I suppose it's best get this game
Speaker 5: out of the way.
Speaker 6: You're playing Melbourne down there.
Speaker 5: It's probably right now given Penrith don't have a home ground.
Speaker 6: It's the hardest, as Simon, in all of rugby league.
Speaker 6: The expectations on.
Speaker 5: Paramatta won't be that high surely, and this will be
Speaker 5: a forgive run even if they get lapped.
Speaker 6: It's game one.
Speaker 5: We're not going to expect miracles are with him, Jason
Speaker 5: roll straight away, it's going to take a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's actually a good point you're making.
Speaker 2: It's probably less pressure on him heading down there now
Speaker 2: because no one expects them to win. I want to
Speaker 2: touch more on the injury now of Mitchell Moses. Last
Speaker 2: night I asked bulld or Richie how the severity of it.
Speaker 2: He wasn't sure, he said, you know, they didn't know themselves.
Speaker 2: Have you got heard any more over the last twenty
Speaker 2: four hours.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Look, it's his left foot, Braith, and he broke that
Speaker 7: foot last year. In the process of that healing, he
Speaker 7: had a screw inserted into the foot and it's obviously healed.
Speaker 7: He came back and played, was crucial in that State
Speaker 7: of Origin series where he tore his by set, but
Speaker 7: the foot wasn't an issue over the summer. Throughout the
Speaker 7: course of the training preseason, he started to get some
Speaker 7: sawness where the screw is and where that bone had healed,
Speaker 7: and as a result of that is now in a
Speaker 7: situation where he didn't play any trial games. He had
Speaker 7: his loads lightened because he had some issues around the
Speaker 7: saunas and now we're not playing he's not playing this
Speaker 7: weekend and the Eels are saying it's indefinite as to
Speaker 7: when he returns, which that's the biggest concern for me.
Speaker 7: Whenever people say indefinite, well, there's no time frame.
Speaker 2: Has he had skins skin and have we got the
Speaker 2: results back yet, because that's the most important thing.
Speaker 9: Absolutely.
Speaker 8: Look, as of ten minutes before coming on air's still
Speaker 8: no results from scans taken on Mitch's foot.
Speaker 9: Now, to Hoops's point, there's this trepidation from the Eels
Speaker 9: to go out and declare what the severity of this
Speaker 9: injury is.
Speaker 8: I will say this as of team this Tuesday morning,
Speaker 8: they were still considering naming Mitche So that gives me
Speaker 8: some indication that it might not be full blow and serious.
Speaker 9: However, far from ideal.
Speaker 8: It's the worst possible result, the captain and leader of
Speaker 8: this football team going on a road trip to Melbourne.
Speaker 2: All Right, we've got Benny Elias, Mitch's uncle, coming on
Speaker 2: later on the show, so we'll get hopefully some more
Speaker 2: inside information there. Now, what about Dylan Brown and his contract.
Speaker 2: There's a bit of pressure on him now heading into
Speaker 2: round one. Na Mitchell Moses, we'll get to that a
Speaker 2: little bit later on the contract stuff. But this is
Speaker 2: his opportunity to really stand up and deliver. Right, Dan, Well,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 6: Want to be a Stax machine, but I'll give you
Speaker 6: another one.
Speaker 1: I go again there, I'll give you another one again.
Speaker 5: When they're together, Moses and Brown sixty three percent. When
Speaker 5: Brand doesn't have Moses and he's in the halves, nine wins,
Speaker 5: eighteen losses thirty three percent.
Speaker 10: Is that that is critical?
Speaker 1: Is that.
Speaker 7: I can't believe how much time you're spending in the
Speaker 7: lab that start scam. However, that is extremely pertinent because
Speaker 7: if you're going to be a million dollar player, you
Speaker 7: know both We've all said it, adnors him on this
Speaker 7: program over the years, you have to be able to close.
Speaker 10: He's a big game.
Speaker 2: He could be getting one point three million dollars for
Speaker 2: ten years, the biggest deal in the history of the game.
Speaker 2: So is this the time the moment to show us
Speaker 2: that it's worth It's extraordinary?
Speaker 9: Other cards fall right, like.
Speaker 8: This is the player that his management, Dylan's management believe
Speaker 8: can go to Newcastle and run that team. Now we've
Speaker 8: spoken about it as far as he hasn't had to
Speaker 8: do that before. It's so much uncertainty about going to
Speaker 8: a football club and banking on him leading your team around.
Speaker 9: When he hasn't done it. Had to do it at
Speaker 9: Paramatta with Mitch Moses there.
Speaker 7: I'd even argue Dave that he has had to do
Speaker 7: it at stages. He had to do it last year
Speaker 7: when Mitch was injured, and the sample size that we've
Speaker 7: got wasn't great. The cards didn't fall overly well for Dylan.
Speaker 7: He's a brilliant runner of the foot all is a
Speaker 7: strong defender, but in terms of being an organizing game
Speaker 7: managing half, I don't think he really ticks those boxes.
Speaker 5: Housk you growth because I think you can relate to this, right,
Speaker 5: So you hit the ground running. You played for Australia
Speaker 5: very quickly. You're about one. I remember you signed a
Speaker 5: big deal for the Bulldogs. You're an in demand player.
Speaker 6: What did that do to you? What did that pressure?
Speaker 5: It's a lovely problem to have, yes, but with and
Speaker 5: I remember the amount of money. It wasn't one point
Speaker 5: three million, but at the time it was significant time.
Speaker 5: What does that do to a young player?
Speaker 2: Well, you just got to look at the likes of
Speaker 2: Niko Hines, right, he's a little bit older and what
Speaker 2: he's gone through at the moment.
Speaker 1: Straight away, it puts the bulls on your head, There's
Speaker 1: no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: There's expectation, the magnifying glasses on you with every performance.
Speaker 2: If your team succeeds, you're a genius. If you lose
Speaker 2: your fault, you know, and you know that, and as
Speaker 2: a young guy, it really has an effect on your
Speaker 2: confidence and knocks you around. And if you don't deliver,
Speaker 2: then you can fall off the perch pretty quickly. So
Speaker 2: it is high pressure, and you know, and these days
Speaker 2: it's even more pressure because you've got social media, You've
Speaker 2: got it's I mean, it's triple the amount of money
Speaker 2: you offered.
Speaker 1: Back then as well, so the money's gone up.
Speaker 2: And the exposure the game that the viewership, everything, you know,
Speaker 2: you can't escape it.
Speaker 1: There is no escaping it. So when you take on.
Speaker 2: These big deals, you have to accept that the pressure
Speaker 2: and expectation come with it.
Speaker 1: It's it's hard work, it really is.
Speaker 2: But you know, the greades of our game they get
Speaker 2: through it and they and they deliver, you know, And
Speaker 2: that's the difference.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what brings us.
Speaker 2: Back here to Dylan is is he at that level yet?
Speaker 2: Is he at that elite level where he commands that
Speaker 2: kind of money? You know, really, if you sit back,
Speaker 2: you say no, right, but if he wants to prove
Speaker 2: it again, brings us back to this moment in time,
Speaker 2: you know, this is this is this is a moment
Speaker 2: for him to do that.
Speaker 7: He's never going to get a better opportunity to shut
Speaker 7: all of us up than to go out, lead the team,
Speaker 7: dominate and win again Melbourne and break Craig Bellamy's incredible
Speaker 7: round one streak.
Speaker 10: Do we think it will happen? Probably not.
Speaker 7: They're up against it. And in terms of the highest
Speaker 7: paid player in the history of the game, he's got
Speaker 7: to be able to show in these crucial clutch moments
Speaker 7: that he can do it.
Speaker 10: And he hasn't.
Speaker 7: He's been highly inconsistent. He is a brilliant player, flashes
Speaker 7: the brilliance everywhere over the course of his career. Has
Speaker 7: he done it for twenty six rounds or in a
Speaker 7: final series?
Speaker 2: When you think of John's you think are first and
Speaker 2: there guys that if there are other halves, clearly now,
Speaker 2: if there are other house partners out, you don't blink
Speaker 2: and I may deliver. Eels recruit Zach Lomax is hoping
Speaker 2: Dylan Brown stays put in paramounta.
Speaker 11: There's so much annoying around you are what are you
Speaker 11: going to do in the future or a future sort
Speaker 11: of up in the air, or you've already decided to
Speaker 11: remind it's a part to ignore that external noise.
Speaker 12: I tend he is his motivation, and I think for
Speaker 12: for Dil there's there's every reason that he'd have a
Speaker 12: whole week of speculation around him is because he's such
Speaker 12: a great player, and you know, us as teammates obviously
Speaker 12: want him to be here because they're a much better
Speaker 12: team when he's in it. As I said, he builds
Speaker 12: a lot of speculation because he's such a great a
Speaker 12: great player, and you know, I Fingercoss is going to
Speaker 12: be here. I think he'll be here, and I don't
Speaker 12: think he'll leave Mitchell or or the boys here. And
Speaker 12: he's a Wessie at heart, So I'm sure Deal's going
Speaker 12: to go out and put in a good performance for us,
Speaker 12: and it's a great opportunity for him this week as well.
Speaker 2: Teammate Zach Lomax doesn't want him to go obviously, just
Speaker 2: got there and he doesn't think he'll go. Let's talk
Speaker 2: more about Newcastle and what the offer actually is.
Speaker 1: Why are they offering this much money.
Speaker 2: We've talked about Paramounter, We've talked about Dylan's what's.
Speaker 1: The game with Newcastle?
Speaker 8: So it's a ten year deal worth one point three
Speaker 8: million dollars a season, which we've indicated will become the
Speaker 8: richest deal in history of the game. Thirteen million dollars.
Speaker 8: We've spoken about also to boys that what to the
Speaker 8: other ten year deals in the game. Jason Tamalalo for
Speaker 8: SU Malawi on ten year deals haven't reached the figures
Speaker 8: of this magnitude. What a Newcastle need him because they're
Speaker 8: struggling to sign a market player and they need two things.
Speaker 8: One they need a big signing. Secondly, they need to
Speaker 8: keep Calum Ponger at the club.
Speaker 7: There's plenty of people in the game at the moment
Speaker 7: who will tell you that they think Brown is as
Speaker 7: good as gone. He will not be at PARAMOUNTA next year.
Speaker 7: Money talks all languages. Thirteen million dollars to set yourself
Speaker 7: up your life. I can understand why that has turned
Speaker 7: Dylan's head and why he absolutely and Yels.
Speaker 1: Are who would turn anywhere.
Speaker 10: Of course it would, of course I would.
Speaker 5: It's power thirteen have these bonkers clauses that he's going.
Speaker 5: Good luck to him and his management for getting all
Speaker 5: those silly clauses in there. That's incredible, an incredible bit
Speaker 5: of negotiating.
Speaker 6: Does this no clauses in this one?
Speaker 7: It's a good question. Yes, there are some towards the
Speaker 7: back end of it. Now I don't know the exact details,
Speaker 7: but I was told this today. Certainly there's a theory
Speaker 7: in the Paramatta camp that there are some clauses towards
Speaker 7: the back end. I think they're mutual. I think they
Speaker 7: go both ways. The club. There's an option in the
Speaker 7: club's favor, there's an option in the player's favor for
Speaker 7: the last couple of seasons.
Speaker 5: What about the money factor? Is this what do you
Speaker 5: call it? These ratchet and there's a ratchet clause in there?
Speaker 5: Because I think we're in for an astronomical ride twenty
Speaker 5: twenty seven, twenty twenty eight, when the new television deal comes,
Speaker 5: a cap will go and there might be another television
Speaker 5: deal before that. This Brown contract games and you're telling
Speaker 5: you do we.
Speaker 2: Have a ratchet cause too? That was We spoke about
Speaker 2: this in Vegas. We touched on it quickly our first show.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that one point three with a ratchet cause.
Speaker 2: So again, as Dan was just alluding to, if the
Speaker 2: salary cap goes up, which it will, his contract goes.
Speaker 1: Up as well.
Speaker 6: Who's his manager?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm going to bring up his
Speaker 1: number my deals up this year.
Speaker 6: You're giving them a run.
Speaker 9: You talk about clauses, and it's really interesting.
Speaker 8: I understand there's an appetite if Dylan knocks back the
Speaker 8: huge money and shows loyalty to paramatter. The Eels do
Speaker 8: have an appetite to play with those current clauses going
Speaker 8: forward in his contract, maybe remove them to keep him
Speaker 8: at the club long term on a new deal.
Speaker 1: So okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2: Been a big off season for the Roosters, but coach
Speaker 2: Trent Robinson is putting on the great faith.
Speaker 6: Trent is this season learn is the most challenging.
Speaker 1: You're cotching career.
Speaker 13: No, No, it's just an exciting season. Looking forward to
Speaker 13: this year. There's a lot being made about, you know,
Speaker 13: what we don't have, but you know, the guys that
Speaker 13: step into those roles have been here for a while so.
Speaker 6: Looking forward to the season.
Speaker 4: Banking on youth and experience to play to the same
Speaker 4: level as the bloodshed lost.
Speaker 3: No, that's not how it works.
Speaker 9: You sort of seen your players step up.
Speaker 13: They're a year older, they play more games, they take
Speaker 13: on those leadership roles.
Speaker 3: So it's really about that.
Speaker 13: Crew taking on that role and then yeah, you give
Speaker 13: time for those young guys, give you energy.
Speaker 2: And he spent nothing less from Robo, one of the
Speaker 2: great coaches, really just focusing on the positive and the
Speaker 2: players that he's got in front of him. But as
Speaker 2: you can see here, there is still a major concern
Speaker 2: regardless of what coach Trent Robinson says.
Speaker 1: Jared Luke, Keary Marnu, I can go on.
Speaker 2: The list goes on, but look at the bottom there
Speaker 2: the total of NRL games missing one thousand, two hundred
Speaker 2: and seventy eight just over the preseason.
Speaker 1: That is astronomical too.
Speaker 5: They didn't need, they didn't need expense of Lenu being
Speaker 5: unavailable as well.
Speaker 6: That was just the icing on the cake for this game.
Speaker 5: I can't believe we're talking about odds here, but they
Speaker 5: are being undersold, aren't they.
Speaker 6: Everyone just expects Brisbane to run through them.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow.
Speaker 6: I just want to they've still got some class in
Speaker 6: there to Are they as good? No, of course they're
Speaker 6: not as good. They've still got players that know how
Speaker 6: to win.
Speaker 7: I just look at that list that was on the
Speaker 7: screen a minute ago, Dan and the amount of experience
Speaker 7: from Jared up the top there Strike in the middle.
Speaker 7: With Manu and Joseph Sulia the key playmaker and Sammy
Speaker 7: Walker out for the majority of the season, I think
Speaker 7: the Roosters are absolutely pushing it uphill to make the
Speaker 7: eight this year. I think this is the greatest challenge
Speaker 7: of Trent Robinson's coaching career and I do think that
Speaker 7: Brisbane will handle them tomorrow night.
Speaker 2: I did it with a few of the power breakers
Speaker 2: of the Roosters in Vegas though quite tight lift. But
Speaker 2: you've had a conversation with a few maybe over the
Speaker 2: past twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: They concerned or not.
Speaker 8: But there's certainly they're remaining quite bullish in regards to Robot,
Speaker 8: specifically about Robot, because we know that the noise is
Speaker 8: going to the drums will start to beat if the
Speaker 8: Roosters start to lose a few games.
Speaker 2: But at this point, now what the drums haven't over
Speaker 2: the like I'm talking over the years, he's had a
Speaker 2: lot of success, but he has gone through a couple
Speaker 2: of you know, you know, not many.
Speaker 10: In fairness, he's won three hits the finals once.
Speaker 2: Totally and he should be given time and respect. There's
Speaker 2: no doubt about that.
Speaker 8: That's what's not even That's why it's not even a
Speaker 8: discussion point at the Roosters at this.
Speaker 2: But you believe this year though, it's this year that
Speaker 2: the Drums will be.
Speaker 8: Well, not only off back of losses brave, but that's
Speaker 8: that's the.
Speaker 1: Game I'm talking.
Speaker 8: If they do lose, I still think they'll I think
Speaker 8: I'll stay staunch, I really do, regardless of because of
Speaker 8: what Hoops mentioned, that record is enough to get Robbo
Speaker 8: through and.
Speaker 1: Just the season.
Speaker 9: I don't think.
Speaker 8: Look, guys, I don't think the roster for overhaul of
Speaker 8: the Roosters has coming to some a great surprise.
Speaker 9: But it's not. It's the fact that they missed Dave
Speaker 9: for feeder.
Speaker 1: That's not just that.
Speaker 9: Being tipped out.
Speaker 6: They're the changes.
Speaker 7: Do you think they've recruited, Well, no, I think that
Speaker 7: This is one of the big question.
Speaker 9: Smith was a fail.
Speaker 7: This is one of the big issues is It's probably
Speaker 7: the elephant in the room around the Chucks in the
Speaker 7: air of recruitment and retention. Normally, they are absolutely up
Speaker 7: the top of the tree in terms of rival and
Speaker 7: RL clubs. If they want to buy or sign a player,
Speaker 7: they go out, they have a benchmin they get it done.
Speaker 7: This time around the last three to four years, recruitment
Speaker 7: and retention, I think that's where they've made some poor decisions.
Speaker 7: There's been a variety of different reasons why. The Brandon
Speaker 7: Smith signing has been well documented about a lot of
Speaker 7: the problems that have gone wrong there. We're going to
Speaker 7: talk about that later. But I really do believe it's
Speaker 7: the biggest challenge in Robbo's career, and I do genuinely
Speaker 7: think that from what we saw of them in the trials,
Speaker 7: I think it's going to be a tough season.
Speaker 6: Your expectations are lower, right.
Speaker 10: Of course they are so, but it's a rooster's dand.
Speaker 1: Tolerate not expects this year.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but that's not the point you've just sat there.
Speaker 8: They still have some decent players. There'll be plenty of
Speaker 8: other coaches in the comp that would love to desco Crichton,
Speaker 8: Radley Colin's Daniel Tupo, Dom Young.
Speaker 9: Yeah, doubled a lot, So we're not crying Paul here.
Speaker 1: What's a past mark?
Speaker 6: I think top aight's a good result. Do you not
Speaker 6: agree to That's a pretty good.
Speaker 2: Year, which is unusual, right, but for the Roosters, But
Speaker 2: I think if they make the top eight, it's a part.
Speaker 5: If they had Sam Walker available all year, to a
Speaker 5: lesser extent, Smith, then expectations would be high for what
Speaker 5: they're up against.
Speaker 6: Top eight's pretty I know it's the Roosters, but top
Speaker 6: eight's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, top.
Speaker 7: It's definitely an enormous win for the club.
Speaker 10: I think this.
Speaker 2: Season let's get more into the Brendan Smith situation. What
Speaker 2: is going on in the NBA. We're hearing rumors, Well,
Speaker 2: we know that he won't be there next year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: do we know where he may be heading?
Speaker 7: The Roosters tell Brandon some time ago, obviously when they
Speaker 7: signed rest Robson that we won't be extending you beyond
Speaker 7: twenty twenty five. This is a fascinating narrative break because
Speaker 7: we know how much the rooms in South Sydney loathe
Speaker 7: one another. But I think that the Bunnies are absolutely
Speaker 7: having a look at Brandon. I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 7: a coach like Wayne Bennett and his track record of
Speaker 7: being able to fix players who things might have gone
Speaker 7: a little bit sideways for and they might need a
Speaker 7: little bit of a cuddle.
Speaker 10: And perhaps things have.
Speaker 2: Gone with Murray going down too right with that Achilles
Speaker 2: and he's had some injuries the past couple of years.
Speaker 1: And the middle forward.
Speaker 2: I see him more as a middle forward with late footwork, powerful,
Speaker 2: quick play the ball, I think, and you can play
Speaker 2: at nine wherever they want to play him, and they're
Speaker 2: sure to nine in the South if Mademoisella's doesn't become
Speaker 2: the player they want him to be, or for Philly's potential,
Speaker 2: there's there's a couple of positions that he could play
Speaker 2: at the Bunny's that's an interesting one.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 10: The funny thing is this time last year.
Speaker 7: It was raised during the middle of last year and
Speaker 7: Nick Polaitis and Bus the Roosters went absolutely no way,
Speaker 7: that's the Souths. But I get the impression as though
Speaker 7: that tune might have changed a little bit.
Speaker 6: Now, yeah, there's a little bit more.
Speaker 2: But maybe it's on purpose. Maybe there's a little you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I want to go to further with that.
Speaker 9: Hoops his males spot on.
Speaker 8: It's the increasing talk within the game that Brandon Smith's
Speaker 8: on his way to Sydney. He's on his way there.
Speaker 8: That's that's the discussion, And for me, I still see
Speaker 8: it as a risk. Now, I'm not one hundred percent
Speaker 8: sure on the salary that is being put forward, but.
Speaker 9: For me, it's still a risk.
Speaker 8: And when you think about Sydney situation, they're backing Peter
Speaker 8: Mamazula's to play in the dummy half role. Saliva Harvili
Speaker 8: is that rotating dummy half plays.
Speaker 9: A little bit power forward like Brandon does.
Speaker 8: But for everything we've spoken about the Roosters, we've spoken
Speaker 8: about the recruitment, they got this one wrong.
Speaker 9: So why is it going to be right at sour Sydney.
Speaker 2: That's a good point that you make, and I suppose
Speaker 2: time will tell. Now, Michael will I image sorry at the
Speaker 2: gym this morning, training nice and down there at Kuldjie.
Speaker 1: But there's been some criticism.
Speaker 2: Of one of our penalists on this show and a
Speaker 2: few others about how hard he trains. He has been
Speaker 2: training the Broncos. He's hit back hoops.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I spoke to Madge today.
Speaker 7: He's loving life at the Broncos and loving the challenge
Speaker 7: in front of him, but asked him about the fact
Speaker 7: that Buzz, who we all like and respect, had said
Speaker 7: that he'd heard that Madge might have been overcooking his players.
Speaker 10: This was the response.
Speaker 7: Do you think Penrith and Melbourne are training soft over
Speaker 7: the preseason? They've never spewed in their lives, They've never
Speaker 7: done a tough session. Bloody hell, it's all bullshit. I
Speaker 7: have a grin on my face now when I.
Speaker 10: Hear that stuff.
Speaker 7: It's a fair gay the two teams who've been rolling
Speaker 7: around in Grand finals for however long it is Penreth
Speaker 7: and Melbourne. Everyone talks about how crazy their preseasons are,
Speaker 7: but someone else does it. I know you're training the
Speaker 7: players too hard now.
Speaker 10: Look, Madge was in a mood.
Speaker 7: He was saying that a little bit tongue in cheek, there's.
Speaker 10: A bit of venom in that though there he is,
Speaker 10: there is some pepper.
Speaker 7: I tend to think that Madge has had enough of
Speaker 7: this assertion that because he was branded with it at
Speaker 7: the Bunnies, followed him to the Tigers and now here
Speaker 7: has raised its head at the broncos I love it
Speaker 7: over the summer that break. You can't sit around playing
Speaker 7: lawn balls and you're not going to win comps rolling
Speaker 7: out the picnic rug and passing out around.
Speaker 1: I can't comprehend it.
Speaker 2: Like we trained the Bulldogs harder than anyone else. When
Speaker 2: I was back, she used to kill it and we
Speaker 2: were in the finals every year one our premiership could
Speaker 2: have won more. And the Roosters were our heavyweight opponents,
Speaker 2: our opposition. They did the same, Like you don't get
Speaker 2: to the top from not training hard.
Speaker 1: You just don't do it. And all this bullshit really
Speaker 1: that you're here.
Speaker 2: Coming out from the media saying he's flogging them and
Speaker 2: the players are unhappy.
Speaker 6: I'm going to defend my man Buzz.
Speaker 5: On this school to do I know well, Firstly, I
Speaker 5: remember Gordy in his book wrote about a camp in
Speaker 5: two thousand, right, and he said, I've never been flogged
Speaker 5: that hard in my life. And that's where we won
Speaker 5: the comp in February. As the game changed that much
Speaker 5: in twenty five years, I don't think so. Right, it
Speaker 5: was professional then, it's professional now. But you can't judge
Speaker 5: this until the last couple of months of the season
Speaker 5: if they fade.
Speaker 6: Now, hang on, buzz has got a point.
Speaker 5: Now Brisbane will unbelievable the way they looked in the trials.
Speaker 1: Buzzes saying they're not going to make the top eight.
Speaker 6: Well, OK, I'm not defending my man Buzz on that.
Speaker 6: I'll defend my man buzz.
Speaker 10: Disagree a buzz on me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I did better than the top.
Speaker 5: But don't go chips in until we see how they
Speaker 5: end their season, particularly when.
Speaker 8: The criticism about the Broncos over the past couple of
Speaker 8: seasons is their soft underbelly. So Madge's got up there
Speaker 8: with a job to do, and yeah that starts in
Speaker 8: the preseason.
Speaker 2: Absolutely no doub We had two players on you last
Speaker 2: night and they couldn't believe it, one from Saint George
Speaker 2: and one from the West Tigers.
Speaker 1: So for me, that says it all.
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