1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: WelCom to L three sixty regularly from every angle. Joining 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: me tonight is Dan Ganain. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: That's been the journey, Australian, James Hooper and Dave Ricky 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 2: a Now unfortunately tonight Gordon tell Us can't join us. 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: He's had to head home to Queensland to batten down 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: the hatches. Take care of the family and the house, 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: and from everyone down south, We're really thinking about everyone 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: up north in Queensland. 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: Take care of your family and your friends. 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: We've got some breaking news actually out of Queensland. Let's 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: get let's get to it straight away. Peter Badell is 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: joining us. Pete talk us through what's going on with 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: the Dolphins and the rabbit O's clash. 14 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, good evening, boys. 15 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 4: Look at major development here as we know, there's been 16 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 4: this disaster, a peer or potential disaster. 17 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: We'd be the siplone out for a threat. 18 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 4: And I can tell you some breaking news that up 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 4: to four or five Dolphins players I said to withdraw 20 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 4: from Friday nights class against the RCD. Now the players 21 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 4: are on the way to the airport as we speak. 22 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 4: They have a six thirty flight leading in about an 23 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 4: hour's time from Brisbane. 24 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 3: I'm tald. 25 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 4: I don't know the identities of the players at this stage, 26 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 4: but I have heard that one player could be Mark Nichols. 27 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 4: There were Queensland Police stor knocks in the Newport region 28 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 4: today advising residents that there will be major damage to 29 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 4: their homes and Mark Nichols was out today getting. 30 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: Sandbags and Steen bagging. 31 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,279 Speaker 4: His plays, fortifying it for what could be a major 32 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 4: cyclone and probably a Queensand's worst cyclone in fifty years. 33 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 4: So I'm at this stage I don't know the identities of. 34 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 3: All the players, but up to four or five. 35 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 4: Players won't be playing against our Sydney on Friday night, 36 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 4: is my male? 37 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: Well, this is big news as there been an option 38 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: given to the players to bring their families down for 39 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: the game or any ways of trying to help this 40 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: situation so that these players can play against the Bunnies. 41 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: Both. 42 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 4: They haven't offered the family's relocations in New South Wales, 43 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 4: but they have put out smit invitations for the wives 44 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 4: and partners and children to relocate to the Sofcotel hotel 45 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 4: in Brisbane, CBD. 46 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 3: It's a regular hotel. 47 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 4: Used by the NRL that has been put forward by 48 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 4: Dolphins bosses to the families. 49 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's been taken up at this stage. 50 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 4: By the relevant families, but I know that there's been 51 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 4: major concerns among partners, including coding Nigarema's partner Bree. 52 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: Who took to social media today. 53 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 4: She was quite critical of the NRL, saying that they 54 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 4: need to do better and I wouldn't be surprised, guys, 55 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 4: given given Bree sentiments, if Cody Nikarrema is one of 56 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 4: the players who won't be playing on Friday night. 57 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: So look it is. 58 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 4: It is a concern for the Dolphins players, and it 59 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 4: raises the prospect guys of weather South Sydney and getting 60 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 4: an unfair advantage with several key players to miss out 61 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 4: for the Dolphins. 62 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 5: Well, this all happened very quickly, obviously, Pete and yesterday 63 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 5: the NRL made a decision and this has sort of 64 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 5: showed to COVID where you know they had to be 65 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 5: nimble and do things. 66 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 6: On the run. 67 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 5: Do the Dolphins actually want to play this gamet? It 68 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 5: happens so quickly. They lost their home ground, which is fair, 69 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 5: and they get it back in round seventeen. But given 70 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 5: these circumstances, I know we have to fill television slots 71 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 5: and it's eight o'clock Friday and seven o'clock Coinsland. It's 72 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 5: a big one and it's worth a lot of money 73 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 5: to the game. But do the Dolphins regret actually sort 74 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 5: of ticking off on how this has all gone down? 75 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: Look, it's a good question, Dan, Look, I can only 76 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 4: go off the sentiments of their chief executive, Terry Reader, 77 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 4: and he said today at a press conference at sun 78 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 4: Corps Stadium that they were happy with the dialogue with 79 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 4: the Queens and government and including Premier David, Chris and 80 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 4: Foley and also the NRL. 81 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: They've been in dialogue with them and they're satisfied with 82 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: the outcome. 83 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 4: But I know Dean talking to a few Dolphins identities. 84 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 3: I know several of the wives are filthy. 85 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 4: I know that there's been some major, some major issues 86 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 4: internally with players and staff as well, trying to organize 87 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 4: logistics around family, old care and basically uprooting their lives 88 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 4: for twenty four to forty eight hours to make sure 89 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: this game goes ahead. So people may argue the merits 90 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 4: of whether the game should have gone on, Dan and proceeded. 91 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: Who knows, maybe the NURL may reverse their decision in 92 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: the next twenty four hours, given if there is more fallout, 93 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 4: but as it stands right now, the Dolphins are proceeding. 94 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 4: I spoke to Christian Wolf, the coach, just a couple 95 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 4: of hours ago, and he said, look, the show's going on. 96 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: He's heading to the airport. 97 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 4: So whatever, even if there are mass withdrawals, guys, there 98 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 4: will be a seventy Mare Dolphins team ready to play 99 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 4: on Friday night. 100 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: Thank you Bomby, Thank you for the inside information. Always 101 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: got your finger on the pulse. Now that is big 102 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: news coming out of Brisbane and the Dolphins. 103 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: Now, this is a tough one. 104 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: It's a tricky one because as players, families, kids involved. 105 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: But you've also got the NRL who have done everything 106 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: they possibly can in a short period of time coming 107 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: off the back of Vegas to relocate this. 108 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: Game to make sure that it continues. 109 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 2: It's hard to please everyone here. But where do we 110 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: find ourselves and what do we think of this situation? 111 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 7: A huge news break given the fact that there could 112 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 7: be four or five players in all likelihood missing from 113 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 7: that game. Well, if the Dolphins end up missing the 114 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 7: eight by two points, then all of a sudden, this 115 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 7: scenario becomes so critical, but your heart goes out to 116 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 7: all the people in Queensland that are obviously going through 117 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 7: and preparing for what's going to be an extremely tough 118 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 7: and difficult time. By the same token, I think the 119 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 7: NROL need to be commended because we've seen, in terms 120 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 7: of the leadership of Peter Landi's and Andrew Abdo that 121 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 7: they are extremely agile, extremely nimble when it comes to 122 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 7: these types of circumstances. We saw it throughout COVID, we're 123 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 7: seeing it again now. The fact that the game is 124 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 7: going ahead I think is a win. But at the 125 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 7: same time, now that we find out four or five 126 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 7: players could be absent, big. 127 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: News I think. 128 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 8: I think the doll perst have shifted from the original 129 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 8: decision just over twenty four hours ago, with which I 130 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 8: applaud wholeheartedly, the same as Hoops as far as the 131 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 8: NFL moving to keep this game on and in my 132 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 8: original thought was, these guys are well plaid rugby league's players, 133 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 8: professional athletes. They've got a job to do and for 134 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 8: that is they travel to Sydney and play the game 135 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 8: the end. 136 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 9: However, when you. 137 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 8: Have five players and that's only now potentially pulling out 138 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 8: of a match. Peak touched on it. It's now an 139 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 8: unfair advantage. It is because it is now the worst 140 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 8: possible preparation going into a Round one match you could 141 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 8: ask for for a professional sporting organization. It does raise 142 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 8: the prospect of whether this game will be postponed. 143 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: Now. 144 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 6: It is unfortunate. 145 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 5: It is terribly unfortunate and not fair the Warriors when 146 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 5: a whole season where they had four or five players 147 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 5: that didn't even come across because of COVID its circumstances. 148 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 6: There's nothing. I don't think there's anything. 149 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 5: More the NFL can do, but they made the decision 150 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 5: Dave on a Tuesday for a Friday game. 151 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 8: Completely different scenario with COVID, everyone was in the same boat. 152 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 8: I appreciate the Warriors, you know they were, but at 153 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 8: least their opposition were also wrapped up in a bubble 154 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 8: as well. 155 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 9: See how Sydney had a sweet preparation. 156 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 8: They're fine, they haven't even had to come out of 157 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,679 Speaker 8: playing in Sydney. It's a bonus. And now five players 158 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 8: have pulled out of the Dolphins. I think it raises 159 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 8: the prospect of whether this should be postponed. 160 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: Let's move on. It's a tough one. It won't be postponed. 161 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: The game will go ahead and it's very unfortunate for 162 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: the Dolphins. Hopefully somehow those players can make their way 163 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: down and play, but it's not looking likely at the 164 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: moment now. Jason Ryles round one nightmare. Can you believe it? 165 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: Now he signs on with the Eel. He's had a 166 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: great offseason for more reports heads in Melbourne against Craig Bellamy, 167 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: who's got the best record in the game possibly, I 168 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: think in the history of the game for round one 169 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: games and Moses his key playmaker, has been ruled out. 170 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: Not the best way to start dan No. 171 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 5: Their record is miserable without him since twenty twenty one paramatter. 172 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 6: Eight to nineteen. When Mitch Moses doesn't. 173 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 5: Play, it's look, I suppose it's best get this game 174 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 5: out of the way. 175 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 6: You're playing Melbourne down there. 176 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 5: It's probably right now given Penrith don't have a home ground. 177 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 6: It's the hardest, as Simon, in all of rugby league. 178 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 6: The expectations on. 179 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 5: Paramatta won't be that high surely, and this will be 180 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 5: a forgive run even if they get lapped. 181 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 6: It's game one. 182 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 5: We're not going to expect miracles are with him, Jason 183 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 5: roll straight away, it's going to take a little bit. 184 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: It's actually a good point you're making. 185 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: It's probably less pressure on him heading down there now 186 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: because no one expects them to win. I want to 187 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: touch more on the injury now of Mitchell Moses. Last 188 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: night I asked bulld or Richie how the severity of it. 189 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: He wasn't sure, he said, you know, they didn't know themselves. 190 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 2: Have you got heard any more over the last twenty 191 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: four hours. 192 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 193 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 7: Look, it's his left foot, Braith, and he broke that 194 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 7: foot last year. In the process of that healing, he 195 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 7: had a screw inserted into the foot and it's obviously healed. 196 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 7: He came back and played, was crucial in that State 197 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 7: of Origin series where he tore his by set, but 198 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 7: the foot wasn't an issue over the summer. Throughout the 199 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 7: course of the training preseason, he started to get some 200 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 7: sawness where the screw is and where that bone had healed, 201 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 7: and as a result of that is now in a 202 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 7: situation where he didn't play any trial games. He had 203 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 7: his loads lightened because he had some issues around the 204 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 7: saunas and now we're not playing he's not playing this 205 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 7: weekend and the Eels are saying it's indefinite as to 206 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 7: when he returns, which that's the biggest concern for me. 207 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 7: Whenever people say indefinite, well, there's no time frame. 208 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: Has he had skins skin and have we got the 209 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 2: results back yet, because that's the most important thing. 210 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 9: Absolutely. 211 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 8: Look, as of ten minutes before coming on air's still 212 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 8: no results from scans taken on Mitch's foot. 213 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 9: Now, to Hoops's point, there's this trepidation from the Eels 214 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 9: to go out and declare what the severity of this 215 00:09:58,520 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 9: injury is. 216 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 8: I will say this as of team this Tuesday morning, 217 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 8: they were still considering naming Mitche So that gives me 218 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 8: some indication that it might not be full blow and serious. 219 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 9: However, far from ideal. 220 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 8: It's the worst possible result, the captain and leader of 221 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 8: this football team going on a road trip to Melbourne. 222 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: All Right, we've got Benny Elias, Mitch's uncle, coming on 223 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: later on the show, so we'll get hopefully some more 224 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: inside information there. Now, what about Dylan Brown and his contract. 225 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: There's a bit of pressure on him now heading into 226 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: round one. Na Mitchell Moses, we'll get to that a 227 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: little bit later on the contract stuff. But this is 228 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: his opportunity to really stand up and deliver. Right, Dan, Well, 229 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: I don't. 230 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 6: Want to be a Stax machine, but I'll give you 231 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 6: another one. 232 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: I go again there, I'll give you another one again. 233 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 5: When they're together, Moses and Brown sixty three percent. When 234 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 5: Brand doesn't have Moses and he's in the halves, nine wins, 235 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 5: eighteen losses thirty three percent. 236 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 10: Is that that is critical? 237 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: Is that. 238 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 7: I can't believe how much time you're spending in the 239 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 7: lab that start scam. However, that is extremely pertinent because 240 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 7: if you're going to be a million dollar player, you 241 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 7: know both We've all said it, adnors him on this 242 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 7: program over the years, you have to be able to close. 243 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 10: He's a big game. 244 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: He could be getting one point three million dollars for 245 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 2: ten years, the biggest deal in the history of the game. 246 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: So is this the time the moment to show us 247 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 2: that it's worth It's extraordinary? 248 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 9: Other cards fall right, like. 249 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 8: This is the player that his management, Dylan's management believe 250 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 8: can go to Newcastle and run that team. Now we've 251 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 8: spoken about it as far as he hasn't had to 252 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 8: do that before. It's so much uncertainty about going to 253 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 8: a football club and banking on him leading your team around. 254 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 9: When he hasn't done it. Had to do it at 255 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 9: Paramatta with Mitch Moses there. 256 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 7: I'd even argue Dave that he has had to do 257 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 7: it at stages. He had to do it last year 258 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 7: when Mitch was injured, and the sample size that we've 259 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 7: got wasn't great. The cards didn't fall overly well for Dylan. 260 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 7: He's a brilliant runner of the foot all is a 261 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 7: strong defender, but in terms of being an organizing game 262 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 7: managing half, I don't think he really ticks those boxes. 263 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 5: Housk you growth because I think you can relate to this, right, 264 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 5: So you hit the ground running. You played for Australia 265 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 5: very quickly. You're about one. I remember you signed a 266 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 5: big deal for the Bulldogs. You're an in demand player. 267 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 6: What did that do to you? What did that pressure? 268 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 5: It's a lovely problem to have, yes, but with and 269 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 5: I remember the amount of money. It wasn't one point 270 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 5: three million, but at the time it was significant time. 271 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 5: What does that do to a young player? 272 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: Well, you just got to look at the likes of 273 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 2: Niko Hines, right, he's a little bit older and what 274 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: he's gone through at the moment. 275 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: Straight away, it puts the bulls on your head, There's 276 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. 277 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,239 Speaker 2: There's expectation, the magnifying glasses on you with every performance. 278 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: If your team succeeds, you're a genius. If you lose 279 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: your fault, you know, and you know that, and as 280 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: a young guy, it really has an effect on your 281 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: confidence and knocks you around. And if you don't deliver, 282 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 2: then you can fall off the perch pretty quickly. So 283 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 2: it is high pressure, and you know, and these days 284 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: it's even more pressure because you've got social media, You've 285 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: got it's I mean, it's triple the amount of money 286 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 2: you offered. 287 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: Back then as well, so the money's gone up. 288 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: And the exposure the game that the viewership, everything, you know, 289 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: you can't escape it. 290 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: There is no escaping it. So when you take on. 291 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: These big deals, you have to accept that the pressure 292 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: and expectation come with it. 293 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: It's it's hard work, it really is. 294 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 2: But you know, the greades of our game they get 295 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: through it and they and they deliver, you know, And 296 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: that's the difference. 297 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: And I think that's what brings us. 298 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: Back here to Dylan is is he at that level yet? 299 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: Is he at that elite level where he commands that 300 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 2: kind of money? You know, really, if you sit back, 301 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: you say no, right, but if he wants to prove 302 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: it again, brings us back to this moment in time, 303 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: you know, this is this is this is a moment 304 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: for him to do that. 305 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 7: He's never going to get a better opportunity to shut 306 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 7: all of us up than to go out, lead the team, 307 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 7: dominate and win again Melbourne and break Craig Bellamy's incredible 308 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 7: round one streak. 309 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 10: Do we think it will happen? Probably not. 310 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 7: They're up against it. And in terms of the highest 311 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 7: paid player in the history of the game, he's got 312 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 7: to be able to show in these crucial clutch moments 313 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 7: that he can do it. 314 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 10: And he hasn't. 315 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 7: He's been highly inconsistent. He is a brilliant player, flashes 316 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 7: the brilliance everywhere over the course of his career. Has 317 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 7: he done it for twenty six rounds or in a 318 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 7: final series? 319 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: When you think of John's you think are first and 320 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: there guys that if there are other halves, clearly now, 321 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: if there are other house partners out, you don't blink 322 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: and I may deliver. Eels recruit Zach Lomax is hoping 323 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: Dylan Brown stays put in paramounta. 324 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 11: There's so much annoying around you are what are you 325 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 11: going to do in the future or a future sort 326 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 11: of up in the air, or you've already decided to 327 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 11: remind it's a part to ignore that external noise. 328 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 12: I tend he is his motivation, and I think for 329 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 12: for Dil there's there's every reason that he'd have a 330 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 12: whole week of speculation around him is because he's such 331 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 12: a great player, and you know, us as teammates obviously 332 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 12: want him to be here because they're a much better 333 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 12: team when he's in it. As I said, he builds 334 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 12: a lot of speculation because he's such a great a 335 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 12: great player, and you know, I Fingercoss is going to 336 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 12: be here. I think he'll be here, and I don't 337 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 12: think he'll leave Mitchell or or the boys here. And 338 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 12: he's a Wessie at heart, So I'm sure Deal's going 339 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 12: to go out and put in a good performance for us, 340 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 12: and it's a great opportunity for him this week as well. 341 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: Teammate Zach Lomax doesn't want him to go obviously, just 342 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: got there and he doesn't think he'll go. Let's talk 343 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: more about Newcastle and what the offer actually is. 344 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: Why are they offering this much money. 345 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: We've talked about Paramounter, We've talked about Dylan's what's. 346 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: The game with Newcastle? 347 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 8: So it's a ten year deal worth one point three 348 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 8: million dollars a season, which we've indicated will become the 349 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 8: richest deal in history of the game. Thirteen million dollars. 350 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 8: We've spoken about also to boys that what to the 351 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 8: other ten year deals in the game. Jason Tamalalo for 352 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 8: SU Malawi on ten year deals haven't reached the figures 353 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 8: of this magnitude. What a Newcastle need him because they're 354 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 8: struggling to sign a market player and they need two things. 355 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 8: One they need a big signing. Secondly, they need to 356 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 8: keep Calum Ponger at the club. 357 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 7: There's plenty of people in the game at the moment 358 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 7: who will tell you that they think Brown is as 359 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 7: good as gone. He will not be at PARAMOUNTA next year. 360 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 7: Money talks all languages. Thirteen million dollars to set yourself 361 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 7: up your life. I can understand why that has turned 362 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 7: Dylan's head and why he absolutely and Yels. 363 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: Are who would turn anywhere. 364 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 10: Of course it would, of course I would. 365 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 5: It's power thirteen have these bonkers clauses that he's going. 366 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 5: Good luck to him and his management for getting all 367 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 5: those silly clauses in there. That's incredible, an incredible bit 368 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 5: of negotiating. 369 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 6: Does this no clauses in this one? 370 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 7: It's a good question. Yes, there are some towards the 371 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 7: back end of it. Now I don't know the exact details, 372 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 7: but I was told this today. Certainly there's a theory 373 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 7: in the Paramatta camp that there are some clauses towards 374 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 7: the back end. I think they're mutual. I think they 375 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 7: go both ways. The club. There's an option in the 376 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 7: club's favor, there's an option in the player's favor for 377 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 7: the last couple of seasons. 378 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 5: What about the money factor? Is this what do you 379 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 5: call it? These ratchet and there's a ratchet clause in there? 380 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 5: Because I think we're in for an astronomical ride twenty 381 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 5: twenty seven, twenty twenty eight, when the new television deal comes, 382 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 5: a cap will go and there might be another television 383 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 5: deal before that. This Brown contract games and you're telling 384 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 5: you do we. 385 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 2: Have a ratchet cause too? That was We spoke about 386 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 2: this in Vegas. We touched on it quickly our first show. 387 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that one point three with a ratchet cause. 388 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: So again, as Dan was just alluding to, if the 389 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: salary cap goes up, which it will, his contract goes. 390 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: Up as well. 391 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 6: Who's his manager? 392 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm going to bring up his 393 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: number my deals up this year. 394 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 6: You're giving them a run. 395 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 9: You talk about clauses, and it's really interesting. 396 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 8: I understand there's an appetite if Dylan knocks back the 397 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 8: huge money and shows loyalty to paramatter. The Eels do 398 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 8: have an appetite to play with those current clauses going 399 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 8: forward in his contract, maybe remove them to keep him 400 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 8: at the club long term on a new deal. 401 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: So okay, fair enough. 402 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: Been a big off season for the Roosters, but coach 403 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: Trent Robinson is putting on the great faith. 404 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 6: Trent is this season learn is the most challenging. 405 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: You're cotching career. 406 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 13: No, No, it's just an exciting season. Looking forward to 407 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 13: this year. There's a lot being made about, you know, 408 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 13: what we don't have, but you know, the guys that 409 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 13: step into those roles have been here for a while so. 410 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 6: Looking forward to the season. 411 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 4: Banking on youth and experience to play to the same 412 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 4: level as the bloodshed lost. 413 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 3: No, that's not how it works. 414 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 9: You sort of seen your players step up. 415 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 13: They're a year older, they play more games, they take 416 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 13: on those leadership roles. 417 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 3: So it's really about that. 418 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 13: Crew taking on that role and then yeah, you give 419 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 13: time for those young guys, give you energy. 420 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: And he spent nothing less from Robo, one of the 421 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: great coaches, really just focusing on the positive and the 422 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: players that he's got in front of him. But as 423 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 2: you can see here, there is still a major concern 424 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 2: regardless of what coach Trent Robinson says. 425 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: Jared Luke, Keary Marnu, I can go on. 426 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: The list goes on, but look at the bottom there 427 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: the total of NRL games missing one thousand, two hundred 428 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: and seventy eight just over the preseason. 429 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: That is astronomical too. 430 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 5: They didn't need, they didn't need expense of Lenu being 431 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 5: unavailable as well. 432 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 6: That was just the icing on the cake for this game. 433 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 5: I can't believe we're talking about odds here, but they 434 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 5: are being undersold, aren't they. 435 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 6: Everyone just expects Brisbane to run through them. 436 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: Tomorrow. 437 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 6: I just want to they've still got some class in 438 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 6: there to Are they as good? No, of course they're 439 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 6: not as good. They've still got players that know how 440 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 6: to win. 441 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 7: I just look at that list that was on the 442 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 7: screen a minute ago, Dan and the amount of experience 443 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 7: from Jared up the top there Strike in the middle. 444 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 7: With Manu and Joseph Sulia the key playmaker and Sammy 445 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 7: Walker out for the majority of the season, I think 446 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 7: the Roosters are absolutely pushing it uphill to make the 447 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 7: eight this year. I think this is the greatest challenge 448 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 7: of Trent Robinson's coaching career and I do think that 449 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 7: Brisbane will handle them tomorrow night. 450 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 2: I did it with a few of the power breakers 451 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: of the Roosters in Vegas though quite tight lift. But 452 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: you've had a conversation with a few maybe over the 453 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: past twenty four hours. 454 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: They concerned or not. 455 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 8: But there's certainly they're remaining quite bullish in regards to Robot, 456 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 8: specifically about Robot, because we know that the noise is 457 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 8: going to the drums will start to beat if the 458 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 8: Roosters start to lose a few games. 459 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: But at this point, now what the drums haven't over 460 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: the like I'm talking over the years, he's had a 461 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 2: lot of success, but he has gone through a couple 462 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 2: of you know, you know, not many. 463 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 10: In fairness, he's won three hits the finals once. 464 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 2: Totally and he should be given time and respect. There's 465 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: no doubt about that. 466 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 8: That's what's not even That's why it's not even a 467 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 8: discussion point at the Roosters at this. 468 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: But you believe this year though, it's this year that 469 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: the Drums will be. 470 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 8: Well, not only off back of losses brave, but that's 471 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 8: that's the. 472 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: Game I'm talking. 473 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 8: If they do lose, I still think they'll I think 474 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 8: I'll stay staunch, I really do, regardless of because of 475 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 8: what Hoops mentioned, that record is enough to get Robbo 476 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 8: through and. 477 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: Just the season. 478 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 9: I don't think. 479 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 8: Look, guys, I don't think the roster for overhaul of 480 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 8: the Roosters has coming to some a great surprise. 481 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 9: But it's not. It's the fact that they missed Dave 482 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 9: for feeder. 483 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: That's not just that. 484 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 9: Being tipped out. 485 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 6: They're the changes. 486 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 7: Do you think they've recruited, Well, no, I think that 487 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 7: This is one of the big question. 488 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 9: Smith was a fail. 489 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 7: This is one of the big issues is It's probably 490 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 7: the elephant in the room around the Chucks in the 491 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 7: air of recruitment and retention. Normally, they are absolutely up 492 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 7: the top of the tree in terms of rival and 493 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 7: RL clubs. If they want to buy or sign a player, 494 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 7: they go out, they have a benchmin they get it done. 495 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 7: This time around the last three to four years, recruitment 496 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 7: and retention, I think that's where they've made some poor decisions. 497 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 7: There's been a variety of different reasons why. The Brandon 498 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 7: Smith signing has been well documented about a lot of 499 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 7: the problems that have gone wrong there. We're going to 500 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 7: talk about that later. But I really do believe it's 501 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 7: the biggest challenge in Robbo's career, and I do genuinely 502 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 7: think that from what we saw of them in the trials, 503 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 7: I think it's going to be a tough season. 504 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 6: Your expectations are lower, right. 505 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 10: Of course they are so, but it's a rooster's dand. 506 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: Tolerate not expects this year. 507 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, but that's not the point you've just sat there. 508 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 8: They still have some decent players. There'll be plenty of 509 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 8: other coaches in the comp that would love to desco Crichton, 510 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 8: Radley Colin's Daniel Tupo, Dom Young. 511 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, doubled a lot, So we're not crying Paul here. 512 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: What's a past mark? 513 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 6: I think top aight's a good result. Do you not 514 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 6: agree to That's a pretty good. 515 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: Year, which is unusual, right, but for the Roosters, But 516 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: I think if they make the top eight, it's a part. 517 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 5: If they had Sam Walker available all year, to a 518 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 5: lesser extent, Smith, then expectations would be high for what 519 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 5: they're up against. 520 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 6: Top eight's pretty I know it's the Roosters, but top 521 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 6: eight's pretty good. 522 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, top. 523 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 7: It's definitely an enormous win for the club. 524 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 10: I think this. 525 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: Season let's get more into the Brendan Smith situation. What 526 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 2: is going on in the NBA. We're hearing rumors, Well, 527 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: we know that he won't be there next year. Yeah, 528 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 2: do we know where he may be heading? 529 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 7: The Roosters tell Brandon some time ago, obviously when they 530 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 7: signed rest Robson that we won't be extending you beyond 531 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 7: twenty twenty five. This is a fascinating narrative break because 532 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,479 Speaker 7: we know how much the rooms in South Sydney loathe 533 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 7: one another. But I think that the Bunnies are absolutely 534 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 7: having a look at Brandon. I wouldn't be surprised if 535 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 7: a coach like Wayne Bennett and his track record of 536 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 7: being able to fix players who things might have gone 537 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 7: a little bit sideways for and they might need a 538 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 7: little bit of a cuddle. 539 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 10: And perhaps things have. 540 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: Gone with Murray going down too right with that Achilles 541 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 2: and he's had some injuries the past couple of years. 542 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: And the middle forward. 543 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 2: I see him more as a middle forward with late footwork, powerful, 544 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: quick play the ball, I think, and you can play 545 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: at nine wherever they want to play him, and they're 546 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: sure to nine in the South if Mademoisella's doesn't become 547 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: the player they want him to be, or for Philly's potential, 548 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 2: there's there's a couple of positions that he could play 549 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: at the Bunny's that's an interesting one. 550 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: Well. 551 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 10: The funny thing is this time last year. 552 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 7: It was raised during the middle of last year and 553 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 7: Nick Polaitis and Bus the Roosters went absolutely no way, 554 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 7: that's the Souths. But I get the impression as though 555 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 7: that tune might have changed a little bit. 556 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 6: Now, yeah, there's a little bit more. 557 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 2: But maybe it's on purpose. Maybe there's a little you know, 558 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. I want to go to further with that. 559 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 9: Hoops his males spot on. 560 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 8: It's the increasing talk within the game that Brandon Smith's 561 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 8: on his way to Sydney. He's on his way there. 562 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 8: That's that's the discussion, And for me, I still see 563 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 8: it as a risk. Now, I'm not one hundred percent 564 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 8: sure on the salary that is being put forward, but. 565 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 9: For me, it's still a risk. 566 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 8: And when you think about Sydney situation, they're backing Peter 567 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 8: Mamazula's to play in the dummy half role. Saliva Harvili 568 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 8: is that rotating dummy half plays. 569 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 9: A little bit power forward like Brandon does. 570 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 8: But for everything we've spoken about the Roosters, we've spoken 571 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 8: about the recruitment, they got this one wrong. 572 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 9: So why is it going to be right at sour Sydney. 573 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 2: That's a good point that you make, and I suppose 574 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: time will tell. Now, Michael will I image sorry at the 575 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: gym this morning, training nice and down there at Kuldjie. 576 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: But there's been some criticism. 577 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: Of one of our penalists on this show and a 578 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: few others about how hard he trains. He has been 579 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: training the Broncos. He's hit back hoops. 580 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 581 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 10: I spoke to Madge today. 582 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 7: He's loving life at the Broncos and loving the challenge 583 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 7: in front of him, but asked him about the fact 584 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 7: that Buzz, who we all like and respect, had said 585 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 7: that he'd heard that Madge might have been overcooking his players. 586 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 10: This was the response. 587 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 7: Do you think Penrith and Melbourne are training soft over 588 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 7: the preseason? They've never spewed in their lives, They've never 589 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,959 Speaker 7: done a tough session. Bloody hell, it's all bullshit. I 590 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 7: have a grin on my face now when I. 591 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 10: Hear that stuff. 592 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 7: It's a fair gay the two teams who've been rolling 593 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 7: around in Grand finals for however long it is Penreth 594 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 7: and Melbourne. Everyone talks about how crazy their preseasons are, 595 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 7: but someone else does it. I know you're training the 596 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 7: players too hard now. 597 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 10: Look, Madge was in a mood. 598 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 7: He was saying that a little bit tongue in cheek, there's. 599 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 10: A bit of venom in that though there he is, 600 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 10: there is some pepper. 601 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 7: I tend to think that Madge has had enough of 602 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 7: this assertion that because he was branded with it at 603 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 7: the Bunnies, followed him to the Tigers and now here 604 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 7: has raised its head at the broncos I love it 605 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 7: over the summer that break. You can't sit around playing 606 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 7: lawn balls and you're not going to win comps rolling 607 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 7: out the picnic rug and passing out around. 608 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: I can't comprehend it. 609 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 2: Like we trained the Bulldogs harder than anyone else. When 610 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 2: I was back, she used to kill it and we 611 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: were in the finals every year one our premiership could 612 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: have won more. And the Roosters were our heavyweight opponents, 613 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: our opposition. They did the same, Like you don't get 614 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 2: to the top from not training hard. 615 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: You just don't do it. And all this bullshit really 616 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: that you're here. 617 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 2: Coming out from the media saying he's flogging them and 618 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: the players are unhappy. 619 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 6: I'm going to defend my man Buzz. 620 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 5: On this school to do I know well, Firstly, I 621 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 5: remember Gordy in his book wrote about a camp in 622 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 5: two thousand, right, and he said, I've never been flogged 623 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 5: that hard in my life. And that's where we won 624 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 5: the comp in February. As the game changed that much 625 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 5: in twenty five years, I don't think so. Right, it 626 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 5: was professional then, it's professional now. But you can't judge 627 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 5: this until the last couple of months of the season 628 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 5: if they fade. 629 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 6: Now, hang on, buzz has got a point. 630 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 5: Now Brisbane will unbelievable the way they looked in the trials. 631 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: Buzzes saying they're not going to make the top eight. 632 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 6: Well, OK, I'm not defending my man Buzz on that. 633 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 6: I'll defend my man buzz. 634 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 10: Disagree a buzz on me. 635 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I did better than the top. 636 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 5: But don't go chips in until we see how they 637 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 5: end their season, particularly when. 638 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 8: The criticism about the Broncos over the past couple of 639 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 8: seasons is their soft underbelly. So Madge's got up there 640 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 8: with a job to do, and yeah that starts in 641 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 8: the preseason. 642 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely no doub We had two players on you last 643 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 2: night and they couldn't believe it, one from Saint George 644 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: and one from the West Tigers. 645 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,239 Speaker 1: So for me, that says it all. 646 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: Think you Hoops said you dave up next with the 647 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: Legends agenda with Benny Alias and Steve Back a roach