WEBVTT - #2129 The Life Classroom - Harps & Tiff

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Team Craig Anthony Harper is my name. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>another installment for you project your favorite, second, third, fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>fifth favorite show. I'm sure welcome, Welcome, welcome. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you're good. I hope you have a good day today.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's early, if it's late, I hope you had

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<v Speaker 1>a good day. Someone who hasn't had a good day

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<v Speaker 1>or two of late. But she's coming good, which is

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<v Speaker 1>good because we don't like her sick, because she's no

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<v Speaker 1>use to me. I don't care about a health, just

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<v Speaker 1>a productivity. Let's be honest. Ha ha ah. The productive

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<v Speaker 1>one is still a seven out of ten, but yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>she was a two, so absolutely no value at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Tiff Cookai, Hi, Look, the beauty is sometimes I tend

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<v Speaker 2>to go down hard and fast, but I bounce back

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<v Speaker 2>hard and fast too.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon, Well, I think you're quite resilient because you

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<v Speaker 1>were you know, you're a little pugilist at heart, among

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<v Speaker 1>other things. So you're a fighter. You're a fighter. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't wave the white flag. But what was interesting was

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<v Speaker 1>it yesterday that we did Mick Hall, that we recorded yep,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the start of the podcast you were okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and then but we were on because there was a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of pre and post chatting, and by the time

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<v Speaker 1>we got to the end of the chat the recording,

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<v Speaker 1>you could hardly string four words together and it looked

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<v Speaker 1>like you had fucking influenza twenty seven. And he was

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<v Speaker 1>just and You're like, as soon as we stopped recording,

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, I feel shit out, so I've got to go.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you're gone, go on.

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<v Speaker 2>I had another one lined up that I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be and I was like, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to make that one.

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<v Speaker 3>I went, I went down hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that would have killed you, that one, because that

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<v Speaker 1>was an hour and a half with Chezy Dana and

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<v Speaker 1>might I say, all right before we jump into that,

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<v Speaker 1>so what what do you have or what did you

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<v Speaker 1>have or what were your symptoms?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? Just well just a cold really, but a very headache.

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<v Speaker 2>I did a COVID test. Wasn't COVID, Maybe an influenza.

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<v Speaker 3>I just thought it was cold.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was a bit headache the whole time. And

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<v Speaker 2>then yesterday, so here's this. Yesterday morning, I'd gone to

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<v Speaker 2>the gym just to do a light session. I did

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<v Speaker 2>some squats, they weren't heavy. I did some hip thrust

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<v Speaker 2>and after two sets of hips thrusts, I had to

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<v Speaker 2>go home because I felt like someone was sitting on

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<v Speaker 2>my chest, like my lungs felt quite sinister, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, this is something's not good here, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's.

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<v Speaker 3>The state of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, a sick body is a stressed body, and

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<v Speaker 1>strength training is another kind of stress. So we're putting

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<v Speaker 1>stress on a system that is already stressed. And being

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<v Speaker 1>the alpha female slash male slash unicorn that you are,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like a good idea until you get in

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<v Speaker 1>the gym and your body's picking up the middle finger

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<v Speaker 1>at you go and fuck you go home and rest.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not doing this. Yeah yeah, But also when you're

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<v Speaker 1>like you and me, which is probably a little bit rational,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit obsessed, well how obsessed? A little okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Um am not? You are? Fuck off? What are you

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<v Speaker 1>looking at? You know? So there have been many times

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<v Speaker 1>in my life when I've just yeah, I'm the same,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm better now that I'm older, I'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit wiser and allegedly and being able to have a

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<v Speaker 1>day off when I actually need a day off. That's

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<v Speaker 1>quite groundbreaking for me. As you know there are not

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<v Speaker 1>too many days in a year where I don't go

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<v Speaker 1>and lift stuff. But I was going to say to you,

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<v Speaker 1>like you've been telling me and your audience and my

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<v Speaker 1>audience a while, that you just I think you said

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<v Speaker 1>it on yesterday's show, which will be out soon, or

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday's recording with Mikhor by the way, everyone, if you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't heard that, go back to it. I mean, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>do what you want, ignore me. But I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was a really good chat. I liked it. It was

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<v Speaker 1>about being a late starter, some really good stuff in that,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people lately there seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>a disproportionate number of people who are fatigued, Like every

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<v Speaker 1>second person. I'm like, is just more physical than anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but I guess emotional and psychological and stress and what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in the world. And petrol is nineteen thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a leater and everyone's like, fuck, I've got no

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<v Speaker 1>dough and everything goes to fortune and will we still

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<v Speaker 1>be here in three years? And AI is fucking melting

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<v Speaker 1>my brain and social media is killing my kids, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a bit of overwhelmed I think going on a

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<v Speaker 1>little which is not hard to understand.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I have been.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm waiting for blood test results for iron levels, but

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<v Speaker 2>I have just been, as you know, with my hormones

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<v Speaker 2>and everything, fatigued for a year and just just gets

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where you go, well, I've rested and

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<v Speaker 2>I've changed this, and I've changed that, and I've done this,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've done that, and I've had some wins.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, and then you you know, I think you're

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<v Speaker 3>right though, there's a lot in the world where you

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<v Speaker 3>have to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, how much of this is just coming from lifestyle

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<v Speaker 2>and input, the input of the world and the cognitive

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<v Speaker 2>mode of just existing today.

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<v Speaker 1>And also you as an individual versus old mate, versus

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy versus John Nancy Nancy's eighty. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>she listens. Nancy. If you do, God bless your Have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever been a Nancy that's younger than forty? Reach

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<v Speaker 1>out if you're Nancy and younger than forty, fucking well done.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like Craigs. Has there been in the last five

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<v Speaker 1>year years in Australia a baby called Craig? Absolutely not?

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<v Speaker 1>Like imagine holding up a six or seven pound gorgeous

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<v Speaker 1>little human just fucking just slid out of the nest,

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<v Speaker 1>just fucking ready for life. What do you think, Dale? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>What about Craig? Oh fucking music to my ears, let's

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<v Speaker 1>go with that. Fucking I'm still mad at my parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not even being funny. It's that I fucking

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<v Speaker 1>hate my name. God, the only things that rhymes with

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<v Speaker 1>are plague and vague. So got a fucking awesome start

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<v Speaker 1>to existence. I mean, yeah, just rolls off the tongue.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like honey, It's like verbal honey, fucking Craig ron

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<v Speaker 1>Mary of all the fucking names. You only had one kid,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I mean, you only had one name

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<v Speaker 1>to choose. You had one kid, one kid. All you

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<v Speaker 1>needed to do was come up with one fucking decent name,

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<v Speaker 1>and you went with the one name in the world

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<v Speaker 1>that rhymes with Fagan plague.

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<v Speaker 2>So I remember reading Drunk Tank Pink, and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>section in the of that book where they talk about

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<v Speaker 2>names in the impact of names on people's lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, definitely, Yeah, definitely. I mean I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to name a name like what I think is an

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<v Speaker 1>ugly name. There's a few names I think are ugly,

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<v Speaker 1>but I won't say them because I'm definitely going to

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<v Speaker 1>offend people. But there's some and then there are cool names.

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<v Speaker 1>Again that's totally subjective, but you know it's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I never felt like.

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<v Speaker 2>I matched the name Tiffany. I don't feel like a Tiffany.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you feel like?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Definitely not a Tiffany though, like Tiffany.

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<v Speaker 2>When I went to primary school, there was I remember

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<v Speaker 2>in primary school there was a Arianne and a Priscilla,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, they were quite Ariann and Priscilla, like,

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<v Speaker 2>and I felt like the name Tiffany belonged in that category,

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<v Speaker 2>but I did not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I reckon you need almost one of those

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<v Speaker 1>those guy girl names. You know that's like no, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's like Billy or Tony or Peter with

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<v Speaker 1>an apt Yeah that's a cool that's a cool name.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I met a chick called John j O N. And

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<v Speaker 1>at first I'm like, yep, I'm like, oh weird, And

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<v Speaker 1>like two weeks later I'm like John, what's up? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like and yeah, well one of my friends. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>her name is russ Yes, Russell is her actual name,

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<v Speaker 1>like Mose will be fucking Darren, you know, like and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, so yeah, her husband's Henry and she's Russell.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like what. And when she first became a client,

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<v Speaker 1>so she was one of my clients, and she became

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<v Speaker 1>one of my trainers, and then you know, we've been

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<v Speaker 1>friends for a while and it's like oh yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>then because I've known her thirty five years and she's

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<v Speaker 1>now a grandmother of eight, I introduced her, you know

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<v Speaker 1>to people like if she's at the gym, I go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Russell and people go sorry, and I go Russell.

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<v Speaker 1>They go and then they look at me like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taking the piss. And then I realized, I go, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually that's not me being funny. Weirdly enough, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not me being taken the piss. That is her actual name.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's funny because it's not. No one's going to go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's lovely, you know, help people go that's lovely Brian

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<v Speaker 1>or Casey. Casey's good kind of jewel name.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, I remember years ago when there was a

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<v Speaker 3>friend who had friends.

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<v Speaker 2>That were having a baby and they were in the

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<v Speaker 2>motocross scene and they were two a real cool couple,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were calling their son Buster Jones and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, that is the coolest name for the cool

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<v Speaker 2>kid in the coolest family. But not everyone could pull

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<v Speaker 2>off the name Basta.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, well, no, no, that is that seems like an

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<v Speaker 1>innately ossie name as well. I'm sure someone yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well Knacker's that would be my firstborn Knacker's Harper, and

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<v Speaker 1>the other one if it was a girl. Two dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>so a true blue and you you know who was

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<v Speaker 1>doing pretty well in the creative naming of children's steaks.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember the others, but I think there are

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<v Speaker 1>a few more so River Phoenix, yeah, the actor ye

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<v Speaker 1>who passed away. And Jacquin Phoenix. You know, the dude

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<v Speaker 1>who plays the joker. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>I think like j A c q U, I n

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<v Speaker 1>like Jacquin. That's I've never met a Jacquin. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>met a River. I've swum in a few, never chatted

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<v Speaker 1>with one. And I think there was I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I might be wrong, but yeah, anyway, so you're so,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you like if you could pick your name?

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<v Speaker 1>And you don't need to be definitive, but what would

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<v Speaker 1>get in the top three if you could? If you

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<v Speaker 1>could be an angel and Whisper in mum or Dad's

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<v Speaker 1>ear and influence them.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know. I think I'm terrible. I'd be

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<v Speaker 3>terrible speak about it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I also I wanted to say to you, congratulations, congratulations

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<v Speaker 1>on a thousand episodes of Roll with the Punches. The

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<v Speaker 1>amount of people who and I'm not trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>you or me or anyone sound good or bad, but

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<v Speaker 1>the data is that virtually, like a very very small percentage,

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<v Speaker 1>like less than one percent, get to a thousand episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't get to a thousand episodes. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a good news for you. You can't get to a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand episodes unless you're doing something right, and so you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing lots right. And when you posted that the other day,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of knew you were heading there, but I

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<v Speaker 1>went fucking hell because you only started the podcast last Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, how was you know?

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<v Speaker 3>That's what it was sessions. If there were weekly episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes nineteen years to reach a thousand episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy, isn't it. That's crazy? Yeah? Yeah, Well, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>well done. Thanks, you're producing some really good you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny this morning, Murray, my friend from the cafe,

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<v Speaker 1>this is I'm going to This is full vulnerability, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is not going to make me look good. Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just throwing myself under the bus and elevating you.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's quite biblical because the Bible says he you

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<v Speaker 1>humbles himself will be exult right, So let's see if

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<v Speaker 1>that comes to pass, and he who insults himself will

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<v Speaker 1>be humbled. I've done that a few times. Hey, look

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<v Speaker 1>at me, boom So anyway, Wow, wow, welcome to flem Central. Everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Harps and or if she would like to be

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<v Speaker 1>known Brian.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, noting that time down to cut that golf hand?

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<v Speaker 1>Do that? Do that? Or leave it in? No, leave

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<v Speaker 1>it in, puck it. So Murray came in and he

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about, oh, well think of the moment. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>he started referencing you chatting to someone with on your

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<v Speaker 1>your podcast. I've known him for thirty years. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>fucking listen to mine. I wanted to kick him in

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<v Speaker 1>the dick. I'm like, what are you listening to her show?

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<v Speaker 1>For which I didn't really know. I was glad for you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was insecure and jealous and I just had

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<v Speaker 1>that moment there going one of my mates listens to Tiff,

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<v Speaker 1>but not to me. I don't know. Maybe he listens

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<v Speaker 1>to me. He never tells me. He's never he's never recalled.

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<v Speaker 1>You were having a chat. He recalled some conversation. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know that he listened to podcasts, So

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<v Speaker 1>fuck you, But also well done.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel a million bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you should, and he's quite fond of you. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was having coffee with your big, hairy, tattooed, weird

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<v Speaker 1>looking boyfriend with fingernailed, multicolored fingernails and holes in his ears,

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<v Speaker 1>and also speaking of him. Fuck it, this is people like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this show? I don't know anyway, who Me

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<v Speaker 1>and your bloke took Ron's new electric scooter. So's Ron's,

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<v Speaker 1>which I've shared Ron's my dad and Ron's Ron's got

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<v Speaker 1>Parkinson's and Ron's got lots of mobility challenges. Will say

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<v Speaker 1>at the minutes that probably won't get much better because

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<v Speaker 1>Arkinsass tends not to resolve itself, And so Scottie and

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<v Speaker 1>I he graciously gave up his time and energy and

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<v Speaker 1>we chucked it in the back of his big man van,

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<v Speaker 1>big fucking testosterone man van while my little white lady

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<v Speaker 1>car is sitting in the driveway. I just fucking anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay. I love my lady car. It's fantastic. And no,

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<v Speaker 1>not all ladies drive little cars. I know there's ladies

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<v Speaker 1>out there with big fuck off utes, big fuck off SUVs.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, there's more people in this area. I reckon

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<v Speaker 1>eight out of ten suv drivers the ladies. Anyway, So

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<v Speaker 1>we went up there and we gave Ronni his mobility scooter.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's just say, at this point in time, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you know my dad, do not share this with him,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just say that Ron's perception of his skill versus

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<v Speaker 1>his skill, there's something of a gap, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm right, I'm right, and he's like, like, just it's

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking dodge and car at the moment. But he

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<v Speaker 1>was very excited. And you know what I love. I

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<v Speaker 1>love to see like my dad does not get excited

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<v Speaker 1>about much. And to be honest, you think about someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's eighty six, they've got Parkinson's, their mobility is really limited,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a few other challenges significant that I won't

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<v Speaker 1>mention going on, like, life is not easy, life is

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<v Speaker 1>not fun, life is not convenient, and there's not a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of highlights at the moment, but he was a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit like a kid at Christmas today. So it

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<v Speaker 1>made my heart sing. And your bloke, your bloke has

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<v Speaker 1>got as people would know who've heard Scott Douglas on

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<v Speaker 1>my show and your fucking show. Fucking hell, Tip's got

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast anyway. Hey his I'm just kidding, am I No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just kidding. I'm very proud of you. Yeah, he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's got such good emotional and social intelligence. And because

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<v Speaker 1>he's a paramedic and because he's been around all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of people in all sorts of physical conditions. Yeah, he was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the Scott Show today. I you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>if he could have stayed or me, my mum definitely

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<v Speaker 1>would have picked Scott. She was enamored with him. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like a fucking desert boot and he's a fucking

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<v Speaker 1>red stiletto, you know, so, oh look a new shiny thing. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>he was great. It was great. Ron got his new toy.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he doesn't fucking crash any into anything. But yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so well well done. You who was your thousandth episode?

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<v Speaker 1>I should know?

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, Daviana, actually remember we've spoken about Vianna trans Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the powerlift?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know can you give people? Well, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to give a snapshot and then you correct. So what

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<v Speaker 1>I like about he says he's a man, right, He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't say he's a woman. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>He identifies Yeah, female presenting, calls him well preferred pronouns

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<v Speaker 2>as she obviously, but calls himself a female presenting and

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<v Speaker 2>and a biological man like he's very facts over feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, and I love it because he's like I

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<v Speaker 1>like wearing lippy and makeup and wearing a dress. And

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<v Speaker 1>has he got has he had implants?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And he's had a bunch of facial surgeries now he's

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<v Speaker 2>had like they're quite extensive he's had.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I say he's quite fucking pretty?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It's a blow times better than me, mate.

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<v Speaker 1>I could probably kiss him. I reckon, he's got you covered.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sorry, definitely, Yeah, really down to earth, really like

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a power she's a powerlifter, and she competes

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<v Speaker 1>competes against the dudes because she's like, well, biologically I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, yeah, Like she's not claiming to be a female,

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<v Speaker 1>but rather a biological male who likes to live as

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<v Speaker 1>a female.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and there was the trine of views on youth,

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<v Speaker 2>very very strong us on youth and parenting and schools

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<v Speaker 2>accepting the behavior that is tending to wean its way

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<v Speaker 2>in these days.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm guessing not. And by the way, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>this is obviously a very hot topic and wh're not

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<v Speaker 1>pushing an agenda, so don't send an email. We're just

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a fucking topic. Isn't it funny that you

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<v Speaker 1>can't talk about some things where people will interpret into

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<v Speaker 1>that whatever they think, Oh, you're suggesting or no. If

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<v Speaker 1>I were suggesting, I would say, literally, I'm suggesting this,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not so Yeah, but I gather not a

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<v Speaker 1>big fan of regender reassignment surgery for anyone who's in

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<v Speaker 1>their teens.

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<v Speaker 2>No, definitely not, definitely not talks about the prefrontal cortex

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<v Speaker 2>and their inability to be able to make decisions at

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<v Speaker 2>that time of their life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, amazing. So what's been the what's been has there been? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What's been the hardest part of Like I think we

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<v Speaker 1>can even though we're talking about developing a podcast, but

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<v Speaker 1>we can liken it to developing anything. Like you come

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<v Speaker 1>up with an idea you've got a plan, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to execute the plan. You've got a timeline. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>to produce a certain amount of work every week. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got to find guests. You've got to get good guests.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to have good conversations. You've got to edit it,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to produce it, you've got to write copy

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<v Speaker 1>for it, you've got to publish it. And then in

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<v Speaker 1>the end you want to put up put out something

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<v Speaker 1>to the world that hopefully is somewhere between pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>and fucking amazing, which is what we try and do

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<v Speaker 1>here as well. Of course, what have been some of

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<v Speaker 1>the lessons for you, good or bad?

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, Good lessons I think is just the sheer amount

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<v Speaker 2>of learning that happens unknowingly, So realizing that you don't

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<v Speaker 2>learn more any other way than just getting your hands

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<v Speaker 2>dirty and doing the thing, and the skills I developed,

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<v Speaker 2>and the learning that happened I probably can't even articulate,

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<v Speaker 2>so the transferable.

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<v Speaker 3>Skills to.

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<v Speaker 2>Luck life, but also to my speaking. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be entering into speaking the way I do now

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<v Speaker 2>if I hadn't have had all of this time one communicating,

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<v Speaker 2>holding conversations with a mindset of other people listening and

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<v Speaker 2>other people's experience, but also of one thousand conversations with

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<v Speaker 2>one thousand people who have lived different lives, and you

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<v Speaker 2>sit in that conversation and you listen, and you you develop.

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<v Speaker 2>Your world develops, and your understanding develops because.

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<v Speaker 1>Of that and because you're doing, because you're in the experience.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you're but your mind's all over the joint

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<v Speaker 1>in that you're factoring in. Oh Am I too close

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<v Speaker 1>to the mic? Am I far away from the mic?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this interesting? Have we spoke? Do we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this the other day? Is this repetitive? Is this engaging?

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<v Speaker 1>All the while trying to be genuine and organic? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly there's been no plan today everyone, clearly, But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>constantly thinking about would and some people will hate this chat.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure some people will love it, and there might

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<v Speaker 1>be a bunch of people in the middle. I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's that that willingness to go. If I overthink it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be shit. If I overthink how I

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<v Speaker 1>look or how I sound, or how clever I am,

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<v Speaker 1>or what they think of me, or you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's destructive as well. But at the same time without

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<v Speaker 1>that negative overthinking. You've got to have that in the

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<v Speaker 1>moment's situational awareness and that social awareness. It's like, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I listen to myself and I'm like, am I talking

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<v Speaker 1>too much? Am I listening enough? Am I just waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for tip to shut up? Because I've got a question

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not really listening to what she's currently talking

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<v Speaker 1>about because I've got my next question locked and loaded.

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<v Speaker 1>And then by the time you finish, I'm like, fuck her,

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<v Speaker 1>that question is no good anymore because we've taken a

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<v Speaker 1>left turn and do you know what I mean? And

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<v Speaker 1>you're like and you don't get to ask that. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a fucking brilliant question, which probably wasn't. But

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<v Speaker 1>now you're at another tangent and works out better because

0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 1>you're in flow. You're not in a strategic process like

0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:12.679
<v Speaker 1>you're in flow. And I think if it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>like this is not totally dissimilar, it's not exactly the same,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not totally dissimilar to a conversation you or

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<v Speaker 1>I would have if we were just hanging out somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like talking about your thousandth show, what you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Who'd you do it? With how was it, how's the feedback?

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<v Speaker 1>What has been you know? And like I said, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to think of this as building a podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but taking an idea that you have, like an idea

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<v Speaker 1>that you have, and turning that idea whatever it is,

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:48.640
<v Speaker 1>a business, a program, doing a degree, starting a charity,

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:53.879
<v Speaker 1>losing forty k's putting on ten k's like whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>is as an idea that then something in your head,

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<v Speaker 1>a non physical thing that becomes something that's real in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, which is a physical thing of sorts and

0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:10.399
<v Speaker 1>that people can tune in. There's you know, there's like

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<v Speaker 1>this is real now it's this is a thing in

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<v Speaker 1>your head that's now a thing for everyone in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>What was my long winded question? Yeah, what's been the hardest?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what were you shit at that you had to

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<v Speaker 1>get better at? Ah?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think I think I've probably been shit

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<v Speaker 3>at a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 2>But the pace at which I entered doing this and

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<v Speaker 2>the enthusiasm road those out. So if I look back,

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<v Speaker 2>there'd be times or I could be quite critical. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the hardest thing was that the sense of being so

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<v Speaker 2>critical in the middle of it, Like I haven't and

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<v Speaker 2>it's still to today. I can hold conversations where in

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation I think I am pretty shit and not

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<v Speaker 2>good at this. And for example, yesterday when I recorded

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<v Speaker 2>that episode, I was like, ah, I don't feeling my best,

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 2>and I probably should have canceled this because I think

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I've a really crap at it. But learning to separate

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<v Speaker 2>my emotion in the moment in terms of my perception

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<v Speaker 2>of it and enjoyment of that, separating that from the

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<v Speaker 2>experience that is the podcast and the podcast for the

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<v Speaker 2>other person. And I do that in speaking as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a lot of the time my sense of whether

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 2>something was good is how much I felt like I

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<v Speaker 2>was having fun and I felt confident.

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<v Speaker 1>Hm. And the interesting thing about our mind is that

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm now thinking about whether or not I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>any good, that's where my attention is. Yeah, my attention

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>is not on the show or the person or the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>My attention now, which is borne out of insecurity and

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:11.360
<v Speaker 1>fear and all the things and self doubt and overthinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm in an emotionally driven kind of space in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of this thing that should Yeah, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>I think trying to hit the pause button as quickly

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<v Speaker 1>as you can and regroup, which is I mean, I

0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 1>think that ability in general, that situational awareness, self awareness,

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, even my research stuff. What am I like

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>for the audience right now? Like you want to kind

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:43.119
<v Speaker 1>of have some insight, but you don't want to be

0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>dwelling on it because the moment that you're overthinking and

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 1>dwelling and obsessing your performance is definitely going down. Ironically,

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 1>worrying about your performance makes it worse. Yes, you know,

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>it's like it doesn't worrying about it, It doesn't you know,

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 1>it's like obsessing about the thing you're scared of just

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 1>turns up the volume on the thing you're scared of.

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>So it's this dichotomy between what is happening in your brain,

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>as you said, prefrontal cortex, logical rational brain and your

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 1>emotions and your nervous system. And even though you know

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:23.120
<v Speaker 1>this is not helping, it's almost like, you know, as

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 1>that old chestnut you're Amigdala hijacks your prefrontal cortex. Now

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>my emotions are running the show, specifically fear and self

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>doubt and anxiety, and yeah, so it's that, but that

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 1>is the same with every you know that can be

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you at work when you've got to talk to your boss.

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 1>That could be you in a meeting. That could be

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 1>you in a situation where you're trying to teach your

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 1>kids something but you're so worried about them getting hurt

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 1>that you become a rational and you know, you say

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>shit that you probably resent or you could resent later

0:28:55.120 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>or Yeah. That's that real moment kind of ability to

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>be able to self regulate, yeah, with nobody knowing that

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 1>that's what you're actually doing.

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 2>And what's ironic is that is often one of my

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 2>talking points and things that I workshop is around that

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 2>from the boxing ring, but it's something that I still

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:21.240
<v Speaker 2>need to confront in other areas. It's so funny how

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 2>we do that, where I go, oh, here's this thing,

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 2>here's an example. I can remember how it felt, so

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 2>I can share it with you, I can talk about it,

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 2>and then in the moment as I'm presenting maybe that

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 2>exact idea, I am in the middle of a version

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 2>of it.

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Doing that's Yeah, that's that's a mind fucking itself. But like,

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 1>if you think right about everyone who rants, and I mean,

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 1>you know someone who writes a fucking four or five

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 1>hundred word rants on social media. I was about to

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 1>give a shout out to someone who does it all

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 1>the time. That would be bad. I want to do that.

0:29:56.520 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 1>That would be bad. But it's like, you know that,

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying this is well. I will say

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's a great habit. That's just what

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I think. But I'm not naming a topic or a person,

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>but that you know that they are in that moment.

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>It's emotional and they are thinking obviously through you know,

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:26.520
<v Speaker 1>or seeing things through their lens, and they're navigating the

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 1>words that they're putting on the page with their own

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of beliefs and values and ideas, and this is

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 1>wrong and this is right, and I am right about

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 1>this and they are wrong about that. And I spoke

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 1>about this the other day when I put up a

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 1>post essentially, and I was about, you know, people who

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 1>write on something some big statement I've shared this once before,

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>sorry everyone, but some big proclamation or dissertation about why

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 1>this person's a fucking idiot. You can guess who it

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 1>might often be about, or the world's this, or the

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 1>government's that, or today right, And I get it, like

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I understand why that happen I can totally understand that

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>person's reason while disagreeing one hundred percent with what they're saying. Right. Also,

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 1>I can see someone write or hear someone say something

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>that I really align with, but understand the people that

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>disagree with it. Right. And this is the problem in

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, So there's people right now. I have seen

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>many of them since I wrote this. When I first

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 1>wrote it, it was like I'd seen two people in

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 1>two days say give a big grant, and then at

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>the end they say, if you disagree with me, please

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 1>unfriend me, don't follow me, which is also another way

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 1>of saying I only want people who agree with me

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>to be my friends. I only want people who support

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>my ideology to comment or be on I'm like, I

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 1>think that's a really bad idea. I think you should

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>really be around all kinds of people. If someone thinks

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>that Donald Trump's a genius and you think is you know,

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 1>the Antichrist, that's okay. You don't have to join their team.

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>They don't need to join your team. But it is

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 1>really good to be informed. Now, if you live in

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 1>an echo chamber, a self created echo chamber, guess what,

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 1>you are not informed. You are programmed because you only

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 1>listen to people like you, You only trust and respect

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 1>people like you. Well, one, that's kind of egotistical and arrogant,

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 1>and I understand because it's also it's that, but it's

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 1>also fear. I get it. But the chances are, as

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I've said many times, you are probably wrong about half

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 1>the time. Like if you think something and other people

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 1>think something else, I'm pretty sure you're not one hundred

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 1>percent right all the time and everyone else is zero

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>percent right every time. So you've got to go, let's

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>just be practical, realistic, get out of my ego and

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 1>my fear and my bullshits, and go Have I been

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 1>wrong about things before every day? Yeah? Cool? Have you

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>had really strong, fucking foundational beliefs that was essentially a

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>part of your identity and then you changed? Yes, I've

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>definitely had that. There were things that I would have

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 1>fucking I would have gone to war over, And now

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I think I was a fuck word. I was wrong,

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 1>but I was wrong, And so no one wants to

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 1>go by the way Tiff was right. I was wrong,

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>and without going oh but here's my you know, this

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 1>is no just I was wrong the end, and for

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>people that I misled or I offended. All right, you

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>know whatever, I'm sorry I got it wrong, because you

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>know what, I'm a human and I get things wrong.

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Or I might think the same thing and believe. I'm

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>not saying we shouldn't have hardwired beliefs. I'm not shouldn't

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>saying we shouldn't have opinions. I'm just saying that it's

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>probably a good idea to keep some humility around it.

0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 1>And you know, like everyone thinks they're open minded unless

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>you agree with what they disagree with what they think.

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:16.399
<v Speaker 1>You go, well, you're not open minded. Well, you're open

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 1>minded with things you don't care about or don't know about,

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>but when it comes to the things that you think

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 1>you think are true, then you're closed minded. Ergo, don't

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>follow me, don't talk to me, only follow me if

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 1>you're like me, right, the concept of an awareness bigger

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>than you and really being objective, which is pretty impossible,

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 1>so I'll say that, But truly open minded, that's a

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>real hard gig.

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 2>It's the amount of times I've had conversations with people

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 2>and people that So you and I both talk a

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 2>lot about psychology, and.

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 3>I do a lot of gas adversity in.

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Trauma and our minds and our psyche on the show,

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 2>and I'm fast by it, and I'm fascinated by understanding

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:06.280
<v Speaker 2>why we behave the way we behave and what story

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 2>led to that, And so I'll have these conversations with

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 2>people about that, and the amount of times I've also

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 2>at times had conversations with those same people where they're

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 2>talking about a person and they're judging the behavior, or

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:25.840
<v Speaker 2>they're making comments that disregard everything that has been a

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 2>learning or a point of discussion from these other types

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 2>of conversations. And I'm always astounded by that because i think,

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 2>hang on that, where did that knowledge go or where

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 2>did that understanding, you know, in those previous conversations, and

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 2>now we're just back to judging someone without any account

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 2>to what they might have experienced.

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, and think about even the idea of I

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 1>think objectivity is a confusing like being truly being open minded,

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>which is like where just to arm a blank canvas? No,

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Speaker 1>you're not like I'm talking about this, right, I'm studying this.

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm am I open minded? No in that, let me

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>qualify that. Am I completely open minded? No? Am I

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:22.360
<v Speaker 1>much more open minded? Slash objective slash less concerned with

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:26.839
<v Speaker 1>being right infinitely more than I used to be. I'm

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:28.880
<v Speaker 1>not saying, go me, I'm great, I'm going to I

0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:31.719
<v Speaker 1>just realize, like, if I'm being honest, I've fucked up

0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things. I've done businesses that didn't work.

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I've done speaking engagements that were crap. I've given advice

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 1>that was wrong. I've had meetings that blew up. I've

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 1>had I've had poor outcomes with coaching. I've had why Well,

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>because I'm like everyone, I'm a little bit broken, a

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:54.719
<v Speaker 1>little bit brilliant at times depends, and I get shited wrong,

0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to continue to get shit wrong. And

0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 1>this just this honesty we've gone. I'm going to get

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 1>shit wrong, could be wrong now. But you think about

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the concept of objectivity, is that there is nothing, no

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 1>existing thought, value, belief, personality, trade. You know that that

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:17.239
<v Speaker 1>would influence how you see something. Well, that's just not

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 1>true for anyone, because everyone has got certain beliefs and

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:26.399
<v Speaker 1>ideas and values and expectations and desires and culture and

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:30.239
<v Speaker 1>personality and a unique brain that sees the world a

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 1>certain way. And go on and more and more and more,

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 1>and stories and experiences logged. You know, and I know

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 1>there are certain topics that I won't talk to you

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:42.359
<v Speaker 1>about now, but there are a couple of topics where

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>you fucking fire up in seven seconds. Right. You are

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:50.279
<v Speaker 1>not objective, You are definitely biased, and you definitely have

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 1>a strong and someone else can go but what about this,

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and you be like fuck that because this right, and

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that's cool. That doesn't make you bad, that makes you tiff,

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:02.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, depending on what it is, I would probably

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>do the same. But yeah, that kind of that bigger

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 1>than you awareness, like ah, this is yeah, so this

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:14.080
<v Speaker 1>is like which is I mean, as we said before,

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:17.480
<v Speaker 1>there are some people who might still be hanging in

0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:22.359
<v Speaker 1>here going fuck and how this is so boring talk

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 1>about something interesting for God's sake right now. If you've

0:38:26.560 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 1>still hung in and you think that, well, you're a

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:32.439
<v Speaker 1>glutton for punishment. But then there are other people going,

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:36.359
<v Speaker 1>oh this is this helps me? Like this is interesting

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:39.440
<v Speaker 1>because on a level, we are all the same. We

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 1>all self sabotage, we all get in our way, we

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:44.439
<v Speaker 1>all have moments of brilliance. We all have a moment

0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 1>where we're a prick. We all have a moment where

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:50.839
<v Speaker 1>we're a gift to somebody. Sometimes we do smart things,

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 1>sometimes dumb things. Sometimes we're strategic, sometimes we're emotional. You know,

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 1>we're all looking through our own individual lens at the world.

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 1>There's what's happening, and then there's our story. And so

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:06.359
<v Speaker 1>when you start to understand your own mind and your

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:11.840
<v Speaker 1>own stories and your own kind of bias, like, having

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:15.319
<v Speaker 1>bias is not bad. Having bias is just who we are.

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 1>So I'm quite if I'm being open and honest, I

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>have a Christian bias because I was raised in that,

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, and can I acknowledge that a lot of

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Christian religions, denominations, I should say, under the banner of

0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:38.920
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of the practices and habits and even

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of dogma around Christianity, I think it's bullshit. I

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 1>think it's destructive. Some of it, I think a lot

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 1>of it is beautiful wisdom. But if I'd done a

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:55.280
<v Speaker 1>deep dive into a lot of other religions or traditions,

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:59.279
<v Speaker 1>I would say the same. I'd say, there's stuff in

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 1>here that I don't think so and then there's like,

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>look at this, this is gold. Read this this is transformative,

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>you know. But I'll read something that's transformative and someone

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:11.400
<v Speaker 1>else that will be double dutch.

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:17.480
<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you back on the podcast front,

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:21.799
<v Speaker 2>what was hard for you? But also what has been

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 2>your why Because you've done over two thousand episodes, You've

0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:29.560
<v Speaker 2>done you know, daily for a very long time, and

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 2>that's not easy. And you know, I know that's not

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 2>making millions and millions of dollars. So there's a really

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 2>strong wine I'd love to know.

0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:41.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So for me, it's not a thing. I think

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>it's multiple things. So I'll just start with the the curious.

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 1>So part of its curiosity, part of it's altruistic, part

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:56.440
<v Speaker 1>of its personal development for me, and part of it's

0:40:57.200 --> 0:41:02.879
<v Speaker 1>are strategic and commercial, so not in order of importance,

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>but like, I like meeting people. I like having meaningful conversations.

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 1>And I know that's very cliche, but that is true.

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 1>And I think what other people might not think is

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:19.920
<v Speaker 1>because okay, how do I say this? I think I

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>am operationally, not inherently or genetically, but day to day

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:29.359
<v Speaker 1>operation and function. I think it's not the right word,

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:32.280
<v Speaker 1>but in inverted comm is smarter than when I started

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the show because I've spoken to so many people who

0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 1>have a kind of intelligence or skill or gift or

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 1>awareness or knowledge that I do not have. So I

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 1>always say, hang around with people who drag you up, right, Well,

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that's me every episode, you know. I know it's a

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.400
<v Speaker 1>little been a little bit. Well, I was going to

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 1>say it's been a bit me teacher, you student. But

0:41:56.400 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 1>there have been times when intentionally or not, you've taught

0:41:59.920 --> 0:42:03.920
<v Speaker 1>me things or like full disclosure. We've spoken about this

0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>because we're open books, because you and I are very

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>much almost like pseudo dad daughter or pseudo big brother

0:42:12.160 --> 0:42:15.160
<v Speaker 1>younger sister. Right, so there's been times when you and

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:17.799
<v Speaker 1>I have had the shits with each other. Right, it's

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:20.840
<v Speaker 1>like fuck, you know, fuck you a little bit, not

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 1>in a you know, but we've had to sort through stuff,

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 1>and I've got times where I've kind of I've had

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:30.920
<v Speaker 1>to learn I've had to read the Tifth Manual because

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:34.319
<v Speaker 1>the Craig Manual is not the Tifth Manual. But when

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 1>I talk to you in a way that I might

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:38.720
<v Speaker 1>talk to me if there was another me, it doesn't

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:42.799
<v Speaker 1>fucking work. And I also know what you value, and

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 1>so I try to give you what you value and

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 1>speak your language, not because I'm being strategic, but because

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:53.840
<v Speaker 1>that's the kind of an expression of love is working

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 1>with someone in a way that resonates with them. And

0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like when you put up your post about your

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 1>thousand's episode. You know, I just put up something short.

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it was, something nice with it,

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, like one sentence, and then you wrote back

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:13.319
<v Speaker 1>all this super nice stuff to me, which was much appreciated.

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 1>But it's like just for me being able to have

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:24.840
<v Speaker 1>meaningful conversations like this where you're constantly in the moment,

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:28.720
<v Speaker 1>but you're also assessing where we're at. I'm also thinking

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 1>about how long have we been talking, how long should

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:34.360
<v Speaker 1>this go for? How do I wind it up without

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 1>it sounding like we're halfway through something when we wind

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:41.799
<v Speaker 1>it up. So there are so many cognitive factors at

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:47.000
<v Speaker 1>play in terms of managing the situation, but then also

0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 1>just the experience. So for me, it's just something that

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I really enjoy. And yeah, there are times when the

0:43:57.600 --> 0:44:02.799
<v Speaker 1>new project is commercial great, and there are times when

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:07.320
<v Speaker 1>that's not the case. But I don't like me doing

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 1>this is not about money. If we make good money,

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:14.440
<v Speaker 1>that's fucking fantastic. And we've got sponsors and we're partnered

0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 1>with Nova Entertainment and all of that, and I value them,

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 1>appreciate them, and value every dollar that a sponsor pays

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 1>all that kind of shit. But if I would never

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 1>do this for money, because I can make more money

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:31.560
<v Speaker 1>doing one speaking gig than thirty podcasts. Kind of, it depends,

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, it depends on next. I genuinely like finding

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:43.640
<v Speaker 1>out about people and what drives them, and you know

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:49.399
<v Speaker 1>how they talking to somebody like what's his name, old mate,

0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Professor Jeffrey Reddicker from Harvard Medical School, which he's known

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the guy that started Netflix? Mark what is his surname? Anyway,

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 1>Like talking to that dude, it's like this guy built

0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 1>he created Netflix. He's a billionaire, and he's talking to

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:09.880
<v Speaker 1>me like we're two blokes at the cafe. And it's like,

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't have access to these people ever. But when

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:16.520
<v Speaker 1>you've got a podcast that ranks okay, and you've got

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 1>two thousand episodes in the can, and you send them

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 1>a list of like here's fifty people that you will

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:25.280
<v Speaker 1>know that I've interviewed, and so you build this whole,

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:29.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, then selfishly, I get access to people that

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I would never meet and I don't have to you know,

0:45:32.160 --> 0:45:36.800
<v Speaker 1>it's not like, ah, I'm seeing what's his name anyway,

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:39.440
<v Speaker 1>it'll come to me. But Mark who started Netflix.

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:41.760
<v Speaker 3>Rand Mark Randelf, Yes, thank you.

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. But I've got to pay him ten grand

0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 1>for twenty minutes of his time to talk to him.

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:49.239
<v Speaker 1>And he was so that guy was so generous and

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 1>so kind. And I said to him, I don't know

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 1>if you remember this, but you might not have been

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:55.360
<v Speaker 1>on it. And I said, at the end your ace,

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I go, can we be friends? He goes, of course,

0:45:58.080 --> 0:45:59.879
<v Speaker 1>And I go, when I come to Colorado, I think

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Colorado where he lives in the middle of the wilderness

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:05.360
<v Speaker 1>and he works two days a week, right, but he

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:08.759
<v Speaker 1>works like sixteen hours each day, and then he has

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 1>five days where it's just all about his kids, his wife,

0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:15.360
<v Speaker 1>his grandkids, kayaking, mountain biking because he lives in the

0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:17.759
<v Speaker 1>middle of nowhere. And I'm like, this dude has got

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 1>it sorted out because he doesn't do nothing. He works,

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 1>but he's incredibly productive and efficient for two days and

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:30.320
<v Speaker 1>then not and his team is not allowed to contact

0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:33.160
<v Speaker 1>him for the five days unless the joints burning down.

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, he's got that sorted And just that

0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 1>encounter with me Mark Randolph here, that's it. He made

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 1>a bigger impact. I can't remember his name, you know,

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:48.279
<v Speaker 1>but then like being weird, like Johnny Raffo, who's no

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:51.600
<v Speaker 1>longer with us, I'm so glad that I got to

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 1>meet him and we connected and I loved him and

0:46:55.280 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 1>he was so great. And Danny Frawley who was on

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:01.760
<v Speaker 1>the show, who's no longer with us, who I trained

0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:04.279
<v Speaker 1>him at some killed her and we were friends and

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:06.319
<v Speaker 1>it was great to have. We had a talk of

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 1>a deep, kind of almost heart wrenching story about mental health,

0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you know. And then sadly he passed away five six

0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:17.640
<v Speaker 1>months later. And then doctor Gladys McCrary, who at the

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 1>time was one hundred and two or three when I

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 1>interviewed her, and so beautiful and so much wisdom. And

0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, who gets to talk to one hundred and

0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 1>three year old that's sharp as attack and smart and

0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:35.319
<v Speaker 1>was born when she passed away a year or two ago,

0:47:35.520 --> 0:47:38.879
<v Speaker 1>was born, like when cars were new, like cars were

0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:42.879
<v Speaker 1>a revolution, you know, planes were just literally getting off

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the ground. You know, it's fucking amazing. And you know,

0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:54.160
<v Speaker 1>so many of those like those moments that I have

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:58.000
<v Speaker 1>and they're recorded. And Simon Hammond, a friend of mine

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 1>who owned an amazing speaking agency and wrote a few books.

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:06.040
<v Speaker 1>And Nima, my friend the pharmacist, who we did probably

0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:09.520
<v Speaker 1>ten to fifteen episodes, and he's passed away. And it's

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 1>like there's just been so many magic moments that for

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:18.920
<v Speaker 1>me are just gifts, and you know, yeah, it's just

0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:22.959
<v Speaker 1>I would not I would not stop this. There would

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:25.920
<v Speaker 1>be have to be you know, if no one wanted

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 1>to listen, then okay, you know, but I don't know, yeah,

0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:33.759
<v Speaker 1>just yeah, for me, it's been a gift that I

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't it was like an unexpected gift. Probably started off far.

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Let's do this thing because I'm not bad at talking.

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I've worked in radio. I can interview people. But this

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:47.840
<v Speaker 1>is radio without breaks, without fucking weather checks, without station idea,

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 1>without we.

0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Get a few station ideas. Let's be honest.

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Good There at SAPs from the new project coming at

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 1>your live. It's currently five pasts out. I think top

0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:01.240
<v Speaker 1>fourteen degree today. Our big Pine City by the Bay

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:03.960
<v Speaker 1>coming up next. It's tiffing a bullshit, but first a

0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:06.720
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a Casey in the sunshine man walking

0:49:06.760 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 1>on Sunshine. You're welcome. I'm working. No, I don't do

0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:10.480
<v Speaker 1>any of that.

0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Tell me what has been the hardest for you.

0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:24.839
<v Speaker 1>What's been the hardest for me? Okay, what comes to mind.

0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Dealing with negative feedback has been interesting, but I like it.

0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Somebody wrote the other day and I'm not at all

0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:38.160
<v Speaker 1>mad at him, that was a really good podcast and

0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:42.960
<v Speaker 1>whoever it was, the guest actually got a chance to talk.

0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:45.799
<v Speaker 1>And I'm part of me wanted to go fuck you,

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 1>And then I'm like, which, whoever, that was definitely not

0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:52.279
<v Speaker 1>fuck you. But I'm like, yeah, I still do that,

0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:56.319
<v Speaker 1>Like I still I'm like, oh, fuck, you know, like

0:49:56.400 --> 0:49:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I still make mistakes, Like I'm pretty good at this.

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess yes. But if someone said, you know, like

0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:05.960
<v Speaker 1>you've done a lot, and you know, do you reckon

0:50:06.000 --> 0:50:08.600
<v Speaker 1>you're somewhere near ten, I'd go, no, I reconom a six.

0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I economic six. Yeah, and some days I might produce

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:14.360
<v Speaker 1>an eight or an eight and a half, or the

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:16.279
<v Speaker 1>end product might be an eight or an eight and

0:50:16.320 --> 0:50:22.799
<v Speaker 1>a half. As as people know, Melissa ranks every episode

0:50:23.960 --> 0:50:26.920
<v Speaker 1>or the ones that she listens to. But yeah, I

0:50:27.040 --> 0:50:32.160
<v Speaker 1>think that I think developing like a flow and a cadence,

0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:38.160
<v Speaker 1>learning to be as natural as you would in a

0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:41.680
<v Speaker 1>one on one conversation at a cafe like we are. Now,

0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:43.239
<v Speaker 1>have you.

0:50:45.520 --> 0:50:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Have you done any structured like strategic listening or adapting

0:50:53.000 --> 0:50:57.200
<v Speaker 2>how you run a conversation or trying to get better

0:50:57.239 --> 0:51:01.560
<v Speaker 2>in that way?

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Incidentally, because like if somebody says, I love that show

0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:09.800
<v Speaker 1>so much, like somebody said the other day, I've listened

0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:12.319
<v Speaker 1>to all of your podcasts. Oh it was the one

0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:13.480
<v Speaker 1>where Bobby coached me.

0:51:13.840 --> 0:51:15.959
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that was great And.

0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Bobby coached me and I did you listen to that?

0:51:20.280 --> 0:51:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Of course, I'm like, I don't know if I want

0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:27.600
<v Speaker 1>to do this, Like we're talking about like we've spoken

0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:31.839
<v Speaker 1>about leadership and coaching and self awareness and you know,

0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:34.520
<v Speaker 1>how to community and we'll talk. Him and I were

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:38.359
<v Speaker 1>talking afair about coaching, and I said, do you want

0:51:38.400 --> 0:51:42.040
<v Speaker 1>to coach me? And I'll take off the typ hat.

0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll take off the Craig Harper faking hat, and I'll

0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:48.520
<v Speaker 1>take off the you know, the host hat, and I

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:52.759
<v Speaker 1>will be a client and I'll be real and I'll

0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:57.839
<v Speaker 1>be I won't. I won't, I won't be strategic. I'll

0:51:57.880 --> 0:52:03.840
<v Speaker 1>just be vulnerable and what yeah, and I got I

0:52:03.840 --> 0:52:07.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I cried a fucking I cried fucking

0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:12.160
<v Speaker 1>every tenth episode I'm pathetic, but I definitely got emotional

0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:16.160
<v Speaker 1>and it was definitely hard, and he definitely asked a

0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:20.160
<v Speaker 1>few questions that I felt like going, fuck, you don't

0:52:20.200 --> 0:52:23.200
<v Speaker 1>ask me that. Like I didn't, but I felt like

0:52:23.400 --> 0:52:25.640
<v Speaker 1>stopping it and going, nah, I'm not to go on there.

0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:32.479
<v Speaker 1>But I went there. Yeah, and then yeah, a few

0:52:32.480 --> 0:52:35.960
<v Speaker 1>people like, we got a lot of feedback. Compared to

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:38.239
<v Speaker 1>the normal amount of feedback, We've probably got three or

0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:40.399
<v Speaker 1>four times. We've probably got three or four or five

0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:43.960
<v Speaker 1>times the likes. If you're wondering where I'm talking about

0:52:44.000 --> 0:52:51.360
<v Speaker 1>our Facebook page? Did you project? Uh? Facebook page? Project group? Yeah,

0:52:51.360 --> 0:52:54.920
<v Speaker 1>And like I listened to that and I went, oh,

0:52:54.960 --> 0:52:58.319
<v Speaker 1>and I did not enjoy listening to it. But I

0:52:58.440 --> 0:53:02.680
<v Speaker 1>want to hear what it is that people like, you know,

0:53:02.920 --> 0:53:06.920
<v Speaker 1>and it's always you know, it's like some people really

0:53:07.000 --> 0:53:11.520
<v Speaker 1>love when I do a thirty minute solo and I'm

0:53:11.880 --> 0:53:15.760
<v Speaker 1>essentially doing a fucking pep talk. Get your shit together,

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:18.799
<v Speaker 1>stop fucking around. You know, I love you, but don't

0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 1>be a fuck with kind of thing. Right, you don't

0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:23.360
<v Speaker 1>need to cheer squad, You don't need to put up

0:53:23.400 --> 0:53:25.960
<v Speaker 1>a picture of your fucking breakfast. Right, you don't need

0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:29.440
<v Speaker 1>to do that, you know, and people some people will

0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:32.680
<v Speaker 1>not like that because that doesn't suit them or they're

0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:36.440
<v Speaker 1>not ready for that chat or whatever, and other people like,

0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:39.000
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. That is exactly what I needed

0:53:39.040 --> 0:53:42.279
<v Speaker 1>to hear. And that's so you've got to be a generalist,

0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:46.320
<v Speaker 1>because you you're definitely not. You know, it's like the

0:53:46.360 --> 0:53:50.120
<v Speaker 1>biggest podcast in the world, Joe Rogan. I hear more

0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:53.560
<v Speaker 1>hate about Joe Rogan. Like the people that go to me, oh,

0:53:53.600 --> 0:53:55.840
<v Speaker 1>what a fucking and generally the people let go what

0:53:55.880 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 1>a fucking idiot? Have never listened to one episode. But

0:53:59.600 --> 0:54:02.880
<v Speaker 1>what they've is they've seen clips here and there, and

0:54:02.920 --> 0:54:06.240
<v Speaker 1>they based there there. You know, it's like they didn't

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:09.799
<v Speaker 1>see the film. They saw a thirty second reel of

0:54:09.840 --> 0:54:12.960
<v Speaker 1>the film, and now they're an expert commentator on the

0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:16.360
<v Speaker 1>film that goes for three hours and they saw thirty seconds.

0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:18.799
<v Speaker 1>But I don't like people have literally said to me,

0:54:19.040 --> 0:54:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't need to listen to a podcast. He's an idiot.

0:54:21.840 --> 0:54:25.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, now, I'm not promoting Joe Rogan. I'm

0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:28.680
<v Speaker 1>just going I listened to some I'm like, not interested

0:54:28.719 --> 0:54:31.040
<v Speaker 1>in the topic, not interested in the guests. See you later.

0:54:31.600 --> 0:54:35.000
<v Speaker 1>And then somewhere he's got some brainiac on and people

0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:39.400
<v Speaker 1>think he's dumb based on it some perception. I'm like,

0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I could give you some podcasts where you listen and

0:54:43.120 --> 0:54:46.200
<v Speaker 1>yes he swears, and yes he fucking smokes cigars and

0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:49.400
<v Speaker 1>occasionally dope on the thing, and yes he's a UFC

0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:56.200
<v Speaker 1>commentator and interviewer, and yes he owns a comedy club. Yeah,

0:54:56.400 --> 0:55:00.400
<v Speaker 1>but you know, it's like, Okay, you don't need to

0:55:00.600 --> 0:55:05.920
<v Speaker 1>like him, but don't. Don't don't think you understand somebody

0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:10.800
<v Speaker 1>and then run him down because you saw seven seconds

0:55:10.800 --> 0:55:13.640
<v Speaker 1>of something that didn't resonate with you. Or you've got

0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:16.040
<v Speaker 1>a friend that you really like and respect who says

0:55:16.120 --> 0:55:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Joe Rogan's a fucking idiot, So therefore Joe Rogan's a

0:55:19.160 --> 0:55:21.799
<v Speaker 1>fucking idiot. You know. Do I have a cringe at

0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:23.560
<v Speaker 1>what he says? Yes? Do I ever get a light

0:55:23.600 --> 0:55:27.080
<v Speaker 1>bulb moment? Yes? I reckon.

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<v Speaker 2>We have been primed. I did a rant on this recently.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon, But I reckon the world is priming us

0:55:33.440 --> 0:55:40.960
<v Speaker 2>to make fast judgments and hit outrage just in general.

0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:44.439
<v Speaker 2>You know, like I talked about how everybody is tear,

0:55:44.680 --> 0:55:47.799
<v Speaker 2>how we tear other people down. Yes, we can't just

0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:51.360
<v Speaker 2>have an opinion. We have to now stitch somebody else's

0:55:52.520 --> 0:55:55.320
<v Speaker 2>content into I don't do it, so I shouldn't be

0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:56.279
<v Speaker 2>saying ow or we.

0:55:56.520 --> 0:55:57.680
<v Speaker 3>But that's why our talk.

0:55:58.080 --> 0:56:02.319
<v Speaker 2>We stitch people's point of view a tiny snippet of it,

0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:05.200
<v Speaker 2>and then we say why it's shit, So we tear

0:56:05.280 --> 0:56:08.759
<v Speaker 2>other people down to because and the algorithm loves it

0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:12.800
<v Speaker 2>and we get all these accolades. That is priming human behavior.

0:56:12.800 --> 0:56:15.279
<v Speaker 2>That goes back to the cognitive bias that you talked

0:56:15.280 --> 0:56:18.080
<v Speaker 2>about before, and no fucking good can come of it.

0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:21.560
<v Speaker 2>And we know it's shit, but we're being it as

0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:25.200
<v Speaker 2>a fucking as humanity, as a human race.

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<v Speaker 1>M it's not cool. You know, this is in the

0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:33.080
<v Speaker 1>ballpark of what you're talking about. I just want to

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:35.640
<v Speaker 1>share something which sorry, folks, this will be a little

0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:39.160
<v Speaker 1>bit laborious, but it might be interesting. So I have

0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:44.319
<v Speaker 1>this conundrum at the moment with social media and people know,

0:56:45.000 --> 0:56:48.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know, I might, I don't know

0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:51.000
<v Speaker 1>how many words? What's the I think we talk like

0:56:51.080 --> 0:56:53.560
<v Speaker 1>something like one hundred to one hundred and fifty words

0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:55.600
<v Speaker 1>a minute in a normal conversation, or a bit more.

0:56:55.640 --> 0:56:58.719
<v Speaker 1>But let's say over an hour, what's sixty times one

0:56:58.760 --> 0:57:01.400
<v Speaker 1>hundred and six thousand words six seven eight thousand words

0:57:01.400 --> 0:57:04.080
<v Speaker 1>in a one hour podcast something in that ballpark, right,

0:57:04.920 --> 0:57:07.760
<v Speaker 1>And in the course of that hour, I might swear

0:57:09.600 --> 0:57:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know ten times. I'm not sure. So there's

0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:17.000
<v Speaker 1>ten swear words and seven thousand non swear words. People

0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:20.240
<v Speaker 1>just some people will send me messages about the ten words,

0:57:20.520 --> 0:57:24.640
<v Speaker 1>and so the ten words they ignore the seven thousand, right,

0:57:25.240 --> 0:57:27.720
<v Speaker 1>and all they invest their energy in is the ten

0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:32.480
<v Speaker 1>words or the five words. But the irony is in

0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:37.800
<v Speaker 1>other forums, like on social on Facebook for example, Like

0:57:38.800 --> 0:57:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the other day, I did a test and I'd written

0:57:41.600 --> 0:57:47.480
<v Speaker 1>two posts, and the first post was essentially about the

0:57:47.520 --> 0:57:51.120
<v Speaker 1>message underneath was how to utilize more of your potential? Well,

0:57:52.080 --> 0:57:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I work in the human behavior develop your potential, think better,

0:57:56.840 --> 0:58:00.560
<v Speaker 1>do better, be better, psychology space, right, And so I

0:58:00.600 --> 0:58:04.920
<v Speaker 1>gave eight points to help people move the needle on

0:58:05.440 --> 0:58:08.640
<v Speaker 1>being able to tap into their own potential with the

0:58:08.720 --> 0:58:10.920
<v Speaker 1>understanding that you're not going to get any more potential.

0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:13.480
<v Speaker 1>You're not going to get more You might get more skill,

0:58:13.560 --> 0:58:17.640
<v Speaker 1>more awareness, more understanding, more knowledge, whatever, more resources, but

0:58:17.720 --> 0:58:21.600
<v Speaker 1>your potential is set. How much of it, will you exploit?

0:58:21.680 --> 0:58:23.600
<v Speaker 1>So I wrote out these eight what I think are

0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:29.120
<v Speaker 1>really good points. Now I just want to give the comment.

0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:33.480
<v Speaker 1>So on that post. Now, I've got nearly seventy thousand

0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:38.280
<v Speaker 1>followers on Instagram right forty seven likes on this I

0:58:38.320 --> 0:58:42.560
<v Speaker 1>think is a very solid post. One comment, two people

0:58:42.600 --> 0:58:45.640
<v Speaker 1>shared it on their own platform, and eleven people shared

0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:49.320
<v Speaker 1>it with someone else about Within the same hour, I

0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:55.200
<v Speaker 1>wrote another post, and I just knew that this post

0:58:55.200 --> 0:58:58.160
<v Speaker 1>would go all right, but I'm sick of having to.

0:58:58.920 --> 0:59:01.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like if I write two posts the same post

0:59:02.000 --> 0:59:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and one's got air force C in it, I'm not

0:59:04.000 --> 0:59:06.760
<v Speaker 1>even going to say the word everyone, So there you go,

0:59:06.920 --> 0:59:08.320
<v Speaker 1>there you go. You're fucking welcome.

0:59:09.560 --> 0:59:10.080
<v Speaker 3>You've said it.

0:59:10.960 --> 0:59:16.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm joking. But so I wrote the C word right now.

0:59:16.720 --> 0:59:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I wrote the C word, and then I had an arrow.

0:59:19.600 --> 0:59:22.920
<v Speaker 1>So the heading is that word, and then not always

0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:26.600
<v Speaker 1>an insult, and then so it is the first line

0:59:26.640 --> 0:59:29.560
<v Speaker 1>is then I'm kind of giving it like a breakdown.

0:59:29.920 --> 0:59:34.240
<v Speaker 1>C word not good, funny sea word that's good, smart

0:59:34.440 --> 0:59:40.200
<v Speaker 1>C word, context dependant, good C word, social approval, sneaky

0:59:40.280 --> 0:59:45.919
<v Speaker 1>sea word usually bad, smamy S word, socially repellent. Now

0:59:47.160 --> 0:59:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Now this has been up for less time than the

0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:54.880
<v Speaker 1>other one, and I literally said the C word. One's

0:59:55.280 --> 1:00:01.360
<v Speaker 1>seven times. Now three and a half thousand likes, fifteen

1:00:01.560 --> 1:00:06.960
<v Speaker 1>thousand and seven hundred shares, so fifteen thousand. Now that's

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<v Speaker 1>not the like. By the way, there's been nearly quarter

1:00:09.640 --> 1:00:12.520
<v Speaker 1>of a million people that looked at this post views. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's only been up a few days, so over fifteen

1:00:17.600 --> 1:00:21.720
<v Speaker 1>and a half thousand people shared this message. But the

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<v Speaker 1>other message, which was really good advice and sound kind

1:00:24.680 --> 1:00:30.520
<v Speaker 1>of coaching and psychology, nobody. And this is my conundrum. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, nearly one hundred comments, one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and eighty shares that people on their own page. They

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<v Speaker 1>put it on their own page, and then fifteen and

1:00:38.920 --> 1:00:42.680
<v Speaker 1>a half fifteen seven people sent it to someone, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and heading towards quarter of a million views. Now here's

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<v Speaker 1>my conundrum. When I don't swear, my numbers go down,

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<v Speaker 1>like literally, my followers drop off. If I say the

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<v Speaker 1>same message, we're swearing goes up. My I forget here

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<v Speaker 1>it is? How on? Let me find it? So this one,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not too much swearing, but of course life's

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<v Speaker 1>a shit show. And then it's awesome and then you're

1:01:18.000 --> 1:01:20.680
<v Speaker 1>sad and then happy, and then it's lunchtime. Your challenge

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<v Speaker 1>is not to create a perfect life, but rather to

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<v Speaker 1>thrive in the inevitable imperfection of it all. But the

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<v Speaker 1>fifth word in that is shit. Now that's been shared

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<v Speaker 1>nearly thirty thousand times. And let me just look at

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers. Two million and seventy eight, six hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four views. Right if I put the same post

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<v Speaker 1>up with no swearing, it would not reach twenty thousand views,

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<v Speaker 1>so twenty two million. So this is this is tricky,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that's and right now I don't know the solution.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the solution because I really don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be I just swear because that's how I talk.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't swear for effect, I don't, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>there are times when the situation it's inappropriate that I swear,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't. But if you're with me at the gym,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm with the crab, if I'm with your bloke,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're you know, I swear. I don't swear all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, but we might work out for an hour

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<v Speaker 1>and I say fuck four times. Whatever it is right.

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<v Speaker 1>I might go to a corporate gig. I say it's

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<v Speaker 1>zero because I have enough awareness to go, this is

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<v Speaker 1>inappropriate in this spot with these people getting paid this

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<v Speaker 1>money doing this job. And so yeah, it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>human algorithm, and you go, well, the main negative feedback

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<v Speaker 1>I get. I get way more positive negative. Thank you everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>But the main negative feedback I get is about swearing.

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<v Speaker 1>And then if you look at my books, I've written

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<v Speaker 1>seven books and the one with fuck on the front

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<v Speaker 1>cover has outsold all the other books all together sales

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<v Speaker 1>by about five up fifty thousand sales with Stop Fucking Around,

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<v Speaker 1>and in Australia a bestseller is ten thousand, also self published.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting. It's been interesting to know if.

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<v Speaker 2>It lands differently in a written form than people hearing it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like because obviously there's a different demographic on

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram than there is in a podcast. You have a

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<v Speaker 2>different audience in those platforms. But it would be a

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting exercise to have the same audience and.

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<v Speaker 3>Write with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Same amount of swear words in your writing and have

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<v Speaker 2>them read it as to listen to it and see

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<v Speaker 2>if that if the response was the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's I mean, if.

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<v Speaker 2>I swear a lot way too much for a very

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<v Speaker 2>feminine lass like myself, you know, lady like.

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<v Speaker 1>Lady, hey, can you get chipped back on?

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<v Speaker 2>But I remember a time when when I started editing

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<v Speaker 2>my podcast, word I don't like the sound of Quite

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<v Speaker 2>often I.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the sound of females swearing. It's not as it's

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<v Speaker 3>not nice, but I do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I started swearing less on the show, and if

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<v Speaker 2>I remember in the early days cutting some of the swearing.

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<v Speaker 3>Out because I was like, oh, just sounds terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>I like saying it doesn't land that way in conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>but I didn't like listening to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's interesting, Yeah, I think also like, what's that

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<v Speaker 1>old dude professor something ash? What's his name? Amtmi? This

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<v Speaker 1>old beautiful Indian professor. So is this combination of like

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<v Speaker 1>academia and intellect and spirituality and like my favorite kind

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<v Speaker 1>of person. Right, I'm like, oh, I could just sit

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<v Speaker 1>at his feet like a kid and listen to him.

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<v Speaker 1>And the moment that I got on, I had a

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<v Speaker 1>distinct awareness that it would be totally inappropriate, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>so I didn't. So you kind of read the room

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<v Speaker 1>a bit, you know, and you know there's that Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. But anyway, that's a conundrum. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I'm gonna it's hard because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to. Like sometimes I'll write something and I know

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<v Speaker 1>if I put a C word in there, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to go way better. Yeah, and more people will read it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, more brand better exposure, da da da da da.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the end of the day, so what do

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<v Speaker 1>I do for a job? My main income is speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to groups, right, I go, well, the more, well, like,

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<v Speaker 1>we just got an inquiry today unless it goes to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Just before we went on, she goes, are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to You just got an email from a New South

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<v Speaker 1>Wales police and for a moment my sphincter snap like

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<v Speaker 1>could you fucking finish that sentence? You know? But they

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<v Speaker 1>potentially want me to go and do some work with them.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm thinking, there's no way I'm getting that gig

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<v Speaker 1>unless I've got the profile that I've got, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, You're like, it's like, well it's and it

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<v Speaker 1>can sounded egotistical work. The bottom line is the more

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<v Speaker 1>if you are a speaker, you're selling your time, your knowledge,

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<v Speaker 1>your skills. But if you're I'm not saying I'm brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's say you're a brilliant speaker, but nobody fucking

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<v Speaker 1>knows who you are because you have no public presence.

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<v Speaker 1>No one knows you. It doesn't matter how brilliant you are,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not getting gigs. Yeah, so it's that conundrum. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to work, I've got to pay the bills,

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<v Speaker 1>and if fifty thousand followers is good, then one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand is better because it you know, and it might

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<v Speaker 1>only increase it a little bit. But you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine point nine percent of I would say, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>say probably ninety nine percent of people who listened to this,

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<v Speaker 1>which I'm completely happy with and understand will never spend

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<v Speaker 1>one cent at the Craig Harper store, if you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, right, And I do that knowingly and gladly.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is in no way suggesting anyone does. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, you know that this is what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>This would be the worst branding and marketing. Like if

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<v Speaker 1>your job was to get bums on the seats, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the worst way to do it because it's such

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<v Speaker 1>a slow grind, and you think, well, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what I've done like twenty one odd one hundred or more.

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<v Speaker 1>You go, well, if each one of those is an hour,

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<v Speaker 1>that's twenty one hundred hours like this one's gone for

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<v Speaker 1>longer even and then all the editing and then the

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<v Speaker 1>writing copy, and then the know you sitting there or

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<v Speaker 1>Melissa sitting there making it make it sound better than

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<v Speaker 1>it did before because someone's audio was crappy, and then

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<v Speaker 1>adjusting and regulating and doing all the clever shit that

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<v Speaker 1>you two do. Yeah, you would not do this to

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<v Speaker 1>become famous or rich. Yes, Hey, it's been good. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if anyone else enjoyed it, but I did

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<v Speaker 1>so suffering your jocks, everyone else and all our overseas

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<v Speaker 1>listeners will not know what that means. It's fun, though

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<v Speaker 1>it's tongue in cheek again. Congrats on your thousand go you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. I'm glad you're not dying of the lurgie.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell you, bloke, he's a good man. Just squeeze him

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<v Speaker 1>on the ass for me and tell him that's from me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say on the edge on the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the dick, but that's inappropriate, so I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>leave it.

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<v Speaker 3>To us and getting around in your flanny, mate, he's

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<v Speaker 3>getting around.

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<v Speaker 1>I left my flanny in his van everyone and then

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<v Speaker 1>Tiff sent me photos of him wearing my fucking flanney.

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<v Speaker 1>He probably catch something, all right, splaining great. Thanks Cook, Bye,