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Speaker 1: Yeah, Team Craig Anthony Harper is my name. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: another installment for you project your favorite, second, third, fourth,

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Speaker 1: fifth favorite show. I'm sure welcome, Welcome, welcome. I hope

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Speaker 1: you're good. I hope you have a good day today.

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Speaker 1: If it's early, if it's late, I hope you had

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Speaker 1: a good day. Someone who hasn't had a good day

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Speaker 1: or two of late. But she's coming good, which is

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Speaker 1: good because we don't like her sick, because she's no

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Speaker 1: use to me. I don't care about a health, just

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Speaker 1: a productivity. Let's be honest. Ha ha ah. The productive

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Speaker 1: one is still a seven out of ten, but yesterday

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Speaker 1: she was a two, so absolutely no value at all.

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Speaker 2: Tiff Cookai, Hi, Look, the beauty is sometimes I tend

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Speaker 2: to go down hard and fast, but I bounce back

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Speaker 2: hard and fast too.

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Speaker 1: I reckon, Well, I think you're quite resilient because you

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Speaker 1: were you know, you're a little pugilist at heart, among

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Speaker 1: other things. So you're a fighter. You're a fighter. You

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Speaker 1: don't wave the white flag. But what was interesting was

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Speaker 1: it yesterday that we did Mick Hall, that we recorded yep,

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Speaker 1: and at the start of the podcast you were okay,

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Speaker 1: and then but we were on because there was a

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Speaker 1: bit of pre and post chatting, and by the time

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Speaker 1: you could hardly string four words together and it looked

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Speaker 1: like you had fucking influenza twenty seven. And he was

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Speaker 1: just and You're like, as soon as we stopped recording,

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Speaker 1: You're like, I feel shit out, so I've got to go.

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Speaker 2: I had another one lined up that I was going

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Speaker 3: I went, I went down hard.

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Speaker 1: Oh that would have killed you, that one, because that

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Speaker 1: was an hour and a half with Chezy Dana and

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Speaker 1: might I say, all right before we jump into that,

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Speaker 1: so what what do you have or what did you

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Speaker 1: have or what were your symptoms?

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Speaker 3: Well? Just well just a cold really, but a very headache.

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Speaker 2: I did a COVID test. Wasn't COVID, Maybe an influenza.

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Speaker 3: I just thought it was cold.

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Speaker 2: But I was a bit headache the whole time. And

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Speaker 2: then yesterday, so here's this. Yesterday morning, I'd gone to

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Speaker 3: The state of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, a sick body is a stressed body, and

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Speaker 1: strength training is another kind of stress. So we're putting

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Speaker 1: stress on a system that is already stressed. And being

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Speaker 1: the alpha female slash male slash unicorn that you are,

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Speaker 1: it seems like a good idea until you get in

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Speaker 1: We're not doing this. Yeah yeah, But also when you're

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Speaker 1: a little bit obsessed, well how obsessed? A little okay?

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Speaker 1: Um am not? You are? Fuck off? What are you

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Speaker 1: looking at? You know? So there have been many times

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Speaker 1: in my life when I've just yeah, I'm the same,

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Speaker 1: day off when I actually need a day off. That's

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Speaker 1: quite groundbreaking for me. As you know there are not

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Speaker 1: like you've been telling me and your audience and my

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Speaker 1: audience a while, that you just I think you said

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Speaker 1: it on yesterday's show, which will be out soon, or

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Speaker 1: yesterday's recording with Mikhor by the way, everyone, if you

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Speaker 1: haven't heard that, go back to it. I mean, hey,

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Speaker 1: about being a late starter, some really good stuff in that,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people lately there seems to be

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Speaker 1: a disproportionate number of people who are fatigued, Like every

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I have been.

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Speaker 2: I'm waiting for blood test results for iron levels, but

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Speaker 2: I've changed this, and I've changed that, and I've done this,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, and then you you know, I think you're

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Speaker 2: Oh, how much of this is just coming from lifestyle

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Speaker 1: And also you as an individual versus old mate, versus

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Speaker 1: Nancy versus John Nancy Nancy's eighty. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: she listens. Nancy. If you do, God bless your Have

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Speaker 1: you ever been a Nancy that's younger than forty? Reach

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Speaker 1: out if you're Nancy and younger than forty, fucking well done.

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Speaker 1: It's like Craigs. Has there been in the last five

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Speaker 1: year years in Australia a baby called Craig? Absolutely not?

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Speaker 1: Like imagine holding up a six or seven pound gorgeous

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Speaker 1: just fucking ready for life. What do you think, Dale? Oh?

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Speaker 1: What about Craig? Oh fucking music to my ears, let's

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Speaker 1: go with that. Fucking I'm still mad at my parents.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not even being funny. It's that I fucking

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Speaker 1: It's like honey, It's like verbal honey, fucking Craig ron

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Speaker 1: Mary of all the fucking names. You only had one kid,

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Speaker 2: So I remember reading Drunk Tank Pink, and there's a

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, definitely, Yeah, definitely. I mean I don't want

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Speaker 1: offend people. But there's some and then there are cool names.

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Speaker 2: I matched the name Tiffany. I don't feel like a Tiffany.

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Speaker 1: on a thousand episodes of Roll with the Punches. The

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Speaker 1: doing lots right. And when you posted that the other day,

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Speaker 2: the hardest thing was that the sense of being so

429
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Speaker 2: critical in the middle of it, Like I haven't and

430
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Speaker 2: it's still to today. I can hold conversations where in

431
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Speaker 2: the conversation I think I am pretty shit and not

432
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Speaker 2: good at this. And for example, yesterday when I recorded

433
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Speaker 2: that episode, I was like, ah, I don't feeling my best,

434
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Speaker 2: and I probably should have canceled this because I think

435
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: I've a really crap at it. But learning to separate

436
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: my emotion in the moment in terms of my perception

437
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: of it and enjoyment of that, separating that from the

438
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Speaker 2: experience that is the podcast and the podcast for the

439
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Speaker 2: other person. And I do that in speaking as well.

440
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Speaker 2: Is a lot of the time my sense of whether

441
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Speaker 2: something was good is how much I felt like I

442
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Speaker 2: was having fun and I felt confident.

443
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Speaker 1: Hm. And the interesting thing about our mind is that

444
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Speaker 1: if I'm now thinking about whether or not I'm doing

445
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Speaker 1: any good, that's where my attention is. Yeah, my attention

446
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: is not on the show or the person or the conversation.

447
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: My attention now, which is borne out of insecurity and

448
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: fear and all the things and self doubt and overthinking.

449
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: Now I'm in an emotionally driven kind of space in

450
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Speaker 1: the middle of this thing that should Yeah, So it's

451
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Speaker 1: I think trying to hit the pause button as quickly

452
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: as you can and regroup, which is I mean, I

453
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: think that ability in general, that situational awareness, self awareness,

454
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: you know, even my research stuff. What am I like

455
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: for the audience right now? Like you want to kind

456
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: of have some insight, but you don't want to be

457
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: dwelling on it because the moment that you're overthinking and

458
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: dwelling and obsessing your performance is definitely going down. Ironically,

459
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: worrying about your performance makes it worse. Yes, you know,

460
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Speaker 1: it's like it doesn't worrying about it, It doesn't you know,

461
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: it's like obsessing about the thing you're scared of just

462
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: turns up the volume on the thing you're scared of.

463
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: So it's this dichotomy between what is happening in your brain,

464
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Speaker 1: as you said, prefrontal cortex, logical rational brain and your

465
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Speaker 1: emotions and your nervous system. And even though you know

466
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Speaker 1: this is not helping, it's almost like, you know, as

467
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Speaker 1: that old chestnut you're Amigdala hijacks your prefrontal cortex. Now

468
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: my emotions are running the show, specifically fear and self

469
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: doubt and anxiety, and yeah, so it's that, but that

470
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Speaker 1: is the same with every you know that can be

471
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Speaker 1: you at work when you've got to talk to your boss.

472
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Speaker 1: That could be you in a meeting. That could be

473
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Speaker 1: you in a situation where you're trying to teach your

474
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Speaker 1: kids something but you're so worried about them getting hurt

475
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Speaker 1: that you become a rational and you know, you say

476
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Speaker 1: shit that you probably resent or you could resent later

477
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Speaker 1: or Yeah. That's that real moment kind of ability to

478
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Speaker 1: be able to self regulate, yeah, with nobody knowing that

479
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Speaker 1: that's what you're actually doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

481
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Speaker 2: And what's ironic is that is often one of my

482
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Speaker 2: talking points and things that I workshop is around that

483
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Speaker 2: from the boxing ring, but it's something that I still

484
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: need to confront in other areas. It's so funny how

485
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: we do that, where I go, oh, here's this thing,

486
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Speaker 2: here's an example. I can remember how it felt, so

487
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Speaker 2: I can share it with you, I can talk about it,

488
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Speaker 2: and then in the moment as I'm presenting maybe that

489
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Speaker 2: exact idea, I am in the middle of a version

490
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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 1: Doing that's Yeah, that's that's a mind fucking itself. But like,

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Speaker 1: if you think right about everyone who rants, and I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know someone who writes a fucking four or five

494
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Speaker 1: hundred word rants on social media. I was about to

495
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Speaker 1: give a shout out to someone who does it all

496
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Speaker 1: the time. That would be bad. I want to do that.

497
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Speaker 1: That would be bad. But it's like, you know that,

498
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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this is well. I will say

499
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a great habit. That's just what

500
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Speaker 1: I think. But I'm not naming a topic or a person,

501
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: but that you know that they are in that moment.

502
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: It's emotional and they are thinking obviously through you know,

503
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Speaker 1: or seeing things through their lens, and they're navigating the

504
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: words that they're putting on the page with their own

505
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: kind of beliefs and values and ideas, and this is

506
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Speaker 1: wrong and this is right, and I am right about

507
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Speaker 1: this and they are wrong about that. And I spoke

508
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Speaker 1: about this the other day when I put up a

509
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Speaker 1: post essentially, and I was about, you know, people who

510
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Speaker 1: write on something some big statement I've shared this once before,

511
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: sorry everyone, but some big proclamation or dissertation about why

512
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Speaker 1: this person's a fucking idiot. You can guess who it

513
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: might often be about, or the world's this, or the

514
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Speaker 1: government's that, or today right, And I get it, like

515
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Speaker 1: I understand why that happen I can totally understand that

516
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Speaker 1: person's reason while disagreeing one hundred percent with what they're saying. Right. Also,

517
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Speaker 1: I can see someone write or hear someone say something

518
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Speaker 1: that I really align with, but understand the people that

519
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: disagree with it. Right. And this is the problem in

520
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Speaker 1: you know, So there's people right now. I have seen

521
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Speaker 1: many of them since I wrote this. When I first

522
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Speaker 1: wrote it, it was like I'd seen two people in

523
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Speaker 1: two days say give a big grant, and then at

524
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Speaker 1: the end they say, if you disagree with me, please

525
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: unfriend me, don't follow me, which is also another way

526
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: of saying I only want people who agree with me

527
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Speaker 1: to be my friends. I only want people who support

528
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Speaker 1: my ideology to comment or be on I'm like, I

529
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Speaker 1: think that's a really bad idea. I think you should

530
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: really be around all kinds of people. If someone thinks

531
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump's a genius and you think is you know,

532
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: the Antichrist, that's okay. You don't have to join their team.

533
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: They don't need to join your team. But it is

534
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: really good to be informed. Now, if you live in

535
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: an echo chamber, a self created echo chamber, guess what,

536
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: you are not informed. You are programmed because you only

537
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: listen to people like you, You only trust and respect

538
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: people like you. Well, one, that's kind of egotistical and arrogant,

539
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: and I understand because it's also it's that, but it's

540
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: also fear. I get it. But the chances are, as

541
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Speaker 1: I've said many times, you are probably wrong about half

542
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: the time. Like if you think something and other people

543
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: think something else, I'm pretty sure you're not one hundred

544
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: percent right all the time and everyone else is zero

545
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: percent right every time. So you've got to go, let's

546
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: just be practical, realistic, get out of my ego and

547
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: my fear and my bullshits, and go Have I been

548
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: wrong about things before every day? Yeah? Cool? Have you

549
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: had really strong, fucking foundational beliefs that was essentially a

550
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: part of your identity and then you changed? Yes, I've

551
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: definitely had that. There were things that I would have

552
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: fucking I would have gone to war over, And now

553
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Speaker 1: I think I was a fuck word. I was wrong,

554
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: but I was wrong, And so no one wants to

555
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: go by the way Tiff was right. I was wrong,

556
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: and without going oh but here's my you know, this

557
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: is no just I was wrong the end, and for

558
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: people that I misled or I offended. All right, you

559
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: know whatever, I'm sorry I got it wrong, because you

560
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: know what, I'm a human and I get things wrong.

561
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Speaker 1: Or I might think the same thing and believe. I'm

562
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Speaker 1: not saying we shouldn't have hardwired beliefs. I'm not shouldn't

563
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: saying we shouldn't have opinions. I'm just saying that it's

564
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: probably a good idea to keep some humility around it.

565
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Speaker 1: And you know, like everyone thinks they're open minded unless

566
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Speaker 1: you agree with what they disagree with what they think.

567
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: You go, well, you're not open minded. Well, you're open

568
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: minded with things you don't care about or don't know about,

569
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Speaker 1: but when it comes to the things that you think

570
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: you think are true, then you're closed minded. Ergo, don't

571
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: follow me, don't talk to me, only follow me if

572
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: you're like me, right, the concept of an awareness bigger

573
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: than you and really being objective, which is pretty impossible,

574
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Speaker 1: so I'll say that, But truly open minded, that's a

575
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: real hard gig.

576
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Speaker 2: It's the amount of times I've had conversations with people

577
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Speaker 2: and people that So you and I both talk a

578
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: lot about psychology, and.

579
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Speaker 3: I do a lot of gas adversity in.

580
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: Trauma and our minds and our psyche on the show,

581
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: and I'm fast by it, and I'm fascinated by understanding

582
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 2: why we behave the way we behave and what story

583
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 2: led to that, And so I'll have these conversations with

584
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Speaker 2: people about that, and the amount of times I've also

585
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: at times had conversations with those same people where they're

586
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: talking about a person and they're judging the behavior, or

587
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: they're making comments that disregard everything that has been a

588
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: learning or a point of discussion from these other types

589
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: of conversations. And I'm always astounded by that because i think,

590
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: hang on that, where did that knowledge go or where

591
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: did that understanding, you know, in those previous conversations, and

592
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: now we're just back to judging someone without any account

593
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Speaker 2: to what they might have experienced.

594
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and think about even the idea of I

595
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: think objectivity is a confusing like being truly being open minded,

596
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: which is like where just to arm a blank canvas? No,

597
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: you're not like I'm talking about this, right, I'm studying this.

598
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm am I open minded? No in that, let me

599
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: qualify that. Am I completely open minded? No? Am I

600
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: much more open minded? Slash objective slash less concerned with

601
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: being right infinitely more than I used to be. I'm

602
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: not saying, go me, I'm great, I'm going to I

603
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: just realize, like, if I'm being honest, I've fucked up

604
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: a lot of things. I've done businesses that didn't work.

605
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: I've done speaking engagements that were crap. I've given advice

606
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: that was wrong. I've had meetings that blew up. I've

607
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: had I've had poor outcomes with coaching. I've had why Well,

608
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: because I'm like everyone, I'm a little bit broken, a

609
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: little bit brilliant at times depends, and I get shited wrong,

610
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: and I'm going to continue to get shit wrong. And

611
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: this just this honesty we've gone. I'm going to get

612
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: shit wrong, could be wrong now. But you think about

613
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: the concept of objectivity, is that there is nothing, no

614
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: existing thought, value, belief, personality, trade. You know that that

615
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: would influence how you see something. Well, that's just not

616
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: true for anyone, because everyone has got certain beliefs and

617
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: ideas and values and expectations and desires and culture and

618
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: personality and a unique brain that sees the world a

619
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Speaker 1: certain way. And go on and more and more and more,

620
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: and stories and experiences logged. You know, and I know

621
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Speaker 1: there are certain topics that I won't talk to you

622
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: about now, but there are a couple of topics where

623
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: you fucking fire up in seven seconds. Right. You are

624
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: not objective, You are definitely biased, and you definitely have

625
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: a strong and someone else can go but what about this,

626
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: and you be like fuck that because this right, and

627
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: that's cool. That doesn't make you bad, that makes you tiff,

628
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 1: you know, depending on what it is, I would probably

629
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: do the same. But yeah, that kind of that bigger

630
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: than you awareness, like ah, this is yeah, so this

631
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: is like which is I mean, as we said before,

632
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: there are some people who might still be hanging in

633
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: here going fuck and how this is so boring talk

634
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: about something interesting for God's sake right now. If you've

635
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: still hung in and you think that, well, you're a

636
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,439
Speaker 1: glutton for punishment. But then there are other people going,

637
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: oh this is this helps me? Like this is interesting

638
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: because on a level, we are all the same. We

639
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: all self sabotage, we all get in our way, we

640
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 1: all have moments of brilliance. We all have a moment

641
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: where we're a prick. We all have a moment where

642
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: we're a gift to somebody. Sometimes we do smart things,

643
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: sometimes dumb things. Sometimes we're strategic, sometimes we're emotional. You know,

644
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: we're all looking through our own individual lens at the world.

645
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: There's what's happening, and then there's our story. And so

646
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: when you start to understand your own mind and your

647
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: own stories and your own kind of bias, like, having

648
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: bias is not bad. Having bias is just who we are.

649
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: So I'm quite if I'm being open and honest, I

650
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: have a Christian bias because I was raised in that,

651
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, and can I acknowledge that a lot of

652
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: Christian religions, denominations, I should say, under the banner of

653
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: and a lot of the practices and habits and even

654
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: kind of dogma around Christianity, I think it's bullshit. I

655
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: think it's destructive. Some of it, I think a lot

656
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: of it is beautiful wisdom. But if I'd done a

657
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: deep dive into a lot of other religions or traditions,

658
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: I would say the same. I'd say, there's stuff in

659
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: here that I don't think so and then there's like,

660
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: look at this, this is gold. Read this this is transformative,

661
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: you know. But I'll read something that's transformative and someone

662
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: else that will be double dutch.

663
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: I want to ask you back on the podcast front,

664
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Speaker 2: what was hard for you? But also what has been

665
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: your why Because you've done over two thousand episodes, You've

666
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: done you know, daily for a very long time, and

667
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: that's not easy. And you know, I know that's not

668
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: making millions and millions of dollars. So there's a really

669
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: strong wine I'd love to know.

670
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, So for me, it's not a thing. I think

671
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: it's multiple things. So I'll just start with the the curious.

672
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: So part of its curiosity, part of it's altruistic, part

673
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: of its personal development for me, and part of it's

674
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: are strategic and commercial, so not in order of importance,

675
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: but like, I like meeting people. I like having meaningful conversations.

676
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: And I know that's very cliche, but that is true.

677
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: And I think what other people might not think is

678
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: because okay, how do I say this? I think I

679
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: am operationally, not inherently or genetically, but day to day

680
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: operation and function. I think it's not the right word,

681
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: but in inverted comm is smarter than when I started

682
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: the show because I've spoken to so many people who

683
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: have a kind of intelligence or skill or gift or

684
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: awareness or knowledge that I do not have. So I

685
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: always say, hang around with people who drag you up, right, Well,

686
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: that's me every episode, you know. I know it's a

687
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: little been a little bit. Well, I was going to

688
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: say it's been a bit me teacher, you student. But

689
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: there have been times when intentionally or not, you've taught

690
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: me things or like full disclosure. We've spoken about this

691
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: because we're open books, because you and I are very

692
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: much almost like pseudo dad daughter or pseudo big brother

693
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: younger sister. Right, so there's been times when you and

694
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: I have had the shits with each other. Right, it's

695
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: like fuck, you know, fuck you a little bit, not

696
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: in a you know, but we've had to sort through stuff,

697
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: and I've got times where I've kind of I've had

698
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: to learn I've had to read the Tifth Manual because

699
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: the Craig Manual is not the Tifth Manual. But when

700
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: I talk to you in a way that I might

701
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: talk to me if there was another me, it doesn't

702
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: fucking work. And I also know what you value, and

703
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: so I try to give you what you value and

704
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: speak your language, not because I'm being strategic, but because

705
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: that's the kind of an expression of love is working

706
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: with someone in a way that resonates with them. And

707
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: it's like when you put up your post about your

708
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: thousand's episode. You know, I just put up something short.

709
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was, something nice with it,

710
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, like one sentence, and then you wrote back

711
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: all this super nice stuff to me, which was much appreciated.

712
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: But it's like just for me being able to have

713
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: meaningful conversations like this where you're constantly in the moment,

714
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 1: but you're also assessing where we're at. I'm also thinking

715
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: about how long have we been talking, how long should

716
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: this go for? How do I wind it up without

717
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: it sounding like we're halfway through something when we wind

718
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: it up. So there are so many cognitive factors at

719
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: play in terms of managing the situation, but then also

720
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: just the experience. So for me, it's just something that

721
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: I really enjoy. And yeah, there are times when the

722
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: new project is commercial great, and there are times when

723
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 1: that's not the case. But I don't like me doing

724
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: this is not about money. If we make good money,

725
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: that's fucking fantastic. And we've got sponsors and we're partnered

726
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: with Nova Entertainment and all of that, and I value them,

727
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: appreciate them, and value every dollar that a sponsor pays

728
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: all that kind of shit. But if I would never

729
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: do this for money, because I can make more money

730
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: doing one speaking gig than thirty podcasts. Kind of, it depends,

731
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: you know, it depends on next. I genuinely like finding

732
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: out about people and what drives them, and you know

733
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: how they talking to somebody like what's his name, old mate,

734
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: Professor Jeffrey Reddicker from Harvard Medical School, which he's known

735
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: the guy that started Netflix? Mark what is his surname? Anyway,

736
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: Like talking to that dude, it's like this guy built

737
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: he created Netflix. He's a billionaire, and he's talking to

738
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: me like we're two blokes at the cafe. And it's like,

739
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: I don't have access to these people ever. But when

740
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: you've got a podcast that ranks okay, and you've got

741
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: two thousand episodes in the can, and you send them

742
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: a list of like here's fifty people that you will

743
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 1: know that I've interviewed, and so you build this whole,

744
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, then selfishly, I get access to people that

745
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: I would never meet and I don't have to you know,

746
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: it's not like, ah, I'm seeing what's his name anyway,

747
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: it'll come to me. But Mark who started Netflix.

748
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 3: Rand Mark Randelf, Yes, thank you.

749
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: Thank you. But I've got to pay him ten grand

750
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: for twenty minutes of his time to talk to him.

751
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: And he was so that guy was so generous and

752
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: so kind. And I said to him, I don't know

753
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: if you remember this, but you might not have been

754
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: on it. And I said, at the end your ace,

755
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: I go, can we be friends? He goes, of course,

756
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: And I go, when I come to Colorado, I think

757
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: Colorado where he lives in the middle of the wilderness

758
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: and he works two days a week, right, but he

759
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: works like sixteen hours each day, and then he has

760
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: five days where it's just all about his kids, his wife,

761
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: his grandkids, kayaking, mountain biking because he lives in the

762
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere. And I'm like, this dude has got

763
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: it sorted out because he doesn't do nothing. He works,

764
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: but he's incredibly productive and efficient for two days and

765
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: then not and his team is not allowed to contact

766
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: him for the five days unless the joints burning down.

767
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, he's got that sorted And just that

768
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: encounter with me Mark Randolph here, that's it. He made

769
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: a bigger impact. I can't remember his name, you know,

770
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: but then like being weird, like Johnny Raffo, who's no

771
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: longer with us, I'm so glad that I got to

772
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: meet him and we connected and I loved him and

773
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: he was so great. And Danny Frawley who was on

774
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: the show, who's no longer with us, who I trained

775
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: him at some killed her and we were friends and

776
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: it was great to have. We had a talk of

777
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: a deep, kind of almost heart wrenching story about mental health,

778
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: you know. And then sadly he passed away five six

779
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: months later. And then doctor Gladys McCrary, who at the

780
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: time was one hundred and two or three when I

781
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: interviewed her, and so beautiful and so much wisdom. And

782
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, who gets to talk to one hundred and

783
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: three year old that's sharp as attack and smart and

784
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: was born when she passed away a year or two ago,

785
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: was born, like when cars were new, like cars were

786
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 1: a revolution, you know, planes were just literally getting off

787
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: the ground. You know, it's fucking amazing. And you know,

788
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: so many of those like those moments that I have

789
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: and they're recorded. And Simon Hammond, a friend of mine

790
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: who owned an amazing speaking agency and wrote a few books.

791
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: And Nima, my friend the pharmacist, who we did probably

792
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: ten to fifteen episodes, and he's passed away. And it's

793
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: like there's just been so many magic moments that for

794
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: me are just gifts, and you know, yeah, it's just

795
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,959
Speaker 1: I would not I would not stop this. There would

796
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: be have to be you know, if no one wanted

797
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: to listen, then okay, you know, but I don't know, yeah,

798
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: just yeah, for me, it's been a gift that I

799
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: didn't it was like an unexpected gift. Probably started off far.

800
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: Let's do this thing because I'm not bad at talking.

801
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: I've worked in radio. I can interview people. But this

802
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: is radio without breaks, without fucking weather checks, without station idea,

803
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: without we.

804
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 3: Get a few station ideas. Let's be honest.

805
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: Good There at SAPs from the new project coming at

806
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: your live. It's currently five pasts out. I think top

807
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: fourteen degree today. Our big Pine City by the Bay

808
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: coming up next. It's tiffing a bullshit, but first a

809
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: little bit of a Casey in the sunshine man walking

810
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: on Sunshine. You're welcome. I'm working. No, I don't do

811
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: any of that.

812
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 3: Tell me what has been the hardest for you.

813
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:24,839
Speaker 1: What's been the hardest for me? Okay, what comes to mind.

814
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: Dealing with negative feedback has been interesting, but I like it.

815
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: Somebody wrote the other day and I'm not at all

816
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: mad at him, that was a really good podcast and

817
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: whoever it was, the guest actually got a chance to talk.

818
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: And I'm part of me wanted to go fuck you,

819
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, which, whoever, that was definitely not

820
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: fuck you. But I'm like, yeah, I still do that,

821
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: Like I still I'm like, oh, fuck, you know, like

822
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: I still make mistakes, Like I'm pretty good at this.

823
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: I guess yes. But if someone said, you know, like

824
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: you've done a lot, and you know, do you reckon

825
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: you're somewhere near ten, I'd go, no, I reconom a six.

826
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: I economic six. Yeah, and some days I might produce

827
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: an eight or an eight and a half, or the

828
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: end product might be an eight or an eight and

829
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: a half. As as people know, Melissa ranks every episode

830
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: or the ones that she listens to. But yeah, I

831
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: think that I think developing like a flow and a cadence,

832
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: learning to be as natural as you would in a

833
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: one on one conversation at a cafe like we are. Now,

834
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: have you.

835
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 2: Have you done any structured like strategic listening or adapting

836
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: how you run a conversation or trying to get better

837
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: in that way?

838
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: Incidentally, because like if somebody says, I love that show

839
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: so much, like somebody said the other day, I've listened

840
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: to all of your podcasts. Oh it was the one

841
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: where Bobby coached me.

842
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,959
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was great And.

843
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: Bobby coached me and I did you listen to that?

844
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm like, I don't know if I want

845
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: to do this, Like we're talking about like we've spoken

846
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: about leadership and coaching and self awareness and you know,

847
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: how to community and we'll talk. Him and I were

848
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 1: talking afair about coaching, and I said, do you want

849
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: to coach me? And I'll take off the typ hat.

850
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: I'll take off the Craig Harper faking hat, and I'll

851
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: take off the you know, the host hat, and I

852
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: will be a client and I'll be real and I'll

853
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: be I won't. I won't, I won't be strategic. I'll

854
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: just be vulnerable and what yeah, and I got I

855
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: don't know if I cried a fucking I cried fucking

856
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: every tenth episode I'm pathetic, but I definitely got emotional

857
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: and it was definitely hard, and he definitely asked a

858
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: few questions that I felt like going, fuck, you don't

859
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: ask me that. Like I didn't, but I felt like

860
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: stopping it and going, nah, I'm not to go on there.

861
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:32,479
Speaker 1: But I went there. Yeah, and then yeah, a few

862
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: people like, we got a lot of feedback. Compared to

863
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: the normal amount of feedback, We've probably got three or

864
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: four times. We've probably got three or four or five

865
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: times the likes. If you're wondering where I'm talking about

866
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: our Facebook page? Did you project? Uh? Facebook page? Project group? Yeah,

867
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: And like I listened to that and I went, oh,

868
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: and I did not enjoy listening to it. But I

869
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: want to hear what it is that people like, you know,

870
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: and it's always you know, it's like some people really

871
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: love when I do a thirty minute solo and I'm

872
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 1: essentially doing a fucking pep talk. Get your shit together,

873
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: stop fucking around. You know, I love you, but don't

874
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: be a fuck with kind of thing. Right, you don't

875
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: need to cheer squad, You don't need to put up

876
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: a picture of your fucking breakfast. Right, you don't need

877
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: to do that, you know, and people some people will

878
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: not like that because that doesn't suit them or they're

879
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: not ready for that chat or whatever, and other people like,

880
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: thank you so much. That is exactly what I needed

881
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: to hear. And that's so you've got to be a generalist,

882
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 1: because you you're definitely not. You know, it's like the

883
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: biggest podcast in the world, Joe Rogan. I hear more

884
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: hate about Joe Rogan. Like the people that go to me, oh,

885
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: what a fucking and generally the people let go what

886
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: a fucking idiot? Have never listened to one episode. But

887
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: what they've is they've seen clips here and there, and

888
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 1: they based there there. You know, it's like they didn't

889
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: see the film. They saw a thirty second reel of

890
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: the film, and now they're an expert commentator on the

891
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 1: film that goes for three hours and they saw thirty seconds.

892
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: But I don't like people have literally said to me,

893
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: I don't need to listen to a podcast. He's an idiot.

894
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, now, I'm not promoting Joe Rogan. I'm

895
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: just going I listened to some I'm like, not interested

896
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: in the topic, not interested in the guests. See you later.

897
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: And then somewhere he's got some brainiac on and people

898
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: think he's dumb based on it some perception. I'm like,

899
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: I could give you some podcasts where you listen and

900
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: yes he swears, and yes he fucking smokes cigars and

901
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: occasionally dope on the thing, and yes he's a UFC

902
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: commentator and interviewer, and yes he owns a comedy club. Yeah,

903
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: but you know, it's like, Okay, you don't need to

904
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: like him, but don't. Don't don't think you understand somebody

905
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 1: and then run him down because you saw seven seconds

906
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: of something that didn't resonate with you. Or you've got

907
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: a friend that you really like and respect who says

908
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan's a fucking idiot, So therefore Joe Rogan's a

909
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: fucking idiot. You know. Do I have a cringe at

910
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: what he says? Yes? Do I ever get a light

911
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: bulb moment? Yes? I reckon.

912
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 2: We have been primed. I did a rant on this recently.

913
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 2: I reckon, But I reckon the world is priming us

914
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: to make fast judgments and hit outrage just in general.

915
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 2: You know, like I talked about how everybody is tear,

916
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 2: how we tear other people down. Yes, we can't just

917
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 2: have an opinion. We have to now stitch somebody else's

918
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 2: content into I don't do it, so I shouldn't be

919
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 2: saying ow or we.

920
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 3: But that's why our talk.

921
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 2: We stitch people's point of view a tiny snippet of it,

922
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: and then we say why it's shit, So we tear

923
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: other people down to because and the algorithm loves it

924
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 2: and we get all these accolades. That is priming human behavior.

925
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 2: That goes back to the cognitive bias that you talked

926
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: about before, and no fucking good can come of it.

927
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 2: And we know it's shit, but we're being it as

928
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 2: a fucking as humanity, as a human race.

929
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: M it's not cool. You know, this is in the

930
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: ballpark of what you're talking about. I just want to

931
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: share something which sorry, folks, this will be a little

932
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: bit laborious, but it might be interesting. So I have

933
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: this conundrum at the moment with social media and people know,

934
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, I might, I don't know

935
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: how many words? What's the I think we talk like

936
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: something like one hundred to one hundred and fifty words

937
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: a minute in a normal conversation, or a bit more.

938
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: But let's say over an hour, what's sixty times one

939
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: hundred and six thousand words six seven eight thousand words

940
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: in a one hour podcast something in that ballpark, right,

941
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 1: And in the course of that hour, I might swear

942
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: I don't know ten times. I'm not sure. So there's

943
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: ten swear words and seven thousand non swear words. People

944
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: just some people will send me messages about the ten words,

945
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: and so the ten words they ignore the seven thousand, right,

946
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: and all they invest their energy in is the ten

947
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: words or the five words. But the irony is in

948
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: other forums, like on social on Facebook for example, Like

949
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: the other day, I did a test and I'd written

950
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: two posts, and the first post was essentially about the

951
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: message underneath was how to utilize more of your potential? Well,

952
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: I work in the human behavior develop your potential, think better,

953
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: do better, be better, psychology space, right, And so I

954
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: gave eight points to help people move the needle on

955
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: being able to tap into their own potential with the

956
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: understanding that you're not going to get any more potential.

957
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: You're not going to get more You might get more skill,

958
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: more awareness, more understanding, more knowledge, whatever, more resources, but

959
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: your potential is set. How much of it, will you exploit?

960
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: So I wrote out these eight what I think are

961
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: really good points. Now I just want to give the comment.

962
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: So on that post. Now, I've got nearly seventy thousand

963
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: followers on Instagram right forty seven likes on this I

964
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: think is a very solid post. One comment, two people

965
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: shared it on their own platform, and eleven people shared

966
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: it with someone else about Within the same hour, I

967
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: wrote another post, and I just knew that this post

968
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: would go all right, but I'm sick of having to.

969
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: It's like if I write two posts the same post

970
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: and one's got air force C in it, I'm not

971
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: even going to say the word everyone, So there you go,

972
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: there you go. You're fucking welcome.

973
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 3: You've said it.

974
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm joking. But so I wrote the C word right now.

975
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: I wrote the C word, and then I had an arrow.

976
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: So the heading is that word, and then not always

977
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: an insult, and then so it is the first line

978
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: is then I'm kind of giving it like a breakdown.

979
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: C word not good, funny sea word that's good, smart

980
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: C word, context dependant, good C word, social approval, sneaky

981
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:45,919
Speaker 1: sea word usually bad, smamy S word, socially repellent. Now

982
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: Now this has been up for less time than the

983
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: other one, and I literally said the C word. One's

984
00:59:55,280 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: seven times. Now three and a half thousand likes, fifteen

985
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: thousand and seven hundred shares, so fifteen thousand. Now that's

986
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: not the like. By the way, there's been nearly quarter

987
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: of a million people that looked at this post views. Right,

988
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: it's only been up a few days, so over fifteen

989
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: and a half thousand people shared this message. But the

990
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: other message, which was really good advice and sound kind

991
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: of coaching and psychology, nobody. And this is my conundrum. Right,

992
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: And by the way, nearly one hundred comments, one hundred

993
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: and eighty shares that people on their own page. They

994
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: put it on their own page, and then fifteen and

995
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: a half fifteen seven people sent it to someone, right,

996
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: and heading towards quarter of a million views. Now here's

997
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: my conundrum. When I don't swear, my numbers go down,

998
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: like literally, my followers drop off. If I say the

999
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: same message, we're swearing goes up. My I forget here

1000
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: it is? How on? Let me find it? So this one,

1001
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: which is not too much swearing, but of course life's

1002
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: a shit show. And then it's awesome and then you're

1003
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: sad and then happy, and then it's lunchtime. Your challenge

1004
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: is not to create a perfect life, but rather to

1005
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: thrive in the inevitable imperfection of it all. But the

1006
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: fifth word in that is shit. Now that's been shared

1007
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: nearly thirty thousand times. And let me just look at

1008
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: the numbers. Two million and seventy eight, six hundred and

1009
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: thirty four views. Right if I put the same post

1010
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: up with no swearing, it would not reach twenty thousand views,

1011
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: so twenty two million. So this is this is tricky,

1012
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: and so that's and right now I don't know the solution.

1013
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: I don't know the solution because I really don't want

1014
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: to be I just swear because that's how I talk.

1015
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: I don't swear for effect, I don't, you know. And

1016
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: there are times when the situation it's inappropriate that I swear,

1017
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: so I don't. But if you're with me at the gym,

1018
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: if I'm with the crab, if I'm with your bloke,

1019
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: if we're you know, I swear. I don't swear all

1020
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: the time, but we might work out for an hour

1021
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: and I say fuck four times. Whatever it is right.

1022
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: I might go to a corporate gig. I say it's

1023
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: zero because I have enough awareness to go, this is

1024
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: inappropriate in this spot with these people getting paid this

1025
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: money doing this job. And so yeah, it's like the

1026
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: human algorithm, and you go, well, the main negative feedback

1027
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: I get. I get way more positive negative. Thank you everyone.

1028
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: But the main negative feedback I get is about swearing.

1029
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: And then if you look at my books, I've written

1030
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: seven books and the one with fuck on the front

1031
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: cover has outsold all the other books all together sales

1032
01:02:55,840 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: by about five up fifty thousand sales with Stop Fucking Around,

1033
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: and in Australia a bestseller is ten thousand, also self published.

1034
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 3: It's interesting. It's been interesting to know if.

1035
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 2: It lands differently in a written form than people hearing it,

1036
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 2: you know, like because obviously there's a different demographic on

1037
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 2: Instagram than there is in a podcast. You have a

1038
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 2: different audience in those platforms. But it would be a

1039
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 2: really interesting exercise to have the same audience and.

1040
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 3: Write with the.

1041
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 2: Same amount of swear words in your writing and have

1042
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 2: them read it as to listen to it and see

1043
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 2: if that if the response was the same.

1044
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's I mean, if.

1045
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 2: I swear a lot way too much for a very

1046
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 2: feminine lass like myself, you know, lady like.

1047
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: Lady, hey, can you get chipped back on?

1048
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 2: But I remember a time when when I started editing

1049
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 2: my podcast, word I don't like the sound of Quite

1050
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 2: often I.

1051
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 3: Like the sound of females swearing. It's not as it's

1052
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 3: not nice, but I do it.

1053
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: But I started swearing less on the show, and if

1054
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 2: I remember in the early days cutting some of the swearing.

1055
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 3: Out because I was like, oh, just sounds terrible.

1056
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 2: I like saying it doesn't land that way in conversation,

1057
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 2: but I didn't like listening to it.

1058
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: So it's interesting, Yeah, I think also like, what's that

1059
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: old dude professor something ash? What's his name? Amtmi? This

1060
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: old beautiful Indian professor. So is this combination of like

1061
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: academia and intellect and spirituality and like my favorite kind

1062
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: of person. Right, I'm like, oh, I could just sit

1063
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: at his feet like a kid and listen to him.

1064
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: And the moment that I got on, I had a

1065
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: distinct awareness that it would be totally inappropriate, right, And

1066
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 1: so I didn't. So you kind of read the room

1067
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 1: a bit, you know, and you know there's that Yeah,

1068
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. But anyway, that's a conundrum. I don't know.

1069
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna it's hard because I don't

1070
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: want to. Like sometimes I'll write something and I know

1071
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: if I put a C word in there, it's going

1072
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: to go way better. Yeah, and more people will read it,

1073
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: you know, more brand better exposure, da da da da da.

1074
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, so what do

1075
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: I do for a job? My main income is speaking

1076
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: to groups, right, I go, well, the more, well, like,

1077
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: we just got an inquiry today unless it goes to me.

1078
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: Just before we went on, she goes, are you going

1079
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,919
Speaker 1: to You just got an email from a New South

1080
01:05:54,960 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: Wales police and for a moment my sphincter snap like

1081
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: could you fucking finish that sentence? You know? But they

1082
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: potentially want me to go and do some work with them.

1083
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: But I'm thinking, there's no way I'm getting that gig

1084
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: unless I've got the profile that I've got, you know.

1085
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: And yeah, You're like, it's like, well it's and it

1086
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: can sounded egotistical work. The bottom line is the more

1087
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: if you are a speaker, you're selling your time, your knowledge,

1088
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: your skills. But if you're I'm not saying I'm brilliant.

1089
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: But let's say you're a brilliant speaker, but nobody fucking

1090
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: knows who you are because you have no public presence.

1091
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: No one knows you. It doesn't matter how brilliant you are,

1092
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 1: you're not getting gigs. Yeah, so it's that conundrum. Well,

1093
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: I've got to work, I've got to pay the bills,

1094
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: and if fifty thousand followers is good, then one hundred

1095
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: thousand is better because it you know, and it might

1096
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: only increase it a little bit. But you know, we

1097
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine percent of I would say, I'd

1098
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: say probably ninety nine percent of people who listened to this,

1099
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: which I'm completely happy with and understand will never spend

1100
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: one cent at the Craig Harper store, if you know

1101
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: what I mean, right, And I do that knowingly and gladly.

1102
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: And this is in no way suggesting anyone does. But

1103
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you know that this is what you do.

1104
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: This would be the worst branding and marketing. Like if

1105
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: your job was to get bums on the seats, this

1106
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: is the worst way to do it because it's such

1107
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: a slow grind, and you think, well, I don't know

1108
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: what I've done like twenty one odd one hundred or more.

1109
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: You go, well, if each one of those is an hour,

1110
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: that's twenty one hundred hours like this one's gone for

1111
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: longer even and then all the editing and then the

1112
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: writing copy, and then the know you sitting there or

1113
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: Melissa sitting there making it make it sound better than

1114
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: it did before because someone's audio was crappy, and then

1115
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: adjusting and regulating and doing all the clever shit that

1116
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: you two do. Yeah, you would not do this to

1117
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: become famous or rich. Yes, Hey, it's been good. I

1118
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: don't know if anyone else enjoyed it, but I did

1119
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 1: so suffering your jocks, everyone else and all our overseas

1120
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: listeners will not know what that means. It's fun, though

1121
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 1: it's tongue in cheek again. Congrats on your thousand go you,

1122
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm glad you're not dying of the lurgie.

1123
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: Tell you, bloke, he's a good man. Just squeeze him

1124
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: on the ass for me and tell him that's from me.

1125
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: I was going to say on the edge on the

1126
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: end of the dick, but that's inappropriate, so I'll just

1127
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: leave it.

1128
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 3: To us and getting around in your flanny, mate, he's

1129
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 3: getting around.

1130
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: I left my flanny in his van everyone and then

1131
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: Tiff sent me photos of him wearing my fucking flanney.

1132
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: He probably catch something, all right, splaining great. Thanks Cook, Bye,