Speaker 1: But I to use that room in that bed as
Speaker 1: my wrestling bedrace to wrestle my teddies on there.
Speaker 2: That's really sweet. I'm surprised you admitted that to the podcast.
Speaker 1: But here we have Well, I went on to become
Speaker 1: a wrestler, so that was just me training as a kid.
Speaker 2: Where's Your Head At?
Speaker 3: Is a podcast that talks all things right. Hold on
Speaker 3: a sec, let's give this a refresh. Hi.
Speaker 1: I'm Anna and I'm Matt and we are now too
Speaker 1: newlywed not to each other. Just a female and male
Speaker 1: best friend here for the good, the bad, and the
Speaker 1: ugly times.
Speaker 3: And exploring adulthood, family relationships, dilemmas.
Speaker 1: And whatever else we have the mental capacity to deal with.
Speaker 2: Come get the lowdown.
Speaker 1: This is your male and female perspective.
Speaker 3: So, Matt, Where's your Head At?
Speaker 1: Good morning, Anna, Good morning. I'm actually being listening to
Speaker 1: Matthew McConaughey's audiobook Greenlight.
Speaker 2: And did he say that on it?
Speaker 1: Not yet? Not yet. He hasn't said it yet. He's
Speaker 1: just talking about like his childhood and growing up. It's
Speaker 1: pretty interesting so far.
Speaker 2: You're on the audiobook train at the moment, Yes, I am, so.
Speaker 1: I'm still reading my goosebumps to everyone out there. So
Speaker 1: I'm reading that when I can, But when I can
Speaker 1: listen to audiobooks, I'm listening to them. The more how
Speaker 1: do I put this, more I don't want to say,
Speaker 1: like harder ones, but the more you know, in depth ones.
Speaker 1: Plus I'm listening to Matthew McConaughey. Can I complain with that? No?
Speaker 2: Is it his voice?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, it's him talking. Yeah, very he is a
Speaker 1: fun fact on this podcast. His mum and dad got
Speaker 1: married and divorced three times to themselves.
Speaker 3: That's wild. That's what you call a love hate relationship.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, he tells some stories about how they hate
Speaker 1: each other and how they loved each other. It just
Speaker 1: seemed really intense their relationship.
Speaker 2: Toxic, toxic love.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were some toxic stories in there. But it's good,
Speaker 1: Like I'm still on Like he's not even graduated school yet.
Speaker 1: That's the start of his life story. But it gives
Speaker 1: some good inspirational not quotes, but like stories and like
Speaker 1: ways of looking at things.
Speaker 2: So something you'd recommend listening to.
Speaker 1: Definitely definitely recommend to people. I've bought some other ones
Speaker 1: on the app as well. Some more that relationship ones
Speaker 1: because I wanted to listen to them to bring them
Speaker 1: into the podcast. So there was one like I could
Speaker 1: go through. But I'll post them on their Facebook page
Speaker 1: for everyone to listen to when I'm done with them,
Speaker 1: and what I recommend sounds good.
Speaker 3: I'm just sitting here eating a blueberry muffin, minding my
Speaker 3: own business.
Speaker 2: You can have some.
Speaker 3: Actually, it's quite big breakfast. And I'm mentioning that because
Speaker 3: I got mum shamed for the first time ever already
Speaker 3: because I wasn't eating carrots and cucumbers right. So, basically,
Speaker 3: on TikTok, I posted a video saying that one of
Speaker 3: my pregnancy craby was eating hash browns. Obviously, I'm not
Speaker 3: having hundreds of hash browns, but if I'm passing McDonald's,
Speaker 3: I'll be like, oh yeah, let's get me a hash.
Speaker 2: Brown in a water. Anyway, this is the McDonald's hash
Speaker 2: brown They are good, aren't they.
Speaker 3: And I feel like when you're pregnant, not in the
Speaker 3: first timemester, only recently I've found this things taste.
Speaker 1: Better really to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and hash browns taste better, fruits taste better.
Speaker 1: Because all your senses are heightened.
Speaker 3: I don't know maybe maybe anyway, So I posted this video,
Speaker 3: was like, my craving is a hash brown blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: It's like lighthearted, it's a joke. It's not a joke,
Speaker 3: it is my craving. But like, yeah, you mean anyway,
Speaker 3: I get a comment from a girl and she says,
Speaker 3: I can't relate. I would never put McDonald's in my
Speaker 3: body in general, let alone whilst I'm pregnant. Very mum
Speaker 3: shamy vibes, and honestly, I I've never been mum shamed.
Speaker 3: So I saw the comment and I was just like, whatever,
Speaker 3: like you do you? The comment also went on to read,
Speaker 3: I'm thirty weeks and I've had no cravings because I've
Speaker 3: been in a calorie surplus the whole time.
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 3: So she's basically, obviously is someone who tracks their calories.
Speaker 3: So like, let's just say you want to eat sixteen
Speaker 3: hundred calories in a day, she's eating more than that,
Speaker 3: and she believes that that has stopped her from getting
Speaker 3: sick whilst pregnant. Anyway, I was not expecting the amount
Speaker 3: of mothers, mums, mums to be that came to my defense. Really,
Speaker 3: so many women were so furious essentially, And I realized
Speaker 3: in that moment that you did not fuck with mums
Speaker 3: because they are not having it.
Speaker 1: So did they stick up for you and say that
Speaker 1: you can't eat McDonald's? Is there anything?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Scientific eating McDonald's.
Speaker 3: World, And like the thing is is, obviously the person
Speaker 3: who's made this comment is having a really good pregnancy, Like.
Speaker 2: They're not sick.
Speaker 3: She can eat a certain amount of calories, she's obviously
Speaker 3: tracking her calories. I don't track any of my food intake,
Speaker 3: calories anything like that. I just kind of eat what
Speaker 3: I feel like or what my body's craving.
Speaker 2: But generally I eat quite healthy.
Speaker 3: But yeah, if I want to get a hash brown,
Speaker 3: I'm going to go get a hash brown. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it was just it's good to remind ourselves
Speaker 3: that not everyone has the same experience. So my pregnancy
Speaker 3: journey is not like her pregnancy journey. Like I'm if
Speaker 3: I'm not taking it on dan Zatron to stop me
Speaker 3: from having my head in.
Speaker 2: The toilet all day, Yeah right, Like I'm.
Speaker 3: Not living my life. So she it's good for her
Speaker 3: that she can do that, but for me, that's not possible.
Speaker 2: And for a lot of people. It's not possible, and.
Speaker 1: She shouldn't pass judgment on you because you crave a
Speaker 1: hash bran.
Speaker 3: I think that's like, how ridiculous even to say it
Speaker 3: out loud. Well, I so still to be like, I would,
Speaker 3: you know, to make someone feel guilty about that. I
Speaker 3: think it's hard enough to carry a baby, and you
Speaker 3: know all of the body changes and the highs and
Speaker 3: lows emotionally, all of the hormones spiking, you know, the
Speaker 3: sciatica pain. I could go on all of the different
Speaker 3: aches and pain throughout the body. I think if someone
Speaker 3: wants to eat a hash brown, let them live their
Speaker 3: life and just focus on yourself.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I feel like twenty twenty five, mum shaming is out.
Speaker 1: It's not a thing.
Speaker 2: It's not a thing. We're not doing it. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to put up with it.
Speaker 3: So if anyone feels like mum shaming me again, I
Speaker 3: will be calling it out because I'm not having it.
Speaker 1: On the whole eating McDonald's thing. I saw a real
Speaker 1: or a TikTok I told you this about a motivational speaker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he was saying, what does Usain Bolts eat? Two
Speaker 1: weeks leading up to his race. Yeah, and he said
Speaker 1: he eats McDonald's. Really, he said he eat to take
Speaker 1: McDonald's chicken like nuggets and that because he gets the
Speaker 1: ride around of protein from it and the ride around
Speaker 1: of calories and all that. But it won't make him
Speaker 1: sick because McDonald's is the most like policed and governed
Speaker 1: thing around the world that it's like, won't make you sick. Really,
Speaker 1: I don't know find that vide. I shouldn't go on
Speaker 1: this podcast saying shit that I've seen half watched in
Speaker 1: a TikTok hole, but that's what he said.
Speaker 2: Be fair. I've never got sick from McDonalds.
Speaker 3: I have got sick from Subway though I was eating
Speaker 3: Subway through my pregnancy.
Speaker 1: But I'm having it for lunch. I'm gonna have it
Speaker 1: for lunch.
Speaker 2: You should eat it for lunch.
Speaker 1: I'm craving it now.
Speaker 2: You should edit it for lunch.
Speaker 3: Okay, mat, we have to talk about Katie and Tim
Speaker 3: from Married at First Sight?
Speaker 1: Yes, but before we go any further, I would like
Speaker 1: to just have a PSA. I have not started watching maths.
Speaker 3: Maybe a formal apology to everyone?
Speaker 1: Did I promise We'll have to roll back the tape
Speaker 1: I think he did.
Speaker 2: He said you were going to do it.
Speaker 1: Sorry, guys, I'm sorry life got in the way where
Speaker 1: we're in the middle of severance. If anyone's been watching
Speaker 1: that very good TV show, we're watching that and just yeah,
Speaker 1: life got in the way. And I mean, I do
Speaker 1: enjoy watching Maths, but so hopefully maybe I'll get to
Speaker 1: give it another go later.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to tell you about this couple, O
Speaker 3: Katie and Tim. They look like a really well matched pair.
Speaker 3: I'm going to show you a photo of them, and
Speaker 3: you can tell me what your thoughts are just from
Speaker 3: looks wise alone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, from looks alone.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, they look like a well matched couple. You
Speaker 3: would say, yes with no information.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they look like my parents, my mate's parents. Okay,
Speaker 1: you go around to mate's house.
Speaker 3: Anyway, This guy Tim, he goes to the Bucks party
Speaker 3: and he gives this whole spiel about he's the nicest
Speaker 3: guy ever and he gets really hurt by.
Speaker 2: Women and like, what was me?
Speaker 3: And it's like a bit of a pity party, sympathy
Speaker 3: vote type of card.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Katie walks down the aisle, looks like everything's going well.
Speaker 3: And then after the wedding, He's like, she's not my type.
Speaker 2: I'm not into her.
Speaker 3: Previously he said he doesn't have a type. Now night Skuy,
Speaker 3: Tim has a type. He likes short blondes or brunettes,
Speaker 3: which is really mean because the only other thing is redhead.
Speaker 1: And yeah, my mom is still telling me about this briefly.
Speaker 1: Apparently it's petite blonds or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently he likes petite blondes. He is bigger than her,
Speaker 3: so technically she's petite.
Speaker 2: Let's be real, you know, like, let's be real. Tim.
Speaker 3: I just hate how he's making her feel. And I think,
Speaker 3: you know, when you watch Married at First Sight and
Speaker 3: there's a few people there and you're like they really
Speaker 3: need to find love, Like the pressure is on for
Speaker 3: the producers, like they need to make this work. There's
Speaker 3: a part of me that just thinks, did they do
Speaker 3: their due diligence with this guy?
Speaker 2: Because just saying you're a nice guy, I mean sometimes
Speaker 2: when someone.
Speaker 3: Says they're a nice guy, it actually means the opposite.
Speaker 3: It's like when you claim to be something, like you
Speaker 3: just need to show people that you're a nice guy.
Speaker 3: You're not claim the nice guy anyway. He's basically completely
Speaker 3: rejected her, is giving her nothing.
Speaker 2: It's really heartbreaking to watch.
Speaker 1: Is it like they're in the same hotel room and
Speaker 1: it's like really awkward.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So after the after the wedding, she was like,
Speaker 3: do we go on the honeymoon? Then if you're not
Speaker 3: that into me, they've gone. So I'm assuming he said
Speaker 3: yes and he's just giving her nothing honeymoon somewhere cold
Speaker 3: and miserable, which was like pretty much, yeah, I know
Speaker 3: this isn't in Finland.
Speaker 2: It's somewhere in Australia cold. I think it just looks
Speaker 2: like a negative experience.
Speaker 3: Okay, And yeah, I'm really feeling for Katie because this
Speaker 3: thing that pisses me off the most is he's acting
Speaker 3: like he's way better than her and he can do
Speaker 3: way better than her, and it's like you can't.
Speaker 1: Apparently a lot of the comments were rinsing him, being
Speaker 1: like you can't do better.
Speaker 3: Blonde here, Yeah, and like if you're missed a nice guy,
Speaker 3: then just give it a go, see how it, see
Speaker 3: how it unfolds. Like, obviously I would never go on
Speaker 3: married at First Sight number one because I'm married, but.
Speaker 2: Also because.
Speaker 3: You know, if you have a specific type. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: I can choose out of multiple people, Like, I'm not
Speaker 3: just gonna have someone.
Speaker 1: Did you.
Speaker 2: Almost fell off my chair?
Speaker 1: True?
Speaker 3: But like you know what I'm saying, Like I wouldn't
Speaker 3: have someone pick one person for me if I wasn't
Speaker 3: going to give it a go. So the fact that
Speaker 3: he's signed up to this experiment, agreed to give it
Speaker 3: a go, put it out there. I don't have a type,
Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden someone's walked down the aisle.
Speaker 3: Who he's like, that's not for me, Like, come on, dude,
Speaker 3: I get it that you don't just want to be
Speaker 3: matched up with someone, but you have to give it
Speaker 3: a go if you're there, that's my opinion.
Speaker 1: Anyway, let me know how it goes. I might tune in,
Speaker 1: and I might, but well, I'm not promising anything because
Speaker 1: don't want to let people down.
Speaker 2: I'm not, well, you already let us down. That that's real.
Speaker 1: At what point I don't know. Yeah, I don't like
Speaker 1: reality t there, you know that.
Speaker 3: But it's so good because it's interesting seeing people's interactions,
Speaker 3: even for your own relationship to be like interesting how
Speaker 3: they interact.
Speaker 1: Okay, tal Tammy, if she puts it on, I'll watch
Speaker 1: it I'll text her right now, yeah, because I'm not
Speaker 1: going to go put it on.
Speaker 3: So, Matt, you are in Melbourne at the moment. You've
Speaker 3: been here for a week. It's been Actually i'm gonna
Speaker 3: say nice having you. This is like the second time
Speaker 3: I've seen you. So it's been nice or not that nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been I've been down yet, been down in
Speaker 1: Melbourne for the week. I'm helping my old man out
Speaker 1: with some work. He's helping him organize an expo for him.
Speaker 1: But that's funny because the last time I was down
Speaker 1: in Melbourne for more than a day, let's say without
Speaker 1: my wife, man, the internet loses their mind, don't there's
Speaker 1: articles specifically the media. Yeah, I was going to say
Speaker 1: all of them lose their mind. They think we've gotten
Speaker 1: divorced or breaking up her on the rocks, they going
Speaker 1: this huge and it's it's like when I see it
Speaker 1: or get it sent to me, I'm just like, what
Speaker 1: is going through people's minds to like get that narrative
Speaker 1: and like like we're married, happily married. I can come
Speaker 1: down and work and stay in Melbourne like I've got
Speaker 1: you know, obviously friends here work here, so like I
Speaker 1: stay here. There's nothing wrong with that. And she, my wife,
Speaker 1: grows up and sees the kids, takes them to school
Speaker 1: and all that.
Speaker 3: You have the Expo every single year you have done
Speaker 3: since I've known you, So it's not like a shock
Speaker 3: that you are here this week.
Speaker 2: But yeah, obviously people see that you guys are.
Speaker 3: In different states and I'm not going to say freak out,
Speaker 3: but they're like, oh, what's going on there?
Speaker 2: Like what's happening? So yeah, it's to clear it up, guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, it's just more than anything, you just
Speaker 1: got to laugh about it and just be like, real,
Speaker 1: this's what it is.
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys are from different states as well.
Speaker 1: This is true.
Speaker 2: Let's not forget and Tammy.
Speaker 3: As much as she would love to, like she said
Speaker 3: it before, she would love to be with you here
Speaker 3: in Melbourne, she has responsibilities on the Gold Coast.
Speaker 1: She can't just she has kids, she.
Speaker 3: Exactly, she has the three kids, she has two businesses,
Speaker 3: she has her whole family there.
Speaker 1: So you know, we FaceTime every night, we literally all
Speaker 1: day every day pretty much. But like you know, it's nothing,
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with it. Good And it's like a double
Speaker 1: edged sword because you said that she's got to go
Speaker 1: up for her responsibilities. But then when she comes down
Speaker 1: to Melbourne, they lose their minds as well, and they're
Speaker 1: all like, why is she there? Why isn't she with
Speaker 1: the kids. She's like running off with Matthew and all
Speaker 1: this sort.
Speaker 2: Of stuff, and really it's like, so you can't win.
Speaker 1: You can't win, you can't win. It's just yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just funny.
Speaker 3: So would you say you guys are sleeping in separate
Speaker 3: beds at the moment.
Speaker 1: Yes, we are. Let's get into the endzde. So just
Speaker 1: for everyone, Tammy and I are only sleeping in separate
Speaker 1: beds because we're in different states at the moment. Correct,
Speaker 1: Christ We still FaceTime each other from the bed and
Speaker 1: Acquack we're doing pillow talk, but we are in separate
Speaker 1: beds because they're in different states.
Speaker 3: Okay, mat So, now that we have clued all of
Speaker 3: that up, we thought that we would do an episode
Speaker 3: on sleeping in separate beds or how you sleep with
Speaker 3: your partner. There's lots of interesting facts on this. And actually,
Speaker 3: since getting pregnant, I found it really hard to get
Speaker 3: to sleep, stay asleep, whatever. So Michael and I have
Speaker 3: been doing this new thing. And it turns out it's
Speaker 3: an actual method. It's called the Scandinavian sleep method, and
Speaker 3: it basically is when couples are sharing a bed, but
Speaker 3: they each have their own separate douvet or sheet or whatever.
Speaker 3: So basically Michael is sleeping with the douvet and I'm
Speaker 3: sleeping with a sheet because I'm running really.
Speaker 2: Hot at the moment. And yeah, it's just working well
Speaker 2: for us.
Speaker 1: Well on that this this actually clears up something with me.
Speaker 1: When we were on our honeymoon Finland, the master bed
Speaker 1: had to douner covers like rolled up every time they
Speaker 1: would like clean.
Speaker 2: The roads were bed ones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were like on each side of the bed,
Speaker 1: and I was just say, I never understood why. I
Speaker 1: didn't ask anyone what. I was just like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's part of their culture. I guess. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: why they do this, but I guess it's because of
Speaker 1: that Caandinavian sleeping method. I guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's popular in the Scandinavian country. It's like Sweden,
Speaker 3: Norway and Denmark. So that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Well, black lean's right neardy, yeah, right at the top there,
Speaker 1: So that makes sense that that cles on that well,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't use one each.
Speaker 2: We've just put it at half of one each.
Speaker 1: No, Like we're just like to, well, how mean you
Speaker 1: did say? Because when we were there, She's like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to sleep on a separate thing. I want
Speaker 1: to be like entwined and you so like we yeah,
Speaker 1: title anyway, so you can just use the one.
Speaker 2: That's the thing I reckon.
Speaker 3: Although we are sleeping in the same bed but with
Speaker 3: different sheets, it does kind of feel a little bit disconnected.
Speaker 1: It would, I feel like because you're.
Speaker 3: Not like cuddling, You're not touching at all, not really,
Speaker 3: because like Michael's got the full dinner and I'm kind
Speaker 3: of wrapped up in the sheet.
Speaker 1: Okay, but yeah.
Speaker 3: In the mornings, obviously we cuddle, and before bed we cuddle,
Speaker 3: but then during the night we separated.
Speaker 1: Do you turn around or do your face.
Speaker 2: I'm moving every five seconds.
Speaker 1: You know. It's funny you say that, because I've had
Speaker 1: that problem over the years a lot where I run
Speaker 1: hot in bed and partners run cold.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So have you spoken about this a lot?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I have. Yeah, So I've done that method before,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't that deep. Is that, like, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean it was just like I would
Speaker 1: sort of have a sheet on and like half cuddle
Speaker 1: or something, but like it was never like an actual
Speaker 1: like talked about dress issue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well, being pregnant, I can't even sleep
Speaker 3: on my back anymore. Like I think it's at twenty
Speaker 3: eight weeks, you have to be sleeping on one side
Speaker 3: or the other side. Like you can't sleep on your back,
Speaker 3: so I'm constantly moving from like side to side.
Speaker 1: I always said psychopaths fall asleep on their back.
Speaker 2: I love sleeping on my back.
Speaker 1: Apparently I love it.
Speaker 2: I miss it.
Speaker 1: I fall asleep on your back, though.
Speaker 2: I think so. I don't know, but I love sleeping
Speaker 2: on my back.
Speaker 3: And the fact, you know when it's like someone says
Speaker 3: to you can't do something, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: it makes you want to do it more.
Speaker 1: So you're sleeping back. Apparently I sleep on my back,
Speaker 1: but I couldn't fall asleep on my back after on fall.
Speaker 1: You're on your side on my stomach.
Speaker 3: Like I never minded side sleeping until it was the
Speaker 3: only thing I could do now, And like off it.
Speaker 1: Do you cuddle a pillow between you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got pregnancy pillows, so I fully am cuddling.
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm Michael has been replaced with the pregnancy
Speaker 3: pillow this out. But I mean, there are some pros
Speaker 3: to the Scandinavian sleep method, so obviously you do get
Speaker 3: a better quality sleep because your partner, Like if your
Speaker 3: partner is snoring or moving or has different sleeping habits you,
Speaker 3: it can actually disturb you in the night. I'm personally
Speaker 3: gonna say that Michael does not disturb me in the night.
Speaker 3: But do you think Tammy disturbs you?
Speaker 1: No, I don't like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or like if they do, like you wouldn't even
Speaker 3: really notice it. But if you's just definitely separate, you
Speaker 3: are going to technically have a better quality sleep.
Speaker 2: There's more space. It's like back back back.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that I've obviously been this week away
Speaker 1: in Melbourne, I've been sleeping in a separate bed. I
Speaker 1: feel like I've been getting worse night sleeps because I'm
Speaker 1: not used to sleeping by myself.
Speaker 3: I've always said this, I get a much better night
Speaker 3: sleep when I'm sleeping in the same bed as my partner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm used to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: Like when I was single, I was not sleeping well,
Speaker 3: I was having sleepless nights.
Speaker 1: Well, you're used to it at that point, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I never had like the best nights of sleep, especially
Speaker 3: when I lived by myself. I think I was I
Speaker 3: just wasn't sleeping well. But this is talking about you're
Speaker 3: sleeping in the same bed as a partner. You just
Speaker 3: might not be touching, so you're on like you have
Speaker 3: separate covers basically, yeah, so you would have more space
Speaker 3: then because you're at different ends of the bed. It
Speaker 3: also says that you can have an improved relationship. So
Speaker 3: some couples find that the separation actually strengthens their relationship.
Speaker 3: But Matt's like looking at me, like, I don't know
Speaker 3: about this. I agree there are a lot of cons y,
Speaker 3: a lack of intimacy obviously, because if you're not entangled
Speaker 3: in your partner. Also, like I feel like you'd have
Speaker 3: less sex. Yeah, I definitely had less sex. I mean
Speaker 3: I think we've had less sex than moving pregnant.
Speaker 1: Why. I think cuddling in bed is like one of
Speaker 1: the main and.
Speaker 2: Then you could like potentially it could lead to sex.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's initiate sex. A lot of the
Speaker 1: time because you're like, you know, there's a couple of
Speaker 1: pokes here and there, a couple of strokes, you.
Speaker 4: Know, folks and strokes. Yeah, folks and strokes. You're like
Speaker 4: tickling like a backticle. Yeah, kisses, Okay.
Speaker 1: A couple of neck like kisses.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it cuddling leads to sex, so I could
Speaker 1: see how lot totally.
Speaker 3: So obviously lack of intimacy, less sex. Then there's also
Speaker 3: miscommunication or distance in the relationship, so that could create
Speaker 3: emotional distance if not managed well. And I actually said
Speaker 3: to Michael and he hates it when I say this
Speaker 3: to him, I was like, I feel disconnected to you
Speaker 3: one morning when we woke up and we weren't cuddling
Speaker 3: in the morning.
Speaker 1: I can see that's that could feel what's the word disconnected? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you cuddle and wake up in the same bed
Speaker 1: for connected, Yeah, I can say that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: Also question, how many couples do you think sleep in
Speaker 3: separate beds in Australia.
Speaker 1: So completely separate beds. Yeah, I think it's more common
Speaker 1: than we.
Speaker 3: Reckon how many if you had to say a percentage,
Speaker 3: thirty thirty percent?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, so of couples, that's.
Speaker 1: So close, but that's still high than I thought. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would, like, you know, you're in a couple, you
Speaker 1: sleep in the same bed.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So according to a twenty seventeen survey by the Sleep
Speaker 3: Health Foundation, they said that eighty percent of couples report
Speaker 3: to sharing.
Speaker 2: The same bed.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: So yeah, not ideal if you're the twenty percent. But
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's a reason. What do you think some
Speaker 3: of those reasons could be.
Speaker 1: Matt, Well, I've always said that if like in an
Speaker 1: iron or if we have a row, I'm made to
Speaker 1: sleep in a separate bed or go sleep on the couch,
Speaker 1: I am not coming back to the bed that's being done.
Speaker 1: That's very sleep now.
Speaker 3: So you're making it a boundary. You're not getting kicked out.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to kicked out of that. And I
Speaker 1: understand that like some people are, like you know, in
Speaker 1: arguments and relationships, go go sleep on the couch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's my fucking bed. That's my place. Like, I'm
Speaker 1: not getting kicked out and he kicked out of my
Speaker 1: own bed.
Speaker 3: Michael has never been kicked out of the bed because
Speaker 3: he's a sweet angel of a husband. Yeah, but I
Speaker 3: can't say the same.
Speaker 1: They spent a lot of time on the couch.
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time on the couch. Some
Speaker 2: of them actually probably liked the couch in.
Speaker 1: The end, Well, that's where they slept every night. I've
Speaker 1: just said, I've honestly said, I'm not I'm not if
Speaker 1: I go to the couch, I'm never coming back in
Speaker 1: the bed.
Speaker 2: That's my Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I think you have to understand some of the
Speaker 3: reasoning behind and why someone would get kicked out onto
Speaker 3: the couch.
Speaker 1: Well, I know, I know that my old man slept
Speaker 1: in the spare room for a long time with their relationship,
Speaker 1: my mum and dad's relationship, because he was getting up
Speaker 1: at dawn's crack and going to going to work, and
Speaker 1: like she didn't want him to wake up the whole
Speaker 1: to the house, so he was down stairs on the
Speaker 1: other end really, so yeah, he could just get up
Speaker 1: and go.
Speaker 2: And was that like the end of their marriage.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there was other factors to it.
Speaker 2: I think I was saying it was towards it was
Speaker 2: towards the end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And they're probably saying to us as kids, this
Speaker 1: is because he doesn't want to wake up. But I
Speaker 1: to use that room in that bed as my wrestling
Speaker 1: Bedroce to wrestle my teddies on there.
Speaker 2: That's really sweet. I'm surprised you admitted that to the podcast,
Speaker 2: but here we have.
Speaker 1: Well, I went on to become a wrestler, so that
Speaker 1: was just me training as a kid.
Speaker 3: I think some other factors that could influence people not
Speaker 3: wanting to be in the same bedroom is snoring. My
Speaker 3: dad is a very big snorer, but recently was diagnosed
Speaker 3: with sleep apnea and now has I don't know if
Speaker 3: you've seen these, but the sleep out of paratus.
Speaker 1: Are they louder than snoring?
Speaker 3: Okay, it's like funny because you like an elephant kind.
Speaker 1: The only thing that reminds me of is I don't
Speaker 1: know if you remember this. Maybe our millennial listeners will remember.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the episode of The Simpsons when Arnie
Speaker 1: Zip tries to seduce Marge and then at the end,
Speaker 1: Homer's got the mask on and it's like, I am
Speaker 1: watching you through you. If you don't know, then you
Speaker 1: don't know. But I'm sure people are listening at home
Speaker 1: would remember it. Well.
Speaker 3: Forty four percent of couples cited snoring as a major
Speaker 3: factor influencing their decision to sleep apart.
Speaker 2: So it's actually pretty.
Speaker 1: High, is Michael snare? No, do you snore when.
Speaker 2: I'm drunk right, which you haven't been for a while.
Speaker 1: Apparently I'm a snorer.
Speaker 2: But the thing is is, like, how would you know?
Speaker 1: I've been told people say.
Speaker 3: Imagine if imagine if someone like pretended that you were
Speaker 3: this like huge snorer and it was really disrupting this
Speaker 3: sleep You actually don't make a peep.
Speaker 1: Well, I remember, I remember this is where we had
Speaker 1: you remember when you go when you're a kid and
Speaker 1: you go on those like outward bound camps, those those
Speaker 1: real rough at camps in like that year level in school.
Speaker 1: I remember when we're filling out the form. I was
Speaker 1: sleeping in one of the downstairs with the downstairs room
Speaker 1: at that point, and my mum was like feeling it
Speaker 1: out and it was like sleep walking. And she was like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you sleep walk or not, Like
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. You could be just I
Speaker 1: could think you're just like hear noises. I could you
Speaker 1: think you're doing something else? So she said yes to
Speaker 1: sleep walking. So the leader of our the leader of
Speaker 1: our camp group made me which was the best spot
Speaker 1: was in the middle of our you know, the makeshift
Speaker 1: tense and all my mates are so pissed off. They're like,
Speaker 1: you don't sleep walk, blah blah blah, and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: my mom thinks I do. So I got like the
Speaker 1: best The best position was in the middle because you
Speaker 1: don't want to be on the outside because you're in
Speaker 1: the middle of the snowy mountains. You don't know what's
Speaker 1: going to get you. You know, there could be lions, tigers,
Speaker 1: and bears. So I had the best position the whole time.
Speaker 1: Thank you to thank you for that much.
Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, like you don't know, you got
Speaker 1: to go off for other people say, because you don't
Speaker 1: know if you sleep walking or story.
Speaker 3: Totally absolutely, and I think, you know, it's funny, like
Speaker 3: it kind of just like brought me back to step Brothers.
Speaker 1: Literally was thinking that as well, but was like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to keep the story going for too long.
Speaker 1: But I remember, yes, and they're.
Speaker 2: Like putting like the handbag in the oven and all
Speaker 2: of that stuff, and fuddy.
Speaker 1: Another factor for sleeping in separate beds could be the
Speaker 1: same as what my parents told me as a kid
Speaker 1: is Yeah, it's different sleeping schedules. So obviously my old
Speaker 1: man would get up, like I said, at dawnt and
Speaker 1: just so he didn't wake up the whole family, and
Speaker 1: Emma was a young baby then, so he would just leave.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I have a friend as well who her and her
Speaker 3: partner are literally like ships in the night. Like he
Speaker 3: is a trade is up at five am, gets home
Speaker 3: at three. She's leaving the house because she's an actress
Speaker 3: at two pm and getting home at one am in
Speaker 3: the morning.
Speaker 1: My sister and her fiance have sort of the same
Speaker 1: setup at the moment when she's a night shift.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you just need that cuddle time because
Speaker 3: that's the only time you get.
Speaker 2: To see them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, no, they sometimes they don't cross beds. Really
Speaker 1: are you saying they don't They won't see each.
Speaker 2: Other because they have like a few hours in bed together.
Speaker 1: Oh really? Okay, Okay, No they don't. They wouldn't cross
Speaker 1: pass in bed.
Speaker 3: Have you ever had times in your life where you're
Speaker 3: quite stressed out, things aren't like really going the way
Speaker 3: you want it to, and you are having really bad
Speaker 3: night sleeps. Because I can pinpoint when I'm feeling stressed
Speaker 3: because my sleep goes so downhill so quickly.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to lie to you, Anna, And this
Speaker 1: is I might be very lucky in this. I I
Speaker 1: don't need to wink of sleep. If I go to sleep,
Speaker 1: I go to sleep. I need wink of sleep.
Speaker 3: So you wouldn't wake up in the middle of the
Speaker 3: night and be anxious about anything.
Speaker 1: Well, probably the last time I did that was maybe
Speaker 1: like years ago. I haven't done that for a long time. No,
Speaker 1: you will be a good life, Yeah I am.
Speaker 2: I think that you'd be a bit more stressed than that.
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm stressed. But when I
Speaker 1: want to go to sleep, I want to go to sleep.
Speaker 1: There's nothing getting in between me.
Speaker 2: Nothing's getting in between me and my sleep.
Speaker 3: No, I mean I, like I've said before, I can
Speaker 3: sleep on a plane.
Speaker 2: Like that, like so easy. But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think when I'm going through a stressful period in
Speaker 3: my life, I will have sleepless nights.
Speaker 1: So would you say, then if you're sleeping with Michael,
Speaker 1: that would take away that stress.
Speaker 3: It can, Like they say a seven second hug can
Speaker 3: relieve stress.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do.
Speaker 3: They say that men who have I don't know, what
Speaker 3: is it like a fourteen second kiss, make out, kiss
Speaker 3: before work, live longer, like you know, having a partner.
Speaker 3: There's all of this good stuff that comes with specifically
Speaker 3: for men.
Speaker 2: I feel like, because.
Speaker 1: Men, we're doing the studies to try to get more
Speaker 1: from our partners. You're what they do that we're making
Speaker 1: up the stats so we can get longer kisses more.
Speaker 3: Probably, but according to a sleep counsel study in twenty seventeen,
Speaker 3: almost a third of us are getting a poor night's sleep,
Speaker 3: and forty five percent said the reason for that was
Speaker 3: stress and worry. So you are in the fifty five
Speaker 3: percent of lucky people who don't don't wake up with
Speaker 3: stressed and then obviously twenty five percent was partner disturbances.
Speaker 1: So well, Tammy gets up apparently multiple times, I'm saying apparently,
Speaker 1: like I'm not saying she's lying, like sometimes I've seen her,
Speaker 1: but like I don't know, I sleep straight through it.
Speaker 1: She gets up and goes to the bathroom.
Speaker 2: For the toilet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, multiple times in the night, and I don't wake up.
Speaker 1: I sometimes have like you know, tossed over. She's hear it, well,
Speaker 1: I've just gone to roll over and she's not there,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what the fuk is on? And I
Speaker 1: see you, like at the bathroom light on, but like
Speaker 1: I've never like never wakes me up. Yeah, I sleep
Speaker 1: through all that.
Speaker 2: But I'm reading I'm so annoying with that.
Speaker 1: I a smug look on my face. Ad, Yeah, you're so.
Speaker 2: Proud as well.
Speaker 3: Not like I've been having a good night sleep as well,
Speaker 3: like obviously pregnant.
Speaker 2: It makes things a little bit more challenging.
Speaker 3: I have been getting up once a night to go WI,
Speaker 3: which is not ideal because my sleep being disturbed.
Speaker 1: But then again, if I wake up in the middle
Speaker 1: of the night. We had literally this conversation the other day.
Speaker 1: If I got up and if I wake up for
Speaker 1: some reason in the middle of the night, I only
Speaker 1: go for like to the toilet for a piss. I
Speaker 1: will not get out of bed.
Speaker 3: What you just will put yourself back to sleep. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I've been trying to do that. I'm trying to put myself.
Speaker 1: I just fall back straight back asleep. A couple of
Speaker 1: houses I've lived in, like I remember my one of
Speaker 1: the ones when I lived in before the remember the
Speaker 1: bathrooms on the other side of the.
Speaker 2: Hand, and that the floor was creaky.
Speaker 1: It was like a haunted house from that, and I
Speaker 1: was like, there's no way I'm getting out of bed
Speaker 1: and walking all like naked on the cold house. Yeah
Speaker 1: it was a cold house. Yeah, I'm not putting like,
Speaker 1: you know, shorts on to walk all the way down
Speaker 1: the house. My rooms don't seeming naked Like. Am I
Speaker 1: comfortable that? So I just fall back asleep. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have been trying to put myself back to sleep.
Speaker 3: But I mean the thing is is I'm saying that
Speaker 3: I don't like my sleep disturbed. I'm five months pregnant,
Speaker 3: so you know sleep is about to be extremely disturbed disturbed.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So well, I mean I'm sure we'll talk about that.
Speaker 2: At the time, I've probably been a foul mood, I reckon.
Speaker 3: The worst mood that I was ever in was when
Speaker 3: Michael and I were flying from Europe, I think it
Speaker 3: was Rome back to Melbourne and we had a long
Speaker 3: flight and I pushed myself to stay awake the whole flight.
Speaker 3: We got to Dubai Airport and the flight was delayed
Speaker 3: by six hours and I hadn't slept the whole time,
Speaker 3: even though I really wanted to, and I was so exhausted,
Speaker 3: and I just remember being in the filthiest mood I've
Speaker 3: ever been in in my life. I was so pissed
Speaker 3: off and Michael just I felt bad for him. We
Speaker 3: still talk about that flight to this day because I
Speaker 3: was just so filthy, because I just needed to sleep.
Speaker 2: You know, when you were just so exhausted and like
Speaker 2: your eyes.
Speaker 3: Are closing that you need to sleep, Like I just
Speaker 3: needed to sleep.
Speaker 1: Lay it down on something or chairs because I've any Singapore.
Speaker 3: It was like pretty full at the time, and everyone's
Speaker 3: flights we're getting delayed, so it was like packed, so
Speaker 3: there was nowhere to go over.
Speaker 1: The last time I was in Dubai, it was so
Speaker 1: hot at the airport as well, and I'd come from Melbourne,
Speaker 1: so I had like, you know the track he's on
Speaker 1: and a jumper and I'm just being like sweaty ass, I'm.
Speaker 2: So ready to travel.
Speaker 3: Even just talking about yeah, okay, Matt, whether you're having
Speaker 3: a good night sleep, a bad night's sleep, or somewhere
Speaker 3: in the middle and just maybe.
Speaker 2: Getting up for a week in the middle of the night.
Speaker 3: We want to clarify you and Tammy are still sleeping
Speaker 3: in the same bed. Me and Michael are still sleeping
Speaker 3: in the same bed, although we are doing this Scandinavian
Speaker 3: sleep method.
Speaker 1: Yes, the title is we are sleeping in separate beds.
Speaker 1: That was a pure clickbait guys. Sorry for that. Sorry,
Speaker 1: but that's yeah, we're sleeping in the same bed. I'm
Speaker 1: just out of town at the moment.
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