1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Good team. It's Harps Today. I want to talk to 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: you about overthinking the propensity we have to overthink things, 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: to keep ourselves awake at night, to not do things 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: that we should do because we're overthinking it, to overthink 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: and underdo and underperform and cripple ourselves with fear and 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: anxiety and self doubt and imposter syndrome. Because we are 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: scared of something. We are scared of failing sometimes, we 8 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: are scared of fucking up. We are scared of looking silly. 9 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: We are scared of not belonging or being loved or 10 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: valued or respected or heard. We are scared of pain 11 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: and discomfort and messiness and uncertainty. And so we just 12 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: stand on the sidelines and do nothing, the metaphoric sidelines 13 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: and do nothing. So what I don't have day is 14 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 1: a three step solution. Because we are all different, there 15 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: is no for virtually anything in life. There are very 16 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: few three step solutions to any problem, challenge, sickness issue 17 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: that works universally as effectively for everyone. So rather than 18 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: give you a solution, I might give you some thoughts 19 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: and ideas around it. But I want to talk to 20 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: you about why we do it. And I think if 21 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: we can understand why we do it, how we do 22 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: it when we're most likely to do it, then we 23 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: can figure out, perhaps for ourselves, a strategy or a 24 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: path that we can take that might turn down the 25 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: volume or eliminate or reduce the analysis paralysis that we 26 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: have going on. So I have been an overthinker. I've 27 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: spent a lot of my especially younger life, not longer life, 28 00:01:53,440 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: as I almost my younger life overthinking things because because 29 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: I was scared, let's just be absolutely transparent and honest, 30 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: I was scared of not being good enough, and then 31 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: by not being good enough, other people would know that 32 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: I wasn't good enough, that I wasn't you know what 33 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: one of my big fears was for a very long time. 34 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: I don't even know that I've ever said this out loud. 35 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: And this really stopped me. This really stopped me from 36 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: doing a lot of things. And I spent a great 37 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: deal of time overthinking, over analyzing things because I thought 38 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: this sounds weird. It's true. I had a deep seated 39 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: belief that I wasn't very smart. And I don't really 40 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: even know from where that came, but I just thought 41 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't smart and I thought that if I said something, 42 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: or if I made certain decisions or I took certain action, 43 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: that people would know, that people would discover because I 44 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: felt like, for a long time I was getting away 45 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: with it. And you know, there are still times when 46 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: I feel that, and I'm a bit self deprecating in 47 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: some of the shows and all of that, but I 48 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: genuinely feel at times not smart enough. But there was 49 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: a long period of my life, I would say, until 50 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: my mid thirties, where I genuinely thought I was relatively 51 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: stupid and I was kind of lucky I was getting 52 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: away with it and people hadn't figured out how stupid 53 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: I was. And so part of that that fear, that 54 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: self doubt, that self loathing, that lack of self belief 55 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: that led me to over analyze and overthink so many 56 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: things and so many things that I could have done 57 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: that I didn't do. Opportunities I could have taken or 58 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: could have created, and results I could have produced I didn't. 59 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: Because I overthought everything. I created my own form of psychological, emotional, 60 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: and behavioral paralysis. I overthought the shit out of everything. 61 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: So I think there are a couple of things to 62 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: factor in or think about and one is, you know, 63 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: like what can I do and what can't I do? 64 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: Or perhaps a better question is what's in my control 65 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: and what's not in my control? And we spend a 66 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: lot of time overthinking things that are actually flawed beliefs 67 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: like I'm not good enough. If I do this, they 68 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: won't like me, they won't love me. I will And 69 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: by the way, of course, some people are going to 70 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: not like you, and some things you're going to be 71 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: shit at, and some things you will fail at, and 72 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: sometimes you will look silly, and sometimes you will get embarrassed, 73 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: as will I, as have I many times. But in 74 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: order to at least create some kind of progress in 75 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: this space of overthinking and turning down the volume on it, 76 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: a little part of that is being mature enough and 77 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: emotionally and psychologically resilient enough to say I could fail, 78 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: I could look silly, I could fall down. It might 79 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: not work, some people might not like it or me, 80 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: it might not be a positive outcome, and that's okay, 81 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: and not just say that, but be true in that 82 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: it's okay. I might fuck up, I might fail, and 83 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: it's okay. And also tacking on to the end of 84 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: that because I know when I do hard things when 85 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: I do take a chance, when I do step out, 86 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: when I do allow myself to be vulnerable and get uncomfortable, 87 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: and perhaps put myself in a process or a situation 88 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: where the outcome might not be what I want, and 89 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: I could get all of those things embarrassed or or 90 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: rejected or whatever it is. In the middle of that, 91 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: I learn about me. In the middle of that, I 92 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: developed skill and knowledge and understanding and awareness and competence 93 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: and resilience. And it's not until we step into our fears, 94 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: or face our fears, or lean in a little bit 95 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: that quite often the volume goes down on the overthinking. 96 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: So overthinking is generally about fear. What is the fear? 97 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: What am I afraid of? I was very afraid for 98 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: a very long time of all of those things that 99 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: I said, not being good enough, not being smart enough, 100 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: being embarrassed, being a failure, what people. I was very 101 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: worried about what people thought of me, because I felt 102 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: and nobody did this to me. This was just a 103 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: byproduct of things. And I don't blame anyone, and I'm 104 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: not mad at anyone, but one of the byproducts of 105 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: my childhood and my teenage years was that I didn't 106 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: feel enough, good enough, attractive enough, skinny enough, light enough, 107 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 1: smart enough, creative enough, funny enough, socially acceptable enough. I 108 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: didn't feel all of those things. Now, the truth was 109 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: that I probably was enough. But being enough and believing 110 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: that you're enough are different things. So the challenge for 111 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: us is not to find some magic switch to turn 112 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: off the overthinking, but to rather understand ourselves and understand 113 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: our overthinking. What is the source of this cognitive mayhem? 114 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: Why is it so busy in my head? What am 115 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: I really really scared of. I'm scared of failure. I'm 116 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: scared of rejection. I'm scared of having no money. I'm 117 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: scared of being uncomfortable or embarrassment or uncertainty, your unfamiliarity. 118 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: What if I took that chance? What if I just 119 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: addressed all of this with courage? What if I went, well, yeah, 120 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: all of those things could be happed, could happen, But nonetheless, 121 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to make a decision. I'm going to step forward. 122 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to step up, not down. I'm going to 123 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: take a chance. I'm going to lean in, and quite often, 124 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: if not most of the time, what happens is that 125 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: thing that we were terrified of proves to be false. 126 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: It proves to be something that we didn't need to 127 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: be that scared of. And when we do it, all 128 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: of a sudden, we change our relationship with that thing 129 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: that was terrifying, and now instead of it managing us, 130 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: we start to manage it. The fear goes down our 131 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: relationship with that thing. We do something uncomfortable, we do 132 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: something we were scared of. We do something that perhaps 133 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: we didn't think we could do. We do it, or 134 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: we do a version of it. We build confidence, skill, resilience, 135 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: and now we're overthinking less. Do I ever think it 136 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: disappears for most of us. No, I think it's part 137 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: of the human condition. I mean, thinking a lot is 138 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: not the same as overthinking thinking a lot and and 139 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: being creative and solving problems and navigating and negotiating life 140 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: from that kind of epicenter of us, which is our mind. 141 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: That's very normal. I'm talking in this conversation about the overthinking, 142 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: that destructive overthinking that can derail our power, possibilities and potential. 143 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and 144 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: wrap up. All right, we're back. So I don't know 145 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: how good that was today. I'm overthinking how good that was. 146 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: I don't think it was brilliant, but I'm opening the door. 147 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: I could almost press the delete button on this episode, 148 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I'm 149 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: not going to give in to that fear. It's funny 150 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: that I have been overthinking this conversation about overthinking with you, 151 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: about how I might share it articulated, because I don't 152 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: have an answer, you know what I mean. I like 153 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: in inverted commas. I don't have and I've thoughts and ideas. 154 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: So in terms of opening the door and moving forward 155 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: on this for you and starting to get the wheels 156 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: turning on being less controlled by fear and being less 157 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: of a chronic overthinker, my questions for you are these. One, 158 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: what fear is at the core of your overthinking? It 159 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: might be many things, but I think there might be 160 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: a consistent, reoccurring theme for many people. It's the fear 161 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: of discomfort, whether that's physical, mental, emotional, social, or financial discomfort. 162 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: But what fear is at the core of your overthinking? 163 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: And also question two, I'm not even charging you for 164 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: this second question. I'm chucking it in. Fuck it. It's 165 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: how I roll. Question two is what am I currently 166 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: wasting energy on? What am I obsessing over? What am 167 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: I overthinking? What am I focusing on? Because where your 168 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: mind is, your emotion, where your emotions are, your body is, 169 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: and where all of that is, you are. What am 170 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: I currently wasting energy on that I need to let 171 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: go of. I'm going to overthink this episode for the 172 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: next day, so yeah,