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Speaker 1: Five double a nice with Matthew Pantalas. There's a new

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Speaker 1: app that has been launched called circle Talk, and it's

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Speaker 1: to help people living with disability like autism. For instance,

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Speaker 1: they're looking for a thousand people living with disability to

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Speaker 1: trial circle Talk. The CEO and founder is Liz Wildon,

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Speaker 1: who joins me now, Liz, good evening.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Matthy, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Told me a little bit about circle Talk.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, circle talk is a bit of an adviccy tool,

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Speaker 2: So it's for parents, carers and participants over age and

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Speaker 2: give them a little bit more agency in their information,

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Speaker 2: reducing repetition and inviting people into their circle. So I

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Speaker 2: have to keep repeating their information over and over again.

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Speaker 1: Okay, is it something that hooks up a user with

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Speaker 1: a service primarily? Is that what it aims to do?

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Speaker 2: No, it doesn't. It's really didn't shout of this is

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Speaker 2: what I need today. So especially some of those invisible

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Speaker 2: disabilities with FD or you know, autism, require brain injuries,

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Speaker 2: psychosocial early onset oltzime of some of those disabilities where

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Speaker 2: it's exhausting repeating the same information to various intake systems.

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Speaker 2: So well, once you sign up, you take into a

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Speaker 2: dashboard where you it's like a pie, and the top

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Speaker 2: part is the pie. You're the person in the middle

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Speaker 2: and they're the people you can invite into your circle, right,

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Speaker 2: and then bottom pace is the bottom part of the

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Speaker 2: app is the dashboard is the information. So there's no supports, nothing,

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Speaker 2: It's really a sort of strength space. This is what

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Speaker 2: I need. Is are my interests. This is what helps

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Speaker 2: us stay and study and transition into a workplace and community.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the sound of it is fairly you know, it

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Speaker 1: meets an obvious need. How difficult was it to create

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Speaker 1: an app that does that?

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good question. Look, I'm in a parent of.

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Speaker 1: Liz. We've got a really bad line, Liz. What I

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Speaker 1: might do is put you back on hold and we'll

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Speaker 1: I'll give you back the jess who might ring you back,

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Speaker 1: and we'll try and get you on a better line.

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Speaker 1: Because you're cutting in and out and I reckon, people

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Speaker 1: want to hear about what you've got to say. So

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Speaker 1: hopefully we can bring you back in just a sec.

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Speaker 1: But we'll just try another line, I reckon and see

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Speaker 1: what happens. But we'll get Liz wild and back circle

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Speaker 1: talk is the name of the app, and well it

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Speaker 1: should be good. I don't know. We'll give it a guy. Hi, Liz,

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Speaker 1: you can hear you a little bit better?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, lovely. Yes, what I was saying is to create it.

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Speaker 2: I'm an educator, I'm a parent and a manager. I

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Speaker 2: guess I had multiple lenses of family members with neurologic

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Speaker 2: condition and an ASD and another with Alzheimer's, and so

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Speaker 2: having those multiple lenses from as a parent and educator

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Speaker 2: and a workplace manager was a bit of a bit

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Speaker 2: of a privilege, I guess to help create and see

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Speaker 2: things from the perspective of the person living of those conditions.

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Speaker 1: So you're looking for a thousand people to give it

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Speaker 1: a well, I.

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Speaker 2: Am looking for a thousand people and mostly would love

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Speaker 2: their feedback if they once they download the app, they

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Speaker 2: can go to circle talk dot com dot au so

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Speaker 2: and if you have a look at the circle talk

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Speaker 2: website to give you a lot more information about how

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Speaker 2: it works.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And I can see from the dashboard there there's

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Speaker 1: a personal work medical. This is in the about me stage,

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Speaker 1: Education and training, Community, Social sensory mobility, So this is

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Speaker 1: the individual with the disability fills all that in and

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Speaker 1: I suppose what somebody else can access that ultimately.

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Speaker 2: Know what they can do is they can invite with consent,

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Speaker 2: they can invite supported into that circle. So it could

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Speaker 2: be anyone from a community member, a coach right through

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Speaker 2: to allied health professionals, parents, teachers, educators. If educators don't

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Speaker 2: want to well being managed and want to be invited

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Speaker 2: into the circle, then they can generate a PDF snapshots.

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Speaker 2: It's an instant snapshot of where they are today and

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Speaker 2: that could be passed on to casual relief teachers or

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Speaker 2: anyone that they give consent to. Because it's strength space,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing to sense. There's the medical sections locked just

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Speaker 2: for their building their capacity. But look, I know South

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Speaker 2: Australia do a lot of their the autism work within

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Speaker 2: schools extremely well so, and with what's happening there, there's

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Speaker 2: a little bit pioneers in that space.

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Speaker 1: It's not just for people with autism then, is it.

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Speaker 1: It's for people with a disability full stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yes. I did have one lady recently who has a

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Speaker 2: physical disability and who I asked her how many terrors

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Speaker 2: you'd had and she'd had over two hundred, which is

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Speaker 2: a mind blowing. So imagine trying to repeat her needs

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Speaker 2: over and over again. And as we all know, disability

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Speaker 2: is very dynamic, so it's exhausting to repeat, especially when

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Speaker 2: people are interests change, jobs change and might travel, housing changes,

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Speaker 2: support of group homes change, and they're constantly repeating their

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Speaker 2: needs and they're not always up to date. Individual learning

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Speaker 2: plans are those up to date? Employment access plans to

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Speaker 2: the community housing, group home informations and up to date.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's really just this is what I need

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Speaker 2: this week. Really in it it's very fast teap it's

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Speaker 2: but then they can see it instantaneous, changes instantaneously, and

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Speaker 2: people in all those stakeholders can help them keep up

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Speaker 2: to date.

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Speaker 1: Should government take this on, I mean the information that

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Speaker 1: someone puts in there, if they want to share it

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Speaker 1: to a government service, would they be able to do that?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? I Look, there's some of the existing systems. It

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Speaker 2: can be here, just as in especially if they're going

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Speaker 2: to upload a PDF. I'd love for parts of it

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Speaker 2: to be especially some of the sensory, non prescription natural

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Speaker 2: remedies that the information or things like calming strategies that

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Speaker 2: might be in the medical section that they might want

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Speaker 2: to keep private. I'd love that to be sort of

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Speaker 2: generated into the note section of the my health record.

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Speaker 2: At the moment, they don't. It's a very difficult in

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Speaker 2: a crisis situation if someone presents the hospital, the least

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Speaker 2: they've got it, their parents got it there on their phone,

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Speaker 2: or the person with the disabilities got it there on

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Speaker 2: their phone. At least they can in a crisis situation

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Speaker 2: they can access some of those other things that aren't

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Speaker 2: in the clinical documents. Yes, of course, we'd love you

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Speaker 2: can plug into two things Compass and Energetic and all

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Speaker 2: those school systems that pds can be outlated or just

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Speaker 2: a snapshot to the wellbeing team.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic. All right, this has taken you a couple of years,

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Speaker 1: I understand to get it to the stage.

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Speaker 2: Yes it has. I've been lucky in having a great

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Speaker 2: technical advisor but he's really knowledgeable in cyber safety, but

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Speaker 2: also some fantastic developers. But having mapping it out, trialing it,

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Speaker 2: we're constantly getting feedback from PEAT bodies and now at

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Speaker 2: health and educators and live basically trauma informed lived experienced years.

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Speaker 2: Has got a great ambassador who loves it, and some

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Speaker 2: great little test cases and some happy stories and that's

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Speaker 2: the most important thing here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, do we know how many people potentially, like

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Speaker 1: in Australia would benefit from this.

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Speaker 2: Anybody, anybody with their disability, they can claim it. I

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Speaker 2: mean we're hoping they can claim it the moment under

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Speaker 2: low cost assistive technology with the NDAs if they have

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Speaker 2: that funding which is just an annual fee and they

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Speaker 2: can claim that through the NDAs through the normal protocols

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Speaker 2: a letter from an OT or a speech or an

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Speaker 2: education specialist, but also with course being a monthly subscription

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Speaker 2: if they're not funded. We would love the education sector,

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Speaker 2: workplaces and community to share the load and not have

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Speaker 2: it all dependent on one particular funding model. So absolutely

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Speaker 2: we'd love government to take on this kind of model.

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Speaker 2: I think they've got best intentions. It's the best system

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Speaker 2: we've got the NDOS at the moment, but it's difficult

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Speaker 2: and the admin SIET is not helpful at the moment

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Speaker 2: to a lot of participants. So yes, it's just a

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Speaker 2: way to plug. It's a collaborative tool. So really guess

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Speaker 2: with all those intake systems they lighthouse at the moment,

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Speaker 2: the NBAS and support couldn't as they're really doing a

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Speaker 2: lot of friends. So this just helps fast check things

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Speaker 2: a little bit, so that about these stories and learning

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Speaker 2: plans are all become out of date quite quickly because

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Speaker 2: of why things changed quite quickly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing, Liz, good luck with it. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: your time.

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Speaker 2: Tonight, Thank you to have come that. Are you too

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Speaker 2: to give it a go over the next three months

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Speaker 2: and feel free for email us if they have any questions.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Liz. Liz Wildon, founder of circle Talk,

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Speaker 1: the website. Some of that faded out there in the phone,

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Speaker 1: but circle talk dot com dot Au and the apps

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Speaker 1: available on the App Store and Google Play. Circle talk

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Speaker 1: to help people with disability share information and it's confidential.

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Speaker 1: You share, as I understand it from what Liz said,

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Speaker 1: you share what you want to share. So but with cares,

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Speaker 1: you can imagine if you now two hundred would probably

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Speaker 1: be the extreme end, having two hundred different cares, but

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Speaker 1: if you've got five or ten probably more common, then

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Speaker 1: even that is a saving and not having to repeat

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Speaker 1: all the information. They can just grab it all online,

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Speaker 1: which is a good thing, right has to be. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: you can check it out if you have the need

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Speaker 1: for it. Circle talk dot Com dot au