Speaker 1: Live on Sky News Australia.
Speaker 2: This is Technique de Georgio.
Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to the program.
Speaker 4: Coming up tonight, Anthony Alberesi's medicare stunt during the election
Speaker 4: backfires as it's getting even more expensive to see a
Speaker 4: specialist in this country. Also tonight, disaffected Liberals and Teals
Speaker 4: reportedly in talks to form a new center right movement,
Speaker 4: claiming the party is being taken over by Conservatives. I'll
Speaker 4: speak to MICHAYLEA Cash about it shortly, And Australia's Sex
Speaker 4: Discrimination Commissioner still can't define.
Speaker 3: The first word in her title.
Speaker 4: I'll play you Anna Cody's latest disastrous comments from Senate estimates.
Speaker 4: But first tonight, there's a case that has gone in
Speaker 4: front of a New South Wales court that I think
Speaker 4: has been a gross miscarriage of justice and racially motivated.
Speaker 4: It involves police officer Benedict Bryant. Now this is a
Speaker 4: case that makes you wonder why anyone would bother enrolling
Speaker 4: in the police force if they risk being charged just
Speaker 4: for doing their job. Last week, the forty seven year
Speaker 4: old police sergeant was found guilty of dangerous driving occasioning
Speaker 4: the death of Aboriginal teenager Gai killaney Wright.
Speaker 3: In February twenty twenty two. The sixteen year old was.
Speaker 4: Riding a stolen trail bike in Sydney's Inner Suburbs when
Speaker 4: he hit an unmarked vehicle being driven by Officer Bryant.
Speaker 4: Now CCTV footage showed the team traveling around sixty eight
Speaker 4: kilometers an hour in a forty kilometer an hour zone
Speaker 4: in a bikelane. Sergeant Bryant created a roadblock with his
Speaker 4: car and at the same time Gi calaney Wright went
Speaker 4: through a red light before hitting a barrier at the
Speaker 4: end of the bike lane, causing him to become airborne
Speaker 4: and he crashed into Bryant's parked vehicle. The teenager suffered
Speaker 4: critical head injuries and died in hospital the following day.
Speaker 4: Now the prosecution alleged Bryant had effectively establish.
Speaker 3: A roadblock without reasonable grounds.
Speaker 4: Judge Jane Culvers said given the sergeant's experience, he should
Speaker 4: have known that positioning his vehicle that way would lead.
Speaker 3: To a real risk of a collision.
Speaker 4: Despite the fact the teenager crashed into the parked vehicle,
Speaker 4: not the other way around. Benedict Bryant's lawyer, Paul McGirr
Speaker 4: explained the judge's decision this morning on two GB and
Speaker 4: have a think about whether this is fair.
Speaker 2: What she found was that he should have foreseen that
Speaker 2: this young person riding over seventy kilometers in a bicycle
Speaker 2: lane on a stolen trial bike and he had a
Speaker 2: helmet on, but certainly should have known that he wouldn't stop,
Speaker 2: he wouldn't slow down at the markings, was on the
Speaker 2: wrong side of the actual bicycle laying markings came to
Speaker 2: that raised part. Should have known that he wasn't going
Speaker 2: to stop, that that was going to ignore a traffic light,
Speaker 2: was going to ignor a left turn arrow that was
Speaker 2: in the bike lane, was going to ignore a ballard,
Speaker 2: a raised bollard up to about ten centimeters concrete and plastic,
Speaker 2: and was also going to ignore sorry gathering and also
Speaker 2: ignore a too high me to high red plastic bollards.
Speaker 4: Now, obviously you can foresee things happening. For example, if
Speaker 4: you are driving and there is an intoxicated person staggering
Speaker 4: on a footpath with one foot on the road, then
Speaker 4: you're probably going to slow down your vehicle in anticipation
Speaker 4: that that person may come onto the road. That to
Speaker 4: me is fair and reasonable to assume, but nobody's a
Speaker 4: mind reader, so it beggars belief in my view that
Speaker 4: a judge would think that a police officer would have
Speaker 4: had to have foreseen a myriad of possibilities in a
Speaker 4: split second, like ignoring bollards in order to have prevented death.
Speaker 3: This really is truly staggering.
Speaker 4: Judge Jane Colver said, the accused so seriously failed to
Speaker 4: properly they managed the vehicle that he created a real
Speaker 4: danger despite the fact he didn't hit the teenager. The
Speaker 4: teenager crashed into his patrol car, which was part and
Speaker 4: now the sergeant will learn his fate in April and
Speaker 4: faces up to ten years behind bars, his career over
Speaker 4: in a flash for doing his job, a twenty two
Speaker 4: year career down the drain. Why bother becoming a police officer?
Speaker 4: What is the point if you cannot even fulfill your
Speaker 4: basic duties without the risk of being charged because the
Speaker 4: standard has been set now. In fact, criminal law researcher
Speaker 4: Talia Anthony even told the ABC quote, given that we
Speaker 4: now have this new standard possibility, maybe the prosecutors will
Speaker 4: be emboldened to bring higher offenses in charging police officers.
Speaker 4: In the future emboldened. And here is Benedict Bryant's lawyer
Speaker 4: on that these.
Speaker 2: Are split second decisions. On that basis, that would mean
Speaker 2: no police officer would ever engage in anything to do
Speaker 2: with a criminal because they simply should know what they're
Speaker 2: going to do. That's the danger of the job they face.
Speaker 2: And a lot of police officers would be thinking to
Speaker 2: themselves it might be just easy to sit in the
Speaker 2: station and let this happen.
Speaker 4: And look, we already have a youth crime crisis as
Speaker 4: it is, and this teenager was no saint. He had
Speaker 4: been breaking into homes and stealing cars and the trail bike. Now,
Speaker 4: of course his death is tragic, of course it is,
Speaker 4: but he was engaging in illegal activity at the time.
Speaker 4: And we have a courtroom criminalizing police for doing their job.
Speaker 4: And the question has to be asked, would the case
Speaker 4: have gone to court had the teenager been white. The
Speaker 4: Department of Public Prosecutions had conducted an investigation into the
Speaker 4: incident and Benedict Bryant was initially cleared of any wrongdoing.
Speaker 4: It wasn't until last year when a new South Wales coroner,
Speaker 4: who had been investigating the teenager's death as a death
Speaker 4: in custody, referred the matter back to the DPP and
Speaker 4: charges were laid. And now this case has become a
Speaker 4: race issue because the teenager was Aboriginal, and we've seen
Speaker 4: this play out before, albeit in different circumstances. It happened
Speaker 4: in the Northern Territory. Constable Zachary Rolf was charged with
Speaker 4: the murder of Aboriginal teenager Kumenjay Walker in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4: Walker stabbed Rolf in the shoulder with scissors as he
Speaker 4: attempted to arrest him after Walker had earlier threatened local
Speaker 4: officers with an axe. Rolf than fatally shot Walker, and
Speaker 4: he was prosecuted. A jury has since cleared the now
Speaker 4: former officer of murder, agreeing that he was acting in
Speaker 4: self defense. But it's the same wokism and race based
Speaker 4: politics that is playing out in our courts. Do white
Speaker 4: police officers ever really stand a chance when faced with
Speaker 4: Aboriginal criminal offenders who, in rare cases die as a
Speaker 4: result of police.
Speaker 3: Being forced to do their job.
Speaker 4: Did Benedict Bryant stand a chance the day he made
Speaker 4: that decision, based on his more than twenty year career,
Speaker 4: to form a roadblock, Well, if you ask Principal Legal
Speaker 4: Officer of the Aboriginal Legal Service, Nadine Miles. She says
Speaker 4: the guilty verdict confirms Bryant caused the death of the teenager.
Speaker 4: She told the SBS there is a particular lack of
Speaker 4: accountability for police who cause harm to Aboriginal people. The
Speaker 4: conviction of Benedict Bryant breaks with this trend and is
Speaker 4: an important step in the right direction. It is critical
Speaker 4: that police are held accountable for their actions. The community
Speaker 4: should be able to trust that they will be safe
Speaker 4: when interacting with police. It is shameful that the actions
Speaker 4: of some police officers show this trust is not earned
Speaker 4: or warranted.
Speaker 3: Police don't stand a chance. Well.
Speaker 4: Anthony Albanezi peddled the biggest lie throughout the election campaign
Speaker 4: when he flapped about his Medicare card day in, day
Speaker 4: out and told you that his little green card is
Speaker 4: all you'll ever need to see the doctor for free.
Speaker 5: This little green and gold card.
Speaker 6: This scene here your Medicare card as this little green
Speaker 6: and gold piece of plastic.
Speaker 5: This your Medicare card, A Medicare card.
Speaker 4: Well, it was all a stunt, wasn't it. The majority
Speaker 4: of Australians believed it that seeing a GP was going
Speaker 4: to be free and easy under Labor, and believed a
Speaker 4: scare campaign that the Coalition would make cuts to Medicare.
Speaker 4: Yet how difficult is it to find a bulk billing
Speaker 4: practice in this country that does not charge you a
Speaker 4: gap fee. It's about as difficult as waiting for our
Speaker 4: power bills to come down under the renewables only fantasy.
Speaker 4: Healthcare under Labor is not cheap, not freely available as
Speaker 4: you were promised it would be, and it's getting worse
Speaker 4: if you need to see a specialist, out of pocket
Speaker 4: costs for specialist doctors and our crippling consumer budgets. According
Speaker 4: to Medicare data, the average gap fee charge to patients
Speaker 4: has risen from forty nine dollars fifty six in twenty
Speaker 4: ten to eleven to one hundred and seventeen dollars eighteen
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three to twenty four, more than triple
Speaker 4: the rate of inflation now. The Health Minister Mark Butler
Speaker 4: has asked his department to provide wide ranging advice on
Speaker 4: reform options, and according to The Australian, that would include
Speaker 4: more transparency like forcing doctors to list what their fees
Speaker 4: are and cloring back Medicare subsidies that go to specialist
Speaker 4: doctors who charge what is deemed as excessive. Well, i'd
Speaker 4: ask what is labour trying to do here? I mean,
Speaker 4: are they actually seriously going to ask specialist doctors to
Speaker 4: take a pay cut? Are they going to regulate doctors'
Speaker 4: billing practices? Really, there are suggestions that that in itself
Speaker 4: would be a constitutional matter. Someone has to pay in
Speaker 4: the end, and we can see where it's going. It's
Speaker 4: going to be the taxpayer who ends up being left
Speaker 4: to fill the gap.
Speaker 3: It's going to be you.
Speaker 4: Who ultimately foots the bill because how else is labor
Speaker 4: going to do this? Despite the fact Albo told you
Speaker 4: healthcare was going to be cheap with your little green card,
Speaker 4: and the Opposition is rightly asking questions today.
Speaker 7: Well, I think one of the biggest lives of the
Speaker 7: last election campaign, Pete was that all you would need
Speaker 7: to access quality healthcare in this country was going to
Speaker 7: be your Medicare card. The Prime Minister had backdrops, had
Speaker 7: you know, jackets t shirts, pulling his card out at
Speaker 7: every available opportunity. And the reality is Australians are paying
Speaker 7: fifty bucks out of pocket on average to see their
Speaker 7: GP and one hundred and seventeen dollars on average to
Speaker 7: see specialists.
Speaker 3: Now for many many.
Speaker 7: Australians, particularly those with young families, where you might need
Speaker 7: additional visits or more than just one.
Speaker 8: That is out of the reach of family budgets.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Health Minister Mike Butler was out spitting
Speaker 4: tricky figures today.
Speaker 9: There were eleven million free visits to the GP last
Speaker 9: month compared to seven million month before, so last month
Speaker 9: an additional four million free visits to the GP because
Speaker 9: of our investments making a huge difference to the access
Speaker 9: to healthcare and affordability.
Speaker 4: The reality is bulk billing rates have only slightly shifted
Speaker 4: from a year ago. Health Department officials told Senate estimates
Speaker 4: yesterday the official bulk billing rate for GP visits rose
Speaker 4: from seventy seven point seven percent in October to eighty
Speaker 4: one point two percent last month, But between July and
Speaker 4: September last year, bulk billing rates sat at seventy seven
Speaker 4: point six percent, So really the needle has barely moved
Speaker 4: in twelve months. Yet Labor announced it would spend eight
Speaker 4: point five billion dollars of your money to deliver eighteen
Speaker 4: million more GP visits a year, and don't forget its
Speaker 4: goals for the policy were merely based on an aim.
Speaker 4: The funding was to be spread over four years and
Speaker 4: only aimed to deliver bulk billing rates of ninety percent
Speaker 4: by twenty thirty in two elections time. That little green
Speaker 4: card was nothing more than a labor con Well, Australia's
Speaker 4: Sex Discrimination Commissioner is still having a real doozy of
Speaker 4: a time defining the first word in her title.
Speaker 3: Here. She was in.
Speaker 10: October lesbians, trans women, non binary. There are a range
Speaker 10: of people who identify as women who are women.
Speaker 3: Did you mean that biological males can be women men?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 10: I think that we have different language that perhaps you're
Speaker 10: using that I would use. So I don't understand the
Speaker 10: term biological men.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Anna Cody told the same committee the reason she couldn't
Speaker 4: distinguish between male and female was that she wasn't a scientist.
Speaker 11: Can someone who was born an ex y chromosomes changed
Speaker 11: to xx chromosoans a male change to female?
Speaker 10: I don't believe so, but I'm not a scientist.
Speaker 4: Well, it's getting worse for and A Cody, a public bureaucrat,
Speaker 4: paid four hundred thousand dollars a year in Senate estimates
Speaker 4: this week.
Speaker 3: This is how she defined her.
Speaker 12: Role, Senator, my role is as the Sex Discrimination Commissioner
Speaker 12: to advocate for gender equality and also for the rights
Speaker 12: of LGBQTI plus community.
Speaker 4: Well props to her for at least an open admission
Speaker 4: that she really has no clue as to what the
Speaker 4: role of a sex discrimination commissioner actually involves, because this
Speaker 4: is not a sex discrimination commissioner. This is clearly an
Speaker 4: advocate for the LGBTQI plus community on a tax payer wage.
Speaker 4: And a Cody even went as far as to blame
Speaker 4: conservative media recently like us here at Sky News, claiming
Speaker 4: she's been the victim of a one sided campaign for
Speaker 4: her advocacy for the trans community. And look now that
Speaker 4: she's had two months to reflect on the term biological
Speaker 4: man does and a Cody know what a biological man
Speaker 4: is now? Senator Leah Blythe tried to get an answer.
Speaker 12: Senator, I'm not a medical expert. I'm a human rights advocate.
Speaker 12: As I've just said, I advocate for gender equality and
Speaker 12: for the rights of LGBQTI plus people. That's my role
Speaker 12: under the Sex Discrimination Act.
Speaker 4: So first, she tells us she can't define what a
Speaker 4: biological man is because she's not a scientist. And now
Speaker 4: she tells us she can't define what a biological man
Speaker 4: is because she's not a medical expert. Now I don't
Speaker 4: know about you, but I'm really struggling to get my
Speaker 4: head around this.
Speaker 3: How does she not know what anyone is?
Speaker 4: Then she claims to be an advocate for the rights
Speaker 4: of the LGBTIQ plus people. What is she to find
Speaker 4: a trans person as? Then how does she know what
Speaker 4: they really are if she's not a scientist or a
Speaker 4: medical professional. And I'd love to tell you it ended there,
Speaker 4: but it didn't.
Speaker 13: Do you accept that there's a clear criteria that exists
Speaker 13: to distinguish between male and female.
Speaker 12: The Sex Discrimination Act does not define man or woman.
Speaker 12: It has an inclusive definition of women that includes all women.
Speaker 12: So that is First Nations, women, women from culturally and
Speaker 12: racially marginalized backgrounds, trans women, lesbians, women with disability.
Speaker 4: Inclusive definition of women. How many versions of women are there?
Speaker 4: Senatoralia blythe gave Anna Cody one more go?
Speaker 12: So how would you define a man? It's not defined
Speaker 12: under the Sex Discrimination Act. And my role, as I've said,
Speaker 12: is to uphold gender equality under that Act.
Speaker 4: And this nonsense went on for ten minutes. And look,
Speaker 4: I've shown this before, but I'm going to show it again.
Speaker 4: Perhaps Ana Cody could do with a basic biology lesson
Speaker 4: from the movie Kindergarten Cop.
Speaker 11: Boys have a penish, Girls have a vagagina.
Speaker 10: Thanks for the tip.
Speaker 4: And you don't need a scientist or a medical expert
Speaker 4: to tell you that.
Speaker 3: All right, let's get into the day's news. Now.
Speaker 4: There's been another nail in the coffin for Labour's renewables
Speaker 4: only fantasy. It's been revealed its most recent advice on
Speaker 4: its twenty thirty five emissions targets was partly informed by
Speaker 4: a German study that has now been retracted. Environmental experts
Speaker 4: are warning its skewed data significantly overinflated the possible economic
Speaker 4: damage of climate change. Joining me nowut for more on
Speaker 4: this is Graham Lloyd, the Environment editor with the Australian.
Speaker 4: Graham good to catch up. Thanks for joining me. Tell
Speaker 4: us what has actually been retracted from that study and
Speaker 4: what this now means for Labour's twenty thirty five targets.
Speaker 14: Well, good evening. It was a major study from a
Speaker 14: recognized institute that was published in one of the leading
Speaker 14: scientific journals, and it claimed to have analyzed economies over
Speaker 14: a forty year period and extrapolated what the impact of
Speaker 14: rising carbon dioxide emissions would be, and it said by
Speaker 14: the end of the century there will be reduce by
Speaker 14: sixty two percent, which is an extraordinary amount. They've had
Speaker 14: to go back and admit, well, really, rather than a
Speaker 14: forty year period, the figures were skewed by what happened
Speaker 14: in Ubekistan over a period of four years, and the
Speaker 14: correct figure would in fact be twenty percent, not sixty.
Speaker 14: But it really gets worse than that because the study
Speaker 14: itself is based on the worst case scenario on emissions,
Speaker 14: and there's a general agreement of understanding that that worst
Speaker 14: case scenario is something that's not going to happen. So
Speaker 14: really you're taking the worst cast scenario, you're extrapolating it
Speaker 14: and using skewed to figures from a short period of
Speaker 14: time in Uzbakistan and saying this is the impact on
Speaker 14: the global economy. So that paper has been withdrawn. They
Speaker 14: say they will be resubmitting it, but in the meantime
Speaker 14: it's been used to justify actions across a whole range
Speaker 14: of places, including advice to the federal government.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just extraordinary as it is. Expert after
Speaker 4: expert will tell you that Labor can't reach its twenty
Speaker 4: thirty targets. Now we know that twenty thirty five was
Speaker 4: based on a report which has now been redacted. You know,
Speaker 4: I just think it's absolutely bizarre. Now let's go to Victoria.
Speaker 4: Agl has pulled the pin on its offshore wind ambitions
Speaker 4: over there, Graham, this is the problem because we know
Speaker 4: that two other wind farm projects have already been shelved,
Speaker 4: so it's not going well. How big of a blow
Speaker 4: is this to Victoria's efforts, in particular to phase out
Speaker 4: coal in favor of renewables.
Speaker 14: Well, it's a very significant problem, indeed, because Victoria has
Speaker 14: said a central part of its ability to meet its
Speaker 14: expectations as coal shots is offshore wind. And what we're
Speaker 14: seeing is one by one, offshore wind projects are falling
Speaker 14: over primarily because of cost and a lack of infrastructure
Speaker 14: and things that have been well known and understood by
Speaker 14: anyone who's paying attention. So it's looking like if there
Speaker 14: is to be any offshore wind, it's going to be
Speaker 14: extremely expensive and heavily subsidized by government, and a lot
Speaker 14: of companies are saying, well, the risk is too great,
Speaker 14: these projects are not viable for them, so they're out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Look, it's not good, and I mean it's not just
Speaker 4: happening in Victoria, it's happening across the country.
Speaker 3: I've lost count of the amount of.
Speaker 4: Projects that have either gone bust or have been delayed
Speaker 4: in recent months alone. That this renewables only magic carpet
Speaker 4: ryde just keeps failing at every turn. I want to
Speaker 4: go to this report by the Australian Energy Market Commission.
Speaker 4: It's warning that electricity prices are projected to jump thirteen
Speaker 4: percent by early next decade unless the rollout of Labour's
Speaker 4: net zero policies are accelerated. As I mentioned Graham, this
Speaker 4: whole rollout is being underpinned by eight twenty thirty by
Speaker 4: that target. Yet we've got experts warning we're not going
Speaker 4: to get there. So what are the odds of the
Speaker 4: role at actually being able to be accelerated in the
Speaker 4: first place.
Speaker 14: Well, I think this is the thing that the rollout
Speaker 14: has basically stalled in terms of large scale renewable energy projects.
Speaker 14: There's really been a log jam where they've been announced,
Speaker 14: but they're not getting financial sign off, and a large
Speaker 14: part of that is because the authorities have been unable
Speaker 14: to deliver the interconnectors and other infrastructure that will enable
Speaker 14: it to happen, and prices are going up every minute
Speaker 14: people wait. So in terms of accelerating the role out,
Speaker 14: this is something that the federal government has been trying
Speaker 14: to do for some time and without success. So unless
Speaker 14: there is a resort to much more authoritarian measures, if
Speaker 14: you like, to railroad objections and to underwrite the finances
Speaker 14: of these things, it's very hard to see these targets
Speaker 14: being met. And if there isn't the role out, as
Speaker 14: the electricity authorities are now saying, well, prices are going up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean we see it with our power
Speaker 4: bills every time we open it, so don't we Grahm Lloyd,
Speaker 4: good to see you as always, Thanks very much for
Speaker 4: joining me. Well joining me now live is the Shadow
Speaker 4: Foreign Affairs Minister, Michaulia Cash, Senator. Nice to see you,
Speaker 4: thanks for joining me. Let's start with the ISIS Bride saga.
Speaker 4: Tony Burke is still silent on what occurred in that
Speaker 4: June meeting with charity Save the Children, which had been
Speaker 4: helping get the Isis brides back to Australia.
Speaker 3: I know that you tried very hard.
Speaker 4: In sett estimates months ago when it was revealed that
Speaker 4: the brides had already arrived here. You tried to get
Speaker 4: a straight answer from Labour to no avail. Now these revelations,
Speaker 4: what does a public deserve to know here about what occurred?
Speaker 15: Well, Deanika, the obvious answer is the public deserve the
Speaker 15: truth from both the Prime Minister and Tiny Burr. I
Speaker 15: say that sarcastically, though, because you and I both know
Speaker 15: the Albanesi government has almost become incapable in most areas
Speaker 15: of policy in telling the truth.
Speaker 8: But these are the facts.
Speaker 15: Tony Burke had a secret meeting with Save the Children
Speaker 15: in relation to the return of the Isis brides and
Speaker 15: kicked out the note taker, and yet now refuses to
Speaker 15: tell the Australian people what actually happened in that meeting.
Speaker 15: I mean, you don't get to have it both ways,
Speaker 15: and you now have the Department saying well, actually Tony
Speaker 15: Burke said that he would find a way to bring
Speaker 15: those Isis bride home. I mean Tony Burke's explanation, Danika
Speaker 15: no longer passes the pub test. These were not backpacker's
Speaker 15: stranded overseas. These were the wives of ISIS terrorists, men
Speaker 15: who had committed some of the most grotesque atrocities this
Speaker 15: world has ever seen. So Burke has a secret meeting,
Speaker 15: kicks out the note taker. You don't kick out the
Speaker 15: note taker, Daneka, unless you don't.
Speaker 8: Want it on the books. Doesn't tell the Australian people
Speaker 8: what went on.
Speaker 15: And you now have the notes I have them here
Speaker 15: from the Departmental Secretary that say this got to find
Speaker 15: a way. Politics harder at this end of term. Public
Speaker 15: pressure makes it harder. This the success of the first
Speaker 15: Cohort will be great after we've got them home. So
Speaker 15: for Tony Burke to sit back and not actually now
Speaker 15: tell Australians what actually occurred in this secret meeting, Why
Speaker 15: you're through the note taker out? What have you got
Speaker 15: to hide? It doesn't pass the pub test.
Speaker 3: No it doesn't.
Speaker 4: And the fact that the don't say that the talking
Speaker 4: about the success of the first Cohort. And you're right,
Speaker 4: these women left Australia. They betrayed our values when they
Speaker 4: left here to go on this g hardy Rome ants
Speaker 4: and we deserve to know what role labor played in
Speaker 4: this effort to get them back here. So no, I
Speaker 4: think you're spot on and just on that point, because
Speaker 4: these isis brides, they don't represent our values, which leads
Speaker 4: me on to the next topic of migration.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: Susan Lee has promised that a plan will be announced
Speaker 4: before Christmas orbeit with no figure as such, to reduce
Speaker 4: overseas migration. Moderate Liberal Senator Andrew McLaughlin has condemned what
Speaker 4: he says is inflammatory and irresponsible language, particularly pertaining to
Speaker 4: the phrase mass migration. Now, Senator, you've been very strong
Speaker 4: on migration, and this whole issue is a term.
Speaker 3: Mass migration inflammatory in your view.
Speaker 8: I don't believe it is no In fact, you can
Speaker 8: call it what you like. These are the facts.
Speaker 15: The Albanese labor government brought him one million people over
Speaker 15: a period of two years, in the middle of both
Speaker 15: a housing crisis and a cost of living crisis. This
Speaker 15: is not about atteching migrants. We are one of the
Speaker 15: most successful multicultural nations.
Speaker 8: In the world world.
Speaker 15: This is squarely about the failure of the Albanese government's
Speaker 15: migration policies.
Speaker 8: They've turned on the migration tap.
Speaker 15: They haven't put in place the appropriate infrastructure. Too many
Speaker 15: people in too short a times, Janeka, The Australian people
Speaker 15: do not need to be lectured about terminology. They live
Speaker 15: the reality of labours too many people in a short
Speaker 15: period of time. Every single day they look at their rent,
Speaker 15: they look.
Speaker 8: At their mortgage, they look at the.
Speaker 15: Fact that their kiss or even them cannot get into
Speaker 15: a house. We are a country that welcomes migrants. We
Speaker 15: do it with open arms. But at the same time
Speaker 15: we need to be adult enough to be able to
Speaker 15: have a sincere conversation about the fact that this government
Speaker 15: has brought in too many people too quickly and it
Speaker 15: is having a detrimental.
Speaker 8: Impact on the Australian people.
Speaker 15: I'm a pretty split plain speaker, Danika, and quite frankly,
Speaker 15: it's as simple as that.
Speaker 4: Well, that's it, and you're right. The problem is not
Speaker 4: with migration. We are a nation of migrants. The problem
Speaker 4: is with mass migration. We have had too many people
Speaker 4: come into this country under labor and we continue to
Speaker 4: do so.
Speaker 3: That is a problem.
Speaker 4: There is nothing inflammatory or nothing wrong about it. I
Speaker 4: do hope we get to a point where we can
Speaker 4: have a proper debate about it.
Speaker 3: Senator.
Speaker 4: An interesting story in the AFR today that momentum is
Speaker 4: building among disaffected Liberals and Teals for a new center
Speaker 4: right movement. There are concerns by some who spoke to
Speaker 4: the paper anonymously that the Liberal Party is becoming irretrievable
Speaker 4: as a force thanks to a Conservative takeover. And the
Speaker 4: last straw was the net zero decision. What do you
Speaker 4: make of this?
Speaker 15: Well, in the first instance, I had to laugh because
Speaker 15: I've never heard a teal be called to someone from
Speaker 15: the sin to rise, so I found that most amusing.
Speaker 15: But what I would say is this, at the end
Speaker 15: of the day, the Liberal Party in the National Party
Speaker 15: is the coalition are the only serious alternative to Labor.
Speaker 8: We are not irretrievable.
Speaker 15: What we do need to do, though, is put place
Speaker 15: policies give you Australian people what I like to call
Speaker 15: a potent political choice.
Speaker 8: We have done that.
Speaker 15: In relation to energy, we have dumped It's gone, I
Speaker 15: hope never to be seen again, the disastrous net zero policy.
Speaker 15: So the Australian people now have a choice. Labor who
Speaker 15: worship the net zero number. They couldn't give a toss
Speaker 15: sden acre about the impact on Mum and Dad, Australia
Speaker 15: or the coalition who will put Australians first. We will
Speaker 15: put your job first. We will put your energy security first.
Speaker 8: But more than.
Speaker 15: That, we will put the prop you pay on a
Speaker 15: daily basis first. That is a true political choice, as
Speaker 15: you've also alluded to. Though, we will shortly release our
Speaker 15: immigration principles and I assure you, decender of Jonathan Duniam
Speaker 15: who is doing an utterly outstanding job. This is going
Speaker 15: to again be a potent political difference and Australians will
Speaker 15: have a choice two big issues.
Speaker 5: Energy.
Speaker 15: Yeah, potent political difference. Immigration, potent political difference. That's what
Speaker 15: the Liberal in the National Party need to offer to
Speaker 15: the Australian people.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, our clear difference is needed.
Speaker 4: Mcayley cash great to catch up as always, Thanks so
Speaker 4: much for joining me on the show.
Speaker 3: Appreciate it. Coming up after the break.
Speaker 4: One Nation claims it's on the brink of another two
Speaker 4: high profile appointments as well as Barnaby Joyce that a
Speaker 4: war with my panel next.
Speaker 3: Welcome back. Well.
Speaker 4: One Nation riding high in the polls right now and
Speaker 4: on the brink of recruiting. Barnaby Joyce is planning to
Speaker 4: make more high profile recruitments next year. According to reports
Speaker 4: in nine newspapers, Chief of Staff James Ashby is so
Speaker 4: confident with how things are going that he has revealed
Speaker 4: the party has plans to unveil a second high profile MP,
Speaker 4: not Joyce, who will join as soon as January, with
Speaker 4: a third high pro far recruit penciled in for March.
Speaker 4: Joining me now is forming new South Wales police minister
Speaker 4: David Elliott and former Liberal senator Holly Hughes. Welcome to
Speaker 4: the both of you, Thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 4: Holy any ideas, any names you want to throw up?
Speaker 3: Who do you reckon? It might be over.
Speaker 16: It's quite a tantalizing little you know, tippit that Ashby's
Speaker 16: putting out there. So no, I should have text him
Speaker 16: and see if you had given me a heads up.
Speaker 16: But na, I've got absolutely no idea. I mean, I'm
Speaker 16: sure the Liberal Party's got a few people they'll probably
Speaker 16: be happy to pack up and send. But whether or
Speaker 16: not that's where they are, who knows.
Speaker 4: Oh, I just find it fascinating. I guess you know
Speaker 4: they're riding high in the polls. As I said, eighteen
Speaker 4: percent was their primary vote. David in the last News poll.
Speaker 4: That's pretty good eighteen percent. But do you think they
Speaker 4: can sustain that between now and an election.
Speaker 11: Well, as they say in politics, the trend is your friend. Yeah,
Speaker 11: and we have seen this trend go on. We all
Speaker 11: know the reasons. I mean, it's been it's been a
Speaker 11: long time coming. Paul Enhanson has rebranded herself, she's rebranded
Speaker 11: the party, and we've seen right across the Western world
Speaker 11: in democracies right across the Western world that that sort
Speaker 11: of conservative populist mantra is in high demand and young
Speaker 11: young men and women are going to probably start looking
Speaker 11: at what the other options are.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, that's actually true because the polling that came
Speaker 4: out this week said that more young males are turning
Speaker 4: to one nation and we actually saw that in the
Speaker 4: US election, where the younger vote was turning to Donald Trump.
Speaker 4: So I just wonder there's obviously an appeal there for sure.
Speaker 4: And now look, let's turn to the federal and state governments.
Speaker 4: They'll soon spend more than fifty billion dollars a year
Speaker 4: servicing a record level of debt, according to the Independent
Speaker 4: Parliamentary Budget Office. Net debt held by the state's territories
Speaker 4: and federal government will reach one point one trillion next
Speaker 4: financial year. Holly, before the pandemic, it was at five
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty one billion.
Speaker 3: How did it now get to more than one trillion.
Speaker 16: Well, this is a government that likes to spend, spend, spend,
Speaker 16: and now that we've got so many labor governments around
Speaker 16: the country as well, they're all investing in this sort
Speaker 16: of tax and spend mantra. They're more interested in redistribution
Speaker 16: rather than creation of wealth, and they seem to have
Speaker 16: zero regard for raining in the spending, boosting productivity and
Speaker 16: getting the budget under control. You know, they haven't seen
Speaker 16: a massive expenditure plan they don't love yet and it's
Speaker 16: all Australians. They're going to be paying for this long
Speaker 16: into the future. But to have this level of dare
Speaker 16: I mean, it's almost budget repairs, almost getting to a
Speaker 16: point of beyond us. It's just insanity unless there's going
Speaker 16: to be some real, real cuts back on spending. And
Speaker 16: I just can't see the political will coming from anywhere
Speaker 16: to do that.
Speaker 14: No.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean Jim Chalmers has already said he's not worrying,
Speaker 4: is quite calm. He thinks, you know about spending as
Speaker 4: it is, David. But in the end it is going
Speaker 4: to be generations to come that are going to have
Speaker 4: to pay for all this record debts.
Speaker 11: Well that's right, our generation generation next, we inherited the
Speaker 11: keeping debt. I mean, Jim Chalmers is treating us like
Speaker 11: mugs if he thinks there's nothing to be concerned. Public
Speaker 11: and private debt are okay if you've got an asset
Speaker 11: to realize. If you've got an asset there to think that, well,
Speaker 11: that's what the debt is about. That's what I've got
Speaker 11: to for my money. But when you consider that twenty
Speaker 11: five years ago Peter Costello and John Howard had his
Speaker 11: debt free and now we've got a trillion dollars worth
Speaker 11: of liability, well then that is something that my grandkids
Speaker 11: should be worried about when eventually they come about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is certainly a concern. I mean a trillion extraordinary. Now, look,
Speaker 4: I mentioned this at the start of the show. There's
Speaker 4: a case that has gone in front of a New
Speaker 4: South Wales court that I think has been a gross
Speaker 4: miscarriage of justice involving police officer Benedict Bryant, an Aboriginal
Speaker 4: teenager riding a stolen trail bike crashed into his patrol car,
Speaker 4: which was part and he subsequently died. The officer has
Speaker 4: been found guilty of dangerous driving occasioning the death and
Speaker 4: faces up to ten years behind bars. David, I'll start
Speaker 4: with you on this as a former police minister yourself,
Speaker 4: what do you make of what's occurred.
Speaker 11: Well, we talk about why people are going to one nation.
Speaker 11: This is why because they feel disenfranchised from the parliamentary
Speaker 11: and the political and n judicial process. I mean, where
Speaker 11: is the political air cover coming for these poor cops?
Speaker 15: Where is it?
Speaker 11: And the whole notion of a person running from police,
Speaker 11: being in police custody, or being in custody at all
Speaker 11: is laughable. No reasonable person could say that the laws
Speaker 11: of criminal justice, of custody or laws and the obligations
Speaker 11: of the law enforcement agencies would apply to a kid
Speaker 11: that's running away. It is tragic, it is absolutely tragic.
Speaker 11: But I'm disappointed that there's no political air cover coming
Speaker 11: for the police because this is just going to push
Speaker 11: even more people towards Pauline Hanson.
Speaker 4: And also I just wonder whether people will I think
Speaker 4: twice before joining the.
Speaker 11: Police they are anyway, the police Commission here in New
Speaker 11: South Wales has already said he's on a recruiting drive.
Speaker 11: But that's in every vocation at the moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 4: Look, I mean, obviously it's tragic what happened, Holly, but
Speaker 4: I mean, what are your thoughts on this case.
Speaker 16: I don't think it's disgraceful. I think it's absolutely disgraceful judgment.
Speaker 16: I can't see how it will hold up on appeal.
Speaker 16: As David said, this kid was not in custody. To
Speaker 16: treat it as a death in custody is just ludicrous.
Speaker 16: And police is supposed to do their job. No one
Speaker 16: seems to be talking about the lives that were put
Speaker 16: at risk by the actions of this teenager and the
Speaker 16: behavior that he was embarking upon. Yet that all seems
Speaker 16: to be forgotten and forgiven, and the pile on for
Speaker 16: the police. I think it's disgraceful. You haven't seen a
Speaker 16: police minister or the premier out advocating this. This is
Speaker 16: just appalling. And why would you join the police or
Speaker 16: encourage kids to join the police. This is how they
Speaker 16: trade it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I completely agree, and it's now a twenty two
Speaker 4: year outstanding Korea all down the drain for this officer
Speaker 4: and he faces ten years behind bars. I mean, gosh,
Speaker 4: what do you say now? This one here concerned me
Speaker 4: a bit. Retailers and unions want facial recognition technology adopted
Speaker 4: in a bid to crack down on violent repeat offenders.
Speaker 4: New Zealand has successfully trialed it in a number of
Speaker 4: retail settings, and actual retail crime incidents involving knives have
Speaker 4: fallen twelve percent in ten months now. This technology captures
Speaker 4: data for a fraction of a second before deleting it
Speaker 4: if no match is made with a repeat offender. Now,
Speaker 4: I'm all for catching repeat offenders, David, but I'm not
Speaker 4: sure about facial recognition technology because it hasn't gone well
Speaker 4: in trials in the past.
Speaker 11: Well, it hasn't. I'm cautiously optimistic. Like Ai, I think
Speaker 11: we've got to make sure that we always consider it.
Speaker 11: I mean, it's used to great effect in Las Vegas.
Speaker 11: The NPI capture a lot of people in Las Vegas
Speaker 11: when the casinos are using facial recognition technology. London is
Speaker 11: using it by the very extensive CCTV. So I'm cautiously optimistic.
Speaker 11: If it makes the life of the frontline work are
Speaker 11: a little bit safer and it reduces the length of
Speaker 11: time that police need to invest in investigating. Well, I'm
Speaker 11: cautiously optimistic, but yeah, we need to make sure. Like
Speaker 11: anything in modern society, we've got to make sure there's
Speaker 11: plenty of safeguards.
Speaker 4: Now, look, I agree, Holy how would you feel about
Speaker 4: retail about this sort of technology being used in retail settings?
Speaker 16: Doesn't it feel a little Orwellian like this? You know,
Speaker 16: this whole big brother is all the time. I just
Speaker 16: I find it all a little bit uncomfortable. But I
Speaker 16: take David's point. Anything that makes people's lives a bit
Speaker 16: safer that are working on the front line is important.
Speaker 16: But we see breaches in these kinds of security systems
Speaker 16: and hackers and I just you know, the safeguards would
Speaker 16: need to be absolutely in place before I think most
Speaker 16: Australians would accept this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's a fair call.
Speaker 4: Before we let you both go, David, let's talk about
Speaker 4: your column this week in the day Telegraph. When I
Speaker 4: when I read the headline this morning, I think, WHOA
Speaker 4: where is he going with this? There's a first for everything.
Speaker 4: You listed a couple of your firsts in your life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, g rated of course, Well.
Speaker 11: Though, it was all very clean because the family show
Speaker 11: and my mother and law watches it. When I was
Speaker 11: writing it, actually it was I realized that without with
Speaker 11: the exception of my first drink, everything else was traumatic.
Speaker 11: My first job was traumatic, my first even my first
Speaker 11: kiss was a little bit traumatic when you consider the.
Speaker 3: Read the article.
Speaker 4: If you want to know about david sur kiss by
Speaker 4: the way it's detailed.
Speaker 11: Well you know I didn't initiate it as you'd appreciate.
Speaker 4: Well, look, I mean, good on you for being so
Speaker 4: so reading Telegraph. You want to know about David's first
Speaker 4: All in there, David Elliott, Holly Hughes, We've got to go.
Speaker 4: Thanks so much for joining me.
Speaker 3: On the show.
Speaker 4: Coming up, Half the Break, a shopping week for the Sussexes,
Speaker 4: Prince Harry Boom while mocking Donald Trump. As Meghan's Christmas
Speaker 4: special flops on Netflix, Samara gil joins me live from
Speaker 4: London next.
Speaker 3: Welcome Back, Well. Nigel Faraj has slammed the.
Speaker 4: BBC after refusing to take a question from one of
Speaker 4: its reporters at a Reform UK conference. It comes after
Speaker 4: he was accused of racism by the Guardian dating back
Speaker 4: to when he was thirteen years old would you believe
Speaker 4: have a listen.
Speaker 11: The schoolmates of yours who have said that comments you
Speaker 11: made they viewed as racist and offensive.
Speaker 1: The double standards and hypocrisy of the BBC are absolutely astonishing.
Speaker 1: At the time I was alleged to have made these remarks,
Speaker 1: one of your most popular weekly shows was the Black
Speaker 1: and White Minstrels. The BBC were very happy to use blackface.
Speaker 1: I'm done with you, thank you, he said.
Speaker 3: They were lying and it sounds like that from Scott.
Speaker 1: I'm really until you apologize for all of your output,
Speaker 1: your appalling output at the same time that I'm accused
Speaker 1: of saying these things, which I deny. I'm not speaking
Speaker 1: to you all right.
Speaker 4: Joining me now is Samara Gill, host of Triggered with
Speaker 4: Samara Gill. Nice to catch up as always. How long
Speaker 4: is the left wing media going to pedal.
Speaker 3: These racism claims for for goodness sake?
Speaker 6: Exactly, Dniger. Honestly, you can hardly blame Nigel Farrage. The
Speaker 6: BBC has spent years sneering at him, caricaturing him, deplatforming
Speaker 6: anyone who dares to share a stage with him, and
Speaker 6: they expect some sort of polite fireside chat from him.
Speaker 6: After all, this no no, no Farage simply served them
Speaker 6: this sort of long overdue.
Speaker 5: Helping of accountability.
Speaker 6: And it sort of reminds me of what Trump did
Speaker 6: when they were found to have doctored videos of him
Speaker 6: to make him look like he incited violence.
Speaker 5: So I say good Enfarage for pointing.
Speaker 6: Out the hypocrisy, because they've been waving their sanctimonious finger
Speaker 6: at him for years and now they've tried to pin
Speaker 6: him for allegations from when he was a thirteen year
Speaker 6: old schoolboy. And this is at the time when the
Speaker 6: BBC was pumping out blackface, racist tropes, phobic punchlines, all
Speaker 6: in their primetime slots. So if anyone needs to apologize,
Speaker 6: it isn't Farrage, it's the BBC, which is a total
Speaker 6: mess at the moment.
Speaker 3: Yep, no, you're you're right.
Speaker 4: The BBC is in a mess, and yet the Left
Speaker 4: love to peddle this racism narrative and it's just tiresome
Speaker 4: and quite frankly boring. Look, let's talk about the sussexes.
Speaker 4: They've had a shocking week. We'll start with Prince Harry.
Speaker 4: He tried to be an amateur comedian on The Late
Speaker 4: Show with Stephen Colbert where he mocked Donald Trump and
Speaker 4: it failed.
Speaker 12: He was booed, have a look su the obsessive royalty,
Speaker 12: So why.
Speaker 1: Not hold on, hold on, look, Look, I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: we're obsessed with royalty.
Speaker 3: Really, I heard you, I heard you elected a king.
Speaker 3: That's a fair party.
Speaker 4: Look, Samara, Harry needs to be saved from himself at
Speaker 4: this point.
Speaker 5: It is so depressing.
Speaker 6: Harry actually came from being a guest speaker at a
Speaker 6: real estate conference in Canada to that CBS appearance. Please
Speaker 6: don't ask me what he knows about Philip State.
Speaker 5: I mean he's literally a trust fun kid. I don't
Speaker 5: think he's owned anything work for in his life.
Speaker 6: But yeah, to get boot on Stephen Colbert's show as
Speaker 6: he goes and sort of sticks his grubby little fingers
Speaker 6: into American politics.
Speaker 5: Something he knows nothing about.
Speaker 6: By the way, is sort of this humiliation ritual of
Speaker 6: the highest order. I mean, this man is self exiled,
Speaker 6: self pitying, and he's increasingly allergic to dignity.
Speaker 5: It seriously takes.
Speaker 6: Real talent to make an American studio audience, which usually
Speaker 6: very nice to the royals, boo you, but you know
Speaker 6: he's a once in a generation overachiever in the art
Speaker 6: of an alienation. Danika genuinely and cannot get lower.
Speaker 4: No, well, I mean just when you think that he
Speaker 4: can get lower, when the Sussexes can, they just somehow
Speaker 4: shock us. They tag it to one other level and
Speaker 4: look in a shock to no one. Speaking of shocks,
Speaker 4: Meghan Markel's Netflix Christmas special has been a flop of
Speaker 4: epic proportions. Who would have thought It's been met with
Speaker 4: skathing reviews and when you see clips like this, Samara,
Speaker 4: you're not surprised.
Speaker 3: Have a look, so Christmas crackers?
Speaker 6: Have you been doing them for a long time?
Speaker 12: Well, living in the UK, it is just such a
Speaker 12: part of Is it a.
Speaker 5: Big part of the culture over there.
Speaker 7: For Christmas holidays?
Speaker 2: For sure?
Speaker 8: Oh that's cool.
Speaker 3: Oh, typically people cross arms into it.
Speaker 4: No way, you're doing it with the other person, Yes,
Speaker 4: and they all pulled at the same time, so the
Speaker 4: goss it actually does feel really connected a moment of community. Yeah.
Speaker 7: The way that I really served to know them was
Speaker 7: they would always have almost a fortune cookie size joke or.
Speaker 4: Riddle a Sahara, She's making it out like this is
Speaker 4: some sort of incredible revelation that people cross arms and
Speaker 4: crack Christmas crackers.
Speaker 3: What is she thinking, seriously?
Speaker 6: I mean her word salad is worse than Kamala hours
Speaker 6: they have. Everything she says just doesn't make sense. And
Speaker 6: that guest Willgadera, the one that was just on screen
Speaker 6: now summed it up the best. He said, here's where
Speaker 6: people get it wrong. I think people are trying so
Speaker 6: hard to impress the people they've invited over that they
Speaker 6: forget the reason the people are actually there, which was
Speaker 6: sort of a direct assault on Meghan's try hard behavior.
Speaker 5: But you're right.
Speaker 6: It's had terrible reviews, one star from the Telegraph. They've
Speaker 6: said Meghan's Christmas special is quite mad, a little bit sad,
Speaker 6: and the Times has said that is the Sussex Christmas Crackers.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's such a strange sort of turn of
Speaker 6: events where she's deciding to share just a tiny bit
Speaker 6: of her life in England and putting an essential oil
Speaker 6: for her three year old into a Christmas cracker and
Speaker 6: missing the whole point of a Christmas cracker, which is
Speaker 6: you don't know who's gonna win the Christmas Cracker. I mean,
Speaker 6: it just shows you how misguided she is with sort
Speaker 6: of both Australian.
Speaker 5: United KINGDM culture.
Speaker 6: She clearly had no idea what she was going into
Speaker 6: and it's all just some sort of consumerism best for her.
Speaker 4: No, And I wonder what they like when they say
Speaker 4: roll the cameras, act natural, and that's her trying to
Speaker 4: act natural. So no, wonder it's been an absolute flop.
Speaker 4: Samara Gil great to have you on as always. Thanks
Speaker 4: very much for Jonah on the show. Back at a
Speaker 4: moment with the winners and losers of the week, including
Speaker 4: Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson's surprise appearance at an Aussie
Speaker 4: puff and how desperate the housing debate has become.
Speaker 3: That's next.
Speaker 4: It is that time of the week where we sought
Speaker 4: the winners from the losers, and helping me to do
Speaker 4: that is Sky News contributor Louise Roberts. Louise, good to
Speaker 4: see if they see joining me now. Your winner this
Speaker 4: week is a young couple who got into the property
Speaker 4: market without help.
Speaker 13: That's right and they should be celebrated for this. But
Speaker 13: this story's absolutely gone off. So there are a young
Speaker 13: couple two women who bought a half million dollar apartment
Speaker 13: in Mount Druett, on their own. They haven't had help
Speaker 13: from the bank of mum and dad. They haven't really
Speaker 13: leaviash anything apart from good old fashion hard work and
Speaker 13: say one of them has been working since she was
Speaker 13: twelve years old, the other one since she was eighteen.
Speaker 13: But the story has gone gang buses because people are
Speaker 13: accusing them of being spoiled brats, NEPO babies, having rich
Speaker 13: parents who sort of secretly helped them out, and none
Speaker 13: of this is true. Now, I do understand this is
Speaker 13: probably a reflection of the broader resentment about getting onto
Speaker 13: the property ladder. But these people have bought their first
Speaker 13: home completely of their own volition and just through hard work.
Speaker 13: So I think we should be celebrating that because so
Speaker 13: often young people are castigated because they can't budget and
Speaker 13: they don't want to put the work in to actually
Speaker 13: say for a deposit. But this couple, I think my
Speaker 13: hat's off to them. They're definitely my went of the way.
Speaker 3: They would just be happy for other successes. Absolutely, it's
Speaker 3: a huge achievement.
Speaker 4: So bad it is very difficult to get into the
Speaker 4: housing market as a first home buyer.
Speaker 3: Just be happy for others.
Speaker 13: They're not sort of you know, on government handouts. They've
Speaker 13: done it furely from hard work. And one of them,
Speaker 13: Jamie Jackson, said, you know, we're going to enjoy our home.
Speaker 13: I don't care if people exactly.
Speaker 3: That's why wouldn't you celebrated? So, you know, great role model.
Speaker 4: Put on them great role models, and I congratulate them. Now,
Speaker 4: I thought this was really cool. I had to give
Speaker 4: my winner this week to Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson.
Speaker 4: They rocked up to an Ossie pub actually it's called
Speaker 4: Old Mates in New York, and they started singing Sweet
Speaker 4: Caroline and the lighting pub goals.
Speaker 3: Have a look. I mean, wouldn't you just love to
Speaker 3: be in that crowd? Now?
Speaker 4: They the co stars played members of a Neil Diamond
Speaker 4: tribute band. It's part of their new movie song Song Blue.
Speaker 4: I think I read somewhere it's based on a true story.
Speaker 4: But anyway, that pub is co owned by Ossie comedians
Speaker 4: Hamish Blake and Andy Lee. But I just thought right,
Speaker 4: and you know, he's not a pub classic two, it's
Speaker 4: a classic classic.
Speaker 13: Good for Ossie's abroad to be supporting each other in
Speaker 13: that way. And actually I went to the Oprah Show
Speaker 13: last night. She referenced these two doing the Sweet Caroline
Speaker 13: who actually we ended last night singing Sweet Caroline this
Speaker 13: all the tour people. Oh, it's definitely a meme at
Speaker 13: the moment. But yeah, Hugh Jackman, what a great ambassador,
Speaker 13: isn't he?
Speaker 3: Oh, isn't he the best? Amazing? And I actually really
Speaker 3: like Kate Hudson.
Speaker 4: I'm always thought that she was a great actress as well,
Speaker 4: just like her mother, exactly, just like Goldie. Now your
Speaker 4: loser while we were just talking about the Duchess of
Speaker 4: Sussex having a terrible week, isn't she? And now she's
Speaker 4: decided she's going to launch an eighteen dollar chocolate range
Speaker 4: at the same time as her father is fighting for
Speaker 4: his life.
Speaker 13: Yes, you just couldn't make that story, I really could she.
Speaker 13: I mean they have been estranged since twenty eighteen before
Speaker 13: Harry and Meghan got married. He did, I think, make
Speaker 13: some silly decisions around posing for pictures, getting measured up
Speaker 13: for his wedding suit, and releasing private correspondence leisurely off hers.
Speaker 13: But Meghan to actually release these eighteen dollars chocolate bars,
Speaker 13: knowing full well that her father, who's now in the Philippines,
Speaker 13: is very ill in hospital. He's been in ICU, he
Speaker 13: has he's had surgery. There's another blood clock situation, I believe,
Speaker 13: and his son Thomas Markle Junior, who is her half brother,
Speaker 13: has said that all we want is for Meghan to
Speaker 13: show her father some compassion.
Speaker 3: So it does beg the question.
Speaker 13: Yes, you know there's some bad blood and some bad
Speaker 13: issues between them, but if your father is on life
Speaker 13: support and hospital, you're not ignoring it and you're not
Speaker 13: got full steam ahead trying to flogs in chocolate.
Speaker 3: Take your time, Pick your time.
Speaker 4: Plus that dreadful Christmas special that she's released this week,
Speaker 4: so always bad timing for Megan. Now my loser this week,
Speaker 4: I've got to give it to parents who won't be
Speaker 4: allowed to parent under the social media ban for under sixteens.
Speaker 4: It was revealed in Setate estimates this week that they
Speaker 4: could find their own social media accounts restricted or blocked
Speaker 4: if they allowed their own children to use them.
Speaker 3: Have a look at this.
Speaker 8: We would expect that Google would assess that.
Speaker 9: So they block my account.
Speaker 8: So if I was allowing my child as a parent
Speaker 8: to use my account to look at content, they block
Speaker 8: my account.
Speaker 10: They may you're going to restrict the right parents the
Speaker 10: user of the account.
Speaker 3: How about let parents parent Louise.
Speaker 13: Well, apparently that's not allowed, is it. Although I think
Speaker 13: overall the band is a good idea, you have to
Speaker 13: allow some discretion. If parents want them kids look at
Speaker 13: their phones. You cannot block the phone of the parent.
Speaker 13: That's just just dictatorial.
Speaker 3: Exactly what are we? China?
Speaker 4: Russia? Come on at Lawy's Roberts. Good to see you us.
Speaker 4: Always have a nice weekend. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: We'll see you soon. That's it from me.
Speaker 4: Are we back on Sunday night at seven for Deneka
Speaker 4: and James stay with us.
Speaker 3: Up next is Steve Price. Good night,