Speaker 1: Live on Sky News Australia.
Speaker 2: This is to Nika de Georgio.
Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to the show. Coming up tonight. Israel's
Speaker 3: government approves Donald Trump's peace plan. Finally, the President says,
Speaker 3: the surviving twenty Israeli hostages will be released back into
Speaker 3: the arms of loved ones on Monday or Tuesday. Anthony
Speaker 3: Abnezi and Penny One caught out on the wrong side
Speaker 3: of history. Thankfully, Israel ignored their repeated calls for restraint
Speaker 3: and de escalation. Plus, I asked the sex discrimination Commissioner
Speaker 3: to come on the show tonight and explain why she
Speaker 3: does not know the difference between a man and a
Speaker 3: woman gets She declined. I'll catch up with Liberal Senator
Speaker 3: Claire Chandler shortly for first tonight. It's really happening. After
Speaker 3: two years, the surviving twenty Israeli hostages are expected to
Speaker 3: be released back into the arms of loved ones in
Speaker 3: days thanks to the historic Gaza piece Steel by Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: The front page of Today's Jerusalem Post sums up the mood.
Speaker 3: He's bringing them home is the headline day in day out.
Speaker 3: Since October seven, twenty twenty three, we have seen horrific
Speaker 3: vision coming out of the Middle East as this war
Speaker 3: started by Hamas raged on. But now finally there is hope.
Speaker 3: The Israeli government has in the last few hours approved
Speaker 3: Donald Trump's peace plan. It means it's now highly likely
Speaker 3: that it's all systems go. A cease fire has commenced,
Speaker 3: the IDF will withdraw from Gaza, and if all goes
Speaker 3: to plan, all surviving twenty hostages will be released within
Speaker 3: a seventy two hour window. As Donald Trump prepares to
Speaker 3: travel to Egypt for the official signing.
Speaker 4: It's going to be great, and I think it's the
Speaker 4: hostages will be coming back Monday or Tuesday. I'll probably
Speaker 4: We'll probably be there. I hope to be there. This
Speaker 4: is a great plan, this is a great peace land.
Speaker 4: There's a plan that was supported by everybody. I mean,
Speaker 4: as I said, they're dancing in the streets of many,
Speaker 4: many countries right now. It's amazing.
Speaker 5: I've never seen anything like it.
Speaker 3: And look, the significance of that moment when the hostages
Speaker 3: are handed over cannot be understated. Now we have to
Speaker 3: be cautious, and it's right to be cautious about what
Speaker 3: happens after they are released. But right now there is
Speaker 3: no doubt this plan is the best hope Israel has
Speaker 3: got to claim back its sovereignty and bring peace to
Speaker 3: the region in the end. Who else has a plan
Speaker 3: on the table for Gaza, which has been run by
Speaker 3: Hamas for years with the intent of killing Jews and
Speaker 3: occupying its own state. And this is a plan to
Speaker 3: rebuild Gaza and rid harmas of its influence.
Speaker 4: We're going to create something where people can live. You
Speaker 4: can to live right now and Gaza, you know the place.
Speaker 4: It's a horrible situation. Nobody's ever seen anything like it.
Speaker 4: So yeah, we're going to create better conditions.
Speaker 6: For peoplehen you.
Speaker 3: So if Donald Trump can pull this off next week,
Speaker 3: the world will be a better place for it. And
Speaker 3: I've said this before and I'll say it again. If
Speaker 3: he does it, give Donald Trump the Nobel Peace Prize.
Speaker 3: But look, all this does is show up Anthony Albanesi
Speaker 3: and Pennywong for the foreign policy embarrassment they are. For
Speaker 3: two years, they've been on the wrong side of history,
Speaker 3: and for two years they've been all about momentum, momentum
Speaker 3: for peace in the Middle East, momentum for change, no action,
Speaker 3: just momentum. Their whole Middle East and foreign policy has
Speaker 3: been dictated by a form of energetic measurement.
Speaker 7: We want to be part of the global momentum for.
Speaker 8: Peace, build on the momentum for peace.
Speaker 7: Palestinian statehood as a way of building momentum.
Speaker 9: A practical contribution towards building momentum.
Speaker 10: Australia is making our contribution to that progress and to
Speaker 10: that momentum.
Speaker 3: Not once has that momentum turned into actual results towards peace. Now,
Speaker 3: after having previously claimed credit for Trump's peace, still saying
Speaker 3: his recognition of Palestine provided the positive momentum for Trump
Speaker 3: to put one on the table, the Prime Minister today
Speaker 3: had some sort of a reality check.
Speaker 9: I very much welcome this breakthrough President Trump, desas congratulations
Speaker 9: for the leadership that the United States has shown with.
Speaker 3: Gee what that must have taken for the PM to
Speaker 3: actually give someone credit where it's due and not pat
Speaker 3: himself on the back and claim all the glory. He
Speaker 3: went on to say this.
Speaker 9: We have called for some time for a cease fire,
Speaker 9: for the release of hostages, for aid to be granted.
Speaker 1: That needs to happen, and we also need to.
Speaker 9: Talk about the day after, which requires a two state solution.
Speaker 9: In Australia's work constructively with people.
Speaker 3: Now, I have wondered over two years if the PM
Speaker 3: or Pennywong even though that Hamas is a death cult
Speaker 3: terror group, because it's all just been about a ceasefire
Speaker 3: and then the release of the hostages. Now, had Israel
Speaker 3: actually listened to Albo ceasefire calls, Israel would have been
Speaker 3: wiped out and Hermus would have achieved its goal. It
Speaker 3: would have seen Hermas still in charge of the Gaza
Speaker 3: strip and still with a mandate that it's in its
Speaker 3: charter to destroy Israel. Yep. Pennywong was today also talking
Speaker 3: about what's that key word momentum?
Speaker 7: How do we build momentum? Coalition has been out of
Speaker 7: step with the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and the many
Speaker 7: countries which sought to recognize to provide help provide that momentum.
Speaker 7: What we've seen from the coalition is a negativity, a
Speaker 7: desire to have a political division when really we should
Speaker 7: have speaking with one voice.
Speaker 3: Well, momentum is not an argument for peace. This deal
Speaker 3: has not been agreed to because Anthony Albanezi, Penny Wong
Speaker 3: and the rest of their lefty friends displayed momentum in
Speaker 3: rewarding terror on the world stage, in recognizing a Palestinian state.
Speaker 3: All that momentum and restraint has done is reward her
Speaker 3: MUSS and tell the terror group to keep doing what
Speaker 3: it's doing. While Australia, the UK, France and Canada were
Speaker 3: betraying Jews and on the world stage not putting forward
Speaker 3: any plan for peace, Donald Trump was actually working on
Speaker 3: a plan to make a tangible difference. The only pathway
Speaker 3: to peace has been because of Israel's sustained military operation,
Speaker 3: which has slowly dismantled her MUSS and its operations, something
Speaker 3: Anthony Albenezi and Penny Wong have repeatedly warned against.
Speaker 9: Wanting to prioritize dialogue and diplomacy.
Speaker 7: We wish to see de escalation.
Speaker 9: With plomacy, dialogue and de escalation.
Speaker 7: Israel's friends urge Israel to exercise restraint.
Speaker 9: We continue to call for a cease fire along with
Speaker 9: the rest of the world.
Speaker 7: Show restrained and de escalated.
Speaker 3: But never mind, there's momentum, right and where has Labour's
Speaker 3: momentum got us? Here? In Australia with a fractioned social
Speaker 3: fabric which has been decayed day by day, not that
Speaker 3: Pennywong seems to notice.
Speaker 11: The social cohesion has been an issue that you've been
Speaker 11: aware of and saying, don't bring the conflict here. If
Speaker 11: this piece deal has done, this ceasefire achieved, should people
Speaker 11: just ease up on that sort of weekly protest now?
Speaker 7: Well, I think certainly political leaders should ease up, and
Speaker 7: I think we've seen both the Coalition and the Greens
Speaker 7: really try to bring the conflict here. Politically, social cohesion matters,
Speaker 7: and what that means is we live in peace. We
Speaker 7: respect each other's rights to have different views, and we
Speaker 7: do disagree with respectfully, we don't do we don't engage
Speaker 7: in violence, we don't engage in hatred, and we don't
Speaker 7: engage in abuse.
Speaker 3: Really, political leaders should ease up. Well, I'll show you
Speaker 3: what leaders easing up has led to anti Israel protests,
Speaker 3: wreaking havoc week and week out. The Australian and Israeli
Speaker 3: flags set alight on the steps of the Sydney Opera
Speaker 3: House and replaced by flags of terror groups. A portrait
Speaker 3: of the Ayatola of Iran carried across the Harbor Bridge
Speaker 3: Synagogue's firebomb. Anti Semitic slogans were feeded on houses and businesses,
Speaker 3: Jews intimidated day in day out. Sorry, I mean unless
Speaker 3: I've missed something. I think that sums up what leaders
Speaker 3: easing up has looked like. I don't know what this is.
Speaker 3: Maybe what Pennywong means when she says that we should
Speaker 3: try and respect each other's views. I'm smiling and unhappy.
Speaker 12: I'm inagan.
Speaker 1: It's a day of courage.
Speaker 3: And don't forget the majority of our MPs, including Alban
Speaker 3: Easy and Penny Wong, have not even bothered to watch
Speaker 3: the full October seven footage of the carnage carried out
Speaker 3: by Humas. Now we finally have an end game on
Speaker 3: the table, one that sees Hamas gone, Israel able to
Speaker 3: live in peace and not on edge urgently preparing for
Speaker 3: a response to another attack on its civilians. Thank goodness
Speaker 3: for Donald Trump, not for momentum. Let's get more now
Speaker 3: on that Gaza pie Steel. Joining me is Joel Bernie
Speaker 3: from the Australia Israel and Jewish Affairs Council. Joel, good
Speaker 3: to see you as always. Thank you for joining me.
Speaker 3: How do you feel? It does? Certainly seems as though
Speaker 3: it's all systems go? But what could still go wrong.
Speaker 6: Thank you, Tanika as always for having me well. One
Speaker 6: thing that I am is I'm excited by the prospect
Speaker 6: that after two years in captivity, hopefully twenty living hostages
Speaker 6: along with twenty eight deceased bodies, will be coming to
Speaker 6: Israel shortly, potentially as soon as Monday. So in your
Speaker 6: opening monologue you stress that the Israeli Cabinet and government
Speaker 6: has approved the first phase of the hostage release deal,
Speaker 6: which will see the hostages being released, hopefully within seventy
Speaker 6: two hours, as I said on Monday, but it also
Speaker 6: includes the release of close to two thousand Palestinian prisoners
Speaker 6: back into Gaza and other areas, with at least two
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty serving life sentences. So the cost to
Speaker 6: Israel within this transaction to get their loved ones back
Speaker 6: is going to be immense. It's going to be very,
Speaker 6: very difficult for the Israeli public to have to take
Speaker 6: in because of the fact that a number of murderers
Speaker 6: are going to be released shortly. But overall there's a
Speaker 6: huge sense of elation and optimism and hope that in
Speaker 6: the next seventy two hours you'll start seeing some of
Speaker 6: those hostages being released.
Speaker 3: Well, look, look, absolutely, I think there is genuinely a
Speaker 3: sense of optimism for the first time in two years.
Speaker 3: I guess the issue, Joel, is that for hostage families
Speaker 3: it's almost bittersweet because they don't know if their loved
Speaker 3: ones are coming back dead or alive.
Speaker 6: Well, that's right, and also the condition of the living
Speaker 6: hostages is not well known either, and we do know
Speaker 6: that they've been starved over the past two years. They've
Speaker 6: been completely lacking any type of natural light. They've been
Speaker 6: hiding underground in tunnels, chained, you know, completely locked off
Speaker 6: from any type of services such as the Red Crescent
Speaker 6: or the Red Cross. So I have no doubt that
Speaker 6: over the next couple of days come as we'll be
Speaker 6: feeding the hostages to give them some unfortunate, well needed
Speaker 6: meat on their bones before they're released. But you're right,
Speaker 6: the torture of the families hasn't ceased yet and won't
Speaker 6: cease until their loved ones are back. But the overall
Speaker 6: elation of the nation who needs to be whole again
Speaker 6: by bringing back every single soul that was taken on
Speaker 6: that fateful day nearly two years ago. But we need
Speaker 6: to then transition our focus from happiness and elation to
Speaker 6: the practical issues that we still have within the implementation
Speaker 6: and full of the Trump Piece plan, which includes the
Speaker 6: other phases of the deal, notably the demilitarization of Commas
Speaker 6: and the installation of a new technocratic government which does
Speaker 6: not include commands. So these are very very big issues
Speaker 6: yet to be ironed out and yet to be agreed upon.
Speaker 6: So Israel will have to transition quickly from very very
Speaker 6: huge elation and happiness to keenly focused on what the
Speaker 6: day after in Gaza is actually going to look like.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what I want to ask you, because obviously
Speaker 3: this is phase one. You know, you just mentioned what
Speaker 3: the other phases do look like. This is not something
Speaker 3: that is going to happen overnight. How long will it
Speaker 3: take to actually implement this plan in full? Do you think?
Speaker 6: Well, I really I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 6: But what I do know is is that the president
Speaker 6: has been set that if you want to set a
Speaker 6: timetable to do things, if you want Kamas to do
Speaker 6: things that they don't want to do, it requires United
Speaker 6: isolation and pressure from the international community to back it
Speaker 6: into a corner. Treat it like the terrorist death cult
Speaker 6: that it is and force it with the leverage that
Speaker 6: you have to do what needs to be done. That
Speaker 6: is the only reason now, after two very very long years,
Speaker 6: that we've got to this juncture because finally the world,
Speaker 6: led by President Trump and the Arab countries along with Turkey,
Speaker 6: decided that Hamas was going to be its focus to
Speaker 6: isolate it and to force it to release the hostages
Speaker 6: and hopefully relinquish control to provide the population in Gaza
Speaker 6: with a bright fuwuture. So realistically, Danika, it's not just
Speaker 6: on TAMAS as to what it chooses to do in
Speaker 6: phase two and Phase three, but it's up to the
Speaker 6: international community, including Australia, to continue the focus on isolating Commas. Now,
Speaker 6: Australia has said CAAMAS can have no role in the
Speaker 6: future governance of Gaza. So what happens in six months
Speaker 6: time if they maybe decide to demilitarize, which I think
Speaker 6: is a long shot as well, but if they do
Speaker 6: but then want to have some type of role in
Speaker 6: the future government government is our government. France, the UK,
Speaker 6: Canada going to roll over like they did with their
Speaker 6: preconditions for unilateral statehood. They rolled on those conditions. They
Speaker 6: did not maintain those conditions before recognition. They went about
Speaker 6: recognizing before those conditions were met. My concern is is
Speaker 6: that that perceived weakness of the West, including countries in Australia,
Speaker 6: will continue and not hold up their end of the
Speaker 6: bargain to ensure that TAMAS has no role in the
Speaker 6: future governments of Gaza.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, I mean you raise a really good point. I
Speaker 3: guess there are so many unknowns that it does rely
Speaker 3: on countries around the world coming together on this. But look,
Speaker 3: no doubt Monday and Tuesday, when those hostages are released
Speaker 3: that it's just going to be a real, incredible, incredible moment,
Speaker 3: and we just hope that everything goes to plan. Job Bernie,
Speaker 3: good to see you as always. Thank you very much
Speaker 3: for joining me on the show. Appreciate it well. Joining
Speaker 3: me now is Shadow Cabinet Secretary Andrew Wallace. Andrew, thanks
Speaker 3: for your time. I want to start with this peace plan.
Speaker 3: This is a bit of what Penny Wong had to
Speaker 3: say today. Have a listen.
Speaker 7: You know, the coalition really has been out of step
Speaker 7: with the international community for such a long time. Remember
Speaker 7: the coalition opposed to cease Father President Trump himself supported
Speaker 7: Remember the Coalition has not understood the way in which
Speaker 7: the international community, that different countries of the world have
Speaker 7: come together over a year to try and work how
Speaker 7: it is that we create the conditions for the pathway
Speaker 7: to peace.
Speaker 3: What do you make of her assertion that the Coalition
Speaker 3: is the one that's out of step with the international
Speaker 3: community on this issue.
Speaker 8: Well, the first thing I'd say, Janiga is that, of
Speaker 8: course the international community has been divided on this. But
Speaker 8: to hear Penny Wong trying to side up with Donald
Speaker 8: Trump and the US administration talk about trying to jump
Speaker 8: on the bandwagon, I mean, it's just unbelievable. The Albanesi
Speaker 8: government has constantly criticized, in a polite sort of way,
Speaker 8: the US administration's response to dealing with this peace plan,
Speaker 8: but it really gets up my skin because what it
Speaker 8: does do Penny Wong's comments really seem to just disregard
Speaker 8: the US's efforts in all of this, and allies in
Speaker 8: the Pacific as well that have supported Israel through all
Speaker 8: of this. Countries like Australia, like France, like the UK
Speaker 8: have walked away from the only democracy in the Middle East,
Speaker 8: And now to see Penny Wong trying to crab Walk.
Speaker 8: I saw the Prime Minister during the week trying to
Speaker 8: make some lily livid argument that it was as a
Speaker 8: result of him and his unilateral recognition of Palestine that
Speaker 8: this deal was done. I mean, come on, Danika, please
Speaker 8: get me a bucket.
Speaker 3: Oh honestly, it's actually embarrassing. Do they want the Nobel
Speaker 3: Peace Prize? I don't know. I just think it's it's
Speaker 3: actually embarrassing. Yeah, no, it really really is. Andrew, I
Speaker 3: want to ask you about let's talk about the ices brides. Look,
Speaker 3: all we've seen all week is ducking and weaving from labor.
Speaker 3: It's been quite breathtaking to watch, but none more than
Speaker 3: Tony Burke, who's now admitted to actually providing the first
Speaker 3: lot of returning brides and their children with passports and
Speaker 3: DNA tests despite denials for days. Have a listen.
Speaker 12: Under the laws governing passports, if someone is.
Speaker 5: Eligible for a passport and.
Speaker 12: Applies to one of our embassies, there is an obligation
Speaker 12: for them to be provided with it. These individuals, these
Speaker 12: individuals received what they were entitled to by law, no more.
Speaker 3: And no less, Andrew, Australians deserve to feel safe. But
Speaker 3: how can we when isis brides are being let in
Speaker 3: and the minister in charge seems to be backflipping daily
Speaker 3: on what he knew and what he didn't.
Speaker 8: I got thrown out of question time yesterday, Tanika, because
Speaker 8: I pointed out to the Prime Minister that in the
Speaker 8: last sitting week here we had the Prime Minister repeatedly
Speaker 8: saying no assistant assistance has been provided, and yet yesterday
Speaker 8: Tony Burke came out and said it would actually be
Speaker 8: an offense if they didn't provide assistance. Firstly, what would
Speaker 8: the offense be? When was the last time we ever
Speaker 8: saw a government, particularly the Australian government, charged with anything.
Speaker 8: They have totally changed their story. So this is very
Speaker 8: very serious because what it means when you have Tony
Speaker 8: Burke coming out and contradicting what the Prime Minister had said,
Speaker 8: one of them is misleading the Parliament. Which one of
Speaker 8: them is it is that the Prime Minister for having
Speaker 8: said no assistance was provided, because that's the way it's
Speaker 8: looking on the evidence of Tony Burke, assistance was provided
Speaker 8: when the Prime Minister said it wasn't. So really, this
Speaker 8: is now an actual full blown scandal where the Prime
Speaker 8: Minister looks like he has misled the Parliament.
Speaker 3: The other thing is is we now know that more
Speaker 3: Isis brides than their kids are on their way. We
Speaker 3: don't know how many. We don't know where they're going
Speaker 3: to live, we don't know what threat they pose. We
Speaker 3: still don't know about the other cohort. Why is Labor
Speaker 3: so secretive about this?
Speaker 8: Well, because they're trying to walk both sides of the fence.
Speaker 8: They're trying to appease the left of the Labor Party
Speaker 8: and they're trying to He's Western Sydney in bringing these
Speaker 8: isis brides back, but they don't want to cop the
Speaker 8: political flak for them having done so. I mean, it's
Speaker 8: never the lie, it's always the cover up. And this
Speaker 8: government has been caught with their hands in the cookie
Speaker 8: jar and they have a lot to answer for now.
Speaker 8: They've got a lot to answer for as to why
Speaker 8: they didn't put things like temporary exclusion orders to ensure
Speaker 8: that those isis brides didn't come back into the country.
Speaker 8: Why are they not putting temporary exclusion orders on the
Speaker 8: other cohorts that are due to come back. Why aren't
Speaker 8: the existing isis brides that are now in Australia under
Speaker 8: control orders and if they are, well, Australians have a
Speaker 8: right to know that that is the case. We're being
Speaker 8: told nothing. We are being kept like mushrooms.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and we should be told because this is
Speaker 3: a matter of national secure In the end, these brides
Speaker 3: have gone over there on this g hardy romance and
Speaker 3: now they want to come back into this country. I
Speaker 3: just it's just an absolute disgrace. Andrew Wallace, We've got
Speaker 3: to leave it there. Good to see you as always,
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for joining me on the show. We're
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Speaker 3: my panel next welcome back. Joining me now is my
Speaker 3: panel former Liberal Senator Holly Hughes and former New South
Speaker 3: Wales police minister David Elliott. Good to see you both,
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining me. I want to
Speaker 3: start with this planned pro Palestine protest in Sydney this Sunday.
Speaker 3: So as we know, the court ruled that they can't
Speaker 3: do it at the Sydney Opera House, which is great news.
Speaker 3: But I've got to say, you know what, on Earth.
Speaker 3: Could they possibly be protesting about now, David, we've got
Speaker 3: a piece steal on the table. I don't hear them
Speaker 3: celebrating that yet. The organizer said today, quote, we are
Speaker 3: fighting not just the end of the genocide, but for
Speaker 3: the liberation of Palestine. Our movement will not be stopped.
Speaker 3: So nothing about the peace deal, David, nothing at all.
Speaker 10: Well, this is proof that they will just continue to
Speaker 10: radicalize locally and of course provide that pressure on overseas
Speaker 10: governments to support the Palestinian demands, which won't stop. I mean,
Speaker 10: you don't see the Israelis or the Jewish community campaigning
Speaker 10: or protesting again beyond today's announcement about the peace protest,
Speaker 10: and the mere fact that the Palestinian authorities are encouraging
Speaker 10: this and locally the pro Palestine groups want to continue
Speaker 10: to protest, means that we aren't going to be seeing
Speaker 10: an end of this anytime soon.
Speaker 3: No, I agree. I mean, it's just going to keep
Speaker 3: going on and on, even if we get to that
Speaker 3: point of peace, Holly, and I've got to say, it's
Speaker 3: beyond the point where we can say, oh, this is
Speaker 3: about free speech. Right. There's been an undertone of hate
Speaker 3: at these protests from the beginning, and now they won't
Speaker 3: even back off and celebrate peace.
Speaker 13: Well, I think it demonstrates that these are all about hate.
Speaker 13: This is what these protests actually are about. Hate for
Speaker 13: the Jewish people, hate for Zionist, hate for Israel, and
Speaker 13: hate for the West. Quite frankly, I mean, these are
Speaker 13: all extreme left wing id logues and this is their
Speaker 13: cause to jure and until they get the next cause,
Speaker 13: I don't think they'll stop. And it's extraordinary that we're
Speaker 13: still seeing their failure to recognize there was peace between
Speaker 13: Israel and Gaza on October six, and it was the
Speaker 13: Hamask group and the Palestinian people that participated in that
Speaker 13: that caused all of this just over two years ago.
Speaker 13: So we know it's about hate, we know it's about
Speaker 13: anti Israel, and quite frankly, the behavior of this federal
Speaker 13: government has done nothing but embolden them. And I think
Speaker 13: there may be no end in sight, as I say,
Speaker 13: until they find the next left wing cause that they
Speaker 13: can cause.
Speaker 3: A ruck a Sober.
Speaker 13: I don't know Australia days around the corner.
Speaker 3: Maybe Oh well, Homo, please gosh, Holly, I mean, you're right,
Speaker 3: you're right, but we're going to get there at some point.
Speaker 3: But gee, yeah, no, look you're spot on now. Look
Speaker 3: I want to ask you both about the Isis brides. David,
Speaker 3: we've spoken about this before because you were the first
Speaker 3: counter terrorism minister in New South Wales and when I
Speaker 3: first asked you about this on my show last week
Speaker 3: when it first broke, you were unconvinced by Labour's claims
Speaker 3: that they were not involved in this repatriation. Now Tony Burke,
Speaker 3: of course, has finally admitted that they gave them passports
Speaker 3: and DNA checks. Are you convinced that this is enough
Speaker 3: to ensure our safety?
Speaker 11: No, not at all.
Speaker 10: This problem did not sneak up on us. Ten years
Speaker 10: ago when I was first made the Minister for Corrections,
Speaker 10: before I was counter Tourism minister, we were talking about
Speaker 10: preparation for returning Isis brides and how we would block it.
Speaker 10: We would bring in the protection orders, we would make
Speaker 10: sure that before they got on a plane, and we
Speaker 10: were convinced that they were deradicalized, had to be prepared
Speaker 10: for any charges that would be laid against them because
Speaker 10: they had been associated with terrorist organizations, and of course
Speaker 10: we wanted to make sure the state was prepared to
Speaker 10: either incarcerate or continue to provide surveillance. Now, all of
Speaker 10: that was debated ten years ago, and I think we've
Speaker 10: seen some very very tricky footwork from the Commonwealth over
Speaker 10: the course of the last week as they realized that
Speaker 10: they'd been misleading the community. And I'm horrified that the
Speaker 10: thought that somebody that believed in a cause like Isis
Speaker 10: or Hamas or Hesbalah have decided that it's time to
Speaker 10: come home because it's much nicer and more comfortable in
Speaker 10: a Housing Commission house in Melbourne. And I think Australians
Speaker 10: need to be asking their like a member, why is
Speaker 10: this happening, where are they going and what continued surveillance
Speaker 10: will ensure the safety of our communities, because the United
Speaker 10: Kingdom has seen what happens when a radical people fall
Speaker 10: off the radar. They're not deradicalized, and then of course
Speaker 10: they go and continue to commit atrocities.
Speaker 3: Look absolutely, and the thing is is that once these
Speaker 3: women left this country, they betrayed our values when they
Speaker 3: went and joined the death cult. Now, just because this
Speaker 3: Geharti romance hasn't quite worked out for them, Holly, they think,
Speaker 3: oh well, we can swam back in as David said
Speaker 3: in Housing Commission in Melbourne, on the taxpayer's dime of course,
Speaker 3: But what do you make of how Labor has dealt
Speaker 3: with this issue this week.
Speaker 13: Well, they haven't just betrayed our values, they've actually broken
Speaker 13: Commonwealth law. There are Commonwealth laws applicable about traveling to
Speaker 13: a declared zone with regards to terrorist activities, and these
Speaker 13: people absolutely broke Australian law. So at the very least
Speaker 13: they should be being prosecuted via that Commonwealth law. And
Speaker 13: I have no doubt if any of that law needed
Speaker 13: to be changed or strengthened that the Coalition would get
Speaker 13: behind the lab government to support that, But of course
Speaker 13: that's not what's happening.
Speaker 3: I do think that the premiers have a role here.
Speaker 13: I think the Premier's need demand from the Prime Minister
Speaker 13: knowledge of where these isis brides have returned to, and
Speaker 13: that the communities have the right to know that these
Speaker 13: people have been placed within their communities. There should, of
Speaker 13: course be the protection orders, deradicalization and all of those
Speaker 13: other programs being put in place, but the federal government's
Speaker 13: really only responsibility when it comes down to it, is
Speaker 13: keeping Australians safe and we can see now this government
Speaker 13: that was supposed to be about transparency and honesty with
Speaker 13: the Australian people is anything but. It is in fact
Speaker 13: the complete opposite, and in their attempts to appease their
Speaker 13: own internal left wing, they are actually putting Australian's lives
Speaker 13: at risk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I certainly agree. And I also thought, you know,
Speaker 3: the fact that Tony Burke has this week backflipped and
Speaker 3: backflipped on multiple positions, has lied to the Australian public,
Speaker 3: and then you know, finally admits, actually we did give
Speaker 3: them passports and we don't know where these people living.
Speaker 3: We know absolutely no information and once again it's an
Speaker 3: absolute national security failure on behalf of labor. Now, look,
Speaker 3: I thought this next story was quite interesting. Defense has
Speaker 3: banned further print runs of its Taste of Harmony cookbook. Now,
Speaker 3: our viewers might remember that this cookbook was produced by
Speaker 3: the Departments Guided Weapons and Explosive Ordinance Group. This is
Speaker 3: the same group task with establishing a two hundred billion
Speaker 3: dollar plus domestic missile manufacturing industry, which is a goal
Speaker 3: that remains very very distant. Yet somehow time was found
Speaker 3: to produce a cookbook on the taxpayer's dime, David. But
Speaker 3: now Defense have finally banned it. Is it a good call?
Speaker 10: Well, I mean I'm as you can see, I was
Speaker 10: quite a connoisseur of defense cooking and I want to
Speaker 10: put a little bit of without defending the brass, I
Speaker 10: will highlight the fact that in the military, whether it
Speaker 10: be you know, having powdered eggs in a gunpit or
Speaker 10: dining in the officer's mess on a for a formal occasion,
Speaker 10: food is very very important, you know, as Napoleon said,
Speaker 10: an army marches on its stomach. However, the tone of
Speaker 10: this book, and he wasn't the commander of the catering Corps.
Speaker 10: This was a senior, a two or three star, that
Speaker 10: was supposed to be engaged elsewhere, and the tone of
Speaker 10: harmony just doesn't sit right. I think the RSL might
Speaker 10: have something to say about this as well.
Speaker 6: That does.
Speaker 10: It doesn't seem to work well, and I think I
Speaker 10: think people will be scratching their heads wondering why a
Speaker 10: three star officer is engaged in harmony cooking but in
Speaker 10: the defense of the Australian Army Catering Corps shout out
Speaker 10: to all of our army cookies. They it is culturally
Speaker 10: an important part of Defense Service's life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, A, Look, I don't have a problem with being
Speaker 3: a connoisseur, Like I don't have any issues with that.
Speaker 3: My issue, Holly is is that they've been in this
Speaker 3: particular group's been tasked with this enormous project worth twenty
Speaker 3: billion dollars. It's running so far behind schedule, but the
Speaker 3: time has been found to make a cookbook. I don't
Speaker 3: know what's your views.
Speaker 13: Look, I don't know where they attaching copies of the
Speaker 13: cookbook to the missiles.
Speaker 3: That they're supposed to be developing.
Speaker 13: Look, I'm hoping it's been stopped because David Johnson, who's
Speaker 13: the new Chief of Defense, is an eminently sensible.
Speaker 3: Man and an absolutely beautiful person.
Speaker 13: So I'm hopeful that he's actually the one who's gone
Speaker 13: enough of this rubbish, and under him, we're going to
Speaker 13: see a reduction in the woke activities that the ADF
Speaker 13: was becoming such fervent fans of. But I mean, I've
Speaker 13: read this story and reread this story and read the
Speaker 13: story again, and I still cannot figure out who thought
Speaker 13: this was a good idea, what it was about. I'm
Speaker 13: with David I did all my ADF programs when I
Speaker 13: was in Parliament and loved them. And the importance of
Speaker 13: feeding our soldiers is absolutely paramount, particularly on the submarines.
Speaker 13: That's actually probably the highest quality food you will get
Speaker 13: across the defense forces, because clearly they don't have much
Speaker 13: else going on when they're underneath the surface.
Speaker 3: But yeah, whoever thought this was a good idea is
Speaker 3: a little bit beyond me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, I don't think that China is currently out there
Speaker 3: producing cookbooks. Let's be realistic. China's got other priorities right now.
Speaker 3: Holy Hugh's David Elliott. Nice to see you both have
Speaker 3: a great weekend. Thanks very much for jod of me
Speaker 3: on the show. Well, coming up after the break, I
Speaker 3: asked the sex Discrimination Commissioner to come on the show
Speaker 3: and explain why she doesn't know the difference between a
Speaker 3: man and a woman. I'll tell you her response next. Plus,
Speaker 3: we'll go live to London where UK Prime Minister Sir
Speaker 3: Keir Starmer has praised Donald Trump for the success of
Speaker 3: his peace deal, and he's also taken credit. It sounds
Speaker 3: a bit like Albo. That's next Welcome back, where we
Speaker 3: live in a very strange world. Where Australia's very own
Speaker 3: sex Discrimination commissioner does not know the difference between a man.
Speaker 14: And a woman, lesbians, trans women, non binary. There are
Speaker 14: a range of people who identify as women who are women.
Speaker 15: Did you mean that biological males can be women.
Speaker 3: Men?
Speaker 14: So I think that we have different language that perhaps
Speaker 14: you're using than I would use. So I don't understand
Speaker 14: the term biological men.
Speaker 3: Oh dear, Well, Anna Cody is paid four hundred thousand
Speaker 3: dollars a year to tell us that she doesn't know
Speaker 3: what a biological man is. Now, I asked Anna Cody
Speaker 3: onto my show tonight, she declined. In a statement. A
Speaker 3: spokesperson said, the commissioner advocates extensively for the safety of
Speaker 3: women and children. Well, if she is such an advocate,
Speaker 3: why not come on the show and tell us? Is
Speaker 3: it because she knows that maybe her arguments don't actually
Speaker 3: stack up? Earlier I spoke to Liberal Senator Claire Chandler,
Speaker 3: who asked brilliant questions and set at estimates this week,
Speaker 3: and started by asking her how a woman whose job
Speaker 3: it is to protect women's rights doesn't know the very definition.
Speaker 15: Well, I don't think it makes sense at all. I mean,
Speaker 15: like you say, our sex discrimination commissioner doesn't understand what
Speaker 15: biological sex is, and she doesn't understand the rights that
Speaker 15: should reasonably attach to that women's sex based rights, the
Speaker 15: rights to single sex services and spaces that I've been
Speaker 15: advocating for for many, many years now. So I think
Speaker 15: we kind of need to reframe that question. I mean,
Speaker 15: the reality is here we have a sex discrimination commissioner
Speaker 15: who doesn't actually defend women's.
Speaker 3: Rights at all. No, look, she doesn't. And well done
Speaker 3: to you on your excellent questioning in Senate estimates this week.
Speaker 3: What shame that you couldn't actually get the answers to
Speaker 3: such simple questions. I did, for the record ask the
Speaker 3: commissioner on my show today. She declined, but in a
Speaker 3: statement said that the commissioner advocates extensively for the safety
Speaker 3: of women and children. I mean, if she's such an advocate,
Speaker 3: then well I would expect that she should come and
Speaker 3: do some media interviews, come on the show. But Senator,
Speaker 3: you also asked Anna Cody about a biological male prisoner
Speaker 3: who raped his own child and is now being held
Speaker 3: in a women's prison. This was the response.
Speaker 15: Do you consider that this man who is a child
Speaker 15: sex offender is a woman.
Speaker 14: The Sex Discrimination Act includes trans women within it, So
Speaker 14: the person who I believe you're referring to is a
Speaker 14: trans woman.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, i'd ask the question, Senator, is that
Speaker 3: advocating extensively for the rights of women and children?
Speaker 15: Absolutely, it's not. And I think that very much goes
Speaker 15: to the point that you were talking about earlier, that
Speaker 15: when we conflate these terms and pretend that woman means
Speaker 15: anything other than an adult human female, that's where we
Speaker 15: find ourselves in the situation that we're currently in, where
Speaker 15: our Sex Discrimination Commissioner can't actually advocate for the protection
Speaker 15: of women's sports, women's services, women's spaces like women's prisons
Speaker 15: where you see people like sal Grover being dragged through
Speaker 15: courts of law in this country for offering a women's
Speaker 15: single sex space, and indeed, like the example that we've
Speaker 15: seen in Victoria where female prison inmates are being subjected
Speaker 15: to a dangerous male sex offender because that males decided
Speaker 15: to identify into their prison. We need more clear cut
Speaker 15: rules here, and I think it's incredibly disappointing that the
Speaker 15: Sex Discrimination Commissioner, who, like you say, is on a
Speaker 15: salary of more than four hundred thousand dollars a year,
Speaker 15: can't bring herself at Senate estimates to defend the rights
Speaker 15: of Australian women and girls. And I want to just
Speaker 15: ask you on the point that she made in.
Speaker 3: Relation to the Sex Discrimination Act. She says that it
Speaker 3: contains the term trans women. From your knowledge of it,
Speaker 3: does it indeed talk about trans women?
Speaker 15: No, I don't think the Sex Discrimination Act does talk
Speaker 15: about trans women. What the Sex Discrimination Act does do, though,
Speaker 15: is include gender and gender identity as protected attributes alongside
Speaker 15: biological sex. Now, this has only been the case for
Speaker 15: the last twelve years, since the Gillard government amended the
Speaker 15: Sex Discrimination Act back in twenty thirteen. And again that's
Speaker 15: where we've seen this complete conflation of language, and activists
Speaker 15: have been able to take advantage of that conflation to
Speaker 15: start saying that the Act means things that it was
Speaker 15: never intended to do. The reality is the Sex Discrimination
Speaker 15: Act was designed to ensure that women biological females had
Speaker 15: certain rights and that's a very good thing. But the
Speaker 15: acts since been misinterpreted and amended by the Gillard government
Speaker 15: and completely butchered to the point where it's arguably meaningless
Speaker 15: and I think actually endangers the rights of women and
Speaker 15: girls in Australia.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I just think it's just a raised
Speaker 3: women because if it's removed the definitions of sex, men
Speaker 3: and a woman, then how can you know what a
Speaker 3: woman is in this very country. I mean as a
Speaker 3: woman myself and you. It is exasperating to even have
Speaker 3: this argument week in week out. And I want to
Speaker 3: ask you, Senator, how far behind we are compared to
Speaker 3: the rest of the world. We can't define it. At
Speaker 3: least the UK has moved to define it. America has
Speaker 3: done the same thing, and here in Australia it's not
Speaker 3: even in our laws.
Speaker 15: It's one of my greatest disappointments in my five or
Speaker 15: six years have been at the forefront of this debate
Speaker 15: that Australia hasn't moved alongside other countries, like you say,
Speaker 15: the United Kingdom of the United States, to backtrack on
Speaker 15: some of this ideology that'sroached into this space around sex
Speaker 15: discrimination and women's sex based rights. And I think there
Speaker 15: are many different reasons behind that. One of the reasons is, frankly,
Speaker 15: that most of the media outlets in this country refused
Speaker 15: to give this issue any interest. I mean you look
Speaker 15: at the Victorian prison case that we mentioned earlier that
Speaker 15: had very little media reporting outside Sky News and the
Speaker 15: Australian Masthead and the Herald Son. I don't think it
Speaker 15: was covered on the ABC, perhaps not surprisingly. So we
Speaker 15: really need the media to start sitting up and paying
Speaker 15: attention to this because this issue.
Speaker 3: Is not going away.
Speaker 15: And frankly, I think politicians at all levels of government
Speaker 15: in this country need to be courageous and fearless in
Speaker 15: speaking out about these issues.
Speaker 3: And the thing is that it shouldn't even be a
Speaker 3: controversial issue to begin with. It's just you know, simple biology.
Speaker 3: But look, you're right about the media. I ABC certainly
Speaker 3: weren't interested in the giggle versus tickle appeal a couple
Speaker 3: of months ago either, so that is definitely half the problem.
Speaker 3: Senator Claire Chandler, great to catch up with you, Thanks
Speaker 3: so much for joining me on the show this evening.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me well. Much like Anthony Albenezi, UK's
Speaker 3: PM kir Starmers seems to also be taking credit for
Speaker 3: Donald Trump's Middle East peace plan.
Speaker 2: I want to be really clear about that, and I
Speaker 2: say that from the informed position of the UK having
Speaker 2: played a part behind the scenes in this with the US,
Speaker 2: with the mediators.
Speaker 3: Joining me now from London is Samara Gill a host
Speaker 3: of triggered with Samara Gill. Nice to see you again,
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining me. I'll look just
Speaker 3: like Anthony Albereneasi Kiirs Starmers spent the past two years
Speaker 3: demonizing Israel, then of course recognized Palestine. Now reckons the
Speaker 3: UK played a part in the deal. Have they no
Speaker 3: shame Samara?
Speaker 5: Shame Denika?
Speaker 16: I mean this is like bragging about a win when
Speaker 16: all you did was shout from the sidelines and they
Speaker 16: were mostly yelling for the other team.
Speaker 5: May I remind me of audience.
Speaker 16: I mean literally they are tweedled d and tweedled dumb.
Speaker 16: It's Keir Starmer and it's useless Anthony Albanesi and they
Speaker 16: have done absolutely nothing for this peace deal. I mean
Speaker 16: it's an absolute tragedy because the United Kingdom is the
Speaker 16: country that effectively founded Israel and it's got no part
Speaker 16: in this deal. I mean Starma and Albo have effectively
Speaker 16: rewarded Hamas for their violence on October the seventh by
Speaker 16: recognizing Palestine as a state.
Speaker 5: Mayor remind you that was only just a couple of
Speaker 5: weeks ago.
Speaker 16: I mean, our prime minister over here is really desperate
Speaker 16: to look balanced because his own country and it's part
Speaker 16: his party, is really tearing themselves apart. So he always says,
Speaker 16: you know, it's about peace, all these empty platitudes, but
Speaker 16: we know that he doesn't mean any of them. And
Speaker 16: the truth really is that no one who actually matters
Speaker 16: in this peace deal, such as Trump and Nettana, who
Speaker 16: care what Starma and Anthony Albanesi because they laugh at
Speaker 16: them behind closed doors and they get the work done.
Speaker 5: Trump is the only one to thank for this piece deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right there, TWETL d TWETL dumb, dumb and dummer.
Speaker 3: But they're exactly the same. They had nothing to do
Speaker 3: with it. Nothing, But yep, they've got no shame. Samara,
Speaker 3: goodness mate. Now look let's be do you know no, Well,
Speaker 3: that's it always always. Now look I want to pivot.
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about the royals because this week
Speaker 3: we saw the Duchess of privacy, Meghan Markle. She she
Speaker 3: stepped out at Paris Fashion Week, didn't she wearing that
Speaker 3: a white outfit? And I'm going to say she's copped
Speaker 3: a lot of flak the latest from Megan Kelly. What's
Speaker 3: she said?
Speaker 16: I mean Megan Kelly, the woman she is. She called
Speaker 16: the other Megan out as the ultimate grifter, and grifter
Speaker 16: she certainly is. I mean Meghan Markle is the woman
Speaker 16: who has turned victimhood into a business model.
Speaker 5: I feel like there's.
Speaker 16: Every tear, every stage, SI comes with a trademark and
Speaker 16: Netflix deal, a podcast. This woman is really really not oppressed.
Speaker 16: She's opportunistic and I think that was shown the most
Speaker 16: during her Paris Fashion Week appearance, which was another desperate
Speaker 16: and craven attempt to.
Speaker 5: Grab the limelight.
Speaker 16: While William was getting some good publicity for some of
Speaker 16: the press that he was doing with Apple TV Eugene Levy,
Speaker 16: he was cropping up there and making the monarchy look
Speaker 16: really good. No, no, Meghan rushes off to Paris to
Speaker 16: go and steal that. You could see her trying to
Speaker 16: get any photo she could with any paparazzi that was there.
Speaker 5: You could see her walking openly in crowds.
Speaker 16: Which is just hilarious considering that Harry comes here every
Speaker 16: month or so demanding that the taxpayer pays for his
Speaker 16: security because he claims that him and the children and
Speaker 16: Meghan don't feel safe.
Speaker 5: I mean, other than looking like a toilet roll.
Speaker 16: Meghan Markle is contributing absolutely nothing.
Speaker 3: No, look she's not, and you're right. I mean, I've
Speaker 3: seen the memes of her looking like a toilet roll.
Speaker 3: I just thought I don't know what she was thinking.
Speaker 3: To be honest, Samara, Now look we're almost out of time,
Speaker 3: but I want to ask you King Charles. He's going
Speaker 3: to be in a new TV documentary about the environment.
Speaker 16: I mean, look, you know I'm a monarchist, but I
Speaker 16: mean this is really peak eco royalism. I don't I mean,
Speaker 16: I don't doubt Charles's sincerity, but let's be honest, it's
Speaker 16: very easy to lecture people about living simply when you've
Speaker 16: got four estates and you've got a valet to sort
Speaker 16: of polish your walking stick. That's the life that Charles
Speaker 16: is living. He does want to inspire a sense of determination,
Speaker 16: But I just wish the Royals would stop sticking their
Speaker 16: fingers in these climate sort of catastrophe talks because they
Speaker 16: have no part in it.
Speaker 5: They are one of the biggest polluters in the world.
Speaker 16: If you think about a family that has more sort
Speaker 16: of properties private jets estates it doesn't end with them,
Speaker 16: so no, I don't want to hear it when I'm
Speaker 16: forced to use my paper straw and Charles is whizzing
Speaker 16: around in his private jet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that the Royal should just stick to
Speaker 3: being royals, stop, you know, putting their finger to every
Speaker 3: single issue out there. Samara girl, nice to see you again.
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for joining me on the show. Really
Speaker 3: appreciate it. We're coming up after the break the winners
Speaker 3: and losers of the week, including a racing legend and
Speaker 3: a Trump hating comedian lands down Under. That's next. It
Speaker 3: is that time of the week where we sought the
Speaker 3: winners from the losers, and helping me to do that
Speaker 3: is my wonderful co host for Dedekra James McPherson. James,
Speaker 3: I'm so excited to have you on my show for once.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 1: I'm so honored to be on your show, Nika. Let's
Speaker 1: get into it. I'm excited about this segment.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get into it. So your winner this week.
Speaker 3: There's a big weekend of course of racing ahead at Bathist.
Speaker 3: So you've gone with racing legend Alan Moffatt.
Speaker 17: Yeah, now I've got to explain Allan Moffatt is currently
Speaker 17: going through dementia, so he's not in a good way.
Speaker 1: But remember he was a racing legend.
Speaker 17: He won Bathist four times, he won the Australian Touring
Speaker 17: Car Championship four times.
Speaker 1: He's a great of motor racing.
Speaker 17: Sadly he can't remember any of his Bathist victories. In fact,
Speaker 17: dementia has robbed him even of the memory that he
Speaker 17: used to be a.
Speaker 1: Racing car driver.
Speaker 17: But you know what, he'll always be a winner to us,
Speaker 17: and though he doesn't remember how great he was, I
Speaker 17: think Australians will always remember him as an absolute legend
Speaker 17: of the sport, and so I think he's an appropriate winner,
Speaker 17: going through a tough time, but still a champion and
Speaker 17: always will be.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 3: I absolutely agree with you, and I'm sure many who
Speaker 3: are going to Bathist would think the exact same. Now, look,
Speaker 3: I had to give my winner this week to a
Speaker 3: UK Big Brother contestant. Her name is Caroline Monks. She's
Speaker 3: a music executive, but James this week she's been demonized
Speaker 3: because of her factually correct comment.
Speaker 1: Her crime.
Speaker 3: Would you believe she told a biological female housemate who
Speaker 3: identifies as a man that they don't have a penis. Now.
Speaker 3: She was then issued with a formal warning over her
Speaker 3: offensive and unacceptable comment. She profousely apologized because she was
Speaker 3: basically forced to back down, But now there's a petition
Speaker 3: calling for her to be expelled from the house. On
Speaker 3: ITV whose Big Brother Late in Live, the host claims
Speaker 3: she could be best friends with Nigel Farage. Now, James,
Speaker 3: of course, people have the right so their own choices
Speaker 3: in life, and you should be free to do whatever
Speaker 3: you want. But the thing is, the UK made a
Speaker 3: ruling that women don't have penises earlier this year.
Speaker 17: Yeah, so why would Channel four, a public broadcaster, be
Speaker 17: propagating gender fluidity nonsense when the UK is certainly going
Speaker 17: the other way?
Speaker 1: Taxpayers are paying for this rubbish.
Speaker 17: But we've got to remember Big Brother deliberately put a
Speaker 17: transgender person on the program with a woman in her fifties,
Speaker 17: knowing that there would be a cultural clash. They would
Speaker 17: get publicity, there'd be controversy. Big Brother don't care about
Speaker 17: trans rights or the feelings of trans people. They wanted
Speaker 17: controversy for ratings. They got it, Yeah, they got it.
Speaker 3: And now she's been completely demonized, apparently best friends with
Speaker 3: Nigel Farage. Would you believe that I would take that
Speaker 3: as a compliment, to be quite frank, if someone ever
Speaker 3: said that to me.
Speaker 17: Well, best friends with Nigel for and half of the
Speaker 17: UK exactly.
Speaker 3: Who want him to be the prime minister? Exactly? Now
Speaker 3: your loser of the week is the joyless joy Read.
Speaker 3: Let's have a look at her late to smeltdown.
Speaker 1: I can't stand Dvan.
Speaker 3: Let's just be clear, if never there's nothing he could do.
Speaker 2: He could literally like rescue my cat out of a
Speaker 2: burning building, and I would still hate Gdi Vans.
Speaker 3: God, can she just get a grip seriously, James, Well.
Speaker 17: First thing, Danika, I always thought she would be a
Speaker 17: cat lady. If anyone would be a cat lady, it
Speaker 17: would be joy Read. But the reason she's my loser
Speaker 17: of the week is I'm sick of people who can't
Speaker 17: disagree but be nice about it. You know, it used
Speaker 17: to be that we hated bad ideas, but we were
Speaker 17: always respectful towards people. These days we have to be
Speaker 17: respectful towards every crazy idea. But it's fine to hate people,
Speaker 17: and I think we've got.
Speaker 1: It around the wrong way. Let's disagree ab.
Speaker 17: Bad ideas, but still be respectful towards people.
Speaker 3: Well, that brings me to my loser, James, speaking of
Speaker 3: hateful people. Rosie o'donald. She's here at Australia. Actually she's
Speaker 3: in Sydney and she's already talking about her favorite topic,
Speaker 3: Donald Trump. But look, the trip hasn't gone so well.
Speaker 3: Have a listen.
Speaker 18: Had some wonderful Thai food with the producer of this
Speaker 18: show that I'm doing, Liza, and she said to me,
Speaker 18: you don't like spices, so we'll get it no spice.
Speaker 18: And she ordered the salad and I took a bite
Speaker 18: and I thought my mouth was on fire.
Speaker 3: It was so spicy.
Speaker 18: I said, you must have ordered this wrong, because she
Speaker 18: ordered in Thai language, the Thai, Thailand's language.
Speaker 3: The Thailand language. Jameson what is she talking about? Seriously?
Speaker 17: Is she supposed to be a comedian. When does the
Speaker 17: funny part kick in? She has become famous for talking
Speaker 17: about Donald Trump. If it wasn't for Donald Trump, she
Speaker 17: wouldn't have a career these days.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. Why is she in Australia.
Speaker 3: Well, she's she's doing a two. I'm surprised you haven't
Speaker 3: booked tickets. I thought that that would have been on
Speaker 3: your priority list for the year, to see Rosie O'Donnell
Speaker 3: in Sydney.
Speaker 1: I was waiting for you to invite me. Deneka, yeah
Speaker 1: for next time.
Speaker 3: I've invited you on my show. Maybe next time. James,
Speaker 3: thanks for joining me. I'll see you on Sunday night
Speaker 3: at seven o'clock for Deneka and James. Good to catch up.
Speaker 3: Steve Price is next. Good night,