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<v Speaker 1>straight into our very latest Outsiders news. So will you bomb?

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<v Speaker 1>Will you not bomb? Rita James? What's going on? I

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<v Speaker 1>just wish they'd get on with it. Drop the bomb,

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<v Speaker 1>finish the Iranian nuclear in enterprise, put it to bed,

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<v Speaker 1>finished and done. Hopefully the regime will change and we

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<v Speaker 1>can all get on with our lives without the Iranian

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<v Speaker 1>theocratic regime. That's my take.

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<v Speaker 2>Rita, well, that's a little bit hysterical. These things take time.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Donald Trump has actually handled this in a

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<v Speaker 2>masterful way. Thus far. He's given the Iranians ample opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to come to the negotiating table and agree to essentially

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<v Speaker 2>dismantle their nuclear program and any ambitions they have of

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<v Speaker 2>having a bomb, which they claim they don't. But they've

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<v Speaker 2>had five meetings since April to try to get the

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<v Speaker 2>Iranians to submit to this position. They have thus far failed,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why we are where we are. We can't

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<v Speaker 2>have Iran with nuclear weapons, but we also don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to have a prolonged war, another one in the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 2>and certainly the American people have zero appetite for America

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<v Speaker 2>being involved in another foreign war in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 2>Regardless of the fact that the Iranian problem needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be dealt with, you'll either deal with it now or

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<v Speaker 2>you deal with it once Iran has a nuclear bomb, which.

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<v Speaker 1>The wolves already underway. The only thing that end it

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<v Speaker 1>is dropping the bomb. Prolonged the war by finishing the West.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, there's there's a couple of different things here that

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about happening. Number one, we're talking about will

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump, you know, use B two bombers to drop

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<v Speaker 3>these big, massive bombs into the mountains at fod Oh

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<v Speaker 3>south of k ron in central Iran to end the

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<v Speaker 3>Iranian government's ability to enrich uranium, which is the next

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<v Speaker 3>step to creating that nuclear weapon, which according to some

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<v Speaker 3>reports they are very close to being able to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the one thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But the big question always comes and you know, this

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<v Speaker 3>is why I think Trump has been smart to give

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<v Speaker 3>this two week sort of buffer on this here is

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<v Speaker 3>because you've got to figure out what comes next. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>number one, there's no guarantee that this bombing run works.

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<v Speaker 3>There are things that can go wrong. It's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it is a complicated, complicated mission. I know there have

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<v Speaker 3>been reports in the last several hours that B two

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<v Speaker 3>bombers have been making their way into position on Diego

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<v Speaker 3>Garcia in the Indian Ocean, from where they could undertake

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<v Speaker 3>this sort of mission. But the big question always with

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<v Speaker 3>the Middle East. You know, we've been burned by this

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<v Speaker 3>in the past, and the big question is what comes next. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a real dilemma because the Mullah regime cannot

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<v Speaker 3>be allowed to survive at this point. The stakes are

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<v Speaker 3>too high on the table. If they survived, then they

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<v Speaker 3>are able to say we stood up to Israel, we

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<v Speaker 3>stood up to the United States. We're still standing. I am,

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<v Speaker 3>I am. I'm saying these are two separate things. And

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<v Speaker 3>then the next question is that what happens after that?

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<v Speaker 1>Now? You know.

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<v Speaker 3>On Friday, the Crown Prince of Iran, raised a Palabi,

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<v Speaker 3>said that he might be open to heading a sort

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<v Speaker 3>of a transitional government. But the question is, again, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. Iran is such a black box at the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know where the Iranian people are.

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<v Speaker 1>Good ideas of the Iranian people. We know that if

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<v Speaker 1>they could get rid of deocracy, they would. They haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been at Obama and let down the Iranians back when

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<v Speaker 1>they had their Green Revolution. That's the time when when

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<v Speaker 1>America should have stepped up, they didn't this time round.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right, James, But the point is regime.

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<v Speaker 1>The regime is on its knees. The issue is the

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<v Speaker 1>ability it has, and you don't want that nuclear ability

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<v Speaker 1>to fall into the hands of whatever comes next. But

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<v Speaker 1>you get rid of that. That's the starting point, get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of get rid of it.

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<v Speaker 3>By giving them two weeks, there is now the chance

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<v Speaker 3>that the increased pressure from Israel collapses the regime on

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<v Speaker 3>its own. The Ayatola has apparently already picked three potential

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<v Speaker 3>new successors. He knows that he is next on the

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<v Speaker 3>hit list. So this regime could collapse on its own

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<v Speaker 3>without the United States having to get involved. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think that is what Trump is aiming for.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely wants he wants to have minimal US involvement in

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<v Speaker 2>any sort of regime change. And I hasten to add

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<v Speaker 2>here that regime change in the Middle East hasn't gone

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<v Speaker 2>particularly well. Whether we're talking about Iraq, we're talking about Syria, Libya,

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<v Speaker 2>it has been disastrous. What's even happened in Afghanistan, as

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<v Speaker 2>we have seen. Iran is a different equation. It's different

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<v Speaker 2>on just on a number of levels. And that's something

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of Americans and Australians don't understand,

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<v Speaker 2>even a lot of Trump supporters who are very anti

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<v Speaker 2>war isolationists. You might even say Iran is a different

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<v Speaker 2>different entirely to Iraq. We're talking about Persian people instead

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<v Speaker 2>of Arab people. We're talking about Shia Muslims instead of Sunni.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about a country that was very modern, secular

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<v Speaker 2>before the Islamic Revolution, which plunged it into the dark

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<v Speaker 2>ages for the last for forty six years. So it

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<v Speaker 2>is a very different equation. So I don't think we

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<v Speaker 2>should be looking at what's happened in the last decade

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<v Speaker 2>or so in the Middle East and say we don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to see that it happen again. I think regime

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<v Speaker 2>change is necessary in Iran. If you want to stop

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<v Speaker 2>the the well, they have sponsored every single terror entity

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<v Speaker 2>from Hezbolla to her Mass to what's been happening in Yemen.

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<v Speaker 2>They have just been behind so much death and destruction

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<v Speaker 2>and suffering in the Middle East. It is an access

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<v Speaker 2>of evil country. It has become that. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>really want to have lasting peace in the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to have in Iran, that is not

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<v Speaker 2>a threat, not just to Israel but.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually to America. Needs Ragi change. And that's but let

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<v Speaker 1>me ask you, is there an appetite amongst expats irany

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<v Speaker 1>expats for a return of the Shah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there is a lot of nostalgia, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people who remember what life was like back then,

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<v Speaker 2>pre Islamic Revolution, who would love to see that. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that has grown significantly in the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of decades because that was the Iran they were proud of.

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<v Speaker 2>That was an Iran that was, you know, a country

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<v Speaker 2>where women had rights, where the lifestyle, the freedoms were

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<v Speaker 2>just so dramatically different to what it's been James.

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<v Speaker 1>You see the footage of the girls, schoolgirls tearing off

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<v Speaker 1>their hea jobs, very brave girls. It's the women who

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to have been the really brave and powerful Iranians

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<v Speaker 1>over the last a few years, wearing their hair being

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<v Speaker 1>tortured all sorts of defying the theocracy.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the thing that always gets me wrong. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's the thing that always gets me about this here

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<v Speaker 3>subject is, you know, the left here in Australia, left

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<v Speaker 3>in America loves to bag on about you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>people on the right here trying to impose some sort

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<v Speaker 3>of hands head means tale theocracy, right and like you

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<v Speaker 3>go over to i Ran, you go to places like that,

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<v Speaker 3>they have actually imposed the absolutely worst sort of anti woman,

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<v Speaker 3>massagist regime. And yet you know, you see all the

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<v Speaker 3>lefty groups out there right now saying, hey, hands off

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<v Speaker 3>i Ran. I Ran has a right to fight back.

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<v Speaker 3>You stopped that nasty Israel, You stop that. Donald trumple exactly, amlu.

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<v Speaker 2>Penny Wong, Anthony Alberanzi, we are being increasingly isolated with

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<v Speaker 2>the position we have taken. We are we have a

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<v Speaker 2>very fractured relationship right now with our biggest ally, the US.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Alberzi can't get a meeting with the president. The

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<v Speaker 2>president is doing trade tariff deals with the UK and China.

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<v Speaker 2>He's meeting world leaders, but not our prime minister. And

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<v Speaker 2>this was a massive misstep on his part. Anthony Alberanesi

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<v Speaker 2>chose not to meet j Events, the US Vice President.

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<v Speaker 5>This is madness.

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<v Speaker 1>We are let down. The Albanzi government with Wong and

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<v Speaker 1>Miles are a complete and utter joke. They have led

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<v Speaker 1>Australia down. We used to be a significant power in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. We are a laughing stock thanks to these clowns. Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has no time for alban Easy. He's got that

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<v Speaker 1>idiot Rudd in there as our ambassador. We are shamed.

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<v Speaker 1>Australians who used to be so close to America have

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<v Speaker 1>been completely let down by these buffoons. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>they are. Reacher is right. James Albanzey could have met

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<v Speaker 1>jd Vance, who's most likely the next president anyway, could

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<v Speaker 1>have started that relationship, tried to build a relationships and

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<v Speaker 1>completely blew it.

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<v Speaker 3>And so yeah, they had an opportunity to meet in

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<v Speaker 3>Rome at the funeral of Pope Francis that both of

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<v Speaker 3>them attended. Prime Minister Anthony Albanizi apparently said no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to bother pushing for that. This comes on the

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<v Speaker 1>Hills of It's worse than that. He said, I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>Prime minister, why would I meet the Vice president? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>give me right, But here's a humorous arrogance of these idiots.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just humanus and arrogance. You're missing the more

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<v Speaker 3>sinister thing here. You're missing the more sinister thing, which

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<v Speaker 3>is that Anthony Albanisi is quietly, by degrees, moving us

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<v Speaker 3>away from the American Alliance and trying to put us

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<v Speaker 3>into this kind of middle ground where we don't take

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<v Speaker 3>sides with either China or the United States. Now, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>this is an incredibly dangerous thing to do, because that

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<v Speaker 3>means that we're going to eventually, if this keeps up,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, potentially lose some of the security umbrella under

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<v Speaker 3>which we have been relying for decades. It's a tremendous

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<v Speaker 3>insult to the United States. But beyond that, it's also

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<v Speaker 3>playing up to the worst elements of lefty anti Americanism

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<v Speaker 3>in the Australian psyche that have been you know, given

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<v Speaker 3>a fulcrum to wedge off of through Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 3>some of his actions that you get whipped up by

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<v Speaker 3>the media here. It's very dangerous game. He's trying to

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<v Speaker 3>use some anti Trump sentiment on the left to readjust

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<v Speaker 3>the entire position of Australia and our foreign and security

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<v Speaker 3>in defense policy away from the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>You note that when.

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<v Speaker 3>He's all through the campaign he talks about, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't want the divisiveness of American politics.

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<v Speaker 1>He never talks about, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, the divisiveness of Chinese Commonist Party politics and the

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<v Speaker 3>influence that they have on.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a dictatorship.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a dictatorship, and that's support you.

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<v Speaker 2>If you oppose it, you end up in ja or

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<v Speaker 2>possibly dead. We are not only being isolated, this is

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<v Speaker 2>at a time when China's becoming increasingly aggressive in our region.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know how we expect the US to

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<v Speaker 2>come to our defense when we snub the Vice president,

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<v Speaker 2>when the Defense Secretary, Pete Hegzet says, boost your defense

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<v Speaker 2>spending in line with our other allies, and we say no,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll decide how we spend our money. And it is

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<v Speaker 2>just I don't know. It just seems to be a

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<v Speaker 2>very foolish position to get ourselves in where we are

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<v Speaker 2>reliant on the US for our defense, and yet we

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<v Speaker 2>are treating them with great disrespect and the American people

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<v Speaker 2>again are sick of being the world's policemen. They are

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<v Speaker 2>sick of their taxes financing the defense of other countries.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what we are expecting. We are saying, we're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to boost our defense spending in line with.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just come back to something we were saying, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was that, you know, labor, Albanese's Labor Party is

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<v Speaker 1>behaving in the classic kind of left field. Mark Kearney

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<v Speaker 1>in Canada, who's every bit of left us out as Albanese,

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<v Speaker 1>Keir Starmer in Britain. They are still hardcore lefties, but

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<v Speaker 1>they've managed to build a relationship with Trump. And when Albanesi,

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<v Speaker 1>Wong and Miles are they undergraduates from Sydney and Adelaide

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<v Speaker 1>University who've never grown out of that position, can't get

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<v Speaker 1>out of that mindset, don't belong on the international stage,

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<v Speaker 1>had nothing of quality or caliber to take to the

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<v Speaker 1>international stage. And we are the poorer forests.

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<v Speaker 3>And Kire Starbough for all of his many, many, many things,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but he also managed to achieve, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the first and best trade deals with the

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<v Speaker 3>Trump administration or their new tariff regime. You know, he

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<v Speaker 3>did this, I don't know why our prime mister will

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<v Speaker 3>actually have my suspicions about why our prime minister doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It goes back to he is using this phrase Australian

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<v Speaker 3>values and want everybody out there to whatever. He uses

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<v Speaker 3>this phrase Australian values to prick up your ears, because

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<v Speaker 3>what he's really talking about is a very particular undergraduate socialist,

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<v Speaker 3>anti American set of values. And he thinks it by

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<v Speaker 3>standing up, you know and saying, oh, well, we're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to deal with the Americans, he thinks that that's

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<v Speaker 3>actually being strong and like on a certain undergraduate level,

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<v Speaker 3>you say, you get what he's trying to do here,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's actually really disrespectful. Ultimately, forget about America. It's

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<v Speaker 3>disrespectful to the Australian people who voted him into office

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<v Speaker 3>and on whom they rely for a proper defense, security

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<v Speaker 3>and economic policy. That's who are the big losers. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's okay to say dis America, oh, you know, whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's really it's really hurting Australians at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the day. And that's what everybody who's commenting and saying,

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<v Speaker 3>oh great, good work elbows, stick up to the Americas.

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<v Speaker 3>We're losing out here, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Then now Albanez is the beneficiary of some truly putred

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<v Speaker 2>Australian media reporting on US politics, I mean, and he

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<v Speaker 2>has seizing on that because almost uniformly, almost with the

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<v Speaker 2>exception of a couple of programs on this station, the

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<v Speaker 2>coverage of US politics, the coverage of anything Trump related,

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<v Speaker 2>is so demented, so out of touch with reality, that

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<v Speaker 2>he has got this opportunity right now to say, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm anti Trump, I'm tough this, and he's seizing that

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<v Speaker 2>it's easy politics. This may not be good for the

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<v Speaker 2>country long term.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be absolutely who paved the way, the Liberal

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<v Speaker 1>Party of last election, who disints themselves from Trump, who

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<v Speaker 1>walked away, pretended they didn't know who Trump was or

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to have anything to do with him. I

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<v Speaker 1>said at the time, the smartest thing that the Liberals

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<v Speaker 1>could have done when Donald Trump was elected and it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like he would be president and then was elected,

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<v Speaker 1>the Peter Dutton should have been on the first plane

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<v Speaker 1>over to sit there and map out of strategy for

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<v Speaker 1>working well with America, which is obviously what Australia needs.

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<v Speaker 1>To do. But we had a joke of an election

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<v Speaker 1>full of lies. One of the biggest lives was about Medicare.

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<v Speaker 1>We now learned that one million Australians wait for this.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to all remember during the election campaign. Every

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes there's Albanesian Wong and whoever else standing there

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<v Speaker 1>waving their little green Medicare card around. We now learned

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<v Speaker 1>that one million Australians are missing out on specialist doctor

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<v Speaker 1>appointments because the costs are so high. A new report

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<v Speaker 1>by the Grant Institute reveals that one million Australians are

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<v Speaker 1>delaying or skipping specialist doctor appointments due to the high cost,

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<v Speaker 1>with one in ten paying nearly six hundred dollars annually.

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<v Speaker 1>Specialist fees have skyrocketed. This was what we were promised,

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<v Speaker 1>this one little card here it is yet all lies.

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<v Speaker 1>You were deceived, You were lied to, and the Liberal

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<v Speaker 1>Party did not know how to stand up to those lies.

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<v Speaker 1>What a disgrace.

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<v Speaker 2>Reata absolutely and this is a Gratton Institute report. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a leftist entities, This is an entity that wants

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<v Speaker 2>to in any way damage the alban Easy government. But

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<v Speaker 2>the reality is the reality in this case, and the Liberals.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only were they feckless, spineless, didn't have the courage

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<v Speaker 2>to really articulate their policies and positions and have a

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<v Speaker 2>proper debate at the last election, they was also completely

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<v Speaker 2>hopeless in tackling this misinformation that the Labor Party had

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<v Speaker 2>about their attitude to Medicare, what they were going to

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<v Speaker 2>do to the program.

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<v Speaker 1>And here we are.

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<v Speaker 2>We had so many people out there who thought the

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<v Speaker 2>Libs were going to slash Medicare spending and have people

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<v Speaker 2>say that out of pocket expenses saw when that's actually

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<v Speaker 2>happening right now and has been happening under the Albanese government.

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<v Speaker 2>And to have in a first world country people avoiding

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<v Speaker 2>medical appointments because that can't afford the cost, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>shameful thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I you know, it's interesting because during the whole

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<v Speaker 3>election campaign, you know, Alban Eazy basically made a fetish

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<v Speaker 3>of Medicare. He made a fetish of our of our

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<v Speaker 3>entire medical system, and of this idea that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have to pay anything. And he was basically

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<v Speaker 3>taking a leaf out of the Labor playbook in the UK,

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<v Speaker 3>trying to turn the you know, our healthcare system like

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<v Speaker 3>the NHS there into this kind of like totemic thing.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what it means to be Australian. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>a fair go. It's not you know, liberty is not this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not that it's free medical care, which is sort

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<v Speaker 3>of a funny sort of thing because of course it

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<v Speaker 3>means you know, first of all, you're making a claim

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<v Speaker 3>on your fellow Australians every time you go to the doctor.

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<v Speaker 3>But also so you know, if you look at the

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<v Speaker 3>DHS and how that worked out, well, the NHS, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a disaster. They've actually taken the precisely lesson from all

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<v Speaker 3>of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Australians are the poorer for it. We're losing out on energy,

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<v Speaker 1>we're losing out on our economy, we're losing out our

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<v Speaker 1>health system is collapsing. But there's always rita. We've always

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<v Speaker 1>at least we do have one politician who rises above

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<v Speaker 1>the rest sounds head and shoulders above hers a degree

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<v Speaker 1>of sophistication, eruditeness and political savviness that sees here she

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<v Speaker 1>was outside Buckingham Palace. Great Representative of Australia, Senator Lydia

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<v Speaker 1>Thorpe was standing outside Buckingham Palace this week and she

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<v Speaker 1>had some messages for the Prince. She had a middle

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<v Speaker 1>finger raised, sorry to the King. She had Oh there's

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<v Speaker 1>the Australian flag. Yeah, that is our Australian flag. Now

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<v Speaker 1>for the Labour Party to believe. And there she was

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<v Speaker 1>performing yet again. I think she's there to pay her

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledgments and respects to the traditional owner of Buckingham Palace, which,

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<v Speaker 1>of course so the Druids and the Celts. The Celts

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a Sacksburg cash.

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<v Speaker 2>Stayed for the traditional owners. There is very troubling. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, the Labor Party is about fifteen years

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<v Speaker 2>behind Lydia Thorpe.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not fall out. I know they're heading down the

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<v Speaker 1>same path.

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<v Speaker 2>The moder left is increasingly becoming more radical, more feral.

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<v Speaker 2>So she is a leader. Really, she is just a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit ahead of her time, and a decade or

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<v Speaker 2>two she could be leading the Labor Party exactly just.

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<v Speaker 1>Before a time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I just wonder if you she's gone any sort

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<v Speaker 3>of London adult establishments and you know, got bitch many

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<v Speaker 3>of those, but the but no, it's also funny too,

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<v Speaker 3>because of course, you know this is as you were

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<v Speaker 3>saying before Rowan, you know she's part British herself, so

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<v Speaker 3>she's actually disrespecting the indigenous heritage of her ancestors there.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're talking about how utterly hopeless the Liberal Party

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<v Speaker 2>have been federally, But can we please just take a

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<v Speaker 2>minute and marvel at the Victorian The skill with.

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<v Speaker 1>Which John Pursuito got is one and a half million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>All those Liberal voters out there, all those Liberal Party

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<v Speaker 1>supporters who must be shaking their heads with disbelief and

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<v Speaker 1>putting their money away, who won't be contributing to the

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<v Speaker 1>Liberal Party in future because of the way you behave

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<v Speaker 1>giving money to John Pursuitter, who demonized More Redeeming, demonized

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, all women, because More Redeeming was simply standing

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<v Speaker 1>up for the rights of women not to have their

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<v Speaker 1>personal spaces and sporting spaces and schools and other places

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<v Speaker 1>invaded by men pretending to be women. John Pursuito defamed her,

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<v Speaker 1>got penalized the correct way through the legal system, and

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<v Speaker 1>now the Liberal Party are coming out and giving one

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<v Speaker 1>and a half million dollars to support pursuit It's alone,

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<v Speaker 1>a loan alone.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting because the popular opinion is This is a

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<v Speaker 2>unique loan, the type that never needs to be paid back.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think many people are expecting it to be

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<v Speaker 2>paid back. But the Liberal party is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>about personal responsibility. What happened to that philosophy and what

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<v Speaker 2>happened to that principle.

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<v Speaker 1>Or loyalty, loyalty to your party memory.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a man whose woes are entirely self inflicted,

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<v Speaker 2>and to be bailing him out right now in this

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<v Speaker 2>fashion is just absolutely appalling. They weren't going to be

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<v Speaker 2>paying more a deemings at legal fees if she lost

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<v Speaker 2>this case, if she was out of pocket a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>No, this he.

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<v Speaker 2>Has caused so much destruction within the Victorian Liberals, he

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<v Speaker 2>has caused so much harm, continues to do so, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's been rewarded with it with a one and a

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<v Speaker 2>half million dollar loan.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet, I mean, this is this is where there

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<v Speaker 3>is such an opening for a proper conservative party in

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<v Speaker 3>this country. Here, I mean, this is the swampiest of

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<v Speaker 3>swamp behaviors here, all the insiders getting together, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>patting each other on the back.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a little Barry Krocker there you know, here's

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of money. Take care of that for you.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, come back. You don't have to be bankrupt.

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<v Speaker 3>You can stay at Parliament. We don't have to have

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<v Speaker 3>a bi election because god forbid. You know, we have

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<v Speaker 3>a by election, boy, that could really tip the balance

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<v Speaker 3>of power in Victoria if we lost that.

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<v Speaker 1>Until though, until though.

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<v Speaker 3>The Libs understand right away you were saying about what

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<v Speaker 3>they believe in. I don't know what the Liberals believe in.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you like I said, a right person.

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<v Speaker 3>I talked to so many people, not just in Victoria,

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<v Speaker 3>but before this last election who said the Liberals and

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<v Speaker 3>they say, I voted for Liberals every election since it's eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>They say, you know, they didn't give me one single

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<v Speaker 3>reason to vote for it. And then you see all

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<v Speaker 3>the party elders in Victoria, you know, standing up for saying, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, John just had a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>mistake there. We're going to stick up for him there

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<v Speaker 3>because somebody who comes in, as you know, saying something

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<v Speaker 3>actually the people believe but it's too contentious for you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the swamp to touch, you know, around gender and things

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<v Speaker 3>like that. Well, you know, we see which way they

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<v Speaker 3>fall the whole, the whole moral kind of constituency of

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<v Speaker 3>their party has fallen.

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<v Speaker 2>Apon it that have got no moral compass. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>problem in this case, it was. It's a ninety ten

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<v Speaker 2>issue at worse than eighteen twenty eighty percent of the

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<v Speaker 2>population is with more a deeming and you we've got

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<v Speaker 2>Labor liberal and the Greens the people we can vote for,

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<v Speaker 2>or sitting with the activist class. I mean it is mad.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. And let me just say, DZA that that

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<v Speaker 1>one and a half million dollars could have been much spent,

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<v Speaker 1>better spent maybe getting people like Daniel Wilde into Parliament

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<v Speaker 1>instead of wasting it on John PURSUITO. That's where you

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<v Speaker 1>could have spent your money during the election, getting people

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<v Speaker 1>elected anyway. That's why people give you money. After the break,

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<v Speaker 1>Rita's Reality Check, Richard Kemp joins his live from TELLINGVIV

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<v Speaker 1>lots more plus emissions impossible. And I think.

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<v Speaker 2>You're watching Outsiders with your hosts Orowan Supreme Leader Dean

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<v Speaker 2>James Ayatola Morrow.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm Rita Panies.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm used to call me the Peri and Princess goes folks.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where I grew up Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in Tehran, where I was forced to

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<v Speaker 2>line up with school and chant death to America over

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<v Speaker 2>and over again, chanting for the destruction of the country

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<v Speaker 2>of my birth that was never going to happen. I

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<v Speaker 2>used to have silently mouthed the words, but never actually

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<v Speaker 2>say it. That was my little act of resistance. In

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<v Speaker 2>primary school in Iran, I was forced to wear a

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<v Speaker 2>dehumanizing hijab just to be allowed to attend school. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a country where family members and family friends were

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<v Speaker 2>targeted by the Islamist regime, arrested, beaten, and yes, even

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<v Speaker 2>some were killed. We're having a picture of the Shah

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<v Speaker 2>was tantamount to a death sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in a country that went from being

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<v Speaker 2>relatively modern, free and secular to being an Islamist hellhole.

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<v Speaker 2>After the Islamic Revolution, women were stripped of their rights

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<v Speaker 2>and they remained to this day second class citizens. Women

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<v Speaker 2>can be arrested, beaten, some of em been killed for

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<v Speaker 2>just showing their hair. So you can understand why this

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<v Speaker 2>week I was fascinated to learn that no women in Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't have it so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, folks in America, if they happen to be black or.

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<v Speaker 1>Gay, have it far worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's what you'd think if you were watching the

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<v Speaker 2>spectacularly stupid ravings of Whoopy Goldberg on the view.

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<v Speaker 1>The Iranians literally throw gay people off of buildings.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't have here to be sic human, Listen here, let's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not let's not do that.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's not do that, because if we start with that,

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<v Speaker 6>we have we have been known in this country to

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<v Speaker 6>tie gay folks to the.

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<v Speaker 1>People. So it's not even the same. I couldn't. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not what you mean to say. It is the same.

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:57.439
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Whoopy thinks it's the same. She thinks America and

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Iran are the same, the human rights abuses are the same.

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 2>The fact that more than ninety million people are oppressed

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<v Speaker 2>in Iran and women doubly so systematically subjugated by brutal regime,

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:13.439
<v Speaker 2>she thinks that's the same as America. That is the

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 2>modern left, folks, dumb, dishonest, and dangerously delusional.

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 6>And that's why I am saying that it is the same.

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<v Speaker 4>Murdering someone for their difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Is not good. Whoever does it's not good. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I.

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<v Speaker 6>Said you weren't saying what you what I heard was not.

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<v Speaker 1>What you meant.

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's very different look in the Night Season

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<v Speaker 7>twenty twenty five than it is to live in a.

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<v Speaker 2>World you're black, not for everybody, not if you're black,

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 2>not if you're black. Really, so, crime happening in America,

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 2>black person killing another black person, for example, for which

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 2>the perpetrator will be punished, is the same in Whoopies

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 2>warped wind as the state killing you because you're a minority,

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 2>because you're gay or an infidel for example. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>be clear, the Iranian regime will hang you from Ukraine

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 2>in the public square for crimes like blasphemy, witchcraft, homosexuality,

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 2>and of course if you dare show any descent if

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 2>you challenge the brutal regime, woopethinks that's pretty much how

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 2>black folks are treated in America.

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<v Speaker 1>Your absolute disgrace.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a human being, whoopee to show absolutely no regard

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<v Speaker 2>for the Uranian women who risk their lives to challenge

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<v Speaker 2>the Islamist government to minimize their struggle, and compare it

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<v Speaker 2>to your fever dreams about oppression in America in twenty

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 2>twenty five. You know it's been sickening to witness the

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<v Speaker 2>backflips from so many leftist feminists who just three years

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<v Speaker 2>ago said they stood with the women of Iran as

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 2>they fought against the countries oppressive hjabblaws. The woman life

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 2>freedom Uprising has long been forgotten, it seems, by the left,

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 2>who would rather rail against Trump and Israel than be

0:30:11.280 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 2>honest about the threat and nuclear Iran poses to the

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 2>region and to the world. But let's get back to whoopee,

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 2>whose pathetic tantrum was cheered on by the views equally

0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 2>pathetic and dim witted audience.

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<v Speaker 7>But I think it's important we remember there are places

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 7>much darker than this country and people.

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<v Speaker 6>Not everybody feels that way. Not everybody feels that way. Listen,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry. You know when you think about the fact

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 6>that we were we got the vote in nineteen sixty.

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<v Speaker 7>Five, Okay, they don't have free and fair elections in Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not even the same universe.

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<v Speaker 4>They can't go out of their house.

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<v Speaker 8>You know what.

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<v Speaker 6>There's no way I can make you understand.

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<v Speaker 7>It's it's like try to reverse roles with a black

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:01.239
<v Speaker 7>person in this kind let's say, because I think that's

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<v Speaker 7>what you're talking about. Yes, just try to understand from

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 7>their point of view. From that point of view, this

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 7>country does not do them well, does not.

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<v Speaker 2>Go Yes, thanks joy, Black folks America have it as

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<v Speaker 2>bad as the people in Iran. Thanks for that, joy, Beija,

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 2>you simpleton clown. Did you know people in Iran can

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<v Speaker 2>be arrested, tortured, and executed for peacefully protesting against the government.

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Women taking off their hijab to protest the hijab laws

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 2>can be arrested, tortured, even killed. You can be sentenced

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 2>to death for sodomy, homosexuality, adultery, political dissidence, blasphemy, for

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 2>repeated consumption of alcohol, pornography, for crimes that fall under

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 2>waging war against God, and for spreading corruption on Earth.

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Amnesty International reports that Iran in twenty twenty four was

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<v Speaker 2>responsible for sixty four percent of all recorded executions worldwide.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one thing to be anti war, but to carry

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<v Speaker 2>water for a backward and brutal Islamist government is a

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<v Speaker 2>new low for the modern left, and it follows a

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 2>trend we've seen since October seven, when the progressive act

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 2>of as class decided it was fashionable to be virulently

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<v Speaker 2>anti Semitic. President Donald Trump was elected on an America

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<v Speaker 2>First platform, and there exists a small but loud and

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 2>influential band of his supporters who are dead set against

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<v Speaker 2>any US involvement in the Israel Iran conflict. They argue

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<v Speaker 2>America's interests are not served by standing with Israel to

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<v Speaker 2>destroy Iran's nuclear program, let alone becoming an active participant

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:40.719
<v Speaker 2>in the war. But that is frankly a shortsighted and

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 2>naive position. America will have to deal with the Iranian

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<v Speaker 2>problem at some point, and it's in the country's best

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<v Speaker 2>interest to do it before Iran acquires nuclear weapons. That

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<v Speaker 2>is a point Donald Trump has made for a decade.

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<v Speaker 2>He has been entirely consistent in arguing that Iran cannot

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<v Speaker 2>be allowed to choir would develop nuclear weapons. And Trump

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 2>understands perfectly well that it will not just be Israel

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<v Speaker 2>that would be in the firing line if that were

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<v Speaker 2>to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Rita, that was fantastic and your family's bravery and seeing

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<v Speaker 1>that photo of you as a little kid, and we've

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 1>also seen amazing photos of your mum back in the

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>day looking like a glamorous model in an nineteen sixties

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 1>American fashion thing that was min skirts and mini skirts,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was the Iran that your family remember, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's hope that's the Iran we all get to see,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly your family and other Expaterranians in the very near future.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining us now live from Tel Aviv is former British

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<v Speaker 1>Commander Richard Kemp. Richard, great to see you as always.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for staying up late there in

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<v Speaker 1>tel Aviv. You're right at the heart of the action,

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<v Speaker 1>as you always are. So a couple of questions. First,

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<v Speaker 1>what's it like in tel Aviv? We hear all these

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of crazy things. At half of two thirds of

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 1>tel Aviv has been destroyed by the Iranians. All this

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff or nonsense. You can fill us in

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>on that, and obviously the big question what's going to

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>happen next in Iran.

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<v Speaker 9>It's very quiet in tel Aviv.

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<v Speaker 10>It's been extremely quiet since the war began to swell

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 10>a week ago. Very few people are on the streets,

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 10>many shops are closed, schools are closed. The idea, of course,

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 10>is for people to stay as close as they can

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<v Speaker 10>to their bomb shelters in the event of a further

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 10>missile attack, and we've had in the last week, we've

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 10>had here in Tel Aviv. I've also been in Jerusalem,

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<v Speaker 10>but we've had several ballistic missile attacks pretty much every

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<v Speaker 10>night and sometimes during the day as well. But there's

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<v Speaker 10>one thing I think that's a strategic benefit to Israel,

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<v Speaker 10>and that's bomb shelters. Pretty much every building and it

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 10>has their own bomb shelters. Every new an apartment block

0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 10>order has to have reinforced rooms built into them.

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<v Speaker 9>They are public shelters.

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<v Speaker 10>And what that's done is to make this war entirely

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 10>tolerable for the people in Israel. So far, Iran has

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<v Speaker 10>fired something like five hundred and fifty ballistic missiles approximately

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 10>at Israel and some total of people killed and that

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<v Speaker 10>has been around twenty five. Now that is terrible. Each

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 10>death is it was terrible, But if you think about it,

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 10>it's nothing like the kind of strategic impact that the

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<v Speaker 10>IOTOL has promised. And so the reality is that the

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 10>IDF and Americans support as well on the ground has

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<v Speaker 10>down something like eighteen ninety percent of all missiles fired.

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 10>Something like a thousand drones I think have been fired

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 10>at Israel from Iran, and only one of them and

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:56.439
<v Speaker 10>that was today actually impacted in Israel. The rest were

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 10>dealt with so that the damage is pretty minimum.

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:01.800
<v Speaker 9>Have been some pretty severe damage to buildings.

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<v Speaker 10>I was in the hospital yesterday in bear Chauv down

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 10>in the South which sustained severe damage from an Iranian

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 10>ballistic missile, which was clearly deliberately targeted. Does all of

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 10>them have been in civilian population centers? So that's the

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 10>reality of life people are. I think people are very

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:23.400
<v Speaker 10>very united and then decided to see this war continue

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:27.760
<v Speaker 10>to its conclusion, whatever conclusion did arise at and Iran.

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<v Speaker 10>I think Israel's shown itself to be extremely strong. Iran

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 10>has shown itself so far anyway to be extremely weak.

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<v Speaker 3>James, Colonel, I want to ask, but then where this

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<v Speaker 3>goes next?

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<v Speaker 1>Here?

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<v Speaker 3>Because the Israelis have been indicating in some of the

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 3>reports that I've seen that they don't want to wait

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:46.280
<v Speaker 3>two weeks for the Iranians to come back to the table,

0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 3>this deadline that Donald Trump has put on them. At

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 3>the same time, it appears from what you're saying and

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 3>all the reports aren't there, that Iran can't continue to

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 3>fight because their ballistic missilarge have been destroyed, their attack

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 3>offensive capability has been downgraded, and Israel just has the

0:37:01.840 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 3>upper head on this.

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Where does this go next?

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 3>Does this wind up with some sort of attack at

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 3>Florida or where the Uranian and Richmond is or does

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:15.320
<v Speaker 3>at some point the Iatola regime begin to crack, crumble,

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:20.879
<v Speaker 3>collapse under the weight of the Israeli assaults on its

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:22.480
<v Speaker 3>ability to make war.

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<v Speaker 9>I think either it's possible, to be honest, the IDF

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 9>have been.

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 10>Severely attacking Iran's ballistic missile capability. They have knocked out

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 10>someone that forty or fifty percent of the rocket launchers,

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 10>and of course Iran has a finite number of rockets anyway,

0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 10>and I'm not sure how many more they've got in

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 10>their armory, but the number of volleys fired at Israel

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 10>is diminishing constantly, So we'll have to see what happens

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:56.839
<v Speaker 10>about that. But I think people say a lot that

0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 10>Iran Israel can't deal with FIDO. So Forardo is ninety

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:05.440
<v Speaker 10>meters below ground, I wouldn't count on that.

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 9>I believe.

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 10>I don't know what weaponry Israel has and what other

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 10>plans they have for Fordo, but I very much doubt

0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 10>the Prime Minister Netsiya, who launched this campaign without plans

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 10>to deal with to achieve his objectives effectively, whether with

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:24.720
<v Speaker 10>or without American assistant. So I think the real virtue

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 10>of America coming in is probably a more decisive attack

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:32.400
<v Speaker 10>on Fordoh, a key in Richmond plant but also to

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:34.399
<v Speaker 10>speed up the end of the war. So I think

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 10>that would be highly beneficial. But if President Trump decides

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 10>not to do so, I don't think that would be

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 10>the end of the game.

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:42.839
<v Speaker 9>And by the way, I'm in no.

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 10>Doubt that Trump and Netna, whose plans are entirely synchronized,

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:50.840
<v Speaker 10>in this before it began, I think the chances of

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:55.400
<v Speaker 10>regime collapse have to be there. There are many opposition

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:58.839
<v Speaker 10>groups inside Iran. I don't know how strong they are.

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 10>I don't know whether any of have the particular capability

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 10>of overthrowing the regime, but certainly now they're seeing the

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:08.760
<v Speaker 10>weakness of this regime, which they've been fearing ever since

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:14.839
<v Speaker 10>nineteen seventy nine. So maybe that they're encouraged to bring

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 10>the regime down. That could happen, And you know, I

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 10>think Israel's military action could actually enable that, and perhaps

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:24.240
<v Speaker 10>even more.

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:25.439
<v Speaker 9>So if the US does join.

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:28.880
<v Speaker 10>And I think seeing the US directly opposed to Iran

0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:34.280
<v Speaker 10>could encourage even more potential uprising within the Iranian people.

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:38.759
<v Speaker 2>The Trump administration has given an opening, though, to the

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:43.839
<v Speaker 2>Iranian regime to perhaps come to the negotiating table and

0:39:44.200 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 2>agree to some of the conditions that they that the

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:51.319
<v Speaker 2>US is demanding. Can you see that as a possibility

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 2>at all? Or is it going to seem incredibly weak

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:59.879
<v Speaker 2>for them to submit to these conditions whilst they're being

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 2>bombed by Israel.

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<v Speaker 9>I think they'll be extremely rking to do that.

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 10>They made it clear in their recent so called negotiations

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 10>with European leaders that they're not going to do that

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:15.279
<v Speaker 10>while Israel's attacking in Israel certainly is not going to

0:40:15.280 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 10>stop attacking, so I suspect that that's probably unlikely, and

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 10>I think it would be pretty catastrophic if there was

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:27.040
<v Speaker 10>some kind of negotiated settlement. I don't think it is

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:30.799
<v Speaker 10>possible to end this threat, not just to Israel, but

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 10>to the Middle East and the world. It's nuclear weapons.

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:35.719
<v Speaker 10>I don't think it's possible to end that in any

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 10>way other than by military force. I think the idea

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:42.960
<v Speaker 10>that the Iranians would dismantle their own nuclear capability is

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:46.239
<v Speaker 10>for the birds, no matter what many other I don't

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 10>think it's going to happen.

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 1>And Richard, what's also been very noticeable is the muted reaction,

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:56.280
<v Speaker 1>from the non reaction from the rest of the Arab world.

0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 1>So we've always, for years and years been told, oh,

0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 1>you can't tag Iran because you know, the whole Arab

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:04.800
<v Speaker 1>street will rise, it'll be the end of you know,

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 1>et cetera, et cetera. And yet thanks to the Abraham Accords,

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 1>thanks to Trump's brilliant you know, moves with Saudi Arabia

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:15.239
<v Speaker 1>and with Egypt getting them all on board, is it

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:18.880
<v Speaker 1>fair to say that the Abraham Alliance now looks like

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 1>being the thing of the future that will be the

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 1>dominant power in Middle East politics or military.

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:27.319
<v Speaker 10>Certainly, I think it is, and I think that that's

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 10>made much much more likely by this campaign by Israel.

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 10>Let's not forget that Iran doesn't just hate the Jewish

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 10>States and America, it also hates the Sunni Arab world,

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 10>probably at least as much, and is seen as a

0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:43.400
<v Speaker 10>big threat to every Arab country in the region.

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:45.279
<v Speaker 9>They want Israel to win this.

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:48.720
<v Speaker 10>They've been cheering Israel on, maybe not publicly, and maybe

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 10>some of their statements have been a bit different to that,

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 10>but certainly they want Israel to defeat Iran, and Israel's

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:59.960
<v Speaker 10>show of strength here I think will certainly encourage country

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.920
<v Speaker 10>like Saudi Arabia in particular, but other Arab countries as

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 10>well to kind of normalize relations with Vere and join

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:08.719
<v Speaker 10>in the Abraham Accords. So I think we're going to

0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 10>see a completely reshaped Middle East once this conflict is finished.

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:16.319
<v Speaker 1>Colonel Richard Kemp, always great to chat to you, and

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:18.279
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming on outsiders as you

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 1>always do. Stay safe there in Tel Aviv, and thank

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.280
<v Speaker 1>you again for staying up so late in your bunker

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 1>there or in your room, but please stay safe and

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:28.919
<v Speaker 1>we'll chat again, saying thank you so much. Conor Richie

0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Kempt there in Tel Aviv. As it's all happening after

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 1>the break. We've got our brand news segment. Emissions impossible

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:44.840
<v Speaker 1>in a tick, Yes, emissions impossible. We are heading. We

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 1>are de industrializing our nation, we are crippling our economy.

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 1>We are making life hard for small businesses. We are

0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 1>making life awful for people who don't have all the

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:58.280
<v Speaker 1>means to warm the houses or air condition the houses,

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 1>or whatever it might be. All in the pursuit of

0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:03.920
<v Speaker 1>net zero emissions, and we have to remind ourselves why

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 1>we are doing this, because the government believes that we

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:13.000
<v Speaker 1>are headed towards a global boiling, global warming catastrophe in

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 1>the future, which can only be solved if little old

0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Australia deindustrializes itself. Well, we were promised a warm winter

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:24.520
<v Speaker 1>and yet, as anyone knows, it's been a freezing cold winter. James,

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:27.759
<v Speaker 1>the Bureau of Meteorology spokesperson said in the weekend in

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 1>June fifteen, minimum temperatures were two degrees below average for

0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:34.880
<v Speaker 1>most of the country and up to ten degrees below

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:40.839
<v Speaker 1>average in large parts of Queensland. It's freezing jams rowan Rita.

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 3>I've got the very disturbing news for you here and

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:46.160
<v Speaker 3>I want everybody at home to be just put down

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:46.760
<v Speaker 3>your drinks.

0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:49.440
<v Speaker 1>It's cold in winter. Okay.

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:53.799
<v Speaker 3>This apparently comes a great shock to the Barford's earthy

0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 3>Bureau of Meteorology and at all of our friends at

0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:58.959
<v Speaker 3>the Fairfax Press of the ABC. Of course it's called

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 3>but the thing here that all of this sort of

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 3>comes down to, you know, oh it's two degrees below average.

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:07.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, it's too whatever that thing is all of

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 3>this warming stuff. The ideology around it is based on

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 3>this idea that somewhere there's a perfect temperature that it

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:18.240
<v Speaker 3>should be every day, and that if somehow the temperature

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 3>that day deviates from that perfect temperature, it's all our

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 3>for doing it.

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:23.959
<v Speaker 1>It's our fault.

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 3>We control the weather, and we need to go and

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:30.239
<v Speaker 3>do different things to change that temperature. Now, the thing is,

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:33.480
<v Speaker 3>of course you talk about the industrializing here, well Rowan,

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 3>The fact is, and the lid you've got a lift

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 3>on the whole sort of global warming movement is that

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 3>this is what economies do.

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 1>This is what countries do.

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:44.719
<v Speaker 3>This with political parties, particularly on the left do when

0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:47.320
<v Speaker 3>they've given up on trying to be productive and invent

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 3>new things and create new things. So what are we

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 3>going to do to create economic activity. Well, we will

0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 3>tear down our existing power system and we will rebuild

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:58.719
<v Speaker 3>a whole new one that's entirely complicated and jerry rigged

0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:01.880
<v Speaker 3>with batteries and solar panels and wind farms and this

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 3>and that hydro and we'll call it that zero And

0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people are going to make money off

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 3>of the process of doing this. But the end result,

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 3>of course, on the actual temperature it's still going to

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:14.800
<v Speaker 3>be cold in winter, it's still going to be hot

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:18.440
<v Speaker 3>in summer. This is not about being more cleaner and

0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:19.880
<v Speaker 3>not polluting the air and the waters.

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 1>All of that's good stuff.

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 3>This is about just creating economic activity for its own

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 3>sac shifting money around.

0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 2>But have a look at the media's role in this.

0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I think we've got some images here of a temperature

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:37.359
<v Speaker 2>in summer in the UK and how it's presented. So

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:41.440
<v Speaker 2>back in nineteen ninety five, it's twenty eight degrees, lovely

0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:42.920
<v Speaker 2>for a summer's day.

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:45.960
<v Speaker 1>But now twenty eight degrees.

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Has got you know, warnings and red and the whole

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:52.400
<v Speaker 2>place is on fire. And so much of what we

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 2>are seeing is only happening because we have such a

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:59.839
<v Speaker 2>complicit and stupid media that is not questioning any of this.

0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:02.840
<v Speaker 2>And going back even just five ten years to some

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 2>of these doomsday predictions that we were told were going

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 2>to happen, and none of them have eventuated, none of

0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 2>them have come close to eventuating, and holding people accountable,

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 2>none of that's happening other than on a couple of

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 2>programs like this. And here we go. Look at Australia.

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:24.399
<v Speaker 2>We should have streets paved in gold. We are so

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:29.879
<v Speaker 2>lucky to be blessed with just so much gas, coal, uranium,

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:34.799
<v Speaker 2>and yet we've got these hugely expensive energy prices. And

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:37.880
<v Speaker 2>like you said, Rowland, we've got Australians who can't afford

0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:40.320
<v Speaker 2>to heat their homes in winter cool them in summer

0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:41.640
<v Speaker 2>because the bills are going.

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:42.240
<v Speaker 4>To be too high.

0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:45.560
<v Speaker 1>And then what you refer to there in Britain, there's

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:48.760
<v Speaker 1>amazing two graphics. In Britain they now call thirty degrees

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 1>a heat wave, or even twenty eight degrees a heat wave.

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:54.880
<v Speaker 1>But this is hilarious. And the UK Telegraph is reporting

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:58.120
<v Speaker 1>a report commissioned by the Department for Energy Security and

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:01.880
<v Speaker 1>net Zero warned that much of the energy grid this

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 1>is in Britain, have a listen and infrastructure we're at

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:11.040
<v Speaker 1>risk from warm weather over twenty seven dectories. Little One

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 1>is said to have the first heat wave of twenty

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:16.239
<v Speaker 1>to twenty five this weekend, with health officials warning of

0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:19.880
<v Speaker 1>a risk to life from temperatures over thirty The report

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:25.160
<v Speaker 1>offers multiple warnings that net zero technology like solar panels

0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:30.400
<v Speaker 1>and evs will melt in the twenty seven degrees. I mean, seriously,

0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 1>these people are.

0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:34.280
<v Speaker 2>Completely and so have jumpers or twenty seven degrees.

0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:36.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, are you kidding me? And let's not.

0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Forget also when we keep talking about catastrophic warming, way

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:43.799
<v Speaker 2>more people, even in a warm climate like Australia, way

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:47.759
<v Speaker 2>more people die from cold than from heat. Yes, that's

0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 2>our reality, undisputed exactly.

0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what else has dyed the Liberal Party.

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:55.439
<v Speaker 1>We heard it this morning Dante and on this show

0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:58.880
<v Speaker 1>with Andrew Pannell being quizzed about will the Liberal Party

0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:03.640
<v Speaker 1>abandon that zero the only sensible forward economic and indeed

0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:07.279
<v Speaker 1>national security approach any sensible party could have have a

0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:11.120
<v Speaker 1>listen to Dantean, do you believe the opposition will abandon

0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:15.240
<v Speaker 1>a net zero target by twenty fifty policy?

0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:19.560
<v Speaker 7>Well, we have a process we're going through at the moment.

0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Ah, here we go. We have a problem this and

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:24.640
<v Speaker 1>and and we've got a carton missions. We've got to

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:26.799
<v Speaker 1>do this, and we've got a role to play in

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the world. I mean, these people, James are technically insane.

0:48:32.600 --> 0:48:35.239
<v Speaker 3>Well, and you know they're forgetting that their role right

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 3>now is the opposition, you know, which is to present

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 3>an alternative way of doing things. And elsewhere that interview

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:43.759
<v Speaker 3>that Dante had had with Andrew Clenell. He was also

0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:47.960
<v Speaker 3>asked about the prospects of Australia hosting this huge climate

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 3>HUHA get together in Brisbane, which of course is opening

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:55.200
<v Speaker 3>us up to a huge debacle, not just because of

0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:57.839
<v Speaker 3>the you know, the conference self, but actually because to

0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:01.280
<v Speaker 3>get the conference, Chris Bowen is very likely to push

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:04.879
<v Speaker 3>for us to have even tighter net zero restrictions, further

0:49:04.880 --> 0:49:09.000
<v Speaker 3>crippling our economy. Did not engage with that question at all.

0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:12.480
<v Speaker 3>This is the issue that they need to be fighting

0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:15.680
<v Speaker 3>on because it is where everything else flows from. The

0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:17.960
<v Speaker 3>two issues actually that they need to be fighting on

0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 3>our A energy, b immigration. Everything else stems from those

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:22.040
<v Speaker 3>two things.

0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:28.799
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. I was also amused by this story that transcrid

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:33.160
<v Speaker 1>CEO Brett Redmond giants. Yeah, Brett Redman warning Australians. Yeah,

0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 1>so say.

0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:36.399
<v Speaker 3>Brett Redman, who speaks a head of AGL Now he's

0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 3>had of transcript and you know he has added his

0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 3>voice here.

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Again.

0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:43.160
<v Speaker 3>This is the thing that we've got to remember about

0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:46.360
<v Speaker 3>labor and this labor government. They have no time or

0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:48.759
<v Speaker 3>no interest in what the private sector has to say

0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:50.680
<v Speaker 3>at all. They don't understand the private sector, They don't

0:49:50.760 --> 0:49:54.239
<v Speaker 3>understand what the private sector needs. Brett Redman does know

0:49:54.280 --> 0:49:56.200
<v Speaker 3>what the private sector needs. He knows that they need

0:49:56.239 --> 0:49:59.040
<v Speaker 3>reliable energy. He has worn Now we've talked in the

0:49:59.080 --> 0:50:03.000
<v Speaker 3>past about you know, hot spells in Australia putting great

0:50:03.000 --> 0:50:05.640
<v Speaker 3>deal pressure on the grid, creating blackouts.

0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:05.600
<v Speaker 1>And things like that.

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:07.360
<v Speaker 3>Well he's saying the same thing could happen when you

0:50:07.400 --> 0:50:10.600
<v Speaker 3>have these cold spells as well, with grid instability and

0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:12.719
<v Speaker 3>so on. He said, well, you know there are now

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:16.600
<v Speaker 3>prospects in Victoria for blackouts, for everybody to be forced

0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:18.760
<v Speaker 3>to take cold showers in the liddle of winter because

0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:22.319
<v Speaker 3>their hot water heaters can't run. So really, well done

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:26.239
<v Speaker 3>to all concerned in the net zero transition. Isn't it fantastic?

0:50:26.280 --> 0:50:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Reader? And isn't it fantastic? El Redta. We have more

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:35.239
<v Speaker 1>failed hydrogen plants these photos from Matt Canavan. Remember Chris

0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Bowhen and Anthony Albanezi were telling us that green hydrogen

0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:40.279
<v Speaker 1>was going to be We were going to be the

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:44.480
<v Speaker 1>great souperpower Australia with its green hydrogen. This thing here

0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:48.000
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing on your screen costs ninety million dollars. You've

0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:50.800
<v Speaker 1>paid for this, You've paid for the ship as Rita

0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:54.319
<v Speaker 1>says ninety million dollars and it's now just a couple

0:50:54.360 --> 0:50:56.320
<v Speaker 1>of jobs left.

0:50:57.360 --> 0:51:02.319
<v Speaker 2>Come onbelieve this is the white in taxpayer funds that

0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:07.839
<v Speaker 2>has gone towards this project is astonishing. So not only

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 2>we're paying more in bills, and businesses are somehaps some

0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:16.240
<v Speaker 2>of closing, some are shifting overseas because the energy costs

0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:20.879
<v Speaker 2>here are just not sustainable. But people are getting rich,

0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:24.680
<v Speaker 2>some very rich people are getting richer thanks to the

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:29.000
<v Speaker 2>taxpayer subsidies that exist. That the market is being so

0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 2>manipulated in this area. If this was a free market thing,

0:51:32.200 --> 0:51:34.600
<v Speaker 2>I would say, okay, let it sort itself out.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not. It isn't interesting central planning.

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<v Speaker 3>It is interesting how many of those people who are

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<v Speaker 3>getting rich off of this have links to the Liberal Party.

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<v Speaker 1>So that might oh, why oh, that does explain certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>After the break Central, the American Experiment, President John Heinderaker,

0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Aaron outsider, is back in a tick well exciting us.

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<v Speaker 1>In the last few minutes, We've just heard from truth

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<v Speaker 1>Social from Donald Trump that America has struck three Iranian

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear sites with American military. James read us What's Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has said?

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump has just posted this to his true social site.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm reading it right now.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, we have completed our very successful attack on

0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:25.400
<v Speaker 3>the three nuclear sites in Iran, including four dohnatans in Esfahan.

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<v Speaker 3>All planes, donald Trump says, are now outside of Iran airspace.

0:52:29.719 --> 0:52:32.440
<v Speaker 3>A full payload of bombs was dropped on the primary

0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:36.040
<v Speaker 3>site four doh All planes are safely on their way home.

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<v Speaker 3>The President says, congratulations to our great American warriors. There

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<v Speaker 3>is not another military in the world that could have

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<v Speaker 3>done this. And then in all caps, the president writes,

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<v Speaker 3>now is the time for peace. Exclamation point, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for your attention to this matter. So Fida, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>is the site Rohodan Rita that was the site of

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<v Speaker 3>all that Uranian enrichment that people were concerned about, that

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<v Speaker 3>this was where they were going to get the weapons

0:53:01.400 --> 0:53:04.400
<v Speaker 3>grade uranium to be able to break out and build

0:53:04.440 --> 0:53:08.000
<v Speaker 3>themselves in atomic bomb. So that's huge news about what

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<v Speaker 3>happened there, and who knows what happens next for the regime.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is what Donald Trump is saying, now is

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<v Speaker 1>the time for peace. So he's actually linking peace through strength,

0:53:18.560 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 1>which of course has been Donald Trump's motto all along.

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<v Speaker 1>We have and that idea is, of course, that you

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<v Speaker 1>do have to use force from time to time. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a pivotal moment in history, and I think

0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:37.520
<v Speaker 1>this is absolutely critical that Donald Trump has come out

0:53:37.560 --> 0:53:41.680
<v Speaker 1>shown that he has prepared to use American might to

0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:46.200
<v Speaker 1>deliver peace to fight evil. And there is no question

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<v Speaker 1>that the Iranian nuclear development, that theocratic regime and its

0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:55.960
<v Speaker 1>designs to use nuclear power against Israel was pure evil.

0:53:56.320 --> 0:53:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump has stepped up, as I always knew he

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<v Speaker 1>would and believed he would, used American force and might

0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 1>to destroy Isfahan, Natans and four to Oh. We don't

0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:08.440
<v Speaker 1>know if he's completely destroyed them, but he's used them.

0:54:08.440 --> 0:54:12.440
<v Speaker 1>He says the mission has been successful. And we presume

0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:17.040
<v Speaker 1>James and that was with these bunker busters. We don't know,

0:54:17.800 --> 0:54:21.320
<v Speaker 1>but we presume that that's what he's referring to. James.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, that's right. We don't know exactly what were

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<v Speaker 3>used yet. We don't know too many details. I'm just

0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:28.480
<v Speaker 3>searching around for some more details on this. But we

0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:30.520
<v Speaker 3>did see, as we've plaged at the beginning of the show,

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<v Speaker 3>over the last twelve hours, b two planes and people

0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:36.360
<v Speaker 3>who were tracking these things noted that there were massive

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<v Speaker 3>convoys of aerial refueling planes all the way on the

0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:43.280
<v Speaker 3>road to Diego, Garcia, because of course these huge bobs

0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:47.680
<v Speaker 3>weigh an awful lot of money, a lot of poundage tonnage. Sorry,

0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:49.719
<v Speaker 3>and they cost a lot of money too, but they

0:54:49.760 --> 0:54:52.000
<v Speaker 3>are but you know, just even taking off with them

0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:55.480
<v Speaker 3>means you've got to refuel pretty quickly. So yeah, so

0:54:55.560 --> 0:54:58.160
<v Speaker 3>a huge, huge mission there straight into the heart of

0:54:58.560 --> 0:55:01.320
<v Speaker 3>around fourdoh is in the center of the country. It

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<v Speaker 3>south of Tehran, deep in those mountains, you know, mountains

0:55:05.600 --> 0:55:07.680
<v Speaker 3>which should be you know, in peaceful times, they should

0:55:07.680 --> 0:55:09.600
<v Speaker 3>be used for ski fields and things like that rather

0:55:09.680 --> 0:55:14.720
<v Speaker 3>than nuclear, nuclear weaponry and things of that nature. So again,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a huge, huge development. The big question, of

0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:22.239
<v Speaker 3>course is you know how much of that relationship with

0:55:22.360 --> 0:55:25.719
<v Speaker 3>Benjamin net Yahoo was behind this. Did net Yahoo say, hey,

0:55:25.760 --> 0:55:28.240
<v Speaker 3>look we've got to go sooner, because of course Trump

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<v Speaker 3>had said we were going to wait two weeks, but

0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:33.480
<v Speaker 3>maybe it was just that the Iranian said, look, we're

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<v Speaker 3>not doing it, so they said, well we'll pull the

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<v Speaker 3>trigger down.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think this has got everyone's got to really

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<v Speaker 1>sit back and realize this is one of the great

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<v Speaker 1>moments in our history. In the history of the West.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what for five decades, the Iranian regime has

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<v Speaker 1>tortured its people, has terrorized the West, has terrorized the

0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:58.080
<v Speaker 1>people of Israel, has threatened world peace. Is an evil

0:55:58.239 --> 0:56:02.040
<v Speaker 1>regime with an evil theocracy at the heart of that regime.

0:56:02.680 --> 0:56:06.520
<v Speaker 1>And finally, an American president has stepped up and done

0:56:07.000 --> 0:56:09.440
<v Speaker 1>what the West did at the end of the Second

0:56:09.440 --> 0:56:15.720
<v Speaker 1>World War, used its military superiority to destroy an evil

0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:19.319
<v Speaker 1>regime and save millions of deaths down We will never know,

0:56:19.880 --> 0:56:24.000
<v Speaker 1>thank goodness, how many people would have died had Iran

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<v Speaker 1>got a nuclear weapon. We can only imagine the horror

0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:31.880
<v Speaker 1>and the terror that awaited us. Donald Trump has consistently,

0:56:32.640 --> 0:56:35.640
<v Speaker 1>for decades, long before he was in politics, said what

0:56:35.840 --> 0:56:38.240
<v Speaker 1>many of us knew and believed to be the case.

0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Iran must never ever be allowed to have nuclear weapons.

0:56:42.719 --> 0:56:45.960
<v Speaker 1>We had all that nonsense for eight years of the

0:56:46.000 --> 0:56:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Barack Obama regime pussy footing around with the Iranians shipping

0:56:50.800 --> 0:56:54.120
<v Speaker 1>palettes of gold bullion and gold bars, saying, Oh, you

0:56:54.160 --> 0:56:56.920
<v Speaker 1>can have your nuclear weapons, but just not now. Push

0:56:56.920 --> 0:56:59.560
<v Speaker 1>it a bit further down the track. Trump said no.

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Trump has defied the Iranian regime. He's defied all the naysayers.

0:57:04.960 --> 0:57:09.520
<v Speaker 1>He's defied the left, Penny Wong, Anthony ALBANIZI, no, you

0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:13.000
<v Speaker 1>don't de escalate. We don't need your little, little, nice,

0:57:13.040 --> 0:57:18.080
<v Speaker 1>little lefty slogans. What we need is decisive Western power

0:57:18.280 --> 0:57:20.640
<v Speaker 1>to say no to an evil and put an end

0:57:20.720 --> 0:57:23.280
<v Speaker 1>to a Donald Trump is saying now that the three

0:57:23.560 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 1>if you just tuned in the three nuclear bases of Fordo,

0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Natanzan Isfahan, the Americans have struck successfully, and he's saying

0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:36.760
<v Speaker 1>this is obviously the first step towards peace. Now, Rita,

0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:41.440
<v Speaker 1>we were just talking about your family, your childhood in Iran. Rita,

0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I believe you will return to Iran and see Iran

0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:48.720
<v Speaker 1>with your family as it was when you left. I

0:57:48.720 --> 0:57:51.600
<v Speaker 1>hope that is the outcome of what we learned this morning.

0:57:51.880 --> 0:57:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump has dropped three bombs on the Iranian nuclear

0:57:57.720 --> 0:57:58.440
<v Speaker 1>power plants.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when Pennywong to about de escalations, she's talking about

0:58:03.320 --> 0:58:07.360
<v Speaker 2>the continuation of the rain of the mad mullers of

0:58:07.400 --> 0:58:10.640
<v Speaker 2>the Islamist regime in Iran. That's what de escalation means.

0:58:10.680 --> 0:58:13.600
<v Speaker 2>It means they continue in power and you stop bombing

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:17.080
<v Speaker 2>them and stop trying to have regime change. I got

0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:21.600
<v Speaker 2>to say I did not think in my lifetime, and

0:58:21.880 --> 0:58:25.160
<v Speaker 2>let's not jump the gun here, because the regime could

0:58:25.200 --> 0:58:27.400
<v Speaker 2>survive this. We don't know exactly. I mean, it's literally

0:58:27.440 --> 0:58:31.080
<v Speaker 2>happened in the last few minutes. So but if there

0:58:31.160 --> 0:58:33.960
<v Speaker 2>is regime change, it's something I didn't think would happen

0:58:33.960 --> 0:58:36.080
<v Speaker 2>in my lifetime that I would be able to ever

0:58:36.120 --> 0:58:40.240
<v Speaker 2>go back to Iran, because certainly I haven't been there

0:58:40.320 --> 0:58:45.560
<v Speaker 2>since I fled with my family. It would be madness

0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:47.240
<v Speaker 2>for me to go back. I'd be locked up and

0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:51.880
<v Speaker 2>executed in record time. But if there is regime change,

0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:55.480
<v Speaker 2>obviously that would be something that could happen. So I

0:58:55.640 --> 0:58:58.320
<v Speaker 2>genuinely did not think that was a posibility because I

0:58:58.320 --> 0:58:59.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't think we would have a Donald Trump. I mean,

0:59:00.000 --> 0:59:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump is a generational leader. He's a leader unlike

0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:08.960
<v Speaker 2>any we have seen, certainly in my lifetime. Again, and

0:59:09.320 --> 0:59:12.560
<v Speaker 2>what he has managed to do in a short period

0:59:12.560 --> 0:59:14.680
<v Speaker 2>of time domestically, you look at what he's done with

0:59:14.680 --> 0:59:18.480
<v Speaker 2>that illegal immigration crisis in a matter of weeks, and

0:59:18.520 --> 0:59:21.560
<v Speaker 2>what he's been able to do to the Iranian regime.

0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:27.080
<v Speaker 2>The first term, he demoralized them, he impoverished them, isolated absolutely,

0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:29.160
<v Speaker 2>We're told that was going to start Wars three, it

0:59:29.240 --> 0:59:33.320
<v Speaker 2>did not, and this time around if he is pivotal

0:59:33.960 --> 0:59:38.200
<v Speaker 2>in seeing regime change there astonishing.

0:59:38.000 --> 0:59:40.640
<v Speaker 1>James James, let me just quickly say, we'll do an

0:59:40.720 --> 0:59:44.960
<v Speaker 1>outsider show in Isfahan with Reefer and James and Rowan

0:59:45.200 --> 0:59:47.360
<v Speaker 1>that that's what we're going to do.

0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:49.520
<v Speaker 3>That will be so called to be the best outside

0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:52.560
<v Speaker 3>broadcast ever. But you know, I'm going to talk more

0:59:52.560 --> 0:59:54.720
<v Speaker 3>of this next segment about Penny Wong and all of

0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:57.800
<v Speaker 3>that stuff. But you know, it's such a contrast because

0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:01.920
<v Speaker 3>all through this Albanizy labor government, we have seen Anthony

1:00:01.920 --> 1:00:04.880
<v Speaker 3>Albanisi say, oh, well, you know, we're standing up for

1:00:04.920 --> 1:00:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Australian values, values, values, values, values, values, and what we've

1:00:09.000 --> 1:00:11.200
<v Speaker 3>revealed here today in the last you know, two hours,

1:00:11.200 --> 1:00:13.480
<v Speaker 3>twenty four hours last week or so, has really been

1:00:13.760 --> 1:00:18.000
<v Speaker 3>that Australian values when it comes to foreign policy don't exist.

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<v Speaker 3>They are the values of both sides. Is of their

1:00:20.520 --> 1:00:24.040
<v Speaker 3>the values of saying hey, everybody call me down. That's

1:00:24.080 --> 1:00:26.439
<v Speaker 3>actually not peace making. That's a piece of the dead.

1:00:26.480 --> 1:00:30.200
<v Speaker 3>That is giving peace to dictators and bad guys. And

1:00:30.240 --> 1:00:32.760
<v Speaker 3>this is not about you know, going into stopping around

1:00:32.800 --> 1:00:35.720
<v Speaker 3>the world and overturning every regime we don't like. This

1:00:35.800 --> 1:00:41.320
<v Speaker 3>is about a regime that, Asrita very capably explicated, you know,

1:00:41.520 --> 1:00:44.000
<v Speaker 3>is a terrible regime that have uses its own people

1:00:44.200 --> 1:00:48.360
<v Speaker 3>and that has been responsible ever since those students stormed

1:00:48.360 --> 1:00:50.800
<v Speaker 3>the American embassy in nineteen seventy nine, and many of

1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:55.240
<v Speaker 3>them went on, including Amadinijad, to become leaders of this regime.

1:00:55.720 --> 1:00:59.800
<v Speaker 3>Sponsored terrorism. Hamas has Belah made the Lebanese Civil War

1:01:00.080 --> 1:01:03.040
<v Speaker 3>hard show that it was sponsored assassinations around the world,

1:01:03.080 --> 1:01:06.680
<v Speaker 3>sponsored hijackings around the world, blew up Jewish cultural centers

1:01:06.680 --> 1:01:09.320
<v Speaker 3>around the world, including one in Argentina many years ago

1:01:09.360 --> 1:01:11.520
<v Speaker 3>that killed around two hundred people. I believe, if I'm

1:01:11.520 --> 1:01:15.360
<v Speaker 3>not mistaken, there is so much bad stuff sheeted home

1:01:15.400 --> 1:01:19.440
<v Speaker 3>to this regime. The idea, the idea that this government

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<v Speaker 3>that Penny Wong and anthemy E would say, oh well,

1:01:22.320 --> 1:01:24.680
<v Speaker 3>let's just be peaceful about it, let's just try and

1:01:24.720 --> 1:01:27.200
<v Speaker 3>dial things down so that they can survive and keep

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<v Speaker 3>doing all the awful stuff they're doing. Well, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what's driving that. Is it a sense of weakness

1:01:33.200 --> 1:01:36.600
<v Speaker 3>and a failure to understand Australia's true interests? Is it

1:01:36.760 --> 1:01:39.720
<v Speaker 3>more sinister. Is it a more cinist thing where it

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<v Speaker 3>is trying to filter domestic politics through our foreign policy

1:01:43.720 --> 1:01:47.640
<v Speaker 3>to say, well, you know, maybe our Islama communities here

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<v Speaker 3>might not appreciate our standing up against Iran. Now I

1:01:50.520 --> 1:01:53.600
<v Speaker 3>disagree with that. I disagree with that. I disagree with that,

1:01:53.720 --> 1:01:56.360
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, I agree, but I think that. But it's

1:01:56.400 --> 1:02:00.280
<v Speaker 3>just you've got to wonder what all the possibilities are.

1:02:00.320 --> 1:02:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Just a deeply ideological position that these people have held

1:02:05.600 --> 1:02:07.760
<v Speaker 2>from their days in student politics. I don't think it's

1:02:07.800 --> 1:02:11.520
<v Speaker 2>more complicated than that. I also, I think because of

1:02:11.120 --> 1:02:14.120
<v Speaker 2>the way the media reports on Trump, they also see

1:02:14.120 --> 1:02:18.920
<v Speaker 2>it as being politically useful to take that position. But overwhelmingly,

1:02:18.960 --> 1:02:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a position born out of their ideology.

1:02:23.280 --> 1:02:26.280
<v Speaker 2>This is what they believe. This is why they entered politics.

1:02:26.280 --> 1:02:31.000
<v Speaker 2>They are fundamentally were They're anti western, anti Western. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this guilt about Australia, this black arm band view of

1:02:35.760 --> 1:02:40.120
<v Speaker 2>our country, it extends to Western civilization and that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>where these positions come from. And you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the Australian Labor Party, our current government is

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<v Speaker 2>ruled by their socialist left faction pretty much cleared now

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<v Speaker 2>not we're here.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're not.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we know that Labor is not comfortable with

1:02:54.800 --> 1:02:57.560
<v Speaker 3>the country's Anglo English heritage. We know that they're not

1:02:57.640 --> 1:03:02.000
<v Speaker 3>comfortable with Australia's historic American alliance since World War Two,

1:03:02.400 --> 1:03:04.360
<v Speaker 3>and so you know, they wind up in this sort

1:03:04.400 --> 1:03:08.720
<v Speaker 3>of identity politics world where anybody that's not Western, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they wind up giving a bit of an up to

1:03:10.600 --> 1:03:13.560
<v Speaker 3>because it's always like whoever is supposed sort of anti Western, Well,

1:03:13.560 --> 1:03:14.360
<v Speaker 3>they're on their side.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why it's undergraduate.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why they had to you know, pussy foot around

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<v Speaker 3>Israeli harmas. That's why they've done the same thing here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, hey, bad news, guys. I'm sorry to break it

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<v Speaker 3>to you, but something bad has happened to Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, So if you've just tuned in, I just repeat

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<v Speaker 1>the news is Donald Trump is saying that he has

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<v Speaker 1>dropped three bonds on Iran, on the three nuclear power

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<v Speaker 1>plants of Ford, oh, Ispahan, and Natance. Now, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>what virtually no other commentator does say or believe, or politicians,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly with only a handful of exceptions, believe we are

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<v Speaker 1>now at a pivotal moment in history. And I'm prepared

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<v Speaker 1>to say it out loud. Donald J. Trump is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most extraordinary and crucial political figures of the

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<v Speaker 1>modern era, possibly since the American Civil War. All the

1:04:01.440 --> 1:04:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Trump derangement syndrome crowd and there are so many of them,

1:04:05.920 --> 1:04:10.200
<v Speaker 1>look increasingly ridiculous. It's too soon to crow, as Rita

1:04:10.240 --> 1:04:13.400
<v Speaker 1>is saying, for certain, but it looks increasingly likely that

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<v Speaker 1>we will finally see peace in the Middle East and

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<v Speaker 1>an end to the terrorism stop stoked for five decades

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<v Speaker 1>by the sinister and evil Iranian theocratic regime. We are

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<v Speaker 1>on the threshold of a new Middle East order, dominated

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<v Speaker 1>by an abraham alliance of Israel, Egypt, the Saudis, and

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<v Speaker 1>other peaceful Arabic nations. It will be far from perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, but for the first time in any of

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<v Speaker 1>our lifetimes, there is strong reason to be optimistic about

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<v Speaker 1>the Middle East. And the reason is because of two men,

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<v Speaker 1>both of whom I have admired and proudly stood up

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<v Speaker 1>for for many years in the face of unrelenting smears

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<v Speaker 1>and hatred from the chattering classes and e even from

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<v Speaker 1>the fake conservatives of the West. Those two men are,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, Donald J. Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu. I've had

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<v Speaker 1>the privilege of meeting and talking to Benjamin Netanyahu, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've had the privilege of being one of Donald Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>very first and certainly his most consistent Australian media supporter

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<v Speaker 1>since twenty fifteen, even before he was a candidate for

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<v Speaker 1>the White House. All those idiots who have been repeatedly

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<v Speaker 1>telling you that Trump is an embarrassment of buffoon, a shambles,

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<v Speaker 1>he's incoherent, he's crazy, he's out of control, have only

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed yourselves. I've always said, judge Trump on his results,

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<v Speaker 1>not on how he gets there. The end of the

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<v Speaker 1>Iranian theocratic regime, which is now a potential and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>is now imminent, is as significant as Imperial Japan's surrender,

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<v Speaker 1>and as extraordinary as the fall of the Berlin Wall. Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always maintained, will be remembered in the same league

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<v Speaker 1>as Thatcher and Reagan, and there's every chance he may

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<v Speaker 1>even eclipse both of them. Joining us now is John

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<v Speaker 1>heindereker as he does from the States, John, what an

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<v Speaker 1>afternoon they're in America. Now you're right here at the

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<v Speaker 1>pivotal moments in history. Donald Trump has announced on truth

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<v Speaker 1>Social that the American military might has been used against

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<v Speaker 1>three Iranian nuclear plants, Fordoh, Natans, and Isfan. This suggests,

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<v Speaker 1>but doesn't state, that he used those bunker busting bombs,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly on the case of Fordo, though he has not

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<v Speaker 1>said that, but he has said this is peace through strength.

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<v Speaker 1>John Heinderaker critical moments in American and world history. Your thoughts, well.

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<v Speaker 11>Rower, It sure is breaking news. I learned about it

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<v Speaker 11>watching you here five minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is after this is how it happens. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's great. Let me make a couple of quick points.

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<v Speaker 11>Number one, the American people are behind Donald Trump on

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<v Speaker 11>this issue. You look at the polls, seventy five eighty

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<v Speaker 11>percent of Americans understand the danger from Iran, understand that

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<v Speaker 11>Iran must not obtain nuclear weapons. And we already have

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<v Speaker 11>seen majority support for American military action in Iran, even

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<v Speaker 11>when it wasn't at that time seriously on the table.

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<v Speaker 4>And Trump's megabase is.

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<v Speaker 11>Even more concerned about Iran, even more supportive of these

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<v Speaker 11>actions than the American public generally. And what that means

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<v Speaker 11>is that Donald Trump is playing a very very strong

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<v Speaker 11>hand in terms of domestic support. Now, James said something

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<v Speaker 11>that I want to pick up on, and that is that,

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<v Speaker 11>as far as America is concerned, the Mulas have had

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<v Speaker 11>this coming for a very long time. They have never

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<v Speaker 11>really paid a price for their horrible nineteen seventy nine

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<v Speaker 11>attack on the American embassy in Tehran. They held more

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<v Speaker 11>than one hundred Americans hostage for over a year. That

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<v Speaker 11>was a terrible, terrible crisis. And after that they contributed

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<v Speaker 11>to killing many American servicemen in Iraq.

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<v Speaker 4>And we have owed.

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<v Speaker 11>These mullas, you know, for a long time, and I'm

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<v Speaker 11>glad to see that Donald Trump is finally repaying that debt.

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<v Speaker 11>And I think the real question now is are we

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<v Speaker 11>going to see regime change, because that is what we need.

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<v Speaker 11>We cannot slightly hear, stay in place. We cannot allow

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<v Speaker 11>them to get back to work reconstituting Hamas and Hezbola

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<v Speaker 11>and wait five years and then get back to work

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<v Speaker 11>on the nuclear weaponry.

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<v Speaker 4>These Mullas have got to go.

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<v Speaker 1>James.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, just for some more breaking news here, the President

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<v Speaker 3>has retweeted on his true social site, an open source

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<v Speaker 3>intelligence site that says the three words FODOH is gone.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's what the White House is announcing there and

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently the President is going to be announced making a

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<v Speaker 3>speech and addressed to the nation a little bit later on.

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<v Speaker 1>So if that happens during this program, we'll look at it.

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<v Speaker 3>But suddenly, but John, I want to talk about this

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<v Speaker 3>here because you know, this is you were saying before

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<v Speaker 3>in the polls that we were seeing people were supportive

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<v Speaker 3>of this, and people saw this as you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>good use of American force. What does this do now

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<v Speaker 3>to that wing of the Republican Party or the MAGA movement,

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<v Speaker 3>And that's not the entire Magna movement, that part of

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<v Speaker 3>the Maga movement that has been entirely implacably opposed to

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<v Speaker 3>using American force anywhere, you know, not just in the

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<v Speaker 3>boots on the ground sense, but also just in terms of,

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<v Speaker 3>as you suggested here, settling this very great score that

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<v Speaker 3>America has with this tyrannical regime which I think has

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<v Speaker 3>been at war frankly essentially with the USNS nineteen seventy nine,

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<v Speaker 3>and which was not properly dealt with in nineteen seventy nine,

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<v Speaker 3>when the effeckless and incompetent Jimmy Carter allowed everything that

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<v Speaker 3>happened to happen with the Embassy and with the Shaw

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<v Speaker 3>and with the Revolution.

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<v Speaker 4>James.

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<v Speaker 11>What I would say there is that there are a

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<v Speaker 11>full of high profile commentators on the right who are

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<v Speaker 11>I don't know if they're isolationist or anti Israel. I'm

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<v Speaker 11>not sure exactly what's going on, but who don't want

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<v Speaker 11>America to really do anything in foreign policy.

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<v Speaker 4>They are a tiny, tiny minority.

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<v Speaker 11>They don't speak for any significant percentage of the Mega movement,

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<v Speaker 11>and they don't speak for any significant percentage of the

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<v Speaker 11>American public. The American people are going to be behind

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<v Speaker 11>this effort, and certainly Trump's base overwhelmingly is going to

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<v Speaker 11>be behind this effort return.

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<v Speaker 2>This is astonishing period we're in. And it comes as

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump is nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. Pataks

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<v Speaker 2>Dan has nominated him for brokering a peace steel between

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<v Speaker 2>Pakistan and India. He's also just recently signed a treaty

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<v Speaker 2>between helped mediate a treaty between Rwanda and the Congo.

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<v Speaker 2>So tell me about his chances of winning a Nobel

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<v Speaker 2>Peace Prize in twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, he deserved the Nobel Peace Prize for the Abraham

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<v Speaker 11>Accords in his first term, but that's not what the

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<v Speaker 11>Nobel Committee is interested in from America. To win these

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<v Speaker 11>Nobel prizes, you have to be anti America.

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<v Speaker 4>That's basically.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm looking for it. I don't think Trump stands a

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<v Speaker 11>big chance. But ironically, Rita, you want to talk about peace.

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<v Speaker 11>I think what we're seeing tonight, this is what brings

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<v Speaker 11>about peace. You don't bring about peace by endless negotiations,

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<v Speaker 11>pallets of money to bribe your bitter enemies. You bring

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<v Speaker 11>about peace through strength. And Ronald Reagan knew that. Donald

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<v Speaker 11>Trump knows that, and that's what we're seeing today.

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<v Speaker 2>He seems to understand the mindset of these regimes, whether

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<v Speaker 2>he's talking to North Korea, whether he's talking to the

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<v Speaker 2>Iranian regime, even negotiating with the Chinese, Whilst many in

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<v Speaker 2>the West of god a fairly naive idea, particularly when

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<v Speaker 2>dealing in the Middle East with I think that can

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<v Speaker 2>sort of hug these is mystications into behaving better when

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump understands you get peace through strength.

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<v Speaker 11>Reader, I don't know why that is so hard for

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<v Speaker 11>so many people to figure out.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly.

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<v Speaker 11>Honestly, you look at world history and you see it

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<v Speaker 11>over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 4>Weakness invites aggression. It is strength ters aggression. It is strength.

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<v Speaker 11>It really can bring about peace, and we've seen it

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<v Speaker 11>over and over. We certainly didn't see it during the

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<v Speaker 11>Joe Biden administration. We didn't see it under Barack Obama.

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<v Speaker 11>But we're seeing it now in the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think John on that I just make the

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<v Speaker 1>point of people have just tuned in. This is an

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely historic moment. Outsiders was live on the morning that

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump was assassinated an attempted assassination, when the bullet

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<v Speaker 1>flicked his ear, attempted assassination, and we were live that morning.

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<v Speaker 1>We said then and Spectator Australia ran a cover showing

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<v Speaker 1>that it seemed felt like the hand of God and

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<v Speaker 1>flicked that bullet out of his way. Well, this morning

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<v Speaker 1>we're live and the result of that, the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump survived that assassination attempt now means that people

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<v Speaker 1>like Rita Panahi's family can now look forward to in

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<v Speaker 1>Iran free of the evil theocratic regime of the Iatolas.

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<v Speaker 1>That is what we're looking at. That is how big

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<v Speaker 1>and important this morning is. This is huge, huge news

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<v Speaker 1>around the world. John. I want to also ask you

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<v Speaker 1>about the ramifications of this because you mentioned peace through strength. Had,

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<v Speaker 1>as I think James said earlier, had Donald Trump failed

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<v Speaker 1>to live up to this, you'd have had China in

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<v Speaker 1>bolden Russia more embolden. But suddenly America is now the

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<v Speaker 1>dominant force on the planet, prepared to use its military

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<v Speaker 1>superiority to fight evil. What other ramifications do you think

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<v Speaker 1>China and Russia will be sitting there now a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more nervous than they were half an hour ago. Heinerrega, Yeah, Ron.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a great point.

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<v Speaker 11>Keep in mind that iron is supposedly this great ally

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<v Speaker 11>of both both Russia and China. So an interesting question

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<v Speaker 11>is going to be, well, Russia or China do anything

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<v Speaker 11>about this?

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<v Speaker 4>And I think the answer is no. I think that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I.

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<v Speaker 11>Think one thing that the nations of the world are

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<v Speaker 11>going to learn as that being the ally of Russia

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<v Speaker 11>or the ally of China doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually pay off that well. After all, we'll see, but

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<v Speaker 4>at least that's my prediction, James.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's really ironic to be John here that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the Left, which spent so long saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump's a puppet of Russia, is puffett putin You

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<v Speaker 3>know that they aren't out there cheering in the streets

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<v Speaker 3>right now, because of course, you know, it feels to

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<v Speaker 3>me like the left here, I suspect is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be all rather sort of well, they have a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a case of the sands.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did he go and do this?

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<v Speaker 3>Iran was being attacked by plucking little Israel and all

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<v Speaker 3>this sort of thing. Where does this leave the left

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<v Speaker 3>here in America? Because you know, again, this may be

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<v Speaker 3>one of these sort of eighty twenty issues we talk

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<v Speaker 3>about instead, but instead of being like you know, boys

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<v Speaker 3>and girls locker rooms, it's huge global geopolitics. Does the

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<v Speaker 3>left decide that it is going to say this was

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<v Speaker 3>a terrible thing that Donald Trump did taking nuclear weapons

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<v Speaker 3>out of the hands of a bunch of theocrats, or

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<v Speaker 3>do they say, you know, we're actually gonna have to

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<v Speaker 3>say this was a good thing in the world is

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<v Speaker 3>a better place, and good on Donald Trump for standing

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<v Speaker 3>up to the authoritarian ring reamsimes that he is supposedly

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<v Speaker 3>so close.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll find a way to process. John Hinder, Right, James.

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<v Speaker 4>Gas, You're you're kidding, of course.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean what the Democrats I'm going to do is

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<v Speaker 11>is sit back and hope for failure. They're going to

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<v Speaker 11>hope that this somehow it turns out badly, and if

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<v Speaker 11>it does, they'll pounce on Trump and they'll try to

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<v Speaker 11>take political advantage. The thing you always have to keep

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<v Speaker 11>in mind when you talk about military action is that

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<v Speaker 11>the ultimate political ramifications depend on and how it turns out.

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<v Speaker 11>And so if we have a happy outcome here, if

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<v Speaker 11>the will has flee and the Iranian people rise up,

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<v Speaker 11>and maybe the Shah comes back, who knows, but we

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<v Speaker 11>have a new and certainly better regime in Iran and

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<v Speaker 11>we don't have a wider war. Some people talk about

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<v Speaker 11>World War three. I think that's kind of ridiculous. But

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<v Speaker 11>if it turns out well that, I think the Democrats

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<v Speaker 11>are just left with nothing to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, Jean Henderregert always great to chat to you, But

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<v Speaker 1>what an extraordinary morning for us to be talking to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Unbelievable moment in world history. Payload of bombs were dropped

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<v Speaker 1>on three of Iran's nuclear sites. Photo The main one

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<v Speaker 1>is now gone. Now, spare a thought, I just say

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<v Speaker 1>to everyone watching, spare a thought for Israel, For the

1:16:48.760 --> 1:16:54.000
<v Speaker 1>people of Israel who for five decades have seen one

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<v Speaker 1>of their neighbors, close neighbors, the evil regime in Iran

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<v Speaker 1>on the short distance away threat to destroy Israel, death

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<v Speaker 1>to Israel, death to America, on every bomb, the rantings

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<v Speaker 1>and ravings of the Iya, tollers of the Mullas against

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<v Speaker 1>the Israel entity, the Little Satan and the Great Satan.

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<v Speaker 1>Think of the fear and the horror and the terror

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<v Speaker 1>that the people of Israel have had to sit through

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<v Speaker 1>for these past five decades. Finally, Donald Trump and Benjaminettaya,

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<v Speaker 1>who have delivered, in my opinion, freedom from the evil

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<v Speaker 1>of the Iranian regime for the people of Israel. Crack

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<v Speaker 1>open the bubbly this morning if you haven't already, because

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<v Speaker 1>the people of Israel, the people of America, the people

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<v Speaker 1>of the world should be cheering the actions of Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and Benjaminettania Netanyahu. We'll take a short break back

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<v Speaker 1>in a tick with lots more here on Outsiders.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, you're watching Outsiders on a very historic morning with

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<v Speaker 3>your hosts Rita, mostly peaceful Panahee and Rowan. Don't deport me, Dean,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm James Morrow here with a brand spanking new

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<v Speaker 3>truth bomb, fresh off the assembly line, just moments after

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<v Speaker 3>we've heard the news that Donald Trump has bombed three

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<v Speaker 3>sites and I ran nuclear sites that Florida, Esfahan and

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere else too which I can't realer the name right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But we are here.

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<v Speaker 3>Natas, so here we are ready to take on the

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<v Speaker 3>sad and deluded people in America, across Australia and right

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<v Speaker 3>around the world who just don't get it and don't

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<v Speaker 3>get the importance of this moment. This would include, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>the sad and deluded folks who don't seem to get

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<v Speaker 3>the difference between let's say, democracies and dictatorships. Folks like well,

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<v Speaker 3>this former Obama official who showed up on CNN this

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<v Speaker 3>week and attempted to define tell us the true meaning

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<v Speaker 3>of what authoritarianism really is.

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<v Speaker 5>And also this is not the first place authoritarian regimes

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<v Speaker 5>have taken over. And when you look at what has

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<v Speaker 5>happened in other countries where.

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<v Speaker 1>That has happened, they.

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<v Speaker 5>Use certain issues to actually try immigration as one, trans

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<v Speaker 5>issues is another one. And what has this administration really

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<v Speaker 5>focused on immigration?

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<v Speaker 1>Trans issues?

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<v Speaker 5>And they use it because they think it's an issue

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<v Speaker 5>that they can get public opinion on them. But the way,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's backfiring right now, I would say on this administration.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, authoritarian regimes around the world since the start of

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<v Speaker 3>history have used trans.

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<v Speaker 1>Issues as the way that they hold power. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think though, that she might have it all wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>because all the authoritarian states that I grew up with,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Cuba, North Korea, East Germany, their immigration issue

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<v Speaker 3>was about not letting people leave, not letting too many

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<v Speaker 3>people in. But I digress. There's simply an awful lot

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<v Speaker 3>of confusion going around about this sort of thing these days.

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<v Speaker 3>Picking up on the theme, ABSNBC contributed Rick Stengel, who,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, once upon a time wasn't actually distinguished journalists,

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<v Speaker 3>but now seems to drink the kool aid, seems to

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<v Speaker 3>have it all backwards again. About Iran, which you probably

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<v Speaker 3>thought was a real authoritarian state right now, who wrongo?

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<v Speaker 3>Says our Rick, who says that contrary to what we

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<v Speaker 3>see on TV reading you might disagree with this, Iran

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<v Speaker 3>is actually really European.

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<v Speaker 1>Iran is the most western nation in the whole Middle East.

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<v Speaker 1>We have much more in common with them with a

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<v Speaker 1>than a lot of countries that we do have alliances with.

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<v Speaker 3>Really Okay, well, maybe before the revolution, but maybe these days.

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<v Speaker 1>He meant European.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess in the sense that in Tehran, as in

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<v Speaker 3>many neighborhoods, in certain European capitals, it is safer for

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<v Speaker 3>women to go around wearing a headscarf. Who knows, But

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<v Speaker 3>don't think Australia is immune.

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<v Speaker 1>To this sort of thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>Our own Foreign Minister Penny Wong has succumbed to this

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<v Speaker 3>very same relativism, suggesting that the best result for the

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<v Speaker 3>current Israel Iran war, which has just had a massive development,

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<v Speaker 3>is not for Iran's malas to be defeated, but rather

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<v Speaker 3>for the conflict to be dialed down so the mothers

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<v Speaker 3>get to live another day while continuing to destabilize the

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<v Speaker 3>entire Middle East through their terrorist proxies.

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<v Speaker 12>I emphasized there is an opportunity, given what President Trump

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<v Speaker 12>has said, there's an opportunity over the next two weeks

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<v Speaker 12>for de escalation, dialogue and diplomacy. That is what we

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<v Speaker 12>want to see, and that is what the world wants

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<v Speaker 12>to see. Everyone must come to the table and it

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<v Speaker 12>must stop any nuclear weapons program.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I want everybody to stop and think about what the

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<v Speaker 3>Foreign Minister was just saying there, because in fact, there

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<v Speaker 3>was a little truth bomb buried in here, and that

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<v Speaker 3>is that what Wang was saying. Wong, whom no less

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<v Speaker 3>a figure than Shadow Attorney General Julian Liser has called

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<v Speaker 3>out for her hostility to the West and Western values

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<v Speaker 3>and Israel. Well, what she's really calling for is for

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<v Speaker 3>Iran to be handed a great, big win and a

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<v Speaker 3>propaganda victory, because if the Mullahs are able to survive,

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<v Speaker 3>even after what just happened at four tooh, if they

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<v Speaker 3>are able to survive the current onslaught, they will declare

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<v Speaker 3>this as a win, a win for the Mulas against

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<v Speaker 3>the Little Satan i e. Israel and the Great Satan,

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<v Speaker 3>namely the US of A. Meanwhile, just to go back

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<v Speaker 3>to the US for a moment, let's have a little

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<v Speaker 3>fun if you want to talk about authoritarian as well.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems that there is an authoritarian streak creeping into

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<v Speaker 3>American politics, not from the right as we always hear

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<v Speaker 3>about it, but rather from the left. Here's former President,

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<v Speaker 3>the Old Community New organizer in chief, Barack Obama speaking

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<v Speaker 3>just a couple of days ago about free speech the internet,

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<v Speaker 3>and you guessed it, the need for more government regulation

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that US normal folk only get official

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<v Speaker 3>approved facts.

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<v Speaker 13>Part of what we're going to have to do is

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<v Speaker 13>to start experimenting with new forms of journalism, and how

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<v Speaker 13>do we use social media in ways that reaffirm facts,

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<v Speaker 13>separate facts from opinion. We want diversity of opinion, we

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<v Speaker 13>don't want diversity of fact. By the way, it will

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<v Speaker 13>require some government I believe some government regulatory constraints around

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<v Speaker 13>some of these business models.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, yes, have I heard that before?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, Old Brack is sounding a lot like just

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<v Speaker 3>in ar Dur the COVID year in PM of New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 1>We will continue to be your single source of truth.

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<v Speaker 1>We will provide information frequently.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the left loves the idea of facts being settled

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<v Speaker 3>and not contested, so long as they come from the

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<v Speaker 3>government as the single source of truth. That's never worked

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<v Speaker 3>out badly before, has it? People na Anyway, it's all

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<v Speaker 3>ironic because once upon a time the left used claims

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<v Speaker 3>on free speech as a way to undermine the establishment.

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<v Speaker 3>But now that they are the establishment, well, all bets

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<v Speaker 3>are off. Not to be fair, Barack Obama did go

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<v Speaker 3>on later in the speech to say that this regulation,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever for it took, would have to be consistent with

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<v Speaker 3>the First Amendment. But it seems hard to know where

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<v Speaker 3>to begin unpacking such a claim since America. In America,

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<v Speaker 3>at least, they take a very expansive view of free speech,

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<v Speaker 3>including speech that might hurt your feelings. So I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how that works. But speaking of hurt feelings, and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe this is actually the nub of it, Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 3>actually Barack's wife's Michelle's free speech on the net that

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<v Speaker 3>Barack Obama is really concerned about, given her increasingly frequent

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<v Speaker 3>jibes at her husband, the ex First Lady. Well, not

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<v Speaker 3>X in that sense, at least not yet. Here's Michelle,

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<v Speaker 3>who don't forget, had two daughters with Barack, talking on

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<v Speaker 3>her IMO podcast about whether or not she would have

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<v Speaker 3>liked to have had a son. And I tell you what,

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<v Speaker 3>her husband, Barack might have found this a bit difficult listening.

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<v Speaker 1>You should have threw a boy in the mix. Would

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad I didn't have a boy yet he

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<v Speaker 1>would have been a Barack Obama amazing. No, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have felt for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's what every man wants to hear, that his

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<v Speaker 3>wife would have hated having a son like him. To

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<v Speaker 3>put it in another way, mister president, that's a hell

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<v Speaker 3>of a truth bomb.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic James, And just to reiterate if you've just tuned in,

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump is announced on Truth Social which is now

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<v Speaker 1>crashed by the way, that the media platform is now

1:26:09.920 --> 1:26:12.360
<v Speaker 1>crashed and it'll be back up soon, I'm sure. But

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump has announced that we have completed our very

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<v Speaker 1>successful attack on the three nuclear sites in Iran, including

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<v Speaker 1>four Doh, Natams and Isfahan. All planes are now outside

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<v Speaker 1>of Iranian airspace. A full payload of bombs was dropped

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<v Speaker 1>on the primary site four Doh. All planes are safely

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<v Speaker 1>on their way home. Congratulations to our great American warriors.

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<v Speaker 1>There is not another military, says Donald Trump, in the

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<v Speaker 1>world that could have done this. Now is the time

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<v Speaker 1>for peace. He stresses that in capital letters. Thank you

1:26:49.360 --> 1:26:52.760
<v Speaker 1>for your attention to this matter. So Donald Trump will

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<v Speaker 1>be making announcement twelve pm. Obviously you follow everything that

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<v Speaker 1>is happening right here on Sky News, here on Outsiders,

1:26:59.320 --> 1:27:01.800
<v Speaker 1>and then carry on without with Sky News as you

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<v Speaker 1>will hear more from Donald Trump and what has happened.

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<v Speaker 1>This is monumental, This is huge. This We had all

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<v Speaker 1>the naysays saying, oh Donald Trump with chicken out. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a tacko, he was at Trump always chickens out.

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<v Speaker 1>He gave them two weeks and said that's a maximum.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, I might make up my mind at any moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I will know a second before I make up my

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<v Speaker 1>mind when I'm going to pull the trigger. He's pulled

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<v Speaker 1>the trigger. He's dropped a payload of bonds on three

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear sites. This is unbelievable news for the people of Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>for peace in the Middle East, for the people of America.

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<v Speaker 1>What comes next? We were discussing that with James Marita earlier. James,

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<v Speaker 1>where does this leave Where does this leave the Middle East?

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<v Speaker 1>Where does this leave the world?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's really interesting. I think a flag before

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<v Speaker 3>we were talking about this a bit. They're having a

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<v Speaker 3>big old sook at the ABC. Just look at their website. Here,

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<v Speaker 3>where's one the headlines on the ABC website right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Israel is believed to have nuclear weapons?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it? We're about Iran? No, are you surprised?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you surprised the left? I mean that's just.

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<v Speaker 2>Derangement, yes, yes, But I'm looking at the Sydney Morning

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<v Speaker 2>Herald a lot of Trump derangement there as well. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>the Australian media is in many ways worse than the

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<v Speaker 2>worst of the US media when it comes to any

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<v Speaker 2>reporting on Trump. It is pathetic and it does worry

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<v Speaker 2>me because so many in this country that's all they consume,

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<v Speaker 2>and they really do have sort of a warped idea

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<v Speaker 2>of what's happening here. But where we're seeing history unfold.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get ahead of myself and say

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to be the end of the Iran's

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<v Speaker 2>Islamus regime. It may not. It may hold on. It's

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<v Speaker 2>held on through multiple massive uprisings in the past. It

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<v Speaker 2>always just comes down brutally on any dissent domestically. And

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<v Speaker 2>if there is uprisings, if there are marches, if there's

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<v Speaker 2>opposition parties making moves, that could happen and they could

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<v Speaker 2>hold on to power. But in whatever case, they won't

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<v Speaker 2>have a nuclear capability, which is enormous, so that's a positive.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they're demoralized a little bit more than the regime,

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<v Speaker 2>change is just becoming closer. And you know a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people say, well, the Uranian people have to stand

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<v Speaker 2>up and throw these mullers out. It's not that easy.

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<v Speaker 2>They have tried that over and over again. And the

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<v Speaker 2>penalty if you are caught is death. It is not

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<v Speaker 2>something where you can, like in Australia or the US,

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<v Speaker 2>go and peacefully protest or even violently protest that not

1:29:49.000 --> 1:29:52.200
<v Speaker 2>much happens to you. In Iran, you will be hanging

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<v Speaker 2>from Ukraine in the public square. So things are very different.

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<v Speaker 2>But this will certainly, I think, embolden the Uranian people

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<v Speaker 2>that have lived under this regime for forty six years,

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<v Speaker 2>who saw their country go from being relatively modern and

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<v Speaker 2>secular to being plunged into the Shariah law where you

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<v Speaker 2>can get locked up for showing your hair, where you

1:30:18.040 --> 1:30:21.840
<v Speaker 2>can be imprisoned for homosexuality, where you can be killed

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<v Speaker 2>for blasphemy. So it's yeah, it is a critical juncture

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<v Speaker 2>in history. Donald Trump has had great deal to do

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<v Speaker 2>with it in a positive manner, and yeah, we wait

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<v Speaker 2>and see what happens next.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely well, I'm the optimist. I believe that not only

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<v Speaker 1>the military value, but the symbolic value of destroying those

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<v Speaker 1>three nuclear particularly for Order, which was supposedly impregnable Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know yet if it was which sort of

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<v Speaker 1>bombs were dropped. It was a paler the bombs dropped

1:30:52.720 --> 1:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>on three nuclear sites, including border Sophobia is now gone

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<v Speaker 1>is what we hear from truth Set, and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Can just give a bit of an update on this here.

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<v Speaker 3>They're saying that this happened around two thirty am I

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<v Speaker 3>ran time. That's what Iran Iranian officials are saying anonymously

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<v Speaker 3>to the press. And also it is believed that they

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<v Speaker 3>were B two, a stealth barbers that came and they

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<v Speaker 3>came possibly from Diego Garcia, and that the movement of

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<v Speaker 3>B two's to Guam was part of a distraction and

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<v Speaker 3>a fake.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's interesting as well because Diego Garcia was Britain

1:31:25.160 --> 1:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>recently handed that over the Chagos Islands and part of

1:31:27.920 --> 1:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>the deal with Britain would have to idiotic movement with

1:31:31.160 --> 1:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Britain would have to tick off on it. So that

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<v Speaker 1>would suggest I don't know if this is the case

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<v Speaker 1>or not that there was a tick there. Who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>We shall find out lots more that you will find

1:31:39.880 --> 1:31:42.559
<v Speaker 1>out here on Sky News. Stay tuned. Obviously, we're going

1:31:42.600 --> 1:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>to take a short break and when we're going to

1:31:43.920 --> 1:31:45.639
<v Speaker 1>come back, we're going to lighten things a little bit.

1:31:45.720 --> 1:31:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Great day today, amazing day. We're going to have a

1:31:48.040 --> 1:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>little bit of the wally of the week, just to

1:31:49.800 --> 1:31:56.360
<v Speaker 1>bring this back down again within a tick. Fantastic. Well,

1:31:56.560 --> 1:32:00.519
<v Speaker 1>big news today that we've just learned from true social

1:32:00.600 --> 1:32:03.599
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump three. A payload of bombs has been dropped

1:32:03.600 --> 1:32:06.840
<v Speaker 1>on three Iranian nuclear sites. Who've been discussing what that

1:32:06.920 --> 1:32:10.080
<v Speaker 1>all means. But we're going to take a little break here,

1:32:10.120 --> 1:32:11.720
<v Speaker 1>have a bit of fun now with a segment we

1:32:11.840 --> 1:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>call Where's Wally or Brother of the week. There's our

1:32:19.439 --> 1:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Wholly of the week. Let's go to that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, que why not only Wally of the

1:32:28.080 --> 1:32:30.960
<v Speaker 2>week segment we have? Because I'm not happy with the name.

1:32:30.800 --> 1:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>And I'm well, if it is not heavy, wait.

1:32:35.880 --> 1:32:38.280
<v Speaker 2>Till next week and see what this segment is called.

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<v Speaker 2>It may still be Wall of the week, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to be fighting, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I like the alliteration, particularly when it goes

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<v Speaker 1>to my nomination. Who's Wong Wong for Wally of the week.

1:32:49.240 --> 1:32:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I think we should start a movement Wong for Wally

1:32:51.280 --> 1:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>of the week. James played you the grab earlier, but

1:32:54.280 --> 1:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>I want to play it to you again. This is

1:32:55.800 --> 1:33:00.439
<v Speaker 1>Penny Wong making a fool of herself, playing to trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be trying to be kind of the peacemaker. If

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<v Speaker 1>you like between Iran and Israel earlier in the week,

1:33:07.880 --> 1:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>and she was saying, oh, let's deescalate. You know, when

1:33:10.760 --> 1:33:13.479
<v Speaker 1>she gets an anxious, anxious look on her face. Here

1:33:13.560 --> 1:33:18.520
<v Speaker 1>we go Strop and Pennywong. That was the financial Pennywong

1:33:18.880 --> 1:33:24.120
<v Speaker 1>urges israel counterpart to return to diplomacy, that sort of

1:33:24.120 --> 1:33:26.800
<v Speaker 1>thing we saw it earlier. But basically she's calling for

1:33:26.880 --> 1:33:30.599
<v Speaker 1>de escalation. So in the light of she's through strength,

1:33:31.080 --> 1:33:31.720
<v Speaker 1>she's my way.

1:33:31.720 --> 1:33:36.040
<v Speaker 2>The other week, President Donald Trump, leader of the free world, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>No time to them, did not take her concerns on board.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine? I mean, even the Iranian regime would

1:33:43.040 --> 1:33:46.759
<v Speaker 2>have little time for pennies musings on anything. So why

1:33:46.840 --> 1:33:51.920
<v Speaker 2>she even would antagonize our allies in America and Israel

1:33:52.120 --> 1:33:56.599
<v Speaker 2>by mouthing off about this, You're achieving nothing other than

1:33:56.800 --> 1:34:01.640
<v Speaker 2>weakening Australia's position with our biggest So if you have

1:34:01.760 --> 1:34:03.720
<v Speaker 2>to talk about it in the party room, you.

1:34:03.680 --> 1:34:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Know what, I guarantee she's after that plush you and

1:34:07.479 --> 1:34:11.880
<v Speaker 1>job next time Chris bow and I'll be doing his

1:34:11.960 --> 1:34:14.080
<v Speaker 1>cop twenty six or what. But anyway, who else has

1:34:14.080 --> 1:34:15.400
<v Speaker 1>got a Walley of the Week. There must be other

1:34:15.439 --> 1:34:16.320
<v Speaker 1>it's not just any wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, here's a Tony, but that makes Tony Burke the

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<v Speaker 3>Burke of the week because or the Wally of the

1:34:22.400 --> 1:34:25.639
<v Speaker 3>week now growing up the name who knows? Because here

1:34:25.680 --> 1:34:28.080
<v Speaker 3>we are the situation where well, hi, they're trying to

1:34:28.160 --> 1:34:31.559
<v Speaker 3>stop free speech and people from speaking to Australians and

1:34:31.600 --> 1:34:33.360
<v Speaker 3>they don't understand how free speech work.

1:34:33.439 --> 1:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, let me just just to rub it in for

1:34:35.240 --> 1:34:38.479
<v Speaker 1>Tony butk So, Tony Burke wanted to stop you hearing

1:34:38.520 --> 1:34:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Hillel Fold speak here in Australia. So I'm going to

1:34:41.280 --> 1:34:43.080
<v Speaker 1>read a little bit, just a tiny bit of what

1:34:43.160 --> 1:34:45.960
<v Speaker 1>he had to say. Ooh, so inflammatory have a listen.

1:34:46.000 --> 1:34:49.040
<v Speaker 1>This is Hillel Fold speaking this week. The Jewish people,

1:34:49.080 --> 1:34:51.719
<v Speaker 1>he said, have been nothing but a source of light

1:34:52.240 --> 1:34:55.320
<v Speaker 1>in this world, and it's time we own that light.

1:34:55.400 --> 1:34:58.840
<v Speaker 1>He said. It's time we stopped apologizing and that should

1:34:58.880 --> 1:35:02.479
<v Speaker 1>be our narrative or our light. Too many people, too

1:35:02.520 --> 1:35:06.240
<v Speaker 1>many Jews, are still apologizing. We need to own it

1:35:06.280 --> 1:35:08.320
<v Speaker 1>and that should be our narrative. So that was part

1:35:08.320 --> 1:35:10.640
<v Speaker 1>of what he said. Oh, how dare we hear that?

1:35:12.160 --> 1:35:16.360
<v Speaker 2>I've heard those I've been radicalized. Now I've been radicalized.

1:35:17.240 --> 1:35:18.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how I'm going to be coping with this.

1:35:19.000 --> 1:35:22.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll lead to into some sort of de radicalization program

1:35:22.320 --> 1:35:23.760
<v Speaker 2>exactly to the.

1:35:23.760 --> 1:35:27.679
<v Speaker 3>Australia, because here we are the situation where well hithery're

1:35:27.720 --> 1:35:30.760
<v Speaker 3>trying to stop free speech and people from speaking to

1:35:30.840 --> 1:35:33.519
<v Speaker 3>Australians and they don't understand how free speech worked.

1:35:33.520 --> 1:35:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Well, let me just just to rub it in for

1:35:35.320 --> 1:35:38.519
<v Speaker 1>Tony Bok. So, Tony Burk wanted to stop you hearing

1:35:38.640 --> 1:35:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Hillel Fold speak here in Australia. So I'm going to

1:35:41.360 --> 1:35:43.160
<v Speaker 1>read a little bit, just a tiny bit of what

1:35:43.240 --> 1:35:46.040
<v Speaker 1>he had to say. Oh, so inflammatory, have a listen.

1:35:46.120 --> 1:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>This is Hillel Fold speaking this week. The Jewish people,

1:35:49.160 --> 1:35:51.840
<v Speaker 1>he said, have been nothing but a source of light

1:35:52.320 --> 1:35:55.400
<v Speaker 1>in this world, and it's time we own that light.

1:35:55.479 --> 1:35:58.920
<v Speaker 1>He said. It's time we stopped apologizing and that should

1:35:58.960 --> 1:36:02.519
<v Speaker 1>be our narrative or our lights. Too many people, too

1:36:02.600 --> 1:36:06.320
<v Speaker 1>many Jews, are still apologizing. We need to own it

1:36:06.400 --> 1:36:08.400
<v Speaker 1>and that should be our narrative. So that was part

1:36:08.400 --> 1:36:10.840
<v Speaker 1>of what you said. Oh how dare we hear that?

1:36:12.240 --> 1:36:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I've heard those I've been radicalized. Now I've been radicalized.

1:36:17.320 --> 1:36:18.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how I'm going to be coping with this,

1:36:19.080 --> 1:36:22.120
<v Speaker 2>I'll lead to into some sort of de radicalization program

1:36:22.439 --> 1:36:25.920
<v Speaker 2>exactly now to the Australian public. Now that's that's been

1:36:25.920 --> 1:36:26.479
<v Speaker 2>the assessment.

1:36:27.040 --> 1:36:29.120
<v Speaker 1>It's a good contender there, but read to no doubt

1:36:29.160 --> 1:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>has a contender for whatever of the week theme you've started.

1:36:32.040 --> 1:36:34.160
<v Speaker 2>The theme we've got. You know, this is a Federal

1:36:34.240 --> 1:36:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Labor Party sort of nomination week. So I've got to

1:36:37.400 --> 1:36:39.600
<v Speaker 2>go straight to the top and let's hear from the

1:36:39.640 --> 1:36:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Prime minister.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh goody, No, I'm a labor prime Minister and I

1:36:46.280 --> 1:36:49.920
<v Speaker 8>support penalty rights. I'm a labor prime Minister and I

1:36:49.960 --> 1:36:53.640
<v Speaker 8>support real wages increasing. I'm a labor prime Minister, and

1:36:53.680 --> 1:36:56.479
<v Speaker 8>I support an economy that works for people, not people

1:36:56.520 --> 1:36:59.120
<v Speaker 8>working for an economy we support work is getting a

1:36:59.120 --> 1:37:00.840
<v Speaker 8>fair crack for the contribution.

1:37:02.040 --> 1:37:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm a labor prime Minister and I get snubbed by

1:37:05.000 --> 1:37:07.519
<v Speaker 2>the Leader of the free world because I'm a clown

1:37:08.040 --> 1:37:10.640
<v Speaker 2>and I'm a labor prime minister who told Australians We're

1:37:10.640 --> 1:37:13.880
<v Speaker 2>going to see our energy prices drop whilst they're skyrocketing.

1:37:13.920 --> 1:37:19.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I could go on the show's only so long, really,

1:37:19.840 --> 1:37:21.840
<v Speaker 2>and when I watch that and I see the fact

1:37:21.840 --> 1:37:24.000
<v Speaker 2>that he won in a landslide, and it's not surprising

1:37:24.040 --> 1:37:26.640
<v Speaker 2>you want in a landslide when you have absolutely no opposition.

1:37:28.000 --> 1:37:29.799
<v Speaker 2>It's an indictment on the Liberal Party.

1:37:30.080 --> 1:37:30.639
<v Speaker 1>They had so.

1:37:30.680 --> 1:37:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Much material to work with at that last election, and

1:37:33.800 --> 1:37:37.240
<v Speaker 2>they declined at all because they didn't want to get

1:37:37.280 --> 1:37:39.840
<v Speaker 2>the backlash. They declined to walk away from that zero.

1:37:40.000 --> 1:37:43.639
<v Speaker 2>They declined to pick a fight on important issues of values.

1:37:43.640 --> 1:37:46.439
<v Speaker 2>That decline to pick a fight even really on sound

1:37:46.560 --> 1:37:50.479
<v Speaker 2>economic policy. Their spending promises were crazy. So when you

1:37:50.560 --> 1:37:53.640
<v Speaker 2>see that, look at the Liberals as well. Don't just

1:37:53.680 --> 1:37:56.320
<v Speaker 2>be mad at Labor, I be mad at the opposition

1:37:56.400 --> 1:37:58.120
<v Speaker 2>that isn't really an opposition right now.

1:37:58.200 --> 1:38:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. And that line James out to I don't

1:38:01.400 --> 1:38:03.320
<v Speaker 1>want people to work for the economy. The economy works

1:38:03.320 --> 1:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>for view or whatever it is, whatever nonsense. I mean, seriously,

1:38:06.120 --> 1:38:10.840
<v Speaker 1>that guy put that out. We chose like this is

1:38:10.880 --> 1:38:12.080
<v Speaker 1>important though, it's really important.

1:38:12.080 --> 1:38:13.400
<v Speaker 3>I want to pick up on that there because that

1:38:13.439 --> 1:38:16.160
<v Speaker 3>whole line about you know, the economy works for us,

1:38:16.320 --> 1:38:19.080
<v Speaker 3>we don't work for the economy, well, okay, yeah, sure,

1:38:19.120 --> 1:38:21.720
<v Speaker 3>I think actually everybody would agree with that. I mean,

1:38:21.880 --> 1:38:24.760
<v Speaker 3>but what he is there's another half of that is

1:38:24.760 --> 1:38:27.559
<v Speaker 3>that the government exists for us. We don't work for

1:38:27.640 --> 1:38:31.280
<v Speaker 3>the government. Now, that is the line that the opposition

1:38:31.680 --> 1:38:34.280
<v Speaker 3>should be picking up on, exactly what Prime Minister Robin

1:38:34.320 --> 1:38:37.439
<v Speaker 3>Ezy said there, because this is the philosophical difference, the

1:38:37.479 --> 1:38:41.000
<v Speaker 3>great philosophical difference between Labor and the liberals should be.

1:38:41.040 --> 1:38:42.880
<v Speaker 3>And I know the liberals, you're trying to figure out

1:38:42.880 --> 1:38:43.600
<v Speaker 3>what you stand for.

1:38:44.400 --> 1:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>This is it.

1:38:45.600 --> 1:38:49.000
<v Speaker 3>We don't work for the government. The government works for

1:38:49.080 --> 1:38:52.799
<v Speaker 3>us and Albanisi and Labor's view is entirely the other

1:38:52.960 --> 1:38:56.200
<v Speaker 3>way around, that we work for the government and then

1:38:56.240 --> 1:38:59.280
<v Speaker 3>the government hands us back good ease and bits and

1:38:59.320 --> 1:39:02.439
<v Speaker 3>Bob's if we do what they say how they say.

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<v Speaker 1>It beautifully put, James, beautifully put. And you're right. So,

1:39:05.320 --> 1:39:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but what you're asking, James is that the

1:39:09.200 --> 1:39:12.479
<v Speaker 1>opposition stands in opposition to the government.

1:39:12.560 --> 1:39:20.840
<v Speaker 2>What we have a debate that's devisive, but then might

1:39:20.880 --> 1:39:24.160
<v Speaker 2>not like opposing views, might not like us, and the

1:39:24.280 --> 1:39:27.640
<v Speaker 2>media who hate us might actually hold us. I mean,

1:39:27.760 --> 1:39:31.599
<v Speaker 2>come on, it is so weak and I can only

1:39:31.680 --> 1:39:36.719
<v Speaker 2>hope I can only hope that having the thumping losses

1:39:36.760 --> 1:39:39.400
<v Speaker 2>they've had since they've embraced it zero for example, that

1:39:39.479 --> 1:39:43.080
<v Speaker 2>they see the light. But I'm not hopeful because they

1:39:43.080 --> 1:39:45.800
<v Speaker 2>seem to be coming up with a conclusion maybe we

1:39:45.840 --> 1:39:48.360
<v Speaker 2>should be even more like labor. Maybe they will get us.

1:39:48.439 --> 1:39:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Look, really, the two power I said this.

1:39:51.240 --> 1:39:54.360
<v Speaker 3>I wrote this on election note as the votes were

1:39:54.360 --> 1:39:56.479
<v Speaker 3>coming in and people have been saying no, no, no,

1:39:56.560 --> 1:39:58.519
<v Speaker 3>this is you know, you're being able dramatic. I said,

1:39:58.520 --> 1:40:01.760
<v Speaker 3>this is an existential crisis for the Liberal Party and

1:40:01.800 --> 1:40:04.639
<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen anything that they have done since the

1:40:04.720 --> 1:40:07.040
<v Speaker 3>election to make me think otherwise.

1:40:07.120 --> 1:40:10.559
<v Speaker 1>Here, yes, we have to choose. We've got to choose

1:40:10.920 --> 1:40:13.120
<v Speaker 1>of the week. Now we're doing for my nomination.

1:40:13.320 --> 1:40:14.759
<v Speaker 2>He is the leader of the country.

1:40:15.120 --> 1:40:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the week by a show of hands, by a

1:40:20.800 --> 1:40:24.000
<v Speaker 1>show of hands. Well done, and it may.

1:40:23.920 --> 1:40:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Be the only winner, because next week it could be

1:40:26.400 --> 1:40:27.439
<v Speaker 2>a different thing.

1:40:27.640 --> 1:40:29.760
<v Speaker 1>You never know. I think it'll be a consistent on

1:40:29.760 --> 1:40:32.280
<v Speaker 1>this particular segment. Before we finish, I just wanted to

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1:40:55.080 --> 1:40:57.760
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1:40:57.800 --> 1:41:00.120
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1:41:00.160 --> 1:41:03.200
<v Speaker 1>watch Outsiders. It happened. Maybe Donald Trump timed it for

1:41:03.360 --> 1:41:05.760
<v Speaker 1>our show. Who knows. We'll see you next week at

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<v Speaker 1>nine am. Have a great week.

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<v Speaker 10>Hi,