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Speaker 1: What a weekend of tennis if you've just tuned in

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Speaker 1: and just woke it up. Rapha and Adhal has just

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Speaker 1: taken out the Australian Open last night in the men's

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Speaker 1: overtaking Novak Djokovic with twenty one Grand Slam titles. But

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Speaker 1: Saturday night was an absolute dozy. Three million Aussies average

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Speaker 1: watched Ash Barty take it out, and we have tracked

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Speaker 1: down her professional mentor and mindset coach, Benny Croig, who.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks, We take the whole country it.

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Speaker 3: It was just so good, it felt great. And Bettie,

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Speaker 3: you know what we were thinking about you, because there

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Speaker 3: was moments when she was five to one down in

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Speaker 3: that second set, there was a moment when you thought,

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Speaker 3: and I'm sure you obviously know more than where we are.

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Speaker 3: I'd love to know where her mind's at right now.

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Speaker 3: Is she digging deep or does she just stick to

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Speaker 3: the plan. What do you know about what she would

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Speaker 3: have been thinking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's pretty good at resulting. No one point is

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Speaker 2: more important than they're all worth. One point, right, so

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Speaker 2: if you just keep chipping away, finding a way, adapting,

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Speaker 2: changing things up and so forth. Obviously, when she was

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Speaker 2: five to down in the second set, she's trying new

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Speaker 2: things and being a bit more aggressive, and they're just

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Speaker 2: looking for an opening and obviously she found it. And

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Speaker 2: I think rappers the same. You just never never ever

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Speaker 2: give up in competition or in life, and I think

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Speaker 2: she kind of proved that on Saturday night as well.

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Speaker 2: It was quite extraordinary the comeback, and she was also

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Speaker 2: accepting goes to third even, but she was never going

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Speaker 2: to sure not keep trying if you like, and obviously

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Speaker 2: it paid off.

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Speaker 1: Benny on what the thing I want to ask about

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Speaker 1: is it's harder for her in Australia for the Australian

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Speaker 1: Open because the crowds behind her. We know how vocal

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Speaker 1: Australian crowds get. It's actually quite you know, with a

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Speaker 1: sue that was going on quite a bit throughout the

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Speaker 1: whole tournament. I mean it was putting off a lot

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Speaker 1: of players. But for Ash the pressure is magnified by

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Speaker 1: a hundred because everyone expects her to win. So were

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Speaker 1: you coaching her through that leading up to the tournament,

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Speaker 1: like when she feels that pressure, because there were moments

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Speaker 1: there where I was looking at her going on, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I feel uncomfortable. Twenty five like watching this,

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Speaker 1: it's just unbelievable. Where does she take herself in that moment?

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Speaker 1: What do you train with her to do in those moments?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's become magnificent of just kind of accepting the

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Speaker 2: things she can't control and focusing back solely on the

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Speaker 2: things she can control. And the best version of her

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Speaker 2: pressure itself as a construct doesn't actually exist unless you're

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Speaker 2: focusing your attention on something you can't control. And the

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Speaker 2: one thing she can't control is the outcome. The expectations

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Speaker 2: of outcome, because no one can control the future, right,

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Speaker 2: but all expectations of others. So they're the country's expectations.

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Speaker 2: And we can be as nervous as hell we're watching

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Speaker 2: from the sideline, But the only expectation Ash has is

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Speaker 2: to focus on the things she can control, and if

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Speaker 2: he can separate goals from expectations. And in terms of

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Speaker 2: the crowd, as you mentioned, yeah, it was extraordinary loud

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Speaker 2: throughout the whole tournament. There's a lot of distractions with

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Speaker 2: the whole thou thing, but Ash can all so turn

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Speaker 2: that into an energy source as well. And she said

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Speaker 2: the whole of last year she was putting these goals

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Speaker 2: and dreams out and she kind of celebrates the journey,

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Speaker 2: and when you git that sense of appreciation, that can

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Speaker 2: often be the antidote to expectations. So you can galvanize

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Speaker 2: that energy from the crowd and not use it as

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Speaker 2: a while it can be really loud, she's really calm

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Speaker 2: and clear and folkused on what she needs to do,

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Speaker 2: what she wants to do, and therefore they're the only

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Speaker 2: thing she can control.

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Speaker 1: Actually, Benny, while we've got you, we've been talking about

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Speaker 1: this the last two weeks that we've been on air,

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Speaker 1: and you are a mentor and a mindset coach mate.

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Speaker 1: Just this year it's been really hard and I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you've been getting this question quite a bit

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Speaker 1: just to get back into work. The word that we've

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Speaker 1: been using is languishing, and people have this brain fog

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Speaker 1: and they don't know, you know, the most simple task

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Speaker 1: that we have in life. It feels like it's taking

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Speaker 1: us so much longer to get there, Benny. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know you would work with sports people doing this

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Speaker 1: as well. But how do we get out of this rut?

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Speaker 2: It's not such a simple question, But I guess the

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Speaker 2: principles that ass uses and that I guess a lot

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Speaker 2: of us can use as well. Is the first and foremost.

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Speaker 2: She really focuses on acceptance, you know, accepting herself and

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Speaker 2: accepting the things you can't control. She always has an

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Speaker 2: incredible depth of appreciation for what she's got rather than

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Speaker 2: bitching a moaning for what we don't have. And the

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Speaker 2: other one is self compassion, just cutting herself from slack. Right,

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Speaker 2: she didn't create the pandemic. It's not our fault. And

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Speaker 2: with that self compassion, you can kind of turn adversity

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Speaker 2: in the possibility and reduce these expectations that we often

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Speaker 2: put on ourselves that my life should be different or

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Speaker 2: I should be different. Life does suck at times, but

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Speaker 2: if you can accept that and overcome that and really

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Speaker 2: focus on the things you can control and the goals

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Speaker 2: and dreams that you want to focus on every now

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Speaker 2: and then you can turn adversity into possibility. And once

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Speaker 2: we realize we've got control over that narrative in terms

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Speaker 2: of the stories we tell ourselves, we've got a bit

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Speaker 2: more control. But when we feel like we have things

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Speaker 2: out of our control, or we struggle with uncertainty and

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Speaker 2: vulnerability and these other principles, life becomes a lot.

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Speaker 3: Harder well, Beny on that broader topic. I mean, if

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Speaker 3: you've got people that are nervous about public speaking or confrontation,

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Speaker 3: or maybe they're a nervous flyer, is there a technique

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Speaker 3: that you use or you coach people in before they

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Speaker 3: have these moments so they can control it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, identify a moment or memory of performance where now

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Speaker 2: are absolutely at their best right and it could be anything.

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Speaker 2: And then identify the words that best represent how you

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Speaker 2: felt in that moment. And if you do those two things,

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you'll find a derivative of calm or confident

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Speaker 2: or resident or sharp and you focus deeply on those words, right,

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't guarantee your win, but it does guarantee

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Speaker 2: that you'll bring the best version of you to the

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Speaker 2: dance floor. And that is the only expectations of us

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Speaker 2: as humans. Confidence doesn't come from results because you can't

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Speaker 2: control the outcome of the competitor or pandemics or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Confidence comes from two places only, training, Yes, skiol acquisition

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Speaker 2: and mindset. They're the only two places. So it's either

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Speaker 2: a skill set issue or at the mindset is Bennie,

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Speaker 2: So work on the training that the other core skills

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Speaker 2: of whatever your craft is, and then work on the

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Speaker 2: mindset and the words that best represent you. Ain't kind

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Speaker 2: of just stay in that place and see what happened.

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Speaker 3: Benny, Just quickly back to tennis. Did you focus and

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Speaker 3: commit to having a few drinks with Ash after the wind?

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Speaker 1: Where you do?

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Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 3: Guys caught our poor.

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Speaker 2: It's been a big few days because we had Dylan.

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Speaker 2: Ye're on Thursday night recovered for the final office as

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Speaker 2: Saturday night and I've just got out of bed now,

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Speaker 2: so I'm going to have a padded Old Brocker sandwich

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Speaker 2: for breakfast kick start the day.

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Speaker 3: Did Ash celebrate? Is that issue? That type of girl?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah? Her family all flew down on Saturday from Brisbane.

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Speaker 2: If you were already here, and yeah, I mean she's

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Speaker 2: as as you're here all the time. She's so dedicated

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Speaker 2: to her team and she single handedly built this beautiful

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Speaker 2: repertoire of skills and humans with incredible values. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: she absolutely wanted to celebrate with the team and with

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Speaker 2: her family on Saturday night. She'd be exhausted day She's

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Speaker 2: bring down his boxing day and I'm hoping she just

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Speaker 2: gets home soon and can hang out with her five dogs.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the best. Congratulations you're part of that winners yourself.

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Speaker 3: Mate.

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Speaker 1: I feel like every time we get you on the show,

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Speaker 1: I feel like learn more. You need to send us

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Speaker 1: an invoice or something like that. You thank you for

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Speaker 1: your wisdom, mate, It really does. And I suppose in

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Speaker 1: this time we need as much positivity as we can get, Benny,

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Speaker 1: so we appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's all the best, guys.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Benny.

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Speaker 2: It it fits in and Whipper